Pre-Draft Crumbs
Pryce Drop The Denver Post reports Sunday that the Broncos still hope to find a taker for DE Trevor Pryce. The paper suggested that the Broncos will release him if a partner is not found. Denver is concerned that division rivals San Diego, Oakland and Kansas City will pursue Pryce if he is released. It wants to keep Pryce out of its division. A trade seems unlikely to me, even if the Broncos dropped their trade demands to a low second day pick. Pryce has a cap number of $10 million this year. Any team trading for him would have to take on this huge deal. All interested teams are probably waiting for Pryce to become a free agent, so that they can start negotiations cleanly.
Some posters on this group have wondered if Denver "knows something" about Pryce's condition, since they seem willing to swap him for Ebenezer Ekuban, Courtney Brown and Mike Myers. None of these players have come close to Pryce's career production. Consider the flip side of the deal that brought Ekuban and Myers to Denver; the Broncos sent productive RB Rueben Droughns to the Browns for them. His place in the Denver backfield was filled when the Broncos signed Ron Dayne this week. Now, Broncos officials swear Dayne is there for depth, and will start his Broncos career behind RBs Tatum Bell and Quentin Griffin. Nevertheless, he seems like a downgrade from Droughns, in the same way Ekuban is a downgrade from Pryce.
If Pryce's back injury was terminal, would Denver be trying so hard to keep its three division rivals from getting him? And if the Broncos front office was sane, would it be making deals like this?
Draft hint? Texas LB Derrick Johnson is one of the more intriguing players on the draft board. The top rated LB and the top rated defensive player on some draft service lists, he could go anywhere from Cleveland at pick 3 to New Orleans at pick 16. Charean Williams of the Ft. Worth Star Telegram reports that Johnson has scheduled pre-draft visits with the Texans, Panthers and Chiefs, the teams with the 13th, 14th and 15th picks respectively. Linebacker is a position that tends to fall on draft day. Are these visits a hint of an emerging league consensus on Johnson, that he's a player slotted for the 10-15 range, rather than the 5-10? Or is this simply a case of teams doing their due diligence, in the case they get lucky and have Johnson drop to them?
Perhaps there is a third explanation: is this a sign of three teams all interested in the same guy, which means one or more of them might be interested in trading up to get Johnson?
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Well, Mel Kiper has been saying that Derrick Johnson has a problem shedding blocks and that he’s not projected to go in the top ten. His stock has dropped a bit. I honestly LOVE the guy. He’s a flat out playmaker and probably the best defensive player in this draft. If by some stroke of luck he’s sitting there at #11 Dallas had better scoop him up, that’s all I have to say!!!
Scott
by scott on Apr 3, 2005 2:08 PM CDT reply actions
I have to admit that I think Johnson is more of a finese player. very quick though. Don’t know if he is a Parcells type of player. Besides he won’t be there at 11. Here is two names to think about or look up when deciding who the Cowboys should draft(not first day). Stanly Wilson/6’ runs a 4.36 in the forty. He says he is more of a hitter. The other player is Michael Munoz OT. Both of these guys are ex-player sons. We all know Parcells loves these kind of guys. Any thoughts?
by Boon on Apr 3, 2005 2:27 PM CDT reply actions
Did I mention Wilson is a CB. If you can get him low enough in the draft then a move to FS would be not as tough to swallow.
by Boon on Apr 3, 2005 2:29 PM CDT reply actions
I believe that the Browns draft either Alex Smith or Shawne Merriman. He’s a better fit for their 3-4. The only team I see that would take Johnson before the Cowboys would be the Vikings, but I think because of the pressure to replace Moss at WR, they will take Mike Williams and Johnson will be sitting there at 11. I would like the Cowboys to draft Johnson, Williamson if there at 20, and Justin Tuck in the 2nd round. We will then have more money to persue Ty Law. Even though he is 31 and was injured last year, a year ago this guy was considered arguably the best CB, with only Champ Bailey as a contender. Move him to FS, and we will have a great secondary and alot of young defensive players to mold.
by Lou on Apr 3, 2005 2:54 PM CDT reply actions
Derrick Johnson is the best defensive player in the game, the viking i dont belive will take him think they will be going after a replacment for moss. A team that might take him is the Lions, who are about defense this year in the draft. If Derrick Johnson is there at the 11 pick DALLAS better pick him.
by Matt on Apr 3, 2005 4:04 PM CDT reply actions
I’m still hoping that we trade down one of our firsts for a second this year and a first next year so that we MIGHT be able to trade up for leinhart next year if’n Drew Henson doesn’t seem to be working out.
by Kokopelli on Apr 3, 2005 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
“if” pryce is released, and “if” we can just sign him, and “if” he can pass a through physical. and “if” he will sign a deal that is low enough to be safe for the boys, but that would compensate him with incentives. i would sign him then. that way we could sign either johnson or merriman with the 11th. with the 20th pick; i take either matt jones, or jammal brown. i prefer matt jones. he is going to be something special. can u imagine someone with the size of Gates, and the speed of well, 4.37. that is fast! and the quiteness of say a marvin harrison.. and with the 2nd rounder i would get bullocks.(a FS) or the best OT that is on the board. But what ever bill does. i have faith in BILL!!!
by Darrell on Apr 3, 2005 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
Getting Johnson with 11 will be the best possible pick for us in this draft. We need a linebacker and we desperately need some playmakers on our defense, picking Johnson fills both needs. Plus everyone says that we need three legit starters out of our first 3 picks in this draft so we need to get proven players that are guaranteed to be good, if not great. Shawne Merriman is not exactly a “proven player” and no body even knew about him until around the time of the combine. Some consider him a “workout warrior” and is not a guarantee. Players like Mark Clayton and Derrick Johnson or even David Pollack are as close to guarantees as it gets and would be perfect additions to our team. I also wouldn’t mind drafting Darren Sproles with our 4th round pick because he can spell J. Jones and return kicks for us. He is a spark plug that can be like Brian Westbrook for us. – Kobe
by Kobe on Apr 3, 2005 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
Would love to see the boys finalize a deal for Howard of the Saints. Would give them a potent defensive line!!!!
by lwmatt on Apr 3, 2005 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
rafael,
could you please give me a COMPLETE list of all the people that parcells has ever DRAFTED? my friend says he is bad at drafts and i told him that parcells is great and i wanted to give him a list of all the guys he has drafted to show that parcells is a great DRAFTER. whether they were bad, okay, or great i would love to see a list. THANK YOU
by Ryan on Apr 3, 2005 7:36 PM CDT reply actions
Since the Texans are interested in Johnson and they have the 13th selection in the draft, how about trading our 11 for their 13 and their second round pick. We could still pick up Merriman and have an extra pick in the second round. That is if Johnson is still their at 11.
by Kenny on Apr 3, 2005 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
I’d love to see Dallas pick up Howard for the 2nd round pick this year or next, pick up Jamie Sharper who was dropped by the Texans, and then go hard at the best player in the draft with OT, WR, and FS, being the biggest needs (in that order I think).
Assuming Pryce is cut then go at him and keep that second pick or use him as leverage to drive the price of Howard down (meaning the price paid to the Saints).
by Don S. on Apr 3, 2005 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
Ryan,
83-90 with the Giants
1983
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 10 Terry Kinard S Clemson
2 37 Leonard Marshall DT Louisiana State
3 63 Jamie Williams TE Nebraska
3 70 Karl Nelson T Iowa State
5 124 Malcolm Scott TE Louisiana State
6 151 Darrell Patterson LB Texas Christian
6 153 Kevin Belcher C Texas-El Paso
7 178 Perry Williams CB North Carolina State
8 205 Andy Headen LB Clemson
9 237 Ali Haji-Sheikh K Michigan
11 281 Lee Jenkins DB Tennessee
11 291 Clenzie Pierson DT Rice
12 309 Robbie Jones LB Alabama
12 318 Frank Magwood WR Clemson
12 335 John Tuggle RB California
1984
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 3 Carl Banks OLB Michigan State
1 27 William Roberts G Ohio State
3 59 Jeff Hostetler QB West Virginia
4 87 Conrad Goode T Missouri
4 105 Gary Reasons ILB Northwestern State, La.
5 115 Clint Harris DB East Carolina
6 143 Jim Scott DE Clemson
7 171 Lionel Manuel WR Pacific
10 255 David Jordan T Auburn
10 257 Heyward Golden DB South Carolina State
11 283 Frank Cephous RB UCLA
12 311 Lawrence Green LB Tenn.-Chattanooga
1985
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 19 George Adams RB Kentucky
2 46 Stacy Robinson WR North Dakota State
3 58 Tyrone Davis DB Clemson
3 73 Brian Johnston C North Carolina
4 100 Mark Bavaro TE Notre Dame
5 132 Tracy Henderson WR Iowa State
6 159 Jack Oliver G Memphis
6 165 Mark Pembrook DB Cal State-Fullerton
8 213 Lee Rouson TE Colorado
9 240 Frank Wright NT South Carolina
10 272 Gregg Dubroc LB Louisiana State
11 299 Allen Young DB Virginia Tech
12 326 Herb Welch S UCLA
1986
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 19 Eric Dorsey DE Notre Dame
2 44 Mark Collins CB Cal State-Fullerton
2 46 Erik Howard NT Washington State
2 51 Pepper Johnson MLB Ohio State
2 53 Greg Lasker DB Arkansas
3 73 John Washington DE Oklahoma State
5 130 Vince Warren WR San Diego State
6 139 Ron Brown WR Colorado
6 157 Solomon Miller WR Utah State
7 184 Jon Naekauna RB Boise State
8 214 Steve Cisowski T Santa Clara
9 241 Jim Luebbers DE Iowa State
10 268 Jerry Kimmel LB Syracuse
11 295 Len Lynch G Maryland
1987
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 28 Mark Ingram WR Michigan State
2 55 Adrian White S Florida
3 83 Stephen Baker WR Fresno State
4 112 Odessa Turner WR Northwestern State, La.
5 140 Paul O’Connor G Miami
6 160 Tim Richardson RB Pacific
6 168 Doug Riesenberg T California
8 223 Rod Jones TE Washington
9 225 Stan Parker G Nebraska
9 251 Dana Wright RB Findlay
10 279 Chuck Faucette LB Maryland
11 307 Dave Walter QB Michigan Tech
12 321 Bill Berthusen DT Iowa State
12 329 Chad Stark RB North Dakota State
1988
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 10 Eric Moore G Indiana
2 36 John Elliott T Michigan
3 62 Sheldon White CB Miami, O.
4 92 Ricky Shaw OLB Oklahoma State
5 118 Jon Carter DE Pittsburgh
6 145 David Houle G Michigan State
7 175 Mike Perez QB San Jose State
7 186 Danta Whitaker TE Mississippi Valley
8 202 Sammy Lilly CB Georgia Tech
10 259 Eric Hickerson DB Indiana
10 265 Steve Wilkes TE Appalachian State
11 286 Greg Harris WR Troy State
12 313 David Futrell NT Brigham Young
12 323 Brendan McCormack DT South Carolina
1989
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 18 Brian Williams C Minnesota
3 64 Bob Kratch G Iowa
3 78 Greg Jackson SS Louisiana State
4 93 Lewis Tillman RB Jackson State
4 105 Brad Henke NT Arizona
5 132 David Meggett RB Towson
6 158 Howard Cross TE Alabama
7 175 Dave Popp T Eastern Illinois
8 218 Myron Guyton DB Eastern Kentucky
9 245 A.j. Greene DB Wake Forest
10 272 Rodney Lowe DE Mississippi
11 299 Jerome Rinehart LB Tennessee-Martin
12 326 Eric Smith LB UCLA
1990
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 24 Rodney Hampton RB Georgia
2 51 Mike Fox DE West Virginia
3 79 Greg Mark ILB Miami
4 107 David Whitmore DB Stephen F. Austin
5 135 Craig Kupp QB Pacific Lutheran
7 191 Aaron Emanuel RB Southern California
8 218 Barry Voorhees T Cal State-Northridge
9 246 Clint James DE Louisiana State
10 274 Otis Moore DT Clemson
11 302 Tim Downing DE Washington State
12 329 Matt Stover K Louisiana Tech
93-96 with the Patriots
1993
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 1 Drew Bledsoe QB Washington State
2 31 Chris Slade DE Virginia
2 51 Todd Rucci G Penn State
2 56 Vincent Brisby WR Louisiana-Monroe
4 86 Kevin Johnson NT Texas Southern
4 110 Corwin Brown SS Michigan
5 113 Scott Sisson K Georgia Tech
5 138 Richard Griffith TE Arizona
6 142 Lawrence Hatch DB Florida
8 198 Troy Brown WR Marshall
1994
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 4 Willie McGinest OLB Southern California
2 35 Kevin Lee WR Alabama
3 78 Ervin Collier NT Florida A&M
3 90 Joe Burch C Texas Southern
4 121 John Burke TE Virginia Tech
5 135 Pat O’Neill P Syracuse
6 166 Steve Hawkins WR Western Michigan
6 168 Max Lane T Navy
7 198 Jay Walker QB Howard
7 222 Marty Moore MLB Kentucky
1995
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 23 Ty Law CB Michigan
2 57 Ted Johnson ILB Colorado
3 74 Curtis Martin RB Pittsburgh
3 88 Jimmy Hitchcock CB North Carolina
4 112 Dave Wohlabaugh C Syracuse
6 195 Dino Philyaw RB Oregon
7 234 Carlos Yancy DB Georgia
1996
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 7 Terry Glenn WR Ohio State
2 36 Lawyer Milloy SS Washington
3 86 Tedy Bruschi ILB Arizona
4 101 Heath Irwin G Colorado
4 119 Chris Sullivan DE Boston College
4 124 Kantroy Barber RB West Virginia
5 139 John Elmore G Texas
5 149 Christian Peter DT Nebraska
6 173 Chris Griffin TE New Mexico
6 195 Marrio Grier RB Tenn.-Chattanooga
6 206 Devin Wyman DT Kentucky State
7 216 Lovett Purnell TE West Virginia
7 247 J.R. Conrad G Oklahoma
97-00 with the Jets
1997
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 8 James Farrior ILB Virginia
2 31 Rick Terry DT North Carolina
3 88 Dedric Ward WR Northern Iowa
4 102 Terry Day DE Mississippi State
4 104 Leon Johnson RB North Carolina
5 131 Lamont Burns G East Carolina
5 145 Raymond Austin S Tennessee
6 164 Tim Scharf LB Northwestern
6 191 Chuck Clements QB Houston
7 202 Steve Rosga S Colorado
7 229 Jason Ferguson NT Georgia
1998
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
2 56 Dorian Boose DE Washington State
3 67 Scott Frost FS Nebraska
3 87 Kevin Williams FS Oklahoma State
4 111 Jason Fabini T Cincinnati
5 134 Casey Dailey LB Northwestern
5 141 Doug Karczewski G Virginia
5 146 Blake Spence TE Oregon
5 149 Eric Bateman T Brigham Young
6 163 Eric Ogbogu DE Maryland
6 174 Chris Brazzell WR Angelo State
6 183 Dustin Johnson RB Brigham Young
7 195 Lawrence Hart TE Southern U.
1999
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
2 57 Randy Thomas G Mississippi State
3 90 David Loverne G San Jose State
4 123 Jason Wiltz NT Nebraska
5 162 Jermaine Jones CB Northwestern State, La.
6 183 Marc Megna LB Richmond
6 197 J.P. Machado C Illinois
7 223 Ryan Young T Kansas State
7 235 J.J. Syvrud LB Jamestown
2000
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
1 13 John Abraham DE South Carolina
1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall
1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
3 78 Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
5 143 Windrell Hayes WR Southern California
6 179 Tony Scott CB North Carolina State
7 218 Richard Seals DT Utah
by Eric on Apr 3, 2005 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah whats the deal with J Sharper, he looks like a solid player. He had more tackles last year then coakley or ngyuen. What kinda money do you think he will want. I say pick him up and eithe pryce or howard if possible. Then we can draft the WR, FS, OT that we sorely need.
by Mike on Apr 3, 2005 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
true i posted that a couple days ago and noone replied i would like to see them fill 1-2 more holes via free agency so we can do some stock pilling and and some serious depth and a few starters
by mike on Apr 3, 2005 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
Ryan,
When Parcells was with the Giants, the drafts were run by GM George Young, who was behind many of the great drafts that helped build the Dolphins in the early ‘70s. I don’t know if you can call them his, but I’m sure he learned well. The Patriots drafts were primarily his, though he lost a turf battle with GM Bobby Grier, which is why he left for New York in ’97.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 3, 2005 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
About Sharper, I’m not sold on him, doesn’t sound cheap, and I would be more pleased if by december we have some money still under the cap for emergency signings, you just can’t sign 2 predictable wel paid players when you already have sign 3 others. Sharper didn’t wanted a paycut in Houston, neither Law in NE, what makes you think that those guys would like to play for the Tuna for less, I say sign one, and keep money for the future.
by Chandus on Apr 3, 2005 11:05 PM CDT reply actions
Thats kinda why I was asking how much he would cost, I didn’t know what he was making with the texans.
by Mike on Apr 3, 2005 11:20 PM CDT reply actions
Dallas has enough cap space (I believe) to sign both Sharper and one of the two DE’s being discussed and still enough cap space for the rooks. My fear is, with that many holes, it’s a tough way to go in to the draft. They’ll end up reaching for a player.
I don’t know what you do with emergency cap space in December. Anyone looking to come aboard then will have been sitting out most of the year and any other team could have nabbed them.
by Don S. on Apr 4, 2005 9:13 AM CDT reply actions
Read the article above and I personally don’t think the Broncos front office is sane signing the Browns defensive line and I also think it’s lip service that they don’t want Pryce to be picked up by another team in their division. It’s not that big of a deal if ONE player from one team ends up at a rival team.
I still say if he were that good, the Broncos would find a way to keep him as they obviously still have needs at that position.
by Gene on Apr 4, 2005 9:43 AM CDT reply actions
The Broncos have now signed Ron Dayne also.
They just got the whole front four from the worst Defense in Football, and now they got the Heisman Bust…….Ron Dayne.
If that guy can gain one thousand yards behind the Broncos line…………Shanahan, the Line Coach, and the O Coordinator all deserve Hall of Fame and coach of the year awards.
by Jon on Apr 4, 2005 11:12 AM CDT reply actions
i just pray itll be a good draft, i like the f.a. we picked up wold like to see 1-2 more legit f.a. we have the money use it but use it wisely.
by mike on Apr 4, 2005 11:49 PM CDT reply actions

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