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New Handfuls of Smoke

What can we tell, with the draft now 44 hours away?

Risers These players seem to be rising, based on all the (dis)information being dispensed:

  • Braylon Edwards The Dolphins are trying to spark a bidding war over him and the Vikings and Redskins appear willing to play.

  • Carlos Rogers If the Redskins don't jump up for Edwards, Rogers could be their guy at nine.


  • Sliders? The draft is a zero-sum game; for every player who rises, one must fall. These players seem to be in danger of sliding:
  • Aaron Rogers could be player one or slip out of the top ten.

  • Ronnie Brown could be player two or slide to Houston at thirteen, depending on what mock you read.

  • Cedric Benson will either be a Bear, or slide to the Cardinals or, perhaps the Texans.
  • Head scratchers These guys are all over the mock draft map:

  • Demarcus Ware He could be a Cowboy at pick eleven, or fall to the Packers at 24, depending on your mock.

  • Thomas Davis Most mocks place him at fifteen with K.C., or sixteen with the Saints. One, however, didn't have him in the first round.

  • Mike Williams He could go as high as Tennessee, where he would play for former college OC Norm Chow, or, if you believe Rick Gosselin of the DMN, fall to the Vikings at pick eighteen.
  • Plot points These teams will shape the contour of round one:

  • Tennessee They could start the run on CBs, or take Aaron Rogers if he falls. Or, they could take a WR. Several teams behind them, most notably Minnesota, Arizona and Washington are watching the Titans pick closely.

  • Dallas The run on DE/OLB rushers will likely begin here. Unless there are some unexpected droppers, like a running back or LB Derrick Johnson, the teams from eleven to fifteen, Dallas, San Diego, Houston, Carolina and Kansas City, could all take pass rushers. If the run begins, teams in the 20 to 25 range could get itchy and either move up to get one of the rushers or try to move out of round one because the best options are gone.

  • Cincinnati The Bengals are assumed to take a defensive player at seventeen, but have started to suggest that they might take one of the offensive players who slide past pick fifteen. If they go for a TE or a wide receiver, teams like Dallas and Jacksonville, at picks 20 and 21, would be happy, because more defensive and OT options would remain.

  • St. Louis Everyone is gifting an offensive tackle to the Rams, and they need one. But Mike Martz loves offense and Isaac Bruce is entering his 12th season. If a guy described as a Bruce clone is on the board (Mark Clayton) can the Rams pass him up? Jacksonville and Baltimore, two teams interested in OTs, would be very pleased if the Rams went skill position at 19. The Steelers, who also want a RT, might be inspired to trade up into the 20 to 21 range to get one if St. Louis passes on guys like Jammal Brown and Khalif Barnes.
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    “Victor Rogers If the Redskins donâ€â"¢t jump up for Edwards, Rogers could be their guy at nine.”

    Do you mean Carlos Rogers? If not, who is Victor Rogers?

    And I have the utmost respect for Goose’s mocks/projections, but there’s no way in hell Mike Williams falls to #18, IMHO.

    I know, I know … There are no sure things. BUT there are enough teams that see his true value that if he starts to slip, someone will trade up to grab him. This is not a garantee, JMO.

    Signed,
    -Unapologetic USC homer
    ;)

    by Paul on Apr 21, 2005 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

    1st one on the BLOG today… Wow!!!!!!!!

    I for one can’t wait until saturday. I’m not sure I caould wait another week.
    I think there are going to be three teams trading down into the top five. That is going to be crazy. I saw the poll on the home page,we need to go with a trade, more values on the pick..

    Cowboys ROCK…. LETS GET IN ON 05!! :-)

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

    Hey here is an idea, lets all plan to go to Cali and meet at the BOYS camp for a day. We could make it a yearly richual (spelling:-( )
    It would be cool to meet ya all, and put faces to names. We could meet the great Rafeal….

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

    Paul,

    Thanks. It’s the low time of the afternoon. No caffeine. Victor Rogers is…… well, I
    don’t know who his is.

    by Rafael Vela on Apr 21, 2005 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

    LOL…. :-) Nice

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

    Rafael.. Sorry forspelling your name wrong.. not cool, please forgive this horrible error.

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

    Hey guys what do you think about this. Trade our 11th pick, Pete Hunter and our 4th rounder and we get DE Darren Howard and their 16th pick, then with our 16th pick get either Ware or Spears I would prefer Ware since we would have Howard then trade our 20th pick with the Raiders for their new 26th pick and get their 3rd rounder as well (which is the 5th pick in the 3rd round) and then with our 26th pick get Poole since there are mock drafts saying that the Falcons will take Poole with the 27th pick. Then with the 42 pick we could draft the best available player at the positions of DE/DT/OLB/RB and leave the WR draft for the 3rd round and get Texas A&M WR Terance Murphy. Then come June when all the other cuts start happenning we could go for a RT like Turley from the Rams. Tell me what you guys think. Plus with a draft like this we could be ready to contend with all the big boys.

    by alan on Apr 21, 2005 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

    I was wondering will the cowboys be a REAL super bowl this YEAR!

    by Earl on Apr 21, 2005 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

    Alan

    That sounds like an awesome plan…. You got my stamp of approval.

    Don’t know much about Murphy. I think the Turley deal is a strong possibility, I’m not sure if he will want to much though.

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

    Anyone know who the guys the rach report has listed today? Anyone have a subscription? scout.com has an article today that say’s they have learned the namesof the two targets we will be looking to draft and thet hav a picture of Spears but it doesn’t say who it is unless you have a sub. Anyone know?

    by Walt G. on Apr 21, 2005 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

    This is what I have read about Murphy in alot of different reports like Espn and Fox Sports. Has adequate-to-good size and very good top-end speed. He has fluid hips and is very smooth as a route runner. Shows excellent change of direction skills and lateral movement. He will make plays in the vertical passing game because of his speed and leaping ability. Will make some spectacular catches and has adequate hands. A legitimate threat after the catch. Has very good speed and an explosive second-gear in the open field. Is dangerous after the catch. Will make defenders miss in space and accelerates out of his cuts. Will run away from most defenders in a foot race. Does not get muscled around by cornerbacks in press coverage. Has good quickness and will get off the line of scrimage quickly. Has adequate height, is well built and strong. Works hard as a blocker and has developed good technique. Plays with leverage, gets into position and works to sustain. Is durable and tough. His combine results were as goes: ran the short shuttle in 3.93 seconds, the three-cone drill in 7.08 and the long shuttle in 11.41. He had a 41-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-8 broad jump. I think that sounds pretty good to me.

    by alan on Apr 21, 2005 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

    Where to begin, alan. Too many flaws in your thinking.
    1-No one wants a player coming off a season ending injury like Hunter
    2- If you trade for Howard, then why would you draft another defensive end in Spears.
    3-Be very careful when you talk about a player like Ware who comes from a small school. Too many people get all enamered with the combine workouts, Remember mike mamula??
    4-Raiders want a cornerback, thats why they traded Jolly to the jets. I see them moving up on Saturday. Al Davis is up to something.
    5-Drafting a safety in the first round wont happen, lots of good ones you can pick up in later rounds.keep an eye on brimmer, not getting too much talk.
    6-Turley missed all of last season with a back injury and now wants to play defense to help take the pressure off his back. Major red flag…..
    7- I would rather draft an OT before a wide reciever.

    For the last couple of months, everyone thought this would be a very boring draft since it doesn’t really contain any BLUE chip PROSPECTS, but their seems to be alot of buss going on the last couple of days and even might turn out to be the most exciting draft in years. Their might be a bidding war for Edwards with miami and cleveand wanting to move down and washington, minnesota and the raiders are up to something. Its going to be interesting Saturday, let the fun begin…

    by Derrick on Apr 21, 2005 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

    sorry i forgot to mention murphy is 6 feet and 7/8 in heith and ran a 4.45 in the 40

    by alan on Apr 21, 2005 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

    Ranch Report is reporting that Darren Howard trade is heating up, we may be looking to deal our 20 for Howard and a 3rd rounder.

    I don’t know how i feel about this.

    by Rob on Apr 21, 2005 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

    Rob,

    Why is this bad????

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

    (1) Alan – I don’t think any pot is sweetened by Hunter. And adding him to a pot is to give him away for nothing. As I’ve been posting (and others too), he’s someone who’s started 2-3 games in his carrer, didn’t impress much in the nickle and had a significant injury last year. He’s really not worth much to any team considering a trade w/ the boys (no matter how much we want him to be). I say keep Hunter. He’ll sign with us or he’ll be at the 7-11 serving slurpees. If he signs and fails to impress Parcells, then he’s going to be sitting for a while. But if he impresses, works hard, etc… maybe he can spell our starters, perhaps challengeand at least play nickle.

    (2) Regarding training camp, I went last year. It was awesome. I saw Henson easily out-performn Vinnie in the morning drills and consistently complete passes in the afternoon. Who knew that would be just about the only time I’d see him play? (preseason is not broadcast in the NFL direct tv package).

    I’ll certainly be visiting camp again this year and (this is the best) my girlfriend has now become a Cowboys fan as well and SHE’S looking forward to visiting camp as well.

    by Tedia Naidu on Apr 21, 2005 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

    Tedia,

    I bow in your presence, can you please tell the rest of us how you accomplished this?

    by Chadd on Apr 21, 2005 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

    btw., DeMarcus Ware:

    why is he rising now so close to the draft? Other than the obvious (ie, he’s from a small school), what are the knocks on him? And the pluses? And why would the boys want him over Shawne? He seems smaller and (I think) no faster than Shawne. Plus, he’s really a 3-4 LB — not a 4-3 DE and certainly not a 3-4 DE. Comments?

    by Tedia Naidu on Apr 21, 2005 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

    Chadd – Truth be told – it was easy. Remember the hard knocks “reality” show on HBO some seasons ago? My girlfirend enjoyed the human story in the Cowboy’s training camp. After that, she slowly warmed up to the Cowboys (and football in general). Now she watches games with me and roots passionately for the Cowboys. She was Drew Hensons’ greatest fan and Vinnie’s most bitter critic.

    by Tedia Naidu on Apr 21, 2005 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

    on www.cowboys.com it has parcells contacted claretts agent and asked if clarett would mind a weight clause in a contract. i think it might be a good draft pick in the fifth or sixth compesation pick hes big would be a good change of pace then julius

    by mike on Apr 21, 2005 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

    now on the ranch report they have dallas sending there 20th for howard and the saints 3rd round pick. what do you guys think of that??? i personally think its good a proven de and another third. better then drafting a dud with the 20th….

    by mike on Apr 21, 2005 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

    What a joke the Washington Redskins are if they move up to take Edwards there giving up 4 draft picks including 2#1’s—-Randy Moss would have came cheaper. DannyBoy and his little flunkie Cerrato is running this team deeper and deeper into the ground and I LOVE IT.

    by MdCowboyFan on Apr 21, 2005 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

    With all the other DE rising, Erasmus James is falling. Let him fall to Dallas!! He is the best pass rusher in the draft.

    by Eric on Apr 21, 2005 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

    clarett is not a good idea. he would wanna be a starter right away knowing him, dont think he’d setttle for a bacup role to JJ

    by Ryan on Apr 22, 2005 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

    James had an injury

    failed a mariujauna test

    took off after injuring another player……the second half of the season he was not the same DE……

    Having said all that……..he might well be the best pass rushing DE in the Draft………however he does come with a bit of baggage……..

    by Jon on Apr 22, 2005 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

    I too think Erasmus James would be an ideal pick late in the first round. BP may play the same game as last year – feinting taking Steven Jackson while targeting Julis Jones – same this year with Spears and James. Just hope we don’t get too cute and then shut-out from getting our guy.

    by James on Apr 22, 2005 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

    I’m thinking defense and will be pleased if the Cowboys do the same. I’m not against jumping on a WR like Mike Williams if he falls to #11 but I doubt that happens. Two defensive players in the 1st round will make me smile and I’m not particular. Shawn Merriman, Demarcus Ware, David Pollack, Derrick Johnson…. give me a playmaker or 2 and I will be happy!

    by Marty Ogelvie on Apr 22, 2005 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

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