Second Round Timeline
5:08
The second round is beginning, with the Pats taking OG Logan Mankins of Fresno State to end round one. Some quick observations:
1. In the division, the drafting seems sound. For all the noise about Jason Campbell, I think Washington did well with the Carlos Rogers pick. Philly's pick of Mike Patterson was also solid, though it raises questions about the future of Corey Simon or Hollas Thomas as Eagles.
2. What at the top of your board this round?
5:18
Cleveland takes FS Brodney Pool with the 34th pick.
5:30
The Eagles take WR Reggie Brown, filling a major need.
5:48
The Bears have just picked Oklahoma's WR Mark Bradley. I see value at CB, with Clemson's Justin Miller still on the board, and at WR.
5:53
The Saints take the second FS of the round with Nebraska's Josh Bullocks.
6:00
The Cowboys are on the clock.
6:11
Dallas drafts Tennessee LB Kevin Burnett with the 42nd pick.
The bridges have been burned. Parcells is going 3-4 and there is no turning back. Burnett is another fast, athletic , BIG -- 6'3", 240 lb. -- linebacker to add to the collection. This is also a board pick. Burnett was rated as a high second rounder. You can complain about not filling needs, but you can't call this pick a reach.
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are there any teams before us in the 2nd round that look like they desperately NEED a FS? if not i would say poole is ours…someone help me out cuz i dont know what these otehr teams need
by ryan on Apr 23, 2005 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
i’ll take a wack at #2,
Brodney Pool, he is the top.
if not, maybe
Josh Bullocks
James Butler
Gerald Sensabaugh
Donte Nicholson
Vincet Fuller
Sean Considine
or
Oshimogha Atogwe
either way you get the idea that who ever it is, it better be a ball-hawking FS.
Sorry Hunter, you had your chance to be enthusiastic about being the last peice of the puzzle that solidifies the D.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
Damn Browns,
Okay- Josh Bullocks,
He becomes the man now.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
i know damn the browns but the way ESPN was talkin about POOL they werent really crazy about the kid’s 2004 season but whatever.
i go with bullocks or mathis or murphy
by ryan on Apr 23, 2005 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
all good still alot of excellent players out there with poole gone do we stay at safety or move to wr, ot???
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
All i know if we would have got that kid (Pool) into camp, with the physical skills he brings i think Roy would have brought out his best. but, hopefully, that can be said for whomever we choose at forty-two.
i know OU ain’t the ’canes when it comes to off-season workouts, but it made for some nice daydreams, I love April.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
mark bradley wr very fast needs a lil time to learn… might be a good pick up since we have 2 starters now he could be our third and develope.
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
i do not see us drafting a player on offense today.
unless we trade into the third round today is all about the D.
and don’t hope for much from tomorrow.
the eigth in the fourth and number twelve in round five, maybe we find our reciever and tackle, if we did our homework. after that it is a few practice squad hopefuls.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
still some decent CBs here with size to play either CB or FS
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 5:46 PM CDT reply actions
Ok who is the best cover saftey left out there guys?
by Rick Gray on Apr 23, 2005 5:46 PM CDT reply actions
bullocks maybe? idk bullocks is very good he has to fall 2 more picks then i say snag him…
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
Josh Bullocks
6-0
207
Nebraska
4.58 in the 40-yard dash … 340-pound bench press … 305-pound power clean … 34-inch vertical jump … 32¼-inch arm length … 9 5/8-inch hands
he has got to be the guy, the knock on him is his run stopping…
we should have his back there, he is best with the play in front of him. just what we need.
two picks to go and he is ours.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
i agree j i put up the wr to see what people think i really wanted poole but i dont think theres a huge difference between the 2. cmon please let him fall to us.
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
damn it all to hell,
okay it is now war with the ****ing aints
i want to throw up
by J on Apr 23, 2005 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
Alright a moment of self pity there
we are kicking aint ass from here on out until the end of time,
i will never forgive them for this- Pool was a dream Bullocks was the answer.
it is just like those limeys say “Bullocks to them”
James Butler, come on down you are the next contestant on the FS showcase.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
butler will be a decent pick up its all a let down now though so damn
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
guys we are not converting anyone, Hunter had his chance
it is going to be a true ball hawking free saftey.
we are drafting James Butler only because we now have a reason to hate the aints
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
wait butler not who i was thinking it was do you stats on him??? and of course take a damn commercial when the cowboys are up
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
what about Khalif Barnes OT,
i have been blinded by the D.
he is still on the board a top three O-Lineman
it has got to be the choice.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
Crap…not only Bullocks,,,but Roos as well…after Bullocks was swooped up…I betthem may have been leaning towards Roos…taht’s probably why the Titans jumped up…crap…
by Thomas on Apr 23, 2005 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
barnes would be excellent pick address that need right now prolly could plug him in right away…. times up here we go. its linebacker kevin barnett????
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
3 solid picks…but still need another defensive player to go at FS…
You would have to agree that FS is now the biggest need remaining…then what do you figure is next up… OT? WR? RB?
by Thomas on Apr 23, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
i may have been right about d, but all i can say is
stupid pick,
ruins what had been a perfect day.
sure Butler (6-3, 210) might be available tomorrow.
(yeah right)
but i don’t think that 310 pound OT from Washingtoin will make it too much longer (Barnes).
i was real happy with the first round but we real screwed up with this one
and we didn’t have enough picks to miss with any of them today.
put a fork in us we are done for the day.
somebody give me some good news to get this nasty taste of a Tenn Lb out of my mouth, yuuck.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
I believe it would be a good idea to trade Hunter, Singleton, or Ellis / Glover for a Safety…..I does not look like its going to happen in the draft and we cant exepct hunter, dantzler or whoever in our roster to play FS
by manuel on Apr 23, 2005 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
Looks like BP screwed up. he should have gone with Tuck. You cannever have too many front 7 players. He could also have played linebacker. In the future we will see how badly BP messed up this pick. Oh well this has already been an awesome day!
by Big D on Apr 23, 2005 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
Check this out from ESPN:
Burnett came to Tennessee as a free safety, but was moved to linebacker midway through his true freshman season in 2000. He started two games in 2001 and was set to become the Vols’ fulltime starting “weakside” linebacker in 2002 before tearing his ACL, which required reconstructive knee surgery and cost him the entire 2002 season and 2003 spring practice. As a junior in 2003, Burnett started all 13 games and finished with 77.5 total tackles, 7.5 TFL and 1.5 sacks. Burnett made a wise decision to return for his senior season in 2004 because it gave him time to fully recover and regain his speed and explosiveness. He finished 2004 with 120 tackles, six TFL, one sack and one INT. Burnett is a terrific athlete with good size and even better speed. He is excellent in coverage, has very good range in run support.
Any chance they try and convert him to FS?
by Thomas on Apr 23, 2005 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
KEVIN BURNETT…..who is he? can someone give me some stats, or some good psoitives on this guy so i aint totally pissed with our selection??
i mean we got ware, why go LB again if we got ware???
maybe BP has a FS he wants later on…or thru FS or something i dont know anymore
by ryan on Apr 23, 2005 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
all i can say now is damnit Henson
you had better be worth something because we sure could use a third rounder this year.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
Kevin Barnett??? What is up with that? I am guessing we are going to make the next Darren Woodson out of him. Lets hope anyway. Anyone know much about this guy? Can he cover if so might not be a bad idea. We sure dont need any more small linbackers though. So J tell me whats the scoop on Barnett.
by Rick Gray on Apr 23, 2005 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
maybe theres something in the works we dont know about? i agree though real stupid pick we need a safety so damn bad. parcells on tv
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
okay Thomas, there is the light at the end of the tunnel i was looking for.
if Bill says Burnett is the FS of the future and not Butler than i will listen
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
Here’s a little more about him:
Explosive defender who forces the action. Fast moving laterally, quick closing on the play and makes his presence felt. Gets depth on pass drops displaying outstanding range and collapses well from the outside defending the run. Breaks down well, plays with balance and rarely off his feet. Disciplined, does not bite the play action and takes good angles to ballcarriers. Occasionally placed over the slot receiver and does an admirable job. Defeats blocks and gets through the trash making the tackle.
ANALYSIS: A tenacious, sideline-to-sideline defender, Burnett is a naturally gifted athlete with improved instincts. Lacks the great size, yet has shown consistent improvement in all areas of his game and could be the next productive NFL linebacker to come from the Tennessee program.
by Thomas on Apr 23, 2005 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
I can’t understand why everyone is complaining about this pick. Burnett was rated as a high 2nd pick. They went with the best player available. There wasn’t any FS good enough to pick. If we are going to swith to the 3-4 Defense then we need as many lb’s as we can get. I think this was a good pick. We now have extra players on Defense to maybe trade for a FS. I have faith in Parcells.
by Dan on Apr 23, 2005 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
Strengths: Excellent athletic ability…Good size…Very good speed…Great instincts…Makes plays sideline-to-sideline…Excels in coverage…Can get after the quarterback…Good in pursuit…Explosive tackler…Team leader and captain.
Weaknesses: Might not be all the way back from a major knee injury…Doesn’t always play up to his physical ability…Could stand to add some weight and get stronger.
Notes: Began his career as a safety…Has all the tools you look for and could be in impact performer at the pro level but has to show he is all the way back from the knee injury.
by Big D on Apr 23, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
tell you one thing though it looks like they are done for the day he had his coat on and looked like he was ready to go
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
Can someone please let me know Parcells take on today’s picks. I am at work and unable to get audio to listen to ESPN Radio or watch on the tube for that matter.
Oh yeah we are already saying Burnette is a bust, take it easy guy’s and have faith in the Big Tuna.
by atx_1973 on Apr 23, 2005 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
After that interview I think we can conclude that BP is as elusive as Julius Jones……who’s coaching who? ja ja ja
by manuel on Apr 23, 2005 6:30 PM CDT reply actions
hey Burnett was rated higher than Ware on most boards and 2nd behind only DJ. Bill is on ESPN2 saying Ware reminds him of LT!!!!!
Hope is right, hope Spears reminds him of big Leonard Marshal. We might just be allright if those three are the players BP thinks they are.
Ok so i did not get my premier CB/FS……….but we now have a front seven that will have Ellis, Glover, Spears, Ware, Burnett, Nguyen, James, Shanle, Singleton, Ferguson………and a couple other guys. Hey not bad…….if Ware is the player BP thinks he is………we should be pretty good.
No 3rd round pick………..so we stand pat for the first round tomorrow.
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
okay, the greatest cowboy ever- the man in the Fedora would congradulate going with the best available and great the more LB’s the better.
but when it comes down to it we need a safety.
unless bill knows his man is hunter we have got to make a move to get back on the clock today.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
good point of possibly playing safety hes prolly a lil slow for that position but woodson, right?
by mike on Apr 23, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
There you go started his career as a saftey, I am already feeling a little better, not that I am doubting or ever would doubt Parcells. I guess I got a littel to focused on Free Saftey’s. Thats why I’m not in the war room. Its been a good day and I look forward to tomorrow. Thanx for all the good info guys. Awesome site!!!
by Rick Gray on Apr 23, 2005 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
yes good job everyone with the info and such
but i ahve one question…
if blackstock was there and burnett…then y not blackstock over burnett?? any ideas?
by ryan on Apr 23, 2005 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
ATX; BP did not say much of substance other than they picked 3 good character guys today
by CowboyCarlos on Apr 23, 2005 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
After the readings, I think we did pick a FS even if they’re calling him LB…..he’s fast at 4.63 and has played FS before…….this might be a very good pick maybe
by manuel on Apr 23, 2005 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
NYJ picks a kicker in round 2………what the hell are they doing?
by manuel on Apr 23, 2005 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
Look, there was no top-flight FS available. Is Thornton really projected to start now?
by Tom on Apr 23, 2005 6:42 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks CC!! By the way my name is Carlos.. lol!!!
by atx_1973 on Apr 23, 2005 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
i am actualy extremely happy from today. plus BP said he still wants that 3rd rounder. maybe he’ll make a trade who knows….
but b4 we all get mad at burnett….listen
he has played FS before, one of the faster LBs in the draft and can play in 3-4 or 4-3…. and REMEMBER THAT NGUYEN was selected in the THIRD ROUND and look at him now…give kevin a chance, im sure hes good.
by ryan on Apr 23, 2005 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
I agree Ryan. The guy was all SEC linebacker the last two seasons, hopefully he can be a Woodson type safety. I trust Bill. He has been working diligently this off-season.
In Bill I trust. Hope we get lucky with our other picks.
by atx_1973 on Apr 23, 2005 6:51 PM CDT reply actions
Too funny, I also live in the ATX
Now back to seeing if we are getting a 3rd or are we done for the day?
by CowboyCarlos on Apr 23, 2005 6:51 PM CDT reply actions
We are 3 for 3. Ware, Spears, and Burnett, great day.
by darrell w on Apr 23, 2005 6:51 PM CDT reply actions
what do we have to trade? to get back on the clock…..next pick is 108 overall in the 4th
A player to trade?
Quincy Morgan anyone?
well there are the june cuts coming up……..we might find a cut in June that nets us a decent FS or a CB that could play FS………
But all those DE/OLB/DT guys better be keep quiet next year if we cannot cover recievers. Spears, Ware and Burnett parcells sticking with front seven…….two speedsters and a planet……..Spears could play anywhere along the line in a 3-4 or 4-3…………in a 4-3 you probably rotate him in at DE and DT………Ware as a fast DE……Ferguson and Glover and Ellis or Spears on the other end……..with rotation of these guys plus the other anonymous names already on our roster………
Well only the future will hold but Bill Parcells throws around compliments like 2000 lb texas boulders……..and he just said live on TV Ware reminds of him of ole number 56………LT……..so in Bill we trust.
Let’s go Cowboys……….i do hate the idea of relying on a Pete Hunter though!!!!
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 6:54 PM CDT reply actions
Burnett is a reach for a second round according to NFL.com and the last thing we needed was a reach on the first day in a position we are set at.
IF, Burnett does return to the FS position i am down on him compared to James Butler
6-3 213lbs. out of Georgia Tech
Campus: 4.55 in the 40-yard dash … 315-pound bench press … 450-pound squat … 305-pound power clean … 44-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-8 broad jump … 4.04 20-yard shuttle … 6.71 three-cone drill … Right-handed. Combine: 4.65 in the 40-yard dash … 2.76 20-yard dash … 1.69 10-yard dash … 3.98 20-yard shuttle … 11.07 60-yard shuttle … 7.10 three-cone drill … 40½-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-7 broad jump … Bench-pressed 225 pounds 16 times … 33 3/8-inch arm length … 9¼-inch hands.
good numbers and a better coverage guy than Burnett.
like the NFL piece says he (Burnett) looks like K. Bullock for the Titans (great!!!) but he can’t see well enough to cover (crap!!!)
Burnett is stronger and has comparable combine speeed, but he can’t get to the QB and his zone coverage is circumspect.
we needed a can’t miss ball-hawking saftey and you can see from my previous posts that Josh Bullocks was the man with the plan, but James Butler shouldn’t have been rated too far behind.
it is easy to be down on a guy before he gets to camp, but mark my words
Kevin Burnett goes down with a knee injury (again, check the history) and Pool, Bullocks and Butler go on to be solid starting FS’s for SOMEONE ELSE.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 7:03 PM CDT reply actions
What I have said for years, the most important positions in football are the members of the lines. In the trencehes.
It’s awesome to get back to the basics! :)
by Ring Collector on Apr 23, 2005 7:04 PM CDT reply actions
so does it look like we’re done for the day?…..and if so…thoughts on who we get in the 4th?
by jerryw on Apr 23, 2005 7:24 PM CDT reply actions
Based on what I see about Burnett I don’t think he’d be moved to FS. I think they drafted him to play LB.
by Don S. on Apr 23, 2005 7:25 PM CDT reply actions
you are probably right Don, he looks more and more like a piece in the OLB rotation.
let’s just hope we find our FS, #3 WR, and starting RT tomorrow.
i don’t know about you but i don’t think our chances look that good with the picks we have to fill all those needs.
i guess a free agent like chris Terry might be in our future?
by J on Apr 23, 2005 7:33 PM CDT reply actions
or kyle turley
hey did u all know that ware is faster than benson??
thats prett funny…too bad for benson…we got ourself a steal with two very strong and good d-lineman…i like burnett too
by ryan on Apr 23, 2005 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
Kyle Turley is a cancer, no way.
even more of a risk than the druggie Terry.
Livin out here near Midland, got th see Cedric play a lot in HS, and as much as possible at UT and this is the second time i have heard that Ware is faster than Benson…
i am big on Ware, bigger on Spears and down on Burnett. But if Ware is half the football player Cedric is than we are set along the line for some time to come.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 7:46 PM CDT reply actions
Is Ty Law still a free agent? Whos out there? I dont see how we can move forward w what we have for fs and have much success. If Hunter was on board w switching thats one thing, but hes not. Any thoughts on what we will do? Is there anyone left inthe draft? Man i hope so.
by ericp on Apr 23, 2005 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
I like the first 3 picks. We get the huge end plus the extra linebackers. I wish we could’ve got Pool or Bullocks but hey I’m just happy Spears was around at 20. Between the amount of corners and fs left we could still get a fs in the 4th. I heard BP say he may need to focus on offense, so maybe he will look at wr in the 4th. We still need another big body to play end if we are going 3-4. We have no depth at that position. We could see if Babineux is around in the 4th and use him as an end. oh well looks like Atlanta had the same idea.
by LaMonte on Apr 23, 2005 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
Gentlemen,
1. Burnett is a linebacker. He is not going to be moved to FS.
2. The reason he was taken ahead of Blackstock? Simple. He’s higher rated than him. The DMN board, which Rick Gosselin put together after interviewing NFL scouts and GMs — it’s the closest thing to a REAL NFL board you will find — has Burnett rated 45th overall. Blackstock and Bullocks were both in the 70s. The draft book I’m relying on has Burnett rated higher than Blackstock.
3. This is a value pick. There were no FS rated in the 42 range. Not in the draft book I’ve seen. Not in any of the mock drafts I’ve seen and not on the one board that had real league input into it. Why you would get angry for picking the best player available is beyond me, but that’s what the Cowboys did. The Saints may wind up getting value for Bullocks, but I’m not upset that Dallas didn’t force the pick.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 23, 2005 7:56 PM CDT reply actions
Okay, my Brothers of the Star, Here is the list of FS we should be able to pick from tomorrow.
James Butler (yeah)
Gerald Sensabaugh
Donte Nicholson
Vincent Fuller
Sean Considine
Oshumagha Atogwe
Kerry Rhodes
Dustin Fox
Jim Leonhad
Mitch Meeowsen
Terry Holly
and last but probably least Jerome Carter
i have shown a lot of impatience in the pursuit of Butler, but like the great Spears acquisition of ’05, patience seems to be paying off for our ’Boys.
rounds five and maybe six should hold the kind of reciever Bill is looking for.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 8:00 PM CDT reply actions
Could it be that our future starting fs is still in the draft? Bill is famous for pulling stars out of the late rounds. Could this be what were doing? Maybe the thought is we can get a decent guy late instead of blowing a 2 on whats availible. I just dont get it. someone give a theory or two(that doesnt involve hunter) on how we can fill the position this year.
by ericp on Apr 23, 2005 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
forget a college FS and draft the best CB over 6’ and 200 lbs available in the 4th if there is one…………..
I do not know enough about the kind of WR we are going to find in the 4th to know who to even mention. I thought it was one of the deeper positions in the draft as well as CB. However, we are getting into a lot of small shool guys that I really did not see play. However, I do believe that there will be some RBs, OTs that could help out Julius and our offense.
Burnett would have to lose 15lbs and increase his speed to be an FS, he will be our weakside LB. Kind of surprise I thought BP preferred bigger guys…..maybe does not do this pick if Coakley is still a Cowboy but hey…..Dexter aint……..but Rafael is right he rates higher than Tuck, Roth or Blackstock. He is a pure LB though………..and for everybody out there that was crying for DJ………Burnett looks as awful lot like him. Plays a lot like him too.
I was surprised Spears lasted til 20. Glad it happened though.
Well here is to hoping these guys and tomorrows picks are all players and contributors. I am looking forward to seeing Spears SACK McNabb……..Eli and whoever is qb in DC……….Ramsey, Brunell, Campbell……..
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 8:12 PM CDT reply actions
you make some very solid points, Rafael, i know most of the displeasure i feel toward Burnett is stemming from my anger with the aints for stealing away what i felt was the perfect peice to our D, Josh Bullocks.
but there are different opinions on Burnett out there, and some feel he would be a stretch in the second. with the position we were in i would have had to have taken Khalif Barnes, soldifying the O-line and hope our FS comes to us tomorrow, which it will. that would have left a few swings to take at getting a WR and the needs would have been met.
now, we are going to need some help filling all our needs (FS, RT, WR).
by J on Apr 23, 2005 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
I understand what your saying rafael, but how can we overlook this huge hole in our D? Is theres still talent left at fs?
by ericp on Apr 23, 2005 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
FS, FS, FS ye old bell rings for a free saftey. Great what we got, but we still need a FS to cover what those other guys can’t cover…FS, FS.
Okay, here is my short list:
James Butler (Number one choice for reason…the best that is left)
Gerald Sensabaugh
Dustin Fox
Jim Leonhad
Donte Nicholson
Vincent Fuller
Kerry Rhodes
Dustin Fox
Jim Leonhad
Mitch Meeowsen
Terry Holly
by darrell w on Apr 23, 2005 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
I personally like the picks and it looks as though Bill is looking to put some serious hurt on the NFC East. I think that the Doom is finally back in Doomsday. I can’t wait!!!
I would like to see Mathias (WR) for the 4th round pick, and Sproles at RB in the 5th. We went big on day one. let’s go fast on day 2.
by Kevin on Apr 23, 2005 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
okay, i am done being nice about this.
where is the outrage!!!
look back over your draft sheets gentlemen, we had the chance to solidfy the line if we would have picked up Khalif Barnes at 42 instead of Burnett.
Burnett may have been 45th overall on some boards, but how high was Barnes on those same lists, easily the number three OT of the draft and we let him slip by so we could reach for a guy we don’t need.
once again Barnes at 42, with the masterful moves ot the first round leaves us in the perfect position to find Butler or some other FS at 109 and the rest of the second day would have gone for recievers.
now we are left a few picks short of the perfect squad, and a crap load of 230lbs. LB’s.
by J on Apr 23, 2005 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
I’m with Rafael on this one. I’m fine with Burnett and very pleased with the first day.
Bill got exactly who he wanted with their first two picks. No question. My guess is he might have gone FS had one of the bigger names dropped but failing that he went board value for the Cowboys. No problem what so ever from me.
No excuses next year on D. With a little luck here and there Dallas could look good next year.
I’m just glad that McNabb is not going to be running around for 15 seconds in the backfield while their receivers get open. I’m still miffed about that.
by Don S. on Apr 23, 2005 8:47 PM CDT reply actions
maybe bill is done drafting OT in the 2nd
The Jury is still out on Rogers……….
if you play 3-4……….4 of those guys are linbackers…….uh….we need a crapload of LBs………..some that tackle and HIT………and play smash mouth football…….you Texas A&M guys ought to now who Burnett is…….eh?
Well while I personally would have probably added a CB at 42……….Bill is stacking the front 7. He is also sending a message to the roster…….they did not get the job done. Some of those crapload of lbs……..may not make the cut with Ware and Burnett added to the mix.
I still see us not very deep at the D Line…….for either 3-4 or 4-3……..I have a sneaking suspicison Bill may run a 4-3 on first and second and rushing yardage……….and then go to the 3-4 to get a better pass rush. So Ellis is getting snaps and playing…….and then the Glover Ferguson and Spears line up with the LBs of Ware Nguyen Singleton(james or thornton) and Burnett……..in the 4-3 Ware can play DE and you rotate Glover Ellis Ferguson Spears and all those other guys that we have on the line…..like 3 of em……
so no we do not have that great rotation of our super bowl years…….instead we change schemes……..and the LBs get lots of rotation…….that is where i see us on Defense……..
but hey 3-4 or 4-3………Spears and Ware ought to be immediate improvement to our Defense so should Burnett………
June cuts still coming up………
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 8:47 PM CDT reply actions
I want to see a Ware Spears Pancake of McNabb………oh ok a Ferguson Glover sandwich…….or an Ellis Spears………either way……….the idea of 307 lb rookie sacking McNabb is very exciting.
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
unfortunately, its not just FS. its also a starting right tackle, a 3rd down scat back, and a bruiser RB to spell Julius Jones (Jones has only played 8 games and who knows how he’ll perform for a whole season?)
Of course, we can’t do it all in one pick. And as Rafael wrote, Burnett was a value pick. Maybe he’ll work well for us at LB (no way he’s a FS). But then, why not trade down? Unless BP was in love with Burnett (which has comments didn’t seem to suggest), then why not trade? I imagine someone would have been interested in Barnes or Cody even if we weren’t. We could have swapped 2nd round picks and possibly picked up a 4th or maybe even a 3rd.
Frankly, I was hoping for such a trade. Maybe JJ was trying for that but failed?
by Tedia Naidu on Apr 23, 2005 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
Dline depth. Ellis, Ferg, Glover, Spears, Ogobu, Carson, Brooks, and include Ware if you want. I mean that’s a pretty mean rotation. Only Ellis and Glover don’t fit some part of the 3-4 scheme. Ellis and Glover are smart enough and work hard enough they, will find thier place to contribute. Some weeks depening on who the competition is we’ll play the 4-3 some weeks the 3-4. Maybe some 2-5 who knows, thats what makes NE good, thier coaches ability to get their players for whatever scheme they want to throw at a team.
by Josh on Apr 23, 2005 8:51 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
Gil Brandt, whatever stock you put in his analysis, had Burnett as the third rated LB and Blackstock as the fourth, each behind Derrick Johnson and Channing Crowder.
Evidently, expert opinion varies greatly. Given Blackstock’s tumble from projections as high as 20, more people are using your book!
I didn’t watch too much Tennessee ball and I don’t want to degrade Burnett in any way and I hope he’s all that, but I did watch UVA and I personally think Blackstock would have been an equally good pick at 42 and would be excellent at 109 (or further).
I just hope now that we don’t end up facing him twice a year.
by StarStruck on Apr 23, 2005 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
the d-mned eagles seem to be having a great draft. No reaches. Several high value picks. It makes me sick. At least the redskins are going no where.
Here’s hoping for an ugly McNabb sandwich at the hands for our front 7.
by Tedia Naidu on Apr 23, 2005 9:04 PM CDT reply actions
McNabb’s on the Madden cover, he’s done. ;)
The ‘skins seem to be going in circles. Maybe Gibbs’ thinking remains entrenched in NASCAR.
by StarStruck on Apr 23, 2005 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
the Giants did pretty good too for not even having a first rounder………wind up with Webster and Tuck………
We will beat the Eagles this year.
Josh,
I have no doubt Glover can play 3-4. I also agree Ellis works hard enough to play 3-4 or 4-3 but would definitely need some breathers……..in a 3-4……….I think we added some football players and I am glad we did not trade picks this year……….we had needs and we got some of those met today….
we played some 3-4 last year without Ware Spears and …..Burnett……..personally I am glad to see a big monster in Spears…….to me him at 20 seems like we got lucky there……….but I am glad………Parcells seems really high on Ware so I espect a lot out of those two………..give me 15 sacks between the two of em and I will be happy……..
by Jon on Apr 23, 2005 9:18 PM CDT reply actions
Why is Denver’s second 3rd round pick, the 26th, being forfeited? Just curious..
by StarStruck on Apr 23, 2005 9:19 PM CDT reply actions
I think Denver had to forfiet that pick due to salary cap violations
by GB on Apr 23, 2005 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
Bring on the Eagles baby!! … still there Ciatrick Fason, Jerome Mathis, Brandon Browner, and Sean Considine.
by Eric on Apr 23, 2005 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
I love what we did today, but I’m selfish. And although I love the idea of our defense making a comeback, I don’t want to return to the days of trying to win 12-9 or 9-7. Those days were painful.
Any way we can shore up the O-line? Does anyone know of any June cut rumors? Are there any veteran opportunities?
by Cooper on Apr 23, 2005 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
Kyle Turley………….
If you want to take that chance
by Randy on Apr 23, 2005 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
Randy, with all do respect.
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!
by atx_1973 on Apr 23, 2005 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
Thats why I said, if YOU want to take that chance. I definetely dont. Im hoping Vollers, Rogers, Tucker step up, that could really be the key to our season. Having said that, heres what I want tomorrow
4th-Ciatrick Fason-RB-Florida(projected 2nd rounder)
5th-Vincent Fuller-FS-VT (Absolutely perfect physical tools, just needs sxperience, reminds me of Ed Reed)
6th-Best OT
6th-Best WR
7th-BPA
by Randy on Apr 23, 2005 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
Here’s the deal.
Burnett was the best player left on the Cowboy’s board at 42.
Why? Because he can play inside LB in the 3-4, and outside LB in the 4-3. We have no other linebackers who can do that.
I’m guessing everyone has figured out that we are using BOTH schemes – which is probably the most tremendous scheme advantage in the NFL right now.
So in 3-4 we will see Brady/Thornton, Burnett, Dat, Ware.
In 4-3 we will see Singleton/Shanle/Brady, Dat, Burnett/O’neill.
I would love to ave gotten an awesome FS too. But like BP said last year, “You can’t just go down to the TEXACO and pick out the parts you need.”
With what we got today (plus Furguson and Henry), we might have to live with a Lynn Scott or a Keith Davis this year.
Considering the pressure we will create, they might look okay.
by bigjim on Apr 23, 2005 11:39 PM CDT reply actions
here’s my day two draft plan
4th – Marion Barber RB – if available to much of a value to let pass by
5th – Darren Sproles RB/ST – need an explosive return man
6th – Calvin Armstrong OT – exp pass blocker
6th – Sean Consodine FS – worth risk at this pick
7th – ? Best player available de/dt for 3-4
I didn’t take a fs until the 6th because I think the players we have or can acquire are better than what would be available. I would pick Vincent Fuller in the 4th because of his cover skills but I don’t think he will be available. Considine has been to the ranch you don’t need to reach to get him. I think Barber would be a perfect fit for the offense. He is a hard runner that can move the pile and he’s used to sharing carries. Sproles is better than anyone we have returning kicks.
Back to the real world
today was good all of our picks will be instant contributors.
Hey Clarrett just got picked by Denver
by LaMonte on Apr 24, 2005 12:12 AM CDT reply actions
considine is still available for safety. im starting to agree with you rafael might not be a bad pick there, im doing some reading on this guy and he sounds like a possible stud at lb. i wanna take this time to apologize for doubting the tuna….
by mike on Apr 24, 2005 12:12 AM CDT reply actions
I would like to see BP add a at least one WR to the list of picks today. There are some good ones left. And how about some protection for Bledsoe.
by Kevin on Apr 24, 2005 6:56 AM CDT reply actions
let bill find the answer he’s been working non-stop since the end of the season no time off. he said he was embarassed with last season and that he was going to fix it. im with him. let him pick’em. THE BOYS ARE BACK!!!!
by mark kaufman on Apr 24, 2005 7:29 AM CDT reply actions

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