Post-Draft Crumbs
An old security blanket? The Detroit Lions released long-time Cowboys FS Brock Marion today. I did not see Marion play in '04 and can't comment on his current skill level, but if the twelve-year veteran still has some range, he could be an inexpensive security blanket at FS.
Undrafted free agents Some names from the undrafted free agent crop have started to filter out. They include:
The Cowboys will release the full list on Thursday.
Merriman holds a grudge Chargers LB Shawne Merriman had some harsh words for Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones after the draft. He claims the two "lied to him and smacked him in the face" because they told Merriman Dallas would select him if it got the chance. Dallas faces San Diego in the season opener, so we'll get to see who does the smacking and who gets smacked.
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on www.dallascowboys.com micky s. says they were almost harassing him with there phone calls, according to merriman. lol what a dumb ass these people were gonna drop prolly close to 10 million on this kid and he cares that they were calling him? o well im glad now we didnt take him. as far as brock marion is concerned if nothing else he would be a good mentor for a kid whose learning the position and maybe start the season a starter then move to backup if hes willing. i would like to see the move, was dissapointed when he left…
by mike on Apr 25, 2005 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
agreed, no i’m glad we didn’t get the whiny bastard
by Chris on Apr 25, 2005 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
i watched tape of the maryland and virginia games.. he was getting slapped around by heath miller. the te that the steelers drafted. i am so glad that we didn’t get derrick johnson either. i am tickled with our draft.
by Darrell M on Apr 25, 2005 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
if we can get marion at the veteran min. i say just on him. i had rather have a healthy ty law, but marion with something to prove could be good as well.
by Darrell M on Apr 25, 2005 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, Merrimen, do you want some cheese with that whine. You can have the first crack at the boys on week one, so I’m looking to see Dan Campbell to run over you like Heath Miller did when your Terps play Virgina.
by Derrick on Apr 25, 2005 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
Poop on Merriman, What a putz! I hear that our 6th Pettiti likes to punch DE’s in the mouth. See you September 11th crybaby!
As for Marion. Yes, bring him back for 1 year to bridge the gap and let him retire a Cowboy!
by James on Apr 25, 2005 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
Heath Miller might be a stud at TE but he aint not Tackle…….and yeah he drove Merriman on his BUT.
Ware bench and squat numbers are huge for a guy his size so is his 40 and and reps…….plus………HE SAX QBS!!!!
I think DJ will have to increase his strength to be a force. You gotta believe Dallas knew all about DJ and almost every other player at Rice, Baylor, SMU, A&M not to mention the smaller schools.
I cannot believe Ware and Spears……..i thought Spears would be gone.
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
i am so happy. i love the way this all played out. merriman sounds like one of those guys that just feels he’s number 1 and that he should get so much notive for it, hes a lil overrated in my books
as for ware, this kid is the real deal. i love him already. i mean he doesnt seem like a merriman loud mouth and seems to really be a catch. his numbers are fascinating and outrageous i man look at mickey’s story about him in one of his new articles, this kid knows what he is doing, and was somewhat of a sleeper in my books, but im glad dallas picked him up over DJ, he may be a lil overrated as well
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
can someone tell me why they got rid of the 12 or 13 round drafts??
i mean with only 255 selections, many are bound to get left behind, even though they get picked up after the draft if theyre that good. but i mean if you have more selections as you would with 12 or 13 rounds, everyone gets a fair shot at a team and a mini camp to see what it is like and maybe make the roster. they at least GET A CHANCE.
and MUNOZ quit football! i know he probably wanted a chance and would have if there were more rounds. i just think everyone who wants to be in the draft should get a fair shot at a pick. even if they are bad.
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
rafael,
you suck! why u gotta steal basically MICK’s report on shawne merriman. get your own material.
by jacob on Apr 25, 2005 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
rafael,
can i see a picture of you?? like on this site….i am really intrigued by your columns and would like to see ya….and i love the dallas cowboys, and having you as a write makes my life even better since i get daily new stuff, i have grown to love the cowboys now, i think mainly cuz of you. how bout that pic on your site??
ummm jacob…..
that was not stolen as you say, everyone gets material from other sources, how do you know he didnt read it somewheres else?
by jess on Apr 25, 2005 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe Merriman will be like Arrington…….
I was hurt……..and nobody cared. I could not play and it was like…….well it was almost like I could not play?
Duh in the NFL that is the BIZ……..ask Julius how much love he got from Bill after that shoulder injury. Remember Bill saying……..before he returns…….yeah he better be ready…..the day the trainers say………i want to get a good luck at him……..then handing him the ball 30+ times to beat Earl Campbells carries……..
This is Professional Football………and I think we got ourselves some Professionals. If Ware makes the pro bowl he might compete with Glover for NFL strong man competition……….yeah and he is a rookie………
Marion at FS……..hmmmm……..as insurance bring him in………what is league minimum for a 12 year FS? Guess what Pete it is more than you are getting paid!!!!!
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
jacob,
I stole it from the San Diego paper. See the link? I guess that makes Mickey a thief too, huh?
by Rafael Vela on Apr 25, 2005 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
Jacob,
when Mick gets a blog……..
and when he writes as much or as intelligently as Rafael you can rag on this site…………
Until then………SHUT UP……….this is the best free stuff on the NET!!!!! Bar none!!!!!
Keep up the good work Rafael!!!
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
jacob,
If you don’t like the food, then don’t eat it. Get lost.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
Eric,
We are agreeing way too much here lately!!!!
Jon
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
Did Dallas sign an FA QBs or other Safeties?
I see they added a few more LBs, those guys legit LBs or possible Safeties? I mean there are college LBs around 200 on a lot of teams.
There is a great point about this draft that Mickey makes. Henson is our 3rd Rounder!!!! Which I did not look to see who Houston Drafted……..but we got a guy that had Tom Brady on the bench as a Freshman………in the 3rd Round……….so he needs to be better than……..oh lets see……….Kyle Orton……..and he is worth the trouble.
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 5:49 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
What do you think about Rolle now? … I mean how much better does our secondary look now with Ware, Spears, Burnett, and Canty joining the fray?
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
- 73 Houston (from Dallas) Morency, Vernand RB Oklahoma State
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
Someone wrote that Dallas signed Goolsby from N.D. He is a special teams catalyst. Big hits, pops the ball loose from returners, you know all that good stuff. I compared him to Kennith Gant, he brings a similar excitement to special teams that Gant did in the early 90’s for the Boys.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Eric,
I always maintained a great front increases the secondary…….the 2 work hand in hand. Our secondary was as bad as our Front 7. I would have been tempted at 42 to look at Justin Miller or Poole. But the way it fell…..and the players we got……..Canty might be the steal of the draft.
Honestly neither of us has any idea how good Reeves, Frazier, Jones, Thornton………or Hunter, Beirault, Dantzler will be in our Secondary…..Hopefully BP does……he sure drafted CBs often enough last year……and you know maybe he did not see the DE or LBs there last year……he would have added a DE if he saw one.
I am very happy with WARE and SPEARS…..great players. If Burnett is what BP thinks he is………fine too. Henry was added at CB, and Hunter better shut up and play. Frazier showed promise, and Reeves hung in there.
Antrel Rolle……..will be the best corner taken in this years draft and barring injury will be a pro bowler 5 years. What do I think of him……..I would love a Star on his helmet. He played the best WR in College and SHUT HIM DOWN……..he practiced against Kellen Winslow and Roscoe Parrish………he showed up BIG in every game………probably his worst game was first half against Louisville……but he was tough……against both ACC and Big East. Nobody played that schedule except Miami and Va Tech…..due to conference change……….that is a lot of exposure to some pretty good college talent……….If I had to say what player on Defense Dominated……..I say Antrel Rolle. Carlos Rogers might have been a close second, darn sure was clutch in the Bowl…….
but we got a ton of CBs last year……..and I am very happy with the quality picks. The Speedy DE, the Planet and another DE……and a DT….and a RB and an OT……about the only complaint would have been an FS…..or CB that could have played either………but hey…….those guys been around the league a few years and get cut after the drafts………like a Brock Marion maybe might just be the insurance we need.
I think we go to the PLayoffs………and beat the Eagles………
Lets Go Cowboys
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
even if Henson is a complete Bust……he was only a 3rd rounder……..
unless that kid for Houston is the next Barry I say we are ok………I think Henson is working his but off. I think he was little peeved at the Drew signing and the “Bill told me I start!” Comment………..who knows maybe Bill scripted that line to Drew B…….word is Drew is getting his understanding of Offense……..and workouts……with Recievers….and who knows……this guy……..unlike our last great qb Aikman……is not getting KILLED in the pocket…….he might just develop……..
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
Just a thought:
A player to keep an eye on might be Craig Hentrich. (yeah another Golden Domer) He is an excellent punter (averages about 42.5 yards), but also cameos as a decent place kicker, and a very nice kick-off guy. Why would Tennessee want to pay him $1.5 million when they are rebuilding? Jerry might want try to get him for future draft choice. He would be a nice fit in Big D, for field position purposes, but also would be there incase our place kicker went down.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
rafael,
can i see a picture of you?? like on this site….i am really intrigued by your columns and would like to see ya….and i love the dallas cowboys, and having you as a write makes my life even better since i get daily new stuff, i have grown to love the cowboys now, i think mainly cuz of you. how bout that pic on your site??
by jess on Apr 25, 2005 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
sorrry that its so off topic, but hey, girls are fans too of the NFL and writers
by jess on Apr 25, 2005 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
can someone tell me why they got rid of the 12 or 13 round drafts??
i mean with only 255 selections, many are bound to get left behind, even though they get picked up after the draft if theyre that good. but i mean if you have more selections as you would with 12 or 13 rounds, everyone gets a fair shot at a team and a mini camp to see what it is like and maybe make the roster. they at least GET A CHANCE.
and MUNOZ quit football! i know he probably wanted a chance and would have if there were more rounds. i just think everyone who wants to be in the draft should get a fair shot at a pick. even if they are bad.
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
I agree Rafael keep up the great work. Take a hike jacob!!
by atx_1973 on Apr 25, 2005 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
jacob dont come in here and act as if you know it all or anything…if your a fan of dallas, be a respective fan, otherwise stay out
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
rafael,
your QUITTING?!?!!! you cant quit your the best writer on the net….please ya cant do that man you give us fans so much excitement…dont quit!!!
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
Eric, I’d put my paycheck on BP/JJ not trading picks for a punter. One of Bill’s philosphies is that there are plenty of punters/kickers around. You don’t need to give away picks for one. Hentrich is only the emergency PK – not even the main guy.
That doesn’t mean he can’t be signed after being released, but don’t bet the farm on trading draft picks for him.
by dave on Apr 25, 2005 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
Before you quit contact me.
Maybe some of us other fans can help you out.
Also do you get any add revenues from the site?
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
This is funny.
Some loser with the appropriate addy of loserville@aol.com is trolling as me.
I’m not going anywhere.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 25, 2005 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
hakim was also released today…
go here to see him and marion being released…
http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=414995
marion had 112 tackles and 3 INTS!!!!
he looks pretty good for bein a 12 year vet…hed be a great player and mentor in my eyes
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
rafael,
thats a relief, you should try and prevent that person from doin it again….maybe it was that loser jacob??
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Dave,
Hentrich is a punter, but can PK if say the regular guy gets hurt during the game. 42.5 average and kicks to the corner well. He is a weapon!! Especially to a good defense! …. When I say future pick, I don’t mean a first day selection!!
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
As far as the Brock Marion issue, at least we could bring him into camp like we did with some of Parcells vets in the past.
by osa420 on Apr 25, 2005 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
Eric,
Do not get on the Mike we gotta have Nugent rant.
Kickers are FA walk ons…….worst case you call up the local soccer team and get 5 guys……….that doesn’t work you call Mexico or Brasil and get 10 each………a great kicker that did not have the speed to play soccer…….
kickers and punters……..come on guys……….we have never had an issue at P or K in like 30 years……..
my favorite Punter of all time………Danny White cuz he was the QB TOO. Save the roster spot for a football player!!!!!
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 6:59 PM CDT reply actions
Plus Danny White rewrote Staubach’s records. But you’re right, his unique advantage was the punting—or the fake punting I should say. Another tactical advantage employed by Tom Landry.
by StarStruck on Apr 25, 2005 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
The first time we get a net punt of 15 yards in a big game, you will change your mind … if not loose it.
I didn’t realize McBriar was so good last year though. So probably a null point anyway.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
regardless of how good some ND or OSU kicker or Punter is………my philosphy is you do not waste a Draft pick on a K or a P.
Look at all the walk ons for the Cowboys that have kicked well. Both at home and on the road. If McBriar sucks bring in anyone of the FA Punters to take his place……..
Punters and Kickers……….are not draft picks………well unless you are the NY Jets………or the Buffalo Bills……..but we ain’t so we got no need to go trade picks for a guy that spends all of 40 seconds of the entire game kicking the pigskin……….
if we have too Rafael can put a job listing…………Punter and Kicker wanted in Dallas………….pays a couple hundred thousand……….more than the salary of B soccer leagues………..you will have a thousand guys show up………and you will find a K and a P……
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
on Danny White…..does anybody else remember how close White was to making a comeback after “The Catch” to win it for Landry and the Boys. He does that he is probably in the Hall of Fame.
Oh well……..still hurting over that one
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
Punters are weapons … or should I say reliable punters are. I mean pinning a team inside the 5. Reversing field position on a 3 and out. Henrich barely has a punt returned on him, a 6.4 yard average per punt return. So he gets great yardage, and gets his punts high. Then like I said he can kick-off for you and place kick if your regular PK goes down within the game. Oh he also holds for field goals. Comon now that’s Jay Novacheck’s old spot.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 7:16 PM CDT reply actions
on Danny White…..does anybody else remember how close White was to making a comeback after “The Catch” to win it for Landry and the Boys. He does that he is probably in the Hall of Fame.
Oh well……..still hurting over that one
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 7:16 PM CDT reply actions
can he play QB as well as Danny White……..if he can do that send them a future draft pick……..otherwise…….let the FAs that always come to Dallas every year to kick show up and win the job.
Great Punters………Reggie Roby…………how many Super Bowl Rings?
Name the punter for the last 10 Super Bowl Champions? Without GOOGLE!!!!!! Ah, gotcha again.
Jett was a decent punter………where did we get him?
by Jon on Apr 25, 2005 7:19 PM CDT reply actions
rafeal,
gotta give you your props man this site is the sh#$ love it. as far as jacob is conserned ever see something on the news then read it in the paper? same thing. like i posted before brock is the man bring him in here to at least try him out, is he hurt or did the lions let him go purely money reasons??
by mike on Apr 25, 2005 7:51 PM CDT reply actions
can someone PLEASE tell me why they got rid of the 12 or 13 round drafts??
i mean with only 255 selections, many are bound to get left behind, even though they get picked up after the draft if theyre that good. but i mean if you have more selections as you would with 12 or 13 rounds, everyone gets a fair shot at a team and a mini camp to see what it is like and maybe make the roster. they at least GET A CHANCE.
and MUNOZ quit football! i know he probably wanted a chance and would have if there were more rounds. i just think everyone who wants to be in the draft should get a fair shot at a pick. even if they are bad.
by ryan on Apr 25, 2005 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
Ryan,
It was part of one of the last collective bargaining agreements. The players assocation argued convincingly that the odds of somebody making a team after round 8 fell off dramatically and that it would be in everybody’s best interest to shorten the draft and give more former late rounders a chance to shop themselves around. I’m not sure why the teams agreed on it, but one reason is probably that they are committed to fewer players, and have more leeway with cap money.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 25, 2005 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Great QB …… Dan Marino …… how many Super Bowls?
Not a great point there.
Don’t know who the last 10 S.B. punters were, but I will tell ya that Parcells had a guy in New York that helped them not only win a S.B. but also helped them get there!!!
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
Landeta in 1990, teams averaged 7.1 yard per return.
Hentrich last season, 6.3 yards per return.
He also can kick field goals, kick-off, and hold for the PK.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 8:27 PM CDT reply actions
In fact, the Giants punted 1 less time than their opponents in 1990, yet their net gain in the punting game was 342 yards. That’s over 20 yards per game. Landeta managed to pin teams twice as many times as the Giants got pinned that deep (24 to 12). Not to mention 11 touchbacks to 4. A weapon to a great defense indeed!
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
Eric, I stand by my opinion. Kickers are a dime a dozen and you don’t waste a pick on someone not even considered a football player. To this day, I’m still astounded by the Raiders picking up Janikowski in the 1st round a few years ago or the Jets first (2nd round) pick this year. Too many people think that a late round pick is a throw-away. The league is/has been loaded with studs that were drafted in the 7 the round. I agree that Hentrich is above average, but Bill won’t waste a pick to trade for him. I don’t know his salary, but most of them don’t make enough to be released unless they’re weak kickers or trouble (read: Todd Sauerbraun) – especially for one that will mainly be a punter. Heck, even I averaged 41 yards as a punter on my HS team. All those years of soccer paid off I guess, but my point is that many guys can do this (or at least close to it) at a fraction of the cost and without giving up draft picks.
Of course, that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong – but not according to what I’m seeing from others. Would love to see him if released though or maybe a guy they’re giving up on anyway.
by dave on Apr 25, 2005 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
i agree with you dave, unless theres some absolute stud average 50 yd punts and constantly is pinnin opponents inside the 20, or a guy who consistantly hits 55-60 yd fg/
by mike on Apr 25, 2005 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
Is it just me or did it seem like Parcells was a little excited talking about henson and his 4500 passes he has thrown this off season…when parcells says something positive about someone it means something, plus parcells has been seen beaming with smiles – when has that ever happened…if nothing else he is very excited that Henson is putting forth the effort to get better…and by the way tha works for me as well…
I guess we will know more after the mini camp. Could be the best draft ever for the boys…sweet
by Thomas on Apr 25, 2005 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
While I like Rafael’s writing for the most part, to say its the best info on the net about the Cowboys may be stretching it. I heard the day before the draft that at 11 we would be taking Ware and praying to get Spears at 20. Also the day before I was told that Canty was on the Cowboys radar in the middle rounds. I didn’t see that stated with any confidence on this blog. I heard all of this as a member of autumnthunder.com. Its an invitation site, but you can go look at the posts if you like.
by Josh on Apr 25, 2005 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
i hear the cowboys will bring in:
Reggie Harold, WR
Keith Joseph TE
and the guy you probably already know
Tyson Thompson RB-KR
all i have are names on the first two, but i hear Thompson
can return well, so there will be competition for the return spots this year.
no word on any rookie safties (think, James Butler)
but the more i hear about Beriault the better off i feel we are,
sorry Brock, we loved ya’, but we don’t need ya’
by J on Apr 25, 2005 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
Wondering if Jess ever got that pic from Rafael? I bet he is one ugly SOB.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
J
So we don’t need Marion because you feel good about Beriault,ever seen Beriault play?
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
The undrafter rookies we signed add depth and competion at camp. We are going to see what we have at linebacker real quick. I’ve been looking up the draft stats on our second year players that saw time last season and we’re not looking bad. We have alot of young players on the roster and alot of the cowboys improvement is going to depend on the how well the coaching staff does in teaching these guys how to fit their talents into our defensive scheme. We won’t have a blazing receiving corps but I can deal with that for this year. Crayton and Copper should show improvement. Jones, Barber, and Pollite should be a good rotation and combination of skills at RB. I think Parcells is comfortable with the choices he has at fs. Either Beriault, Hunter or Thornton should play and could even rotate depending on the situation. You could use Beriault in the red zone limiting the area he has to cover thereby playing to his strengths. In the end I think we have the players we need to make it to the playoffs but it all depends on how well the coaches can teach and how quickly the players can learn. School’s in session.
I can’t wait to crush the redskins, what a pathetic draft(no offense to the players) they got one starter. Maybe if they change their name their luck will change too.
by LaMonte on Apr 25, 2005 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
are you telling me the truth,
you’re gonna take a broken down veteran who might
take a paycut for the “home team”, but is still going to be overpriced
and outplayed by anyone of the young, hungry rookies
that Bill brings in?
by J on Apr 25, 2005 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
Just like the young hungry rookies trying to play corner last year?
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
I figure Lee, Bickerstaff or THompson(UNdrafted Rookie)
makes the team before Pollite does.
With Barnes at FB and maybe both Ryan and Peirce at the TE this year.
but, i do agree Copper and Crayton will be exciting to watch if they can make thaat next step.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
how many guys have to go down in a row before you cut them some slack. injuries happen, but recurrent injuries at the same position is too much to handle during the course of a season. and yes, hungry just like they were.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 10:40 PM CDT reply actions
Lamonte
What does there team name have anything to do with it?
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 10:41 PM CDT reply actions
leave lamonte out of this, what exactly was wrong with what our corners did before everyone and their mother started to break their leg?
by J on Apr 25, 2005 10:43 PM CDT reply actions
J
So last year u think it was a wise going in to the season without a proven corner?Just a bunch of hungry rookies.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 10:49 PM CDT reply actions
Don’t know if we are counting, but New England drafted a kicker and a punter during Parcells reign there (two 5th rounders). I’m not even suggesting using a draft pick to select a rookie P or K. Trading a late round pick for a proven NFL comodity, so he doesn’t hit the market, sounds more like it. Dallas already has the problem of fitting all their draft picks on to their roster, so a future late round pick isn’t loosing the world here. Landeta and the Giants’ punting game out gained their opponents by 342 yards. Out gain a team in rushing by 20 yards a game PER GAME, and its a huge victory. Do it on special teams and you want to over look it? Like I said 24 times inside the 20, compared to the Giants getting pinned 12 times. He is worth a late round pick, but again the point is probably mute because McBriar had a pretty good season last year as well.
by Eric on Apr 25, 2005 10:52 PM CDT reply actions
TheTruth
It means exactly what I said. Nuff said.
I’ll talk about safety all day. The pressure the front 7 can apply will help tremendously. As for proven depth all we have is Pete Hunter and he’s not that proven but he’s what we got. Who knows how the youngsters will play but I have hope.
by LaMonte on Apr 25, 2005 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
did you say wise, or did you say capped out when it comes for paying for an expensive, comin-off an injury vet like oh i don’t know Bobby Taylor who is merely band-aide.
EVerybody has figured out it is not only cheaper it is better in the long run to DRAFT and scout well than to Dan Snyder-it and overpay for someone who won’t produce and won’t be there next year.
i mean seriously, we waited until this year to sign the free aagent we needed not only because of cap space but because our new secondary coach played up the young Henry so much that we couldn’t stay away.
so last year we did the best we could with the money we had and this yeaar we spent wisely on a young guy whose best years are in front of him.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
now truth was that really necessary, Eric didn’t mean no harm.
now i on the other hand….
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
Part of the reason they were 6-10 last was because of there name?
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:01 PM CDT reply actions
your not gonna overpay for Marion , he’s not gonna be asking for bobby taylor money.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
I agree with the wise spending. We could’ve done alot of stupid things done Howard, Price, Abraham. Those players would have helped but in hindsight you can see the wisdom in free agency and the draft. By not over spending now there is room to sign players later in case of injury or desperate O line help. Speaking of OL help. AZ just released RT clements I know absolutely nothing about him except what it says on AZ website. why not bring him in for a look. He’s not too old and can’t cost much. I’d take Az hakim if he came cheap and use him on special teams.
by LaMonte on Apr 25, 2005 11:05 PM CDT reply actions
okay obviously you are too stupid to understand what Lamonte meant so i will tell you but you have to promise to turn off your computer and leave us alone, fair?
the washington “Redskin’s” is considered by most thinking, breathing people an antiquated and derrogatory term (That means old and hurtful) when taking into account we are talking about people (native american) and not a lifestyle (cowboy) or an animal (bear, bengal -that’s a tiger,etc…)
now don’t get me wrong when it comes to football i hate me sum ‘skins, but Lamonte raises a valid point and you came here for a fight, but you can’t duel with the one before you so you lash out at the innocent,
for shame….
now leave.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
sorry about that Lamonte,
i don’t think we will see a lot of FA movement at RT,
i think the bosses are happy with the competition they will have.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:12 PM CDT reply actions
(from the previous thread)
TheTruth Says:
April 25th, 2005 at 7:23 pm
It amazes me how little each of you know about the game of football.
Could The Truth possibly be loserville@aol?
by StarStruck on Apr 25, 2005 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
The only players u can sign during the season are players who no team wants.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
Local news down here in Houston just said that Aaron Glenn has Dallas first on his wish list of places to go if things can be worked out. He hasn’t been released (given permission to seek a trade though) so it would require players or picks right now. I believe he was a BP guy at NY, but I have my doubts about whether Bill would make the trade. He’s still a decent CB, but became expendable when they got Buchanon from the Raiders. I don’t know if they would look at him for FS or nickel back, but if the price is right…. They might be better off to see if he gets released instead of trading for a 32 y.o CB. I think an expendable player or two is more likely than picks, but I would wait to see if he gets released at his age. Bill’s probably won’t commit to anthing big due to his age.
by dave on Apr 25, 2005 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
as far as special teams it seems like alot of the lower roster guys have experience at returning.
there are a lot of options from
Barber, Merritt, Woody or even the undrafted rookie, Thompson.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:14 PM CDT reply actions
StarStruck,
what did you see out of Glenn last year?
any indication that he would move to FS, besides his affinity to BIll.
we here often of players either becaause of Texas or now because of the coach who want to be here, but does he still have something to offer us?
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:22 PM CDT reply actions
I think I would rather have Marion over Glenn simply because he has played the FS before in Miami and was a Pro Bowler doing it. There both old and I would rather see us throw money at Law.
by Lou on Apr 25, 2005 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
so again they were 6-10 last year because there team name is Redskins
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:24 PM CDT reply actions
When June comes around we will know if we need to pick up a fs. this will give our guys a chance to prove themselves and will be more cost effective.
by LaMonte on Apr 25, 2005 11:27 PM CDT reply actions
U think that really had anything to do with it?
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:27 PM CDT reply actions
If mini camp is before june then that’s round 1 for the guys on the roster.
by LaMonte on Apr 25, 2005 11:31 PM CDT reply actions
okay listen here truth,
if you can’t scroll up and read, you can read?
read what has been said the man made a valid point.
and i already told you all you need to know,
so good night.
LaMonte you have said it exactly right,
the guys will compete in California and if we need help
it is obvious there will be veterans available to fill the need,
until then we are happy with what we’ve got
the competition between Hunter and Beriault should yeild us a real football player
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:32 PM CDT reply actions
I wouldn’t call Aaron Glenn toast. A friend has season tickets and I see him play about 4-5 home games per year. He’s not elite, but he’s certainly not toast yet. I also think he would be a better option than what we have currently at FS. Like I said, I would wait and see if he gets released. He might be available for a song unless someone does something stupid or really needs an experienced CB and overpays. I’m not suggesting he play CB, but I think he can still cover at the FS spot (as well as the nickel) but only after seeing what else might shake down after the June cuts. There are others that might be available, but here’s a guy who knows his role in the 3-4, knows the BP schemes, wants to be here, and shouldn’t eat much of the cap space. Not as ridiculous as it may sound if the top guys are out of our reach.
by dave on Apr 25, 2005 11:34 PM CDT reply actions
as far as cuts go the hard question will be
do we keep six dB’s or six wr’s
i think it will be the dB’s that meanas zuriel and randal will both be looking for work
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:35 PM CDT reply actions
Mini camp? your kidding me. Marion can be had cheap,go into the season with a proven guy if someone steps up to play the position then GREAT. Why bitch in Sept cause some rookie is getting his ass beat back there.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
thanks J
I think we have options which makes me comfortable.
thanks for the conversation guys
good night
by LaMonte on Apr 25, 2005 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
How about a true free safety playing free safty.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:40 PM CDT reply actions
no it is not ridiculous, but i see frazier as the go to guy in the slot.
you make a good case, but it seems anyone who has an association with BIll wants to have a place somewhere around him, he just makes an impression on people.
there is nothing wrong with having a veteran presence who knows his role and is committed to helping the young guys get better, it wouldn’t too bad of an idea.
but i think lamonte said it right, nothing will happen ,unless he is out-right released, before bill looks at the young guys in camp.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
Marion has been cut and he still has some ball skill’s.HELL he’s one of the all time cowboy great’s.
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:45 PM CDT reply actions
tell us the truth….
you just want brock so you can say Marion, Marion, over and over and over again.
go plant some roses, marion.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
All u guy’s want to take a corner and turn him into a fs—-NOT THAT EASY
by TheTruth on Apr 25, 2005 11:50 PM CDT reply actions
yeah, you might have to change his number
(see here i am trading you one stupid ass comment for another, but watch as i continue with a real thought, as per what we are looking for here)
of course not every old DB can be a FS, especiaally with the way both our safties our required to tackle. but glenn would have the same type of value richie has now, as a coach. he can impart his knowledge to those bill has found to continue in his place.
know back to the stupid, marion couldn’t tackle then and he sure as hell ain’t learned to since he was gone.
by J on Apr 25, 2005 11:57 PM CDT reply actions
i don’t belive you,
which area of the game would you like for me to shine the truth on for you?
what the hell are YOU doing questioning ME.
i have replied to you point for point and you evade me at every turn.
okay ;et me give you some hints, i actually address what someone has said, if you look back i actually use your words to help you reference back to what the hell you were talking about and yet you go off after someone else and FINALLY when your ball drops far enough for you to address ME, you come with some lame ass shit like oh yeah well where did you play?
you want an answer than prove your self worthy and address the mountain of shit i have piled on top of you
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:07 AM CDT reply actions
It’s also not that easy to make an argument that Marion is one of the all-time greats. I think that’s bit far-fetched. I don’t expect to see his name in the Ring of Honor in my lifetime or any other. I think it’s less far-fetched to turn a veteran CB who has lost a step into a FS than it is to think one of the top FS is going to fall into our laps. FS is one of the most converted positions in the NFL. Woodson was an LB and the rest of the NFL is littered with FS that couldn’t cut it as a CB or were too small for LB. And, no, I’m not one of those that was constantly saying our biggest hole and biggest need in the draft was FS. Personally, I think that saying we should, if they had been available, draft Rolle, Rogers, Jones and make them a FS was crazy. I didn’t even respond to those because I thought they were so ridiculous. If a true FS who is better than anyone that can be converted is found, then I’m all for that, but a proven CB willing to convert and can cover is better than taking a true FS that can’t make the play. We had enough of that last year. So far, I haven’t heard of anyone better rumored to be coming down the waiver wire.
It’s late. I’m off to bed.
by dave on Apr 26, 2005 12:11 AM CDT reply actions
that’s what i thought Momma had him playing soccer
by TheTruth on Apr 26, 2005 12:14 AM CDT reply actions
aaw yes you are still awake,
okaay here is a clue (Use them wisely you wont get maany)
LAs Cruces
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:16 AM CDT reply actions
what just because you can’t figure where real football is played,
do you even have the slightest guess what school is in las cruces
if so then we can talk football
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:24 AM CDT reply actions
if not, well then you are to stupid to waste aany more of my time on.
stop wasting my oxygen and give up breathing
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:25 AM CDT reply actions
I’m just telling you,I played SS from pee wee to a 3 year starter at Western Maryland.There’s a big difference from corner to saftey.If u could make the switch that easy then alot of team’s would do it because of the cover skill’s
There’s only maybe a couple corner’s who could switch Ty Law maybe Charles Woodsen. Rod Woodsen made the switch a couple year’s ago and William’s who played for the Ram’s.Ronnie Lott but he was not a very good corner.
Trust me it’s a big difference.
by TheTruth on Apr 26, 2005 12:36 AM CDT reply actions
because you have established just so much credability so far.
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:37 AM CDT reply actions
J
“whatever” was not about Glenn, sorry. It was in response to the lack of anything worthwhile The Truth has to say. He’s instigative, just ignore him and maybe he’ll go away.
With regard to Glenn, he was basically Shawn Springs statistically. I’m not very familiar with his situation or play in any sort of tangible way. I know he had 63 combined tackles in 16 games which is pretty good for him but fairly mediocre otherwise. His 5 Ints were about the top of his game. Plus, he’s a corner and switching to FS for him may be within reason, but…I dunno. Is it advisable? Marion was a more productive tackler from the safety position with 88 combined and 3 Ints, both about his average.
I think both guys would have the desirable leadership quality. It’s also about the money each would command.
While Marion have an edge at the position, Parcells knows Glenn and we all know how that tune goes.
I’m not covinced the Cowboys need to spend a lot for the position. I’d prefer they be patient and see what happens with the revamped front seven because being able to create pressure will improve the secondary. Plus the addition of “Berry-o” is intriguing and I wonder what will happen with Keith Davis and Woody Dantzler (I don’t have a great deal of confidence in his conversion to safety, but he’s a gamer) and others—which aren’t as bad as some might think, IMO.
I like Lance Fazier and his response to his trial under fire. He might be more willing than Hunter to make the transition to FS and I’d hate for them to cool his jets after such valuable experience last season. He looked awful at times but I liked his response to the adversity. I don’t hink it should be wasted.
But I just read the Chronicle report—thanks Joe—and if there’s any truth to it, we’ll soon find out what’s up with Aaron Glenn.
by StarStruck on Apr 26, 2005 12:39 AM CDT reply actions
besides, you make the very point it is not the cover skills that come into question with a corner, it is the open field tackling and the new perspective from which new duties have been assigned. it is very difficult and i don’t see glenn making that switch.
i just see giving the young guys a chance to show what they got before we go and blow caash on another relic.
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:42 AM CDT reply actions
sorry star struck i got a little caught up there,
once agaain you come through with a well thought out post.
but i must tell you i am worried about glenn’s size aand commitment to the run
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:45 AM CDT reply actions
something odd about the article,
it mentions the log-jam we haave in the secondary
and for you real fans i want you to start crunching the numbers on the roster, if bill keeps six recievers then that means only nine men in the secondary, so space is valuable and guys who caan play multiple parts will have higher value.
i just don’t see glenn haaving a spot on the roster that doesn’t say “COACH” on it
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:51 AM CDT reply actions
of course i have already mentioned the possibility of keeping ten in the secondary, but of course that means just five recievers on the real roster (johnson, glenn, morgan, copper, aand crayton)
either way glenn will have to show more than just being a pal to bill
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:53 AM CDT reply actions
STAR,
davis seems to have a solid grip on being roy’s backup,
and if the competition is between pete and justin
i wonder if scott and woody (even with his return skills)
even make the team this year
by J on Apr 26, 2005 12:55 AM CDT reply actions
yes when the whole world reads what has transpired here,
that is exactly what everyone will say,
that I am the dumb one, no not you the complete moron who ignored every jab and slur at every turn. hpw can you still sit there and not short out your keyboard with the tears of shame and ignorance roaring from your beedy little yankee eyes.
by J on Apr 26, 2005 1:00 AM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
i must apologize for the waste of time and spave i have caused over your site.
i must say i was most upset with this person unwarranted attaack against lamonte,
none the less it should haave never degraded to such a degree.
i have said once and i will say again i value this open forum more than any other and please forgive any disrespect.
by J on Apr 26, 2005 1:18 AM CDT reply actions
Hey J
thanks for being there.
We might just have ourselves a football team this year.
Rafael
thanks for having this page. Best sight to talk cowboys I’ve found.
Keep up the good work
by LaMonte on Apr 26, 2005 4:29 AM CDT reply actions
Speaking of kickers, I would love to see the Boys bring in Matt Payne of BYU. He is a great punter/kicker/kickoff guy, and he loves to hit. He made several highlight reals by demolishing 2 guys on kickoffs in the Boise State game. He also held the NCAA record for most field goals in a row of greater than 40 yards.
by BlueCheese on Apr 26, 2005 8:11 AM CDT reply actions
before the draft i was hoping we would get merrimen or ware.leaning towards the 1st merrimen.but after hearing him and seeing what miller did and a few clips of others ol who were picked did to him,lol.not just block him out but drove him 5yrds back and planted him in the ground.lol.can you imagine the allen pulling around or dan the man campbell(best blocking te in nfl) hits his ass.if he thought miller cracked him.piss campbell off and he might not make it through the game.lol.
by michael on Apr 26, 2005 10:22 AM CDT reply actions
if there is a spot on the team of the Dallas Cowboys that has not been in issue………..virtually ever……….it is the K and the P…….
where have we gotten the last dozen kickers and punters?
Walk on FAs…….
quit with the draft pick for kickers.
The Jets made a move for Nugent because the team would have roasted their kicker and the whole team felt betrayed. When I played football coach told me if you rely on a K to win the game………you already LOST. Football is decided at the line of scrimmage…….and on the individual battles at the skill positions. We just got a MAJOR upgrade of our D LIne…….added another O Line guy and another RB to the stable behind JJ. Would you trade any of the current guys we picked for a K or a P? If so that is what you are willing to give up NEXT YEAR……..when who knows what we may need?
by Jon on Apr 26, 2005 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
I didn’t say draft Payne, I suggested bringing him in as a fa, just as you suggested. He wasn’t drafted.
by BlueCheese on Apr 26, 2005 12:10 PM CDT reply actions
Mr Truth……regardless of how much or where you played your ball………the simple fact remains that one heck of a football coach in Jimmy Johson drafted a TON of CBs…….and other than Darren Woodson a Converted LB…….with Corner Speed a 4.4 40 tops Antrel Rolle………kept putting Corners back their to play DB……..til he found some that worked………..why………because the Corner is usally a more athletic and speedy guy………Jimmy loved speed…..the game from the College at any level to the pros is a large separation of SPEED as well as the work ethic…….of these guys…….
Nothing wrong with a great FS if there is one. But I did not see 7 FS going in the draft in the first round……….or in the 2nd……….or in the 3rd………some of these guys are going to be CB, Nickel and FS……..in the NFL………..
Deion would have sucked at FS cuz he was not much of a tackler, he tackled ok……but preferred the play on the ball. However depending on the defesne employed might have played the field more and had twice as many picks as he did……..that is the benefit of an FS that can motor, and cover and break on the ball……..he can read the QB and MAKE PLAYS. There are lots of corners that would not transfer well………Pac Man might not have the size to make 60+ tackles in run support as an FS………but Antrel Rolle? Come on that guy could play any spot in the Secondary……..including SS……..not everybody has a practical linebacker at SS like we do……not that i am complaining……..
a good cover guy with good speed that can tackle………regardless of title Corner, Free Safety, Defensive Back…….who cares what you call the guy……..line em up back their and let him make plays……….that to me is an FS
by Jon on Apr 26, 2005 2:59 PM CDT reply actions

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