Supplemental Blunders: How Jimmy Almost Blew a Dynasty
The '05 Supplemental Draft is coming up next week. In an explanatory and commemorative piece, Will Parchman of the Cowboy Roundup argues that Dallas' selection of Steve Walsh in the '89 supplemental draft unwittingly paved the way for the Cowboys' mini-dynasty of the early '90s.
For those unfamiliar with the mechanics of the supplemental draft, the NFL allows players who have lost their college eligibility to enter the NFL after the April draft but before training camp starts. In effect, the supplemental is the NFL's version of Christmas in July; any team can select a player now, but forfeits that pick in next April's lottery.
In '89, Dallas had just completed Jimmy Johnson's first draft, selecting Troy Aikman with the top overall pick. When U. of Miami QB Steve Walsh declared for the supplemental draft, interest in him was high, as he had produced a stellar record in the Hurricanes' pro offense. Despite having Aikman in house, the lure of Johnson's former college QB was too strong and Dallas added Walsh to their collection. (The draft order in the supplemental draft is identical to the order that April.)
Walsh battled Aikman for a year and a half, before losing the duel and being dealt to New Orleans during the '90 season. How did his brief career elevate J.J.'s Cowboys into the NFL pantheon, especially when its 1-15 '89 record would have given Dallas the top pick in '90 had it not selected Walsh?
Parchman sees it as one of those happy accidents of history; the top two picks in the '90 draft were QB Jeff George, selected by the Colts, and Penn State RB Blair Thomas, who went to the Jets. Had Dallas passed on Walsh and kept the top pick, he reasons, they might well have taken Thomas and missed out on Emmitt Smith, whom the Cowboys traded up to select at pick 17.
I believe taking Walsh was one of the biggest mistakes Johnson ever made, one that almost undid his team in its formative stages. Right after the '90 draft, Jimmy was asked who he would have taken with the top pick had he still owned it. He mentioned that the player at the top of Dallas' board was Junior Seau, and that he probably would have been the guy. Back then I was a regular reader of The National, the short-lived, national, sports-only newspaper. Their coverage of the '90 draft was written by Chris Mortensen, who was actually earning his money digging up solid information. He does so occasionally on ESPN, but they've really muzzled him, giving more air time to John Clayton, who is not half as good as Mort was in his prime.
But I'm digressing. Mort was writing in the days before the draft that Jimmy was desperately trying to trade up from the 21st pick for a shot at DT Cortez Kennedy, whom he had coached at Miami. Kennedy was taken third overall by Seattle. Seau went to San Diego with pick five.
This is the damage of using the supplemental pick on Steve Walsh. Had it passed on Walsh and placed more faith in Aikman, Dallas likely would have walked out of day one with Seau AND Emmitt, or Kennedy AND Emmitt. (And this is before we consider the friction Walsh's selection created between Aikman and Johnson.)
But wait, as the old Ginsu knife ads used to say, there's more. After the '90 draft, Syracuse WR Rob Moore came out early, as Walsh had the year before. The draft order for the supplemental was the same as it had been that April, which means Dallas got first crack at him. Being gun shy after the Walsh fiasco, Jimmy passed on Moore and the Jets took him with pick two. The Dallas Morning News reported then that the Patriots offered their #1 in 91 and another high pick to Dallas if the Cowboys would select Moore and swap him to New England. Jimmy considered it but passed.
Let's go back in the wayback machine and play what if:
IF Dallas had passed on Walsh, it could have gotten in the spring of '90: Seau/Kennedy, Emmitt AND either Rob Moore or N.E.'s pick, which turned out to be the #1 overall in '91. Dallas traded up to get it anyway, and took Russell Maryland, but again, if Dallas had passed on Walsh and picked Moore, it could have had the #1 pick three years in a row, and had three #1s in first round of '91 (#1, #12 and #13 overall, instead of the #1 and #12 the team used on Maryland and Alvin Harper).
In short, Walsh cost Dallas a sure chance at at least one and possibly two Pro Bowl players. Seau is a lock for Canton. Kennedy was a multiple Pro Bowler for Seattle, until knee injuries short-circuited his career. Imagine how much better the Cowboys would have been with either of these defensive studs in the lineup? The team might have added another Lombardi trophy to the collection.
Jimmy's shrewd drafting eye diminished the damage, but selecting Walsh was a mistake, any way you slice it. A big mistake. He is a reminder of how fragile a winning team can be, and how much luck factors into the creation of a champion. Dallas has been sparing in its use of the supplemental draft since Walsh's flameout. His memory will likely keep the Cowboys out of the action again next week.
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Didn’t the Cowboys trade Walsh to New Orleans for a 1st round draft pick? If so, who did we select with that trade?
By the way, great article, I am just curious who we ultimately received for the trade.
by Cowboy06 on Jul 7, 2005 3:58 AM CDT reply actions
I question whether it would have made any difference. We lost the 94 NFC Champ game basically because we were sloppy and overconfident going in- both could be blamed on Switzer, or just the natural result of winning two in a row. 96 Loss to Carolina was mostly because the wheels were starting to come off, and we needed a top coach to compensate and we did not have him. After that it did not matter. If we had both Kennedy and Seau it would not have mattered THAT much. We had very good D lineman play and one more top LB would not have mattered that much.
by John on Jul 7, 2005 6:22 AM CDT reply actions
If the Cowboys were really targeting Junior Seau that year, and had no interest in Jeff George or Blair Thomas, they could have traded down to the #3 or #4 slot, taken Seau, and garnered several more draft picks in the process. Who knows what we might have added with them?
John,
I think with Seau and/or Kennedy, the Cowboys might have been able to overcome any problems they had in ‘94. After all, they came very close to catching the 49ers in the NFC Championship game. It is extremely difficult to project beyond that, though. I don’t know that they would have felt the need to sign Deion Sanders in ‘95, had they won it all in ’94; even after Kevin Smith’s injury. That Sanders signing resolidified our defensive backfield and took away the 49ers best defender. Of course, signing Sanders led to our salary-cap problems, which was the real downfall of the Cowboys, post-‘95. We certainly would have had a hard time, after signing Sanders, keeping a Junior Seau on the team. The ’What if’s?’ do get rather confusing as you go forward in time.
Cowboy06,
The Saints not only gave us a first-round pick for Walsh, they also gave us a second- and a third-. Unless my memory fails me, that first-round pick was used to select Russell Maryland. Since the Cowboys still had picks from the Vikings (the Walker trade), plus their own selections, and traded around liberally, it is difficult to assign any of the selections to the Walsh trade, without a detailed review of that draft.
We also took Alvin Harper and Kelvin Prichett in the 1st round that year, Dixon Edwards in the 2nd, Godfrey Miles, James Richards and Erik Williams in the 3rd, Curvin Richards, Bill Musgrave, Tony Hill and Kevin Harris in the 4th, Darrick Brownlow in the 5th, Mike Sullivan in the 6th, Leon Lett in the 7th, Damon Mays in the 9th, Sean Love in the 10th, Tony Boles in the 11th, and Larry Brown in the 12th.
The Cowboys certainly picked the Saints’ pocket on that one.
So, even though I agree with the premise of this thread that Johnson actually made a monumental blunder by taking Walsh with that supplemental pick, and is one of the dumbest things Johnson ever did, he (and the Cowboys) did come out of it quite well.
One further point. Not only were we extremely fortunate to find a sucker to take Walsh off our hands, we were equally fortunate that Johnson did not trade Aikman away instead of Walsh. Randy Galloway, among others, has reported that only the direct intervention of Jerry Jones kept Johnson from trading Aikman.
by Mr. Bill on Jul 7, 2005 8:41 AM CDT reply actions
Cowboy06,
It’s amazing that Johnson would have traded Aikman if not for Jerry Jones. I had never heard that. The consequences of such a move are impossible to quantify.
by Chris on Jul 7, 2005 9:54 AM CDT reply actions
This is more about the upcoming Supp draft than it is about the past:
Can you get some good information on the players who will be eligable? How do they rate with the players of the draft? In what round would they be worth taking?
by Kevin on Jul 7, 2005 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
We had very good D linemen in 1994; Kennedy would not have been that much of an upgrade. Seau- yes – BUT how much of a difference would that have made- REALLY? We were not mentally ready for that game; and by the time we woke up it was almost too late. Of course the NON call on Sanders doomed us at the end- but we dug the hole ourselves. It was turnovers that put us in the hole- and I really cannot see that those two extra players would have kept us out of the 21-0 deficit.
by John on Jul 7, 2005 11:00 AM CDT reply actions
off subject tis story is from skip bayless, about a run in with mark tuneai
One night after a Cowboys playoff game in Detroit, I hitched a ride home on the team’s charter flight. Some editors frowned on this because it was a subtle way for a team to buy a columnist’s objectivity by providing free airfare. But as any player or coach from the Jerry Jones era will tell you, my objectivity was not for sale.
I just wanted to get home faster.
And in this case, I was risking my life. Oh, the plane was as safe as planes can be. But I sat in the front of a coach section filled to the back with angry football players drinking alcohol. That’s a dangerous mix.
The Lions had just taught Jimmy Johnson’s young Cowboys a 38-6 lesson, and the silence behind me was deafening.
But about halfway through the flight, a player commandeered the PA system and said, “Skip Bayless, you are wanted at the back of the plane.”
Media members seated around me gave me “uh oh” glances. One of them said, “Just ignore it.” No, I said, I can’t back down.
I inhaled and exhaled deeply and started walking up the aisle as if I could whip anyone on the plane. I was scared to death.
Waiting for me by the lavatory door was the scariest man on that team, left tackle Mark Tuinei (who’s since passed away). Left guard Nate Newton, who weighed about 350 pounds, had told me Tuinei was the one Cowboy he couldn’t beat in a fight to the death. And now Tuinei was literally breathing fire on me — I could smell the alcohol on his breath as he positioned me against the bathroom door.
“Why have you been so hard on Troy?” Tuinei asked.
Troy Aikman
Scary things can happen when you pick on Troy Aikman.
Ah, now I got it. Tuinei in effect was serving as quarterback Troy Aikman’s bodyguard.
Aikman’s sprained knee had given backup Steve Beuerlein a chance to play, and the team had taken off. Not only had the Cowboys stunned the Eagles in Philadelphia to make the playoffs, but in the first round they had knocked off Mike Ditka’s Bears at Soldier Field.
I knew Johnson still wasn’t sold on Aikman, and the team obviously had responded to Beuerlein’s moxie and leadership. As Jones would say after the Cowboys broke through the following season and won the Super Bowl with Aikman: “Jimmy was as surprised as anyone about Troy’s success.”
But Beuerlein had struggled that day in Detroit, and Aikman hadn’t been much better in relief. Still, Aikman obviously was steamed that I had led the cheers for Beuerlein, and now Aikman eased up behind Tuinei to listen to the interrogation.
I calmly tried to explain to “Too-ey,” as he was called, why I had written nice things about Beuerlein. But Tuinei wasn’t interested in polite logic. He obviously just wanted to intimidate me, or worse.
He began to shove me against the bathroom door with explosive little open-handed shots to the shoulders, as if he were pass blocking a defensive end. I wasn’t hurt, just a little shook up. But I was too scared to be scared, if that makes sense.
Now several other players gathered in the aisle to watch the show — or maybe they just needed to use the bathroom and were afraid to ask Tuinei’s permission. Even if one of them had thought Tuinei was going too far, I doubted that any player would have the guts to say so.
This time I didn’t raise my voice or get angry. I wasn’t afraid of Frank Thomas, but this was a whole new ball game.
Through a maniacal grin, Tuinei said: “How would you like it [shove] if somebody [shove] wrote bad stuff about you [shove]?”
Suddenly, the players in the aisle parted and Jimmy Johnson came rolling through like Emmitt Smith on third and short.
“What are you doing back here?” he asked me with a knowing smile.
I just shrugged.
“I think you need to get back to your seat,” he said. “Same for all the rest of you.”
Fortunately for me, there was one man who scared Mark Tuinei.
Skip Bayless can be seen Monday through Friday on “Cold Pizza,” ESPN2’s morning show, and at 4 p.m. ET on ESPN’s “1st & 10.” His column appears twice weekly on Page 2. You can e-mail Skip here.
by mike on Jul 7, 2005 11:03 AM CDT reply actions
Cowboys06,
The Saints pick was #13 overall in ’91. It was used as a bargaining chip, along
with other high picks, to move up to #1 and take Russell Maryland.
Dallas did get some value in trading Walsh. But it did not equal the value
they would have gotten from having the top pick in ’90.
Mr. Bill,
It is possible that Dallas might have been able to trade down just a couple of
spots and still have gotten Seau or Kennedy. Jeff George was the prize that year
and there were a lot of crazy offers being proposed for him.
John,
It’s wild speculation at best, but Kennedy was much better then either Casillas or Maryland. Only Leon Lett could approach his game. In the ‘94 title game, Kenny Norton had switched sides. You think it would not have made a difference to have Seau playing in the pivot over Robert Jones? And what about ’96? You think Dallas might have been able to weather the loss of Lett to drug suspension had somebody like Kennedy been on the squad? Leon’s suspension killed the pass rush, and took any chance of a decent playoff run with him. That idiot was in the running for NFL defensive player of the year and blew it all.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 7, 2005 11:10 AM CDT reply actions
Mike,
Are you Skip Bayless? The story is what it is, but don’t adversite shows in the threads. If Skippy wants ad space on this blog he can buy some.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 7, 2005 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
Good call on mike…..he may well be skippy ColdPizza is so bad
espn2 will try anything to improve ratings.They recently axed
most of the staff but kept Jay crawford… the most annoying
person on TV and perhaps least knowledgable sports host ever,
along with woody and skip .For some hilarious reviews of this
train wreck check out" jump the shark" dot com
by becker on Jul 7, 2005 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
Mike,
Go watch “Cold Pizza”, its on now!!
And ….. oh by the way …. who cares about Skip Bayless??
by Eric Richard on Jul 7, 2005 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
becker and Eric,
Surely you’re heard that back in ‘96, when Skip put out his book “Hell Bent,” the so called chronicle of the ’95 season, he “had to” include a sub-chapter speculating on whether Troy was gay. He didn’t want to, but “the rumors keep popping up, so I had to write about them,” or some nonsense to that effect.
Anyway, I understand Troy asked his lawyers if he would be able to settle for $1 million out of court if he went up to Skip and punched his lights out. When his lawyers told him it would probably cost a few million he dropped the idea. Still, when a guy is willing to kiss a cool million away to settle a score against you, you’re doing something wrong.
I always felt that it would be great PR to put it on pay per view and have the fans raise the remaining $2-3 M with their orders. I know I would have shelled out a couple of fins to see old Skippy get his comeuppance.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 7, 2005 3:57 PM CDT reply actions
Beurlein was great in relief and a football team, like a baseball team sometimes needs a reliever.
However, Troy had his worst season on his back with the Cowboys unable to block anybody. Once that improved so did Troy Aikman. I seriously doubt Johnson was so surprised by Aikman……..he knew a team needs a couple good QBs. I mean history proves the 2nd guy sometimes carries you too the promised land. Ask Moses and Aaron…….anyway……….Tom Brady and Jeff Hostetler are TWO great examples of Super Bowl victorious QBs that started out 2nd fiddle. In Jeff’s case he left and never duplicated the success he had in NY and Phil was back at the helm of a pretty good Giants team……..SEE EMMIT SMITH GAME OF FAME.
I think Johnson was smart enough to know that he needed 2 QBs to make a championship team. He was also smart enough to realize Walsh was better traded then kept……….maybe Steve Spurrier should have taken better notes. We can play monday morning QB on the last decade or three til we are blue in the face……..I mean there is a dropped pass in the end Zone…….do we beat the Steelers if it is caught? It was only the 3rd Quarter? Who knows.
We put a lot of talent on the team. We controlled both lines of scrimmage and we had the best running back in the game. A great QB, a HOF WR, a wonderful TE, and some darn good support at FB, WR and what should be a HOF Offensive Line. An unbelieveable rotation of Defensive Lineman that included some Landry Leftovers, and FA or two, and some good picks by Johnson. We also got DEION more on Troy Aikman convinced he did not want to throw in his direction against SF. It was more to weaken their DEFENSE, as much as it strengthened ours. Sure for a few games Deion was Deion, I remember a few picks and some TDs………and I also remember his best days were in Atlanta. Not Dallas or SF. I think Jimmy would not have let Dallas become slack that season. However, it is possible the players would not have responded as well that third year anyway. Aikman and Irvin and Emmit and some key players on D were the reason we won the third. Certainly not Barry Switzer.
Wished Jerry had brought in Bill Parcells in 96 instead of Gailey.
by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
I’d still like to find that great story — I wanna say it is one of the Star-Telegram writers, Reeves or Dent, who wrote a book and tells it — about Jimmy’s finally making up with Troy for the whole Walsh debacle at the start of the 91 season. Troy was apparently very angry still, not only about the Walsh but about all of Jimmy’s mind games. Troy’s one of these guys whose just not built to put up with that kind of stuff — he’ll be harder on himself than anyone else and work his butt off, but you have to treat him with respect, not hazing. So, anyway, it’s the party after the last pre-season game and Troy just wants to leave but he can’t find his gym bag. He’s looking everywhere and there’s a rumor that Jimmy hid it. So Troy gets even hotter and goes to confront Jimmy – “where the hell’d you put my stuff!” kind of approach. Jimmy acts completely innocent and tells Troy, hey I don’t know, but why don’t you sit down and have a beer with me. And Troy keeps saying, just give me my stuff and I’ll go. But finally Jimmy convinces him he doesn’t have the bag and to chill. They have a serious heart-to-heart where Jimmy finally asks Troy what he wants and needs to be qb for Dallas (NOT Jerry Rhome and David Shula for one thing, was probably part of the answer). Anyway, the story goes that they end up discovering that they both love tropical fish and they get into a long talk about aquariums and fish and they bond. The rest is history.
Some of you may be able to correct the details if you’ve heard it.
Last but not least, as for the way-back machine … I agree that we weren’t as well prepared mentally for that game as the Niners, but I also think that the critical loss that year was Erik Williams — his car crash killed our dynasty, I believe, and for that 94 championship game, Emmitt’s hamstring injury and Larry Allen playing on one foot, didn’t help. gg
p.s. Skip is the biggest self-promoting, quasi-intellectual, yellow journalist in sports. Did I mention he’s a pussy, too? Can I say that on the site? Site police?
by GG on Jul 7, 2005 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
BTW…….tell Troy to hire Nate or Tui to do his dirty work for him. Sounds like maybe he did. I mean Big Nate eventually went to prison anyway……….why not a few mor months of Parole for smacking around Skippy or any of the other Mediots. Imagine the press in the days of the Roman Gladiator……..so Gladiator the rumors are you are gay?
Sound of a sword swinging………no more press coverage for this event offered. Reporters who asked stupid questions and wrote ridiculous articles……….wound up being fed to the Lions.
by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Jon,
It’s slow, isn’t it? Ready for camp? I was ready about
two weeks ago.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 7, 2005 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Oh, I forgot the punchline to the Jimmy story. Duh. Turns out at the end of the long conversation with Troy, Jimmy tells him where his stuff is. He’d hidden it after all — just to get Troy to stay.
by GG on Jul 7, 2005 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
Wow, Seau and Kennedy with the ’Boys! That would have been awesome, and would have helped us beat the ’Niners in ’94!
Seriously, jimmy’s departure is what did us in. Barry Switzer……. Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by onepaniolo on Jul 7, 2005 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
I would much prefer that Skip Bayless stay as far away from this blog as possible. There are very few people that I truly detest. Skip is one of them. I probably could have let his treatment of Aikman slip by, but not his treatment of Tom Landry. When Landry died, there were hundreds of articles written in his praise. There was only one, that I saw, which was at all critical — the hatchet piece written by Skip Bayless. He couldn’t even allow Landry’s death to mitigate his attacks on Landry. No pause or moratorium. No. To him, it was just an excuse to write another rip job.
I’m not quite certain to which circle of hell I would consign Skip Bayless. I’ll have to reread my Dante to pin it down.
by Mr. Bill on Jul 7, 2005 8:52 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael……
HECH YEAH…….it is SLOW. I been vacationing myself so it helps. Nothing on any of the sites that fill my interest for Cowboys info and excitment for the season. Great PICK UP ON KC. I plan on ordering the book myself. Nice interview look forward to his take on Witten and the Boys. I really did like his technical analysis and the way he breaks a guy and his talent down.
Also to our Skippy fan up there. That is probably some kind of COPYRIGHT violation and he is probably subject to be sued by Skippy without Skippy even consulting his lawyers before he sues him. But you might get Troy to help bail you out if you jab Skippy with a Tyson uppercut.
I actually like Bryan Cox the best of anybody on air and listen to him regularly on FOX sports radio with my XM. He is great. Lots of insight on Parcells. He does not sugarcoat anything……too bad they replaced him with Rodney Pete on Best Damn……..he was the man.
Well I am off to PA for weekend at Wally World………oops Hershey park……..hope I don’t see any Philly fans up there.
Ya’ll have a great and safe weekend.
Also on the Seau note, we had a pretty good linebacker in Norton, Jr. and he left to free agency(to SF of all places) so even if we had Kennedy and Seau there is nothing to say we would have kept them……….remember how our Defensive line was getting offers……….oh and by the way………welcome to that great problem Belichek……..and good luck with Seymour!!!! Looking back that first year we won the Super Bowl nobody on that team or in the media(except Terry Bradshaw of all people liked us) knew how good we were. It all came together a little earlier than most expected and we got better each game and refused to lose in the playoffs. Here is to hoping this current team with a few Leftovers, a few Parcells FAs, and some good looking youth and rookies……….can accomplish the same thing.
How bout dem Cowboys!!!!!
by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
my bad thought it was a funny story, thanx for the crack backs…
by mike on Jul 8, 2005 10:16 AM CDT reply actions
cowboys worked out damien robinson yesterday, what do you think on him?
by mike on Jul 8, 2005 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
didnt mean to put the advertisement in there i apologize for that rafeal, just now noticed it.
by mike on Jul 8, 2005 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t think you can overlook the role of Jerry after Jimmy left.
By micro managing the Cowboys i think Jerry played a huge role
in the Dallas decline.He chose coaches who were nothing but
figureheads which in turn led to the lack of discipline.None of
the coaches who came after jimmy J. ever had a chance it
was jerrys team period.
I never thought Dallas lacked talent they had more than enough
talent but a lack off discipline and too many off field problems
derailed them.Its a shame because they could have been the
best team to ever play the game.
by becker on Jul 8, 2005 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
Mike,
I didn’t think it was on purpose. I though it was a good point for everyone to read. I’ve started to notice a few posts with links in them. Not cool.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 8, 2005 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
Lets wake up people, the Cowboys dynasty ending isn’t just to do with Steve Walsh. The drafting was great far from perfect but nonetheless great, Johnson had a way to find talent. While I think that Johnson was prbably the best NFL coach ever, a god NO! The Walker trade and Haley deals were Jerry! Nobody in this talk even mentions Haley, if not for him NO superbowls, period! The biggest key with a dynasty is to stay a dynasty. Think about it when Haley’s back got the better of him, don’t just replace him, get someone to BE him. Free agency was what killed the boys, why not have fed us too? As an example what if when Haley retired we had traded for Reggie White or some other upper quality player. But no, when Haley’s back was been really bothering him rather then look for a new DE, we opt for a CB in Deion Sanders. Now am I the only one that thought about this? I’m not even a rocket scientist. Do I think that Deion was great, well he was really good and cocky and all but the greatest of QB’s chose to stay away from him. The reason for the fall of the boys was simple, not replacing the talent, and when they got Deion they overpaid so dearly for him that no cap was left for anybody else. When a player retired or left via free agency, so much money had been paid to Deion that it was virtually impossible to get anybody worth having for the cap room that was left available. Another thing, as far as the gay thing with Aikman, when people are jealous it starts, he had it all at the time, just no wife…. I didn’t marry until I was 22, did that mean? Trust me no. And if Lorie Morgan was being gay, maybe I did need some of that. Getting back to the subject at hand, the dynasty was misuse of the cap, unfortunately it still is. We’ll get it back one day, but let’s not wait……
by Alan on Jul 8, 2005 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
Mr. Bill,
No argument from me. There are two clear things I remember about Skip, from my days at TheBoys.com in the ’90s. I was living in Madison, Wisconsin at the time and writing game previews and reviews off game tapes. They paid me fairly, but I always wondered how cool it would be to have press credentials and how much I might be missing not being near Valley Ranch.
At the time, I was a subscriber to “The Insider,” an online newsletter that Skip and Mickey Spagnola started when the Times Herald was shot out from under them. About three games into the season, I noticed something about Skip’s stories; they kept referencing things I saw on TV. When I went back and re-read them, it was clear that old Skippy wasn’t any closer to the locker room that I was. (Press credentials revoked?) Then, I didn’t feel bad at all about living in the belly of Cheeseland.
The second and truly damning point about Skip came during the Michael Irvin investigation fiasco. The day after Nina Shahravan admitted to fabricating her story and signed a police statement to confirm it, Skip wrote an article swearing that he still had “sources” who could put cocaine in Erik Williams apartment and give some credence to the whole rape/guy/crackpipe dark fantasy. The rest of the world moved on, but Skip kept pushing the dead story.
Truly loathsome stuff. The guy pulled the same song and dance when he went to Chicago, once the Metroplex tired of his act. Withing weeks, he was “best friends” with everybody on the Bulls and knew every intimate detail of their dynasty. One problem for Skip: Jordan had retired the year before and there were no more big stories he could ride. They ran him out of the Windy City within a year.
It’s a continual black eye to ESPN that they still employ this fantasist. I doubt he ever sets foot in an arena and his entire existence is based on throwing rocks at icons, be it Troy, Jordan or most recently, Lance Armstrong. As far as I can tell, he leads a Rupert Pupkinesque King of Comedy existence, preaching to cardboard people in his basement. He’s a liar, an ambulance chaser, a grave robber, a racist and a snob, and what he knows about sports wouldn’t fill the margins of a period.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 8, 2005 7:24 PM CDT reply actions
You’re right Rafael. Skippy is the epitome of Mediot! Now that he’s at the San Jose Mercury News, he’ll drive the SF Bay Area fans crazy!
by onepaniolo on Jul 8, 2005 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
Well, at least there’s one good reason for me living in Mexico and being as away as that could be from Football, didn’t knew the guy, Skippy….. Sounds like a real case of the head…..
by Chandus on Jul 8, 2005 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
…… Hey guys getting back to the supplimental draft …. Is there anyone entering the draft worth a look?
by Eric Richard on Jul 9, 2005 1:36 PM CDT reply actions
Manuel Wright, he’s tops in there, he’s a 6-6 and 330 pounder DT, but hasn’t displayed much in College, played behind Shaun Cody and Mike Patterson which were drafted this year in rounds 2 and 1, which means that he was supposed to get the starter job, then getting a lot of extra-work, I guess he looked to start making money, but it just doesn’t speak loud of a work ethic.
Other than him, everyone is a project, like Roscoe Crosby a 6-2 with a 4.5 forty. They are supposedly taking attention with 6th and 7th rounders, while Wright has scouts wondering if he’s worth a 2nd rounder.
by Chandus on Jul 9, 2005 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
More trophies and earlier trophies only would have expedited Jimmy’s beef with Jerry.
And I have to say, as somebody without a team, reading this post was like a hobo (we’ll call him “Dan Pastoronowitz”) looking into the home of a great thanksgiving feast and actually hearing the bratty kids griping about how their mom failed to make pecan pie AND pumpkin pie.
Must you be so cruel?
by Oiler Troll on Jul 10, 2005 2:00 AM CDT reply actions
Troll,
Not so much griping, I don’t think. Just the realization that the Cowboys of the 90s could have won 4 straight. Something that would have put their mark on as THE GREATEST TEAM EVER. … But I guess you’re right things could be worse, like being a Mets fan. Oh, I am a Mets fan.
by Eric Richard on Jul 10, 2005 5:38 AM CDT reply actions
What would be MUCH worse is being a Cubs fan. That is THE team SECOND to NONE at snatching DEFEAT from the jaws of VICTORY.
by Burmafrd on Jul 10, 2005 9:25 AM CDT reply actions
Oiler Troll,
Come on you know it’s much more fun to talk about what might
have been!!
Without Walsh and Steve B. and the competition who knows how
T. Aikman might have turned out???I mean you know how
“tempermental” those gay guys can be!!! LOL
by becker on Jul 10, 2005 10:33 AM CDT reply actions
Becker
Very true. And it is always fun to review the drafts of what could have been.
The book Oiler Blues reads like a yearbook, and the “coulda been” draft review section, year after year, is nothing less than painful. Almost as painful as the list of trades (apparently Charlie Joiner was not good enough and Steve Largent was “too slow”).
Steve Burlein was gay?
by Oiler Troll on Jul 13, 2005 2:53 AM CDT reply actions
Which is worse, having a QB who is single in his mid to late 20s and not a bad looking guy being accused of being gay? Maybe Jerry is the gay one, he is the one that said Troy looked good in the showers. Even though Troy dated a couple of country stars and sent Kerrigan flowers after the Tanya Harding thing……..sounds kinda like a nice guy. Just cuz he was not taking advantage of every piece of tail thrown in his face the press whispers the guy is gay? I mean not everybody kisses and tells or brags in the locker room. Perhaps he should have pulled a Joe Namath and gotten drunk and tried to kiss or fondle some female reporter in the locker room. To prove his manhood to the media………I think Troy was classier than that.
Or another phenomenal young QB that is charged with passing on a veneral disease and using a ridiculous alias like Ron Mexico?
The media sucks. It was a slow news day and somebody that hates the Cowboys as good as they were writes some crap about the All American QB on America’s team. It should have been in the back of weekly world news, national enquirere maybe but instead it is in some major publication by some Eagles SNOB or Redskins writer, or some would be Giant Cowboy Killer…………whatever it was it was crap and I for one am glad Tui and Nate and the boys pushed ole skippy boy around. He is just lucky the coach was Jimmy Johnson and not Bear Bryant………Bryant probably would have asked Skippy to just get off the plane. Never mind that is was at 35,000 feet.
Besides every red blooded male watching tv with his girlfriend when some hollywood hunk is walking around all pretty and muscular has but one defense. Yeah honey, but that guy is GAY! She laughs and says no he isn’t and somehow our own masculinity is less challenged by the fact that some pretty boy in hollywood that our wife or girlfriend finds attractive is somehow not as man as us. It is the oldest ploy in the book, just too bad some idiot in the media tried it on Troy. Next time tell Troy to use this defense.
“Well at least we know Skip Bayless ain’t gay!” Troy says
“How do you know Troy”………..reporter……
“He said he tried IT, and didn’t like it!”
Deal with that Bayless………
by Jon on Jul 13, 2005 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
Oiler Troll,
I feel your pain my man…..I grew up a giants fan until the early 70’s
until i was saved by the Boys……missing out on players is one thing
But how about HOF coaches?Landry.. ok he was a country boy and
wanted to go home that I can see…. but Lombardi??And then to let
that idiot Allie Sherman destroy the team by trading away HOF Sam
Huff or getting rid of HOF don Maynard because he was a “long
strider”!!!! Maynard likes to point out he was the fastest guy on the
team!!!!!! but we all know its about the stride baby.No my friend
the giants have real talent for screwing stuff up…did i forget Bill
and Bill and probably Romeo.Besides when stuff got lousy for
you at least you had those Derrick Dolls….Damm those were
some babes!!And didn’t Pastorini marry a playmate… and he
punted…Troy couldn’t do either…….
Jon,
All kidding aside Skippy is a jerk to say the least.He used the
tactic of going after the biggest name in town to get his career
going(again).Troy always struck as a very private guy who
didn’t seek the spotlight nothing more.
by becker on Jul 13, 2005 8:56 PM CDT reply actions

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