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From Browns camp: "Head coach Romeo Crennel said [Antonio Bryant] has been making catches, running precise routes and doing everything they have asked. He noted Bryant's work ethic and ability also helps, while adding Bryant's consistency has impressed him the most."
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YEAH, and by week four when Bryant isn’t getting the ball thrown to him, then the REAL pouting cry baby wideout will come to the fore front
by Derrick on Aug 4, 2005 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
good for him i hope he turns himself around, wouldnt bother me. he just didnt work here for BP.
by mike on Aug 4, 2005 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
I think letting him go was one of Parcells many failures in his first two years. I like the direction the team is going, but we should have started this year one. I saw nothing but great catches from Bryant, and a patient coach would have made it work. WTH was Parcells thinking trying to start a fight with one of his own players, especially one that made plays. Anyone else remember the diving grab out of bounds against the Giants?
by Cash on Aug 4, 2005 11:51 PM CDT reply actions
I saw something great in Bryant and was dissapointed when he was traded. I sure hope Morgan is worth it.
by mark on Aug 5, 2005 12:15 AM CDT reply actions
Cash:
Last year, I remember the Vikings and Browns in which Testaverde was sending him passes to the place he was supposed of being and guess what? Wasn’t… He has talent, but in Dallas with such good route runners in Glenn (at the moment of the trade he was running) and Keyshawn, there wasn’t room for a guy that wasn’t trusted.
Let’s see if he amends those mistakes, if he can, good for him, I don’t have second thoughts on him.
by Chandus on Aug 5, 2005 12:25 AM CDT reply actions
Hi Everybody!
Who wants to admit that they got snookered in a deal with Parcells?
You will keep hearing how great Bryant is doing.
(it is too bad because that game against the Giants was kind of cool…not that I was rooting for the Cowboys all that much – I had Bryant as a late and necessary pick on that obsessive demented relationship-testing game we all play but is not mentioned here. Parcells made a good move).
by Oiler Troll on Aug 5, 2005 12:52 AM CDT reply actions
Bryant had alot of good catches his rookie season with the boys too. Then his attitude went to crap. his bell got rung when he got traded. if he would have stayed, hed still be acting like an idiot. getting cut was a wake up call for him and probably the only thing that could wake him up. We lost nothing but a headache when we traded him. That he responded well to the wake up call is a tribute to him, but it doesnt change a thing from dallas’ standpoint. The brown and the boys knew this trade would make a point to both players, and if bryant comes areound and morgan doesnt, so be it. He would never have been good for dallas, because it was the trade that forced him to pull his head out of where it was and realize that if he didnt step it up ,he would not last in the nfl. I still say good job parcells. When u insist upon having players who have a little class, play hard, and are “team guys”, you will have to release some talented guys. But if u stick to ur guns, it wiil pay big in the end.
by ericp on Aug 5, 2005 1:01 AM CDT reply actions
Rafael, would it still be an option to send a donation on , say, the 16th of aug. or has that ship sailed. By the way, thanks for this website. The perspective of a bunch of die hard boys fans is such an asset. I read evey day and would love to help the cause. i was just too broke when you started asking. I have a question. although i come from a family of boys fans and have been a fan since before i can remember,this is the 1st year ive watched the off season so closely(too damn close if u ask my wife). My question is this. Is the feedback from the coach, owners, and cowboys reporters always so positive? It seems that blesowe is looking great like he wants to show the world what hes got. The depth is fantastic. And all of the glaring questions ( ie… right gaurd, full safety, etc…) are getting answered very quickly. Is it really going that well in calif. or is this just the way they do. I mean do they always try and put a positive slant, or is it really that positive this year? also, how many hb’s can a team keep on the roster?
by ericp on Aug 5, 2005 1:43 AM CDT reply actions
As I have said before, I don’t neccessarily disagree with getting rid of Bryant. I only would have liked to see us get more compensation for him than we did. A 3rd rounder would have been nice. Or a lower round pick AND Morgan. So far Morgan does not impress me. Hope he proves me wrong. As for the assertions that BP “picked” a fight with AB (i.e. head games), I have said what I’ve said on that matter. Those that got it have gotten it, those that didn’t won’t.
by James on Aug 5, 2005 1:45 AM CDT reply actions
i agree that it would have been nice to get something for him. and in terms of pure talent, hes got more to offer than morgan, but i dont think anyone would have given us squat for him. he showed potential, but was never consistent. he wouldnt have gotten us a 3rd. maybe a 5th. at best a 4th. and morgan is worth a 4th. the jury is still out on morgan too. when things click, they click all around. when they go bad, they go bad all around. he might step up this year. also, bryant might not do too well himself. a couple of good practices doesnt neccesarilly mean much. wait til the 1st time someone pisses him off, or he gets a little compfortable in cleveland. remember, he started out good in dallas too. james, i hadnt heard that parcells picked a fight w/bryant. what was ur opinion of it? i guess i didnt read the blog that day.
by ericp on Aug 5, 2005 2:45 AM CDT reply actions
ericp:
You can send a donation whenever you can. There are still other expenses that we will incur at Oxnard so whatever we can get to offset out-of-pocket would be great.
by Raul Villaronga on Aug 5, 2005 5:46 AM CDT reply actions
EricP,
On this thread, 3rd post from the top. I had not heard of this either, which is why I put quotation marks around the word “picked” in my post. Let’s face it, with all the headgames BP DOES play, he may have been trying to motivate AB and it either backfired or AB couldn’t deal with it. Cash will have to tell us his source so we can read for ourselves (hopefully the story is archived).
by James on Aug 5, 2005 7:28 AM CDT reply actions
When the story of Parcells and Bryant came out, it was stated that on more than one occasson that Parcells told Bryant, he still had one last fight in him and that Bryant had better not let it be him. Call it motivation if you want, but the fact is he read the kid the wrong way, as a result offended him instead of motivating him, and ended up driving him away. For all the things that are good about Parcells, I personally don’t like his attitude. Bellicheck and Vermeil, bot good coaches in their own right are able to be horses asses on the field without always projecting a glass half empty attitude to the players and the fans.
We gave up in Bryant a fine young WR that made many many nice plays when he was give the opportunity. To piss that away because the kid is upset for not starting, for a WR who wear concrete gloves to work is stupid. In my eyes it was nothing more than Parcells being lazy. And I think its apparent by his actions since the end of last year that he felt too, that he had been lazy the first two years.
The commitment we now see out of Parcells is far more sincere than what we got out of him the first two seasons. So save the excuses and the “ya buts”, we got cheated the first two seasons and now we have the real deal, I hope.
by Cash on Aug 5, 2005 9:31 AM CDT reply actions
Oh so its Parcells fault again? .. Look Bryant was a “problem waiting to happen” on draft day, so I guess Parcells influenced that too. His off-the-field issues is why the WR with 1st round talent fell to Dallas in round 2. Parcells gives these guys chances .. and they fail themselves, and their teammates. Carter, Bryant, Blade, and Ross … how many times before and after have these players been cut or labeled a “poison” on their teams? They haven’t worked out anywhere else .. and haven’t worked out here? .. But that is Parcells fault? Get real!!
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
Eric,
you have hit it right on the head. Bill, said it himself, I dont have anymore time for thugs and hoodlums and you just mentioned a few of those cancers that were finally removed. He wants smart Character guys, not smartass guys that are characters.
by Derrick on Aug 5, 2005 10:07 AM CDT reply actions
Keep in mind that Eric R, is a fluffer for the Cowboys. And has no ability to be honest about the team. In his eyes everything is wonderful, all the players are pro bowlers. I guess if you are happy with 6-10 then you are in heaven. I want to be the damn Eagles and it wasn’t going to happen if Parcells continued the same way he did the first two years.
by Cash on Aug 5, 2005 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
Lets be real here our WR crop is a weak spot. That can change if some one step up like morgan or one of the second year players. Next year they will draft a WR or two. As far as Bryant he will go as far as he wants to because he has the talent to do so. I was mad when he was traded because he is young and his upside is far more than morgan.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
The problem with this team and always been the problem with this team is Jerry Jones and his inability to draft players, period. The draft picks since Jimmy left have been terrible. The core of this team should be from the drafts from 97-01, and how many do we have, Adams and Dat, thats dismal. What was bill suppose to do with no groceries to bake with. When bill leaves, we will have a nucleus of good up coming players and I hope Jerry clues in and Brings in a FOOTBALL GUY AS A GM.
by Derrick on Aug 5, 2005 10:43 AM CDT reply actions
IF A PLAYER IS A CANCER, I DONT CARE WHAT HIS TALENT IS, GET RID OF HIM.
by Derrick on Aug 5, 2005 10:45 AM CDT reply actions
Part of drafting is developing the talent you draft and I think we have done a poorer job of developing the young players than drafting them. Do get me wrong our drafts have been poor too. Plus we try to cut the corners too much with key spots such as QB, FS, CB before this year, WR and RT. My biggest problem is the QB. That is the last position we should try to just get by with.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 11:08 AM CDT reply actions
Hey, Cash.
I agree with you, man. Parcells definitely handled Bryant the wrong way. Not everybody’s gonna respond positively to the Parcells’ “Fats Domino” style of motivation. The real genius in a football coach, or teacher for that matter, is to figure out which motivation technique is gonna work for which type of player.
I guess in that respect, Parcells was being “lazy” with Bryant in that he should have pulled the guy aside and actually (God forbid) TALKED with him, instead of giving him the whole “my way or the highway” routine. That just doesn’t WORK with everybody, especially a kid like Antonio.
And, yes, everybody, that’s what he was- a KID. A kid with enough talent to play the WR spot as good as anybody we’ve had on this team in a long time.
A kid like Bryant needs to feel wanted and respected and valued. He needed to feel secure in Dallas, like it was his HOME. I don’t think Parcells understood that.
When Dallas brought in Keshawn and annointed him the savior of the Dallas offense, Bill should have taken Antonio under his wing; That’s what the kid needed. I’m telling you guys: If you take care of these kids and nurture them, they’ll do great things for your team AND improve themselves as people. The best coaches in this country understand that; Parcells ain’t one of ’em.
ANY good coach can lead kids with character and talent; GREAT coaches can BUILD character in players and maximize their talent- maybe not every player but at least ONE, and Bryant surely had the talent to warrant such attention. But Parcell’s doesn’t have the time? Great. What was he gonna do next? Call the kid “SHE” on national television? He can do better than that….
Dallas isn’t in a position to blow off good TALENT because it’s players don’t respond to the ONLY way Coach “motivates” his players. No team in the NFL has that luxury.
Bryant is a gifted athelete. Now, if he can evolve as a football player AND a man, he’s gonna be unstopable. Hopefully he gets the attention and guidance he deserves now that he’s somewhere else. A great coach and mentor will know how to get the best out of him.
Funny how everybody gets defensive about the Bryant trade and how fans are so quick to defend Parcells’ decisions. know what?
PARCELLS AIN’T FLAWLESS GUYS. He makes mistakes, just like the one he made trading one of our BEST WR talents away for… I forget the guy’s name….
You watch how we take use a high draft pick to land a good WR next year to replace the GREAT one we GAVE A WAY because Bill only knows one way to motivate. For someone who “doesn’t have the time”, we’re sure gonna waste a lot of it waiting around for another great WR to come along….
Richard,
Austin, TX
by rich on Aug 5, 2005 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
rich
I wouldnt call bryant a great WR that is just crazy talk. He has the talent to be a good WR for a long time maybe great but good for sure. Its up to him on how good he will be. Keshawn is a Tightend now to me. There is no doubt about it the browns got the best out of that trade.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 11:50 AM CDT reply actions
Boy Rich Antonio was great!! That is if 4 TDs and 700 yards per year makes a WR great? Then he sure was!! … He was a “cancer” long before Parcells got here. … 1st round talent that fell to the end of the 2nd round .. hmmm, I wonder why? … You go “take care of him” and “nuture him” and you will feed the beast. Do as Parcells did and put your foot down and say, “We don’t tolerate that crap here.”, and then maybe you can turn this “kid” into a man. Rule #1 in nuturing a “kid” is make them accountable for their actions.
… and in case you haven’t noticed, this team is better off now than they were 3 .. 4 … 5 … 6 years ago. You talk about building character? Go talk with Richie Anderson, Curtis Martin, Jason Witten, Drew Bledsoe, ect. … Now go look at the guys Parcells cut … where is Quincy? How about Willie Blade? .. Or Derrick Ross? … Surely out of the list one is going to move on and have marginal success in the NFL. So be it, it might be Bryant! Who cares? He is a distraction, to the team, especially the younger players … and quite frankly, we don’t need him! … Still the odds are he will do something stupid, and will be looking for a job before next August …
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 12:07 PM CDT reply actions
AW,
Bryant being a great WR is crazy talk? C’mon, man. I’m talkn raw talent here.
But alright- maybe potentially great? All the tools were there; he just needed the refinement.
And keep in mind, I’m comparing him to the rest of the Dallas WR corps… none have the POTENTIAL or promise that Antonio had. None.
You’re right about the Browns getting the better deal, though. It would be crazy talk to disagree.
Anybody who writes off Bryant as just a “thug” is missing the point and has a very simplistic way of looking at things. In trading Bryant, we made a mistake. It’s OK. We’ve made them before, going back to Jimmy and even Landry.
With or without Antonio Bryant, we’re still gonna be a good team this year. We’d just be a better team with him is all….
Richard,
Austin, Tx
by rich on Aug 5, 2005 12:07 PM CDT reply actions
Eric. P,
Alright, man. Don’t start cry’n, brother!
Most of Bryant’s “distractions” would have been avoided if Parcells had handled him differently. Great coaches can get the best out of their players and know better than treat each one the same. Bill could have done a better job wth Antonio is all. Heck, we only had him, what, two years? I could see your point if we were stocked at WR, but look around, buddy! You wanna take your chances with Morgan, good luck. But 6-10 ain’t good enough for MY Cowboys!!!
Again, if you guide these players and make them feel like they belong, the rewards could be great. But you’ve got to TRY, dude. Not just blow somebody off cuz they don’t say “how high?” when you yell “jump!”.
These aren’t dogs junpn through hoops here. These are players, and in Antonio’s case, a talented player whom BILL failed to bring the best out of.
Man, this Eric. P. SHE sure does get “emotional” about HER Cowboys, Doesn’t SHE….
Go Cowboys!!
;)
by rich on Aug 5, 2005 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
AW,
Go check out Keyshawn’s average yards per catch last year (14 ypc). He averaged a whole yard more last year than what he had averaged during his entire career prior to last season. … Now go compare that 14.0 yards per catch average to some of the better WR in the league. .. Hines Ward career average is 12.0 ypc, and it was 12.6 last year. Marvin Harrison averaged a yard less than Key last season, and has the exact same career average. So your TE theory has a little whole in it. 14 yards per catch is not TE material!
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 12:27 PM CDT reply actions
Rich,
Carter, Bryant, Ross, and Blade!! Go start a team with them and nuture them. I can see you now … “Oh its O.K. Quincy, everyone smokes weed once in a while.” .. “Oh poor Antonio your teammates aint giving you enough attention. Come here boy, I’ll give you a hug.” .. “And Willie oh Willie, here is another hamburger, but this time we got you a diet coke.” … “Its OK boys we have a lot of talent here. Yeah we have the GREAT Antonio Bryant!!”
You and your GREAT Antonio Bryant!! If he was so damn GREAT then why did every team pass him up twice during the 2002 draft!! His GREAT stats speak for themselves 47 games, 141 rec., 2095 yards, & 12 TDs in 3 years. .. But sure because you have NO POINT .. go resort to name calling!!
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
You are higher on Bryant than me, is he your cousin? lol He has more POTENTIAL then our young receivers but who doesn’t. The only reason he has more potential then Glenn and Keshawn is because they are old and they can’t out due anything they have done in the past. Their best years are behind them. We don’t have a #1 on our team Glenn should be the #3 for one then maybe he could last the whole season. Maybe one of your young guy will turn into something because not all the top receivers in the game started at the top.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 12:52 PM CDT reply actions
Does anyone have an injury update on marcus spears. According to the RAnch report Marcus Spears was carted off the field on Friday for what appears to be a knee injury. The extent of the injury is currently unknown, but it says he was unable to put any weight on it leaving the field.
Sucks Bolas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Alds on Aug 5, 2005 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
Eric
The reason I say Keyshawn is a tightend is because he is not going to get deep on anyone and you runs tightend routes. The last two years his longest past has been 39 yards. 14 yards per is good but I would Wards 12 right now because he is better and he can get deep plus Ward is in a run first offence with a rookie qb last year. I would take Marvin over Key too.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 1:08 PM CDT reply actions
AW,
12.0 yards per catch is Ward’s average for his career. He actually did a little better last season. My point is even the best TEs come no where near 14.0 yards per catch, like Key did last season. Gonzalez’s 12.9 was the closest I have seen, and lets face it he is more like a WR anyways (I have never seen him block anybody). Ben Coates and Jay Novacek were pretty good TEs and averaged 11.0 yards per catch during their careers. In recent years the best TEs are getting into the 12 yard range, but still, the good WRs are in the 13-15 yard per catch range. … Maybe its just my opinion, but if Keyshawn gives the Cowboys about the same numbers he did last season, Bledsoe is going to be successful.
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Spears was walking off, but as a precautionary measure was then carted off. As he was walking it didn’t look terribly bad, but looks can be deceving.
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 1:37 PM CDT reply actions
Let’s not forget that Bryant will probably not crack the starting lineup with the Browns. They have Dennis Northcutt who is their number 1 reciever and drafted the best WR in the draft. With Andre Davis healthy, Bryant will probably put up the same numbers as last year. Nobody should worry about the guy gettin 1200 yards and 10 TDs or something. I liked his potential too, but hopefully Morgan will show us something this year. I hope Marcus Spears didnt injure himself too bad, The one thing that will stop us this year is injuries, esp to our starters. Plus he’s just a rookie and needs time to learn during camp. Anyone have more info on the injury, all i know is that it was his knee.
by Lou on Aug 5, 2005 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
eric
Key had a good year last year but my point is he is like having another tightend out there just like Gonzalez is almost like having another WR out there. Key is not a deep threat that is my point. I’m not saying he has to be like Moss but all the top wideouts get deep from time to time. Plus after he get the ball Key is not going anywhere. Key is a good #2 right now we got the best of that trade for him. The fact is we still need a WR a young WR. A lot of teams #2 wideouts is better than what we got and some teams #3 could be our #1. But all this could change by the end of the season.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 1:56 PM CDT reply actions
Lou
The best WR went at #10 but I tell you this I rather have the Browns wideouts over ours.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
AW,
Keyshawn never was a speed receiver. Never! He was always the slow version of the “Playmaker”.
The other thing to remember is Parcells likes to stretch the field side line to side line, and uses deception to stretch it vertically, not just speed. I saw Key outrun the secondary a few times last year. Did I say “outrun”? Get by! He got by the secondary a few times last year. Key is an intrigal part of using the entire field, and that is what most #1 WR do these days. Don’t get fooled by Brandon Stokely’s numbers, as for determining how good of a WR he is. He couldn’t do the things that Keyshawn does as a #1 receiver. .. Sure you want a guy who can turn a minimal gain into a 70 yard TD, but you don’t always have to look at your #1 receiver for that. Glenn has that big play potential, especially now with Bledsoe here. We are all hoping Patrick Crayton has that play making ability too. But going back to Key’s roll, by making defenses cover the entire field, it gives Glenn, and Crayton room to rome over the middle. Even the RBs (Julius, Thompson, and Barber) will benifit from Keyshawn’s abilty to stretch the field from side line to side line..
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
please, please,please be a sprain.
eric r,
he was walking off, good, everywhere ive read he couldnt walk off the field. i hope your right..
by mike on Aug 5, 2005 2:27 PM CDT reply actions
This post is from another article CAMP TRANQUILITY
Jess
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by lilbeast on Aug 5, 2005 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
mike,
Go to dallascowboys.com and the breaking news video, you can see him walking on it.
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
From listening to Mickey Spagnola this injury sounds bad, real bad. This would be a huge loss for us.
by Lou on Aug 5, 2005 2:40 PM CDT reply actions
He walked off the field, but was carted off after that. I’m guessing he got carted off for precautionary measures.
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 2:41 PM CDT reply actions
Rich and Cash,
Never forget that you must NEVER question the great god Parcells! LOL! There is merit to both sides of this argument; it could be AB’s fault for being a scumbag or IT COULD be TunaMan’s fault for being a butthole. Either way we got screwed in the trade. Morgan does not impress me. We should have gotten a 3rd rounder for AB, a 2nd round choice AND starter with MUCH potential.
But then, what do I know? As Eric R would say. My arguments have no merit, for I have refused to bow down and blindly worship.
by James on Aug 5, 2005 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
On DC.com, under the camp mid day report, it says Spear’s status is unclear, but then says hes out for the year. Anyone else see this?
by Lou on Aug 5, 2005 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
James,
No James your anti-Parcells retoric LACKS MERIT because you say "Parcells is a self-styled psychologist who uses manipulation to motivate …. dishonest coercion of an individual through mental and emotional means.â€Â, then again I will ask, why do players follow him from team to team? … He used the same style on Bledsoe, yes? Why the heck did Drew sign back with Parcells then? Same style with Curtis Martin? .. Brian Cox? .. Richie Anderson? .. Keyshawn? …..
If you are going to revist old wounds .. then answer the darn questions! .. Do you recall stating “Simms hates Parcells”? ..and didn’t I resond for you to “show me the money!!” I could hit up a link that Simms reports how he calls Parcells every year, and talks with Parcells. Some hatred!! … where is any proof to anything you say? .. You just write whatever comes to mind .. then when you are PROVEN WRONG .. you rant and rave about something else. Answer the questions! Show me some PROOF where it says Simms hates Parcells. … otherwise your arguement lacks merit.
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
Eric R,
Please enjoy your life, seriously. If you keep a record of what people posted weeks ago, that is evidence that you are in need of some of Bill’s therapy. Honestly, I pity you. Nonetheless, I will be proud to mourn Marcus Spears with you, a fellow ’Boys fan.
P.S. What is a “puffer”?
by James on Aug 5, 2005 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
Eric R,
As for my previous post, it should have read "for I refuse to bow down and blindly worship while wearing rose colored glasses.
Yes, the brilliant writers on the web site have bolluxed their syntax and grammatical order yet again. Is he done for the year or not?
by James on Aug 5, 2005 3:28 PM CDT reply actions
eric
Key is not a #1 anymore he is a #2. He was never a speed receiver, right but he could get deep and he is not a slow version of the Playmaker. And a #1 can use the entire field. And I’m not fooled by Stokely number but he will have better numbers. But when I said some #3 are better that was a bit much. I would take Oakland’s #3 which is Curry. Like I said before Glenn is a #3 right now. There are not many teams that we have a better WR core then.
by AW on Aug 5, 2005 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
Y.A. Tottle,
We keep the language clean here. This is your warning.
Isaac and Ruby,
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by Rafael Vela on Aug 5, 2005 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
James,
Come on you know who the Dark Brothers are but you don’t
know what a “Fluffer” is?? A fluffer is a girl who lets say
“preps”(off camera) the male star in a porn flick…………
dam James i hope you appreciate me because you know
I’m gonna take alot crap from Oiler Troll over this!!!!!!LOL
by becker on Aug 5, 2005 5:44 PM CDT reply actions
James,
Yada yada yada! I am quite sure you will TRY to make a point again, but for now YOU HAVE NO POINT!! So of course you will, just as I predicted, rant and rave about pointless mumbo jumbo.
Oh as for the post: I don’t keep records of what people post. I just knew you had said something really POINTLESS (again), and I knew where to find it. … Unlike you. You say things and don’t have a clue!! Where is that PROOF that Simms hates Parcells? Oh that’s right you can’t find. Just chalk it up as another POINTLESS message written by James. Or how “Parcells players don’t like him” … well then why in the heck do they follow him everywhere he goes!! … momma always said, “stupid is as stupid does.”
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
Becker,
LOL!!!! I knew somebody was going to define a fluffer.
Glad it was you.
by Rafael Vela on Aug 5, 2005 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
AW,
Terry Glenn is a #3 WR? Name one #3 receiver better than him.
Glenn, Key, and Witten were all on pace for 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last season, but Glenn got hurt. If they could just get us close to 3,000 yards and 20 TDs, that is not bad, actually formiddable in the NFL. Anything else the RBs, and other receivers get us would put us in the upper half of the league on those stats. .. This should be a run first offense, but the passing game is good.
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
Rich,
Good points you have an honest eye. Don’t let these Homers e.g. Eric R’s in ability to see the forrest for the tress keep you from posting here. One thing I will not be accused of is not being able to be honest with the product the Cowboys are putting on the field. I am all for having a winner and am more impressed with what we are doing now than I have been in a long time. At the very least we are trying something new and the past few years of 3 and out, and our defense being pounded on for 50 to 60 yards per appearance on the field might be over.
by Cash on Aug 5, 2005 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
Hi Everybody!
And now that we all know each other a little bit better…
Becker, kudos to you for taking one for the team and jumping on that little gem of a grenade. Yieuckt!
For the record, Oiler Troll had no intention of going anywhere near the topic the “fluffer”. We have kids reading this site…perhaps even some of the Cowboy rookies who hopefully will be focused on their jobs and not scamming for wannabe-starlets in North Hollywood (that goes for you, too, Rafael – stay focused).
The closest I am willing to get to the topic is throw out the fun little fact that Dante Antonio Pastorini was married to former Playboy Playmate June “The Bosom” Wilkinson. June was 10 years Dante’s senior, yet he saw something in her. You, too, can see that something in her, too, in the film they did together “Weed – The Florida Connection” (relax, it is only PG-13). Bum Phillips had this to say about the movie: “Well, it was better than CC Rider, l guess.”
Sadly, and to the surprise of nobody, the coupling of a California QB star and a British pinup girl who both tried to reside in Houston, Tx in the late 1970s just did quite work out.
Becker, I hope your wife or girlfriend does not read this page.
And that goes double for you, James, as it may be be better to know than not know in some cases.
What this all tells me is that Bryant brings bad joo-joo with him. Parcells knew what he was doing. I do not see the play of Quincy Morgan conjuring up fluffers anytime soon, or at least I certainly hope not.
Until next time,
Oiler Troll
by Oiler Troll on Aug 5, 2005 7:08 PM CDT reply actions
Cash,
OK I will admit it Antonio Bryant is GREAT!! I wish we had 3 guys that average 700 yards and 4 TDs per year. Oh we do? .. Oh and Antonio threw a towel at a coach, and if you don’t condone this you are a homer, huh? Some logic! The guy was a cancer long before Parcells set foot in Big D. .. Tell me what is so honest about this eye “Bryant is GREAT” .. like I said, go look at his stats, they speak for themselves. …. I will bet you that Antonio the Great, will be cut within two years!! Any takers!!
by Eric R. on Aug 5, 2005 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
Becker,
I stand educated, and I laughed MMFAO. I now understand Oiler Trolls’ reputation. Kudos to both of you.
by James on Aug 5, 2005 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
Not me. Bill’s not perfect, but he’s better than what the Cowboys have had for a few years. Until this year, when the team finally got rid of Lacewell, the drafting had been a disappointment, too. The team looked like a lot of Switzer’s last teams at Oklahoma; lots of both talent and thuggery, lots of front running, little teamwork. Lacewell was responsible for both messes, let’s not forget that. He was OU’s recruiting coordinator under Switzer, which is how he came to Jerry’s attention to begin with.
Bryant may turn out to be great. He certainly has the talent to be. he may also be like Moss, who is better off your team, for any number of reasons. The Raiders will be better this year with Moss, but even Al will have to dump him when he wears out his welcome. Bryant may turn out to be the same, although we will only know that in the long run. Either way, the team as a whole is a lot better than when they had him.
by cowboy bert on Aug 5, 2005 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
CASH, Thanks for the hit back. And naw, man, Erica P. ain’t gonna run me off of this blog.
JAMES, thanks for the sincere reply.
AW, You’re right, Keyshawn’s a TE….
Erica P, my, my, my… GOODNESS, dude- OKay, I’ll stand my my contention that Bryant had the potential to be one of the great Cowboys WR’s. I never said “Bryant is great” as you quoted earlier. I DID state it would be a while till ANOTHER great reciever comes along. I was thinking another Irvin, Pearson, but okay. YOU GOT ME. I’d have checked my wording better if i’d known you had NO LIFE and picked apart people’s posts when they are critical of Parcells….
I’ll also stand by my belief that Parcells failed to bring out the best in this guy. He was the real deal, and YOU can cry about it all you want. If you couldn’t see this guy’s potential than you either don’t know football, weren’t watchn the games, or your rose-colored glasses are glues to your face.
How do you see things? Anyone who disagrees with Parcells is an idiot? I’m as true a Dallas fan as anyone on here, and we’re ALL entitled to our opinions. Who annointed YOU the blog watchdog, anyway?
You’ve been posting all freakn day, man. Got a life??!!! Sad….
Now Bryant is making some good noise in Cleveland. GOOD FOR HIM! Maybe they can get him to perform at the level he’s capable of. Parcell sure couldn’t…
But Erica P’s sure gonna root against him!! What are you afraid of, brother? You’d rather the kid be a FAILURE wherever he goes now because you don’t want to have to admit that we MAY HAVE MADE a mistake when we traded him? What kind of person are you, Eric? It says a lot about you, dude, with your “We don’t tolerate that crap here” attitude, and then you’ll root against the kid when he appears to be turning things around. You’re standards are so high, dude. You’re a class act, Erica, really.
And hey, ERICA, I ain’t name-calling you, sweetheart. I’m just trying to “motivate” you to get your priorities straight, not be so venomous, and maybe think for yourself. Remember, we’re all rooting for the same team here. Just cuz other posters don’t see things as you do, doesn’t mean you have to get all bent out of shape. If this makes me a name-caller, than take it up with your hubby, Parcells- I learned the technique from him… worked for Terry….
rich
by rich on Aug 5, 2005 9:08 PM CDT reply actions
hey rich, why you rippin on me man? im not even that concerned with bryant one way or the other. I think ur trying to call out eric r, pay attention.
by ericp on Aug 5, 2005 11:31 PM CDT reply actions
I never called Bryant great. But from what I saw, the kid was capable of making GREAT catches while all horizontal to the field. You don’t find that in 2nd round picks all that often. Parcells fooked up with that kid. He should have looked beyound the ebonics, if that’s what it was and given the kid a hug. I’ve hear Vermeil cuss players up and down, and then he cries when they are hurt. Do I want Parcells to cry? no. Do I think Vermeil is the better coach? Maybe as an O coordinator but that is it. My point is, in spite of Parcells many wonderful attributes there are some things about him I can’t stand and can only hope they don’t prevent us from being SB winners once more.
by Cash on Aug 5, 2005 11:34 PM CDT reply actions
have you guys been reading on morgan in camp? Hard to tell how accurate it is. like i said yesterday, i dont know if things are that good, or if its all smoke and mirrors, but everything iveread on morgan suggests that morgan (along with cayton and copper) is looking very good.
by ericp on Aug 5, 2005 11:52 PM CDT reply actions
ericp,
Don’t let the facts fool you. We all know that Morgan is a bum. Why? Well, um, because we say so. Who is one going to believe, those lying reporters who watched him practice, or your stalwart blogmates, who have the overwhelming advantage of not actually seeing any of the practices to color their views.
Frankly, why we are wasting our time arguing over a Cleveland Brown is beyond me. I don’t give a flip what he does, one way or another. He’s gone and not coming back. Deal with it!
by Mr. Bill on Aug 6, 2005 12:54 AM CDT reply actions
good call mr bill. that may be the most intelligent statement ive read on this topic. hes gone. its not like we lost k johnson or something. what he does or (more likely) doesnt do with cleveland means nothing to the dallas cowboys. ur a freakin’ genius mr bill.
by ericp on Aug 6, 2005 12:27 PM CDT reply actions
Mr Bill, I don’t have to see him in practice, I’ve watched him play football the last 3 years, Morgan has concrete for hands. I’d love for him to step up and be good, but lets face the REAL facts, he’s having to compete for the 3rd WR spot with a 7th round pick from an NAIA school. Wasn’t Crayton a QB at that? I think that should tell you all you need to know.
by Cash on Aug 6, 2005 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
I think crayton might be the answer to all this anyway. he ight just be our 3rd guy this year. I hate to throw my hat in this ring(ive already been ripped to shreds and i wasnt even saying anything) but y should we accept the press’ stories about bryant doing good if we dont believe the ones about morgan doing good that are coming from our own camp reporters.
by ericp on Aug 6, 2005 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
ericp,
Who said he is doing good? He may have a grab here and there, but as I stated, if he is doing so well then why is Crayton of all people pushing him for a spot?
by Cash on Aug 6, 2005 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
Actually, it has been Crayton getting all the press at 3rd WR; not Morgan.
by James on Aug 6, 2005 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
Funny, I look at it as a good thing that Crayton is pushing Morgan, who also appears to be playing well.
Oh well! That’s just me, I guess. It probably would be a disaster if we actually had 4 decent receivers. What WAS I thinking of?!
by Mr. Bill on Aug 6, 2005 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
ive just seen his name alot on the cowboys website. spangola has commented on him too. No one has freaked out over him, he just seems to be doing good. my point was, y believe one if u dont believe the other. crayton seems to be doing well too. So y shouldnt he be competing with him?
by ericp on Aug 6, 2005 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
First off on morgan at least give him this year to prove himself to you . As you know he was hurt last year and never really got back to being himself . Bryant was an alright player and as of now nothing more and prob. never will be , but dose have much more upside than Morgan . I just cant belive this is what everyone wants to talk about because it is the least of our worries . How about some focus on the switch to the 3-4 , Right guard , And Bledsoe . I mean come on why all this over someone who is no longer on our cowboys , and Morgan who could turn out to be a factor . You just never know .
by Chris on Aug 8, 2005 11:24 AM CDT reply actions

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