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Practice Report -- Thursday, August 18th

The pads went back on today and the hits seemed to snap the Cowboys out of their Wednesday fog. The offense regained some of the spark it showed during Tuesday's drills as the team went through a spirited two hour workout.

The order on the early special teams drills today was kickoff returns as Tyson Thompson and Marion Barber got reps with the first unit. After the daily walkthrough drills and stretching, the defensive drills worked on recognition of misdirection plays. The linebackers, in particular, worked on recognizing cross blocks on running plays and not being sucked inside.

The units then broke into offensive versus defensive sub-units, with the old veterans, Larry Allen and Flozell Adams showing some push in the three on three drills. After another special teams drill the first running 11-on-11 drill was held, with the offense getting a more consistent push versus the defense. Andre Gurode got some praise for his work as Julius Jones and Tyson Thompson produced some good runs.

The team went back to unit work with the offensive and defensive linemen working on stunts and stunt pickups while the offensive skill position players and the back seven defenders worked seven against seven. Demarcus Ware got some work as a left defensive end in his drill and frustrated Rob Petitti.

The final eleven on eleven saw the first team offense put up more big plays. Bledsoe followed a nice crossing route to Patrick Crayton with a perfectly executed post to Terry Glenn, who got behind Terence Newman and Keith Davis. Crayton looks very effective going over the middle, which is probably why he has pulled ahead of Quincy Morgan, who had a reputation, according to K.C. Joyner, for shying away from the middle of the field while in Cleveland.

The defense was not without its moments. Roy Williams threw a Bledsoe pass to Reggie Harrell off target with a well timed safety blitz, and the line had plays that would have produced sacks (the linemen are required to pull up and the QB is allowed to continue the play). However, the offense, far more often than not, was able to recognize blitzes and make the proper adjustments on the fly. This continues the good work against the blitz they showed on Tuesday.

Notes:

  • A helicoper flew very near the practice field while the team was in their early walkthroughs. Parcells followed it with an I-know-it's-nothing-but-I-should-make-sure grin on his face. Fans in the stands yelled out, "it's a spy, Bill! It's the Raiders!"

  • Patrick Crayton increased his reps with the first offensive unit. He got all of them in the last two 11-on-11 drills when the offense ran a 3-WR package and tooks some turns as the #2 to spell Terry Glenn. Crayton continues to get open and make receptions.

  • Drew Bledsoe looks far more comfortable with Terry Glenn than with Keyshawn Johnson. Right now he has the luxury of two go-to guys with Glenn and Jason Witten.

  • The extra work after practice appears to be bearing fruit; Bledsoe and Glenn connected on two long passes today in the 11-on-11s, after days of frustrating near misses.

  • Bledsoe's overall accuracy looks improved. He completed two dandy stop fades to Glenn and to Crayton over tight Terence Newman coverage.

  • Tyson Thompson and Marion Barber got a lot of reps with the first and second units today. Thompson is ahead of Barber in the pecking order, but both made good runs and receptions.

  • Parcells has described Demarcus Ware as "lost" in coverage. And he has been burned badly on passes this week. Today, however, he dropped an interception in a 7-on7 drill. The learning curve is steep, but he's working at it.

  • When the defense played nickel in the 11-on-11 today the front seven had Ware and Ellis flip-flopping sides at DE and Glover teaming with Leo Carson. Scott Shanle and Dat Nguyen were the LBs.

  • Marco Rivera was in shorts again today but the intensity of his agility drills increases. If this were the regular season, he would probably be playing.

  • The offense practiced four WR sets for the first time this week. Up to this point, Dallas has set its TEs wide when it wanted to spread a defense out.

  • Andre Gurode and Al Johnson continue to rotate at center, though Gurode got the majority of snaps today. Gurode continues to manhandle the backup NTs -- those not named Ferguson or Glover -- in run drills and matches up better against the big boys than Johnson.

  • It was another Wheaties day for Larry Allen, who had the ILBs -- ALL of the ILB's -- reminding him to save some pop for the real games, during three-on-three run blocking drills.

  • Flozell Adams also looked good in the three on three, getting the better of Greg Ellis.
  • Copyright 2005 by Rafael Vela

    Note: I'll only file one report tomorrow, after the morning practice. I have an early flight to catch Saturday morning and need to get back to the city. I hope you're enjoying these.

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    good work look forward to tomorrows report, nice job for the week rafeal. any word on merritt chances?

    by mike on Aug 18, 2005 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

    Very Nice Job really enjoyed the news from camp….Thanks.

    by NW on Aug 18, 2005 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

    again thank you….

    by dionlo on Aug 18, 2005 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

    Nice, thank you.

    When they used 4WR’s, who was in?

    by Big Jim on Aug 18, 2005 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

    Mike,

    Merritt’s got a chance, with Morgan apparently pouting. But from what I’ve seen, I don’t know that he’s been any better than Jamaica Rector or Terrence Copper, who are also making some catches. I think it will come down to performance in the games.

    Big Jim,

    Keyshawn, Glenn, Crayton and Morgan

    by Rafael Vela on Aug 18, 2005 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

    Phenomenal reporting. Really, abso-freakin’-lutely fantastic.

    I really think you missed your calling as a sports reporter.

    by Fighter15 on Aug 18, 2005 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

    Oh yeah, Reggie Harrell is making some catches too. The first three spots are set IMO with Glenn, Keyshawn and Crayton, with the last two to be fought over.

    by Rafael Vela on Aug 18, 2005 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

    These reports have been great. Glad to hear Bledsoe is coming around. He sounds like a great guy in interviews, but we also need him to perform.

    by ESP on Aug 18, 2005 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

    reason i think we should keep merritt is for the fact hes been in the league has some good experience as a wr and a special teams player.

    by mike on Aug 18, 2005 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

    The first four receivers are no brainers in my opinion, KJ,Glenn,Crayton,Morgan, with Copper leading the rest since he played and was pretty good on special teams last year. Rector, harrell might be an option for the practice squad and for merritt to make the team, he better return some punts or kick returns in the next two games to the house.

    by Derrick on Aug 18, 2005 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

    Its good to hear bledsowe is looking sharp. I reaaly thought crayton would pull ahead. He shows sparks of big play ability. Thanks rafeal. This is good stuff. Is the blog set up different, or is my computer just being weird?

    by ericp on Aug 18, 2005 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

    I’ve been away for the past few days so I missed alot. However, IMO the top 4 are set KJ, Glenn,Crayton,Morgan, and a toss up between Crowder and Copper, because they can both have a significant impact on ST. Give the inside edge to Crowder because he has a good relationship with the young QB’s as he was there target practice during the off-season.

    by Matt on Aug 18, 2005 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

    Is crayton number 3 for sure? When did this occur? Or is it just looking good for him?

    by ericp on Aug 18, 2005 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

    Just based on what ive seen of copper, i think he can compete. I would even give him the edge. Is crowder a good special teams guy? That could make a big difference.

    by ericp on Aug 18, 2005 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

    I just stumbled across your site and it is fantastic. I’ll be back soon and often, go Cowboys!

    by Josh S on Aug 19, 2005 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

    Can hardly wait to see the boys in action Monday night. based on these reports it sounds like things are really coming together. My prediction for monday night is the silver and blue smokes some birds.

    by Shawn K on Aug 19, 2005 12:56 AM CDT reply actions  

    Rafael, Thanks. This is some of the best Dallas Cowboys coverage/reporting I’ve seen in yeaars. You put those paid columnist to shame.

    by Darrell W. on Aug 19, 2005 1:30 AM CDT reply actions  

    Does Petitti look like he can handle the RT position as it now appears that Rogers is done for the year

    http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstorync/stories/081905cpcowbriefs.1d1eb8a1.html

    by Jeff on Aug 19, 2005 1:48 AM CDT reply actions  

    Also want to thank you for the fantastic job you’re doing.

    by Jeff on Aug 19, 2005 1:50 AM CDT reply actions  

    Dmn.com is reporting that Jacob Rogers needs surgery and is out for the season as per Jerry Jones.

    by Big Jim on Aug 19, 2005 2:27 AM CDT reply actions  

    Okay last game we had Bledsoe 29.7 QB rating,Romo 92.7 and Henson 39.9……..hope we have more production………

    by AndyZ on Aug 19, 2005 2:48 AM CDT reply actions  

    With Rogers down and probably not the type of guy to come back from this (or any) injury we are left with Pettiti, Tucker and Vollers. BP sure doesn’t seem to be as down on Tucker as we are so maybe he’s seeing something that we aren’t. As I see it there are 3 viable options; (1) Sign one of the RTs out there along with their baggage, (2) go with what we got and hope for the best for development of Pettiti and regained focus by Tucker or (3)shuffle LA to RT and backfill behind him. Of these options the one I hope for is 2. I don’t see us signing anybody released off another team that would improve our situation. If we are going to do the LA shuffle we need to do it now so the line has time to jell.

    by Sean on Aug 19, 2005 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

    I found this site a couple of weeks ago and with the excellent reporting and good responses, it makes it by far the best Cowboys site out there. I’m think I’m already hooked on this site. Keep it up y’all.

    by Mark on Aug 19, 2005 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

    Al Johnson came back from the same knee surgery. However, two season ending surgeries in a row is tough for an unproven guy that has yet to start a game. I would put him on IR and let him compete in training camp next year. Maybe by then he can get his shoulder stronger and fully healed and if the knee is ok. Too bad, the guy looked like he might have a shot at it and be the answer at RT.

    Oh well.

    by Jon on Aug 19, 2005 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

    Yeah, but consider this: we’re now into year three and Parcells still hasn’t filled the RT hole that was there when he signed up. Petitti is game and he’s got potential, but the question is does he have it right now?

    I watch him and ask myself, could this guy go four quarters — RIGHT NOW — with Michael Strahan? The answer is no. Not without a lot of help from TEs and backs.

    by Rafael Vela on Aug 19, 2005 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

    Rafael,

    All eyes (at least those not glued to the quarterbacks) will be on right tackle during the Seattle game. My best guess would be that Scott Gragg will be in a Cowboys uniform by Wednesday.

    It’s one thing to make sure your young players get maximum reps in training camp, and are given every opportunity to succeed. But, training camp will be over in a few days, and it’s time to make a decision at right tackle, so that the team can get ready for the regular season. So, unless someone steps up big time against the Seahawks, the Cowboys will be forced to look outside and quickly. My money’s on Gragg.

    by Mr. Bill on Aug 19, 2005 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

    I agree Rafael and Mr. Bill,it’s time(now that Rodgers is outta the picture) to sign a vet to solidify that position.Pettiti is game but it’s just too much too soon for him!And i agree that it will probably happen early next week….

    by sharkz on Aug 19, 2005 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

    I love McBriar’s new nickname too….“thunderfoot”

    by sharkz on Aug 19, 2005 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

    rafeal
    your right he cant go four quarters, but we have vollers wholl help out with that situation. i say give it to petitte, or bring in gragg. vollers and petitte very easily coud rotate that position like the d-line do. keep them fresh, that might work.

    by mike on Aug 19, 2005 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

    Crayton really sounds(and looks) like he’s coming along nicely!at 6ft 200lbs he has the size and talent to really help us this year…..Julius running,adding in a few sweeps for Thompson,Witten,Keyshon tearing up the middle,Glenn and Crayton racing down the open field……I’m ready for some football!!!!!! GO COWBOYS!!!!!!

    by sharkz on Aug 19, 2005 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

    there are very few RTs in the league that can contain someone like Strahan (at least as he was at his peak, which he no longer is). Those are the guys in the Pro Bowl (or should be). So that is not what the need is for RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW we need someone that can handle MOST of the DE’s that he will meet without letting them eat up the QB. Pettiti just might be that guy by the beginning of the season, or at least pretty close to it. THAT is what BP has to find out in the next week or so.

    by Burmafrd on Aug 19, 2005 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

    I’d love for Pettiti to become the answer, but history doesn’t bode well. Tuinei, Erik Williams, Newton, Flozell, and Rivera (as was highlighted in a recent article) all struggled in their first and most times second years. In fact, there are very few examples of an OL coming out of college and dominating. And almost every one of those was a high first round pick (i.e., Pace, Ogden).

    I agree with MrBill that Gragg is the front runner for our RT spot.

    But I’ve got an interesting theory that I’d welcome some feedback on. Ross Verba, signed to a one-year $5 mil or so contract to fill in for this year only.

    Knowing that he’d be playing for a contract year, on an up and coming team, that would give him an opportunity to be perceived as a savior (although we all know it wouldn’t be true) just might be enough to put his ego in check enough to work with Parcells.

    Whadya think?

    by Fighter15 on Aug 19, 2005 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

    Raf,
    great job!!! If you could give your impressions of B.P. coaching
    style.Also how is Ben Noll doing?
    As for right tackle B.P. maybe waiting to see who other teams
    cut before he signs gragg or verba.

    by becker on Aug 19, 2005 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

    5 mill for one single year? I don’t think so, not for a Right Tackle, that’s Left Tackle money… And we don’t need a LT, as far as I know we have 3, and I’m not counting Rogers anymore… at least for the year. If Rogers goes to IR, look for Gragg signed in the same day or so. Gragg is a good player, one that is good in pass protection and better in run blocks, and will make the roster in Rogers place.

    by Chandus on Aug 19, 2005 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

    i would like to wait on gragg which might or might not happen, im sure they are gonna let petitte play monday and go from there. i thought he did a good job last saturdy for someone who had basically a week to switch from the left to the right side. people get burnt it happens as long as it doesnt happen to often. we will see monday, petitte, ware and canty are the biggest 3 im gonna be watching monday night.

    by mike on Aug 19, 2005 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

    i mean kinda evaluate petittes play on monday and go from there, hes supposed to see alot of playing time.

    by mike on Aug 19, 2005 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

    What?,5 million for Verba, a tackle who wanted to test the free agent market and actually paid cleveland 450,000 to get out of his contract to do so and that was in early may and hasn’t had a sniff from another team. Can you say, league minimum, thats what he’s going to get, better at guard than tackle at that. I do think were probably going to bring in a vet, but not for 5 mill for anyone. I wonder if there is a team with alot of depth at tackle we could make a trade a conditional late rounder for. I thought at the time during free agancy that we should of went after Kareem mackenzie, coming back to bite us in the azz

    by Derrick on Aug 19, 2005 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

    You cannot fill every hole- you have to prioritize. I agree on where the money was spent this offseason. You have to gamble some- and there are times when you are lucky and times when you are not.

    by Burmafrd on Aug 19, 2005 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

    Burmafrd,

    Whoever plays RT for the Cowboys will have to face Strahan twice this year. And you can bet the Eagles will slide Jevon Kearse over there if they sense a weakness. Look, I think Petitti has some real potential. From the work the coaches give him it’s clear. But when a green rookie like Demarcus Ware gives him fits and when he’s asking the tight ends between plays what to do, well, that’s a RIGHT NOW issue. Because one big mental blow up and Drew Bledsoe’s got a broken leg. And then this year is a repeat of last.

    And who wants to go back there?

    by Rafael Vela on Aug 19, 2005 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

    who is Gragg I don’t know anything about him, how old is he, has he been a pro bowler and will he be a locker room distraction.

    by Matt on Aug 19, 2005 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

    Played with SF and a few other teams. 12 year vet. Made Pro Bowl in 2001. Will probably be available for near the league minimum.

    The $5 mil number is not LT money…they’re pulling in $8-$10 per for top of the line. I agree that he’s an egoist and not worthy of a long term deal, but we’re asking for a stop-gap measure.

    My first instinct is to let BP have his way and we’ll be OK. Campbell and Rivera sandwiching Pettiti would be adequate. It just takes away the ability to spread the field.

    Gragg would be a good fill-in. I just think Verba would be a better stop-gap. He’s mean, experienced, and has the pro-bowls to back it up.

    Would I want him for 4 years, no. 1 year, while waiting for Pettiti to mature, absolutely.

    by Fighter15 on Aug 19, 2005 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

    Hey, Rafael!

    Get back to work!

    by Fighter15 on Aug 19, 2005 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

    If verba is getting no offers what so ever and why do you think that is?, why would you pay him 5 mil a year when you could get him for less and by the way he’s not good in the locker room either,if he’s an option, then why not pay him the minimum or why not wait until after week one and then his contract isn’t guaranteed

    by Derrick on Aug 19, 2005 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

    Fighter15
    You are right I don’t know if people in here are going to remember when Erik Williams went down and they put Larry Allen in this spot. Larry Allen sucked he was getting beat all the time. Then the next year he just took off he was a different player.

    by AW on Aug 19, 2005 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

    One of the previous posters mentioned rotating Vollers and Pettiti at RT. Great idea, why not? It works for the DL. When we drafted Pettiti I had a feeling about the guy. Although I agree that right now it is too much-too soon for him. I would still dump Tucker though. I’m not for bringing in someone that no-one else seems to want.

    by James on Aug 19, 2005 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

    James,

    I dont think their is any doubt that as of right now that Vollers and Pettiti are going to rotate in and out on the right side until Pettiti can handle the job fulltime, but I still think a vet is going to be brought in for some help

    by Derrick on Aug 19, 2005 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

    Tucker sucks. Rogers might just need a new start somewhere else. I was happy to see us draft him because he went to my high school but I think he needs to go. This is not good for Happy feet Bledsoe. I think they should just let Pettiti do it as long as he shows improvement over the year it will be his job for a long time.

    by AW on Aug 19, 2005 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

    Derrick
    I don’t think they are going to rotate because BP wants Vollers to be a back up to the O line he doesn’t want him a starter or a part time starter.

    by AW on Aug 19, 2005 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

    AW,

    Right now, its a crap shoot at right tackle. I really like Pettiti, but I dont think he’s ready to start a whole 16 game season and the grind that goes with it. Tucker cant seem to get his head out of his azz, so the only really viable option is Vollers. I think your right when you think bill wants one guy to take charge at right tackle, but he might not have a choice but to rotate. I just hope things workout there in a hurry.

    by Derrick on Aug 19, 2005 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

    Derrick

    I got this from the NFL.com site for those who wanted to know possible available Right Tackles. Also included is a list from Fox sports of available free agent Tackles

    Fox Sports says:
     Ross Verba is a tweener between left guard and tackle, but is coming off a very strong season. Verba lacks ideal size and athleticism, but is very smart and plays with excellent technique. His history of injuries is troubling from the past. There is no question Chris Terry has a lot of talent and possesses the feet to play left tackle, but is reliable off the field. He’s also coming off an injury and hasn’t been committed towards his rehab. Kyle Turley is a very good athlete, but is coming off a herniated disc in his back and has lost a lot of weight. His future is uncertain. Scott Gragg is a natural right tackle with a lot of experience, but is nearing the end of his career. Marcus Price has some value as a reserve. Matt Willig is just a big body who has some experience. He has chronically bad knees and struggles in pass protection.
    NFL.com shows these teams with four or more Offensive Right Tackles:
     
    Cincinnati Bengals
    Right Tackles
    R. Tucker
    J. Collins
    J. Dunn
    G. Randall
    Denver Broncos
    Right Tackles
    G. Foster
    A. Clement
    D. Carswell
    C. Green
    Cleveland Browns
    Right Tackles
    W. Anderson
    S. Andrews
    B. Johnson
    R. Hicks
    Tampa Bay Bucs
    Right Tackles
    K. Walker
    C. Colmer
    S. Lightbody
    J. Hatch
    San Diego Chargers
    Right Tackles
    S. Olivea
    L. Jordan
    C. Joseph
    C. Lekkerkerker
    Kansas City Chiefs
    Right Tackles
    J. Black
    K. Sampson
    B. Williams
    C. Bober
    New York Giants
    Right Tackles
    K. McKenzie
    B. Winey
    J. Hilliard
    M. Pears
    New York Jets
    Right Tackles
    A. Jones
    M. Cavka
    M. Kracalik
    I. Snell
    Seattle Seahawks
    Right Tackles
    F. Womack
    S. Locklear
    W. Hunter
    R. Willis
    Tennessee Titans
    Right Tackles
    T. Williams
    M. Roos
    B.Swaggert B. Herrell
    S. Rodgers
    J. Bell

    by Tommy Foy on Aug 19, 2005 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

    Thanks, tommy.

    I’m sure the scouting staff are on the move to search for a viable right tackle as we type. I imagine their is going to be some cowboys scouts at the weekend preseason games specifically for that purpose. I’m sure by next wednesday that a right tackle will be signed or traded for.

    by Derrick on Aug 19, 2005 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

    do we gain much by outright cutting Rogers?

    I mean if he has a year and comes back and beats out the other guys in practice isn’t that worth the risk, bad shoulder, then a bad knee, sounds like bad luck and maybe his is about to change in YEAR THREE. I think you give the kid a year to fix the knee.

    Folks wanted to give up on Al Johnson and he turned out to be our starting C. Probably again this year too or at least an alternate at C and G. I hate to see 2nd rounder cut and then go blossom at Atlanta or somewhere else.

    Oh well. Jimmy Smith still haunts me.

    by Jon on Aug 19, 2005 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

    Jon
    You are sooo right I guess he should get this third shot.

    by AW on Aug 19, 2005 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

    Jon.

    I agree, it cost us nothing to keep him around one more year, get his knee and shoulder fixed, another good offseason workout and see what happens in training camp next year and if it doesn’t work out, then cut him lose.Too many knee jerk reactions here that could come back and bite us in the azz. We certainly dont have very good luck with our second round draft picks in regards to all these injuries to them

    by Derrick on Aug 19, 2005 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

    I’m glad to hear Crayton doing well because I’m tired of hearing about other teams finding a late round gem that turn into a star or at least contribute like Ward, Mason and Curry (before he got hurt last year he was having a good year). So hopefully we have something here.

    by AW on Aug 19, 2005 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

    Thanks Rafael,

    Your reports have been very detailed and very well written.

    Thanks again.

    by Steve on Aug 19, 2005 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

    I’m also on the let’s-wait-another-year-for-Rogers bandwagon, the guy has the ability which has to count for something, and there’s also that Parcells law: “You have to show something by your third year” and it hasn’t come for Rogers.

    by Chandus on Aug 19, 2005 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

    I think Jerry and Bill are just posturing for the “no guts no glory” football mentality.

    I remember seeing Jerry on HBO calling parents when a kid got hurt. I think Jerry has been a class act when a cuts a kid or during an injury. They are just griping to play the owner player relationship no guts no glory. You know Rogers could have decided to do the knee because the shoulder is not fully healed also. He figure take the plunge under the knife now and give the shoulder additional time to heal.

    by Jon on Aug 20, 2005 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

    Here is the ultimate scoop on Gragg, grew up in Oregon, College ball at the U of Montana, drafted 2nd round by the Giants, after five years with the Giants played five years with The 49ers. Missed his first regular season start with a high ankle sprain, besides that has been injury free in his career. He is the ultimate team player and any team that gets him will be getting a RT that is ready to start and be a team leader from the time he gets off the plane in what ever city he ends up in. He has been training and is in great shape. Gragg has been in contact with several teams and has turned down several offers thus far. COWBOY FANS we need Gragg to hold down the right side and protect Bledsoe. Any Questions?

    by tracy on Aug 24, 2005 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

    Oh and by the way, he played with and practiced against Strahan for 5 years and has shut him down on every occassion he played him while in San Fran, need I say any more?

    by tracy on Aug 24, 2005 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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