Slogging Forward -- Dallas Beats Houston 21-9

What is Beriault’s status? He didn’t play so will BP put him on the roster, or the Injured List.

How did the back up NT’s play? Well enough to spell Glover For a few of the defensive 3/4 snaps?

Sadly, I was out of town this weekend. Had no access to the game on TV, radio, or internet. How was James vs Shanle? Coady? Johnson vs Gurode, Canty? Carson vs Johnson? Impressions please.

Alan,

They played a lot of 4-3 in the second half and had Leo Carson teaming up with Glover, at least the parts I remember. I didn’t pay close attention to this, but I should give it another look.

I breathed a sigh of relief when this Marler fellow failed his physical. He was definitely not worth a REAL draft pick. My impressions about Cortez were correct it seems. His kickoffs are good but ther is just something about his FG kicking. Unless another vet becomes available the next two weeks I predict that Cundiff will be back with us when he is eligible to be re-signed. If someone else doesn’t grab him in the meantime.

James,

I dont think the cowboys can sign cundiff back until after week 10

derrick,
I could be wrong, but I believe it’s 10 weeks from his injury settlement, which would be mid-season. But that is what I meant. He will probably be signed by someone else by then.

On an unrelated note, the Eagles just removed the franchise tag from DT Corey Simon. He is an unrestricted free agent.

Ad,
I too am curious about Beriault.If they put him on IR he
is out for the year.After his performance Mon. he will not
clear waviers.My thought is include him on the roster then
put him on IR scope his knee and then bring him back.

Looks like Maurice Clarett is going to be released by the Broncos this week, so much for his NFL career, guess he should of stayed in school, he might of learned about getting a signing bonus when you sign with an NFL team, instead of tying your contract to performance bonuses. His next job will contain the following line-“would you like some fries with your order”

I know its early…. but man what a class of rooks and rookie FAs
the cowboys have this year!!!!It looks like almost all the drafted
guys are going to make it never seen that before on any team
but maybe i’m wrong..

Derrick,
That cold….funny..but cold.
B.P. liked him but ain’t no room at running back on the boys….
can’t believe i just said that!!!!!!What a difference one year makes

Well, there’s no room for him on our roster. LOL!

Reposted, from another thread:

This was a decent test. The Texans expect to be a borderline playoff team this year, and spent a busy offseason themselves, upgrading speed and replacing older veterans with younger players. Johnson is widely viewed as a stud receiver, Davis is a two-time 1000 yard running back, and Carr is expected to become a great one, as he enters his 4th year. Buchanon and Robinson should be one of the better sets of corners in the league. The O line his been upgraded after all of the sacks it has allowed in past years. The defense is a 3-4 that has been a staple there since the team started. Dom Capers is a disciplined coach who fields disciplined teams.

So, what happened? Bledsoe outplayed Carr. The Dallas CBs outplayed the Houston CBs. Johnson was not a big factor. Dallas had the better running attack, with the Dallas starter and FA RB outplaying the Texanâ€â"¢s starter and 3rd round pick. The Dallas 3-4 looked more intimidating than Houstonâ€â"¢s. Dallasâ€â"¢s O line outplayed Houstonâ€â"¢s. Houston, with a QB completing 70% and no team turnovers in the preseason before the game, turned the ball over 3 times, all forced by the Dallas D, including two ints.

First, the positive. The refs signaled early that they would call a tight game—Dallas adjusted before Houston did. Crowder made a nice catch. Romo looked like a solid #2—far better than Banks, who is about league average as a #2, and who was once Dallasâ€â"¢s #2. Thompson solidified a roster spot. Petitti looked good enough, and the O line played well, even missing Rivera. Even without Ferguson, the Dallas D line was too much for Houston to handle very consistently, especially Gloverâ€â"¢s quickness, which disrupted much of what they were trying to do. I donâ€â"¢t know how many times Houston had 3rd and over 10 last night, but it seemed like a lot.

Now, the negative. Bickerstaff whiffed on blocks that killed 3rd down opportunities. James still did not seem to impact the game. Morgan was inconsistent again. The special teams sucked, although I suspect people Parcells judges to be borderline at making the team, at best, were largely manning them, trying to impress and given an opportunity to do so. They did not.

Over all, this was impressive. Wins and losses in preseason mean very little, but progress means a lot. This looks like a completely different team from the one seen against AZ two weeks ago.

also of note for those interested in what roles will be played, and how the cuts will fall…..carson played fullback in the goal line sets.

Also Parcells doesn’t trust cundiff…he won’t be back….I don’t hold the missed field goal against Cortez, it was a rushed kick, under 10 seconds and ticking when he started for the field, not saying we’re set at kicker, just that particular kick, i’m not upset about.

CORTEZ might still be the guy. Besides, we MIGHT be scoring more TD’s this year than kicking fieldgoals… for a change.

Yeah, quite a difference a year makes. Another draft like this one, with an emphasis on OFFENSE (ie. stud WR, lineman, QB), and we’ll be a SUPERBOWL contender just in time for a our brand-spanking new stadium.

Rafael,

I saw alot of Canty lined up as a tackle.

Don’t know if this was reported already but reshard lee was
wavied by Buffalo today.

I watched the game tonight and was impressed with Davis’s play. We might have a keeper at the FS spot. Tyson Thompson looked good again in clean up duty and what more can be said about Crayton. Some one said something about him being fearless across the middle. That would be the word I would use to describe what he did against the Texans. Petitti & Ware played through some pain, something that will endear them to Parcells. I was encouraged by the progress and if the offense can get some confidence they might be a powerhouse. When the passing game began to click the holes for the Juice seemed to get better. The defense will be salty by week 8 and no one will want a part of them. The only thing now that I fear is injury. I want to believe in Romo, but until he does it in a game that means something I will reserve judgement. I would like to see him get the start against the number 1 defense of Jacksonville, just to see how much he has progressed. I might be a homer and maybe a little unrealistic, but I see a good chance of us dethroning the Eagles this year. We will see. Regardless, I would rather believe and be wrong than naysay and feel bad about the future. Just the musings of a long time Cowboy fan.

There is a pretty good article on “Dallas Cowboys Most Valuable Network.” In the article, Will Parchman said that Petitti is really an animal. There is a bit of insight into several important issues. Check it out.

I said a a while back that Petitti would be the starting RT and he’s proving it. I sure am loving the depth that we have on the D-Line! What a great defense this will be, especially when Spears and Ferguson return! Crayton will be the third WR. How ’bout dem Cowboys!

We definately have upgraded the talent on this team,not too long ago we were trying to win games with Hambrick,Hunter,Dixon,Dalroy Stewart,Lee,etc…..all recently cut from other teams……

I just saw that the Jaguars released Troy Edwards. Perhaps the Cowboys ought to release Quincy Morgana and replace his spot with Edwards. I don’t know much about Edwards production but he was a former 1st rounder.

I’ve seen a lot of names I’m familiar with get released. I did see that Reshard got the boot, but he may wind up somewhere this year. Javier Collins was also released. I expect to see some more former Cowboys released soon. Hutch has played himself out of the rotation in Chicago, so he might wind up unemployed soon too.

I’ll be watching the waiver wire to see what shakes out at certain positions, but I honestly believe that we’re pretty much set at most positions. A kicker, another free safety, and possibly another right tackle IF someone good comes over the wire and is willing to play for less. It’s an interesting time of year folks. I can’t wait to see what happens next.

My only real regret is that I think Parcells is going to have to cut Woody Dantzler again. God, I hate to see that happen. Parcells acknowledged that he made a mistake last time when he cut him, but this time, I just don’t know what we’d do with him. I just hate to see a guy with his talent let go. It would have been nice to at least give him more of a shot at QB. That’s what he was in college. He took a couple of snaps in a practice session from what I hear, but that was it. The man can return a punt though.

Speaking of getting released, Aaron Elling (PK Minnesota) may get the boot. Elling was more consistant than Marler. Edinger looks like he wrapped up that spot in Minnesota. Just keep an eye out for him.

when Dantzler got cut the first time, he was more talented then some players we kept, but his ability just didn’t fit our needs. Thats not the case this year, with our new talent, Dantzler no longer is the “gem”, only a “good” player, which is how it should be.

I know, but I still hate to see us let him go. He’ll wind up somewhere and probably perform well against us.

I was very impressed with Tyson Thompson. I think it was 9 out of 10 plays Big Bill force feed him the ball and he held up. One of those carries he got hit in the ribs and looked to have been shaken up a bit.

Randall

He was shaken up a bit. He wanted to come out of the game, but Romo talked him into staying in. He let Thompson know that he was being tested. I think he passed the test, don’t you? I’ve been saying all along that there seems to be no way to let this kid go. There won’t be any sneaking him on the the practice squad. With Philadelphia being short on running backs, it would be just our luck that he’d wind up there where twice a year, he’d make us pay for not keeping him on the team.

Dantzler had his shot.They sent him to Nfl europe and the Cowboys
are not exactly deep at the safety position.I think the cowboys have
done all they could to help him make the team.

This may be off topic, but I really enjoyed the open thread game night. There are many of us in other markets that don’t get the games, don’t have any real good sportsbars convenient, nor have DirectTV (although I’m going to soon rectify). Listening to the game (a very big THANK YOU to whomever gave the radio link) and seeing insight on the blog was very insightful and enjoyable.

The ettiquette displayed was commendable. The last thing any of us want is a childish banter of name calling and my dad can beat up your dad crap.

As a suggestion, a scheduled rotation of commentary would be fun and allow better game coverage with less noise. Say rich takes a series, then Eric, Starstruck, etc…and Rafael and others could provide some halftime analysis. The rest of the thread would make for some nice debate.

Mea culpa on Petitti—he showed us something on Saturday. Two somethings maybe: talent and toughness. Still not sure whether the defense he was facing was throwing much quality at him, but he took care of business regardless. With some pain. And without Rivera next to him. Good stuff.

Keith Davis looked good again, especially his tackling/hitting. I didn’t see any major problems in coverage, either. And if Roy, Newman and Henry keep this pace up, we’ll have one of the better secondaries in the league. Can’t believe I just said that!

Crayton looks like the real deal, too, and seeing BP unleash the air attack a little in the 2nd quarter was wonderful. Terry Glenn is a stud. Ditto Witten. Campbell is solid, and so is Bledsoe. Now if we could just see Keyshawn get worked into the offense a little, then start throwing to Glenn and Crayton downfield a bit, we’ll have a genuine NFL offense!

As for JJ, AT and TT…we’re stacked. TT doesn’t have any moves in the hole, but that speed makes up for it some. Want to see him get a better feel on returns, though; Newman may be good at it, but we can’t lose him to injury.

So what are my concerns now?

1. Cortez. Strong kickoffs, but poor accuracy on FGs.
2. James. Still not making many plays. Lost in coverage.
3. Fergusen. Glover is a stud, and dominated last night, but it’s not like Houston has been running over people the last two years. Fergusen is the run stuffer we need and there is no way Glover will hold up at that position for 40+ plays every game in the regular season.
4. Ware. He’s a playmaker, which is GREAT. But he still seemed to blow containment on Saturday at times. Love the guy, looking forward to seeing some sacks, but he needs to become more disciplined quickly.
5. Keyshawn. Where is he? Does Bledsoe know he’s alive? Isn’t he the go-to-guy on 3rd-and-5? Yet they failed to convert time and again last night. Let’s hope this is just BP testing everything else first.
6. O-Line. I know they were good last night. But they weren’t running the ball down Houston’s throat either. And Houston had the 16th ranked D in points last year…though 13th against the run. And yes the pass protection was good, but that’s against a Houston D that registered dead last in sacks last year (we had 33, they had just 24). So forgive me if I’m still concerned that our 1st team had every opportunity to move the ball but failed to for most of 2 quarters.

We’ll likely have one of the top 10 defenses this year, but an offense in the bottom half of the league…again. Maybe that’ll be enough for the wildcard, but any improvement in personnel is the real win this year. Long way to go for a Super Bowl berth!

Off topic! Corey Simon is now unrestricted free agent. He has been wanting a big long term contract, now the Eagles just let him go. No one realy has the cap room now to do anything with him this year. Trust me I hate the birds but sometimes I can’t help but admire how they handle some of these players.

I have DVR and watched the replay of the game last night about 3x. The offensive line stunk in the first 2/3 of the first half. They were confused and played terribly. They had no idea what to do against an attacking 3-4, which is curious. Flozell Adams looked like he did in Campo’s last year. Just standing with his arms out, watching blitzers getting by him making plays in the backfield.
Tyson Walter looked bad. When Noll replaced him, the offense settled and began moving hte ball. It could also be that Houston was tyring different things on defense and called off the blitzes.
Petitti never looked overmatched or out of his depth. He’s a very capable pass blocker, I can’t remember noting anything about him runblocking. I have no idea about what is really going on in preseason games, but I think this kid is a lock to start.
It was hard to tell about our D when starters played starters. Canty got good push, as did Glover. Canty is Manimal. Pure freak. the 3 in the 3-4 is solid, and Ferguson hasn’t even played. the 4 in the 3-4, however, those guys leave a lot to be desired. Singleton looked pretty good, but that’s only due to him playing with Burnett, Ware, James and Shanle – he looks good in comparison.
Davis was never tested deep. He LOVES to frickin lay some wood, boy. He and Roy were having some fun. I hope he’s a fundamentally sound tackler, and takes the right angles, because i think our LBs will be providing him some chances to make important tackles.
Love Newman, Henry and Glenn.
Crowder is a great gunner. It’s fun to watch him zip down field with two DBs chasing him, and losing ground as they do.
David Carr didn’t look good, neither did the his WRs. If they had played only fairly poorly, they’d have stuck it to the Cowboys in the first two quarters. THey played very badly, with a lot of stupid penalties.
Conversely, the Cowboys were flagged in the first half on three phantom penalties. Larry Allen didn’t FLINCH on his movement penalty. Ware didn’t cross the line of scrimmage, and Glover didn’t hold anybody – in fact, Ware was tackled by the LT on that play. Those calls were like th eofficials had brain farts and just spazzed. I bet Parcells sends tapes of those calls in to the NFL.
Thompson and A Train are 2nd tier RBs but with enough to their game that they are adequate in relief of J.J. Julius is unbelievably quck and tough. He’s just great to watch. Barber, who didn’t play, has a little wiggle to his game and should be a deadly companion to JJ when he become more reliable.
Campbell is just outstanding. Good hands, good blocker.
Witten is lining up wide a lot and in the slot.
I don’t like payton’s play calling, but, that doesn’t mean much in the pre-season.

From what I could see, there is a lot to work on with the OL and the LBs.

Further off topic S. Merriman is out at least 2 weeks knee
injury according to espn.

Sorry to hear about Merriman. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. I’m sure Y.A. Toddle is on one their blogs right now with his tumor talk.

3 guys: Beriault, “Pepper”, and Thompson. We MUST keep all three because none of them have any hope of clearing waivers and being placed on the practice squad. I know we have a roster spot for 2 of them, but not all three for sure. Who gets the shaft? Henson! He is still practice squad eligible and as the 3rd QB IS NOT GOING TO PLAY ANYWAY! With him on the PS, a roster spot is freed up for SOMEONE THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE. There is a small possibility that someone would claim Henson off waivers, but so what.

I’ve had that thought myself, James. What are the odds that some other team would take Henson on as a project-slim in my mind especially considering that he has been beaten out by an undrafted div II QB. I say let him sit on the PS this year and then off to Europe for his last shot to develop with some playing time. If we lose him we are out a 3rd rounder. We’ve had worse with Rogers(at least Henson played half a game).

James & Sean:

Check out Mick’s Mail http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?contentType=5&id=EE2A48CC-9E80-4EA0-32DD26446E7B4F96 . Spagnola says they won’t cut Henson (to get him to the PS), in part because it would hit the cap this year.

I don’t see that happening unless Henson does something to really piss Parcells off. they’ve got $3.5 mil in guaranteed money tied up in this guy, and no 3rd QB. I’m not seeing anything on the waiver wires that we should dump him for. I think all this practice squad talk is more for motivating Henson than anything. We’ll take 3 QBs into the season, and Henson will be one of them.

Remnat,

Good points, but I wouldn’t worry about Keyshawn and Bledsoe. Not yet anyway, because Parcells knows what he has there.

So far out of the preseason, Parcells hasn’t tipped his hand much at all. Not eveb attempting to stretch the field, very little matching up defensively, and not much blitzing either.

James,

You may have a nice idea there with Henson. Patrick Crayton could be the emergency QB, if need be. I doubt it will happen though.

corey simon was released today from the beagles, and mortenson said peter warrick will be released by the end of the week. if theres a wr id look at its him, alot of upside.

EricR,

Never gonna happen with Henson and Crayton. Too much money and time invested in him. They could have done the same thing with Dantzler, but chose not to.

Mike,

Looking at Warrick is not a bad idea, but only for the right price. You’ve got your first 4 set at WR. I think Copper and maybe Crowder make it if they take 6 WRs, and that’s a big IF. Warrick has some years on him, and unless he wants to play for the veteran minimum, I don’t see much upside to him over anyone we have now.

Rob2:

I’d still like Morgan to have the light switch on and “get it” but I guess that’s wishful thinking. It’s definitely KJ, TGlenn, Crayton, Copper as the top 4. I still think Morgan can be the 4th WR in that set with Copper and Crowder as 5 and 6.

I also heard the comment during the game that it would take “nerve” to have two 30-something WRs as starters and two rookies behind them with no other WR with NFL experience. There is something to that.

We’ll see come the first round of cuts later in the week.

Troy Edwards Q&A at NFL Players.com:

http://www.nflplayers.com/players/player.aspx?id=26983&section=qa

Player for player, I’ll take the Cowboys over the Eagle players any day except QB. Do you disagree?

Raul,

So would I. I had high hopes for the guy because of the speed he has. I will NEVER believe that the trade for him was anything more than a bonehead move, so I won’t even argue that point with anyone, but since he’s a member of the Cowboys, I want to see him do well. My confidence in him is shaken at this point, but I won’t give up hope as long as he is with the team.

I also heard that comment about the “nerve”. I also heard them say that Parcells HAS that kind of nerve. If we can get Warrick or someone of his talent level for minimal payment, it might be worth it to get rid of Morgan, but I too will wait and see what happens. There will be a lot of guys who get shown the door soon.

I’d also take Dawkins, Owens, Kearse, their CBs, and half their offensive line.

Raul Villaronga
Who are the two rookies behind them?? Crayton and Copper played last year.

Remnant-Could you see it happening if Bledsoe goes down for an extended time in order to free up a roster spot for a vet (don’t know who at this point) that could come in and drive the bus. So far I trust Romo to ddrive the bus(along with some expected growing pains for him) but I don’t think Henson is even ready for that. We have cap space for that hit if we have to take it-$3.5 over what was Henson’s contract-6 years so we get a $2mm hit give or take. If the light isn’t coming on by the end of the season and we have the cap room we should go ahead and dump him to save cap room for next year.

Goldie,

I love your enthusiasm for the players. I just wish I could share it. Player for player, I still think we get our asses handed to us, at least this year. I think we’ll get Philly’s attention this year, but I don’t think we’re ready to overtake them just yet. I like our potential a lot. I just don’t see us taking them out just yet. I firmly believe that 2 years from now, we will be looking behind us to find them, but right now, they are too talented and too well managed for a palyer for player takeover.

Prime spots:,

QB – We’re not in the same league with them.
Offensive line – We’re closing in on them, but not there yet.
WR – I’ll give you a push on that one, but only because they have no one right now opposite TO.
RB – Please. We own that one.
TE – Again, we take that one.

I think the difference here is at QB and the offensive line. We do match up well with them everywhere else on offense.

Until I see more from the defense, I’ll hold off on making any firm player to palyer assessments, but I don’t think we’re there yet with them here either, simply because they make fewer mistakes than we do, and they are better in the passing game across the middle. We’re still getting picked apart there.

I think we’ll be looking at a different team on both sides of the ball in a year or two. One that I think will over take the iggles.

AW

At this point, I like Copper better than Morgan. I’d let him have a shot at the 4th receiver sopt, but I’m not the coach.

I think that Troy Edwards and Tim Rattay teamed at La Tech to rewrite all passing/receiving records in College Football.
However, I’m also pretty sure that Edwards is a total head case and despite his incredible speed, he’s just not worth it.

Rob2
Its not a push at WR they are better.

Rob2
I haven’t seen enough of Copper to say he is better than Morgan. Morgan is looking bad right now because he lost the 3 spot. He still has some skills. I still think next year KJ or Glenn needs to be gone. And daft a WR or get a young one.

Sean, yes, if Bledsoe goes down for 4+ games before the Cowboys are knocked out of playoff contention, then all bets are off on cutting Henson. But who would they bring in? Not like there are decent QBs out there just waiting for a call. And cutting Henson to sign Testaverde or some other “veteran” sounds like moving backwards to me. If both Bledsoe and Romo go down, then I want to see Henson, if for no other reason than to show Jerry once and for all that the guy’s a lost cause.

I love the Cowboys (obviously), but they will not be even close to the Super Bowl this year. So let’s ask the question: why waste time on older veterans who won’t even be around next year? In fact, later this season we’ll likely be discussing whether it was a mistake to sign Bledsoe for this exact reason.

I’m not sure I’m ready to say he’s better, but from what I’ve seen, he has the better hands. A receiver can have all the speed in the world, but unless he can catch, he’s of no use to us. That’s why we no longer have Randal Williams, who by the way, is now catching nearly everything thrown at him.

You never know what a player might do in the right situation, which is why I’m still hesitant to give up on a guy like Henson. He has the tools, and with a little time, could prove a lot of his critics wrong. If he does, I’d like to see him do it in a Cowboy uniform.

Couldn’t disagree with you more about KJ and Glenn. Right now, they’re the best we’ve got. They’ll serve us well for another few years, whether it be in the starting lineup or not, but don’t worry, next year’s receiving class is supposed to be better than this year’s. We’ll get one then. Let’s keep the vets around until we get another stud in camp and going.

Goldie,

we are so far behind Philly at QB that we can’t even begin to make your arguement.

Reggie Harrell released…

Remnant-I don’t see anybody else out there either but for arguments sake I could be for signing a temporary fix at QB if for no other reason than to continue the development of the team. If we get all the pieces surrounding the QB position then we can plug in the QB of the future in a fertile field so to speak. (think Rothlesburger) Thats why I see the argument for it not being a waste of time.

Rob2
Glenn wasn’t starting until we got him he is a #3 now. Being in the #3 spot might help him play a full season. KJ is not the same player anymore, he can’t get deep. “They serve us well for another few years” No they can’t. The way Crayton is going he should be starting next year. One of the old guys needs to be gone next year so the young guys can play.

AW,

Am I missing something? When did Glenn go to #3? Who is #2? Hey, Glenn is healthy now, and playing well. I don’t see anyone taking his spot. You want to argue Keyshawn, go ahead, but bring me someone better, especially going across the middle. Crayton is doing very well, but let’s not send him to Canton yet. You’ve got 2 proven veterans, and YES, they can, serve us well for a few more years. Watch and see.

Hey what is this a Philly blog ?I ’ll tell you what i ’ll take
all the Philly action at $10.00 per poster loser pays Rafael the 10.00
for the blog !!!

Rob2
Glenn didn’t start in Green Bay so he wasn’t a starter when we got him but the we like starting people that other teams wont start. Its a safe bet that Glenn will miss time this year he is only played in all 16 games twice. KJ is a tightend Witten get deeper then him. I said Crayton should start next year if he keeps doing what he is doing. Glenn and KJ are not #1 WR and they are not getting better so they will not become #1. If we don’t bring in a WR next year fine keep the old guys but if we do let one go.

glenn at 3, 2 cb1s would be terrence newman and henry, glenn the nickle back, i see nothing wrong with that, crayton over morgan i see no upside in morgan he`s had his chance.

Becker,
You are right. F**K Philly. Let’s wax their tail on the field .

Thank you A.T. !!!!!! Lets not forget we beat them 2 years ago
with Q at qb and Hambrick at Rb….pretty handily i might add.

ken
what are you talking about? Nobody was talking about AG?

AW

We’re making a lot of assumptions here. We don’t know that Glenn will go down this year. Is it possible? Of course it is, as it is with anyone else. I know his history, but he’s healthy right now, so that’s where we have to start. Right now, he’s top 2. Not 3. That could al change if Crayton continues to develop as we expect him to, but unless Terry gets hurt, I don’t see him Crayton taking him out this year. He already beat out Morgan, but I think that’s as far as he’ll go this year.

I’d be shocked if we didn’t pick up a receiver next year, but right now, we’ve got Key and Terry manning the starting positions. I’ve got no problem with that for now. Crayton and hopefully Morgan, will serve as their backups. Say what you will about Keyshawn, but when we need a first down, and God knows we need a lot of them, this is a guy I don’t mind having go across the middle to get us one. Crayton will too, but what if HE gets hurt? It can happen.

I’m sorry, but I want my veterans out there until they show me they can’t do it anymore.

becker
pretty handily no it wasn’t it was a close game and then when we saw them again they beat us bad. But I think we can get one this year.

I think we can get one this year too if we play a near perfect game. If we don’t minimze the mistakes, they’ll kill us. If we do, I think we’ll surprise them, once. We still won’t win the division, but I’d say a 10-6 season and an appearance in the playoffs is a reasonable prediction.

Rob2
I didn’t say Crayton should start this year what I said is if he keeps doing what is doing he should start next year. The odds are that Glenn will miss time not that he wont miss time. Crayton is doing what he is doing now because he got playing time last year. Glenn hasn’t showed you he can stay out there yet. All I know is Glenn and KJ wouldnt be the top WR on any other team right now period. I would like one of them to be here for a couple of years but not both.

Ok handily for who we had at key positions which means any
kind of win.I think Philly will have problems this year and not
just with TO .Releasing Corey S. sends a bad message to any
vet on that team looking for money when his contract is up.

Okay, which one? And why? You have upside from both players. Who would you rather see there? Are we talking about any random draftee from next year, or a guy who is on the team now? Who would you start Crayton over?

I’ve got no problem with Crayton starting next year. Check out what I said. I said that Key and Terry would serve us well for the next few years, whether it be in the starting lineup or not. Neither of them may be starting next year, but they will both still be capable of serving this team well. My point is, it’s not time to send these guys out yet with nothing behind them.
If you started Crayton and, well, anybody else next year, wouldn’t you rather have Key and Terry as backups over what we have right now? I know I would.

To hear some talk when a player reaches the age of 30 they should be jettisoned for someone who has no experience and great potential. Most teams are a combination of grizzled old veterans and some young bucks learning behind them and contributing whenever they can. In some cases, generally at running back, you see a youngster who can play from the start. Very few players come into the league with the skills or the brain power to start at the Professional level. We have drafted WR in the past that were a long in ability and short in team work. I hate to use New England as an example, but they do what they do with less than awesome talent. T.O. and Moss are great athletes, Vick has great moves for a running back, but none have been able to subjugate their talent for the team. It is all about what they can do, not about what the team does. Talent is special and something we all desire, but hard work and dedication to a goal are the secrets to winning. Just the musing of an long time Cowboy fan.

Gotta run for a bit. Be back in 30 minutes. Catch you guys then.

Aw,
Aren’t you the guy who likes J.P. losman???
I didn’t realize Sam Wyche was Buff. QB coach he
is excellent.I heard Simms say Losman wasn’t doing
well during the Denver telecast but he added he hasn’t
seen him play.Just curious if you have seen him play?

THE KIND OF PLAYER ROMO IS- (Did ya’ll notice…?)

Late in Saturday’s game, when RB THOMPSON was hurting during “his” series and wanting to sit (he was tapping his helmet and looking toward the sideline), ROMO kept saying to him to hang in there and to hang tough. He told Thompson that Parcells just wanted to see what he was made of.

He was mentoring the kid; encouraging him- and Thompson responded.

That’s on-the-field coaching and LEADERSHIP. Not a bad quality for a QB, right?

MEREDITH was the same way….

AW:

“Glenn didnâ€â"¢t start in Green Bay so he wasnâ€â"¢t a starter when we got him but the we like starting people that other teams wont start.”

First, get your facts straight, fact is, he was injured in the year he spent in Green Bay, a groin injury, and fact is that he did played there in 15 games and started 14. But you’re right on that he gets injured often, but he made 800+ yards on that injured season and I wouldn’t mind that, you know?

Rob2:

I’m too on the Keyshawn and TGlenn bandwagon, they are pretty good at what they do, when they’re healthy, and for those guys that say that Key isn’t a 1st WR anymore a number to ponder: 14 yards per catch, a number that’s comparable to those of Joe Horn (14.9), Torry Holt (14.6), Chad Johnson (13.4), Isaac Bruce (14.5) and many others. Pretty elite company, isn’t it?

I don’t think B.P. will draft a wideout with Dallas’s #1 pick.
He never has and a dispute with Kraft over the drafting
of Terry Glenn eventually led to him leaving N.E. .I think
he feels you tie up too much cap money in the position
and by the number of quality wideouts cut these past
years(not mention the number of 1st round wideout busts)
he seems to be right.
More likely will be a trade down out of the 1st round.

How often does Keyshawn get the ball or make the catch? Hell, if a guy catches ONE pass a game for 14 yards each, he’s got a 14 yard average….

ALSO, Keyshawn is NOT the go-to guy he once was. Regardless of his stats (who cares?), he doesn’t take over games and doesn’t have the speed to spread the field. Defenses DON’T fear Keyshawn….

That being said, he’s GOOD, and I’m glad we have him, but we need to draft a stud WR next year- no doubt.

But I would really want to a guy with Keyshawn skills being drafted next year, because after seeing Key playing last year I realized how much we have missed a WR that can catch anything thrown his way even if it means getting himself all over the Corner or Safety.

So look for a tall and physical guy to be drafted, Crayton is on Glenn mold.

…or maybe we could trade Morgan to Clevelend for Antonio Bryant… :)

kidding.

Rob2
You can’t have Glenn and KJ as backup because they aren’t going to play special teams. Today as backup yes next year a lot can change young players get better. Who would have know last year Crayton would be the #3. Depending on what Crayton does this year if he is getting deep often then I would cut Glen if he is the guy on 3rd down then I would cut KJ. But if he shows he can do both then I would cut KJ. He can already get deeper than KJ. I would like to draft a WR high meaning first 3 rounds that could come in at the 3 spot or just start. They are out there. The best way to learn and get better is out there on the field.

Tommy
I don’t have a problem with a players over 30 but two yes with one of them that can’t play a full season. Glenn and KJ are not what they were. The only thing Glenn can do better is play all 16 games. KJ can’t out due what he did last year.

becker
Im not the guy who like JP I havent seen him play. I just know they let Bledsoe go for him because Bledsoe is not a starter anymore.

maddrich:

He made 69 catches for 963 yards in 15 games, he made a catch in the last game for 18 yards and he broke his ankle. And those numbers with an injured knee, he had his knee scoped after the season. But I won’t say that those numbers could have been better if healthy, because that would be a big if, but he averaged 4.6 passes for 64.2 yards a game and those are pretty good numbers, numbers for a 1027 yards season. And he was double teamed most of the season after Glenn injury, so he was neutralized at times.

maddrich:

He made 69 catches for 963 yards in 15 games, he made a catch in the last game for 18 yards and he broke his ankle. And those numbers with an injured knee, he had his knee scoped after the season. But I won’t say that those numbers could have been better if healthy, because that would be a big if, but he averaged 4.6 passes for 64.2 yards a game and those are pretty good numbers, numbers for a 1027 yards season. And he was double teamed most of the season after Glenn injury, so he was neutralized at times.

Sorry for the double posting, my connection is having some problems.

Aw,
Sorry for the confusion I thought you lived near Buff .

Chandus
double teamed most of the seson after Glenn was out??? are you sure about that? KJ had a good year I dont see that happening again. KJ is a tightend. Out of the WR you listed I would take them all over KJ, they can get deep.

Yes, I’m sure, you can look up for film on the games, he was often covered by the corner and a safety, opposing teams were comfortable with taking some chances on the other side after Glenn injury. And how else do you think that Witten had the numbers he had? If he had been covered by the LB and a Safety, he wouldn’t have been single covered as much as he was… Or the safeties were partying somewhere else?

And of course those guys I mentioned can get deep, with the exception of Bruce, who now is more of a posesion receiver. But you also need to know that those deep throws tend to increase the average per catch and still they made almost the same number as a slow footed posesion receiver as Keyshawn is. There’s a misconception, you should take note of that, stats don’t say all you need to know.

But we do agree on that there’s a need of young blood infusion, again look up to next draft for a player on Keyshawn mold, that would mean a faster Keyshawn, but not a blazing star, just a guy that can catch almost everything thrown his way and brave going to middle field.

Okay, I’m back. Glad to see you guys are still on topic. Hey, let’s see what these guys do this year before we go calling for their heads. AW, what will you say if Keyshawn has another year like last year? What about if Terry stays healthy all year? Are you going to call for their dismissal next year?

Crayton, provided he stays healty, will have a great year. He makes me not miss Bryant so much. By the way, Bryant is kicking much @ss out there with the Browns. They should have one of the best 3 WR tandems in the league this year, along with Detroit.

Anyway, back to the subject. When all is said and done this year, I doubt you guys will be calling for their heads. I do agree with what Becker said about Parcells not drafting a WR with the #1 pick. It doesn’t seem likely because of his history. I think that the offense will drive the draft next year, and a WR might come to us in the 2nd round. We’ll see.

Chandus,

I think Parcells will look for a blazer next year. He does like speed. From what I hear, there are quite a few coming out then.

Rob2:

And still, Parcells also knows the value that a posesion receiver brings, he drafted Keyshawn first overall in 1996, and that after fighting with Kraft for that Glenn incident. And Parcells doesn’t have another posesion receiver, so there’s the need, Keyshawn isn’t getting any younger.

Chandus
You are right stats don’t tell the whole story KJ stats don’t tell the full truth on him. Nobody fears him or think he can get deep this longest pass last year was 39 yards. With KJ in It looks like we are running a 3 tightend set

Rob2
If we get a stud next year I would part ways with one of them.

AW:
Well, then he makes almost as much as Gonzo does, and Gonzo is the best TE in the league, so I wouldn’t mind, yards are yards.

And Gonzo is feared, you know, he’s feared.

Yes he is but KJ is not feared. Let me put it this way 800 yards from KJ this year looks different from 800 yards from Crayton this year. I’m not saying Crayton will get this. The reason it would look different is because Crayton and any other young player is going to get better. KJ has had his best years. He can’t do anything this year that he hasn’t done. KJ and Witten both benefited from all of the WR going down. Witten was a probowler not KJ. I don’t expect any of them to get over 900 yards if everybody can play all 16.

Guys,

We seem to be having enough trouble just getting first downs right now. Keyshawn can get us first downs. He doesn’t drop passes like some of our guys. If we get our yards 10 – 20 at a clip on passes to him, we still get what we need. Keyshawn doesn’t have to get deep. That’s what Terry is for. Crayton too, but he’ll also go over the middle the way Key does. I think he’s got a little bit of both guys in him. He’s a keeper.

We’ll get someone next year, and start grooming him for the starting position the year after, is my guess. Soon, you may see Crayton, and the yet unknown stud we draft in the starting lineup, but I see that as a two year situation. I don’t think we see wholesale changes as the position this year or next.

I know this is off the subject, but what do you think are the chances of Da Boyz going after Corey Simon DT of the Eagles. With Furgeson still out a rotation of Glover, Ferguson and Simon would be monstrous!

I don’t think it’s going to happen. Gotta pay Simon. You’re right though, Simon and Ferguson would be a monster tandem, but what do you do with Glover? I know he can do other things, but I think we’ve got enough guys on defense to sustain us for a while to come. We’ll be okay.

Would be a monster lineup, but Simon WILL NOT work for the veteran minimum.

Dont want or need Simon on this team, we have a great mix and depth of youth and veterans on the D-line and another vet would only stunt the growth and take away playing time of the young players on the D-line and actually cause a cut of one at that position, enough of the off the rack players. At some point you have to go with what you have.Now, if a decent wideout was available, since Morgan is iffy, but he’ll make the team since he’s the only one with experience after Glenn and KJ on this team.

AW:

“The reason it would look different is because Crayton and any other young player is going to get better. KJ has had his best years. He canâ€â"¢t do anything this year that he hasnâ€â"¢t done.”

I guess you weren’t saying the same from Michael Irvin, right? Because in his last years he wasn’t what he used to, but could still make the 1000 yard mark. If that’s your point of view, well, I’m no man to change it, but you’re wrong.

omg kj is good, no hes not a deep threat. does both of your wr need to be a deep threat? id rather have 1 who will catch anything thrown to him. he does what he needs to do block hell do it, go over the middle, hell do it. no hes not a speedster but he catches the damn ball.

There’s only one reason for which I would want Simon, and that’s that he would love to take McNabb head off, just as a statement to Philly’s staff and front office. But our Cowboys would also love to do just that…

We will not get Simon. He wants too much money, and we already have enough guys to man the D-Line. We need help at LB, not on the line.

Keyshawn will be on the team for the next two years, same with Terry, provided they stay healthy, because even if we get a stud WR next year, very few make an instant impact. Fewer still last as long as KJ and TG, regardless if TG is oft injured. You always need some veteran presence at most positions.

How many WRs drafted in the first round are busts? Quite a few! Same for QB, so before you run Henson out of town, realize that this guy was a “Third Round” pick for us, and he was out of football for a while. Now, I’m not to impressed with Jerry’s penchant for baseball players as QBs, but let’s at least give him a chance to prove himself. I’ll admit that he’s taking longer than I expected, but that’s why we signed Bledsoe.

Oh, baseball players can become great QBs, like John Elway, but there aren’t too many like him! Elway was drafted out of High School by the Kansas City Royals, but chose to go to Stanford. He was also drafted by the Yankees out of college, but that’s where any similarities to Henson end. He stayed with football and didn’t miss a step, and Henson decided to play baseball and his football skills regressed. Unfortunately, it’s costing the Cowboys time and money to see if he still has it. The jury is still out!

AW,

KJ is not a speed burner, but has size, and he catches the ball, especially across the middle, where many WRs fear to tread. Steve Largent wasn’t a speed burner and Fred Biletnikoff wasn’t either, but they’re both in the HOF!

KJ will play in this league for a while longer. The speed guys usually don’t last as long. So, even if you make KJ a TE, as long as he can run his routes and catch, he’ll be around, whether it’s with Dallas or elsewhere.

Regardless, you still need a tandem of speed and posession receiver, ala Irvin/Harper, Rice/Taylor, Clayton/Duper, Pearson/Johnson, Branch/Biletnikoff, Swann/Stallworth, Holt/Bruce, Glenn/Johnson……. Oh it doesn’t hurt to have a good tight end as well…… Witten? Campbell? Hey we have TWO! ;-)

Allright fellas, I’ve been holding my tongue. As things stand now, here is my 53 man roster on opening day (starters listed first):

SS-Williams, Beriault.

FS-Davis, Scott.

OLB- Burnett, Ware, Singleton, Thornton.

ILB-Nguyen, Shanle, James, Fowler.

DT/NT- Ferguson, Glover, “Pepper”, Carson.

DE- Spears, Ellis, Canty, Coleman, Ratliff.

CB-Henry, Newman, A. Glenn, Reeves, Thornton.

OL-Adams, Allen, A. Johnson, Rivera, Pettiti, Vollers, Gurode, Peterman, Walter.

WR- K. Johnson, T. Glenn, Crayton, Crowder, Copper.

TE-Witten, Campbell, Robinson, Ryan.

FB-Polite.

TB- Jones, Barber, Thompson, Thomas

QB- Bledsoe, Romo.

PK-Cortez.

P-McBriar

Ryan is probably wishful thinking, as Beriault MIGHT be, because of their injuries. If so, replace them with Pierce and Coady respectively. I omitted Henson on purpose. I say put him on the practice squad. If someone gets injured, there will be more than enough time to activate him.

Yes, I am sick to death of Jerry J’s $#@^%$# baseball players taking up up roster and cap space.

James,
I would make these changes to your lineup, otherwise, looks good

Scott will be replaced by Coady
Pepper, practice squad.cant justify 9 d-linemen
Cant have just 2 quarterbacks, Henson will make it, not ready for the NFL at all though.contract guaranteed
Morgan makes the team, only reciever with experience. If Glenn goes down with injury, would you be happy with Crowder as the third wideout??? not me.

Now, all that being said I realize that by waiving Henson and putting him on the PS, we could very well become responsible for his entire contract; which we don’t want to do either. So, if we MUST keep him on the 53, go ahead and cut A-Train. We need to keep a FB so that we can run out of I and pro-set formations. If BP wants to keep A-Train, might I suggest using “Pepper” or Carson as the FB in such situations.

There are 4 players we MUST keep because they will never clear waivers for the PS. They are, Beriault, “Pepper”, Thompson, and Ratliff.

3 players I would try to trade for something rather than just cutting them are A-Train, Ogbogu, and Morgan. (Piss on Morgan, he has had his chance! As many posters have suggested, we could surely sell him to Seattle; they seem to like recievers that drop the ball.)

There are some guys that might end up on IR (Beriault, Barber, Ryan etc.), that could change the whole mix. BP ain’t BS’n when he says the final cuts are a headache for him this year.

Derrick,
Forgot to mention that I chose Copper over Morgan because Copper has shown himself to be a reliable special-teamer. Morgan has not. I understand your concerns about depth and experience with our WR’s though.

James,
When bill states,the final cuts are a headache for him, it means we actually have alot of depth in certain areas for a change which makes the decisions tough to get to the 53 man roster.

A few responses:

McNabb is a great QB, but he’s not God. I think our QB happens to have a little Super Bowl experience himself (he might even have a ring – don’t tell me he isn’t as good has he was 3 years ago – Buffalo just sucks – I remember playing them twice).

We will sweep the Eagles this year. Call me crazy now and eat crow later.

We will beat them with sheer guts and pride at home, and we will beat them away after having the bye week to rest.

If we try to put Henson on the practice squad, he will be claimed faster that you can say “Imisstroyaikman.”

KJ is a GREAT possesion receiver. If you don’t get that….. well, sorry (let’s hope they give him the damn ball).

This blog rocks!

big Jim,

‘McNabb is a great QB, but heâ€â"¢s not God’.

What??? Forget about GOD,Mcnabb’s not even a GREAT quarterback,This guy is so overated.I have never seen a quarterback throw so many balls at the feet of his recievers and disappear for three quarters in a game.If Mcnabb was on an average team, you would hear alot of people say, he doesn’t have what it takes to be a great quarterback, he’s lucky to have the supporting staff around him that makes him look better than he is.

Derrick:

I will defend McNabb, at least he’s a little better than Culpepper… seriously, that guy can really throw some awful balls, I haven’t seen a better marriage than the one he had with Moss, the guy could avoid the embarrasment of his QB with some miraclous catchs. Culpepper will miss him now the marriage is over… but the rest of the team will be happier.

Big Jim:

I second your thought on Henson, with the addition that we wouldn’t even get to say troy before we realized that our pants are already down.

Henson is a 3rd round pick who happens to have changed his mechanics this year, usually a 3rd round QB takes more time than a 1st Round, and more if the guy hasn’t played any football in 3 years, the guy has the arm, I wouldn’t like to see him flourish in a QB friendly team.

And this blog really rocks.

Chandus,

Have you seen Culpepper in the preseason? I was one of the doubters before I saw him spreading the rock all over the field. I think the team is much more balanced on offense without Moss.

I know it’s only pre-season,but so far against supposed playoff teams,the cowboys defense has allowed only 32 points after 3 games,the lowest of ANY team in the NFL at this point………encouraging!

Why do people think that Thomas Johnson would not clear waivers? What has he done in a preseason game that would cause some other team to replace someone already on their own roster with Johnson? It’s not that Johnson has played poorly. It’s just that he has not ‘stood out’. I don’t think he has played all that much better than Chris Van Hoy in the preseason games. That scrimmage and all those good practice sessions don’t count. Teams don’t have any tapes of them. Remember that Johnson was undrafted. An undrafted rookie has to show an awful lot in preseason (like Dantzler did) for any team to claim him. Johnson has just not had any Dantzler-like moments to bring him to the attention of the other teams. Dozens of players just like Johnson will be released over the next week. Very few will be claimed. In my opinion, both he and Van Hoy would easily clear waivers.

James,

They won’t put Barber on IR. All he has is a cut on the bottom of his foot. I believe the problem that Parcells is facing right now, is that he doesn’t quite know what he has in Barber. That makes any decision on Thomas (like cutting him) risky. But Barber will make the team.

Beriault could go to IR, but only if they decide to operate on his knee. They are trying to figure out now if they can ‘manage’ his injury. If Beriault reacts well to the rest he has been given, he will make the team. Otherwise, they operate and he goes to IR.

I don’t think they would place Ryan on IR, either. He either makes the team, or he will be released. Since Ryan hasn’t played a preseason game, hasn’t made a name for himself, and is coming off injury, I doubt that any other team would claim him if he were cut. [He made it through waivers last year, and hasn’t done anything of substance since then. And Ryan was actually drafted!] We could then place him on the practice squad, and promote him if needed. That would make a lot more sense than paying him for twiddling his thumbs all year on IR, when his injury doesn’t warrant it.

I don’t know of anything Thomas Johnson has done, except have one good scrimage. It’s the ability to distinguish what’s real and what is not that seperates the homers from the rest.

Or the inability rather.

Guys,

Any mention of cutting Henson or placing him on the practice squad is a waste of time. It ain’t gonna happen. Hell, Parcells still won’t name Romo as the backup yet. (Cowboysplus.com) Besides, Jerry Jones likes this kid, and let’s not forget that little $3.5 mil investment they made in him. Henson is not going anywhere until he proves he can’t do it, or until we draft another guy who beats him out. Like it or not, they’re going to give this guy every chance in the world. If we let this guy go to the practice squad, make no mistake, he WILL get claimed by someone else. If he turns out to be what Jones and company thought he was, we’ll look like the biggest idiots alive for letting him go. Not gonna happen.

At least we’ll get to see Spears out on the field this time around.

Chandus,

Not to be picky but B. Parcells did not draft Keyshawn Johnson.
Key was drafted several years before B.P. arrival at the jets
and up to that point Key had been quite a disruptive force on
the team.Many people predicted fireworks with Bills arrival
but it turned out ok.
Interestingly B.P. as the jets Gm is one who traded
Key to Tampa for two #1s.

Have you guys seen this foolishness about Maurice Clarett?

“Teams that may consider Clarett include Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Cleveland, St. Louis and Dallas. The Rams and Cowboys considered taking him as early as the fourth round of the draft.”

I don’t think so. Not now.

Life is good when the biggest concerns appear to be the kicker and the speed/age of the veteran wideouts.

I disagree. If the Cowboys miss the playoffs this year, it will not be because of Key, Glenn, or Henson. This offense is built around running and play action, and thus around line play, while the defense is built around having linemen protect linebackers, who then make plays.

Ware is inexperienced, and there is nothing behind him. Burnett is out of position, and Singleton is in the wrong scheme for him. Dat will get worn down taking on guards every play, James is a flat bust, and Shanle and Fowler are former practice squad projects. The team has a big hole at LB that they will have to try to disguise all year, unless someone steps up in a big way.

On the other side, Flozell has been getting beaten consistently all summer, starting with Ware in camp. Petitti is talented, but will make rookie mistakes. There are two centers, which probably means there is no one dominant one. Allen and Rivera are older, and Rivera has been injured.

I think the team can make the playoffs in the NFC this year, but probably get no farther, if they avoid key injuries. There are holes, though, that will need to be addressed next year before WR or 3rd QB, unless somebody has more in them than they have shown yet.

Now this REALLY PISSED ME OFF! This is a comment from Eric Moneypenny

“I really like Dallas’ rookie free agent running back Tyson Thompson. Thompson has good size (6-1, 215) and had some pretty nice lookin’ runs against Houston, finishing with 52 yards on 13 carries. He probably won’t stick this year with Dallas, but somebody should sign him immediately and send him over to NFL Europe next spring).”

How does he figure Thompson won’t make this team? If we cut Thompson, we deserve to see him with the iggles tearing us a new one.

This Eric Moneypenny writes for Fox Sports.

Rob,
Don’t get too crazy….these national writers have less of a clue
then the local guys.The reason Dallas got mentioned with Clarett
is because after the draft Parcells said he was interested in him.
I don’t think Tyson T is going to be placed on waviers not after
the houston game.

True, but that got on my nerves. I’m cool now.

Wow, all this talk about drafting WRs next year…defense looks pretty stocked, but we’ve got more holes than just that on offense.

Last year our offense was the 25th, or 8th worst at scoring.

So you’re only interested in WRs? Yes we need to draft a couple of those next year, but I’d rather see the ’Boys spend their first two picks on OL and QB.

Our OL is old-and-good backed up by average-to-mediocre youth. Need at least one young stud to shore it up. Our QBs are old-and-average backed up by average-to-mediocre youth, too. Winning without excellence at either OL or QB is nearly impossible, so I’d go there first.

But enough of the 2006 prognostications. We get to see Spears Thursday!!!

It looks as if we will have no patriarch in Dallas. Abraham has signed his franchise tender with Jersey/B. LOL!

Regarding our quarterback situation,

Has anyone noticed the similarity between how the current situation appears to be playing out and the one back in 2003?

In 2003, the fight was for the starting position between Hutchinson and Carter. It was declared an open competition, and they shared snaps equally in training camp. Then it came to the first preseason game, and neither one of them looked very good. Prior to the next game, which Carter was to start, Jones came out and said how important is was for Quincy to have a good game. He did. Hutchinson didn’t even see the field that game. Carter was awarded the job.

In my opinion, Carter was actually fighting for his place on the team. Parcells had already decided that Hutchinson was not ready to start. If Carter had not stepped up his game, the Cowboys would probably have gone outside the organization for a veteran, and dumped Carter.

Fast forward to 2005. Now, the competition is for backup. Again, both candidates, Henson and Romo, share snaps equally in training camp. The first preseason game is indecisive, with Henson and Romo both doing fairly well, but with plenty of mistakes being made. Then the second preseason game comes and neither one plays well. Romo, especially, makes another one of those deadly impulse throws that has plagued his brief career. At halftime of the next game, before either has played, Jones comes out and says that they will be patient with Henson, but that Romo needs to stop screwing up (basically). So, Romo comes out and plays well. He has command of the team, makes some very impressive throws, and, best of all, doesn’t screw up!

Of course, this could all turn completely around in the next two weeks, but I doubt it. I see it playing out the same way as in 2003. Romo had to play well, and did. If he hadn’t played well, he might well have been gone, with a veteran brought in to back up Bledsoe. But, he did play well, and looks to have sewn up the backup-QB spot. Henson, not being ready to take on that chore, will sit and wait for next year.

We just have to hope that Romo has his head screwed on a lot straighter than Carter did, and that Henson actually fulfills his potential. I think the former is a good bet. We’ll have to wait on the answer to the latter.

By the way, for those who don’t think that Henson got a fair shake, because he didn’t play in that last preseason game: thus far, Romo has thrown 24 games in the preseason, and Henson has thrown 23 (per Archer in a DMN article).

becker
i kno this is from like yesterday but jsut to clear things up, im the one who lives near buffalo.

Chandus
First of all don’t compare The Playmaker to KJ. He was called the playmaker for a reason he could do it all. KJ and TO I think are the same age now who would you rather have?? All I know is “if” we get a stud next year one of the old guy need to go because to get better you need to be on the field. Sometimes the right guy doesn’t start and it goes both way. Sometime the young guy gets to start because of money and sometimes the older guy gets to start because of his name.

The model for QBs in this league used to be to draft ‘em, let ’em hold a clipboard on 3rd string for a few years, then maybe they’d be ready to be your backup or, occasionally, starter. Why? The coaches always said that the read-and-react was tough to learn at the NFL level.

Well, since then, the NFL has sped up. And defenses have become more complex. More blitzes. More scheming. More versatility. More for QBs to read and react to. So why do QBs start so much earlier now?

The main reason has been that teams don’t have time to wait. With lots of cap space tied up in an expensive young QB, they must start him soon and hope he learns on the job. That has worked fine for some QBs (Aikman is our best example in Dallas), but not for others. Some still take time to fully grasp the offense. Drew Brees comes to mind here.

Could Henson be our Drew Brees? He has the arm and scored in the top 10% on the Wonderlic (football’s IQ test). In college, he was known for his accuracy (particularly deep balls). In his final college season (2000), he had a 61% completion percentage and 18 touchdowns with just 4 interceptions in 237 pass attempts. Not bad. Nowadays, he looks lost in the pocket and has struggled at times with his accuracy. Perhaps they have overworked his throwing mechanics, which were retooled at the end of last season. But he’s also 25 now. How much time do we give him?

So this year we won’t go to the Super Bowl, we’ll probably miss the playoffs (I hope we make them!) and we’ll see a bunch of Drew Bledsoe being average. Maybe this gives Romo and Henson enough time to develop their skills like in the old days, or maybe it’s a waste of time, dunno.

But next year, what do we do? Start Romo? Henson? Bledsoe again? Will we win with any of those guys? Do we draft another QB? Who knows. But if this season starts going down the drain, they better get Romo or Henson in there to get a better look at them, or they won’t know what to do next year any more than we will. As Parcells keeps insisting, games are just different from practices. Faster. More chaotic.

Here’s hoping for a playoff season, but dreading the consequences on our long-term QB situation.

onepaniolo
All those WR you named could get deep maybe not a lot but they could get deep. KJ in the last couple of years longest pass has been under 40 yards. If he has a good year I will change my mind.

TO was born Dec. 7, 1973. Keyshawn was born July 22, 1972. So KJ’s a year and a half older. They are 31 and 33, respectively.

Off topic, I heard Peter Warrick was released by the Bengals, would the cowboys be interested in picking him up?

AW:

I wasn’t comparing KJ and Irvin, it was the thing that you said that got into my nerves: “KJ has had his best years. He canâ€â"¢t do anything this year that he hasnâ€â"¢t done.” Yes, Irvin could still get deep in his last years, but he wasn’t the same as in his previous years, so in the logic you described there, he should have been gone as soon as he wasn’t the same, I’m sorry, but there’s something wrong there. And barrying any injury, he will have another good year.

becker:

You’re right, I forgot that Parcells wen to NY/b in 1997 and KJ was drafted in 1996. But still, he gave him the damn ball 70, 83 and 89 times in 3 years, those are first rounder numbers.

Everyone:

No one’s mentioning Ogbogu on the roster, I’ve been thinking on something for a while now, what if in first downs Ware is neutralized by a TE splitting wide on the same side? We are caught with our pants down, right? That’s what Dallas used to do in the early 90’s against NY/a and LT, splitting wide Novacek, LT had to get open too, and that way NY best pass rusher was out of the play, giving Aikman more time to throw to the other side or giving Emmith the ball and run left. Now, if that happens here, what do we have to pass rush from the other side? Burnett? Singleton? They could sack the QB, if they get there running straight, they don’t have the ability to get around the Tackle and cut right without falling down, those are rare qualities… So who has that? Ellis does have some, but not much. So that leaves us with Ogbogu, who might me a liability in coverage, but can certainly get to the QB and tackle in run support. I’ll say it again, we keep Ogbogu, and he will play more than what people think. Unless, something so good to not let it pass comes in the form of a trade.

david:

I don’t think so, Troy Edwards has been better in the form of a third WR than Warrick and still we haven’t heard the interest of the Cowboys, I guess that we’ll face the season with what we have on the roster, not that I’m complaining, but some do.

Peerless price was released today, I’d think he would be a better option as a third or fourth reciever. Atlanta tried to make him a number one reciever, I think he was better suited as a second reciever as a stretch the field reciever.

Warrick is only 5’11 and is not all that fast, was overrated coming out of college

there willl be a special team announcement at 12:30 central during Parcells press conference on dallascowboys.com daily radio show

Jeff,

cuts of two players to get down to 69 players

Peerless Price can play, when he was in buffalo playing behind moulds he lit up the field because he had some protection, but in atlanta he was the 1 receiver and saw more double teams. he is absolutly a better option than warrick, but peerless will want some money. if we picked him up it would be a huge boost to our receiving corps

Michael Irvin ran a 4.7 40. Yes he could get deep but not without somone up in his grill. It was his size and soft hands that made him what he was. His speciality was the slant and going over the middle. Physically even Irvin, and I know this will crush the homers here, can’t hold Owens jock strap.

Cash,

Irvin ran a 4.55. And he had TWO seasons where he averaged more than 20 yards per reception. The man could get down the field. Now, I know you’re actually sticking up for him, but I really resent the fiction that he ran a 4.7. (Something, BTW, advanced by the DMN boys. Nice when your hometown writer doesn’t give you any love.)

Quick, who’s got the best yards per reception average for a career? Sterling Sharpe, Tim Brown, Andre Reed, Herman Moore, Jerry Rice or Michael Irvin?

If you said Irvin, buy yourself a beer.

rector and love got cut

Sorry, I’ve been out of the loop. Rector and Love cut today, or yesterday? Who are the other two cut, or are we still waiting for today’s announcement?

Blue cheese,

those were the cuts today, we are now down to 69

blue cheese,

lenny Williams and Reggie Harrell were cut yesterday

Raf,

can you source your 40 time?

I have a source here that he ran a 4.55 out of college, I doubt he kept that pace through out his career and can not remember at any time seeing him breaking away down field from a CB.

http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/webspecials/michaelirvin/042588irvin.html

Chandus
No No No. When a great player fells off like The Playmaker he is still better than most. Now when a good player fells off he is not better than most. Do you understand? KJ is good for this year but we need an upgrade. Teams are going to fear Witten and JJ not KJ and Glenn.

AW, then tell me why KJ was getting double teamed last year and not Witten?

Cash,

Micheal Irvin had atleast 13 touchdowns out of his 65 Tds in his career over 35 yards, the longest being 87 yards

Cash wrote:

“I can not remember at any time seeing him breaking away down field from a CB.”

Watch him much from ’88 through ’95? I can think of lots of plays. A bomb against the Rams in ’90. Two long receptions against the Falcons in the ’91 finale. Irvin consistently getting deep and beating double teams in the ’94 championship loss to the 49ers. Him schooling Deion deep on the “non-interference” play in the same game. He may have slowed at the end of his career, but I can recall off the top of my head that he scored two TDs in the last minutes of the ’99 season opener to help lead a comeback against the Redskins — his final season. The first was a fade. The second was a post. Both beat Darryl Green, who was hardly slow.

Derrik, that says nothing about where the ball was caught.

Raf, if you are going to sit on here and tell me that Irvin was a deep threat due to his speed and not his size, I’m done discussing it. Go on believing that if you wish. And your also trying to tell me he out ran Darrel Green. He may have caught the ball over him but, out run Green? A 4.2 40 guy? Nah didn’t happen.

Rafael,

Agreed. Irvin’s specialness came from his range of abilities. He had great hands, even in traffic. He ran great routes. He created separation better than all but a few WRs ever. He was a great blocker for a WR. And he had very good speed. Since speed is last on that list, we all forget it. But watch some games on ESPN Classic, guys. He routinely beat CBs downfield because they were terrified of his sudden cuts; one fake and he’d lose them. His speed was enough that they couldn’t catch up once they bit.

He was greatness. Be a crime if his off-field activities keep him out of the HOF this year.

Cash, you have to get off the love affair with T.O and open your eyes, Micheal Irvin changed the position of the wide reciever in the NFL. T.O is an "I"guy, where Irvin was a team and all around player.

Micheal Irvin-3 superbowl rings
Terrel Owens-o superbowl rings

Year Team G Rec Yds Ave TD
1988 DAL 14 32 654 20.4 5
1989 DAL 6 26 378 14.5 2
1990 DAL 12 20 413 20.6 5
1991 DAL 16 93 1523 16.4 8
1992 DAL 16 78 1396 17.9 7
1993 DAL 16 88 1330 15.1 7
1994 DAL 16 79 1241 15.7 6
1995 DAL 16 111 1603 14.4 10
1996 DAL 11 64 962 15.0 2
1997 DAL 16 75 1180 15.7 9
1998 DAL 16 74 1057 14.3 1
1999 DAL 4 10 167 16.7 3
Totals 159 750 11904 15.9 65

And for the record, here’s the article the DMN ran when the Cowboys drafted Irvin. http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/webspecials/michaelirvin/042588irvin.html

It says, “And Irvin (6-2, 198), who runs 4.55 for the 40 and has been compared to San Francisco’s Jerry Rice, was probably happier than the Cowboys. He’s more of an intermediate receiver than a flyer such as Sherrard, but he’s extremely dangerous after the catch.”

He was one of the best receivers ever, and he absolutely changed the game. Since him, every team has been looking for a big, physical “playmaker” WR who can fight for a ball, create space, and essentially do a reasonable Michael Irvin impersonation.

Cash:

We do agree on that of KJ, he was double teamed for most of the season, Witten started calling he attention of the Safeties late in the season, but he also had blocking duties, so when he stayed on the line, the safety made his way to KJ. Why in heaven’s name would a team do that if they weren’t afraid of the guy? If they weren’t afraid of the guy, the safeties would line up close to the line to close up the running game or they would just blitz every play, killing Testaverde.

But we don’t agree on Irvin subject, how old were you from 1988 and 1999? Maybe you don’t remeber what we do…

Cash
I’m still not sure about KJ being double teamed because he is not a deep treat. Most if not all Tightends are not doubled teamed. Tell why KJ didn’t go to the probowl last year then? The players vote if players felt they had to double team him I would think they would put him in.

Remnant:

If Irvin was “the Playmaker”, maybe Keyshawn is “the First Downer”. I know… I’m just losing my time…

Bryant glad to escape Parcells crowd
 

04:22 AM CDT on Tuesday, August 30, 2005
 

BEREA, Ohio – The Cleveland Browns made wide receiver Braylon Edwards the third overall selection of the 2005 draft and gave him a $40 million contract.

But the Browns did not give him a starting position.

Antonio Bryant appreciated that.

“This is the type of environment I like to be in, where everyone has to compete and earn what they get,” Bryant said. “Everyone starts from ground zero.”

There was no ground zero at his previous place of employment – Valley Ranch.

Bryant won the Biletnikoff Award at Pitt as a sophomore in 2000. He left school after his junior year and became a second-round draft pick of the Cowboys. So enamored were the Cowboys with Bryant that they gave him jersey No. 88, which had been worn by franchise legends Drew Pearson and Michael Irvin.

Starting opposite veteran Joey Galloway as a rookie in 2002, Bryant led the NFC with an average of 16.7 yards per catch. He caught 44 passes and scored six touchdowns. It was the best rookie season by a Cowboys receiver since Bob Hayes in 1965. Bryant’s future looked bright in Dallas.

Then the Cowboys hired Bill Parcells as coach in 2003. He traded for Terry Glenn, who played for Parcells at New England in the mid-1990s. Bryant lost his starting job but still caught 39 passes and scored a pair of touchdowns.

Then Parcells traded for Keyshawn Johnson in 2004. Johnson also played for Parcells, with the New York Jets in the late 1990s. Like Glenn, Johnson was penciled in as a starter the day he arrived.

“I can understand a coach of his caliber having guys that he trusts more than others,” Bryant said. "But don’t say all the positions are open, then not give people the opportunity to go out there and compete. I’m a competitor.

“That’s all I can say about that situation in Dallas. I’m a competitive guy and I found myself in a situation where there was no fair competition. It was written in stone. I was never given an opportunity to take a starting job.”

That led to an on-the-field blowup during a minicamp in June 2004, when Bryant flicked his jersey at Parcells. Four months later, the Cowboys shipped Bryant to Cleveland at the trade deadline.

Bryant wound up starting eight games for the Browns and finished with a team-leading 58 catches for 812 yards and four touchdowns.

But again, Bryant watched a new coach come in. The Browns hired Romeo Crennel in the off-season – and he brought in former Cowboys offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon to serve in the same capacity in Cleveland.

Carthon remembers the jersey incident with Parcells but didn’t bring along any preconceived notions about Bryant.

“What people don’t realize is that during the heat of the moment in football, you don’t always think sensibly,” Carthon said. “There’s a lot of energy and adrenaline flowing and you may say or do things, players and coaches alike. He’s put that behind him and he’s moving on.”

Is he ever. Bryant has had the best training camp of any Cleveland receiver – “one of the better camps I’ve ever seen a receiver have,” Carthon said. “I’m excited about him this season.”

Bryant, 24, also is excited about the season.

“A lot of guys who came out with me have been to Pro Bowls already,” Bryant said. “I feel like I should have been to one of those Pro Bowls by now.”

Bryant was the No. 2 receiver in his first season and No. 3 in his second before establishing himself as the go-to guy at Cleveland. For the first time in his NFL career, he will enter a season as the focal point of a passing game.

“Most players are better when you give them an opportunity to get the football,” Carthon said. "Antonio is going to get the opportunity to get the football here. He had the opportunity in Dallas, but not as much as he will here.

“He’s someone we’re going to lean on to make plays for us. When you’ve got a Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Julius Jones and Jason Witten, it’s kind of hard to get everybody the ball. But he’s the No. 1 guy here instead of the third or fourth option in Dallas.”

Once upon a time, the Cowboys hoped Antonio Bryant would be the next Michael Irvin. Now they must hope he doesn’t become the next Jimmy Smith – a talented young receiver discarded by the Cowboys who went on to become one of the top 12 pass catchers of all time.

AW:

He wasn’t invited to the Pro Bowl because last year there were receivers with a monster season, they’re called Mushin Muhammad and Joe Horn and the backups, well, they’re called Torry Holt and Javon Walker. TO was also invited, but he was recovering from his SB effort. I won’t say that KJ is right there with them, but he’s a little behind. And I won’t try to explain to you anymore why I think he’s a little behind those guys, going deep isn’t everything for a receiver.

Chandus I’m 31, I remember quite clearly, it’s just that I don’t wear my Cowboy shades when I watch. And I never said that Owens has had as good of a career as Irvin, but as a physical specimine, he’s bigger, stronger, and faster than Irvin ever was and I’ve heard Irvin himself gush over Owens ability. Bottom line Irvin will be a Hall of Famer and Owens won’t.

KJ is slow as a snail but his size and hands give him the ability to compete. You don’t have to have speed if your big enough to use your body to sheild the defender.

Cash
Bryantt is right he wasnt going to get a chance to start with the old guys here that why one of them need to go next year…..

Chandus
Not a little behind a lot behind.

Cash
TO is bigger , stronger and faster than a lot of WR.

AW, I certainly think it shows what the problem was. While Parcells preaches competition it certainly wasn’t that way at WR. I just wish Bryant would have made it happen as the 3rd WR. He would have ended up starting last year anyway.

AW:
Yeah, right… And you’re a Head Coach or a big time Football analyst… Sure.

Cash and AW:

Parcells preaches blocking duties and perfect routes to his WR’s, Glenn and KJ are perfect examples of those, tha’s why they were starting over Bryant who had all the potential the world but was a liability in those 2 areas. Let’s see throughout the season if the Offense doesn’t start to center on Northcutt big play ability and Braylon Edwards physical ability, leaving Bryant bitching, again. You guys don’t know that, or do you have a crystal ball that says so?

Chandus
Do you have a crystal ball that said so??? I’m going by what is being said. All I know is the browns got over us on that trade more than we got over on the KJ trade with TB.

Cash
Bryant should have been starting and Glenn should have been the 3rd WR.

Nate,
My man ! How does Losman look? Have you seen him play any?
just curious…..

Chandous,
I like key and you are correct he became a great player under
Parcells ……go figure.I pointed it out because so many posters
want B.P. to draft a W.O. #1 and it isn’t going to happen….
not unless JJ over rules him.

AW:
And you’re also a math genious… “All I know is the browns got over us on that trade more than we got over on the KJ trade with TB.”

Well, KJ made 70 catches for 981 yards and AB 36 for 477 while with the Browns playing 8 games. And they already have the edge. With those numbers, throughout a whole season, he would have made 72 catches for 954 yards. So he’s behind KJ in yards and KJ played on 15 games. There’s no solid ground for your conjectures, but you’re free, wrong, but free.

And I’ll finish my case.

Peerless Price case is kind of interesting, in 2002 he made 92 catches for 1252 yards, and guess who was the QB passing him the ball? Drew Bledsoe. A one year deal might not be out of the question in this case, reuniting Price with the QB that made him look really good might motivate him to come here and make enough numbers to another high pay day. He runs good routes, he’s a liability as a blocker, but he would make a perfect 4 depth at WR (KJ, Glenn, Price and Crayton).

I bet as the #1 reciever in Clevland that Bryant will have more receptions and yards recieving by the end of the year. Assuming Dilfer stays healthy.

Also I hear that the Cowboys and NE have both called the agent of Peerless Price. Also Price had his agent get in contact with Philidelphia.

Peerless will be 30 years old in October, and he’s a known commodity. Not a great player. Just good. 5-11 190 lbs, so not big or strong. Will likely never be a good blocker because of that, so doesn’t feel like much of a fit here to me. Our offense will be built around the run.

Id rather have Price over copper, crowder, morgan.

Cash,

We have our starters for this year, right? So the question is whether Price is an upgrade for the future. And I’d rather see Copper, Morgan and/or Crowder, since they may have untapped upside.

I won’t be surprised if BP picks Price up, since he likes veterans. But if he does, it will be another step back for the future of this team. If we want a Super Bowl berth in two years, then somebody from our current crop of receivers better wind up being very good. And bringing in price means cutting one of them.

Seems like BP hates young guys on offense—even sounds that way in his press conferences. So I hope Jerry forces him to keep Crayton at #3 and get Romo or Henson some time during the year, especially if we fall out of playoff contention.

I’ll second Cash on the last point. Price was a bust in Atlanta for two reasons. Number one, he had Michael Vick throwing to him rather than Drew Bledsoe (and let’s not forget that Bledsoe put up huge numbers his first year in Buffalo when he had Moulds and Price to throw to). Second, he’s a role player. When he’s not the guy drawing primary coverage, he can get open and do some damage.

I look at him as another Terry Glenn type, which would be good to have considering how often Terry gets injured.

It will all come down to money, of course.

I’ve been gone a few hours. What was the “huge announcement” at this afternoon’s press conference? That Drew Henson and Tony Romo are still competing for the backup QB spot?

Becker,
Lossman looks pretty good, hes a scrambler which is what all the fans up here want after having Bledsoe. But hes taken his fair share of hits. at least once a week theres an article in the paper about how bledsoe is doind andt here was a great quote that described lossman and bledsoe, “bledsoe is a statue that doesnt move, and lossman is like a chicken with his head” because he can run around for hours when the protection breaks down, he will probably have some growing pains this year but i expect him to become a top 10 quarterback in a year or two.

Guys,
Peerless Price can make a play and would be an upgrade to this offense. I dont wanna hear anything about how he is a liability, when he was in buffalo you never heard him bitch about anything, he’s a good player but was on a bad team for receivers when in atlanta. Vick is too busy running around to look for his receivers thats why his numbers dropped

Chandus
What you wrote didn’t make a point. I’m not comparing Bryant to KJ they didn’t get traded for each other. Morgan might not make the team if he does he will be the 4th WR at best. Bryant is the Browns go to guy, don’t know what he will end up with but it will be a lot more then Morgan . If Morgan was still with the browns he wouldnt be the go to guy. If KJ was still with TB he wouldnt be the go to guy either. TB doesn’t care what KJ is doing but yet some Cowboy fans are still mad about the Bryant trade.

Remnant
You see the big picture.

Yeah, Rafael, I guess that was the anouncement… or was that Reggie Love didn’t made the 69? Not much out of Parcells mouth… I did liked the way he responded to the reporter that asked about the NASCAR and Ron Wolf subject and that if he was interested on entering. He said: “Who said to you that me and Ron Wolf are buddies?” In that particular East side NY tone…

Nate,
thanks for the update i hope he does well …..just never against
 the cowboys!!!
Actually its a myth that B.P. “hates” young guys on Offense
he has started a number of rookies over the years for several teams.
He just doesn’t have patience for guys who make alot of mental mistakes
and blow assignments etc.

John Clayton reported on ESPN’s NFL Live that the Dallas Cowboys have contacted Peerless Price after he was cut by the Atlanta Falcons today. Price is reportedly looking to make a quick deal with a team. No other details available.

Speaking of offensive rookies, is anybody interested in what Matt Jones does on Thursday? Henry and Newman should be able to shut him down but Jones v. Glenn would be mismatch. That was a great catch he had last week by the way.

No I’m interested in what Crayton does Thursday.

JUST HEARD DALLAS HAS JUST SIGNED JIM NOVAK, A KICKER OFF OF CHICAGO, ANYONE HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.

CORRECTION, NICK NOVAK

CASH,

IRVIN was a physical marvel and all-time WR, but it was his leadership and heart that made him a once-in-a-lifetime player.

IRVIN was spirited and competative in a constructive way- not a destructive way (see OWENS). On my Cowboys DVD set, they show footage of him talking to TROY on the bench after a bad game saying to him, “There’s a lot of football left. Don’t even worry about this. If we can’t do it now, we’ll do it again some other time, baby….”

OWENS will NEVER be like that. He’ll bash his QB and do his own thing.

And CASH, to say (physically) “IRVIN can’t hold TO’s jock strap” is just disrespectful, and WRONG I might add. Irvin was an incredible physical specimen, and he PLAYED AS BIG as any WR in the game today. His presence, physical AND emotional, was ENORMOUS on the field. He was a GIANT in ways that OWENS will NEVER be.

“Can’t hold his jockstrap” would imply a HUGE difference between Irvin and TO physically, like IRVIN was some kind of RUNT. IRVIN was the prototypical physical receiver. I can see you trying to get a reaction from the blog, but you’ve still got to think before you put down, brother, especially when you’re talking about a player who’s done so much for our beloved Cowboys.

“bigger” “stronger” and “faster” don’t mean jack if ya ain’t got heart and on-the-field leadership; when it comes to these qualities, Owens can’t hold IRVIN’S jockstrap….

Raf the press conference was pretty much about how Henson wasn’t ready,but he still didn’t name a backup….

Jake Mehofferstain, you are an idiot.

can someone confirm this WARE story. I ain’t buying it.

Mitch Cumstein, another idiot

oh hell, look at these two posters- smart-asses….

BULLS**T!!!!!

rich, it’s two idiots that think they’re funny

its kinda sad actually

Hope all the hoopla over WARE’s performance lately motivates SREARS to turn it up this Thursday. It should be interesting to see these guys on the field together. Maybe they’ll feed off of each other, like Lennon and McCartney!!!

(if Ware can get over his “season-ending” injury by Thursday, of course.):)

thats what happens when their parents aren’t around to monitor their activities.

Yes sad….it’s probably Merriman…lol

Exactly,Ware is just fine and as you can see by those idiots posts,other teams are starting to worry about him already!!! GO COWBOYS!!!

sharkz ur right, Merriman found this site

DAMN IT!! That “Cumstain” imposter posted right after my badd-ass piece on IRVIN! TOTALLY stole my thunder! AHHH!!!

(… screw this. I’m reposting it.)

(re-post)

CASH,

IRVIN was a physical marvel and all-time WR, but it was his leadership and heart that made him a once-in-a-lifetime player.

IRVIN was spirited and competative in a constructive way- not a destructive way (see OWENS). On my Cowboys DVD set, they show footage of him talking to TROY on the bench after a bad game saying to him, â€Å"Thereâ€â"¢s a lot of football left. Donâ€â"¢t even worry about this. If we canâ€â"¢t do it now, weâ€â"¢ll do it again some other time, baby….”

OWENS will NEVER be like that. Heâ€â"¢ll bash his QB and do his own thing.

And CASH, to say (physically) â€Å"IRVIN canâ€â"¢t hold TOâ€â"¢s jock strap” is just disrespectful, and WRONG I might add. Irvin was an incredible physical specimen, and he PLAYED AS BIG as any WR in the game today. His presence, physical AND emotional, was ENORMOUS on the field. He was a GIANT in ways that OWENS will NEVER be.

â€Å"Canâ€â"¢t hold his jockstrap” would imply a HUGE difference between Irvin and TO physically, like IRVIN was some kind of RUNT. IRVIN was the prototypical physical receiver. I can see you trying to get a reaction from the blog, but youâ€â"¢ve still got to think before you put down, brother, especially when youâ€â"¢re talking about a player whoâ€â"¢s done so much for our beloved Cowboys.

â€Å"bigger” â€Å"stronger” and â€Å"faster” donâ€â"¢t mean jack if ya ainâ€â"¢t got heart and on-the-field leadership; when it comes to these qualities, Owens canâ€â"¢t hold IRVINâ€â"¢S jockstrap….

Rich, I’ve heard Irvin say it himself about Owens when it comes to his physical attributes. All the other homer gush crap you posted has nothing to do with what my point was. Owens is capable of doing things physically on the field that Irvin could not do. It’s called speed. And just because I say that Owens is bigger, stronger, and faster than Irvin shouldn’t send a rocket up your ass, it should just put inot perspective for you how big, strong and fast Owens actually is.

Ahh… such a way with words you have Cash… like music. really.

Owens is big and fast. So that’s your damn point?! Fine. Thanks for the news flash.

I just have a problem with your stupid “jock-strap” comment. Answer this: Who would you rather have on your team: OWENS OR IRVIN?

I rest my case.

First of all, the jerkoffs that posted the Ware BS need to have a sulfuric acid enema.

Second, like it or not everyone, especially with Morgan’s implosion; we got the short end of the stick on the AB trade. It ain’t the end of the world! Let’s move on!

Amen, James.

I think every team has had it’s trade and draft day disaster stories- many much, MUCH, worse than the Cowboys.

When you think about it, we’ve probably had many more success stories with our trades and drafts than most teams in the NFL.

We can’t win ‘em all, but like Superbowls, we’ve won many more than most….

Rich,
True enough. I remember many people saying we were idiots to trade all those picks to the seachickens for their 1st rounder (#2) in 1977. With that pick we drafted Tony Dorsett. We were also stupid according to some for trading Herschel Walker. The rest is history. Overall we have done pretty well.

I know it’s off topic, but watching the news I gotta say it. The people in New Orleans and Missisippi really took it in the ass. Let’s all take a moment to say a word in their favor to the Man Upstairs.

The Fakers are back. You have much courage to sit in front of a computer and post under someone elses name.

Where are the Saints going to play if the Superdome is unsafe do to the crack in the roof. Any one know?

If the Fakers would like an “interview”, they need only name the time and place. Of course they will “show up” anonymously as well.

Thank you Rafael. Good question about the aint’s. From what I’ve heard on the news they may be playing all their home games in Shreveport.

LOL. Oh, man!! This CRASHER is pretty good, i have to admit.

I mean, I wouldn’t crash another team’s blog myself, BUT when you think about it, this chicken s**t imposter MUST have googled “COWBOYS” cuz he’s AFRAID of DALLAS’ potential. Good news (or bad news if you hate the Cowboys) travels fast.

Maybe it’s that SEATURD fan from last week? Or maybe a Houston fan?

Either way, he’s crapping himself over the Cowboys this year. That’s why he’s on here. Wierd as it sounds, this makes me really excited about this year. This imposter means one thing: WE’RE BACK!!!!!

Rich,
Given that C**ks**kers level of crass disrespect, he is probably from Filthydelphia. Then again someone from there would have enough balls to come out in the open. He’s probably from Minnesota.

Poor Mitch/Jake:

He needs the attention – obviously doesn’t get it at home. Maybe he should breakdown and buy a date or something … sheesh.

I personally feel sorry for the little guy …

In case you missed it, some loser was posting BS under other users’ names…. Hey, joker, really- you got something to say about your team or ours then post it like a man- we won’t laugh at you… much.

rich:

Cut him some slack – I remember when I had MY first beer … :lol:

Raul remembers Steven Martin when he was on the stage! Name that album.

James:

He’s “A Wild and Crazy Guy!”

Raul,
What did he have inside his suit coat on the picture inside?LOL!

Maybe that’s the fakers problem. He’s a “dyke on fire” who writes without using verbs!

Rich shut your childish pie hole please. I said that Irvin physically could hold Owen’s jock strap, how that translates into who is the better reciever is beyond me. That being said if I could have Irvins heart with Owens skill that would be my choice. Now aren’t you late for fluffer duty at Valley Ranch?

Correction to my above post, couldn’t hold the jock strap.

Correction to my above post, couldnâ€â"¢t hold the jock strap.

Why,is it because Cash is too busy holding it……..

You can’t see how you saying “Irvin can’t hold Owens’ jockstrap” translates into who you think the better receiver is? hmm.

The choice is Irvin or Owens, Dr Frankenstein, not parts of one and the other. lol.

I’m JUST SAYING, dude, (laughing as i type here) that your jockstrap comment was over the top is all. sheesh. Irvin was a big guy, no, not as big as Owens, but not a runt as your jock-strap comment implies.

I agree with you on lots of stuff, cash, like the bryant thing (i think), but i’m gonna call you on what i consider an over-the-top, and frankly, false satatements about Irvin.

You know, i actually stood about 15 feet away from him at training camp at St. Edwards a few years back. As an athlete, he stood out among many other players- EVEN those he was “shorter” than. The guy’s “field presense” was enormous. Much greater than Owens’, in my opinion. (But I guess that’s just my “homer gush crap”.)

You’re saying Owens is bigger and stronger and faster than Irvin- Okay. We all know that. So was THAT your point?. Cool, brother.

Irvin is STILL the better receiver though and COULD hold Owen’s jock strap- not that he’d want to… but it sure sounds like you would.

(Sorry, man- couldn’t help that last shot.) Hit me back.

I’m outta here guys- Gotta get up early and FLUFF over at Valley Ranch with the rest of the homers.

CATCH YA’LL THURSDAY NIGHT!!!!

Make sure you brush your teeth when done Rich. LOL!

One thing I have always wondered about Irvin (or any other high performing individual with problems outside of their work) is why his exemplary behavior as a pro football player did not extend into his personal life. It will be a shame if his extracurricular activities hold him out of the HOF.

Irvin is a big guy Rich. He’s waiting for you to come over and give him a foot massage. Pure and simple Owens is a better physical talent. That’s hardly a knock on Irvin. All things being equal except for speed I’ll take speed. Just my opinion, which contrary to what you may think can’t be classified as false to fact as it is an opinion.

Next time you however many feet from Irvin ask him what he thinks of Owens. The guy is a fan of his, so your homer outrage is what’s over the top.

I’ve had a couple of beers please forgive me for leaving out a few words that have made the above post incoherent.

Raul can you program an edit button please. If you can’t let me know I’ll code it for you and send it to you. :)

Easy debate:

Irvin – Hall of Fame
t.o. – Hall of Shame

Fighter I’ve made the same point, that Irvin is a hall of famer (or at least should be) and Owens will never even be invited to come watch an induction.

Remnant,

All we know about our QB situation is where we are now, and we can’t be all that sure of that. Predicting where we will be next year is impossible. Who knows how good Bledsoe will be? He may not make it through this year, or he might light it up, showing himself to be good for several more seasons. Romo could flop, or he could step in for Bledsoe and never look back. As for Henson, Parcells shouldn’t play him until he (Parcells) thinks Henson is ready. I have always contended that the only thing you prove by playing a quarterback who is not ready, is that he is not ready.

At the end of this year, we can take stock, and reassess the position. There is nothing preventing us from going out into free agency or drafting a quarterback.

Jones and Henson’s agent fashioned Henson’s contract so that it would force the Cowboys to develop him over the long haul, just like they used to, back before free agency. Henson is in a unique situation for quarterbacks these days, whereby it costs less to keep him on the roster than it does to get rid of him. It will be that way through the majority of his 8-year contract. As long as Henson keeps showing some improvement, they can justify keeping him. If, however, he still looks lost by the end of next year, he then runs into Parcells’ famous ‘3-year limit’ and would probably be canned in 2007.

Nice FLUFF piece on crybaby Antonio B. from the Browns
website.Man I thought the guys at DC.com were homers..
the Brownies could give them a class on Homerism!!!

Parcells did not invent the “3 Year Rule”. He learned it from Landry.

James,

Absolutely so. Parcells readily acknowledges the source of that theory. But Parcells is the one who is preaching it today.

Becker, that article was written by one of the DMN sports writers.

CASH- ALRIGHT, your “foot massage” comment was kinda good.

I still think Irvin is the ALL-AROUND BETTER RECEIVER, but I think you do to. Still don’t like your “jockstrap” comment about Irvin, though. Makes you come off like a Dallas-hater. Maybe you shouldn’t drink and post? Anyway…

On BRYANT- Dallas screwed up on that one. Bryant did NOT get a fair shot from PARCELLS- I DON’T HAVE PROOF, but THAT’S my opinion. Again, i think we agree that. Losing Bryant was a big- BIG MISTAKE that’s gonna get bigger as the season goes on.

Not so “homer” of me to contend that we screwed up on that one, huh.

Later.

Cash,
are you kidding me???It was so one sided i figured it had
to be by a Browns writer.

Mr. Bill,
I never said BP was stupid. He did learn from those who came before him. Anyone that does that is smart.

Actually the DMN is blinded by their hatred of B.P. so i
guess i should be surprised by such a biased article.

Rich,

I think the difference in letting Bryants go, is having to spend a #1 pick on a WR next year as opposed to a 2nd or 3rd.

Man, Cash is such a Cowboy hater. Why do we let him on this site. This should be reserved for true Cowboy lovers like me. I mean, I have loved the Cowboys and all they have done….

for the past 5 years.

oR IT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR

TRUE FLUFFERS, rather than true “fans”!

Give us ALL a break Clarke!