Priced Out?
The Cowboys have made a contract offer to Peerless Price and have seen it rejected, according to the DMN.
Price and his agent Tim McGee have traveled down I-35 to San Antonio, where the Saints will court the former Falcon and Bill.
Price is looking for a long-term deal. McGee did not specify what such a deal would look like, but it's clear Dallas did not offer one today.
The rejection does not mean that Price and the Cowboys are done. Price may want, say, a four year contract, but may not get any of the Patriots, Dolphins, Cowboys or Saints to give him one. Price is 28, which is not old, but has an eye condition that needs research. It also seems that none of the four teams has even offered him a starting job. The Patriots play lots of multiple WR formations but have David Givens and Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch topping their rotation.
The Miami papers were claiming today that the Dolphins wanted Price as insurance against the loss of veterans David Boston and Marty Booker, who have both suffered serious injuries in recent years. The Cowboys are in a similar position, hoping Price could provide depth if either Keyshawn Johnson or Terry Glenn broke.
Price's best option may be the Saints. Joe Horn is established, but youngster Dante Stallworth has not lived up to his high draft status. Price could push his fellow Tennessee Volunteer for a starting job.
That said, it is not certain that the Saints have the will or the cap room to offer Price a lengthy deal. Right now, Peerless Price's market appears to favor the buyers.
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peerless would be a nice addition at the right price. but signing him to an expensive contract would be a bad move. too many question marks. not worth for it for a guy who isn’t even expected to start. but JJ knows this, and that is the reason PP won’t be a cowboy
by rparr on Sep 3, 2005 12:32 AM CDT reply actions
By tomorrow we will know, if we have been waiting for months for the beginning of the season, we can wait a day for the future of Price and the 53 man roster Parcells keeps.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 12:54 AM CDT reply actions
So does anyone know exactly how much cap room we have left? The last time I figured it up was before the draft, and at that point we had something like $6-8 mill. With thge rookie pool and the vets that we’ve signed since then, and the fact that we didn’t get rid of any salaries between the draft and now, we shouldn’t have much ourselves. Don’t get me wrong, I think Price would be HUGE for us this year, but I just don’t see how we can make the numbers work.
by Altercall on Sep 3, 2005 1:08 AM CDT reply actions
Altercall,
I think it could work because Price can’t negotiate in a vacuum. It’s one week before the season. Who ELSE has cap room? Veterans who were released in June were out of luck, because the big free agency contracts handed out in March and April had depleted team coffers and what was left was being hoarded for draft picks. I’ll say it again, the teams have the leverage here. Unless somebody like New Orleans caves — and let’s think back to the Darren Howard rumors; one reason they wanted to move him so badly was to free cap space — I don’t see Price getting the deal he wants. He’s going to have to choose between four roughly equal offers. Dallas is in play.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 3, 2005 1:24 AM CDT reply actions
Altercall:
The 6-8 mill you talked about are what JJ had of free cap space, the rookie pool was taken in consideration and the FA’s signed before the draft, and since then, there have been no signings so the money still’s there.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 1:30 AM CDT reply actions
Dallas has done the smart thing.
Last I heard, we had almost 3 mil in cap space. You have to reserve a mil for the season (injury settlements, replacements, etc).
So we have 1.5 to 1.8 mil available.
Now, we haven’t spent that yet, and rightfully so.
We are looking at Price to be a 3rd receiver, potential starter if injuries occur, and to run back some kicks.
Someone like that, and probably much younger and cheaper may be released tomorrow. So, our options are open.
It doesn’t matter if he visits the Saints. I don’t mean to kick a franchise they’re down (or make light of the hurricane tragedy), but the reality is, what free agent wants to sign with a team that will have 16 away games this year? Not going to happen.
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 2:36 AM CDT reply actions
James,
Why are you always the last person on every thread?
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 2:52 AM CDT reply actions
stop it just stop it folks. have you all not seen how good patrick crayton can be? its time to stop bringing in rejects from other teams in here and start to develope your young players. at QB and wr. we dont need price, go with crayton.
by don pertha on Sep 3, 2005 8:32 AM CDT reply actions
Don,
I pretty much agree with you on Crayton because I think he has proven himself, but I am concerned about Philadelphia getting him. I’d almost like to sign Price, just to make sure that doesn’t happen. I think we are closing in on the iggles, and they are without a real threat at complimentary receiver. Price could be the last peice of the puzzle for them. I’d sure like to take that away from them, although it looks like we’ve lost ground in the race to sign him. We’ll see. I’ll be happy if we get him, and happy if we don’t, as long as the iggles don’t get him either.
by Rob2 on Sep 3, 2005 8:51 AM CDT reply actions
Now, THIS is interesting.
I just found this article over at the FWST, which portrays the negotiations nearly 180 degrees from the DMN article on the same subject.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/sports/football/12553172.htm
Here are the portions I consider most relevant:
Cowboys make push for Price
By CLARENCE E. HILL JR.
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER
IRVING – Free-agent receiver Peerless Price spent Friday night mulling what his agent described as “a strong offer” to join the Cowboys.
According to a source, the Cowboys have offered Price a one-year deal worth a little more than $1 million.
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Price’s agent, Tim McGee, said his client, who was released by the Atlanta Falcons on Tuesday, is also holding offers from the New England, Miami and New Orleans.
But he intimated that the Cowboys had offered the best deal and that a decision might come today.
“We could make a decision [Saturday morning],” McGee said. “If we don’t get a deal done with the Cowboys, we will go to San Antonio to visit the Saints.”
So how could these two local newspapers take the same information and come out with such completely different stories? Or did Price’s agent tell two different stories to the two reporters?
by Mr. Bill on Sep 3, 2005 9:03 AM CDT reply actions
Mr. Bill
I read that article earlier, and have the same questions you do. I don’t know whether something new transpired between the timing of these two articles, or whether the agent is saying different things to different people. I have to believe that he is saying some of these things because he knows they’ll be written about and he wants to keep his client out there in the news to keep the interest up. If other teams feel like Dallas is about to sign him, maybe they’ll sweeten their offers. Either way, we shoud know something later today.
by Rob2 on Sep 3, 2005 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
Aftercall,
ProFootballTalk just published the cap space for all teams, as of September 1. They showed the Cowboys with the 5th-most available space, with $6.16 million. The Eagles have the most space with $12.62 million. [Don’t anyone tell Terrell Owens!] The Texans are next with $7.38 million, followed by the Cardinals, Rams, and Cowboys. The Raiders, Bucs and Titans all have less than $1 million in cap space, with the Titans bringing up the rear at $253,000.
Of other teams showing interest in Price, the Patriots have $1.56 million, the Dolphins have $3.78 million, and the Saints have $5.62 million.
Here is a link to the complete listing:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/september1caproom.htm
They get their information from agents, who have access to this data. So, I assume it is correct.
by Mr. Bill on Sep 3, 2005 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
The fact that JJ let Price leave without a signed contract means that we are not eager to have him. All the ramifications we’ve been discussing here (including his eye, Crayton’s promise, our starters’ age, Price’s diminishing abilities, etc.) have added up to us taking notice but showing only marginal interest. If he comes to us, fine. If not, fine. Its like we’re at the dance and there’s a fat girl out there with a really pretty face. Do you ask her to dance?
by Carioca on Sep 3, 2005 9:27 AM CDT reply actions
Mr. Bill,
The AP story that was out last night had McGee saying the Cowboys offer, “was right there” with the others he had received. Says to me that:
a. he’s not getting long term;
b. there’s just not that much cap room, especially for a guy who’s being
looked at as a reserve;
Don Pertha,
This isn’t about Crayton. It’s about Glenn and to a lesser extent Keyshawn. Dallas has a good 3 man rotation and nothing behind it. Guys one and two are old and guy one (Glenn) breaks down. What are the odds that none of the KJ, Glenn, Crayton trio get hurt? I think they are slim. Price at a reasonable price makes a lot of sense to me.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 3, 2005 9:34 AM CDT reply actions
i read in a few different articles that the cowboys offer was similar to every other team has basically been. im sure there are just gonna see if the saints offer alot more money and if not then hell decide between them all. id like to see price come in at a 1 year deal then go from there. if he has a good year and his eye problem is fixed then resign him to a multi year deal, if not part ways.
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 9:35 AM CDT reply actions
Ryan to be cut by Dallas and Swinton cut by Texans…….gonna be lots of recievers,safeties,tackles, and kickers out there looking for jobs in the next few hours guys……just hang on and lets see if anyone useful comes our way!Maybe someone will work for us and maybe they won’t,but you can bet BP and his guys are watching this like a hawk!No team is ever “set” and although we have a much more talented group then in the past there is always room to “tweak” the roster!As BP always sez,“you’re not only competing against the other guys on the roster,but also everyone in the league” and in a few hours there should be more than 500 players hit the streets!Maybe one of them can upgrade a position of need,if not then lets go whip some butt with the team as it is!!!! GO COWBOYS!!!
by sharkz on Sep 3, 2005 10:58 AM CDT reply actions
Big Jim,
If you want me in here earlier for these meetings, you need to pay me more! Generally speaking, I like to read as much as I can before I post, as to avoid the “talk out of your ass” syndrome as much as possible.
I really do agree with that last post by Shark. Swinton would make a perfect 4th WR, can play st,; and allows us to keep Crowder at #5 as well as lets Crayton develop at #3 AND is a veteran to replace an injured Key or Glenn. Relax about Price people. If we were that hot to get him he would already be signed.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
I have a suggestion ya’ll. The Lions are in need of a backup QB. Garcia broke his fibula last night and looks to be out for the season. We could trade Henson to them and get that 3rd rounder back. After all, Millen, their GM is dumb enough to take 3 wr’s #1 the last 3 drafts.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 11:43 AM CDT reply actions
No way we can get a 3rd rounder for Henson, the way hes played. Maybe a 5th. Price for a one year deal? Sounds real good to me. A just over a million? You guys cant turn that down. We have Quincy Morgan and I think pay him more then that for one decent year. Price had a great year and if we could get him for maybe a one year deal worth 1.5 million WATCH OUT this year rest of the NFC.
by Lou on Sep 3, 2005 11:53 AM CDT reply actions
Off topic it is, but the more I read about the relief “efforts” in NO; the more pissed off I get. They government really dropped the bal on this one, or did they even have in their hands to begin with? Federal, state, and local. I’ve donated and prayed, everyone please do the same.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 12:08 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks James,
Raul’s been working on adding a donations link to the site. From what I’ve read, it will probably take more than one donation over time to keep help flowing. I second your recommendations.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 3, 2005 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
As much as I say we DON"T need PRICE, a one year deal for not much $ MIGHT not be that disasterous. I still don’t think he’s that good a receiver, and his eye condition is scary, but at least he can help us stretch the field for our other guys….
If Price is being offered pretty much the same short-term deal from other teams, he’d be stupid not to want to come play for Dallas. We’ve got a good thing going here, plus he’d be reuniting with BLEDSOE….
I just hope it doesn’t take away from Crayton’s development this year in terms of playing time. CRAYTON’s part of our future at WR. PRICE ain’t.
by rich on Sep 3, 2005 12:52 PM CDT reply actions
James,
I’d say hell yeah to trading HENSON for a 3rd rounder, but like Lou says, I don’t think we’d get that much for him….
by rich on Sep 3, 2005 12:54 PM CDT reply actions
Rich,
I haven’t seen anybody address this: Glenn’s missed significant time both years here. If he goes down again, then what? I like Crayton as much as anybody, but what happens to your 3 WR sets? Can we trust Copper or Crowder to fill those roles?
I think the cost of NOT having Price outweight any harm he might cause on the roster.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 3, 2005 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
all im saying is at what point do we get some bigtime young recievers in here? every since joey gallaway its been one reject after the other. at some point you have to start to bring along young players like patrick crayton and tony romo. some people keep saying that bill likes this and bill likes that. at what point do we forget about what bill likes and whats best for bill, and start thinking about whats best for the cowboys? we won 5 super bowls without bill, and we can win without him again.
by don pertha on Sep 3, 2005 1:09 PM CDT reply actions
The only way I don’t see JJ making a push to get Price is that a young prototype posession receiver comes available with the 53 man cuts, if one doesn’t come available, Parcells will push JJ to make an equal or better offer than the best Price gets. And yes, Rafael, other than Crowder, I don’t see any keeper on what’s behind the top 3, and Crowder is a keeper because he has a ton of gunner potential.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 1:18 PM CDT reply actions
Pertha,
All the times I’ve ragged on BP, I’ve been saying basically what you did. An OCCASIONAL and STRATEGIC acqusition of a veteran or guy that’s been with you before is OK. But not a constant stream. We do need to develop our young guys for the future. I do believe that Crayton IS ready to bust out. Bringing in Price at this point would stunt that.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Don:
What young guy do you see? Copper? He hasn’t progressed anything since last season. Crayton is another story and he’s going to play, even if KJ and Glenn stay healthy the whole year. Crowder, other than having gunner potential, he’s a work in progress at receiver, he could be a better receiver by next year. That leads us to what you said, I can see young guys available with the 53 man roster cuts, but are those guys projects or real talented guys that could start if something goes awfully wrong this season? Young guys will be available next year, in one of the deepest WR markets like the one the draft had last year, BTW any of you has an insider on espn? They grade the best seniors so it would be interesting to see if there’s a posession receiver on the making.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 1:25 PM CDT reply actions
Crayton is ready, you are correct but Price in good insurance for the team. We can also run a 4 reciever set on long yardage plays now and can surely run plenty of spread as well. Like all of you I hate to see Crayton lose catches but if it helps the team go all the way I’m in.
I do belive that Crayton could very well be the next Drew Pearson…Think about it. He’s an undrafted free agencyt with the best hands on the team accoriding to Big Bill.
by Steve From Houston on Sep 3, 2005 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
Don:
Bill doesn’t like rookie mistakes, but he’s starting Ware, isn’t he? That guy may cost the team points in games this year, but he is worth getting in and letting develop, and Bill knows it.
Crayton will play significant time this year, Price or no, and he is a young and inexperienced guy. Bill trusts him, though. Same with Petitti. Burnett, Canty, and Spears play a lot and will probably start before the year ends. They are young and inexperienced, but they are already “Parcells guys.” They are players who like to play, and learn from their mistakes. So is Julius Jones. Thompson proved to be a Parcells guy, and Thomas seems to have, too. Barber and Beriault got hurt, but were on their way to proving the same.
Carter and the china dolls (Galloway, Ismael) formerly at WR were never Parcells guys. Carter played brain dead, and the china dolls broke in half every game or two, so they could not be counted on, no matter how quick their 40s. You can’t stretch the field from IR or the training table.
I agree that when what’s best for Bill deviates from what’s best for the Cowboys, the team should come first, but I’m not sure the two differ here. The team needs tough, smart, physical, disciplined players to fit into the tough, smart, physical, disciplined style they are taking on again. We have not seen that from the Cowboys since Jimmy Johnson was shown the door, and I am about ready to see some more of it. I’m tired of watching the Cowboys get punked by the Iggles twice a year.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 1:35 PM CDT reply actions
bert:
You forgot another young Parcells guy, Witten, when he played with that still unhealed fractured jaw, he made he statement of how much does he likes to play.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
Like I said last night, we basically drafted foru first rounders with this draft. Three of these guys will be perinnial pro bowlers
by Steve From Houston on Sep 3, 2005 1:51 PM CDT reply actions
The way I look at it, Price is 28 ( 5 years younger than T.G. and K. J. ) Price can produce this year and next year as a 2 or a 3. Look at there careers, Price plays games. Terry does not. I think Terry makes a good 3. Price will give us depth at a position we are thin at. It also make us younger at the position.
by randall on Sep 3, 2005 1:53 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks, Chandus. I wasn’t trying to list all the guys, but I sure did nlt mean to leave out a major one. My point is that when the mediots talk about “Parcells guys,” the implication is that they are old players of his, when we have seen him the last two years add “guys” to his list, depending on their play and determination.
We all remember the Jimmy had his “guys,” too, and what happened if you weren’t one of them (like Curvin Richards). That is how Steve Walsh got here and almost derailed a dynasty before it started. Landry had his “guys,” too. All coaches want players who can and will play smart, tough, and hurt.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
You know, if we get Price AND keep Morgan, we could have the best “Hail Mary” formation in the League!!!!!!!!!
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 2:01 PM CDT reply actions
3rd for henson lol no friggin way maybe the 3rd pick in the 6th round maybe.
at the local best buy they are having a concert/fundraiser where im a sponsor and would deffinteley stress to people to help out with whatever they can. anything is better then nothing.
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
Henson sucks get rid of him immediately. He ain’t no Aikman that’s for sure. Let’s use him for trade bait.
by Steve From Houston on Sep 3, 2005 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
looks like Philadelphia signed wr D. McCants according to espn transactions.
by rmac on Sep 3, 2005 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
The cuts are coming in.
Most noteably the Eagles released Hugh Douglas and Sean Landetta.
We won’t be interested in SL because of ’ol Thunderfoot.
HD was one of the first people Parcells traded when he got to the Jets, so don’t look for him with a star on his helmet either.
College football note: did everyone see that TCU beat Oklahoma?
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 3:49 PM CDT reply actions
Getting Price now could protect our options with our 1st pick next year. If he produces we can afford to take a wr in the 2nd-3rd and let him develope. If not we will have to either buy a FA or spend a high draft pick anyway.
by Todd on Sep 3, 2005 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
all of you make good points, and im not saying im right about everything. but im a cowboy fan who feels its should be about our team and not BP. this may sound crazy but we have and can win without BP. for the most part it comes down to talent. from now on jerry needs to do whats best for the cowboys, not bill.
by don pertha on Sep 3, 2005 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
i dont think the cowboys have nothing to loose if they sign pp,better to know they did everything they could to aquire talent in the
offseason,rather than going into next yrs offseason still with questions at WR.People you forget bp wants to win now not put it to faith in next yrs draft,bp window is not long term i think jj will pursue pp hard
by Jesse on Sep 3, 2005 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
don pertha,
Respect your opinion; however, have you been watching the team since 1996?
Theorecticaly, we could win with any coach. But I have a feeling we can afford to get rid of Jerrry before we can afford to get rid of Bill Parcells.
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 4:38 PM CDT reply actions
don pertha,
as it prooves in the past that no one has had the credibility that bill does in the nfl,any other coach would be a puppet just like campo was,that puts a bad taste in my mouth watching those old cowboys games(campo era)or should we say the jj era
by Jesse on Sep 3, 2005 4:45 PM CDT reply actions
Jesse,
I remember Parcells talking about setting up this team not simply for the win-now, but for the future, whether he’s coaching or not. That’s what he does- look at how the Pat’s and Jets are still flourishing because of what he started there.
Todd,
Your thinking regarding getting Price and therefore passing on a stud WR in the first round is exactly what I’m afraid of- signing Price and then passing on a bad-ass like a Braylon Edwards, Roy Williams (WR), or even a Michael Irvin. That’s why we sign Price, I hope it’s only a one year deal.
That way we MAYBE better postion ourselves to win now (ie, strong playoff run), but we leave the door open for getting that 1st round stud WR we need; one that will help us sooner AND later.
by rich on Sep 3, 2005 4:49 PM CDT reply actions
Don, I would agree, except that Jerry has shown, if anything, that he is a lousy judge of talent. Remember Quincy Carter in the 2nd round? How about passing on Tony Brackens to trade down and take Shaute Carver? The pick he traded to obtain did not make it, either, as I recall. Or the year another team took his projected 2nd round pick, so he moved all his projected picks up a round and took the projected 3rd in the 2nd, 4th in the 3rd, etc? None made it. Look at the Cowboy’s drafts between Jimmy and Bill—how many players are on the team from that interval? How many made the Pro Bowl, even once? How many busted within their first contract? How about deciding to draft 2nd teamers instead of potential starters, only to end up with neither? How about years of cap hell built on hanging onto players past their prime and unworthy of their pricetags because of the owner’s ego (yes, I’m talking about Deion)? Jerry is accountable for all of that.
Asking Jerry to start drafting despite what Bill tells him is like putting the town drunk in charge of your business. Jerry thinks he is a football guy, but he is not. He refuses to hire a real football guy as GM. Bill is a real football guy. The only way to succeed in this situation is to convince Jerry he is making the decisions, but have a football guy making them. Jimmy did this for awhile, now Bill is. Do not push Bill out of the loop before the team starts winning. Jerry has a history of pushing out coaches and letting his team flounder, and could easily revert. Don’t get me wrong—Jerry is a great owner and businessman, but he is a lousy GM because he is no football guy. Keep Bill in charge of football decisions.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
heson has to be the next best thing since chad hutchinson,somebody cut him or send him to nfl europe to give him more time to work on his offseason mechanics that made him look horrid this camp & pre season,i say nfl europe or cut him loose…….whooo go!!!! Tony Romo the man was impressive this camp and earned that backup position,one thing i trully know is that romo is an intelligent QB BP loves him the guy has a future in this leage
by Jesse on Sep 3, 2005 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Here’s an article from nfl.com- lots of WR talent that’s gonna be out there after today. Says the Seahawks may cut 2 or 3 talented WR’s. Some big names there. They may deserve a look. Maybe we can do better than Price.
by rich on Sep 3, 2005 4:58 PM CDT reply actions
Big Jim and Cowboy Bert,
I’m with both of you. I have had my differences with BP, but given a choice of poopcanning him or Mr Wal-Mart for the betterment of the team; I choose BP hands down. Jerry J is NOT the football guy he thinks he is. When BP leaves, so should Jerry. Leave Stephen J as the GM and BP as the director of player personnel/ scouting director/ draft coordinator.
Now about thum that Horned Frogs: ARE YOU SHIITING ME? Biggest win for them in 50 years.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
I think they had Larry Brown as their rep for the coin toss!!!!!!!!
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 5:07 PM CDT reply actions
i still say take PP and BP can use next yrs draft to solidify RT a position so hard to replace,the anchor to your offense production,without that how are you gonna buy time to throw to your stud reciever? I say take PP save next years draft for a stud RT and make your team well rounded,I think BP thinks the same
by Jesse on Sep 3, 2005 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
price signed a one year deal worth 2 mil which includes a 500,000 signing bonus
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
Bad decision, same reason why the Rangers have no pitching right now: We must grow our recievers (pitchers in the case of the Rangers) from within our system. I think Crayton will be a damn good WR, but his development will now be stunted. Oh well, hopefully this wasn’t a decision JJ (Jerry) made without consulting BP. Price doesn’t go across the middle, Crayton does. I guess Price is Glenn’s backup, but we’ll see. I would’ve liked to see more of Crayton, but he’ll get his chance, hopefully.
Not a knock on Price, when he’s allowed to run the field across from a number one like Moulds (or KJ in our case) he’s one of the best. Unfortunately, we already have Glenn. I guess they just don’t have much confidence in Glenn’s ability to stay healthy.
by David-CT on Sep 3, 2005 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
Another thought, maybe they’ve lost confidence in KJ’s ability to beat the defense. He could still do it a little bit last year, but maybe he’s lost another step (not great for a guy that already isn’t considered all that fast). Who knows, it’s just speculation.
by David-CT on Sep 3, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
Here is a link to the John Clayton article at ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2151065
And, here are the first-three paragraphs of that article:
The Dallas Cowboys won the Peerless Price sweepstakes Saturday, reaching agreement on a one-year contract worth $2 million.
The Cowboys beat out the Patriots, Dolphins and Saints in a competitive couple days of recruiting and negotiating with Price, who was released by the Atlanta Falcons in the cutdown to 65 earlier in the week.
On Friday, the numbers were at the $1.5 million level. The Cowboys finished the negotiations Saturday afternoon by offering the wide receiver $2 million for the season, including $500,000 in a signing bonus.
by Mr. Bill on Sep 3, 2005 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
Oh man, the cuts were just posted on DC.com, and there are some big surprises:
RB Erik Bickerstaff
DT Leo Carson
—SS Rich Coady
WR Tom Crowder
TE Tony Curtis
SS Woody Dantzler
RB Keylon Kincade
PK Nick Novak
LB Keith O’Neil
—DS Jeff Robinson
TE Sean Ryan
OL Matt Tarullo
—OT Kurt Vollers
OL Tyson Walter
—FS Lynn Scott
Place on Injured Reserve
SS Justin Beriault
LB Kalen Thornton
Traded For:
OLB Scott Fujita (from Kansas City for conditional sixth-round pick)
No Robinson, and we cut both Scott and Coady, who knew.
by David-CT on Sep 3, 2005 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
We should wait for a new thread before we talk bout this, sorry I brought it up
by David-CT on Sep 3, 2005 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
I would have to say, vollers is a shock, tucker the backup..god help us
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
In the last three games, Tucker outplayed Vollers. Both safety backups sucked. Look for a waiver-wire pickup or two at safety.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
Steve from Houston,
I remember when people abandoned the Cowboys after St. Landry was sold out.
As bad as that hurt (and still hurts) I figure your either a Cowboy fan or you aint’. If your just a “fair weather” Cowboy, you ain’t no Cowboy at all.
Sorry
by KCE on Sep 3, 2005 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
No big surprizes there……maybe Vollers but he has a broken wrist …..
by sharkz on Sep 3, 2005 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
suprised we cut robinson? i saw no because of the 1 million dollar salary, good trade by the way he has led kc in tackles the last 2 years
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
David-CT,
Thanks for breaking that news.
Of course, the real surprise is Robinson. Jon Condo must have really improved his long snaps from the mini-camp. In the preseason games, his snaps all looked very good.
We must have our eyes on waiver-wire cuts, because now we are down to just 2 safeties. Of course, we did keep all of our CBs, so one or more of them (like Reeves) could move there.
Minor surprises — Johnson was kept over Carson. [Maybe they felt that Johnson wouldn’t clear waivers … in spite of my argument to the contrary! :) ] Copper was kept over Crowder. [That didn’t surprise me.] Walter and Noll and Tucker were all kept over Vollers. [Walter’s play at LT in that final game probably tipped the scales there.] We keep 4 running backs plus Polite. [No surprise to me.] Ryan is gone. [That one really had to hurt, but I don’t think Parcells had a choice here.]
And, Morgan is still on the team. Trade bait?
by Mr. Bill on Sep 3, 2005 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
so we keep morgan plus get price, i know morgan has struggled but if he can keep the drops down, we have 5 damn good wr, add whitten and 6 good wr hard to cover that if they work it out.
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
who’s deep snapper now? I wasn’t expecting Robinson to go
by ManTab on Sep 3, 2005 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
fujita has nice stats 3 yrs exp. 259 tackles and 9.5 sacks in 3 years not bad for a lb. i think thatll help big time on the lb situation…
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 5:49 PM CDT reply actions
Woops! Walter is gone, too! I missed that on my first read.
That is interesting, because he could play so many positions. And it leaves us with only Tucker as backup on both sides. Or will they now start Tucker at RT, with Petitti as the backup for both players.
Tucker has played well the last two preseason games.
Sorry for looking like a complete dumbass there!
by Mr. Bill on Sep 3, 2005 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
Steve from Houston,
I have no right to challenge your credtentials and apologize if it sounded that way.
I’m just an old one trick pony, the Cowboys. And I can’t imagine changing that allegiance. Hell I can’t even imagine how people would “boo” at games. Their family!
by KCE on Sep 3, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
Mr. Bill:
Walter is also gone, despite his last game. Recheck the list. Morgan will go when a safety appears. Johnson has more potential than Carson, and can sit inactive for a few weeks until he catches on. Copper and Crowder were a wash.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
And Steve from Houston, would you mind if I asked you who your dad is?
by David-CT on Sep 3, 2005 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
Keep watching the news guys,two more surprizes coming…….(good ones..lol)
by sharkz on Sep 3, 2005 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
johnson is prolly cheaper to. they have been saying that if noll would improve walters was gone for the salary reasons, guess he improved. agree copper crowder wash id keep whoever had the best hands. nice to beriault moved to the ir hell be a nice player once his knee is ok.
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
Dallas talking about another trade with KC about their safety JEROME WOODS who went to the pro bowl a couple of years ago but now wants out of KC,since he has been relegated to backup. That sounds possible because I cant see going into week one with only two safeties on the squad
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
sharkz is that the other news or is there something else???? cmon man hook a brother up with the info
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
Have patience grasshopper,as soon as the players snatch the pebbles from JJ’s hand I will enlighten you……lol
by sharkz on Sep 3, 2005 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
in other words as soon as ESPN reports something, he’ll let you know
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
just dont tell me julius fell down and broke his back or something like that, or ware tripped over a garbage can and tore every muscle n his body
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
. . . and the doctors discovered an inoperable tumor
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
did i not say the other day that both vollers and walter should be cut? they have not done anything in their years here. after looking at the list of players cut i have to say i agree with what BP did. hated to let carson go but pepper johnson and jay ratliff are steals.
by don pertha on Sep 3, 2005 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
I could see us putting Crowder on the practice squad, he’ll probably clear.
I can’t beleive Noll beats out Vollers/ Walter. We already have Peterman and Gerode.
Something is deffinitely going on at safety. Parcells said Davis is the starter for now. I don’t think we would have dropped Crowder if we weren’t bringing in a big time Vet. Davis will be back at his gunner position.
There must be something going on at Tackle too. Tucker will not be the back up to both sides. Wonder if we’re bringing in Gragg/Verba.
By the way, there were also quite a few drug suspensions today.
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
Don,
You called it right man. I never saw the Carson cut coming, but consider this your props. You know your coach.
by Rob2 on Sep 3, 2005 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
rich,
Looks like all of our draft picks made the team.
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
I liked the Fujita signing, he’s 6-5 and 250 pounds, ideal size for an OLB. Have to underline that Parcells kept Ogbogu, I think that he doesn’t want to say goodbye to his sacks, 8 in this 2 years.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
I’m happy for Beriault. Now he and his wife don’t have to look for a job.
by Rob2 on Sep 3, 2005 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
Big Jim,
yeah, I read that earlier about the suspensions, I think there was three.
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
I’m shocked that Vollers was cut. Who all does that leave on our line?
Adams
Allen
Gurode
Johnson
Rivera
Pettiti
Tucker
Noll
?
by Cash on Sep 3, 2005 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
Plus Johnson and Thompson. Good rookie haul.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
Chandus,
I think that obogu will be traded in the next couple of days.A couple of teams were inquiring about him,That why he was kept him on the roster.
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
Cash, 8 linemen may be it. That is not too atypical, I think.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
KCE,
Reeves was playing some safety in the nickel packages
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:14 PM CDT reply actions
I was also a little surpised to see Jeff Robinson get the boot.
by Rob2 on Sep 3, 2005 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
lol @ jack
id bet there might be something going on with o-line. apossible trade or addition???
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
Quentin Griffin was released by Denver. It would not be good for us if Philly picked him up.
Will Fujita start in place of Singleton, or will he replace Thorton as Ware’s backup?
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
Mike i was referring to an earlier post,the KC safety,rumor only…..Cowboys looking into it…only rumor as far as I know…..and a few more kickers coming in…..
by sharkz on Sep 3, 2005 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
peerless price signs one year deal with dallas!!!!
by Anthony on Sep 3, 2005 6:17 PM CDT reply actions
I see we have a couple of idiots logging in with their nonsense, I guess their mommy is out of their view.
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:17 PM CDT reply actions
Derrick:
For what, a safety? I’d pull the trigger, now with Fujita we have the guy that can make sacks from the Strong Side, there’s only one problem with him, he’s average in coverage.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
o ok damn, i was hoping we traded for peyton manning or something
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
Carson is the only one of Parcell’s old sandbag projects who failed to make the team, and Johnson (another personal project) outplayed him. All the other failed 4-3 players stuck, as predicted. BP’s defense should be formidable.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
chandus according espn scouts hes decent in coverage
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
this is about fujita
Solid take-on player – good initial pop on contact. Long arms to take on and get rid of blockers. Good lateral quickness and speed – can close down the line. Can penetrate and hit gaps. Good job of re-routing the TE. He is an effective blitzer on pass downs. He shows solid speed off the edge on his pass rush – good burst to finish. He is a full tilt player and at times can get out of control and lose where he is on the field. Can be late with his reads in run support. Not instant to react at the snap. He looks awkward playing in space. Does not show quick change of direction. Good in line tackler but can get frozen if he is 1×1 out near the numbers. Does not protect his legs very well in-line. Overall, he is a productive player that has led the team in tackles for consecutive seasons. Tall OLB with a long lower body and long arms. He is a good athlete for the position – solid straight-line speed
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
Fujita played SS OLB on KC, so he’ll be a SS OLB in the 3-4 here.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
mike, nice write up, I think he was expendable because Derrick Johnson will start at that position in KC
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
exactly Mike,I think he will be a nice addition…..OLB
by sharkz on Sep 3, 2005 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Parcells! Richtung soo die birzirchekrankenhausen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would have paid Price 1 million and put the 500,000 into an incentive package. We payed too much.
Noll over both both Vollers AND Walter? We’re bringing someone else in.
Beriault to IR (no surprise), Coady and Scott cut? So we’re working on a trade at FS are we? How much are we going to give? With the Fujita trade we are already without a 4th and a 6th for next April’s draft. Since we kept all of our CB’s, I think we are going to see Reeves play some safety.
Hope that Fujita is worth the draft pick. With such great #‘s from him why wasn’t KC willing to keep him. Derrick Brooks isn’t that HOT is he?
Jeff Robinson gone. He was the best, but Condo is cheaper and gives us an extra LB.
“Pepper” stays. Can’t say I agree with this one, but I knew that BP could tell that he would never clear waivers for the PS.
So Ogbogu made the team…..or has he? Maybe he and Morgan for a safety?
Hope Crowcer goes to PS!
by James on Sep 3, 2005 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
With Price on board I guess it’s back to the bench for Crayton?
by KCE on Sep 3, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
mike:
KC drafted Derrick Johnson to start in favor of Fujita for his coverage skills, I’ll say this, though, Fujita isn’t suited for the 4-3, he’s suited for the 3-4 and that’s why he’s here. But having 2 possible starting OLBs who are average in coverage is an invitation to a shoot out match with a guaranteed shoot on the foot.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
the conditional is for 2007 i thought. the 6th is for 2006
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
A couple of nice additions. That never hurts. I do agree with Big Jim about Quentin Griffin. He would be hell in Philadelphia. Someone is going to take him. Please God, let it be anyone other than them.
by Rob2 on Sep 3, 2005 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
James, remind me how we lost the 4th. And didn’t the team pick up an extra 6th for dumping Hunter on the Jets?
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:30 PM CDT reply actions
No, KCE, he’s going to play as much as what he was going to, now Parcells has the chance to rest KJ and TG for as much plays as he would want to, to keep them fresh in 4th Quarters and the dawn of the season.
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
bert good point about the 6th for hunter i forgot that, so basically we traded hunter and a conditional 2007 for fujita not bad there
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
I didn’t expect BP to have enough interest in Kalen Thornton to IR him.
I figured him to be a bubble guy anyway. Especially now in hindsight w/ Fujita being signed.
by KCE on Sep 3, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
We lost a pick to Philly when we moved up to get Canty.
But, I thougt it was a 5th and we got an extra 6th from them.
by Big Jim on Sep 3, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks, Big Jim. I forgot about the Canty dealings.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
KCE:
Parcells likes Thornton, that’s a given, he’s been playing with an injured knee, I don’t remember what he had on his knee, strained ligaments?
by Chandus on Sep 3, 2005 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
Thornton needs his knee cleaned up like Beriault, he was limping badly the other night, but played through it
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
OK guys. On Canty we gave the iggles a 2005 4th and 5th for him. Philly gave us their 2005 4th and 2006 6th. So yes I forgot we had an extra 6th next April. Fujita trade looks better now.
With Hunter the Jets gave us a conditional pick. If Hunter made their opening day roster, we got a 5th rounder in April. If he was cut prior to opening day, we got a sixth rounder in 2007. We also gave KC a conditional pick in 2007 for Fujita. Maybe that pick could be Hunter’s.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
Cowboys gave up a 2005 5th round pick and 2006 4th round pick to Phily for the Canty pick plus a 2006 6th round pick.
by MarkD on Sep 3, 2005 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
In college, Thornton was an undersized D end with an active motor. His dad was a decent D end with the Cowboys back in his day. He has good pedigree and decent skills. He plays hurt, and plays hard. He may not make it in the end, but he sure is giving Parcells reasons to keep him.
by cowboy bert on Sep 3, 2005 6:42 PM CDT reply actions
even if we didnt have the extra 6th the leading tackler for kc (which isnt hard) but still good trade.
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
How ‘bout that. All the draft picks made it. No surprise there. Everyone of them was productive at one point or another. Placing Thornton on IR gave the team a chance to keep Ogbagu (for the time being). Could the release of Vollers signal that they are looking for veteran help at the tackle position(as Big Jim mentioned), perhaps after game one? I don’t see them keeping Morgan as a 5th WR. Since he doesn’t play special teams, he will be inactive for most games and that would really stick under his craw.
by Joe on Sep 3, 2005 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
bill like thornton, Ithink thats why he put him on IR , to keep from losing him
by Derrick on Sep 3, 2005 6:47 PM CDT reply actions
2million 500,000 signing bonus plus inncentatives 1 year
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:49 PM CDT reply actions
comment from peerless’s agent
A lot of receivers and only one ball can sometimes cause a problem. McGee said it won’t because Price is focused on wins not catches.
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:53 PM CDT reply actions
Dallasman,
I don’t K. Thornton got were he is being a wuss. Maybe not the greatest but far from your descriptor.
Open,
What’s the earliest we find out that Ryan didn’t clear waivers for the Prac Squad?
by KCE on Sep 3, 2005 6:53 PM CDT reply actions
did anyone post that the beagles released hugh douglas? him and simon thats alot missing from there front 4
by mike on Sep 3, 2005 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
Dallasman, Steve From Houston, Jack … whatever you want to call yourself:
You’ll get more credibility if you (a) quit pretending to be multiple people, (b) act like a mature person instead of posting fake injuries and © participate in a discussion.
by Raul Villaronga on Sep 3, 2005 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
Raul,
Isn’t it amazing how many flocktards there are in the world!
by James on Sep 3, 2005 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
Couldn’t have been Dallasman, or are you. All my relatives have ALL their teeth. No joy buddy, WE AREN’T RELATED!
by James on Sep 3, 2005 7:23 PM CDT reply actions
James,
I’m guessing the guys is maybe 9th, 10th grade or the drop out equiv.
by KCE on Sep 3, 2005 7:28 PM CDT reply actions
I dunno Dallasman, why dont you ask your momma. She always snuck down to this blog while your daddy and the kids were sleeping. Poop on your MBA. I bet YOU didnt pay for it. Who was it the state or your cuckholed father? You sound like one of those buttholes that take out a student loan, and pell grant, and on and on. You don’t need the help, so you go and buy a new car with it.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
I dunno Dallasman, why dont you ask your momma. She always snuck down to this blog while your daddy and the kids were sleeping. Poop on your MBA. I bet YOU didnt pay for it. Who was it the state or your cuckholed father? You sound like one of those buttholes that take out a student loan, and pell grant, and on and on. You don’t need the help, so you go and buy a new car with it. Are you bored? Or is your name Clarke? That would make 4 names.
by James on Sep 3, 2005 9:33 PM CDT reply actions

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