How to Lose a Game in Five Easy Steps

The classic trap game. Everyone says we owned the Skins, MNF, and the triplets in. All reasons the Cowboys were just “supposed” to win. Except you gotta play for the full 60.

Maybe this is just spin, but I think a young growing team needs a loss like this to teach them they don’t come easy. As shocking as it was, you know this loss will burn in their memories for a long time to teach them to play it through.

Oh, forgot to say, excuses are for losers and all, but Flozell got robbed on that final holding call, just like the pancake earlier in the game. Madden was right. He was just playing good football. No penalty, first down, 2 more minutes off the clock, and this wouldn’t have happened.

this season is not over with this loss tonight. we can win every game we play if we dont give up big plays on defense. and if we start putting teams away with touchdowns. one thng, NFL officals stop freaking the cowboys. thhose holding calls against the cowboys at every key time was suspect at best. stop injecting yourself in games.

It never fails to amaze me that opposite results happen when the network puts up a statistic like BP teams are 77-0 when leading by at least 13 points or more in the 4th quarter. Statistics don’t mean jack in a Cowboys/Redskins game. Even though Dallas has had Washington’s number the past several years, it’s been mostly close games. We just happen to be in the sad end of it this time. No time to weep over it since we have 2 road games following this one and a short week to prepare as well.

I’m diggin’ your site… The most intelligent Cowboys site I’ve seen, so I’ll do my best to keep it on that level… I’m a lifelong Skin’s fan who has been thru all of the ups & downs of this rivalry since the ’60’s… It was just our turn for last minute heroics tonite… Clint Longley, Staubach, Crayton… We’ve suffered more than our share of the type of bitterness that I’m sure you’re feelin’ right now… I hope that Parcells & Gibbs stick around for a few more years cuz both teams have alot of talent & are obviously better than last year…

we just tried to run out the clock too early

RLeigh,
True enough, we have handed it to you over the years. As bad as last night hurt, it will benefit us in the long run.

Len,
I agree, no excuses. But for sure the first holding call on Adams was BS. They had a perfect camera angle for it on replay. It was nothing more than Madden said, A PANCAKE! And what about the Glover hit on Brunell? Would someone please show me exactly what part of Glovers helmet made contact with Brunell’s!

Things we did well:
Gave up no sacks.
+2 turnover ratio (no turnovers by us).
Our youngins are staring to to pick up how to do things (Spear, Ware,Canty).
We no longer have a CB problem. Henry WAS money well spent and TNew is improving every week. (Except for the Thrash play mistake)
Our D is getting comfortable with the schemes we play (except for a few plays, their discipline was good).

What we didn’t do well:
Enough said! We were all witnesses to that!

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Excuses are like A#holes, everyone has one. I could rant and rave about the “holding call” or the missed field goal or a number of other things but they don’t matter. We as a young team still lack what those three inductees had….a killer instinct. we had the game won and couldn’t put them away. Its a growing lesson, one we obviously didn’t learn last week when we gave up 4th down conversions on prayers and did it again this week.

we did have some positives. We controlled the line of scrimmage pretty well on both sides of the ball. We didn’t run very well but their LBs did a good job there. Did Bledsoe even get hit? Good protection there. Special teams looked special again with Thompson nearly breaking one, and the skills of McBriar. I will leave the replacement PK out of this one. We are growing. Still, it was pretty hard to watch that garden gnome jump up and down in the visiting owners box. I have tix to the game here in DC and look forward to a little payback.

James,
Glover’s hit was one of those face mask to face mask hits… didn’t really matter cause we still stopped them. The biggest bad call was the 2nd holding call on Adams. We had the first down, and like Len said.. 2 more minutes off the clock. Might of just been me looking for something.. but on the first redskins TD, it looked to me like Ellis, or however the end was, was held. Anyone else see that?

J-MAN,
NICE!, another bid D fan in DC. We need more ;)

J-Man,
What you say about killer instinct is true, very true. But the refs did screw us over, just like they’ll screw someone else over next week. I’ll be looking for some payback come December too.

James,

Yea, I am tempted to moan about the calls. It looked like someone was yanked down(held) on that one play for their first TD, the Adams calls were not good but you are right. they will be there next week too, and hopefully in our favor.

Hopefully, the faithful will be out in force today on the blog b/c I personally don’t want to leave my office. Its 8:15 am and I’ve already gotten 3 visitors and four phone calls. They win once in Dallas in 10 years and they think they have won the super bowl. its a pretty sad life for a skins fan but its the way it is here in DC.

How can Aaron Glen let SMoss just sprint down the field and catch the ball in stride without some type of contact?!!? not just once, but twice! You have to at least bump the guy once, don’t you?

The better team won, as much as it pains me to say that. The Cowboys looked out of position, a step slow, and poorly conditioned on defense at the end of the game. The coaching let them down (who lets the fastest guy on the field run by twice when that is all that can defeat you—that is a coaching mistake).

There were positive signs, and the team can use this game to learn. This was not a SB team before this game, but they may still build toward one or more in future years. These kinds of losses can help, if the lessons from them are learned.

Above all, no excuses! The calls were equally bad both ways, and will even out over the season, anyway. We watched a growing, developing team, not the Cryboys.

chuck,

It wasn’t Glenn that was the problem, its Roy Williams who has the over the top help and lets wide recievers run by him all day, thats the problem. The cowboys were playing nickel two deep zone, and time and time again, Roy Williams lets the Wide recievers run by him three times in the forth quarter.Its a good thing the first pass was under thrown, because that would of been a touchdown, ofcource Roy cant catch a ball that hits him right in the hands.Why in the world is Roy Williams playing safety in the Nickel, he should be the linebacker in that Scheme and put someone in there that can cover back there or understands that in two deep zone, you keep everything in front of you.

cowboy bert,
 What game did you watch??
The cowboys dominated the game and dont give me this garbage, the coaching was the problem, ROY WILLIAMS ISTHE PROBLEM. If he doesn’t understand the concept that in two deep zone you dont let recievers run by you, then he shouldn’t be back there.

We need to have Roy playing up and covering the middle- not defending deep because he is not good at it. We need to have Someone ELSE doing that. Should have had Newman or Henry on Moss- the hell with playing zone, whatever- man on the only real threat the other team has. With Glenn helping deep- Moss gets nothing.

this was a very disturbing loss. 13 pts in under 4 minutes cmon. the tuna is 77-1 in games where hes lead in the fourth by 13pts. the lack of pressure is what was killing us in the end brunell could just wait, since the front four cant pressure anything. 2 holding calls on flozell where non existant, i dont know what the refs saw but there was no holding on adams. either way the redskins showed they are not gonna give up give them credit for the win and slap us all the way to san fransisco.

Everybody is left wondering what happened… True the things listed above are a problem, but what I never hear anyone say, and this I beleive is the reason for close loses last year too, is the Parcels’ game plan is as old school as Gibbs’ clock management last season. “Ball Control” offenses dont win games anymore, and we have the enough weapons to not have to play that way.

The teams in the league that are winning both this season and last season are teams that put there opponent away, not the ones that bottle feed a 7 point lead for the entire game.

Case in point… End of the half. Take a shot and try to put the game out of reach. It was third down, you have a veteren QB and a plethora of WR talent. Instead of taking the chance on a rookie RB tell your veteran QB take a shot if it’s not 100% there then toss it away.

You have to put the team away not milk the lead. Our D outplayed the Redskins offense all game, the funny thing is their defense didnt have to outplay our offense once we got a 7 point lead, we went easy on them and shame on us. We deseved the loss for not using what we have built.

Just some thoughts… Let me know what you think.

I do not want to hear about those holds, granted they were phantom calls, what I want to know is why Newman was not on Moss? Newman may not be the best cover corner we have, but he is the fastest & seeing how all Moss did was run a fly route, it would have made more sense to me to have him covering Moss. Bottom line is, the boys showed they are at least 2 years away from any major chance of winning in the playoffs. They looked like fools & let a Redskins team with no offense what so ever look like the Rams when they won the super bowl a few years back, but they did it in 4 minutes in the 4th. Oh well, the eagles will be back & the boys will go 7-9 or 8-8….if they are lucky

The Good:

• Our young players looked very good. Newman int, Canty sack, Spears half sack, Ware pressure (and less rushing breakdown), Crayton 4 decent punt returns, Thompson 31 yd avg on kick returns, and Julius ran strong.
• Special teams was much better. No major coverage breakdowns.
• Our defense shut down Portis (52 yds, 3.1 avg).
• No interceptions by Bledsoe again.

The Bad:

• Our receivers were not getting open much. Including Witten, Crayton and Keyshawn, all of whom looked a step slow all night. I’ll give Price a bye in limited action, though he wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire, either.
• Bledsoe’s passes in the 4th were very erratic.
• Cortez missed from freaking 41 yards.
• Roy wasn’t getting through much when blitzing.

The Ugly:

• Coaching. You want examples?
     - Once the Cowboys were up 10-0, they went into complete offensive stagnation in an apparent attempt to eat the clock. Unfortunately, they started that with 11:24 left in the 3rd quarter. That isn’t just conservative; against any NFL team it’s idiotic. In the last possession of the 3rd qtr and first possession of the 4th, they ran the ball 11 times and passed just 5. By the way, they averaged just 3.1 yds per rush against 7 and 8 man fronts all night. Don’t coaches always preach that “you take what they give you”?
     - Like Rafael said, Brunell gets flustered easily. And the blitz had worked well enough all night. So why on God’s green earth did they stop blitzing in the 4th?
     - Blame it on Roy if you want, but up by 6 that late I want my safeties hovering near our end zone. Neither was when it counted.
     - At the end of the 1st half, does anyone else remember them not calling the time out when Crayton was tackled inbounds and the clock ran out? They were then on the Washington 31—FG territory.

OK, all of this leads me this sad morning to state the obvious: Parcells is assembling some excellent talent; he’s a great scout. But he’s a poor gameday coach, fleaflickers aside. He leaves his base D in too often instead of situational substitutions. He hates blitzing when the best defenses today blitz frequently. He plays too conservatively on offense. He asks his players to not lose instead of winning (especially the QB).

And if you’d prefer to blame these sins on the coordinators, then recall that Zimmer was constructing excellent defenses before Parcells got here, and Payton is a Parcells hire.

This game doesn’t bother me as a Cowboy fan that much because it will go down as a fluke. If the Skins would have crushed us or just smash mouth beat us, that would have been different. Everyone knew that was the Cowboys game, including the Cowboys.
This will be a good lesson for them.
All in all though, they looked great on Defense.
I agree, they had a conservative offense…and Drew was not throwing to well towards the end.
Redskins will find a way to re-pay Dallas throughout the season…we should be paying attention to the Giants and their “freebee home game”.

As soon as i saw the Boys in the BLUE THROWBACKS I figured we were in trouble. I lgogled and searced ecerywhere for the W-L record for the Boys in Blue in vain. Anyone have that nugget?

repeat after me…IN TUNA WE TRUST!IN TUNA WE TRUST!IN TUNA WE TRUST!

Twerent,

Absolutely, I thought Ellis was held too. There was no good shot of it, but from a distance, he was clearly spun around, and had to jerk himself free.

Did anyone else question the play right before the two minute warning? It seemed to me that they just threw away a play, trying to run one before the warning. I would use the two minute timeout to set a play and get a first down. At that point they only needed 10-15 yards to get in fg range. There are plenty of excuses that could be made about this game, but the bottom line is that they didn’t finish off a clearly dominated team. The defense (particularly Zimmer’s very conservative play calling; you’d think after nearly losing last week because of giving up a fourth and long, that you’d want to pressure the qb a bit more) played great, but gave up aggressiveness and let a speedy wr beat them off the line 2 times, and that was all it took.

The Deadskins got one handed to them…bottom line.
We’ll get them in D.C.
Anyhow…what good is a rivalry if the other team doesn’t win, even if it’s been 10 years.
We still own the ’Skins.

Ok Ok

Many things to blame for this loss. JD does have somewhat of a point. The coaching ultimately lost this game. If we try to win games by only scoring 13 points this season, we will lose most of them. Our defense is too young and still in the process of gelling to rely on 100%. Our offense was getting stuffed when we tried to run the ball.

We needed to pass more often in the 3rd qtr to keep those skins safties honest. They were creeping up in the box. If you are only getting 2 – 2.5 yrds per carry you will go 3 and out every time. Our offense did not do a good job keeping our defense off the field. The defense was noticably tired because of this in the 4th. Bledsoe was making erratic throws most of the game and wasn’t getting blitzed much either. Where was the play action the whole game? Not many down the field passes. Parcells and Payton were so commited to the damn run to try to run down the clock they forgot that they should WIN the game. If we think we can win by scoring only 13 points per game they need to stop smoking crack. This loss is infuriatingly awful. This was the mostly the coaches fault, the play calling was horrid.

chris
Newman goes to the slot when AG is in. It wasn’t the D fault. It was the teams fault, the D gave up two plays but we can’t win many games with only 13 points period.

Ok that one really hurt. But a few good things came out of that game. The Spears, Canty, and Ferguson line was all over the quarterback the whole game. Ware seems to be coming around. But the real steal of this class could be Petitti. I just don’t see a lot of missed blocks on his side. This could be the best rookie class ever.

JayDub,

Definitely right on Petitti. “Statue” Bledsoe, wasn’t pressured at all. Hey, it wasn’t perfect (ie, we lost), but I’m pretty happy with the pass protection. I wish they would blow more people off with the run, however.

They need to cut Cortez for missing that field goal. Play calling sucked, why the hell do you call pass plays when you are up with 3 minutes left? Why the hell is Newman not on Moss, we all now Moss can only do one thing and that is run straight down the field, fast guy on fast guy. Can we please stop using a prevent defense, its the worst thing possible. Cut Cortez.

The one thing that is GLARING.
The Redskins are really nothing! They will get beat badly, and I am sure when we play them on their turf, we will win big just because of this.
Joe Gibbs will retire at the end of this year…in shame…just like spurrier.
I have been a Cowboys fan for 35 years and have seen all of the greats!
Rentzel, Golden Richards, Drew Pearson, Staubach, White, Aikman, Irvin and Smith.
This years team has a lot of potential and this is a hard lesson learned, we will find out how much we learned next week against the 49ers.

I still believe we are Playoff bound this year!

Well,one thing is for sure……any and probably every team will be trying to exploit that play several times a game(the two long TD’s) so I hope we get that fixed!Gotta play the full 60 minutes,ya can’t relax and coast in this parity filled NFL!And that includes the coaches on both sides of the ball!We let this one slip right through our fingers BUT it’s only one game and no one got hurt! Other news……Vick has a pulled hammy,TO suffered an abdominal strain,Raiders lost Curry for the season….a win next Sunday will have us at 2-1!

Even after all the favorables/mistakes/penaltities/conserative play calling that gave t the redskins the opportunity to score I don’t get it. everyone knows when gibbs finds something that works he stays with it. Parcells said he knew they were in trouble when they scored the first td 13-7…why didn’t the defence make an adjustment..I mean patton went off the field, jacobs was hurt the only receiver they had was moss and they score on the same play twice? Play pre-vent, commit pass interference put someone on the #$@! goal line.
Not Roys fault..One of the main goals in off season and draft was to free up Roy and then they put him back in jail …covering deep
first round 2006 dallas Cowboys select Jason Allen Fs

TM,

The He11 it isn’t Roy Williams fault.This loss is ALL ROY WILLIAMS FAULT, STOP APOLOGISING FOR THIS GUY, This idiot doesn’t understand what his job is. How hard is it to not allow a reciever to get behind you. He was over the top coverage and he blew again, like he always does.Three times in the last 6 minutes he got burned, two for touchdowns and one was under thrown and he couldn’t catch that.Its time to move Roy to linebacker in the nickel defense or get him off the field, he’s a liability out there.

Cowboys have the weapons this year to do the job!….I am not sure the correct plays were called and Drew Bledsoe looked like a limp fish some of those mickey mouse throws into the dirt just explained why we need a quarterback. I wonder if Troy will consider coming out of retirement?

Derrick,

This loss is all Roy’s fault? Huh? Maybe he got beat on three plays, but there’s plenty of blame to hand around. No blitzing. No pressure on Brunell by the D-Line.

And why oh why did the offense go comatose for so long? We should have had at least 16 points by then. Bad, bad play calling. I blame the coaches most of all.

My advice to Jerry is cool it with the Botox and spend your money on a decent quarterback. The Coaches blew this game..they were totally out of touch. Redskins were beaten in all departments and only had 3 effective plays the whole game. Our coaches gave them the game with not keeping the pressure on the wheelchair Qb of redskins…that guys is so old he is on SSI benifits. We donated them this one….we wern’t beaten, that was our Katrina Donation…enjoy it the Cowboys will be back

Okay, Okay, the Skins got one in the end at Dallas. Here is why.

- Conservative play calling. 13 points is not enough to start trying to wind down the clock.

 - Bledsoe’s Ball started to dive on him at the end in the short to mid passing attack. I don’t know why.

 - RWilliams was looking for a big hit underneath and got burned twice yes. But Glenn was not in position. AGlenn is supposed to cover behind the reciever, RWIlliams is supposed to ‘help’ overtop. Even if the ball gets past the safety underneath, how did moss ramble in untouched?

 - If you look closely at the last bomb to Moss, you will see JFerguson our big bonus man getting stood up by the center. Brunell had all the space to step up and bombs away. Our very expensive NT needs to collapse the pocket against the CENTER ALONE!!!!!!!!! At least LGLover would have been active enough to make Brunell move to the side so he wouldn’t have put those two passes right on the mark.

Remnant

5 sacks, pressures the whole game, what game were you watching.

by the way, those three plays by the overrrated Roy Williams cost us the games, period

Derrick,

Roy Williams is the HELP in the cover two. Moss will get behind ANY SAFETY IN THE LEAGUE IF YOU GIVE HIM ENOUGH TIME!!!!!! You can’t touch the receiver after 5 yards what did you want him to do??? Glenn got burned and let Moss Behind him.

 Bledsoe started to fixate on his first options, hence all the short throws to TGlenn at the end. Why do you not throw to KJ, or JWitten, or Crayton with the great hands?? Cause your first read is TGlenn.

Alan t Dot,

Glover was in the game on that play. they played a 4 man line

It’s not Roy’s fault, he took the blame, but we learned last year he can’t cover deep. it’s the coaches job to put the player in position to use their specific talents to win.
I don’t even blame the coaches for the first one but the second time same play same coverage is HARD to understand unless Roy is the best option we have at FS.
The other teams know the best way to beat the cowboys is throw deep especially on 4th down!
 as I said before
first round 2006 draft the cowboys are going to select a FS.

Derrick,

how many of those sacks did RWilliams get? He was a force all over the field untill he couldn’t cover both underneath and overtop at the end in Cover two. Not surprised because it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SAFETY TO GET BEHIND MOSS AFTER 5 YARDS. Yes his help could have been better Over top, but underneath is all AGLenn.

Roy was too aggressive on those deep balls. He underestimated Moss’s speed. Aaron Glenn was playing his man correctly. Safety help is supposed to be there for deep balls towards the middle of the field. Glenn probably should have made the tackle on the first ball but in both cases Williams has deep responsibility.

Derrick,

Glover had pushed his man through the pocket already.

Joel,

the Safety helps overtop not behind the receiver.

I have been a Cowboys fan for along time now, and the last 7 years has been nothing but lousy play calling, when will the Cowoys get a Offenseive Cord that can put points on the board, last year that only scored more than 20 points 5 times everything else was under 20 points. the Defense is on the field to long thats why the get burnt for big plays, ie San Diego, and now Washington with a very sad offense. Can some one tell me When the Boys will play like the Boys

Alan T dot,

What do you think the job of a safety in the cover two, DONT LET THE RECIEVER GET BEHIND YOU, how hard is that, I guess its to much to ask of Roy Williams, since he was burnt three times.

I think you better go back and watch the last two drives of the Cowboys, Bledsoe didn’t fixate on Glenn at all, he threw to witten, Crayton,Glenn and KJ, no fixation there.

If you want to complain about the play calling the whole game for not throwing the ball to midrange routes, I agree, but thats not Bledsoes fault, thats the play calling, I knew we were in trouble when we opened the game with all these short roll outs for three yard passes. You have to stretch the field more than twice a game.

Awwwww….quit your crying…we finally beat you guys and it’s the penalties, bla bla…I read all these people wrote “The Cowboys really won, just a fluke” Hey, tough ! You can count this as a Cowboys win for outplaying the Skins for 55 minutes and blowing it if you’ll give us back the many games you guys stole from us in the last seconds over the years…

As for Williams, I agree with many, he shouldn’t be given the deep responsibility if he can’t keep up. Hopefully you’ll dump him…But I’d take him in a heartbeat and find a better use for him, he knocks the snot out of people.

See ya’ back here in DC later this year…I hope we pull off another miracle ! We still owe you a few…

Derrick,

both forth down passes were to Glenn.

Late passes to Glenn, The short one – three yards when 4 were needed – and the one that got knocked out and was almost a fumble. Sorry that was a third down play. You are right.

Alan, you can Apologize for Roy all you want, he cant play cover two safety, he was twenty yards from the line and responsible for his half of the field and not to allow any reciever on his side to get by him, and he blew it time and time again. Its not Glenns fault, he was suppose to have Roy over the top in coverage, and Roy blew it, just admit it and stop covering up for this guy, he is way overrated.

I just want to first say I love your guys comments. It seems that everyone that comments on this blog knows what their talking about. I have been an avid Cowboys fan since I can remember and just can’t get enough of them. I come on this site at least once a day and read everyones comments but have yet to make one myself leaving the intelligent comments to you guys. But being that last night I tossed and turned all night and woke up this morning feeling disgusted I feel I need to let my concerns out to who better the best fans in the world.
Actually my only concern is after watching that game I felt the cowboys when they pressured the Quarterback looked like one hell of a defense. I mean when was the last time the Cowboys retained 5 sacks in one game along with all those hurries that distrupted the Redskins timing all day. At the end of the game we went conservative on defense and got are asses handed to us. So my question is because the Cowboys were defeated the way they were. How will they prepare for passing games like the Eagles, Moss and the Raiders, Kansas City, Denver, St.Louis, Carolina, and even the Lions late in the season?

Roy is not overrared. Parcels’ famous quote is “he plays to the strengths of the players he has” Roy is not a cover saftey!

Popint number 2 if your going to drop him in coverage over the top Henry or Newman should have moved to the slot Moss was the only one who could have won that game. It should be your best cover guy on their best WR all game. Glenn is not our best corner.

Just llike Owens couldnt win the game for Philly with hall on him all game… Difference being Atlanta would disrupt the route early so the timing for the deep ball wouldnt be there. I wouldnt care if Moss had 200 yrds all game just dont let him kill ya.
In the 4th the play callling was terrible on both sides of the ball No pressure on defense and a coservative offense.

This was not Paytons fault even though he is OC dont think he wont lose the job if he doesnt follow big bills game plan

sorry bout the typing

BigDfanatic,

I really think that Dallas should seriously think of moving Roy to linebacker in the nickel package and put someone back in the cover two at safety who could actually cover a reciever. I think randy Moss will be licking his lips in two weeks at the thought of go routes all day long if roy is back there.

BDF,

I don’t think you will see the Cowboys stop blitzing late in games anymore. I think Parcells was talking to the players AND DCo-ordinator Zimmer when he mentioned that we need to learn how to end the show.

Derrick,

I agree, RWIlliams could be better at pass defence. He is way better at stuffing the run, blitzing and making big hits on the short to medium pass over the middle. His deep coverage is not great. But he evidently is better than anyone else on the Cowboys or else they should have had him at LB in the cover two. That is a coaching error. Or the GM’s fault for a lack of depth.
Even still, his responsibility in not to get behind the WR. He is supposed to help over the top, which means he is between the line of scrimmage and the WR. The CB is Supposed to be between the WR and the goal line. AGlenn got burned. Read Rafeals’ comments at the top of this page.

Roy Williams overrated? What about the sack and the FF? ALL you have to do is put Reeves in there for him on very long plays. Roy needs to sit on 3rd or 4th down with 15 or more yards to go. You know a bomb is coming. The guys a great SS who uses his ability to blitz and run stop. He cant run fast and cover Santana Moss. I know a ton of CB’s that cant either.

Glenn won us the game last week, and lost us this game by not keeping up with Moss. So we have to stop with “the guys bad” or anything. Their #1 reciever should be Henry’s man, regardless. Thats what I say. The guy is a pro bowl caliber CB. Our PREVENT needs work, major work. I say put 4 men on the line, our best Pass Rushers. Put Dat in the middle, with T-New, Glenn, and Reeves as SS on one side and Henry, Nate, and Pile on the other side. Reeves and Pile go deep and cover. They can’t hit hard or tackle well but they will keep up with the WRs.

Our pass block was great, but our run block has to improve. JJ needs to get going because the Redskins weren’t blitzing alot.

Petiti and Canty and Spears all looked good.

Stupid play calling lost us the game at the end. Parcells needs to call the plays. I dont like how Payton calls a game. I liked the one trick play, but thats about it.

What about Bledsoe’s underthrows in the 4th? I dunno if he was tired or what was going on, but that cost us some 1st downs.

We need to play Price. We cost us Polite’s spot to play the guy one play? That was stupid. Crayton didnt do anything last night so I would have put Price, a proven player, in on the last series.

And whoever says the Redskins are better then the Cowboys, they have no idea what they’re talking about. The Boys have to work on their Prevent defense. The Redskins need to work on everything but the bomb play to Moss. We handed them this game. We cant say we’re a SB sleeper and then say we’re going to have a high draft pick. We won last week when we were supposed to lose and lost this week when we were supposed to win. We haven’t come close to gelling yet and with experiece will be a team to reckon with.

Thanks Alantdot I needed that seconded because going into Oakland in two weeks from now could of been scary playing conservative against them. Oakland is designed for their O-line to give Collins lots of time so their receivers can get up field. I think if Zimmer and BP can just trust in aggressive Defense we can overcome such a disappointment.

Man I am not looking forward to that Oakland Game. Moss eats us up every time.

The Was the Worst way to lose!!! and to the freakin skins. My heart sunk into my stomach after watching that atrocity.

Lou,

good points, I wonder if having witten play FB at times is a good idea. Did Ware get us more than a few Holding calls against the Redskins? And yes, Canty and Spears looked great!!!

BigDfanatic,

What are you talking about with the Conservative play calling on defense, on offense, I agree.Zimmer isn’t the problem with this team, he called a great game. The Cowboys played great defense all night and but for six minutes at the end of the game lost it because of Roy Williams. here are the last two washington drives, note the downs, pressures, blitzes and sacks, what was conservative, did you watch the same game.

the first play of the drive was thrown behind the reciever.
The second play, Dallas had pressure, forced Brunnel out of the pocket to the right and threw a 11 yard pass to the Cooley, first down.

The third play was a pass that was overthrown down the sideline, great coverage by henry.
The forth play was a blitz and sack by Williams for 17 yard loss.
The fifth play, pressure forced brunnel out of the pocket for a 25 yard run, forth down and two.

The sixth play, newman goes in motion with thrash and then stops at the end of the line, Dallas blitzes on the play, thrash runs a three yard out, catches the ball and runs down the sideline for twenty yards. roy and others blitz.Newman standing there lost.1st down

Next play, false start.
next play first down, deep pass down the seam, Roy cant catch an easy pass for an INT at the goal line.
next play second down, brunnell pressured out of pocket to the left, throws ball away. third down,Coleman pressuring.
third down, pass to Betts on a slant, incomplete.
forth down and fifteen, Pass down the middle deep, Roy bit on play,caught looking inside, touchdown.

next time Washington had the Ball,

first play, Brunnell shot gun throws into the flat for ten yards.
second play, bomb down the field, Roy blown coverage allowing Moss to get by him, touchdown

Derrick
Don’t blame Roy, how many games do you think we can win with 13 points?? Roy and AG got beat twice. Yes both of them. The question is was our Offence that bad or is Washington that good If we only give up 14 points two turnovers and five sacks we should win. This is a big loss because we are 0-1 in the division. Now we need to beat NY or Philly twice and at least slit with the other one and beat Washington. Right now I’m looking at 3-3 slit with all. I think we can go into the Philly game 3-1 I just hope Oak win next week so they wont be 0-3 when we see them.

Lou
I wouldnt have taken out Crayton for Price nobody but Glenn did anything last night. We didn’t play to win last night.

Aw,
Why is it that Roy Williams doesn’t take any heat ever for his play on this team. He had a forced fumble at the end of the half with 9 seconds left, meant nothing, no points off of it. Has a sack for 17 yards, the next play Brunnell runs for 25 yeards and then Roy blows coverage and allows two touchdowns, it was cover two, his position as a safety was to not let any wide reciever get by him on his side of the field, thats his job, period and he blew it. You can blame Glenn for getting a bump at the line, but Roy had a twenty yard cousion and he still let Moss get by him. I’m telling you Roy Williams needs to be moved to Linebacker fulltime or linebacker in the Nickel, he’s brutal at cover safety, he’s out of position in my opinion, The more I watch him the more I think he’s a linebacker not a safety.

Where the hell was Keith Davis when Glenn was getting burned?

Cash,
It was cover two, Davis is responsible for his side of the field.

yeah lou we played not to lose like we did with campo, 3rd and 15 and we dont take a shot. Instead of hitting the gorilla in the mouth we played the percentages and rolled snake eyes. parcells played to his perception of this teams weakness and it happened.
This team learned allot last night. After last year I thought we had finally stopped catching passes short of the first down marker too but now thats happing again.
This offense has so many weapons we cant get them all on the field or won’t. Hopefully they will realize what they have and use it.

Derrick,

RWilliams is not a LB. Maybe a situational nickel linebacker, but maybe he needs to be on the bench during Fourth and Long.

AW,

exactly right about 13 points not being enough and what this loss does regarding divisional tiebreakers. I never understood why Glenn played the outside in the nickel and TNewman plays the slot? Shouldn’t a savvy CB like Glenn know to sell out and take down Moss if he is getting beat?

we were jinxed the whole night, julius needing 90 yds or so to join an elite group rushing for 1000 in 10 first games, bill parcells 77-0 record when leading at anytime in 4th quarter, and enshrining the triplets was a big mistake to do on a regular season game but the biggest mistake in my opinion was when leading 10-0 late in a game and faced with a first and 15 from the redskins 25 yd line you have to be aggressive and not run tyler thompson 3 plays in a row up the gut to set up for a fg!!!???a td would have gave the redskins 3 scores to win but the moral got a boost needing only 2 scores. no offense to thompson and i`m glad he made the team but at 10-0 in the 4th is not a time to give game experience and also why activate price and put him in 1 play for a screen pass for minus 1 yd? a blocking fb could have been more useful. hopefully the boys will learn from this.

Derrick
Roy and AG got beat not just Roy if AG didn’t go for the pick it wouldnt have been a TD on the second one. Roy is not at his best when he is coving but 13 points is not enough. People get beat all the time giving up 14 points is good from what we were doing last year. If this keeps going on week after week I will be right there with you but right now Roy didn’t loose this game for us. Its not his fault we didn’t turn this turnover into points. If you want to come down on something let it be the Offence. By the way Roy sucked last year……

Derrick,

What I was trying to say is that ON THOSE PLAYS Roy may have missed his coverage, but the D-Line also got no pressure and the d#$@ coaching staff sent no blitzes to get to Brunell before someone got open. We all know Roy doesn’t excel at coverage, so the coaches should have, too. They need to stop playing so conservatively.

Back in the days of Jimmy, we would have thrown away at Washington’s 8 man fronts all night long, whatever the score. Now with Payton and BP, we run Thompson three times in a row. Our coaching lost us this game, and will likely lose us more this year.

AW,

Why didn’t Pile play in that situation? Wasn’t Roy playing FS last year a lot?

Derrick,

Zimmer stop calling blitzes with 5 mins left in the game. That was conservative play calling. But regardless 13 points is not enough.

AlanTdot
I don’t know either but I think Washington would have moved Moss to the slot if Glenn was playing it. I think that is the mach up they wanted. The only way to get by that is for one of your corner so blanket a WR. I don’t think T-New has ever said that he wants to cover the other team best WR.

On a positive note, we played 3 and a half quaters of good football.

You Cowboys crying about the officials are really trying to find an excuse. What about that hit Sean Taylor put on your receiver? That was clearly a fumble and the call went your way. Skins fan.

Remnant,
What do you want Zimmer to do, blitz every play, read the play by play of the two drives of washington, I posted, scroll up, the only person that made the mistakes on those two drives was ROY WILLIAMS, and you guys all say it wasn’t his fault, but the comments after the game by roy williams himself, was he made the mistakes, I guess he must be wrong, you people make excuse after excuse for this guy.

AlanTdot,

Please tell me why Roy Williams wouldn’t be better suited playing Linebacker, because I think he is better suited for linebacker than safety.He has the quickness, hits hard, can tackle and can with no problem put on 15 lbs with no effect to his quickness, which would put him at around 245-250lbs.

AlanTdot
Roy played all of last year as a FS. And Pile went in for KD. I don’t know what Pile can do. Is everybody forgetting if AG didn’t go for the pick it wouldnt have been a TD on the second one.

Derrick

Roy is a SS. AG made a comment after the game saying it was his fault so is he wrong???? saying on the 2nd TD given up when he went for the pick. I’m not making any excuses for Roy he messed up but so did AG and those two mistake didn’t cost us the game.

we blitzed San Diego every play. Including when they were about to score and we managed to stop them, why not blitz brunell. We had pressured him all night………Ware, Spears, Canty, Ellis and Glover were all over the guy. He was never comfortable in the pocket until we start playing a prevent defense.

All prevent does is prevent you from winning a football game. We gave Washington that game. They wanted it more than us and our guys did not make the plays it took to win. I was really uncomfortable the whole time we had 10 and 13 points just thinking we are doing a good job of stopping em, but how long in the heat can it hold up. We got to finish games better than this or we won’t be above 500 this year either! I guess the answer was 56 minutes.

Too bad, big disappointment. No blame should be placed on any of the penalties or refs……….you got to overcome that crap. We did not. We played a much better game and lost. Which is a big disappointment, I for one am for living and dying by the blitz……….Roy Williams got beat anyway why not send him after Brunell. Why not stay in the Parcells coveted 3-4 that we used all night to stop Washington?

Cost me money too………..have to buy drinks for a Redskin fan tonight at the beach. At least I can drink with him to ease the pain, hope he does not notice the tear in my beer.

Washingtons 12 plays last two drives,

Two blitzes, 1 sack, 1 false start penealty
four qbs pressures, brunnell threw the ball away twice
two forth down plays, 4th and 2 and 4th and 15
1 rush for 25 yards (brunnell)
5 incomplete passes
1 missed INT-roy williams
2 touchdowns on roy williams blown coverage.

Zimmer didnt adjust to what was going on on the field after glenn got beaten for the first touchdown he sould have moved newman outside after all he was on him for most of the gameas well the offense wasnt aggressive like they were in sandiego too much of a west coast philosophy last night which goes against bledsoes strengths

seeing Brunell scramble for 25 was painful. Another missed tackle! They guy ain’t exactly got Mike Vick Speed!

Billy Cundiff is healthy he makes a 41 yard field goal we win the game 16 to 14 unless Washington makes two extra point attmepts at two with success……….so the best they do is tie us at 16 each.

Not sure Cortez is not our biggest problem……..while I ain’t exactly for spending draft picks for kickers ……….we might need somebody that can make 41 yarders………Cundiff was money from 45 on in……..just don’t ask him to kick beyond that!

Was anybody at the Game? Was it really 100 degrees inside the stadium……..I wonder how much of a factor that was for the Dallas WR and our other Track Stars…….Aaron Glenn and Roy Williams the Silver and Bronze winners…….Gold went to Moss.

Name me a better SS in the NFC other than Brian Dawkins. Roy’s #2. Can Sean Taylor cover? No. Was his play on Crayton huge? Yeah. Thats what Roy can do. He scares ppl to go over the middle. His sack gave the O great field position.

We needed to open lanes for Julius and have him run more. I like A Train and Thompson, but not against good-great defenses. I really liked the Trips formation and 5 wide, but I say spread them out more and run outs alot. KJ, Witten, and even Crayton are good possesion recievers and can run a quick out and pick up 6 yards.

Anyone hear any mediots saying the Cowboys are garbage or anything? Because last week they were the sleepers for the Super Bowl, now there probably the 3rd weakest team in the NFC according to them.

And for the Redskins, this is the 2nd year out of 3 that they started 2-0. How’s that worked out?

Julius did not touch the ball 25 times. Before I got handing the ball to A Train I make sure JJ is goint to rush 25 times……….MINIMUM> That one series near the goal line with Anthony Thomas was painful to watch. That is exactly where JJ is good at getting into the end zone!

I am not going to jump on the Roy Williams is awful bandwagon…..I think he is great…….i just want my Safety to be that………the Safety……..or send him on the Blitz………if he was blitzing Brunell I don/t think Brunell would have hit Moss for a TD. Aaron Glenn will be fine, but I also agree with the let Henry or Newman cover Moss. He is obviously there best threat. Let Henry or Newman take their number 2 guy also. I mean Glenn won the game on a last second play last week, I don’t see him as a failure.

Derrick,

RWilliams is not a LB. Would you like to see him take on a pulling guard?? How about trying to contain the edge against a 280lb TE?? Playing a position is not only about body size. Have you EVER seen RWIlliams take on a lineman? RoyWilliams is great coming in on the blitz and popping possesion catches over the middle, and stuffing the RB when he pops out of the hole. He is not an LB.

Lou
Sean Taylor can cover a lot better than Roy. Taylor can hit like Roy but he can also cover.

AW,

Davis wasn’t playing the other side as FS?? Where was he? On the bench???

AW,

Davis wasn’t playing the other side as FS?? Where was he? On the bench???

Wow…all of these once-mighty Cowboy’s fans turn into finger-pointing crybabies after losing the home opener….what’s gonna happen when the rest of the league exploits your underwhelming offense and your half a secondary (one decent corner, and a hard-hitting-no-covering-safety)?

AlanTDot,
The he11 he isn’t. Now who out of these 5 who is the hardest hitter, best tackler, your next OLB, ROY WILLIAMS, where he is going to be moved next year.He sucks as a cover safety.

Burnett, Kevin LB 6-2 239
Nguyen, Dat LB 5-11 238
Shanle, Scott LB 6-2 237
Singleton, Al LB 6-2 236
Williams, Roy S 6-0 230 just add a biscuit and there you go

Derrick,

once again, the difference between the first four and Williams is the first Four have been wrestling pulling guards and 280lb TE’s since their freshman year.

IT WAS NOT ROY WILLIAMS’ FAULT. So his coverage skills aren’t all that- but hey, how were DARREN WOODSON’S coverages skills when he played.

If we score 21 plus point on the skins like we should have- could have- then we win the game. —-

but we were playing not to lose, and Washington was playing to win, opening it up towards the end- cuz they had to- and they got lucky.

Our OFFENSE lost it for us. We’ve got to look deeper than just the last few minutes guys to lay blame guys- we were setting ourselves up for a meltdown from the end of the 1st half with our conservative game plan.

BEING TOO AFRAID TO MAKE A MISTAKE WAS A MISTAKE.

And REMEMBER- Aaron Glenn was the hero last week against san diego. How soon we forget….

Dat played the 3-4 in college, but the rest haven’t

Linebackers in the 3/4 or 4/3 take on Guards and monster TE’s.

Just my opinion. You are welcome to yours.

I can’t believe everyone is over reacting already after just one loss. This team is still very young so you have to expect games like this one. Does anyone remember back in 1991 when the Cowboys won their opener at Cleveland & them lost to Washington by 2 points the following week at home? I believe they also lost to Philly 27-0 early in the season. They ended up going 11-5 that year after starting the season 6-5. They also had ups & downs during the early part of that year. I’m not saying that this year will be the same as 91, but there’s a good possibility. This team has a lot of young talent. You never know what could happen.

ROY WILLIAMS APOLOGIST,sign below

RICH
ALANTDOT

Derrick,

Wow. Yet another theboys.com poster to ignore.
 What is so difficult about respecting somone’s point if it differs from your own??
RWilliams is one of the top 6 SS in the NFL. He is not a FS and never will be.

As a native Texan who lives in 49ers and Raiders country, it was great to see the Cowboys on MNF. On the other hand, it also broke my heart. There were so many times our guys got tackled and the refs didn’t call any holding penalties. What gives? Is it because they were doing it so much that the refs didn’t want to call the penalties to slow down the game? Is Joe Gibbs like Pat Riley? Coaching his players to just foul, foul, foul and hope the refs let it go? Geez! One play they are sacking Brunell for a loss, then next he gets like a 20-yard run up the middle without being touched? What gives? I think I’ll just root for the Saints the rest of year, they need all the support they can get.

Yes, it was really 100 degrees on the field and felt like nearly 100% humidity. The hottest feeling game I’ve been to in years as a season ticket holder. But both teams had to play in it.

OK, on a new topic….

Rookie Report

• Petitti. Very solid protection. 0 sacks allowed. Decent push rushing.
• Thompson. 3 carries, 4 yards rushing. 3 kick returns, 31.3. avg. Good.
• Canty. 1 sack, 1 tackle, 1 assist. Nice, solid game.
• Spears. Half sack, 1 tackle, 1 assist. Very solid at the point of attack.
• Ware. Where was Ware? 0 sacks, 2 tackles, 2 assists. Too quiet, but not bad.

4 good performances and 1 that was fine from rookies. That’s building from the ground up like we haven’t seen in years. Maybe losing will remind the staff that we’re really in this for longer than just this year.

Also on a positive note for the youngsters, Price barely saw the field. Meaning that 2nd year Crayton played plenty. As did 2nd year players Pierce (TE), Copper (good ST play), and Reeves. JJ and McBriar continue to impress.

Alan, sorry to dissapoint you, but I have never been to that site you described, but if you want to drink the roy williams Koolaid, thats up to you, I’ve opened my eyes to his so called HYPE, and can see clearly now, the guy cant play safety anymore and the number one rule of a safety is, YOU CANT GET BEAT DEEP, and he was beat three times in the fourth quarter which two cost us the game, period. Roy just wants to be on sportscenters highlight package with his BIG HITS, THE BIG HITS WONT WIN THE GAMES.

ughh, im getting tired of this guy ranting about how roy is overrated…as far as being a playmaker, mean, and aggressive, roy is just as good as any saftey in the league…his pass coverage is bad, but i love his aggression…did you see him sling brunell on the 17 yd loss?? that was awesome; like my friend said last night, “man, he is MEAN!” people forget that he is a probowl calibur player…2 yrs ago when he made the probowl no one was bitching about his coverage skills…why criticize make him the skapegoat now when it wasnt his fault…he wasnt covering moss, aaron glenn was…blame the glenn for blowing the tackle on moss, and henry for disrupting roy’s possible int in the endzone, but to call roy overrated, in my opinion, is ludicrus.

Remnant,

I agree, Petitti, Canty and Spears look better and better every series their out there. I would like to get Burnnett out there too.

Face it the “Boys” suck ! I’m a Skins fan and I’ll admit it, the “Skins” suck too. But we still beat you guys. Both teams have good defenses, but both are in need of a good QB before they can compete with the likes of Philly and Atlanta.

Wow, thanks for the entertainment. My god, what a satisfying experience reading all your pathetic whining on the same night the “triplets” get inducted. I’m glad ABC didn’t show them. Nobody cares anymore!

WAA WAA “Cortez sucks…Parcells sucks…Payton sucks…Bledsoe sucks”

Yeah, any of you could have called a better game!

The Cowgirls lost because of one simple reason: NO HEART. Stick that in your ring of honor!

We’ll kick yer ass again in DC. Only ugly kids grow up to be cowboys.

hehe

And only two things come outta Texas – Steers and Queers!!

Remnant, Ware got tossed around like a piece of meat by Samuels.

rich, Darren Woodson had nice coverage skills for a SS. The guy ran a 4.4 40.

Wow, these pathetic foreskins fans looking in on us… they won and yet they STILL sound bitter.

They get lucky TWICE in 16 GAMES and it’s like they won the Superbowl. Reminds me of the time the cardinals brought down the goalposts after they beat the Cowboys a few years back. lol.

I’d expect that from arizona’s fans, but not washington’s. Kinda feel sorry for what they’ve become. Their franchise asin’t NEVER gonna be on top again. And NONE of us would trade our team for theirs- not our roster, our history, our legacy- well, maybe their kicker.

The skins only exist do be Dallas’ rival. While we’ve grown BORED of this one-sided “rivalry”, they’ll always define themselves by beating Dallas.

Just curious,

Why would a coach who knows so much about the game, who prepares his team so well, who knows talent when he sees it, have so much trouble during the game? Few adjustments. Lame play calling. Very odd. And he obviously thinks the conservative play calling is the right way to go, or he’d do it differently himself. Or hire a new OC.

I can’t think of another head coach in any sport who has been able to overcome such a glaring onfield weakness. Thoughts?

Cash,

Ware held up much better this game on running plays, but he was definitely manhandled when trying to rush the passer. Concerning.

And DERRICK, you’re not gonna go all basketcase on us and freak everytime somebody disagrees with you, are you?

You were the one defending that HORRIBLE play calling last night- You said with the score as it was, Dallas shouldn’t do anything “stupid.” Well, THAT was stupid….

Imagine if back in the 1992 championship game, when we had a 4 point lead on the 49ers, we ran the ball instead of being aggressive and throwing the slant to Harper? We’d have LOST that game.

Monday night against a mediocre team like the foreskins, ya gotta open up and play like you expect to WIN, like you got a pair! An ugly win wasn’t gonna cut it last night.

Our offense was stagnant, and as a result, our defense was on the field WAY too long and was exhausted.

The offense set us up to lose when they started with their laughably conservative offense, again which YOU defended.

Our defense is good, but they can’t win the game for us all by themselves. Roy is one of our few probowlers- any team would kill to have him on their roster. Get a grip, dude. We’ll win next week.

Remnant,

Samuels is a beast who had a vgood game. Ware will do better in Virginia.

The good news is that only their pride was hurt.

What is it about Redskins fans, they are only around when things are good. I went to the Cowboy game in DC last year and wore my Cowboys jersey. I was a little uneasy at first, but it didn’t take long for me to realize I wasn’t the only one. There must have been at least 20,000 Cowboy fans at that game.

This one hurt, but the Cowboys need to move on and focus on San Francisco.
Did you guys see what Julian Peterson said? He is guaranteeing a win against the cowboys this sunday.

alan
When did Julian Peterson start doing stand up???

When the skins won yesterday, they celebrated like they just won the superbowl! Losing 14 out of 16 will do that to you. the cowboys handed that game to washington. consider that an early christmas gift. in december we are taking it back.

Derrick:

I watched the same game you did. Yes, Roy blew it, but that is not his strength. I know it, you know it, and the Redskins know it. Who decided to put him in the position to mess up, not once, but three consecutive times?

Also, who called three yard slants on fourth and four?

Let’s face it, the better team won. The Cowboys completely outplayed the Redskins for 56 minutes, but a superior team knows enough to play for the full 60, and not to let mistakes that will let the other team back into it. They are conditioned to play for the full 60. They have the heart and intelligence to overcome adversity, like sacks and turnovers, and still win. The Redskins did all of those things last night. They were completely outplayed, yet found a way to win. Any other conclusion, like blaming the refs, players, or even coaches, is just crying, and ought to be beneath Cowboy fans. We have watched our team win that way, and we need to face their losing that way when it happens, and expect the team (players, coaches, and staff) learn from the defeat and do not let it happen again that way.

Before San Diego, I wrote that I expected Dallas would go 10-6, and would lose at least one winnable game, but I did not expect that game to be at San Diego. They made it close, but came through. All week, I was concerned about this one, mostly because everybody was ready to jump on the bandwagon, which is a trap for young players and those not used to winning big recently (which pretty much includes the whole roster, at this point.) The team will be fine IF THEY LEARN, and should still go 10-6.

Besides, I’d rather beat the Raiders, then take Washington at their home, when they have started thinking they are a possible playoff team.

Remnant: I thought Ware pulled a couple of holding calls as well, but I did see him get roughed up a bit which is to be expected of the young guy. I’m hopeful he will respond aggressively to get better.

This was the highlight of the Deadskins season. I guess we have to let them have their win since this is a close as they will get to the superbowl. I do think this will leave a bittter taste for years to come in the rookies mouth. This will cost the skins in the future.

Whats up Boys fans! I gotta say out here in Va(skinsville) its been murder at work today. People I didnt even know watched football were on my back with the redskins jerseys,shirts,and other faded and ugly artifacts. Its cool cuz they just won their superbowl! It wont shock to see them go 2-14 on the season-they should enjoy this just as they will be enjoying their vacation in January. To my fellow bloggers mistakes were made-we lost when we should have won. Plenty time to right the ship. Lets focus on the niners and raiders. The Bay Area Bashing sounds nice. To the faithful skins fans-ONE GAME and y’all are talking trash on our site? YOU have alot of nerve and alot of pride but thats it! Nothing is appealing about the franchise-ugly uniforms-coach-fans-owner etc. To top it all off you guys dont win that often! “DAMN right lets dump a cooler on Shmoe Gibbs after the game we may never get another chance!” Seriously I understand if I had been on the short end of the stick for so many years I be that way too! I cant imagine how it feels to root for something so bad only to be disappointed time and time again with no end in sight. Every year snyder brings in this guy or that guy and the skins are no better. When was the last great QB? Doug Williams?(was he even that great) Yet They still root for the guys! Rooting for the foreskins is kinda like betting on Mike Tyson for his next fight. Theboys.com bloggers(my familyand best fans in sports) to January we go!

It’s great to be a Cowboy. The passion of our fans, their knowledge of the team and the nuances of the players, play calling, etc, etc, etc. The sincere but considerate dialogue.

One thing I noticed,,,Parcels looked pained the whole second half. No matter how solid the defense or safe the offense, you gotta score points. I am amazed and very surprised that he never blew a gasket with someone/anyone on the side lines. Why?

Next time Skins!

Better dead than Red.

Remnant — thanks for pointing out the screw-up in not calling timeout at the end of the first-half. That kind of thing bothers the heck out of me, and for all of Parcells talk since he came to Dallas about having “smart” players and the media hype about all his two-minute situational coaching, you can cite to many examples of poor clock management by him over the last couple of years. Last year, remember that recovered fumble review in the end zone in the Giants game at the end of the first half? I remember screaming at the TV, “they’re gonna start the clock if we get overruled on the challenge, call time out!”

Anyway, as for last night’s game — we made mistakes and little things cost us, but didn’t anybody else just feel like it was kind of a flukey, freaky thing? It wasn’t really a choke or a disintegration — we’ve been around those. It was more like that game the ‘Boys stole from the Giants by the same score on the last-second Quincy-to-Antonio Bryant pass a few years ago. It’s not like we walked away from that game going: “Hey we’re really the better team.” The Redskins have an excellent D, and the Cowboys are still clearly better than they were last year when we beat them in the 2nd week. Just weird.

I love the Die Hard Cowboys fans. The people that bleed blue and silver. You gotta have a lot of heart to be a Cowboys fan. I am stationed out in California, and in the army we have two kinds of fans, Cowboys fans and Cowboy haters. The Cowboy fans preach their football team so much, that when then Cowboys lose, they are all their to jump on top of you. We don’t want you to just like our team. You either are with us or against us. Thats what it is to be a True cowboys fan. There are only a couple of other teams with fans that are like ours. for example, the eagles, the browns, the packers. I would say the raiders, but ever since their super bowl pounding the Raider nation has gotten weak.
These are my deep thoughts for the day as I have been getting ripped by every wannabe football fan here.

lost in the demise is Petiti. I don’t think I saw Tucker out there during the game. Petiti is playing like Jacobs never could. Let’s say the truth here: the cowboys are looking to have had a draft of the ages this year. At least as far as you can tell 2 weeks into the season. Even if one or two of the potential stars prove to be only be good, not great.

Think about it:

Ware – still learning. still getting stronger. may be able to dominate.
Spears – looks polished. has enough burst and strength. may be able to dominate.
Burnett – unproven but should compete
Barber – ordinary 4th round pick
Canty – strong enough to rotate with the starters. Seems special.
Beriault – more than serviceale as a back-up but facing tough knee problems
Petiti – already a starter. Madden said, he’d be a 1st round pick if the draft were today
Ratliff – made the roster. seems to be able to hold his own. will be an NFL player.

Now, if we had only selected Sproles with our 4th pick instead of Barber… then there’d be no doubt about it.

I find this thread very interesting in that nearly everyone (except the gloating a**holes from DC and even some of them) are so intent on placing blame. What I’ve seen and heard from the ‘Boys so far this season has been acknowledgements of responsibility for their own contribution in the weaknesses, failures, etc. For me, that’s an extremely positive sign in that the players are basically commiting themselves to improve. Not the same with so many other teams where there is adversarial commentary toward their teammates.

Let’s face it folks … we let down … we got beat by 2 perfectly executed scoring plays (they had to be perfect in order to work). Our offense didn’t gel as it did in SD last week. ST was much better this week. Defense was good and played well enough to secure the win under normal circumstances. Mistakes were made by all 4 teams (’Skins, ’Boys, Coaches, Refs). We expected the win as did the ’Boys and they forgot that a game is 60 minutes long … not 56. The comment that the conservative play of playing not to lose instead of playing to win struck a heatstring with me as the game seemed to really wind down in intensity once the score was 13-0. Too many scoring opportunities squandered on Offense and drive killer plays missed on Defense.

And in conclusion? It’s still early in the season and the ’Boys are not there yet. That was made obvious last night. Perhaps we as fans should ease up a bit and realize that there is a learning curve in process for the team. When that learning curve completes, I think we all will see what we prematurely have expected of them.

They’re still our team. They’re still our players. Let the competition’s fans bash them with their short-lived or soon-ended glory. Remember the last one standing wins. Let’s get there!

good perspective , Carioca. a couple more drafts like the one we just had, and we’ll have all but made up for Jerry’s horrible drafts….

I just saw snyder jumping up and down last night-

WOW. i never he knew he was such an animated little fanboy- like he just won the damn Superbowl. Thought he was a bit more dignified than that- just goes to show how much beating Dallas really means to washington, even when we’re not that good.

only thing worse would have been if he’d pulled out an umbrella covered with glitter and strutted around the field afterward like the Saints’ owner used to do after a win.

by the way, I live in San Francisco. The 49ers completely suck. If Julian Peterson is guaranteeing a win, then he’s proving himself to be one of the most insanely idiotic people on the planet. Can’t help people like that.

About the Redskins… for sure, their franchise exists only to give us Cowboys a comparison point. That’s the reality for the whole of the NFC east. Look a the Eagle’s past? Its a path of misery, dispair, let downs. Enough said.

Now, onto next week, the Cowboys are twice the team the 49ers are. We obviously will be fired up for the game. Our offense will hopefully to play with passion and be on a mission. Can’t be so afraid of trying. And if we get set-backs (e.g., bad calls), we’ll have to play on. About our defense, keep doing more of the same. Create pressure. Change up the front. And don’t play to conservatively. If we can just focus on the big play receiver when its 3rd and long — specially if he’s lined up against the 5’9" Glenn who isn’t as fast as Parcells thinks he is. Then we’ll be able to get a shout out for the whole 60 minutes.

I’ve been a Cowboy fan for almost 35 years now; not a record, but a bit long in the tooth. I remember, and still live for, the George Allen-1st time around “I-HATE-em” Cowboys-Redskins games; there hasn’t been one in this rivalry, since probaby 1996, really!

There is now!, after last night!

This is the most painful Cowboys, regular season loss, I can remember, in a looooonnnnng time; almost as painful as any one of the three Super Bowl losses (I’m from PA originally, and all my family are Steeler fans, I’m a Cowboy fan!)

Usually though, this is the type of miraculous win, the Cowboys pull out on their opponents, that has made American’s team so hated, by Redskins, Vikings, Steelers, 49’er, Green Bay, etc. fans!

Now, it happens to us! I HATE it; this has HURT for almost 24hrs, and will hurt all season; I think it really, frankly, messes up the entire season.

They had a realistic change, to go 4 – 0; which they needed; now, I’m not sure.

I can point to the Adams penalty, the Allen penalty, the missed field goal, etc.; but I belong to probably a small Cowboys club these days: INAFOB (I’m not a fan of Bill!).

Yes, I’ll commit the heresy, I’m not a fan, nor do I like Bill Parcells as coach of the Dallas Cowboys; I think he’s too egotistical, and too concerned about imposiing his imprinteur on the team; to a certain extent, you have to design your team around some available personnel; Landry did it; Jimmy did it; Parcells is too egotistical, bringing in all the old players, to do it!

At least Bledsoe is better than Vinnie; the Antonio Bryant thing was a disaster, brought on by his bringing in all his old receivers, vice giving the kid a chance to develop; I don’t excuse him, EVER, for the jersey incident, or his attitude on occasion; but I saw a young Michael Irvin there, maybe even more talent, and Bill knew it, and pushed him until he could get him out of town!

This conservative, ball control crap, that he tried in the 4th quarter, was a direct result of his philosophy, and his ego, and his desire to remake the 1980 Giants!

It’s nuts; this team has more talent already, on defense, than that team had, actually; these young studs of Canty, Ware, Spears, etc., are going to be awesome, in another year, or two. The offense has age on the line, QB, and WR, and we need another OUTSTANDING draft, as well as FA signings, next year, to actually get it up a level; maybe then, it will be okay, and we can only hope, Bill’s ego gets the better of him, and Jones drops off the face of the earth, and we can get a Great young coach in there, to take the ’Boy’s back to being a dominant team!

HEY!

If PETITTI would be drafted in the first round today, and CANTY could have been a first rounder, and JULIUS was first round caliber, then you throw in WARE and SPEARS—

… It’s like we’ve had FIVE quality 1st round pics in the last TWO years!!!!!

It’s almost like those two 1st round pics we gave up for Galloway never happened!

I like the sound of that!

Hold up, DALE.

First off, Yes- Parcells isn’t perfect. And I TOTALLY agree with you on the Bryant thing. But you’d better be prepared for the onslaught of Parcells worshipers here who will thrash you for that opinion. But I digress…

Parcells wasn’t calling the plays last night, as I’m sure you know. AND I don’t know if the conservative play calling is gonna be the rule. After all, they tore it up against the the Chargers on last week in hostile territory. Bledsoe was firing all over the place, and he gave Payton credit for calling a great game.

It may be too soon to brand this team as too conservative with only two games in the bag. It’s really the TALE OF TWO OFFENSES.

And about Parcells, while he’s not perfect, he’s arguably the greatest coach ever. EVER. To have been successful with 4 different franchises is unprecedented. And I’m not talking Barry Switzer walzing in on an already star-studded team. I’m talking completly remaking that team into a winner.

He got the Giants two championships, and completely changed the culture of the Pat’s and the Jets. They were a JOKE before he got there.

He’s not perfect, but he’s the best there is. Period. Could Jimmy duplicate his success in Miami? Could Lombardi with the redskins? Would Landry have done any better had he gone on to, let’s say, the cardinals?

Parcells will get us to the Superbowl, or “home” as it’s known as to us Cowboy fans, before anybody else could. He rebuild teams in his image- and that image is “Champion”.

SF can’t compete with us. They flat out just don’t have the talent. We will win easily against them just like Philly crushed them. 28-0 in the beggining of the 2nd. Thats sad. We’ll blitz ALL day and if we don’t then Zimmer needs to be fired. Parcells will do the play calling and Julius will see alot of touches. I say stop giving JJ breaks in the 1st series of the 2nd quarter. Maybe the middle of the 3rd or something. As for the Redskins, its really sad when they are jumping up and down and doing gatorade baths when its week 2. Just shows how sorry their franchise is. And they have a bye week to keep thinking their good.

What about Dat? We need to give Dat some credit for a solid game. Did you see that hit?!?

Rich: Hi, I respect your opinion, and just about anyone else’s who posts here; we’re all fans.

None of us are “experts”, if we were, we’d be on a football staff somewhere, but we’re all entitled to our opinions, and that’s the beauty of a blog, and America, etc.

Besides, I don’t expect everyone to agree me with; it wouldn’t be fun if they did!

That said, I don’t post to torque people off, or say controversial things, to get people riled up!

Just my opinion; and frankly; I’m not sure it’s a fully formed, researched, logical opinion! If I’m being frank; as long as I’ve been a Cowboy fan, it could be something as basic as I just can’t stand to see the “hated Giant coach” in charge!

You make some logical comments about Parcells, Jimmy etc. (I agree with his Miami tenure, disasterous, more on that some other time…).

I don’t know, I guess part of what bothers me about Parcells; is that I think he’s very slick; in my opinion, he’s so slick he manages to look good/take credit, when the Cowboys do well; and when the do bad, he manages to let the media now, in subtle ways, that it was the players, not him, who screwed up!

Now, we all KNOW, it’s the “players who play…” and not the coaches; I’m just used to a coach who takes responsibility when the team loses, it’s the first sign of humility, even if it’s not entirely accurate; Parcells flat out bugs me with his slickness.

Besides, not only the Antonio Bryant thing, but also the Chad Hutchinson thing still irks me.

Recent events in Chicago maybe prove Parcells a genius, but Hutch never had a chance under Parcells. Parcells got the “word” from his friend Bobby Knight, that Hutch was a “surfer dude”, and he came in, and just basically destroyed him; before he had a chance, and that was that; it was all a personalit thing, and that just irks me; but hey, I"m not the coach!

I guess I really should be picking on Jerry Jones, he’s the one that drafted Quincy Carter, and that contributed to the whole Hutch thing as well. It was ludicrous, but Jerry is, and has been quite ludicrous himself; one step above the Buffoon “Danny-boy” in old DC, and maybe two steps above clueless Bidwell in Arizona, and that’s about it.

I can remember when they drafter Carter, I was like, you have GOT to be kidding me, what idiot would do that!

I live in Georgia, it was an “open secret” down there, that not only did he do drugs, but that he couldn’t throw the damn ball! And Jones makes that asinine comment after the draft “I’ve watched every throw Quincy has made in college, and he can play in this league”!

And he also held of Shaun Roger’s X-ray (he’s a doctor now too…); and explained why Roger’s would be no good in the NFL, based upon that X-ray; guess that’s two strikes against him, in the same draft!

I new we were in trouble, with Quincy, when they had to teach him how to take a snap from center, his first week in training camp! Not very promising was it?

I remember I emailed the psychopant Spagnola after about 3 preseason games that year, telling him, "This guy will NEVER be a quarterback in the NFL, he can’t throw the damn ball!

Spagnola didn’t address me back by name, but he laid down the party line like he always does, basically saying that “that those people who think Carter can’t throw, are dead wrong, the kid’s a player…”

Ah well, maybe, ultimately, Jones is still the root of all my problems; maybe Parcells will get it done; maybe in spite of Jones….

PS; by the way, just a worthless trivia note; Pettiti’s father is from NJ; his father’s first cousin, sits in my office in Atlanta, 10 feet from me, every day! I’ve known him for over two years.

When Pettiti was drafted by the Cowboys, I went into work that Monday, and asked him, is that guy the cowboys drafted in the 6th round related to you? He went to Pitt, and is from NJ! He said yah, that’s my cousin’s boy!

So, he watches with interest, and he gives me the “family scoop” every week.

It’s kinda neat; it matches up with a couple of other weird things that happened to me, with the 90’s Cowboys.

I was in the Marines back then, when I was younger, and lighter! I was stationed in Okinawa from 92 – 94.

Moose Johnson’s first cousin, was an officer in the Corps, and I knew him out there.

There was also, a SSGT Haley out there with me, he claimed he was Charles’ younger brother; now, I admit, he looked a bit like him, but I was never able to confirm if that was true, unlike Moose’s cousin.

If anyone knows if Charles Haley’s younger brother WAS in the Corps, please post it here, and let me know.

I think we need a BLOWOUT in SF, and then let Romo or Henson and Price, and Thompson along with Fujita get some much playing time in a real game with the score 35 to nothing.

We got a great Defense coming together that gave up two big plays unfortunately. We need to bounce back and get over the loss and move forward. Parcells said it best this loss is one that can linger if you let it, and I hope he and the players don’t let it. MOVE ON……….lets go complete the LEFT COAST SWEEP……..San Diego……..49ers and then DA RAIDERS.

If Santana Moss and Brunell burned us like that, Zimmer better rachet it up for Collins and Randy Moss!!!!

a few thoughts………………

1. We played 3 3/4 of good sound football last night. While I’m crushed to give one like that away I saw a ton of good things last night. We were hitting people in the mouth on defense and getting to the QB, I like that.

2. So what if Snyder and other Skins fans want to jump up and down and act like little joy boys. Give them this one. They have one hell of a defense and I think it shows how much respect they have for our organization when they get that excited to beat us. I wouldn’t have acted that way had we won last night, but I sure will if we do the same thing to the Eagles.

3. Part of what Parcells is bringing to the table, is that he is better educating Jerry Jones on how to spot talent and what type of players are needed to win championships. He will be a better GM for this relationship.

4. In addtion to that Parcells will leave behind some fine young talent as well as a coaching staff that we will be able to hire from within on and not come up with a Campo type pick like we have had in the past.

As depressed as I have been over the loss last night, I have to remind myself that we played alot of good football last night, and perhaps a loss like this can build character in our team and bring it closer together. Because now they know, that the game is NEVER over.

Listen guys…

You scored on a lousy trick play. Didn’t even once sustain a start to finish basic drive to score a TD..so it would be wise to wake up and be true to yourselves once in a while. Yeah, the Skins didn’t play well offensively almost all the game. But the D, without much blitzing stopped you from scoring.

The Skins, however, scored TWICE and without trickery back-to-back. That, ol’ Cow fans, is plain reality.

Foreskin, the reality is that outside those two plays your offense sux. You have a bunch of overpaid old talent and won’t have the ability to sign anyone for about the next 5 years because of your pathetic owners cap management. We have beat you the last 14 out of the last 16 we have met, so take your little bone home with you doggie we’ll be seeing you later in the year.

The win in san diego was a lesson learned about playing tough and never being out of a game.

The loss to the skins is a lesson learned about taking things for granted and not playing too conservatively when you’ve got the lead.

Our guys are learning good stuff about the nfl, themselves, and each other in ways that will LAST. These thrilling comebacks and stunning defeats- in just two games mind you- will seed into their brains and plant experiences that will benefit them IN THE PLAYOFFS.

And now all this talk about a blow out in San Fran? I hope our players aren’t as overconfident as some of you guys- if they are, then they’re setting themselves, and the rest of us, up for another disappointing lose.

Hey Redskil ol pal! Okay, fine, you’re right; you guys won, kudos to you!

But guess what, I have lots of Redskin fans as friends, and a brother, and it’s just so easy to point it out!

1) 5 SB’s to 3 SB victories…
2) Clint Longley on Thanksgiving…
3) Roger’s last game, knocked ya out of the playoffs!
4) A 20+ game advantage in the inter-team series!!
5) 14 out of the last 16….
blah, blah, blah….
Read ’er and weep pally; it galls you to no end, and you know it!

Besides, we have Jerry, you have “Danny-boy”! Hah, that’s the ultimate insult, if I must say so!

Need some pamprin or midol for those cramps your having????

Did anybody besides me want to brain Jerry Jones when he showed up on the sideline in the last few minutes? He acts like his mere presence should be enough to inspire the team to win. They were inspired enough. They played hard all game; they were just flat outplayed and outcoached in the final few minutes. I had never seen the Cowboys collapse like that in almost 40 years. Jerry’s egotistical butt is not likely to change the situation much, if any, by his mere presence on the sideline. He needs a reality check.

OH MY GOD!! The damn ’skins posters are STILL HERE??!!!

We’ve never had an opponent stick around this long AFTER a game!! Ya’ll DID win your Superbowl!! Man, they must regard us a LOT more than we do them!! I guess beating the crap out of them 14 of the last 16 games has jaded us?

Man, that IS sad. Why don’t we talk about their lousy draft last year. Or all the money they overspend on veterans players who never really pan out? Where’s Deon? How about that Superbowl victory they have with the asterisk by it cuz it was during a strike year?? Or the NEAR PERFECT SEASON DALLAS RUINED for them back in 1991?? AWWWEE!! And ya’ll were SO close!! Now THAT was history in the making!! THAT was worth jumping up and down like a little girl.

But last night? Last night was a bore. Ya’ll can have it….

Now go away already. You’ve worn out your welcome.

cowboy bert, I guess I read his behavior a bit different that you.

1. I know he loves his team.

2. If I were the owner of an NFL franchise I’d be sitting on the sideline, heck man those are the best seats in the house.

Couple of observations…(forgive me if this has been previously stated)
- Ferguson looked good against the run
- Houston, we have a Pass Rush
- Spears, Ware, Canty looked good as well
- Anthony Henry is the Cowboys best corner, period.
Overall, I am pleased with the defense, considering what we suffered through last year. Remember, Dallas is implementing a new defense with Rookies in Key positions…

As far as the collapse in the fourth quarter, I blame the coaching. After the first touchdown, where is the adjust from the sideline? The Redskins were stymied for pratically the entire game and beat us with the same play, yielding the same result. No one should be surprised that Roy can’t cover (see last year), that’s not what he does. He’s an “in the box safety”, period. If they would have just jammed Moss at the line of scrimmage and called a blitz, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Lastly, Bill needs to open up the offense. I know some of you will say, hey wait a minute, Payton called that game. Yeah, okay. Like I said, Parcells needs to open up the offense. I am sorry, the skins don’t have the personnel to cover Keyshawn, Glenn, Witten and Crayton or Price. I just don’t believe it…

foreskin does have a point though. we never really suststained a drive cuz we couldn’t get the passing game going. all ball control- yet we didn’t play like that in san diego!!

When we did run a pass play, was EVERYBODY covered? How can that be? I’d love to analyze the game to see what Bledsoe saw. Any theories?

rich, I thought we threw the ball Okay, I thought it was the running game that got stymied. I want to see more out of Julius “The Juice” Jones, than what I’ve seen the last two weeks. Either that or I want to see more of Thompson.

Mayboy,

you addressed my question before i even posted. but Parcells can’t usurp payton just yet- maybe it was Parcells who told him to play it safe.

Bledsoe gave Payton the credit last week for calling a great game- he was spreading the ball around and then opening up the run. why would he just completely shift gears like that

maybe it WAS parcells?

right, but we ran when they KNEW we were gonna run- didn’t we look pretty one-dimensional?

We’d run and run for not much, then we’d have these 3rd and long situations, where they knew we were gonna pass. Kinda like they were calling the plays from a How to coach for dummies manual. totally predictable.

But even so, crayton holds on to that pass, or Keyshawn convert that long one, and we win the game. It was so damn close….

Or Cortez makes the 41 yarder, that would have been the easiest play to make.

Crayton got hammered by Taylor.

Foreskin Fans,
Enjoy it. We’ll see you again. SkinsFan, do you really want to get dumped on in here just like we do on The Forum? LOL.

The Foreskins fans do have a point though. As bitter as this is, we are whining too much.

It was not the coaching guys. It was the players. They DID NOT EXECUTE when it mattered! If BP is writing conservative game plans, it is because he has a young team and is seeking to minimize exactly the flockups we saw last night. Also, what the hell is wrong with a ball-control offense? Check you statistical history. Overall, teams that can consistently run the ball are far more succesful than those who can’t! I do mean consistency. That is our running game problem right now. But just like we fixed the pass protection problem from week 1, we will fix the run blocking problem too.

Roy gets burned in coverege, and you guys want to run him out of town! The fact is, Cortez makes the 41 yarder and we win the game. Don’t put Roy in coverage when it’s 4th and long or 3rd and long for that matter. He’s best playing close to the line. Don’t pin this one on him, because it was bad play calling at the end that cost us this one. Where the hell was the blitz on the Skins last two drives? Roy would have certainly gotten another sack, and he’d be the hero. Don’t run him out of Dodge. Who would you rather have at SS, Woody Dantzler?

What is up with guys named MOSS owning the Cowboys? After the first Moss TD, learn your lesson and knock him on his ass before he runs for 5 yards the next time. He ran straight down the field untouched on the second TD. At least disrupt his route running by chucking him before he runs 5 yards.

The ’Boys will learn from this. I am very encouraged by the D. They will be a great one. Bledsoe was definitely affected by the hot and humid conditions at the end of the game when he was short-hopping passes. Fatigue is a great equalizer.

Oh, McBriar is awesome, and we need a new PK! Gotta make those 41 yarders. The irony is, Novak kicked for the Skins!

Man, I can’t disagree with any of this, even the people disagreeing with each other-I can see both sides of some of these issues-and for all of you who were predicting a 38-7 blowout, welcome back to reality! I told you Cortez would win or lose this game…
1)Parcells-yeah, he’s too conservative-but he’s BY FAR the best we could get, esp. for finding talent like Jimmy did and rebuilding this team. Ask yourself-who would you like to hire instead? Campo is available
2) I love Roy Williams, but no one’s mentioned his biggest mistake-when he came free for a sack deep in their territory THERE HAS TO BE A FUMBLE! Don’t grab his jersey and fling him to the ground! I was yelling at the TV STRIP HIM! Even a rookie knows that (Ware in Seattle) Roy’s instinct to go for the big hit causes him to miss oppportunities for interceptions, and in this a case a game-winning fumble.
3) Wouldn’t it have been great to keep TT in after his big return? JJ was struggling a change of pace with some speed running outside would have been great there….

Something overlooked was the climactic conditions. Part of our D’s problem was that they were tired. They ran out of gas the last few minutes. That was the offense’s fault. As I said EXECUTION (including penalties).

Hate to say it, but I had my doubts about Cortez the first time I saw him. He did seem to settle down after that first FG try though.

Also, I am open to the idea, as posted by others, that a new set-up on our Nickel be found. We all know that covering deep IS NOT Roy’s forte. Intermediate coverage for him yes, but not deep.

Skinsrule,

Just how many Super Bowl championship rings do the Falcons and the Eagles have together anyway?

To all you Foreskin fans,
 
You’ve just won TWO out of the last Sixteen games we’ve played, and you all come out of the woodwork! This WAS your Super Bowl, so enjoy it while it lasts, because it may have to hold you for the next 16 games between the Foreskins and DA BOYS!

Oh, is it still a rivalry when the lesser team wins only 2 out of 16? It’s kinda like how Federer owns Agassi, but that may not be a good example, because Agassi is old, and Danny Boy Snyder is still a youngin’ as an owner. Patrick Ramsey should get him a 7th rounder in a trade. Then again, they may be bad enough to draft Leinart next year AND then trade Moss and Portis for Rivers. LOL!

are there any bloggers here live in NYC? curious to know if there is a bar where cowboy fans hang out to watch the games in NYC!

Man do I Hurt,
                      Anytime we lose I cant watch any tv concerning the Boys..ESPN especially. ….I’m not the same person for some reason…It really takes a day for me to get over losses like this ….This ranks up there with the SuperBowl loss to the Steelers on a dropped end zone pass and, almost like the championship game to the 49ers known as the catch that Joe Montana admitted he was throwing away…I truly cried like a baby and thanks to my father who said one thing to me that stuck all these years…He said they will do it to you all the time….

                          Being a big Cowboys fan himslf I come to understand how Dallas in its rich traditon of winning games only showed spurts of having a KILLER INSTINCT..as J-MAN recognized earlier in his comments..Putting away teams that should never be close to daylight against us when we are handling them well….SCORE AND SCORE some more is the key to any game but we tend to play lets not turn over the ball conservative role….No.. lets throw a few deep to open the game up.Why dont cha…..
      Did you guys see the head cam shot when it was 3rd down and about 3 to go and Bledsoe had a gap so wide open my Mom could have made the first down…But he throws away the rock….We have to move the ball on offense like the San Diego game….Field goals are apart of the game and can win for you but they dont hold even the worst team at bay from making a come back……Well thanks guys for this therapy session at 5am in the morning I think I can make it now or at least until the next game ……

Well, this loss will haunt the boys for awhile. We need to start passing more, we need more points, we can’t just sit on our lead and have the defense win our game. It has to change fast, because if it don’t, your looking at another 5-11 season. I hope this will teach them a lesson!

Guys come on get over it!!!!Its the second game of
the season!!!!WE will get better as the season goes
on…………. this is the redskins season!!!!Even that
classless a—hole gibblets saying this was bigger than
the sb ……….spare me or maybe its the closest they
will get to s.b. so he has a point there.
We outplayed them and we lost it happens.
A. glenn did his job roy has got to make those
plays.

and where’s steve hoffman?

can anybody explain to me why we let him go? is this another parcells thing where it HAS to be his way?

seems to me that cortez has the leg; maybe steve could have gotten the most out of him… he’s done it before.

Does it p*ss anyone else off that the media and some posters on here are already saying this loss could wreck the season? Give me a break. Yes it was a heartbreaker we should have won. The reality is that IF this team is as good as many of you have said (predictions were mostly 9-7 or better) we’ll bounce back. If we’re not mentally tough enough to recover we are headed for a bad year anyways. The talent in the league is too balanced for a mentally weak team to survive. It’s all about mentality and has been since free agency.

To onepaniolo:

What the h*** did you just say? Was that English? Geez, I know fans of “DA BOYZ” are stupid, but c’mon!

rich,

I was watching the receivers some at the game, and they were not open often. Witten was getting bracketed frequently, Keyshawn was only ever open for a moment or two, same for Crayton. Glenn was the most open, but rarely by much.

But it all stemmed from the play calling. The Redskins were playing very shallow in coverage, with their linebackers and safeties cheating towards the line of scrimmage constantly in run support. So what do we do? Run short and intermediate routes all game long ito the teeth of their defense. Duh.

A few more post and fly patterns would have been nice and opened the field up the way that 4-wide formation was supposed to. With no sacks and less effective blitzing than expected from the Skins, Bledsoe had the time but never the right play calls except for one genius fleaflicker. We almost never made the Skins pay for their aggressiveness.

Guys,

I had a bad feeling about this game long before it started. The law of averages applied here, plain and simple. Hell, even a blind dog sniffs out a bone every now and then, so it was reasonable that the skins would eventually win ONE. Now they’ve got one really bad @ss whoopin coming there way, on their home field, and I hope our guys dance on their logo like they did on ours.

Anyway, I think I’ll look at this loss as a wake up call. Broke my heart to see this happen, but this could turn out to be a good thing depending on how the guys respond. I said before the season started that we would win one or two games we were supposed to lose, and vice-versa, so at this point, we’re about where I expected us to be. Now they’ve got to respond like the pissed off team they should be. I wouldn’t want to be the Fortynoners right now, with this idiot linebacker guaranteeing our boys a beatdown.

I’ve been away for a bit, but I read the posts whenever I can. I see some very interesting coments this time around, as I knew I would, but I really like everything Mayboy said. I think he’s right on target.

Some changes are going to have to be made in the way our secondary goes about it’s business too. I can’t complian about the whole defensive backfield, because Anthony Henry looks to be worth every dime he’s getting. To me, he has been the biggest surprise out there, especially since he looked tentative and stiff in training camp.

We’ve also got to see some better decision making from the team in general, especially from Bledsoe. On that 4th and 2 play, Bledsoe insisted on throwing the ball, when there was a wide open running lane. When the game is on the line and you’ve got to get two yards to preserve your drive, if there is a lane open, you need to RUN!

I think we’ll beat the “noners”, but we’re going to struggle with the Raiders unless Henry is able to go to work on Moss. After that, we’ll talk about the next two games. Right now, the boys should only be focused on San Fran.

Let’s hope uncle Billy decides to open up the offense a little.

Please remember to ignore the trolls. They are without merit and meaningless to our team and our blog.

SchmuckFan,
Who are you to call us stupid? You still can’t deliver a case of Jim Beam from you bathroom to your bedroom. Have you forgotten to take your meds today?

couple of quick questions in regards to Pettiti

I for one am a fan of Pettiti and think he will be a real good RT but I expect growing pains. Many of you guys are raving over his performance. I think it was probably good but the one thing i didn’t look for is how much help he received from the TE. He is a rook and will need some help but if he does pull in the TE a lot, that hurts our passing offense as well.

Raul, not to be demanding or anything, but perhaps a SF topic is needed. I am sick of talking about Monday’s game. Its over. Let the skins fans revel in it the rest of the year, we have better things to do.

Well Said J-Man but didn’t Raul say he can’t get to a computer for most of Wednesday??

AlanTdot,

thats right, forgot. I just want to move forward. we have such promise on the team that seasoning will help and would like to focus on growth rather than blame, officials’ calls or luck. some of the guys; spears, ware, pettiti, crayton, canty, thompson and others are going to be good with time. I don’t harbor any thought of a SB this year but i think we’ll be real strong in 2006. I still like the wins but i am as much interested to see how some of them develop.

Exactly my sentiments, J-MAN. This year is about development more than winning so we can challenge for a SB in the next few years. BTW, Petitti got some help from TEs Monday, but held his own when he didn’t. Very promising. And kudos to BP for not bringing in one of those veteran RTs from off the street. Superb draft, even if he has challenges coaching during the game.

I really think that Vinny would of done better then Drew.
The excuse they gave for Drew and his limp passes was, “it was very hot and the ball was hard to handle”.
There was many opportunities in this game to finish them off. Cortez field goal, the last drive, better defense on deep ball, better play calling. They had a good defense.
Lets hope we learn from this and they get over confident and loose a few.

I for one was very happy with the draft. I have questions on it though. First, if there is a flop, it will be Marion Barber. Tyson Thompson makes it possible and Barber has a way of screwing up, such as the kickoff team in SD as well as fumbles. The other question is Burnett. I think he is good but with Scott Fujita on board, he was moved behind Demarcus Ware at WLB. That move doesn’t bode well for him to be a future starter. Will they bulk him up and move him back to SLB or will he move in to replace Bradie.

On another note, how long will the A-Train stay with Dallas. I forsee him being inactive for games halfway through the year. You like having the experience but he is not producing either and there is a lot of pressure on that 53 man roster.

Vinny would have thrown 3 INTs by now if he was our QB………..Vinny is done……….

Drew drove us to win against SD………then defense held. Compare that to Vinny with the ball only having to run out the clock to beat Pittsburgh and he FUMBLES. Vinny was probably a better qb than Carter, but his lack of mobility and our offensive line troubles last year……….he was not the right fit……….Parcells talked about Brunell and Gibbs looking for his guy at QB…………guess what Parcells has his guy at QB and his name is Drew………Bledsoe! Drew Completed the pass to KJ for a first down, and it was a holding penalty………..slightly questionable in my unbiased opinion on Flozell Adams that cost us a first down that could have allowed us to run out the clock.

How do you ever let a reciever get behind you when all you have to do is keep the Redskins out of the end zone? Roy and Aaron blew that coverage and just about wiped each other out. The Cowboys played a good game and gave up two big plays and failed to capitalize on our own opportunities. It is done, let’s go finish our WEST COAST SWEEP! Before we have to face the rest of the much improved NFC East!

I’m thinking the SF game will be a good game for Julius to get on track and break 100. He should definately do it against the Raiders. We need to learn to run the ball again. With that, the WEST COAST SWEEP is definately possible.

i agree J-Man, JJones should have a huge game. Look for himto get 120+ yds and 50+ receiving.

I saw where Williams admitted it was his fault. To get burned is one thing but to have it happen TWICE in three and a half minutes is inexcusable.
Bottom line is you just CAN’T let a receiver run past you. It was a back-breaker to be able to control the game for 56 minutes and lose it on the only two plays the ‘Skins were able to make all night. The ’Boys had them on the ropes all night and just couldn’t deliver the knock-out punch.
The lesson to be learned is you’ve got to be able to put teams away and play hard for 60 minutes.

I must say I was very disappointed that ABC did not show the half time induction of the Triplets into the Ring Of Honor. Aikman,Irvin and Smith dominated the NFL as Superstars for a decade and ABC can’t devote ten minutes to air the ceremony. Unbelievable and inexcusable. ABC and MNF should be ashamed!

For fun, here’s my preview of our next opponent.

San Francisco

Summary: At 1-1, they may lead the NFC West, but they are a statistical mess. Since they pass ok and stop the run effectively, so it could be a tougher game than we think, plus they have returned one punt for a TD. But Dallas has more talent at virtually every position and should win with effective passing and a good pass rush.

Offense: SF has a terrible running game, averaging just 2.4 yards per carry (last in the NFL). RB Kevan Barlow has been held to 2.3 per, 1 TD and 1 fumble. But when passing, they have been reasonably effective with a 57.8% completion rate (17th) and just 5 sacks (18th) while averaging 11.5 yards per completion. QB Tim Rattay has a QB rating of 62.8 (2 TD, 3 INT, 1 Fum), and Alex Smith (1st rounder from Utah) is waiting in the wings but will not start Sunday. WR Arnaz Battle leads the team with 9 receptions for 103 yards and 1 TD. Cowboys note: he is 6-1 217 with a 4.68 in the 40, was the option QB at Notre Dame and took 2 snaps in week 1 against St. Louis, running one and passing the other (24 yard completion). In total, the SF offense averages a 29th-ranked 4.1 yards per play. They are rarely penalized on offense.

Defense: SF’s defense has been besieged (their TOP is dead last at a measly 21:20—average is 30:00). And they’ve registered the worst yards allowed per game (494) and per play (a whopping 6.2), worst 1st downs allowed per game (28), 3rd worst 3rd down percentage (50%), and worst 4th down percentage (4 for 4). But the ugliest stat: their leading tackler is CB Ahmed Plummer (14 solo, 5 assists); never good when a CB leads in tackles. They do have two playmakers, though: solid veteran DT Bryant Young, who anchors the run D (4.1 yards per carry is 17th in the league), and loudmouth LB Julian Peterson, who has 2.5 of their 9 sacks. Those 9 sacks ties them for 2nd best in the NFL. So they are stout against the run, can rush the passer, but are easily the worst secondary in the league.

Special Teams: Tops in punt return avg (with 1 TD), but have forced only 2 punts thanks to their sieve of a pass defense and their worse-than-average punting (42.4 yards per).

Recipe for a Cowboys win: Plenty of quick passes. Play JJ and AT as they are the best blockers and receivers. Score 21+ points. Pressure Rattay early and often. Since they won’t beat us with the run, blitz at will from all over. Get our better pass-defenders in at LB and play more nickel. On special teams, dress Copper and don’t outkick the coverage.

Prediction: Dallas 23 SF 7. Yes, folks, that’s a safety for Dallas. And an INT and 5 sacks. Not quite 100 yards for JJ, though. Go Cowboys!

Run more draws with JJ- they have hardly run any so far.

What a game! The Redskins showed just what they’re made of when they marched into Texas Stadium, underdogs in everyones’ eyes…except their own. When the game was over, the Redskins walked out of the stadium battle-worn, bruised and victorious.
Parcells and Jerry Jones ? A little embarrased and pissd off. What goes around comes around.

hehe

Burmafrd, I think u r right about this! Last yr they ran tons of draw plays, & all he did was rush for over 800 yrds in 8 games! This yr they have only run like one or two maybe!

Remnant,

I bet you didn’t know that our leading tackler was Anthony Henry(13 solo and 6 assists). Dat has 13 solo and 2 assists and a sack.

Hey did anyone noticed on both Redskins touchdown plays, it was out of shotgun formation.

hehe

Skinz still worst team in the division:
What does the fact that Brunell was in the shotgun matter?
What makes u feel any good about what the Redskins did at all on Monday night? Oh yeah, they looked good for 2 plays on offense!
& the skinz “d” is good, but the Cowboys have about 5 more play makers on “d” than the redskins do.
Furthermore, the skinz would b lucky to go 8-8 this yr, & i do remember ur ex-head coach going 2-0 also, then tanked the rest of the season! If I am skinz fan, I’d watch what I say, they r still the worst team in the division

I like the way the skin’s jumped around after the game as thou they just won the super bowl! did one win mean that much to ya’ll? if so, I feel really bad for u, that was really, really, really funny!!! That is the way a bad team would react after winning a luck game they know they should have lost!!!
Portis is a gr8 running back isn’t he?? He ran for like as many yards as Brunell did!!!!!!!!! hehe!!!!

don’t these hard-up skin fans have their own blog site?
If it was not for 2 sorry ass plays, u’d b looking at shut out, but sleep easy till we play those punks again!

Chris,

I wonder how much more we’ll hear from Redskins Die Hard Fan once we get it going. When we start moving up and they start moving down, I’d like to see just how much nerve he/she has then. Stay with us Redskins Die Hard Fan, we’re going to enjoy having you around in the coming weeks. You can be our little whipping boy/girl.

Rob2,

you won’t see that loser stick around because skins fans are wimps. Their web log sites are full of stupid remarks with little to no technical football analysis anywhere. We are lucky to have the site. That said, we should take care of the niners to the tune of 32-17

hahaahha two lucky almost hail mary plays and the skins are good? they suck, they’ll finish with 4 wins, they have NO QB, while ours leads the NFC in rating. Even the media knows the Cowboys are a better team the the Skins, even though they have a better record.

Also, the Redskins LB calling himself a hero, it just shows you how stupid they are. The heroes are those in N.O. helping out, not some LB who won in Week 2 on 2 bomb plays.

Vinnys ball was knocked out of his hand. It was more of a fluke play last year against the steelers.
Yea…Drew helped our team last week, but don’t tell me our Defense held.
Just like against the Skins…one big play killed us and thank god for Gates being out, we pulled it off.
All I’m saying is that Drew threw some ducks, even dump passes sucked, did you see that pass that julious jones saved…he’s done.

Although he redeemed himself on that flee-flicker…very nice pass!

Jeff, he is done why again? Why don’t u give him one more game buddy? By the way “Jeff”, seeing how Bledsoe has yet to throw an int & has the highest QB rating in the NFC….. what is it again? he’s done?
The WR’s also have to catch passes… I saw one Key could have caught at the end & the same with Glen….. A few ducks does not make a QB done, & I remember McNabb looking like crap against the the Falcons, was he done??? Althou he did follow up against the almighty 49ers….. lets see what drew does to them also b4 we say Drew is done bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why was jones pulled for Thompson in the 4th q?

J-MAN,

There’s one big reason Henry is our leading tackler, and it’s not good either: Ware. In week 1 he blew containment repeatedly, forcing Henry to tackle LT, which he did with gusto. If Dat isn’t the leading tackler by the end of the year, it will mean our 1st round LB isn’t pulling his weight on rushing downs.

But look around the league (or at FF with individual stats for defenders), and you’ll see that MLBs lead in tackles. The 3-4 spreads the tackles around a bit more, or Dat would already be leading even with the Ware mistakes. To be fair, the 3-4 is having the same effect on the 49ers. But a CB with alot of tackles indicates either too soft coverage or lack of containment by the OLB in the 3-4.

Don Y,

Parcells said today that he wanted to get TT some plays and that’s just when they came. He also said before the season that he wants to limit JJ’s plays, apparently to keep him healthy.

i think that we we gave it all we had it is just that roy williams could not keep up with santana moss i mean the man is just to fast no one on the dallas cowboys can syop him but on december 18th i think that dallas is going to win because they are never going to let that happen again the redskins 2 back to back touchdowns but iguess it was just time for them to lose hey but we can’t win them all but tha next time we will go dallas!

chris and Jeff
Come on now Bledsoe is not done but QB rating is not real let see what it is after 16 games. Bledsoe is going to have worst game then this. We will see what he has when we play Phily.

Chris-I was responding to another writer who said Vinny was done. But while i have you….Yea, this is only the second game…but theres a reason why he was traded. Was McNabb traded? How many Super Bowls Have Drew been in? and at his age? I can remember when Drew used to shine at the ends of ball games, i didnt see that Monday. Again with McNabb, he was in Atlanta, Drew was at Home. Like i said earlier…that wasn’t why we lost, it just contributed.
thanks bro

AW-i agree….i see him throw the ball away way too early on alot of passes too.

lee
We didn’t loose because of Roy? People for get we only had 13 points? Where were you people last week talking about Roy then?? The 2nd TD was AG and Roy fault if AG didn’t go for the ball it wouldnt have been a TD. If we didn’t miss that Field goal would you people be bashing Roy If we only score 13 points we shouldn’t win……

I like it when you cowgirls talk dirty. I think Parcells must have taken some anger management class. I mean he held it together durin press conference after game. But let’s give him time.

Keyshawn better shut up during practice this week or Parcell will tear him ahole.

hehe

Deadskins fan…..Gibbs was a little crybaby out on that field out there, wasn’t he?
Once in 10 years…..baby steps Washington….baby steps.
Count it!

Redskins Die Hard Fan
I glad you are here I dont even hate the redskins its been so long since they beat us yall have to win sometimes. Hey when is the last time yall made it to the play-offs???

I kinda felt sorry for the Redskin fan….my son is one…he went to bed early…i guess he, at his age, was even used to the outcome. haha

Our offence sucked and Roy is taking the heat off of them. You take away that one trick play and we didnt do anything.

AW,

exactly right. Bledsoe’s ball was diving all night and got real bad in the 4th quarter. It was a Humid Hot night and Bledsoe didn’t have it this night.

 As for the balls Bledsoe throws away – better on the sidelines than going the other way for six.

Bledsoe is playing better than I thought he would. Before he was a Cowboy I thought he sucked and like everyone else here when JJ made that trade with the Bills for this years first round pick we all thought yea Bledsoe sucks we will get a high pick. I still think he sucks but would be a great backup and ok at best as the starter. I hope he proves me wrong.

Yeah, I predict cowboys will take another beating up in SF next Sunday. We’ll see. As AQ said, all you had was a flea flicker, next week its better be something different like razzle dazzle. hehe

Hello Everyone,

I am a Cowboys faithful and I have been since I was 6 years old (many years ago). You talk about disappointed – didnâ€â"¢t sleep at all after the game. I told my wife that Iâ€â"¢m going to just have to stop watching football all together especially my Boys. I have no room in my life any more for losing. How do you lead for three quarters and lose the game in the last five minutes when you hadnâ€â"¢t allowed the other team to score all night prior to the last five minutes. I have no idea but I know who to ask. Roy Williams, Arron Glenn, Mike Zimmer and Bill Parcells – in that order. We found out last rear that Roy couldnâ€â"¢t drop back into coverage and cover anybody – thatâ€â"¢s why we started bringing him back closer to line of scrimmage where he is most effective. Why in the world would we ask him to try and cover somebody or assist in coverage in the final minutes of the game when we had three DBâ€â"¢s on the team to perform that duty. I live in Maryland with these dreadful skins fans and you have no idea what itâ€â"¢s like to be around these types of people. We lost a battle and I want to win the war but this team is going to have to grow up fast. I just canâ€â"¢t take losing anymore weâ€â"¢ve been losing for to long. This is not rocket science and ALL of the games we play can be won. I know we are a young team, I know we have rookie starters and back-ups but enough excuses. Letâ€â"¢s play football and win. I truly believe we have what it takes to get to the Superbowl now. The refâ€â"¢s in the league are pathetic excuses. We should just get rid of all of them and let high school refâ€â"¢s referee the game weâ€â"¢d have less calls and a faster game and less stupid false calls (Greg Ellis holding). I would like to close with a very serious question. Has anyone noticed that Julius Jones tries to put a move on a defender before he actually gets where the defender is and ends up get tackled by the guy he canâ€â"¢t see behind him and ends up leaving yards on the field because he just didnâ€â"¢t run straight ahead in the lane and get as many yards as he could. We had 3rd and short on several occasions that we didn’t pick up. The thing is though that Julius could have converted the 1st down on the second down run if he had just taken what the defense was giving instead of trying to â€Å"juke” a guy and end getting tackled by another. I just want to know am I the only one that sees this. I like Julius but I like winning even more. By the way when we got burnt by moss on the 49 yarded why didnâ€â"¢t we but Newman on him from that point forward until the game was over or at least put a physical guy on him to bump him at the line of scrimmage to take him out of or delay his route. We were getting pressure on brunell anyway. Two weeks in a row weâ€â"¢ve got burnt on the long ball at the end of the game – thatâ€â"¢s a problem, remember 4/14 when we played the chargers. I also donâ€â"¢t think Zimmer is calling the defenses I think Parcells is – I think thatâ€â"¢s why he gave up the offensive play calling so he could focus on the defense – fine with me because Zimmer has never impressed me anyway.

I think bledsoe can make it work, Keyshaun has gotten the ball more often and is stepping up. The Charger game proved to me they had more than just a “flee flicker”. Redskins have a great defense. I really think the Cowboys do too…but we are a bit younger. We will see that in game 2.
I’m over it already….its was a charity game for the skins. They know that, just ask weeping joe gibbs…haha what a cry baby, thats funny.

greetings gents!

i’m a old school ’boyz fan who is a native of the DC area. my family and friends up here think that i was dropped on my head as a baby for being a cowboys die hard.

i can’t blame this loss on the defense. it was coaching gaffes that cost us the game in my opinion. the cowboys should have been in their nickle package on the 2nd moss TD. this would have left roy to cover the underneath stuff and would have had a legitimate FS to help cover the deep ball.

also, on offense, parcells did not dress a FB for the game. julius jones is not built to run from a single set backfield. and running dble-tights (2 TE’s) does not provide him the angles and approaches to the holes to which he’s accostomed. therefore the cowboys couldn’t run the ball effectively to set up play action. therefor the skinz did not respect the run as they normally do, and they dropped back into coverage as soon as the ball was snapped.

i’m concerned about sean payton’s playcalling abilities. his track record appears to be spotty, or maybe i’m just missing something about this guy?

hi stewart!

i too am a cowboys fan that lives in MD, and you’re right about these skins fans around here. they are unbearable whenever the skins beat the boyz. the funny thing is that very few of them actually know football, and therefor cannot talk x’s and o’s beyond what they read in the washington post. all they know is that they hate the cowboys and seize any opportunity crow. the past ten years have amazingly been swept away from their memories with this one win.

joe gibbs, like tom landry, is a legendary coach. but i challenge you to find a dozen skins fans that can explain to you in football terms why he is considered to be such an innovator during the ’80s. why was the counter trey so successful during those years?

anyway, keep the faith and your chin up amigo! 10-6 this year will get us into the playoffs. 12-4 next year will be even sweeter!

bring on 49ers !!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone really expect the Cowboys to go 16-0. So they lost a game. Guess what they will lose again. I am really impressed with how they dominated the game. I would hate to be a Redskins fan because they have serious issues. Roy Williams is a great player, but Bill needs to sit him down and explain how the cover two works. The only play calling i have a problem with is the prevent defense which prevented us from ending a dominant performance with a W.

Can someone please tell me how to upload CRYBABY emoticons?

Gibbs has the CRYBABY emoticons…especially after that game…please buddy….gatorade? I guess 10 years really is a long time afterall!!!!
Count it!