Cowboys - Seahawks 2nd Half Thread
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 4:39 PM CDT
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I want candy
Bubble gum or taffy
Skip to the sweet shop with my sweet heart, Sandy
Got my pennies saved, so I’m her sugar daddy
I’m her Hume Cronyn, she’s my Jessica Tandy
I want candy
Put it in a pile
Split it with my biddy 50-50 down the line
Kinda like Close Encounters of the Cavity Kind
Talkin’ licorice kisses
Talkin’ chocolate dowsed smiles
I want candy
I got a sugar tooth
Put on your shin guards, Sandy, ‘cuz I wanna knock boots
Lick the peppermint stick ’til the the lollipop droops
Gumdrops that don’t stop ‘til the lip-lock’s loose
Candy…candy…
(“I Want Candy”, by Mc Chris)
by StarStruck on Oct 23, 2005 4:41 PM CDT reply actions
anyone else in here in Miami?….good luck…stupid Wilma is picking up speed and strenght……sucks….
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 4:43 PM CDT reply actions
against us you mean…..yes, ur D is growing up to be a tough one……hopefully we add players to our off line next draft and th team shgould be amazing
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 4:45 PM CDT reply actions
I should have added “Our D has held opponents to…”
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
from seattle side
running game isnt killiing you so be patient
on offense, they will telll hassle that he making wrong reads — wont change
dallas must run but run smart
they are taking witten out but that leaves corners exposed
drew must read shorter
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
the oline has suprised me this game..minus the penalties
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 4:49 PM CDT reply actions
rivera must feel he’s hurt he believes he can play better but is getting penalties
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
Does not look like the deep pass is there, so let’s go with what is working (of course Seattle may adjust) but if we can get past the penalties the game is there to be won.
Good luck with Wilma ManTab.
by Gib on Oct 23, 2005 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
tucker got backed up but drew probably should have stepped up.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
sean is going to hav to do better in stretching laterally
the deep pass is taken away but the short field is there
and the end — but barber cant get there
t thompson where are you?
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Gib, thanks, its gonna suck, but what can you do….
Pettiti, get you $h*t together man….cmon
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
the offense must adjust to a lateral / mid field game
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 4:59 PM CDT reply actions
ba, turnover on downs. D line need to get more hits on hasselbeck
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 5:00 PM CDT reply actions
seattle figures that drew cant manage a mid field kind of offense
that when they take the first reciever, that drew will default throw deep
they must adjust to this scheme
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
yeahware got a good one on 3rd down…forced that quick throw
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
we’re getting hits on him…he’s just letting go of the ball quickly, which has also meant that he’s been off target.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
the khoy or w/e christian station…just makes me laugh
by nate on Oct 23, 2005 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
bledsoe should have gotten rid of that one. held it way too long
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
drew still looking to glenn vertical
drew tendancy must not be able to adjust
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:04 PM CDT reply actions
We desperately need another TD. How much longer can we hold them off?
by F.J on Oct 23, 2005 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
seahawks are doing a good job of covering all of our weapons. i guess thats why we’ve been running effectively.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:06 PM CDT reply actions
I am starting to believe that our D is going to have to score a TD on this game for us to win it…our offense looks bad
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:07 PM CDT reply actions
our d has shown all year that they can hold up as long as it takes…hope they do it here too
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:07 PM CDT reply actions
we need a stop here….or a TO…..damn we need to be leading by more than 4
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
D stepped up. it’s the O’s turn now. we need a long drive and a TD
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
ok their D has to be running out of steam by now…lets get something done.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
im starting to think our offense isnt gonna show up today…final 7-3
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
Refs are trying to help out the NYG.
A few BS Pass Interfernce calls keep helping them.
Still Giants suck. 20-10 Denver.
by Rami on Oct 23, 2005 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
You think BP was waiting for the Seatle defense to ware down and then unleash TT on them>
by F.J on Oct 23, 2005 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
tyson t carrying the load w/o julius. defense looks great
by rparr on Oct 23, 2005 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
we need a score……i dont like our D in the last minutes…..we can’t expect to win scoring 7 points……Wittenm where the hell are you man?
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
What luck, we may have another touchdown yet with that fumble recovery.
by Jake Ediger on Oct 23, 2005 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
thank you seattle!!!!! if that was one of us, he would be on death roll until 7 pm tonight…BP would’ve given him the chair
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
we will score 6 here our red zone offense is efficient
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
looks like the O is playing for 3 points and cortez sucks
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
I thought we should of had play action on the second down
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
yeah the guy slipped but he still grabbed witten.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
Hey gang,
Just got online. How is Tucker doing today on the left side?
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
did anyone see the snap on that punt they gave back to us…..?
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
Regardless if he slipped or not, he has to keep those arms in, that’s just rediculous
by Jake Ediger on Oct 23, 2005 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
we’re still going to win, but DAMN!! why does it always have to be so close?!
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
Picking on kickers is something that the Paul Maguires of the world do, but man, Cortez just lost his job. Period. Those three points were huge.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
if BP could find another kicker he would
cortez jacket choker
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
ho the hell do you miss a 28 yarder man? I can make that with my eyes closed and a building in front of me…….damn you superman…
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
Seattle is a good team. That doesn’t excuse the mistakes we’re making, but we came in as the underdogs.
by Jake Ediger on Oct 23, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
i don’t know why the O seemed to play for 3 when cortez is this bad
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
run for nothing, run for nothing again, now ya have to pass good play calling
by rmac on Oct 23, 2005 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
this will give momentum to these guys……it’s got to be frustrating to play like this…we get the ball at the 8and come up with nothing
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
were back to the run, run, pass sequence again. Have to mix it up more on first and second downs
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
prediction
cortez will be cut either way at by
I dont care if we win this and win at AZ
Cortez is gone
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
Derrick, hopefully not…we’ll see…it’s up to the coaches to keep them motivated and up to the D to stop em
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
i just knew they would not get a first on us. our D is too tough
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
Good defense! Should get decent field pos. , now lets take a long drive and get some points!
by sharkz on Oct 23, 2005 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
there is no more questions about this defense, they are really good
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
how ineffective is the offense? for us to hold great offense and have this score?
zimmer A+
sean payton D
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
Parcells is wired. Nice forearm to Todd Haley, guess only he talks to refs
by Gib on Oct 23, 2005 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
lets have some throwing on first and second down this series.
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
this is a good time for trick play……let’s get this over with
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
guys, I see the seahawks have 5 sacks. Who are they on? Is Tucker getting burned?
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
No tricks here. It will be run-run-pass once again.
by Jake Ediger on Oct 23, 2005 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
If we can get the ball to the fifty yard line, I want to see a flee flicker.
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
ok let’s throw the incomplete and wait for the D to save us again….playcalling sucks today….AGAIN
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
And brother sean will depend on defense
so S payton is setting us up for washington / NY end game
please say it isnt so
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
Yep offense is going back to being predictable and conservative…dammit!
by sharkz on Oct 23, 2005 5:33 PM CDT reply actions
why has the playcalling become so conservative all of a sudden?? run, run, run. i want to see the offense i saw score 33 against PHI
by rparr on Oct 23, 2005 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
That FG was big. Doesn’t look like Seattle has any deep speed though, maybe we can protect that 4 point lead (I may have to see a cardiologist if we continue to play this way).
by Gib on Oct 23, 2005 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
Has the passing offense been so bad that we have to run with a couple of rookies on every play?
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
we need protection…it has not been the case today….
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
well, what would be a cowboy game without another heart attack finish
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
if all of us internet wannabe football rats can read what dallas will do on offense, how much more can seattle defense coaches see it coming?
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
Not watching the game, but as far as playcalling, spread the blame around-you can bet Payton is getting his cue from BP on how to call it-does he want to force this D into the same position to see if they can do it?
by larry on Oct 23, 2005 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
alexander is gonna bust one of these one of these times.
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
Alexander has done nothing in this game, 47 yards rushing
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
that’s a bad challenge. we need out time outs in this game
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
I’d like to hear from all of you that I was “stupid”, by saying cut Cortez last week even after a winning kick. Where are you?
by mr. T on Oct 23, 2005 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
it’s too early to be running out the clock…two straight possessions running the ball and no first down…why not throw something 10 yds..but i havnt won and super bowls so…
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
well if BP is cuing payton so hard Bp might as well call plays
payton has a much shorter lease that zimmer
and that spells W-A-S-H-I-N-G-T-O-N
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
Mr T,
what kicker is out there that you would sign?? tell us
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
kicker chemistry
couldnt be worse right now
anybody would be better
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
sign any young kicker, then bring back the old kicking coach-he worked wonders with a bunch of nobodies
by larry on Oct 23, 2005 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
this is too much….we need more games like the Philly one or I will die before this season ends
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
Derrick we could sign ’theogt’s grandmother.
She kicks better then Cortez
Blocks better then petitti
And catches better the R. Williams
:)
by Rami on Oct 23, 2005 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
mantab…i’m gonna have to stop eating a lb. of bacon a day cause of this team.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
stupid Hasselbeck….that was the dumbest move Ive seen a QB make this whole season…it is an obvious grounding
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:44 PM CDT reply actions
Man that delayed inside blitz has worked like a charm. third time today it’s put Hasselbeck in trouble.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
good position again….cmon coaches…..remember Oakland and remember Washington…we cant expect the D to save our butts forever…we need a freaking TD
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
my point is-bring that coach we had for years (No name coming to mind)-we took nobody after nobody and made them into reliable, above avg. kickers other teams were always happy to have
by larry on Oct 23, 2005 5:46 PM CDT reply actions
Hey RAMI,
theogt’s grandmother has roshenhous as an agent and will surely want a long term deal..
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:46 PM CDT reply actions
Here go Derrick,
From last week-
mr. T Says:
October 16th, 2005 at 7:25 pm
I would cut Cortez and there are better kickers out there. Youâ€â"¢re right Cundsniff misses those FGâ€â"¢s as well. Iâ€â"¢d look at Rhett Kopp, who was cut by NE in camp, or Jeff Chandler out of Florida that was cut by the Skins in camp.
by mr. T on Oct 23, 2005 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
Rouen has been punting very poorly today (good thing too).
He has had the whole field to work with and his avg is 37 yards.
McBriar has a 40 avg. but also put them inside the 20 4 times
by Rami on Oct 23, 2005 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
derrick…just got off the phone. we clearly don’t have the cap room.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
hate to say it, but we need to get close enough for cortez to seal his fate or redeem himself
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
We can’t sign cundiff until after thanksgiving or something. We cut him on injury settlement…
by Rami on Oct 23, 2005 5:49 PM CDT reply actions
on the 38? if that’s not 4 down territory i don’t know what is.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
linus, lets hop it works…somehow I doubt it….too much pressure for young guys
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
yeah i knew we cut him but i didnt know we had to wait an extended period of time to get him back
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
linus, lets hop it works…somehow I doubt it….too much pressure for young guys
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
no way, with the 4 point lead with this time left against the #1 offense do you not punt there.
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
INT!!!!!!!! the flag must have been holding in the backfield.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
ba-he was an injury settlement-maybe we live with cortez until time’s up
by larry on Oct 23, 2005 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
Roy “no hands” williams pulls one in…how bout that.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
Our Deffense is the best in the league man….that’s three ex-top ranked offenses we’ve screwed so far
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
please sean
can you give us a TD? the platter is right here….
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
hey Bill……W I T T E N…
they are expecting you to run dammit
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
yeah larry, that’s what i thought we would do too…i always thought cundiff was fairly reliable
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
I know it’s not “cool” to say. And the BS Dallas media won’t say it, but name me a better defense in the league. I’ve seen them all several times on tape. DALLAS HAS THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE NFL!
by mr. T on Oct 23, 2005 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
now they’re expecting a pass….no surprise anymore…..dammit
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
a td here seals it. no td, will give seahawks field position and a chance to tie (if we get a fg) or win if we miss it.
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
i agree, no one has a better defense in the league that i can think of..pitt, indy and wash are up there too
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
payton has made the seattle defense all pro
absolutely ridiculous
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
One more time defense, we need you one more time to stop them
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
we need to score TD’s man…this is ridiculous……two turnovers inside their 10 gave us 3 misserable points….
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
ok, at least a td can’t beat us now. not much consolation though. we could have just sealed this game if cortez had hit the first one.
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
ba,
you are right, but the Steelers, deadskins, and Colts give up big drives and long drives at times.
by mr. T on Oct 23, 2005 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
so defense has been here before
thank you Mr. Sean Payton never should have come to this
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
Nice play on the kickoff— consider that wedge broken…
by Gib on Oct 23, 2005 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
vertical i.e. santa moss
zimmer: we apologize for payton.
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
ba,
Did anybody sign Cundiff? He might be back bye week.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
the steelers made me a believer today when they made the bengals look like the old bungles…wash has been pretty convincing though i hate to admit it…indy hasnt really faced too many good offenses yet, but their lb’s and freeney look pretty tough
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know if anyone can sign Cundiff while on injury settlement.
by Joe on Oct 23, 2005 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Cundiff is still out there and healty, but we cant sign him until after week ten
by Derrick on Oct 23, 2005 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
i havnt heard anything…how long was he out w/ the hip flexor injury?
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
Linus,
The HC is over his shoulder approving every call Payton makes. That’s Parcells’ game he’s calling. And he called about half a dozen great plays in the first 40 minutes that were undone by bad line play. It’s a team game, all the way through the staff.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
if this comes down to 4th and 15…we’re all gonna have a heart attack…at least I am
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
damn!!!!!!!!!!!! nooooooooooooooooooooo why do they screw this D always in the end….damn damn damn
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
talk about ‘who would you want instead’?? Yeah, it’s a problem-but Parcells has brought this team back-talk about kickers-what coach would you take instead? He’s why we can even play against his team?
by larry on Oct 23, 2005 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
Man we gotta learn to play D when it counts… enough excuses
by Gib on Oct 23, 2005 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
the D has done a great job the O has left them out to dry
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
gib, we gotta score more points to not have our D in this position late in the game. not a bad thing can be said about out d this game.
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
you cant keep putting D in this position
this falls on offense falls on payton falls on BP
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
coin flip won it for it last week
are we lucky again?
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
TT return it for a TD….we dont stand a chance if they get the ball again….this is too frustrating…every week the same BS
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
this is a must win game. got AZ then PHIL after bye. let’s go O
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
Like i said in an earlier post,gotta play 60 minutes….damn
by sharkz on Oct 23, 2005 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
conservative play calling….did we take any shots downfield?
by theogt on Oct 23, 2005 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
how big is that bad challenge now? cortez you idiot…we shouldve had this one
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
was he inbounds? Why use the time out there?
by BlueCheese on Oct 23, 2005 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
will BP have enough to see that the thing between him and payton isnt working?
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
Why do they FEEL the need to do this to THere fans 2 weeks in arow! GO COWBOYS!
by K.D. on Oct 23, 2005 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
very good…..very very good…..that’s the guy who just scored from 55
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
we officially suck at closing games…no more words to say
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:14 PM CDT reply actions
actually that is REALLY bad when you win the game and lose in the final minute…
isn’t that twice this year?? there’s something stinking bad
by MikeA on Oct 23, 2005 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
i would rather have flozell with a blown out knee kicking our fg’s..
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
this isnt a defensive problem
it is an offensive problem
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
this game was horrendous…the D played good except when it counted….as always…..that is not a sign of a good team…..thi is ridiculous to loose like this and to loose like we did against washington…
Cortez, pack your bags…Payton, got to hell
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
we have all of these weapons and they dont use them b/c parcells wants to stick to his runn/ball control offense. its BS and im sick of it
by nate on Oct 23, 2005 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
julius, why didnt you pull your skirt up and play today? if you are “fine”, then get out on the field like you’re paid to do
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak you are WAAAY out of line, go away and hide yourself in shame somewhere, there is NO place for that here
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
i have said it since early in the season…CORTEZ SUCKS. it wasn’t entirely his fault today but he has helped in every single close game. whoever’s grandmother is better that this chump
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
yeah that was pretty stupid to say, i laughed at first, but still stupid
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
When will BP realize Payton is not the offensive genious they think he is!
by Quaggs on Oct 23, 2005 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
kodiak i think cortez sucks but calm the f down
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
WE NEED A KICKER! Cortez sucks! where was Aleen after that miss?
by K.D. on Oct 23, 2005 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
so we stuck to the run with barber
the pass to glenn in double coverage
seattle shut down what bledsoe does best throw deep
BP has got to open his eyes and see that if every no-nothing viewer can predict what is going to happen, then the offense is way too predictable
zimmer: apology on behalf of payton / offense NOT YOUR FAULT
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
Should not have been forcing the ball downfield with the pass with :19 or :14 secs left. Should have conceded OT and kept it on the ground or take a knee.
by StarStruck on Oct 23, 2005 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
Cortez is an idiot. The D has to understand that they are screwing it up on the most important drive of the game …against NYG, against WASH (twice) and TODAY…….it cant be….it doesnt help to be good for 56, 58 minutes…gotta play all the time…..
And Bledose cant throw that INT at the end….it almost looked like he was aiming at the defender who never backed up….that was stupid on him
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
ManTab,
Yes. You got it. The defense is fantastic, except when it has one stop to make. That’s the case in Washington, against the Giants last week and today.
Nate, linus, ManTab again,
Want to send an assistant down the river. Go after Sparano. There were calls down the field. And there were passes called in the red zone. And there were sacks and holding penalties. The line sucked for four quarters. Blown counts. Holding penalties. Blown snaps. You can be the bastard genetic son of Tom Landry and Bill Walsh calling on his best day, but if you’ve got THIS line in front of you, you’re gonna look bad.
And let’s save a big heading dose of blame for Bledsoe. He made at least three of those tunnel vision throws to Glenn in double coverage today. That last one was the only one that burned him.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
What’s the deal with going conservatve when we need to open it up and what’s the deal with opening it up when we need to be conservative!!!!!! Sean Payton needs to be taken to the shed and shot…offense lost the game big time!!!!!!!!!!! RRRRRRRRR…I’m angy
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
We can’t score in the red zone the past 2 weeks! lets try a pass every now and then down there and maybe keep the D guessing alittle!
by K.D. on Oct 23, 2005 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
Aside from Kodiak being a PUNK!
several comments:
Dallas has the best 57min Defense in the NFL
Dallas is 6 – 1 if NOT for the Field Goal Kicker…
but, I’m not placing all the blame on him, totally, again, nor the Defense; this IS the Offense, and it’s the BP conservative BS, that’s infects Payton’s brain; one extra FG in the Skin game and this one, and last week, and this isn’t even an issue that’s being discussed….
But, the playcalling and conservative stuff, caused Dallas to be in the position to have to rely on Cortez, and Cortez is not up to it…
So, Bill can blame Rookies, he can blame whatever, but it’s him, his Playcalling philosopy and Payton’s fowllowing him….
Besides, Bledsoe was just OFF all game, you could see it….
Probably goes back to the O-Line, Bledsoe has scatter feet because he’s not sure when he’s getting hit…
There were 3 glaring weaknesses, going into this season; FG kicker; O-Line, Secondary.
Secondary has done okay, so it comes down to coaching, playcalling, FG Kicker; that’s it in a nutshell….
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know whose the bigger idiot right now payton or cortez…it’s too soon to tell…….I’m in a daze of fury and disappointment!!!! need liquor!!!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak,
You’re gonna be banned buddy. Pay a little attention to who runs this blog, you bone ignorant f***. Enjoy your last few minutes here.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak,
If the only way you can insult Jose Cortez is to make ridiculously stupid immigrant jokes that have been made 1,000 times before, I would advocate that you stop posting. Try talking about his kicking instead of his race. His ethnicity has nothing to do with anything.
by Steve on Oct 23, 2005 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael
have to realize that BP is responsible for assistant payton if payton call poorly — and he has consistently — then there is something going wrong in the chemistry
when a defense plays so well and the offense consistently lets down
this is a problem with the play calling and if BP cant get it done with Payton, then it falls on BP
there is no way this team should have lost with decent play calling
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
Dale in Atlanta…yes best 57 minute defense in football period…worst 60 minute offensive caller in football…sean payton…I’m so angry!!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
I put it squarely on the o-line. Dallas wins going away with the plays called if the line doesn’t keep breaking down.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
what makes this loss even worse…. ny, wash, and philly both won today
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
dale if iam a punk then come get some iam in va and will put the smackdown on you.
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
yes, freaking Giants win…we loose and look like idiots and I have a f**cking hurricane on top of my a$$ about to hit us badly…..what a sunday man!!!!!!!!
love you all….let’s make sure Arizona pays for this…..ufff it hurts…
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
whose making race jokes??? That’s jacked up…race has nothing to do with sean payton’s play calling he just sucks…oh, you mean cortez…yeah that’s still not cool…Kick him off Rafeal!!!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
no offense but if his green card aint vaild then he must go
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
Deffense looks Great till last 2 min and they seem to forget how to play. AHHHHHH!!!!!!
by K.D. on Oct 23, 2005 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael
if BP agrees with you then we keep doing the same thing
look there is a pattern here — the constant has been offense
the call against Rivera was wrong
but if BP agrees with you then I guess we say that Washington, NY, and now Seattle all offensive line problems? HA
Sorry but this falls on Payton falls on BP
nobody and I mean no other team has this consistently happen to them
ahead in 4th quarter a BP guarantee? Not anymore with Payton
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:30 PM CDT reply actions
no way it was play calling by far…we needed a td in the second half and we were running three straight run plays three and out…that’s bull crap anyway you look at it. ….but yeah the o-line looked like they had just got off the plane or something.
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:30 PM CDT reply actions
kodiak you dumbass why wouldn’t he be legal to play. he is only on tv you moron. wtf
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
it’s a mixture between the playcalling, the line, the d not playing w/ urgency at the end of the game, and bad luck…cant put it on one thing because in football, you need a little bit of good in all aspects
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
kodiak…you’re an ass…go get drunk with your redneck friends or something…this is football talk…you ass chaser!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
rafael how is it racist to check his green card. I have spanish in my family. What I cant be mad that he cost dallas 2 games.
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
You know this playing great defense for 58 -59 minutes ssssssss……. stuff and only scoring enough points to keep the other team in the game has been and is old. Every game we have played (with the exception of the Eagles game) have been won or lost in this manner. As we kicked the last field goal to put us up 10 to 3, I think every Cowboys fan out there was thinking, here we go again, another washington game. One again, the offense did not do enough to win the game. Parcells should have a long talk with all members of the offense (coaching staff included). As the reality is that Da Boyz should be 6 and 1 (with the only semi legitimate loss being to the Raiders and even that one went down to the last offensive series for the Cowboys).
by K-Vaughn on Oct 23, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak you ARE a Punk and trust me, you don’t want to piss of this 6’ 3" Marine, trust me buddy…
Raf, I can’t tell you how to run your Blog, but that PUNK needs to go, because I’ll take him up on his offer, and drive to VA, and he’ll being crying like the weasel he is, when I get finished with him…
I’m torqued off too; but go visit www.redneck.com Kodiak, if you’re gonna talk totally unacceptable crap here….
Raf, okay, as usual, you are the voice of sanity, IF the O-line is better, the Dallas O probably does score enough points in the Skin and ‘Hawks game to win it, both times; but also, Cortez had HIS chance in both, and didn’t deliver, and because the O-line is so weak, BP and Payton HAVE to compensate…
Anyway, I’m actually not surprised; I predicted this outcome to my wife, mid-way thru the 3rd quarter, it’s just what happens this year…that’s all…
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
mr. T just pull through…I’ve seen worse losses…but this one stung pretty bad….no reason to give up life.
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
kodiak, cortez is a crappy kicker..there is no need to be an idiot
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
we may lose, but at least we have hope for next week…last year we would get blown out and show no promise…i predict we beat arizona and after the bye week go on a tear and only lose 2 or 3 games
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak,
I’m sure your ancestry was first on your mind when you called him a spic cockroach.
I’ve already sent out the warrant for your permanent eviction. Raul will execute it soon.
Happy trails, moron.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
MANTAB you must live near me…same fricking thing every week I never saw a team so intent on losing. Drives me nuts. They need an O Line and a kicker, but above all, some HEART!
by Maurice on Oct 23, 2005 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
yeah Kodiak..but no one’s saying that payton’s play calling is becouse of his status as a u.s. citizen or not…just stop being tasteless man!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
emrdog, actually it is…this sucks…this is twice and almost three times this year this happens…..you can go 10 seasons w/o loosing games likes this
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
EMRDOG whos being racist. Yes iam a redneck eating some deer right now. Been a fan since i was born , bought the package on direct tv just to watch dallas play. Every year i drop 225 dollars to watch them play just a little mad. Cortez is responsible for this loss.
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
dale, dont be amoron…driving to va to kick a man’s ass is stupid in itself…the best way to shut a child up is to ignore him..right?
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
does anyone else just feel sick…I mean physically sick…I think I’m having a heart attack
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
No Emr but I almost got a tear befor I threw my hat against the wall and noe the wif’es mad at me.
by Maurice on Oct 23, 2005 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
whatever, man…I don’t care… that’s great…pat yourself on the back…but stop being some ignorant cowboy fan whose talking shit on someone’s race…I’m a cowboy fan and when you say that shit it makes all of us look ignorant…cowboy fans are tolerant…I mean we’ve lost ALOT of stupid games and we still watch…so don’t give me your crap…I ain’t listening!!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
rafael u want to kick me off thats fine. Iam just voicing my anger. What kind of site will kick me off for that.
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
kodiak, criticize someone for their ability not for their race
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 6:42 PM CDT reply actions
enough of this….read you all next week…today sucked….and no, we do not have the best D in the league…gotta play when it counts…..the kicker has to go to hell, or to NY or Philly…
This sucked…the wholeteam sucked….Barber saved his ass today….the rest of them get a big F….
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:42 PM CDT reply actions
Doesn’t matter what the kicker’s heritage is…you don’t miss that many kicks and keep your job in the NFL. Whatever happened to Richie Cunningham?
by Maurice on Oct 23, 2005 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
oh, man…can we even beat the Cards now???? oh this hurts sooooo bad.
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
is kevin butler still walking w/o a walker? if so, sign that “kid”
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael
when you do your write up analysis know this:
if you dont ask the right questions you wont get the right answers
there is a constant here teams stay in the game the game comes down to the very end
why cant this team put anybody away vis Eagles?
eagles game was a game of OFFENSE
this isnt an offensive line problem it is a sean payton bill parcells problem
putting this on offensive line is a red herring OFFENSIVE PLAY CALLING
tell BP that he sets payton free or BP should take over and call the plays
the tweener on the fence offensive play calling strategy aint workin
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak, when you’re drowning in S*&%, it’s best to keep your mouth SHUT!
There’s nothing you can say, or explain it, you said it man, GO AWAY!
Besides, aside from being a racist, and showing the whole world on a BLOG; you talking crap about his immigaration status; you don’t have a clue if he’s an American citizen, or a Green Card, or what, so aside from being racist, you are an ignoramus too…
He played at Oregon State for 4 years, he was born in El Salvador, and you have NO idea if he’s a citizen, a Green Card, or if he’s on an H1-B work visa, you BUFFOON….
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Not quite sure barber saved himself today. There were enough errors to give big bill something to chew him out about.
by K-Vaughn on Oct 23, 2005 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak,
Just voicing your anger using racial slurs and asking for a green card on a guy who is a native US citizen? Riiiight.
You’re pathetic Kodiak.
What kind of site throws off idiots like you? One run by a Mexican American who had heard this type of crap from your type once too often.
You won’t be missed.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:45 PM CDT reply actions
look this team is good best since cant rember. but they need to score more then 3 down there on the goal line. Why bp didnt go for it on 4th and 1 beats me. Could have drove the nail in. You could just feel that seattle was going to win. ba iam not a child iam man just trying to be funny insteas of breaking my tv
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t know about all of you? But I am getting tired of this conservative play calling by BP & Payton. We only score 1 touchdown in the last couple of games. Instead we are run, run, pass. RUN, RUN, PASS!. Plus, does Bledsoe know anyone else besides Glenn is on this team? You can’t find anyone else when you decide you’re going to Glenn automatically. Where is our other receivers, tight end and heaven forbid we try to actually score points during the game, instead of trying to playball control. We had 20 some odd seconds on the clock at the end of the half, 2-3 time outs and we decided to down it and walk off the field. At the end of the game, we have the ball and we’re calling a flea flicker. Give me a break. No, I believe we will keep this kicker because there probably isn’t a better one out there. But we should be bringing in free agents now! Enough said!!!!!
by TDTEXAS on Oct 23, 2005 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
Why’d they not run Thompson so much this game…he looked real good when he did run???? ____I’m putting my aplication in for the offensive coordinater job….after I sober up.
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
yeah i know you were trying to be funny, but doing it when you know people will get pissed off is stupid and childish…the cockroach comment was funny because he resembles a cockroach but calling him a spic isnt very funny…breaking your tv would have been funnier
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
You’re right Raf; my wife is from the Philippines, and my 3 daughters are “hafl/half”, and you should hear the crap that they get to hear, living down here in Georgia, just for that!
There’s no “joke” there, get rid of the punk…
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
Linus….the offense sucked but the D has to play when it counts man. It is already th third game that the opp scores with under two minutes to tie or win….there is no point on being the best D in the league for 55 minutes….that is why I say the loss is on all of them….
Offense
Deffense
and ST (Cortez and the long snapper too, the miss field goal was on the kicker AND on the snap, and McBriar saved the snapper also on the punt we recovered…no matter what the result was, the snap was horrendous).
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:49 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah that’s right, rafeal….show kodiak some culture!!!! ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha….you messed up big time!!!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:50 PM CDT reply actions
Mantab
so if BP agrees with you then we’ll see i think wrong
I say is all on OFFENSE
this defense with a decent offense would be PRAISED all day long
nope — this is a mr. sean payton party problem and BP let it happen
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
Dale get a grip man. I dont care if yo who rah or not. IF YOU DONT LIKE ATLANTA THEN LEAVE WHO RAH
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
we’re 4th on the division ranks guys……this sunday cant get bad enough…..
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
yeh, I’ll be honest…you can’t count on any deffense to save the game 3 or 4 times…the D did its job…I feel great about our D…but it’s really scary to see how much our offense has fallen off in just 3 weeks…where’s drew…where’s terry glen…it’s like they’ve been replaced by body snatchers or something….
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
just gotta wait until next week….i’ll have to see who the other peeps in the division get next week to see if we can make up some ground
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:53 PM CDT reply actions
Philly @ Denver
Wash @ Giants
we could end up right back in first place….
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
whcih is going to make this loss hurt just a bit more…..and the one against washington will hurt even if we win the super bowl
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
Linus,
So are you saying to fire Parcells, since he let this all go down?
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
Cortez missed due to a crappy snap. really we have to score 7 when you get down there and put it away especially after the turnover. FG’s won’t get us to the promised land. That D is phenomenal excepting the obvious last 2 mins but it would sure help if th eO would pitch in and either finish a drive or hang onto the ball instead of waitng for the D to bail them out time and again. So close to being Kings.
by Don Y on Oct 23, 2005 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
bill’s philosophy isnt going to get him a win every game…who goes 16-0 every year? ya win some ya lose some
by ba on Oct 23, 2005 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone else feeling a bit uneasy about Bledsoe??? i mean I know the guy has been great so far this season but today is the only day i’ve really questioned him….i hate to say it i really do
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
"Wash @ Giants
we could end up right back in first place…. "
Unless they both tie in this game. :o)
Otherwise, we’re guaranteed to be a half-game behind the Giants or the Skins, depending on who wins.
by Brandon on Oct 23, 2005 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
“Anyone else feeling a bit uneasy about Bledsoe??? i mean I know the guy has been great so far this season but today is the only day iâ€â"¢ve really questioned him….i hate to say it i really do”
From the standpoint that he’s started a few seasons off great only to fade in the second half, I do. I call it the Kenny Rogers syndrom without all the anger management issues.
by Brandon on Oct 23, 2005 6:59 PM CDT reply actions
This game just proves it will be a dog fight all year. Sure I am disgusted, another game we should have won easily. How do you think the defense feels. Bledsoe was due for a bad game and there it was.
I just hope we can eck out the wild card. The offensive play calling was alittle suspect at times but Drew just did not have it today.
by gman on Oct 23, 2005 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
What doe sit mean when my post says, “Your comment is awaiting moderation”?
by StarStruck on Oct 23, 2005 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
LOL, good one brandon….yeh, that 3rd and short near the goal when he tried to run it in and had witten wide open really made me wonder if he’d lost a contact or something
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
RAINY GAME 2 ABOUT TO START. GO ASTROS. LATER.
by skullmunky on Oct 23, 2005 7:01 PM CDT reply actions
StarStruck,
It means the comment is being held for someone like Raul to review before it’s released into the thread. You probably wrote a word or phrase that tripped one of the filters. It happens. Happened to me a couple of times.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 7:03 PM CDT reply actions
I agree g man but I’ve got to put the blame on this one with the play calling…I mean Payton was calling plays like he couldn’t see the scoreboard…if you are up 7-3 getting the ball in the second half, you really need to get on top quick…and what can I say??? we didn’t…
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:03 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael
if you argue with your wife this way you wont be married long
no I’m not saying that I am saying this is the problem
If BP sees that his offensive guy is calling bad then why? I suggest that payton is being inhibited and BP is not setting him free like zimmer
either you trust payton or you dont
hey, i heard that from BP
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
I think linus has a point…is this bill’s fault or sean’s fault…this screws up my reasoning…
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
emrdog,
You’ve touched on something that’s been nagging me the past two weeks. The bad Bledsoe is starting to emerge. Some of his bad habits — locking on to receivers, is starting to come out. And they need to be arrested soon before he goes out and throws four picks in a game.
The Cowboys are the last team in the division to get the bye. In years past I always thought they got it too soon. This year, it’s too late. Considering the work they need with Petitti and getting Tucker and now the center position sorted out, not to mention that they probably need not just a kicker but a new snapper (did you notice how ALL the punt snaps were to McBriar’s right? When the game stayed 7-3 I was worried that the snapper would sail one wide past him and THAT would cost us the game. )
I think they can get the rough edges worked out. Look at Washington. They played the Cowboys, got sacked five times and had Brunell chased like crazy. They go to bye, work for two weeks on their protection and blitz pickup, and they’ve been a different team since then.
I only wish the break was before the Cards game, not after it.
by Rafael Vela on Oct 23, 2005 7:08 PM CDT reply actions
Doesn’t matter whose fault it is……. just get it fixed so we can move on.
by K-Vaughn on Oct 23, 2005 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
there’s no reasoning here guys….
The offense has to score more and the D has to play when it counts…..that’s it…..there’s not much more than that…the Offense has to score by excecuting, the coaches have to call the plays that will give us the the wins, and the deffense has to stop the opponent and get turn overs
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
Man Tab,
You are correct. The Defense has pretty much produced up until the last couple of minutes in a game. The Offense needs better execution.
by K-Vaughn on Oct 23, 2005 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
If we need the bye to make sure we put it together for Arizona, at home then might as well call the season a bust man…..
Arizona sucks and we have to beat them easily…..even with Cortez at QB…If we cant beat Arizona, then just play all the rookies and start thinking about next year with 3 picks in the draft dedicated to the O line….
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael,
I totally concer….I knew without a doubt today might be a bit rough knowing the problems with the o line…and yes, oh please bye week come quick…take us away, oh bye week.
But as far as bledsoe goes. He just looks like a different QB now. In games like San Diego and Philly he was making impossiblly accurate throws…and now I see him just freezing up and taking a beating. I think today would be a good time to reinstate that old nick name they gave him…starts with s….think elise island in new york…we’ve got to somehow (and I don’t know how) make him the “bus driver” like everyone has been talking. through the first part of the season we haven’t done that at all…we’ve relied on bledsoe way to much. young guys…(take your pick of RBs) need to step up.
Let’s all remember why we are so upset….DALLAS SHOULD HAVE WON THIS GAME !!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
Kodiak, you’ve gone from racism, to stupidity, to sheer buffoonery…again, I kindly urge you to shut up, it’s getting embarrassing for you….how does the shoe leather taste???
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
payton is singin to BP
“Please release me set me free…..”
management principle
have to let your people go if sean thinks he must be BP then he isnt being sean and isnt being set free
Either let sean go or BP come and do it yourself but you cant have it both ways
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 7:16 PM CDT reply actions
Raf, I agree I think I saw the bad Bledsoe today…the one that really stood out for me, was the run on 3rd down, he just locked in on that run, and wouldn’t throw to Witten who was runing open parallel to him for 10 yards, for anything…that’s a TD, and game over there, and then we wouldn’t all be banging on Cortez or BP..
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
Bledose had a bad throw at the end…other than that he has been over par so far this season. Now that I think about it, I wouldn’t put this one on him….again, we were predicatble on offense, our protection was bad today and we just can’t expect the QB t play well with those two factors…
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
DALe in Atlanta,
I share your pain on that 3rd down Bledsoe run…it was embarassing….bad bledsoe day.
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
I am calm now after scaring a bar ful of people watching the Bills game.
1. – Bye cortez, I wanted you to do well but you are done.
2. – This one is on Bledsoe. Too many passes to Glenn in Dbl coverage, held the ball to long. Locked onto his first option too much. MISSED WITTEN when he was rolling out on that naked bootleg play to the right.
3. – the flea flicker? Again?!? You do that once in the season and then leave it alone. You think you are playing Mississippi Valley this week??
4. – Stop with the talk about the D. The offense scored 10 points. I am waiting for someone to talk s**t about RWilliams. Oh, by the way, I think the keith davis experiment has about twelve seconds left. he was the weakest player on the Defense.
5. – Kodiak go f**k yourself.
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
IF I stand back, and take a totally dispassionate look at this; there was NO one of us, who really thought, realistically, going into the Bye week, that Dallas could honestly be 5 – 3, with a really good chance to have been either 7 – 1, or even 8-0; but all those were probabilities…and it’s amazing…
So, I think that closeness of it all, is what causes the sheer frustration of it all, for everyone…
If Dallas had been Blown out, in 6 of the 8 games, it would be a different thing, totally, but the closeness of the games, and the 3 heartbreak losses make it worse…
Also, I think, we all know, that as a poster said above, Dallas is really playing for next year, not this one; because I’m not sure anyone realistically thinks they’re a SB winner this year….
The part that scares me about that, though, is that Bledose is a year older, so is Keyshawn, and LA, and TG, and Rivera; and IF The don’t do it next year, then, they have to retool all those positions, before they can think SB again, and that could take another 2 – 3 years after that….
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 7:22 PM CDT reply actions
Don’t forget ,Cortez is part of the offense.He has to do his job as well.Yeah,there may have been some bad play calling,but this is not the first game Coetez could have won if he was doing his job.GET RID OF HIM.
by BigKev on Oct 23, 2005 7:22 PM CDT reply actions
Whoa,
I agree ManTAb…i really think Bledsoe played bad but I don’t think you can take all the blame off of him…I would split the blame this way 50-sean payton/whoever called offensive plays 10bledsoe 10% lackluster running game 10% cortez 10% rainy seattle weather…I don’t know that how I see it
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:23 PM CDT reply actions
Big Kev
see my prediction above. I say cortez will be gone after by week
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 7:24 PM CDT reply actions
i PRAY YOUR RIGHT,THEN WE CAN WORK ON BETTER PLAY CALLING,IF WE KNOW WE HAVE A KICKER WE CAN COUNT ON.
by BigKev on Oct 23, 2005 7:25 PM CDT reply actions
Raf,
exactly right about the deep snapper, he had McBriar dancing back there like Barishnikov.
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 7:26 PM CDT reply actions
yeh, i think it’s a pretty safe bet to say cortez might want to pack his bags…but let me repeat that’s no reason to make fun of his race
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:26 PM CDT reply actions
What kicker is out there? Everyone keeps talking about getting rid of cortez but who are we going to replace him with?
by K-Vaughn on Oct 23, 2005 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
I think we need to get a new long snapper. I think that will solve a lot of ills in the kicking area.
by K-Vaughn on Oct 23, 2005 7:28 PM CDT reply actions
I think a any minor league soccer player can kick better than cortez right now so I don’t think it matters
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:28 PM CDT reply actions
Good thing we have our whipping boy next week – Arizona. I was actually wondering if Bledsoe would get up after being hammered on the bootleg. after this game I wanted to see Romo.
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
k-vaughn
its kinda of like anybody-will-be-better
the team doesnt trust cortez bp doesnt either
so that chemistry or lack thereof is the problem
bp will find someone else
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
Dale, I am not that worried about receivers….I think KJ has at least three more years, Glenn about 2 and then Crayton, Copper are not that bad. We do need something better than Romo or Henson after Bledose….the O line needs to be retooled completely via draft this year…..just like we fixed the D last year
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 7:30 PM CDT reply actions
Parcells plays the percentages, the odds put the other team up against the wall do or die, this causes them to play their best and we lose, or get lucky and win a coin flip…the only game they did’t do this was against philly. They have to play like underdogs to win there not good enough YET
by TM on Oct 23, 2005 7:36 PM CDT reply actions
All I know is that if we lose to Arizona then we might as well play the rookies like an earlier post mentioned and hope that we can somehow draft Leinart and a young stud reciever
by Gavin on Oct 23, 2005 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
TM good point….i think today was a good example of how Parcells “plays the percentages” ….but let’s think about those percentages…we were without crayton, J.J., and Flozell…on the road…in all honesty we shouldn’t have had much of a shot…but I think in a situation like that we’ve got to put the other team on the ropes and we didn’t do that.
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
Gavin, if you put Leinart and a stud WR with that O line, you will suffer cronic depression all through next season my friend…
You need a good O line and I’ll guarantee you we’ll get deep into the playoffs…..
by ManTab on Oct 23, 2005 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
ManTab, you’re right about the O-line; despite the sometimes mistakes, I thing the RB stable is very good, maybe the deepest the Cowboys have had, since the 70’s; most people don’t realize, because Emmitt was so good, and so durable, how lucky we were in the 90’s, getting by with essentially him, and him alone, and Moose at FB.
I think Polite is probably pretty good at FB, if they’d use him more; so the unit that needs the most work next year, is the O-Line, for sure, and if Crayton can come back, and continue to make progress, and they can get one/two more serviceable years out of Bledsoe, Keyshawn, and TG, then maybe all is okay.
And, let me speak the hearesy, I’m a FAN of Nguyen, for sure, but it seems to these uneducated eyes, that Shandle and Fujita and James, playing more since he got hurt, have solidified the LB corps like crazy.
Except for L Jordan/Raiders, when the Defense was just weak for some reason, the Defense has just basically SHUT DOWN every major RB they’ve faced this year…
by Dale in Atlanta on Oct 23, 2005 7:43 PM CDT reply actions
Total homer question…
Josh Brown kicks the 50 yard game winner then takes his helmet off and throws it to the ground. Isn’t that a penalty? Nevermind me, just bitter.
by JKDallas on Oct 23, 2005 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
DALE AND RAFAEL,
Coid the rain have played apart or maybe bledsoe was having a off day since it seemed that he was looking all day to throw into double coverage.
by kodiak on Oct 23, 2005 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
Rafael. You guys are right. Bledsoe has gotten down to locking on to a receiver like Glenn all the time. So Seattle chose to double team Glenn a lot and that was exactly where he was going. Somebody has to be open if the other team is double teaming Glenn all the time. Get Anthony Thomas out of there. Make him the 3rd stringer and use MB111 and TT if JJ is still hurt. Do we have a probelm with JJ gettting hurt every season?
by TDTEXAS on Oct 23, 2005 7:51 PM CDT reply actions
The bottom line problem right now with the Cowboys is what it has been all season – they are far far too conservative offensively. It is though they play to not lose insead of being aggressive and going for the win. It is so damn frustrating to watch the run the ball on so many plays where the play action pass would seem to be the more logical approach. Didn’t they learn anything from the Eagles’ game?? I mean, they were very aggressive offensively in that game and put the Eagles on the defensive from the beginning. In this game, they continued to run the ball 95% of time in the red zone. They could not capitalize on the mistakes of the Seahawks which they should have easily been able to do.
There really needs to be some soul searching on this. Because Bledsoe is not the most mobile of QBs, you need to not place him in the position of 3rd and long all of the time. I was nearly pulling my hair out on this one.
Parcells has no one to blame but himself for his inept and conservative approach to offense. The defense also needs to play a lot smarter when in the last two minutes of the game and stop getting away from what they were doing for the first 58 minutes.
by Robert on Oct 23, 2005 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
TDTex,
I feel vgood about BarberIII. i think that he is the second best runner on the team and if he can stay healthy and JJ can’t then…..
i don’t know why we went away from MBIII in the second half. So TT can get meaningless yards?
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 7:55 PM CDT reply actions
We lost this game because parcells lost his cool. If I was that WR coach, my resignation would be on Jones desk tomorrow morning.
by josh on Oct 23, 2005 7:58 PM CDT reply actions
i disagree I think TT looked considerably better than Barber…he was much quicker…better vision…I think barber looked good but i still think he lacks the vision and quickness to be consistantly productive
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 7:59 PM CDT reply actions
How in the hell do we lose another one like that? BP coaches like a pussy offensively. We shut down another No. 1 offense and score 10 points. With the ball inside the 10 with less than 3 minutes left—we score 6 and the game is over—but what does BP do?—He calls two runs up the middle and a bootleg!!!!!!!! Furthermore Bledsoe has got to get over his love affair with Glenn. Seattle knew he would look that way on that last play cause that’s what he’s done all year—Keyshawn is the only one you throw that ball to…period. Just stupid anyway with no timeouts—what did BP expect to accomplish with that throw anyway—setup for a hail mary? Stupid, stupid football. The defense should be pissed that because BP is scared to open up the offense—we keep losing close games—unbelievable!!!!!!!!!
by Marlymack on Oct 23, 2005 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
Ermdog,
If you were Ray Rhodes and you saw TT come into the game you would
1) know that it was a run and stack the box cause this kid can’t block
and 2) bring your safeties in on the edges to neutralize his speed to the outside.
TT is two seasons removed from playing at Irving HIGH SCHOOL! Barber had 95 yards on what 25 carries? He is the #2 RB. TT needs another training camp before he will be able to make a big impact on something other thanST. Remember what BP says there are a lot of guys that can run, but can they do anything else?
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
I agree, but I am worried about JJ. He did not seem to be the same quick running back we had last year. Maybe over-coached? Let him change the hole and back up and hit the cut back when he needs to without getting chewed out. I believe that was one of his strengths last year. I hope he is not an injury prone runner? But I also like Barber. Still being a rookie, but making great strides when given the chance. TT will be very good by the end of the year also. We need to be aggresive and attack every game just like we did to the Eagles.
by TDTEXAS on Oct 23, 2005 8:28 PM CDT reply actions
Parcells must stop trying to keep these games close or he will watch his best dallas team yet, miss the playoffs—we should be 6-1, and really he never even tried to score against Oakland—we should be 7-0!!!!!!! His conservative playcalling has cost us at least 6 to 8 wins in 3 years!!! This game should have been a blowout, but BP shows no faith in his offense. Keyshawn cannot be stopped in the redzone—-another fade inside the 10 would have iced the game—but he calls Bledsoe to bootleg? This is the best defense in football—they are just starting to gel—-and BP is wasting it with horrendous playcalling. No deep balls today after the one Bledsoe threw in double-coverage to glenn that got picked off.. He refuses to use Price’s speed—-Seattle was obviously taking Glenn awayall day and BP has no answer for it. I know that Payton didn’t call the plays down the stretch—BP is too much a control freak to let that happen, so I know BP f’d it up. Roy’s pick should have ended this game!!!!!!!
by Marlymack on Oct 23, 2005 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
I’d be careful while saying that all the fault falls into Parcells and Payton shoulders, they weren’t standing at tackle, Bryce Fisher owned Petitti and Wistrom (for those who were doubting him) showed what he’s been showing for 8 years now, he’s relentless and is pretty good in run support. How many times a run crumbled because neither Petitti nor Tucker could handle their assignment? I counted 5 runs.
And then you look at all those penalties… 2 were drive killers.
I won’t say that the blame falls on the coaches, the play calling was conservative because the Line kept the game that way.
by Chandus on Oct 23, 2005 9:09 PM CDT reply actions
For a team that has all there vets on offense why in the hell are we being so conservative on the offense and putting all the pressure on the backs of are young defense. Are defense is playing very well but what is BP thinking by playing so darn conservative on O. We need to go out and open it up and take the pressure off are deffense. Our defense is young and still trying to gel as a dominant unit and doing quite well at it but they just dont need to always be put in the situation to have to shut the other team down at the end of the game. If BP continues to put them in that situation they are going to lose confidence and regress.Bottom line is BP needs to open it up and play to win not to just keep it close and expect our young D to save the game week in and week out!
by Leo on Oct 23, 2005 9:18 PM CDT reply actions
o -line or offensive play calling? which caused? a little like chicken or the egg.
I think play calling caused the problem.
It became overly predictable within a range
This play calling created undue pressure on o-line
utlimately created too much pressure on D — and too much opportunity for the seahawks
its the same o-line that created how many points against eagles?
the same eagles that stymied san diego which had conservative play calling today
o line failed because of predictable play calling
by linus on Oct 23, 2005 9:19 PM CDT reply actions
Parcells is a dumb ass. We should have taken that game to OT and given the D a little rest.
by Cash on Oct 23, 2005 9:22 PM CDT reply actions
Chandus,
Even if the play calling was a bit conservative – I don’t think so – How come we were only a gimme field goal and a bad bootleg call and a poor decesion by Bledsoe from a 13 point swing?
Wistrom had a good game. Nice numbers. Whatever…
I didn’t see him bleed Tucker, I saw coverage sacs and/or Bledsoe throwing late after locking in on one guy.
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
BarberIII was having a monster game until the TT experiment was again given the go-ahead. It ain’t pre season. Let him play on ST and maybe one or two third downs after the first half. Why stop going to MBIII?
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
Oh one more thing, get PPrice the hell off of punt return duty!!!!
by AlanTdot on Oct 23, 2005 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
I don’t want to sound like a whiner here, but did anyone else see the block in the back on the “game-clinching” interceptoin. I’ve watched the replay 20 times and it is clear to me that Glenn was pushed in the back by a Seattle player (hard time making out whether it was Manuel or Herndon) after the interception was made and once it started to be run back. I am also of the opinion that Glenn would have tripped up Babineaux either (a) making him fall to the ground right there and thus the Hawks would not have been in fg position or (b) he would have been severely slowed down such that a tackle could have likely occuured before the point at which Witten knocked him out of bounds. I wasn’t aware that there is a hiatus on block-in-the-back calls. Hmm.
by rrspencer on Oct 23, 2005 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
Dunno about the block in the back.
I haven’t had the stomach to watch a replay of that pick.
And even if there was a block in the back, I’m too tired to complain about the officiating.
Cowboys had their chances to put the game away after two fourth quarter turnovers by Seattle.
They only converted those TO’s to three measly points.
And there’s your game.
by Brandon on Oct 23, 2005 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
I agree with Spencer. The first time I saw that replay I saw the block in the back. But we shouldn’t be complaining about that. We should be complaining about being inside the 10 yard line 2 times, and coming away with 3 POINTS!!! 3 Points. If Jose Cortez would have just made the simple chip shot, which by the way, that chance came only because of a very untimely injury by Billy Cundiff, we would’ve won because Bledsoe wouldn’t have had to throw into double coverage, he would’ve been taking a knee and keeping us at first place in the NFC East, instead we are in LAST.
by Wyatt on Oct 23, 2005 10:52 PM CDT reply actions
Listen, M. Barber ain’t as good as you all are giving him credit for…I remember the Oakland loss and there were times when he looked awful. Granted I will say he is bigger and may be able to take on rushers better but thompson runs way better. And its not just his speed, he runs with purpose. Barber will never be a starting back anywhere. Thompson has the potential to be a starter in a few years. And so what, I know this isn’t the preseason, but we needed yards. Barber can’t bounce it outside, he lacks the speed…those little 3 yard runs toward the end of the game were not getting it done.
Overall, it’s just my opinion but there are more important reasons why dallas lost today…Barber did run well…not well enought, but that’s not why they lost today. It was bad play calling, bad Bledsoe, and bad mojo…where’s the mojo? Anyone remember the team that squashed Philly? Where’s the MoJO??
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
that lost was on the offense and the conservative play calling.
all game long we were giving that game away.
also the one of the difference between a winning team and a losing team is a good kicker and we don’t have one or we had one. cortez is not going to cut it.
da boys played not to lose instead of playing to win. they need to get that attitude if they are going to be a winner this year. they simply tried to sit on the lead instead of scoring some more.
i guess drew bledsoe has started reading his own press clippings huh! what happen to just managing the game and not turning it over?
lastly, get rid of cortez, he lost the redskins game and this one.
go cowboys!!!
by alan on Oct 23, 2005 11:53 PM CDT reply actions
But where’s the MOJO???? it’s the flipping mojo!!!!
by emrdog on Oct 23, 2005 11:54 PM CDT reply actions
Agree. The loss can’t be blamed on the officials, however I lived in Seattle and was at the Dal/sea game last year and had to listen to SEattle fans whine about the refs blowing it. I just like to have a little ammo if they want to bring that crap up again.
All that being said, the conservative crap killed me also. Although one could form a reasonable argument that Parcells’ LACK of conservatism on that final possession is what cost us a trip to overtime.
I think I am going to go wash my contact lenses in spicy buffalo wing sauce so that I can continue this pain I’m feeling.
by rrspencer on Oct 24, 2005 12:08 AM CDT reply actions
a couple notes here
1. The offensive line is not to blame, bledsoe simply had no one to throw to, we found that out on the last interception, it was a desperate attempt and he had time.
2. Cortez is gone. So we can’t blame it on him anymore. Even though many are to blame for this loss.
3. Where was our defense on that last Seatle drive.
4. Did anyone see our tight end wide open in the endzone when bledsoe decided to run it!!!!!! bledsoe just doesn’t have that vision anymore i guess.
5. Blame it on the rain.
Its still early Cowboys fans.
It was an “away” game….expected loss.
We will be O.K.
by jeff on Oct 25, 2005 8:53 AM CDT reply actions
i forgot to mention witten getting takled in the endzone too……that one hurt.
by jeff on Oct 25, 2005 9:06 AM CDT reply actions
I’m gonna at the Cardinals game. We’re gonna whip em bad. Too bad Julius is still injured. He’s my Notre Dame guy! I need him there. We should be 6-1 at least. I can’t take these losses anymore, first the Redskins, now everygame i am having a heart attack and I’m a teenager. How long will I live when I’m 60 if I have this much stress every Sunday!! Let’s do it like we did to the Eagles, if we can beat the NFC Champions, we can beat nearly anyone.
GO COWBOYS! BEAT CARDINALS!
by Wyatt on Oct 25, 2005 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
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