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Come Monday, one of the Cowboys division rivals is going to be 4-4. The question is which of the Redskins or Eagles will continue their mid-season slide? Both are definitely sliding. The Redskins have lost three of four after starting 3-0. Had Seattle's Josh Brown not clanged the potential game winner off the left upright at the end of regulation time, Washington would be looking at losses in four of its last five. The defense, which has carried the team, got manhandled by the Giants last week.

The Eagles are little better. Had they not returned a late blocked field goal for a TD against the Chargers the Eagles would have a three game losing streak. They entered the bye two games ago with a leaky defense and no running game. They still have no running game. Andy Reid has the same o-line as last year, but insists on ignoring Brian Westbrook. (Is this some organizational feud with Westbrook, who held out this offseason and has said he might leave next year?) Philly's defense shut down LaDainian Tomlinson but the secondary has not improved from its breakdown against Dallas. The Broncos stomped them for 49 points, scoring big early and late.

Whom do you root for, or against in this case? If you can't bring yourself to root in some way, which team's misfortune will give you the most pleasure?

I think the Eagles will win. They've got problems, but they're still the better team.

Update: My schadenfreude cup is overflowing. The Eagles have announced that Terrell Owens will not play Sunday night for "conduct detrimental to the team." The conduct in question is an interview with ESPN -- another one!? -- where he slammed the Eagles' front office and QB Donovan McNabb.

Think there is any love between the Eagles' brass and the folks in Bristol, Connecticut? Every time T.O. feels slighted, he runs to ESPN. And they gladly give him a forum to go toddler on us all. Last night, the first eight minutes of the evening ESPNews broadcasts were devoted to the T.O. "controversy." I'm sure that's the most pressing item you wanted to follow in the sports world.

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I also think the Eagles will win-Despite hating them we have to admit they’ve shown some toughness the past few years, and Reid seems to be a good coach. And that’s why I think I’ll root for Wash.-in the long run they seem to be less of a threat, I think they’ll gradually fade away, so let’s slap another loss on the Eagles! Either way is good for us. And, what a perfect time for the bye! It always seemed we had one of those worthless early byes. Earlier I wrote once that I was afraid the Cowboys would fade down the stretch, being such a young team (esp. on def.) Now I don’t think so, because this week off is perfect to refocus.

by larry on Nov 5, 2005 12:24 AM CST reply actions  

How about Wash. wins but knocks owens and/or mbnabb out for the year?

by larry on Nov 5, 2005 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

Schadenfreude? Gesundheit!

I always root for the skins to lose even if I preferred they win. It’s genetic.

by StarStruck on Nov 5, 2005 1:41 AM CST reply actions  

Gentemen,

Philly wins. Shut up.

by AlanTdot on Nov 5, 2005 3:35 AM CST reply actions  

Raf,

noworries about the skins passing on 70% of their plays??
Who on wash will stop the pass?

Lary,

The skins already have a divisional win against us AT HOME! we want Philly to win!!

by AlanTdot on Nov 5, 2005 3:59 AM CST reply actions  

die Vogelschar – Zehn
die Indianerin – drei

by GermanyCowboysFan on Nov 5, 2005 5:46 AM CST reply actions  

We need the skins to lose a little more then the birds. The birds have so many troubles that they are going down anyway. That and I don’t want them desperate when they play us.
A nice nasty injury laden close win for the birds- so they will be all beaten up even more and tired for us. Then we put them away. At that point we can pretty much concentrate on catching the giants.

by Burmafrd on Nov 5, 2005 6:56 AM CST reply actions  

10-3 Eagles, huh, GCF? Too low, but it would make for entertaining theatre of futility. I’ll buy it.

Rafael…wow. Talking about obscure references! Well, I will take pleasure out of seeing both struggle.

While the Skins do have the game in hand, they are not as dangeroous and are just getting into the difficult part of their schedule. Eagles need to be hammered into submission. They’ve been 5-3 twice during the past four years, yet won the division each time.

Go Rea9ef9uah dda……can’t do it! Go Eagkjlg;a …dang it. Flufernutter!

Ich genieße zu sehen, daß alle sie leiden.

by Fighter15 on Nov 5, 2005 7:23 AM CST reply actions  

In case ya’ll didn’t know…

The NFL Superbowl Collection- The Dallas Cowboys DVD set will be released on Tuesday, Nov. 8.

It’s a collection of highlights and stuff from their five Superbowl victories. If anything, it’s something to watch while we eagerly await the Monday night game against the eagles!

And also, if ya’ll still haven’t grabbed the Cowboys’ complete history DVD set, you’re missing out. It’s awesome, plus it has the complete ’92 NFC Championship game as well.

by rich on Nov 5, 2005 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

I hate the fleagles but they will win. My only reason for watching is to see how many fleagles they can put on IR. I will cheering for Lavar Arrington to blitz untouched just once!
Our bye week came at just the right time. We are nicked up and need a litle R&R.
I’m crossing my fingers, not caring who wins and hoping Washington blitzes on every down.

by gman on Nov 5, 2005 9:23 AM CST reply actions  

I’ll root for the 49ers and for the Wash D to lay a few good hits on McNabb and Owens (except his mouth, keep that one intact, it’s doing a beautiful job). I honestly believe the Giants are going to be the biggest rivals for the Cowboys at the end of the season. I see absolutely nothing good about Reid, nor Gibbs that scares me.

I think Dallas’ biggest problems are the Broncos, Panthers, Kansas and Giants in the 2nd half of the season, Detroit and St Louis should be wins and then Wash and Philly are games we have to win somehow.

by ManTab on Nov 5, 2005 10:07 AM CST reply actions  

If the season were to end with the Skins and the Boys in a tie they would win the tiebreaker. That said I can’t root for either team. Lets just hope they beat each otherâ€â"¢s brains in.
Note: Do not assume the Giants have a cakewalk. SF has a good Defense, Manning is looking good but still learning, and the trip from the east coast to the west coast can ware on you.

by Randy on Nov 5, 2005 10:14 AM CST reply actions  

Eagles by 14. The Skins are frauds, and they’ll be lucky to go 2-6 on the back half of the season.

by AN on Nov 5, 2005 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

I’ve been going back and forth on this one. On the one hand, Washington currently owns a win over us, which could affect tie-breakers. On the other hand, I consider Philadelphia the more dangerous team, and a win here could trigger a winning streak, as happened for them last year after some early losses.

Then, it came to me. The Solomon Solution — cut the baby in half! [No, not a tie!] Let the Redskins win this one at home, and the Eagles can win their rematch. There! Everybody loses. There is also the added benefit of depressing the Eagles psyche even further than it already is. With all the Owens shenanigans and injuries to key players, the Eagles could disintegrate before our eyes. That would be a great thing to behold. Just so long as they recover enough to beat the Redskins when they meet them again.

by Mr. Bill on Nov 5, 2005 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

TO is out this week because REID BENCHED HIM. Redskins will win running all over the Eagles. Santana Moss gets into the act as well.

I don’t ever recall a West Coast offense that was successful without a running game. I mean the original in SF had Roger Craig. Mike Holmgrem certainly has had his share. I don’t understand why the Eagles think they can win passing the ball. This ain’t west coast it is more like Dan Fouts meets Run N Shoot……..without the RUn………only difference is McNabb ain’t no Danny Boy! Although TO is sounding sort of like a Winslow. Senior that is……..LOL.

Levar is back and will make people wonder if Frank Thomas has the wrong nickname as he knocks out McNabb for the rest of the season and McNabb decides to go ahead and get that hernia thing worked on.

Dallas Rolls the Eagles on a Monday night in Philly and typical turncoat Philly fans BOOO their own Eagles.

Giants have a let down and Dallas is in solo first place………or the Driver’s Seat.

I do see the division as NYG and Dallas the rest of the way. Many have pointed out the weakness of the Redskins and their fortunate early schedule………but the Ealges are also on the slide down. Better team only in reputation. Their mystique in coverage is gone………their blitz is getting picked up……….they don’t run………they put their defense on the field way too long………and they look deflated in the first quarter. This is a team suffering a hangover of a whole lot of offseasons with no Super Bowl. You go that far that many years………well you better win one Boys cuz you never know when you will get back…………see Minnesota and Buffalo they might be able to offer good shrinks to all you Eagles fans. LOL!

Having the Philly Fanatics fail is almost as good as having our boys improve. Rafael keep pointing to our 91, 92 years of rebuilding……..but that Philly game back then……….and these two may well mark different paths for two Franchises…………..and I don’t think I have to tell anybody on this blog which direction the Cowboys are heading!

by Jon on Nov 5, 2005 11:51 AM CST reply actions  

TO suspended. This will do 1 of 2 things for the Eagles:

  1. (most likely) – the implosion continues. He was the x-factor that took them to the Super Bowl last year, and he is the one to take down an entire franchise. He has been totally rotten for that team this year, but, lets face it, he is an incredible talent. He is instrumental in the Eagles success. Without him, they are toast.
  1. - without the distraction, the team focuses on the football field, and is able to put the whole TO mess behind it. They do still have a ton of talent, and if they are able to keep McNabb upright and start running the football, they are able to turn this season around.

by BlueCheese on Nov 5, 2005 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

MCflabb is not physically capable of running around like he did before. Unless they suddenly discover a running game they are toast. Who do they have besides to to catch the ball? Westbrook is a RB, not a WR.
Though NOW Westbrook becomes even more important then ever- If I was him I would have my agent put the hammer down NOW as regards a new deal.
Even if they play better they have too many holes to e anywhere near where they were last year.

by Burmafrd on Nov 5, 2005 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

I hope the skins win ’cause i think they will fall by the wayside anyway. We want the beagles to lose as many as possible ya know. As to the TO thing. I had a conversation with bigjim on this site this summer while the whole " will TO be traded" thing was happening and was saying how sweet that would be and he responded poetically" TO will stay with philly. But ericp, when we beat ’em this year, would you want it any other way?" Well Im glad he was on the field doing NOTHING when we slapped those guys around last month, but Im glad theyre benching him. Hes an idiot. And his crying and negativity has, in my opinion, hurt them as much as hes helped them. Id almost like to see them win without him( I stress almost- we dont want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here). Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch of birds!

by ericp on Nov 5, 2005 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

The Eagles could be more dangerous with McMahon throwing to Reggie Brown and Reno Mahe running behind Josh Parry.
Westbrook is useless as a runner.
Now I remember why I forgot about Detmer, who wouldn’t help either.
The Redskins defence last week in New York appeared to be trying not to tackle, but Washington has fewer overwhelming flaws, and Redskins will win.
Gibbs should start Jason Campbell.

by Lee on Nov 5, 2005 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

I think the Skins will win. Too many booboos on the Iggles squad.

by Cash on Nov 5, 2005 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

TO will go play for Atlanta next year. Mora Jr. likes him and respects his workout. The owner of the Falcons will make his contract rich in TDs and off field behavior.

Unfortunately it will work and Mike Vick to TO will be the WR Vick needs to stay put in the pocket and throw to a guy with as much AA as he has.

TO will be a different guy cuz he will realize he is wearing out his welcome everywhere and he wants to win. He will have the kind of rejuvenation KJ experienced playing for Bill Parcells after all the Gruden mess.

I guess Atlanta gives up a WR on staff or a draft pick or two. Although I doubt Mora gives up a number one.

by Jon on Nov 5, 2005 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

That’s interesting Jon. Is that your own speculation or is it based in something you’ve heard? Or, are you being facetious? If true, Vick had better become a passing QB in order to feed that mouth. I sort of like the Falcons and I hope â€Å"TgO” doesn’t go there and ruin that team, but it strikes me as a good fit—until Vick gets hurt, that is. Will T.O. be such a good fit with Schaub? One would think so considering Matt would probably be a very pocket-oriented, accurate passer but who can tell with that knucklehead?

by StarStruck on Nov 5, 2005 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

Mora Sr said on FoxSports he could see TO playing for Jim Jr. He thinks they respect each other but wonders how much Damage TO has done to his reputation. Jim Jr. and TO used to workout together some also……..Jr was a defensive coach and respected TO a lot. According to Sr……..they still talk after TO left the team and Jr. has said he was the best football player on the team in SF. If that is the case, why wouldn’t he want him. You give him a knucklehead contract…….pay him for TDs and yards with incentives……..and fine him for running his mouth.

Arthur Blank has a hothead in Tony Stewart for a driver. He signs the checks and he will Put TO on Notice. You don’t get paid if you don’t play and you don’t play if you are suspended. Arthur Blank can write a check as big as he wants for anything he wants……..if he and Jr. want TO they can afford him.

I told you I like Schaub, I just don’t see him surpassing Vick. Regardless of Vicks numbers his W-L record is too good. He is the best athelete on the field. The Day Mike Vick decides to kill us all with his ARM instead of his LEGs…….it will be a long season for anybody facing the guy. He has a cannon and if he just developed some touch passes……a bit more accuracy……..he lights it up. He also happens to play QB, Marcus is actually a better passer but is determined to throw it Michael does not seem to be so inclined. Still I remember Vick lighting it up ……………Crumpler and TO would have a passing attack you gotta respect………you add a healthy Dunn and Duckett and their offense would be explosive. They basically win now based on Defense and ball control. One thing about Mike Vick he is pretty good at getting first downs. Atlanta has a good pretty young defense and the only X Factor is always Vicks health. Your point about Schaub is also in the back of there minds………Vick goes down we still got Matt tossing to TO.

Mostly just speculation, but I can see Arthur Blank and Jim Mora Jr. taking a chance on TO. Jim Sr said regardless of what you think of TO has he ever not played to full speed like say a Randy Moss. TO is the best WR on the field………he is just a boil in the locker room. Ask Mooch, or Jeff Garcia or Andy and Donovan………they all might say to hech with him.

Another option could be Mariucci dealing Roy Williams or Mike Williams to Philly for him, but I see those guys as the young Randy and KJ……why get rid of that youth…….all they need is some protection and a QB named something besides Harrington or Garcia……..they might also be in the Phillip Rivers sweepstakes. Mariucci don’t won’t to get let go again. Personally watching some of Roy at Texas…….he can be much better in the NFL if he has a qb. I don’t know I think TO might have already Burnt that bridge.

One team that will not be in the HUNT for him is the Dallas Cowboys. Thankfully.

by Jon on Nov 5, 2005 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

Star,

you been to da Beach lately? I had to watch the last few games at Lendys and at Hometown Heroes on PA.

Not a bad crowd………Lendy’s is definitley more a Cowboys bar. Good wings too. He puts the Cowboys game on the new plasma screen which is cool.

I don’t think I am doing Fedex field………going to Charlotte instead for the Panthers Cowboys on Christmas Eve……….a little present to myself with a few of my friends………my girlfriend’s a little miffed about it but hey……..forgiveness is always easier than permission.

by Jon on Nov 5, 2005 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

Verba NEWS!! Verba was finally contacted by the Cowboys and was expecting to sign a nice contract. They brought him in to work out, and set him home immediately with a “no thank you”. I sas this on Fox Sports after reading a rumor at prosportsdaily that he was already offered a contract. I guess that counts him out.

by J on Nov 5, 2005 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

Actually TO has reportedly been suspended indefinately…..what an idiot!

by sharkz on Nov 5, 2005 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

George Allen was so long ago. Buddy Ryan was more recent. As much as I hated pig snouts, I hated the Philly fans chearing Irvin’s injury more. Gibbs is a class guy, coaching the enemy. As much as I hate it, just this once, GO SKINS!

by cowboy bert on Nov 5, 2005 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

The Eagles have no running game at all to speak of and now,NO IDIOT, the Eagle reign is over, look for the Skins to do the same thing the Broncos did, and thats blitz every down. I think the Skins will be fired up after last weeks dismal showing in New York, I like the skins in this game.

by Derrick on Nov 5, 2005 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Gentlemen,
I know that it has been said before, many times in fact, but reading about JJ’s injury and and Fujita taking over for Singleton etc.: I CANNOT HELP BUT TO BE NAUSEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These MEDIOTS that claim to be proffessional journalists CONTINUE to recycle and regurgitate yesterday’s news, including their own columns. I stopped reading nickeatme on dc.com in the vain hopes of the others not copying his horrible habits: but I must admit that I was my own victim of wishful thinking.

Praise GOD for Rafael and this Blog. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by EyeamKurgan on Nov 5, 2005 9:22 PM CST reply actions  

I’m glad you’re Kurgan but chill dude. Did you really expect the mediots to be working this weekend? And as much I as like this blog, really!!!

I made a statement a couple of threads back that I really expected to get a rise. Cundiff is available to sign with the ’Boys after our suare in Philly.

I’ve heard the chicken littles out there (mediots first among them) proclaiming our young kicker as one of the main reasons why we won’t win the NFC East or as a major weakness…but just think of the Ace in the Hole that we have!

by Fighter15 on Nov 5, 2005 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

Fighter 15,

Cundiff is available, but is he ready? I’m not a fan of going into the stretch drive with a rookie kicker, especially one with one game’s worth of experience.

by Rafael Vela on Nov 5, 2005 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

Jon

No, I haven’t been to the beach lately. I don’t know why really, just haven’t made it that far from the house and time keeps on slippin’, slippin’ slippin’…sorry. I was hoping I might get there at some point in the season, stick my head in Lendyâ€â"¢s and give you a shout, but it’s half over already! I’m not sure when or even if it’s going to happen. Enjoy Charlotte! And good luck with the girlfriend.

Oh, and your question about Canty’s eye surgery? Hometown doctor.

I realize Schaub will likely unseat Vick only by injury, but that possibility isn’t so remote. The question with Tee-gO is can anyone afford to risk big math on bad chemistry? Where ever he goes, he needs to learn some tact or his talent won’t amount to much. Then, like Thiesman, we’ll have to suffer his stupidity among the legions of mediots. Didn’t Mariucci and T.gO. once have some confrontation on the sidelines during a game? I didn’t think those guys were on such friendly terms. Whatever, the prospect of him going to Atlanta is nevertheless intriguing.

by StarStruck on Nov 5, 2005 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

Don’t be surprised at all if Al Davis dosn’t try to work some magic in the off-season-I think he’s ALREADY salivating at having Moss AND Owens lining up for his team to “stretch the field, baby” He’d love to hit one more home-run with a cast-off just like the old days, except TO isn’t past his prime like so many others of his guys were…But I have no idea about the Rdr’s cap situation-they sure don’t have a lot to offer in trade

by larry on Nov 5, 2005 11:49 PM CST reply actions  

Larry-I don’t see how Al Davis could afford both those guys. If he paid those 2 he would have 3rd tier players at every other position on the field. Let alone the combustible nature of those two. One would go off then the other would try to be a bigger jerk to get the attention. Raider fans would love it but I think it would be pretty easy to defend since they couldn’t afford to balance the offence or protect the QB long enough to get the ball off. If they threw short passes TO/MOss would get drilled contantly. The QB wouldn’t have time to get the ball downfield due to lack of quality O-line..

by Sean on Nov 6, 2005 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

Question for guys outside DFW. On the Burger King commercials with the King imposed over the player, are they running the Quincy TD pass to the King in Detroit or do they have variations for all the different team’s MSAs?

by Sean on Nov 6, 2005 1:14 AM CST reply actions  

Sean,

In Wisconsin, its Q to the king.

by BlueCheese on Nov 6, 2005 1:25 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks BlueCheese

by Sean on Nov 6, 2005 1:32 AM CST reply actions  

I always thought it was the Deion interception (see the dance).

Rafael…a week or so ago, there was a brief mention that Cundiff has started working out again and should be ready. His settlement was for only for four or six games, thus he’s available to anyone right now, but the ‘Boys must wait an additional 4 or 6 weeks (I forgot which)…but the article basically said he’d be available to the Cowboys after week 10.

Given the need for a kicker by a few teams, it would seem that BP or Jerry has made contact and told him that they wanted him and he seems to be agreeable, otherwise he would have signed already.

Either way, the first struggles by Suisham will be his last and Cundiff will be our guy down the stretch…just a hunch.

by Fighter15 on Nov 6, 2005 7:45 AM CST reply actions  

Man,has T.O. got Turrets syndrome or what?

by shawn on Nov 6, 2005 7:56 AM CST reply actions  

Fighter,

I dont think any team can sign Cundiff until after week 10, because of his injury settlement, but I think that he will be brought back if he’s healthy. I was wondering what the rule was in regards to working out the kicker, do the Cowboys have to wait until after the Monday night Games to even work him out and or to sign him or can they being him in for a tryout to see how his leg has healed. I have no doubt that someone that works for the Cowboys organization has made some kind of off the campus arrangements to see him kick at some high school field to get a read on Cundiffs leg. He was perfect under 40 yards last year, which by the way was better than Adam Viniteri, so I think him coming back is a no brainer, I just cant see us going down the stretch with a rookie kicker at the helm.

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

Fighter-That is different than the one I was referring to. I only saw the interception one once or twice. This is clearly Quincy throwing a TD in Detroit.

by Sean on Nov 6, 2005 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

Hi Everybody!

So T.O….Oiler Troll is guessing that it is simply a matter of time before Owens becomes a Raider where his ego will mate with Moss’ creating a true “Black Hole” (Can’t you just see the flowers sent with notes – “Yo, TO, it’s me… Randy – I love you, Dawg”) at which point the stadium in Oakland will vanish and the crummy real estate that Lex Luther (aka Al Davis’ brother) bought next door in Berkeley will become valuable and have a publicly financed stadium built on it. Somehow Terri Hatcher will be there, but it is not certain as to why.

In return the Eagles will get Huggy-Bear’s kid, regretabbly better off.

Just a theory.

Oh, and somebody earlier said something about a Super Bowl Collection – Oiler Troll is not familiar with that term. What is that?

Oiler Troll also does not know where Bye is, what state it is in, or what kind of food they have there, but it does chap him that they get a team and Houston gets stuck with the Texans. Here’s to the Cowboys clobbering Bye this week.

OT

by Oiler Troll on Nov 6, 2005 9:07 AM CST reply actions  

Now, back to Raf’s original subject…………

Eaglets will win, but just barely. It will be an ugly game, but it will be fun to watch two hated rivals beat up on one another!

by onepaniolo on Nov 6, 2005 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

BTW, Cundiff will return to Dallas. He’s much better than anyone we’ve had since he was injured. The ’Skins just cut Nick Novack.

by onepaniolo on Nov 6, 2005 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

OT – I think they got the bye, good. It’s somewhere between So Long, NE and Adios, NM.

t.o. in Oakland…definite possibility. Did you see the quote from Bill about getting personnel advice from Elvis (Big Al) to check out guys for themselves if someone once saw something in them?? Nearly went to LA LA land.

Derrick, The Cowboys are definitely more restricted than other teams from resigning their own players with whom they have come to an injury settlement. They have to wait 4-6 weeks (I think it’s six) after the amount of time of the settlement. If the player is still injured, then he can negotiate for more, or try to sign with another team.

Makes sense, because then teams could use injury settlements like a non-permanent IR. Thus the rule that they must wait 6 weeks. A player would have to forfeit six weeks pay to go back to their original team.

Cundiff was originally expected to miss four to six weeks. I guess they agreed to four, if he’s now available to sign with the Cowboys after week 10.

Either way, he’s supposedly healthy, working out and unsigned by any other team. Now, could another team (say NE or IND), should their star kickers go down, coax him up there? Sure. So say your prayers that all kickers stay healthy for a couple of weeks.

Rafael – Are we gonna have a thread for our game against Bye? OT will provide play-by-play.

And Raul…anyway to make the darn advertisement stop flahing…it’s really annoying. I support the ads (you deserve the revenue), but please find another sponsor…or just make it stop flashing! Pretty please.

by Fighter15 on Nov 6, 2005 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

By the way, I never got my $50 :)

by Fighter15 on Nov 6, 2005 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

I personally want the Eagles to win because they play the Giants twice and I want them to be as good as they can for those games. The Giants have a soft remaining schedule if Philly doesn’t pick up their game. We might not be able to catch up to them if someone in their schedule doesn’t rise up and play better.

by Kevin on Nov 6, 2005 10:23 AM CST reply actions  

As a friend once told me, when two hated teams play each other, he roots for a 0-0 double overtime tie with lots of injuries. May it be so.

by Kevin on Nov 6, 2005 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

The 49ers are 6-0 in the last 6 games against the Giants.

Eli is 0-5 on the road so far.

Who’s gonna win? :D

by Foos on Nov 6, 2005 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

the 49ers are playing, who’s our Qb today, so I like the Giants big

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 10:57 AM CST reply actions  

Are you guys listening to what TO did? He got into a fist fight in the training room with Hugh Douglas,punched several other players trying to break up the fight,then went into the locker room and threatened McNabb and the rest of the players…………he’s DONE!!!!!

by sharkz on Nov 6, 2005 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Where did you hear that?

I did hear on ESPN that the most they can suspend t.o. is 4 weeks, with or without pay. Of course, they could pull a Keyshawn and just inactivate him for the remainder of the year or release him (doubtful due to salary cap).

by Fighter15 on Nov 6, 2005 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

Doesn’t matter GB just picked him up. WOW! That outta help the packers out.

by jose wasabe on Nov 6, 2005 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

Listening to the FOX pre-game show, Jimmy Johnson predicted that it will be the Indianapolis Colts against the Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl. Hmmmm…..rematch of SB 5.

by Joe on Nov 6, 2005 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

Packers picked up who? t.o.?

by Fighter15 on Nov 6, 2005 1:14 PM CST reply actions  

Fighter15-I think Joe is pulling your leg. There is no way that I can think of for TO to be on different team this year. Trade deadline passed several weeks ago.

by Sean on Nov 6, 2005 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

go T.O…punch Donovan in the mouth…..then get Kearse and then westbrook while you’re at it…..what an absolute idiot that guy is…

by ManTab on Nov 6, 2005 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

Morons. TO would have to be released, and that cannot happen on a weekend. It has to be run by the league office, which is closed untill monday. Somebody really is not all there.

by Burmafrd on Nov 6, 2005 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

Ahh Bullshirt. He ain’t a going nowhere. He is sitting in a hot tub right now counting his dollars.

I think they may try him out at Q-Back though.

by Ralph Nerosys on Nov 6, 2005 2:19 PM CST reply actions  

GermanCowboysFan,

Ahh… Eagles-ten
          Redskins-three

Traurig, bin ich langsam. Plus, weiß ich nicht, daß Deutscher und ich eine ÃÅ"bersetzung finden mußten.

I sure hope that says what I mean it to!

by StarStruck on Nov 6, 2005 2:19 PM CST reply actions  

FF I heard it on the FOX pre-game show

by sharkz on Nov 6, 2005 2:19 PM CST reply actions  

What kind of handle is Bumfard. Sounds a lot like Bum Fart. Or maybe that what you smell like to others.

Good luck with your sex change operattion this week. Hopefully when they add a pecker, you will finally feel complete.

by Shane Stenson on Nov 6, 2005 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

Shane sounds like someone that gets bent over a table a lot.
Do you have to wear Depends now?

by Burmafrd on Nov 6, 2005 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

NFL Europe? What a source. IF you notice, this is not on any of the games, or on ESPN, or CNN/SI, or anywhere else. So if gays like shane believe it, it must be true.

by Burmafrd on Nov 6, 2005 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

I am truly amazed that you immediately go to gay as a comeback. I think any dimestore shrink can explain what that means.

Good luck with that.

As for bending over a table…only to cram it in your mothers a..h…!

by Shane Stenson on Nov 6, 2005 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

I see somw bats have gotten out of their cages!!!!

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

Calm down, folks. Some 12 year old troll going by Shane and a bunch of
other names is having fun, now that his mommy has gone
shopping. Never fear, he’ll be gone for good soon.

Resume your regularly scheduled thread.

by Rafael Vela on Nov 6, 2005 4:30 PM CST reply actions  

Quincy Morgan siting! Running back kickoffs for Pittsburgh.

Anyone want him back?

by Fighter15 on Nov 6, 2005 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

I can’t wait till tonights Washington-Philly game,you know they are gonna be talking about TO…lol I would be shocked if he is allowed back!

by sharkz on Nov 6, 2005 5:28 PM CST reply actions  

here they go!

Schadenfreude!

by Foos on Nov 6, 2005 7:41 PM CST reply actions  

Personally … I root for INJURIES … as many as they could possibly inflict on one another … GO DOCTORS!! Can I get a horse collar?? How ‘bout a couple of them high ankle sprains … too bad TO is benched and cant get himself a shiny new break in his collar bone … Can’t stand either team or organization … so let the blood, gauze, and season enders flow boys!!!!

LOL

by Will in Idaho (yeah ... Idaho) on Nov 6, 2005 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

I hate the Eagles,Redskins, giants and the 49ers, but I would NEVER root for a players injury or to have his seaon or career end because of an injury, anyone who would, is not a fan in my opinion. I’d rather beat those teams with all their players healthy and on the field, then they would have no excuse for their loss.
T.O is a cancer on a team, and I give Andy Ried and the Eagle organization alot of credit for putting up with this child for as long as they have and when a players antics overshadow the players talent and ability on and off the field, its time for him to go. Its funny, you dont seem to hear anything from Drew Rosenhous anymore, why is that,huh????

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 8:33 PM CST reply actions  

The beagles aren’t gonna release TO during the season. Their worst nightmare would be for him to be picked up by someone they have to play. The best thing for them is let him cool his clueless a$$ for the rest of the year, run his mouth, and cut him in the offseason. They’ve got plenty of cap room to do whatever they want.

by NYGiant Hater on Nov 6, 2005 9:24 PM CST reply actions  

Derrick,

Why are you giving the fleagles organization and Andy Reid any credit for the TO situation. EVERYONE knew exactly what would happen before they signed him. Now he’s doing it. DUH. They’re getting exactly what they deserve. I actually have a little pity for him. He is so stupid he can’t stop himself. I had a dog like that once.

by NYGiant Hater on Nov 6, 2005 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

I hope the Eagles wait until the day before he is due his 7 mil roster bonus in March, and then say seeya, wouldn’t want to be ya.
If this clown thinks he gonna get a bigtime contract after what went on this year, he has a serious mental problem.

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

Let’s not forget one thing about the T.O. situation. He’s got a valid contract. All this sabre rattling, name calling and now punch throwing is prodded by Drew Rosenhaus, his agent.

I can imagine if the Eagles cut him free he’ll have to take an incentive laden deal elsewhere. As physically talented as he is, he ain’t young, thought his brain seems about 3. He’s going to lose money — a LOT of money on this one.

Wonder if ESPN will profile Rosenhaus and what a loon he is then? They were supine before him when he stole T.O. this past summer.

by Rafael Vela on Nov 6, 2005 9:49 PM CST reply actions  

wow, there NYGiant hater. I never said they didn’t know what they were getting into with him when they signed him, I give them credit for putting up with his antics as long as they had, I would of suspended T.O after the nonsense that went on in training camp, but they gave him all the rope he needed to hang himself and thats what he did. I hope T.O ends up like Sprewell in the NBA, out of the league next year and wondering how he going to feed his family and wishing that he had kept his big mouth shut.

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe what we should hope for is that the other three division teams each find they own one of the other two, but can’t beat the remaining team no matter what. For instance, Philly could own NY, who could own Washington, who could own Philly. Everybody picks up two wins and two losses, and Dallas gets whatever they get playing straight up, like maybe 4-2 or 5-1 against the bunch. That ought to be enough to win the division, and keep each of the others upset about having a team they can’t beat besides Dallas.

by cowboy bert on Nov 6, 2005 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

and… REDSKINS WIN

by Foos on Nov 6, 2005 10:36 PM CST reply actions  

yup, and what will the talk be about all week, when and if, will the Cancer return?

by Derrick on Nov 6, 2005 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

Watching McNabb and Eli in yesterday’s games they throw balls into the ground when their man is wide open. Not impressive. Eli picks up his first win on the road. Good prcatice with 4 0f last 6 away. We can pound Philly Mon night rest up against Det. and get into Thanksgiving 7-3.

by Don Y on Nov 7, 2005 8:22 AM CST reply actions  

Rafael,

Letâ€â"¢s not forget one thing about the T.O. situation. Heâ€â"¢s got a valid contract. All this sabre rattling, name calling and now punch throwing is prodded by Drew Rosenhaus, his agent.

Exactly! That is because Rosenhaus is not gaining a nickel out of representing Owens, since that valid contract was negotiated by another agent. Rosenhaus gets nothing until Owens receives a new one. So, it is not really surprising that Rosenhaus has encouraged Owens to act like a jerk in order to force the Eagles to release him. Of course, acting like a jerk comes naturally to Owens. He takes to it like a hog to slop.

by Mr. Bill on Nov 7, 2005 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

da Raiders could well take TO……but if Andy Reid cannot handle him don’t look for Norv turner to be the disciplinarian.

Actually I would think it would be a guy like Gruden, Mora Jr. , or maybe even Martz down in Houston if that happens next year……..either way he will be out of the NFC East and the Eagles will be on their way to a cellar dweller. LOL.

Vick and TO would be an interesting pair, but the more he runs his mouth the worse he is going as far as value. I don’t know if he will get that big contract he wants now, I think a team is only going to offer him a year or two……..the guy is an over 30 wr……even if he is as good as any in the league………who would offer him 5 years or more?

by Jon on Nov 7, 2005 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

Could TO be signed by the cowboys?

Parcells has been willling in the past to deal with bad players that produce on the field. although recently he said he doesn’t want any thugs. I think he also said there are different rules for players according to their performance.

and JJ always likes excitement. Plus TO could get us to the super bowl.

as long as he signs for cheap, with verbiage that allows the cowboys to cut him for any reason and recoup the costs, and apologizes for the star thing, i would be fine if he signed with the cowboys.

by TO's Agent on Nov 7, 2005 6:04 PM CST reply actions  

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