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Karmic Boomerang Drops Philly 21-20

Logic fails me. The ability to create a coherent narrative fails me. All I have are some crazy coincidences that seem to blend together:

-- Dallas just got repaid for its late meltdowns against the Redskins and Seahawks, scoring 14 points in a 1:01 span. Actually it's shorter, but the Cowboys took the ball with 3:44 to play, drove for a TD that was set up by some inspired Marion Barber plays. The first was a winding, 30 yard run through the Eagles secondary where the rookie maintained his top priority -- getting out of bounds. Starting at the right hash mark, Barber darted ten yards up the field, cut towards the left yard markers, ran ten yards farther upfield then settled behind a Peerless Price block for ten more yards before stepping out of bounds on the Eagles' 20.

On the next play Barber picked up an inside blitz, allowing Drew Bledsoe to float a TD pass to Glenn in the right corner of the end zone.

On second and eight on the following drive, Donovan McNabb threw an out when his receiver was running an up. Roy Williams took the biggest gift since Larry Brown's Super-Bowl-30- winning pick and ran for the winning score. The clock read 2:43.

-- Roy Williams was repaid for his breakdowns in that same Washington game. He had radar sighting on the ball. And for once this year, the ball stuck to his frequently abrasive hands.

-- Bill Parcells continues his streak of improbable wins on Monday night. In 2003 a botched Giants kickoff helped Dallas score a tying field goal at the gun. The Cowboys won in overtime. Last year a perfect onsides kick led to the second of two late TDs as Dallas rallied for a crazy 43-39 win. Now, the Cowboys go from lifeless and lost at the 3:44 mark to top of the division at the gun. If the Cowboys keep doing this are they really lucky?

Don't answer that.

-- Why's crying now? The Giants are smarting after losing a game they should have won going away. Their coach went ballistic in the post game, railing against his players' lack of focus. The Redskins lose a painful one by being offsides on an extra point. Now, the Eagles drop one in which Andy Reid and Jim Johnson game plan beautifully.

Hey, I'm not throwing this one back.

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A “W” is a “W” no matter how you get it. We’ll take it going away. The old cliche of “better to be lucky than good” was the theme for tonight’s game.

by Digger O'Dell on Nov 15, 2005 12:05 AM CST reply actions  

One thing I have to point out to you Raf. That beautiful blocking downfield on Barber’s run was KJ inside, and Peerless downfield and outside, not Glenn. That is how good WRs do their job when not getting the ball.

by bluecheese on Nov 15, 2005 12:12 AM CST reply actions  

Okay, I haven’t had a chance to watch the tape. I knew the outside guy had an 8 on his jersey.

by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2005 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

I almost went to bed after the Philly FG after the shovel pass (I told myself if they got seven I was going to bed, but the FG made me want to stay up). I am so glad that I decided to stick it out.

Poke

by Poke on Nov 15, 2005 12:15 AM CST reply actions  

This win won’t make it to a beauty contest, that’s really what Bill Parcells got in this though day, but a W is a W.

What might make it to a beauty contest is the site, hadn’t come here since last night, good work, guys.

by Chandus on Nov 15, 2005 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

Next up-2 home games. BP has plenty of poor play to “motivate” his players with if he will. He seemed a little soft during the interview post-game. Not a good time to lighten up on them.

by Sean on Nov 15, 2005 12:23 AM CST reply actions  

It was hillarious when on the NFL channel they said McNabb looked like Fred Sanford whe nhe walked gingerly from the podium. He was slow, bent over, and gimpy. I have a lot of respect for him but as long as he doesn’t wear a Star I love to see him hurt and off the field.

by Sean on Nov 15, 2005 12:27 AM CST reply actions  

Next Burger King commercial has the King intercepting McNabb and running it back for a touchdown.

by Sean on Nov 15, 2005 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

You know, living in Central PA where there are Eagles fans made this one so sweet;) Thank God my one friend was beside me to make sure I was ok.

by Mike on Nov 15, 2005 12:35 AM CST reply actions  

The cardiac Cowboys strike again. I don’t really know how much more of this heart pounding games I can tolerate. Despite the lackluster showing of the offense and the not so good game by the defense, this team showed a lot of heart by hanging in and pulling out such an improbable win.

by Joe on Nov 15, 2005 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, McNabb really is pretty classy, but I still hate him because he is an Eagle. Anyone ever notice that he never said anything bad about TO, even after all the crap TO shot at him? He has taken the high road all along. He is mature, and a man, unlike TO, and even Michael “you can’t criticize me” Vick

BTW,a love the site.

by bluecheese on Nov 15, 2005 12:37 AM CST reply actions  

And lets see some of the guys in the previous board said that the conservative play calling is killing us, well Bledsoe did tried in the 1st half a nother long pass that fell short of Glenn, would’ve been a 43 yard TD pass. And then in the 4th Qtr tried a 67 yarder again to Glenn, but this time Bledsoe threw it too long. Had both been completions the score wouldn’t had been as close and Bledsoe ’d have ended with 300+ yards.

by Chandus on Nov 15, 2005 12:40 AM CST reply actions  

Did we have any injuries today?

by bluecheese on Nov 15, 2005 12:44 AM CST reply actions  

i miss the old interface of the web site. is there any way you can bring the old web site back?

by problem child on Nov 15, 2005 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

What a victory for the Cowboys! After those three heartbreaking losses to the Skins, Raiders and Seahawks, it was nice to have a comeback win like this one.

We’re in first place and have two games coming up at home. Denver will be tough, but they’re not at Mile High, so we certainly have the edge there, and the Lions suck on the road too.

We can create a cushion with these home games. Wow! I’m still shocked and thrilled about this victory, especially coming in such a nasty place to play, like the Linc!

This is a most defining win for the Cowboys!

I hope Anthony Henry is well enough to play on Sunday, and I really think Julius needs to start, and be in the backfield to close out games. Barber’s fumble at the end was scary! Good thing it bounced back to him!

I think Don Parcells had a hand in this one. My heartfelt condolences go out to Bill and his family.

How ’Bout Dem Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!

by onepaniolo on Nov 15, 2005 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

bluecheese:

No reported major injuries tonite. I’m sure we’ll know more in a couple of days plus the status of Anthony Henry for next game.

by Joe on Nov 15, 2005 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

ROY is THE MAN!!

This victory is one of the best I can recall in ages. As much as I used to love seeing our second stringers getting some PT in the 4th Quarter back in the glory days of the early 90’s (and being able to have a full 15 minutes to enjoy our win), I have to say I like winning this way just as much. Especially against the defending NFC Champs. I am sure the players for the Falcons, Panthers, Bucs, Giants, Bears, and even Seahawks saw this performance tonight and realize that even if the Boys play bad for 56 minutes we are still fully capable of pulling it out at the end. They know they are going to face a tough team who never gives up and is used to clawing their way to victory.

With Detroit up next, and Denver at home on Thanksgiving, I am more confident than ever we will win this division.

I feel it. We are going to shock a lot of people.

by Sterling on Nov 15, 2005 1:00 AM CST reply actions  

did i hear the beagles fan booing mcnabb?

if mcnabb was that hurt he should have stayed off the field on that series…….is that what these same fans that booed his selection cuz they wanted Ricky Williams are cheering for.

Get used to these words Eagles…….sometimes you get what you wish for!!! You wanted TO you got him………welcome to last place in the NFC EAST EAGLES!!!!!!

by Jon on Nov 15, 2005 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

Raf,

How are you at a loss for words?

Big Jim told you we would sweep the Eagles!
I got home tonight with 6 minutes left in the game (sorry I took so long).

by Big Jim on Nov 15, 2005 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

Stat wise, it doesn’t look pretty at all for the Cowboys in this game. But one that is a pleasant surprise is that the penalties are way down. Only 4 in the last two games.

by Joe on Nov 15, 2005 1:24 AM CST reply actions  

Dat Nguyenâ€â"¢s contribution canâ€â"¢t be underestimated: Recognizing the shovel pass formation on third and goal, making the call in time to shut it down and force the field goal, saving an invaluable four points—a pendulum swinging, game winning four points. If not for that heads-up call, the game is out of reach. Kudos to Madden for catching it at the time too, I thought it was just another senior moment but it wasnâ€â"¢t.

by StarStruck on Nov 15, 2005 1:37 AM CST reply actions  

I just watched the post-game interview with Drew Bledsoe. With all due respect to the last several Cowboys QB’s, I just want to say how happy I am to listen to a Quarterback who is a REAL MAN…who doesn’t make excuses for his mistakes, and who doesn’t overplay any particular victory. He has been to the Super Bowl before and came up short…the second opportunity he got there he lost the job to is understudy, then he lost it again in Buffalo, and as a result his career was in jeopardy. Maybe I can relate to him too much because we are the same age…but I sense the poise and maturity that he has gained in this league. He still makes mistakes, like every other QB in this league…but he seems to learn from them and then move on. No excuses.

At the beginning of the season a lot of people on this blog were calling him a has-been, a back-up, and a bus driver. Tonight’s pass to Terry Glenn with 4 minutes to go (for which Roy’s INT/TD would not have been the gamebreaker) showed that no matter what the score he can still remained poised and focused on guiding his team to victory. That’s what Championship teams are built on. The Quarterback has to set the tone for the rest of the team.

Contrast McNabb’s press conference after the game. Excuses.

This comeback is in the top six regular season comebacks
in Cowboys history. Roy sealed the deal…but Bledsoe put us in position to win it. Still he doesn’t brag about it.

by Sterling on Nov 15, 2005 1:37 AM CST reply actions  

My prediction for the rest of the season is that Dallas wins the division but has to wait another year for the “Big Dance.”

week 10
6-3 Cowboys
6-3 Giants
5-4 Redskins
4-5 Eagles

week 11
7-3 Dallas over Detroit
7-3 Giants beat dying Eagles at home
6-4 Redskins beat Raiders at home
4-6 Eagles lose to Giants away

week 12
8-3 Dallas over Denver on Turkey Day
7-4 Redskins win at home over San D.
7-4 Giants lose to Seattle away
5-6 Philly wins at home over Packers

week 13
8-4 Giants win at home over Dallas
8-4 Dallas loses to NY on the road
7-5 Redskins fall to Rams away
5-7 Philly loses at home to Seattle

week 14
9-4 Giants wins at Philly
9-4 Dallas wins at home over KC
8-5 Redskins win in Arizona
5-8 Philly loses at home to NYG

week 15
10-4 Giants over KC at home
10-4 Dallas’ revenge in Washington
8-6 Redskins fail at home to Dallas
5-9 Philly loses to Rams away

week 16
10-5 Dallas loses away to Carolina
10-5 Giants lose to Skins away
9-6 Skins pick a win over NYG
6-9 Philly wins away at Arizona

week 17
11-5 Dallas wins at home over Rams
10-6 Giants lose to Raiders away
9-7 Skins lose away to Philly
7-9 Philly picks up one over Skins

Dallas wins NFC East at 11-5
Chicago wins North at 10-6
Carolina wins South at 12-4
Seattle wins West at 12-4

Giants gets a wild card at 10-6
Atlanta gets a wild card at 10-6

Round 1 of the Playoffs
Carolina and Seattle get a bye
Dallas beats Atlanta in Dallas
Giants beat Chicago in Chicago

Round 2 of the Playoffs
Carolina beats Dallas in Carolina
Seattle beats Giants in Seattle

NFC Championship Game
Seattle beats Carolina in Seattle

SuperBowl:
Indy beats Seattle

by Jay Jay on Nov 15, 2005 1:44 AM CST reply actions  

philly played their best game of the year and we still won. hey NFL guess what-WE’RE BACK!!!

by manster65 on Nov 15, 2005 1:51 AM CST reply actions  

I certainly was going to watch till the end, whatever happened, but thought the game was lost when Witten dropped a chance for a 1st down, after Bledsoe had overthrown Glenn. I was also happy Cowboys got 58 rushing yards, after seeing that Oakland, Kansas City, and San Diego had a total of only 63 yards(I think that’s what the graphic said) in their Eagles’ games.
The blocking on Barber’s TD looked good both times(when he slipped left and when he didn’t slip, right). Otherwise, the run blocking seem to have regressed. Petitti cleanly whiffed to allow Kearse to break up the receiver reverse. And Tucker completely lost Cole on an inside move on one of Bledsoe’s sacks.
If there were no Cowboy injuries, it was a good game.

by Lee on Nov 15, 2005 2:09 AM CST reply actions  

wonder if TO was sitting at home in Hotlanta wearing his #88 Cowboys Jersey and rooting for the Stars……..LOL……..either way it didn’t matter.

Wait til the Philly Fanatics turn on Reid, McNabb and the Defense this week and next and call for TO’s revival from that Grave they buried him in. The wheels are looking to fall off their wagon…….mcnabb will be lucky to play next week which unfortunately will favor the gmen……never root for the eagles but next week would be nice if they could bounce back for one week anyway…….lol!

by Jon on Nov 15, 2005 2:24 AM CST reply actions  

Hey Jay Jay, I really like your predictions for the rest of the year, but remember, once in the playoffs, anything can happen. We did not expect Dallas to beat the chargers and they did, there was also two or three other games that they were underdogs, but they won. Soooo I am still optomistic about the Cowboys run for the Superbowl.

by Tony on Nov 15, 2005 2:26 AM CST reply actions  

I really like this site, how many of you turned off your vcr’s? Boy Im glad I didn’t turn off mine. Will take a W like this anytime. I believe a game like this will do wonders for the team. Mark my words with a young and upcoming team, this could be the ending of the eagles dominance in the nfc, everyone mark your calendars. Love the new look of the site, keep it up…..

by hawaiian cowboy fan on Nov 15, 2005 4:19 AM CST reply actions  

What makes me even more sick is the fact that we should be and could be 9-0 (realistically) 7-2. The redskins game was a bitter pill to swallow, against the raiders 1st and goal on the 4 yard line, and 10 points we give up in similar fashion to the seahawks….Here’s wishing sean payton would open up the downfield passing or stretch the defenses a little more and unleash the offensive weapons we have.

Oh yeah, did i notice that pettit and tucker had pretty good games? I saw a few plays in the 4th quarter petitit was one-on-one with kearse, for the record I believe kearse had only two tackles?

Boys, its great to be alive.

Go Cowboys, here we come detroit….

by hawaiian cowboy fan on Nov 15, 2005 4:23 AM CST reply actions  

Interesting note from Ed Werder … it was fitting that Roy Williams got the pick and the game winning score. You see, Bill Parcells’ brother, Don, who he laid to rest earlier Monday afternoon, wore #31 when he played for Army.

I found out that Don’s last game in Philadelphia was an 11-8 win over Navy … and, yes, the losing QB for the Midshipmen was Roger Staubach.

More karma…

by Raul on Nov 15, 2005 6:03 AM CST reply actions  

Well it took a 60 yard field goal attempt, but finally an opposing kicker missed one. I believe it was the first field goal Akers has ever missed against the Cowboys. Perfect timing for both!

by Dave on Nov 15, 2005 6:21 AM CST reply actions  

when was the last time we won a game in which we deserved to lose (before this one),we were due. ALso when was the last time a kicker failed to convert a fg against us (before last nights failed 60 yarder)again we were due, we sure missed our share of fg`s and lost games we deserved to win so all i got to say is justice…oh and by the way whats with showing mcnabb`s mom all the time did`nt we get enough suffering from that blasted soup commercial.did`nt mind as much after the roy td.lol

by ken on Nov 15, 2005 6:31 AM CST reply actions  

I would like to what is wrong with Julius Jones. We could have used more of his speed last night. When he was in, he looked good even though the run blocking was bad all game long. The only time a hole was opened was for Barber on that draw play. Just think if Jones with his speed had that hole! Does anyone know if Jones is still hurt?

by Lambert on Nov 15, 2005 6:58 AM CST reply actions  

Lambert:
I completely agree. I believe that Jones would have been better on a lot of those plays especially when they went for the run when it was 3rd and 19. I will say that Marion Barber looked really good on the pass blocking. He saved Drew a lot in that game but, I still beleive that they should of played Jones more.

by Mikelly on Nov 15, 2005 7:05 AM CST reply actions  

Lambert,

I don’t think JJ was 100%. But Philly is very tough at home to run on. JJ should get his 20 touches against Detroit but, who knows? MBIII got a TD and did a great job of picking up blitzes, and continued to run with purpose.

JJ just needs to get into the groove I think. 20 Carries and he will torch the Lions.

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 7:15 AM CST reply actions  

It was a win and I agree — pretty or ugly, it doesn’t matter but, the offensive line couldn’t make holes for the running game or provide consistent protection for Bledsoe and the defensive line couldn’t stop the Eagle’s run game. Play that way again and Dallas may not end up with another ugly win.

Can anyone explain why the line play was so bad?

by Douglas on Nov 15, 2005 7:42 AM CST reply actions  

Hey Cowboy fans,

I said the other day I would take an ugly win by 1 point & I will take it.
Maybe we should say thanks to Don Parcells. Isn`t it strange that he wore # 31 when he played @ Army ! (SPOOKY). Well here we go lets see what happens next week with Detroit
( Trap Game)with Denver 4 days away !
Thats where Coaching comes in & who better than BP !!!
One thing football fans should have learned about the NFL over the last 3 years is NEVER turn off a Dallas Monday nighter !!!

by Jesse New York on Nov 15, 2005 8:09 AM CST reply actions  

Wade Roberts, I hope you’re out there.
I read your earlier comments on attending the game. I hope you stayed to the end, and I hope you got out undamaged and without being pelted by eggs. What was the collective gasp in the crowd like when Roy Williams picked off the pass and took it to the house??

by Jarhead on Nov 15, 2005 8:14 AM CST reply actions  

Anyone notice…the dreaded MNF graphic?
First they note Parcells is 74-0 when they lead in the 4th quarter by 14+ points during the Redskins game…then we all know what happened. Next is the Eagles, they were something like 34-0 when leading 10+ under Reid…and we all know what happened….just weird I thought.

by Phil on Nov 15, 2005 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

Douglas,

They ran into a good front seven at home. Remember, these guys held LaDainian Tomlinson to 19 yards rushing in their last home game. That didn’t alarm me. It was the dropped and missed passes that did. Bledsoe had Glenn open deep when the score was 7-7 midway through the second quarter and underthrew him. He had him open deep again early in the 4th and overthrew him. Then you have Jason Witten dropping sure catches and Bledsoe missing Keyshawn a couple of times when he was open on third down. THAT’s the stuff that had me scratching my head.

by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2005 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

OK, we have the inside track on winning the division, and that’s great.

But both our O-line and D-line took a major whipping for 4 quarters. Cause for concern?

Ugghhh….

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 8:30 AM CST reply actions  

The 123 post on the second half thread was the most revolting comment I have ever heard anywhere by anyone. Who is the guy and is there any chance he can be blocked? That was sickening. If this blog moves this direction, I am done.

by rha on Nov 15, 2005 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

Getting the win was great, but what the heck happened to the D-Line this game? We gave up a ton of rushing yards to a team that hasn’t been able to run the ball all year.

by Mike on Nov 15, 2005 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

Hmmm. I guess I didn’t see it that way.

I do remember the under thrown pass to Glenn on the deep go pattern up the left sideline, but I thought the poor pass was casued by a collapsing pocket. It looked like Bledsoe didn’t have room to step into the throw.

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

I’m with Mike. I’ve seen our O-line get whipped in a few games, but this was the first time where a team seemed to maul our D-line. What was up with that?

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

Philly’s rookie center looked pretty good from where I sat. I mean I don’t remember hearing anything from Glover all game. How big is that guy anyway? Geeez.

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

That was a thrilling, karma-packed win that is huge for this year’s team.

I’m not nearly as enthusiastic about the play of either line. This team was manhandled at the line of scrimmage. Tucker got schooled by a back up (Kalu was out) and Petitti was simply overmatched against Kearse.

I have to agree with you Rafael that the execution left a lot to be desired as well.

Granted, it’s only one game…and a game that we won. But this team has serious problems if they’re unable to improve the line play.

The Defense looked tired and lethargic. The line had no pressure, blitzes were few and ineffective.

I expected a better game from this team. Hopefully, it won’t go to their head and they’ll correct the problems. I think the lapse was more effort-driven than talent. Let’s hope so.

by Fighter15 on Nov 15, 2005 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with Fighter15. I hope that our failures on the line of scrimmage were caused by either lack of execution or effort and not by lack of talent or size.

Eagles seemed to do whatever they wanted on both sides of the ball.

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

The Good: Even without Henry, our DBs played a great game, limiting McNabb to 169 yards on 34 attempts, returning 1 Int for a TD, defending 14(!) passes and racking up 18 of our 62 tackles.

The Bad: Our O-Line was soundly beaten, generating no push, 58 yards rushing (2.4 per) and allowing 2 sacks.

The Ugly: Our D-Line and linebackers lost ground all day to the Eagles horrible running game, allowing 181 yards and a 5.0 average. Coming in, the Eagles had managed only 3.3 yards per carry, 3rd worst in the NFL. Where were our ILBs? Where were Glover and Fergusen?

But overall, the D kept us in it by bending not breaking, and now we are sitting pretty in the NFC East race.

Go Cowboys!

by Remnant on Nov 15, 2005 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

Remnant, good summary. I’m glad to win, but I can’t help but worry about our linebackers and O-line. Was Singleton that important to us?

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Phil,

I saw that graphic and thought that the jinx night be happenning again….

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 9:10 AM CST reply actions  

Fujita aint going to cut it as a strong side backer in the 3-4. We need a Joey Porter type out there or this D will not consistently stop the run.

by Rob on Nov 15, 2005 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

FLY COWBOYS FLY

ON THE ROAD TO VICTORY

FIGHT COWBOYS FIGHT

SCORE A BUNCH OF TOUCHDOWNS 1-2-3

ROY WILLIAMS – HITâ€â"¢EM LOW HITâ€â"¢EM HIGH – MAKE DONOVAN MCNABB CRY

AND WATCH OUR COWBOYS FLY

FLY COWBOYS FLY

ON THE ROAD TO VICTORY

C-O-W-B-O-Y-S

COWBOYS!!!!!

by PJ on Nov 15, 2005 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

Rob,

But we have consistently stopped the run. That is, until yesterday. Was our problem yesterday caused by Singleton’s injury?

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Sometimes after a bye you play well- and this time we didn’t. Maybe the guys thought that the birds were already done- or this whole thing with BP’s brother really got the whole team down?

by Burmafrd on Nov 15, 2005 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

As for my DT/ILB rant, let the numbers tell the story:

James 12 tackles, 1 sack, 2 PassDef
Glover 4 tackles
Shanle 3 tackles
Nguyen 2 tackles
Fergusen 2 tackles

Shanle, who started and played most downs, had just 3 tackles? That’s it? And where the heck was Fergusen? Sure, he was double-teamed at times, but that left someone else 1-on-1, yet almost no penetration.

Even Ware, who played well at times, failed to get to McNabb. Ellis about disappeared except for a sack (1 tackle).

So is it scheme? Lack of blitzing? Rust after 2 weeks? The Eagles O-Line waking up for the 1st time all year?

by Remnant on Nov 15, 2005 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

On the point about Bledsoe overthrowng Glenn on the deep ball in the 4th qtr: I’ve watched the tape and it looks like Glenn SLOWS down during his route when the ball is in the air. I think if he runs through it at full speed, it would be a td. If you have the game on tape, check the field level replay.

by crucel on Nov 15, 2005 9:50 AM CST reply actions  

HESITATES during his route would be more accurate I suppose.

by crucel on Nov 15, 2005 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

Another great game by Terrence Newman (Pro-Bowl, anyone?) — does anyone even throw his way this year?

I guess I underestimated the impact of Anthony Henry, though — the run defense looked lost without him shutting down the corner.

When will Demarcus Ware get another sack? It’s been a while…

by Lex on Nov 15, 2005 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

Whatever it is, let’s hope it’s an aberration.

That OL performance cannot persist if we have any Super Bowl aspirations. Drew looked like a tackling dummy. That bone-head Int definitely the result of a constant pounding.

And the D must…MUST play better. 20 pts/game is not acceptable. 340+ yards and 35 min of possession time aren’t gonna cut it either.

Domination starts, ends, and is determined by line play. And we were using 3 TE formations!

by Fighter15 on Nov 15, 2005 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

crucel-Glenn did slow just a bit when he turned to find the ball. Price had to slow down to catch his long ball as well.

I’m not happy with how long Bledsoe held the ball. He needs to get rid of the ball on time.

James had a great game-even put the finishing touch on McNabb.

by Sean on Nov 15, 2005 10:11 AM CST reply actions  

Speaking of Fajita, I remember several times the eagles running right past him on the left side. He couldn’t get off blocks, couldn’t contain on the outside, and couldn’t even find the ball on McNabb’s bootleg touchdown run. It was actually pretty comical watching him spin around trying to figure out what happened on that play. Westbrook’s touchdown run went right past him as well. Once I started screaming for the coaches to do something, I saw Burnett in there for what seemed like the rest of the game, so I guess they got my ESP message. :)

I hope its something they can fix, because I expected more from him. I was also surprised that we couldn’t take advantage of their new center. I kept waiting for Glover or Fergeson to make a big play, but they never did.

Still, a pretty exciting win. I’ll replay the last four minutes for my kids today (they went to bed at 7-7). Educating the next generation of cowboy fans is important. :)

Keith

by Keith Valentine on Nov 15, 2005 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

IF YOU GO TO THE EAGLES HOME PAGE YOU CAN LISTEN TO THEM CRYING LIKE A BUNCH OF B—-HES!!WAY TO GO COWBOYS, IM LOVIN IT

by manster65 on Nov 15, 2005 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

keith,

Nice point on Fujita. Burnett looked better against the run.

by EricR on Nov 15, 2005 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

The offence need to get their act together. We are 6-0 when we put up 14+ points.

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

Remnant,

The Boys were flat. Coming off the ball late. It was very difficult to match the emotions of the Eagles. Afterall, they had to have felt for their coach, and his loss. Plus they hadn’t played in over two weeks, and came out to a new, yet hostile environment. … In the end though, they were hanging in there. Besides Bledsoe’s INT, the Boys hung right in there with the Eagles (would have been 13-7). Glenn’s TD, gave them some light … I know I had the feeling, stop them and we have a shot here. … Not bad though for a bunch of younger, inexpierenced players on the road in November against a division rival, for their first times. They hung around long enough for something to happen. .. Luckily it did!!

by EricR on Nov 15, 2005 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Madcowboy,

Fujita was bad against the run. Burnett made a huge impact last night once he got in there. Things started to turn around. Singleton’s injury was obviously hurting them last night.

by EricR on Nov 15, 2005 10:50 AM CST reply actions  

The D-line was coming off the ball late. I would have to guess that McNabb did an excellent job changing his cadence. The crowd noise didn’t help either.

by EricR on Nov 15, 2005 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

EricR
That offence is not playing well.

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

then again a win is a win, we swept philly and were tied for first so i`ll take it.

by ken on Nov 15, 2005 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

This one is a tough one to commet on. Rafael is right about no logic can be used to explain nothing that happened last night.

One by one:

QB: Pressured all night long. Should’ve taken the sack instead of te stupi INT. Great pass to Glenn under heavy pressure) and great pass to price. he had another bad pass to KJ on a 3rd down almost intercepted. other than that he showed heart and played hard.

RB: Line wouldn’t let them do much, overall I think they’re both great players and as long as they stay motivated sharing the load, they’ll be great.

WR: We have the best WR group in the league. This groups has blocking like no other (KJ), speed that kills (PP, TG), incredible hands (KJ, PC), etc.

O-Line: At least we didn’t fumble a snap on this one, but Bledsoe was under constant pressure and we had no holes for the running game. These guys should pay Roy Williams’ lunch a dinner all week long.

Front 7: They ran all night long. The pressure on the QB was so – so. Give a lot of Credit to McNabb here, the guy is just very good even if we hate them.

Secondary: Except for the dumb penalty on Keith Davis and the blown coverage at the end that almost resulted in a completion that would’ve given Ackers a 40 yarder, this group played a good game. Henry was missed…..Roy, you’rethe man this week.

by ManTab on Nov 15, 2005 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

ManTab
We dont have the best WR group.

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

Guys just remember,last night was Philly’s “last stand”,they brought it all to beat us and win and stay in the playoff picture!That was their best shot! We took it and came out on top and slammed the coffin door shut on the Eagles playoff hopes!The better team(although rusty from the bye)won…..US!!!!

by sharkz on Nov 15, 2005 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

Sharkz
Philly isnt done yet only if the NY beats them. they still have two games with NY and one with Washington. Its still not looking good for Philly but they have a chance I hope they beat NY next week.
How do you guys think JJ looked?

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

aw: Yeah they still have a chance,maybe you’re right and they will win out or go on a 5 or 6 game winning streak against the NFC East….lol,but I doubt it!

by sharkz on Nov 15, 2005 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

Does anyone remember when Burnett came into the game for Fujita?

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

Fujita’s last tackle was at 5:22 left in the 2nd quarter and Burnett had his first in the 4th quarter (13:25). So Burnett came in somewhere in there.

by Remnant on Nov 15, 2005 11:45 AM CST reply actions  

AW,
I couldn’t tell anything about JJ last night, or MB for that matter.

IMO, neither RB had a chance. The Eagles defense was in our backfield all night. On most plays, I thought our RB’s were fortunate to avoid getting hurt, much less make it back to the line of scrimmage.

It seemed to be total defensive domination by the Eagles. I hope other people saw it differently.

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 11:52 AM CST reply actions  

Our average per carry has been low all season, though— why can’t this line run block? We’re the biggest (in terms of weight) in the NFL! You’d think they’d relish the opportunity to road-grade.

by Tim on Nov 15, 2005 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks Remnant. That makes sense.

The first time I remember seeing Burnett was in the fourth quarter. I hope to hear BP give him some praise today in the press conference. We really need a silver lining in the LB situation.

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

The Cowboys won inexplicable, which to me means that they are a good team. Good teams just win, end of story. However, if this is going to carry into the end of the season and the playoffs then the Cowboys are going to have to play better in the trenches. The O-line was terrible and the D-line seemed mediocre. That has to change. If and when it does, watch out.

by EM SLU on Nov 15, 2005 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

madcowboy
I would keep MB the starter. Its going to be hard for anyone to get off if they don’t get the ball enough. JJ had a nice run. The line pass protection was good Bledsoe had enough time on most of his drop backs. The whole offence wasn’t playing well. Witten dropped an easy pass that killed a drive.

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 12:03 PM CST reply actions  

AW,

Philly doesn’t have a division win yet 0-3. They are two games out of first place with no Division wins yet. McNabb is probably out for next week against NYG. In NY.

I know they have held everyone’s nose in it for the past four years, but really, it would take a miracle for them to get back into it, or all three teams ahead of them to collapse.

The King is Dead.

 Now let’s see who will step up and take the crown. I think It’s Washington or hopefully Dallas.

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

aw,

Bledsoe did seem to hold onto the ball too much, but i think that he had no where to go with it. the Cowboys seemed to be slipping all over the place.

BUT,
The Eagles were camped out in the Cowboys backfield all night.
Bledsoe is what he is. We know it , you know it, everyone knows it. He doesn’t feel blitz pressure very well. He isn’t a mobile QB. He will get rattled if you get to him up the middle.

That said, who in the NFC is playing better. He is one of the top three QB’s in the NFC this year so far.

He isn’t going to get mobile or start feeling the blitz better now than when he first got drafted. The Line is Young, but it has to play better.

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah witten has had better games.

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

Alantdot
What I’m saying is they are not out of it because they have to play NY twice and washington once. I’m not saying they are going to win it, its just not over yet. “Its washington or hopefully dallas” what is that?? I think its still open because Dallas’s offence, NY and washington problems on the road. Dallas is in the drivers seat. If NY beats Philly next week its over for Philly.

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

Bledsoe and our offence numbers are not as good as they seem. When nobody is open that’s not the line fault( lack of a playmaker) QB get hit and sacked its part of the game. What Bledsoe can do is be smarter with the ball when he is rushed or throw the ball away. That can change.

by aw on Nov 15, 2005 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

I just read the Fort Worth Telegram’s article by Jim Reeves. I see it as a cheap, uninformed, hit piece against Drew Bledsoe. Drew should be commended for hanging in there and continuing to perform against continual pressure. Reeves, however, chooses to characterize Drew’s play as “incredibly stupid.” This article seems unfair and one-sided.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/13171679.htm

by Madcowboy on Nov 15, 2005 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

Madcowboy, don’t get mad at Reeves, at least about this one. Bledsoe’s pass WAS incredibly stupid, and WAS the turning point in the game up until then. McNabb’s pass was even stranger, though, because he didn’t have the excuse of someone on him at the time, like Bledsoe did. He just threw a pass that looked like Roy was the intended receiver, and Roy caught it. As well as McNabb played all game except that throw, and as much as he left it all on the field, he still got the Philly “cheer” from their fans as he left the field. I find myself not disliking McNabb too much these days, but I sure am glad the Cowboys could stick it to their fans.

by cowboy bert on Nov 15, 2005 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

Barber is the starter right now because he blocks much better than Julius. Did you see him get out there on the CB blitz, on the big play to Price?

Bledsoe made a critical mistake that you can’t make on the road. He turned the ball over inside his own 20. That is a no-no!

Other than Bledsoe’s mistake, and a a few penalties that elongated an Eagles drive, the Boys played a good road game. The Eagles had more emotion than the Cowboys, that in itself was hard to overcome. Dallas is a very inexperienced team and playing on the road, on Monday Night, against a division foe that is desperate .. it was just hard to match that emotion. With all that was against them, including the loss Parcells suffered, they were in it the entire way. .. I had thought Burnett might be an emotional leader earlier in the year, and yesterday he gave that defense a much needed lift. He plays with a lot of emotion, and really he couldn’t be much worse than Fujita, the way he played last night. .. It will be a difficult task, but they have 3 more critical road games and a few tough home games to build up to the level of emotion they’ll need to play with. .. I think it will come with time, but the question is will it be soon enough? Will it even be this year?This win may have bought them another week, but they have to step it up if they want it!!

by EricR on Nov 15, 2005 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

I bet that JJ is the starter against Detroit. Barber laying the ball down at a crucial point always costs you with BP. JJ did not get enough carries to warm up or get the rust off- WHAT was Barber’s excuse? (since many here seem to think that all the faults with the running game this year are JJ’s responsibility). Just have to laught at the JJ haters with their agenda. Barber looked like crap except on one play- and JJ would have taken that one to the house.

by Burmafrd on Nov 15, 2005 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

Eric R,

I agree with Burmafrd here. Barber got the start because they expected heavy blitzing and got it. Who do you trust in this situation? Barber clearly. Add that Julius probably still isn’t fully recovered and this decision seems easy. I don’t think it holds when Jones is 100%

by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2005 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

aw,

I say Washington because NY keeps getting touted but falling short when it counts.

Washington has the tiebreaker against Dallas right now and against Philly.
They have NY at Home.
They have already played through the hard part of their schedule and are now looking at a softie at home – warm weather team in late Nov at 10.00 am PST – in Oakland .
They have SD at home the following week – same advantages but against a better team.

Then they got St Louis. I;d rather play St Louis on the road than Carolina on the road like Dallas has to.

Then they go Arizona who should be so far out of it by then that the back ups will be playing.
 
Then they got three Divisional games of which two are at home.

That’s why I think they will be the team to beat in this Division.

Am I making sense?

Being a fan doesn’t mean you gotta be a homer.

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

As Parcells said, we were “Fortunate”. I still can’t believe we won that game. We were totally outplayed the entire night. It was the week 2 Washington game in reverse.

Things that I liked:

1) Newman, Roy, Davis, and A Glenn played well both in base 3-4 and in nickle. Davis, in particular, seemed to be playing much smarter than earlier in the year. Now, his unnecessary roughness penalty was stupid (and somewhat bogus), but overall, he played one of his better games.

2) Kevin Burnett played fairly well. Made some tackles.

3) Ware played some very nice run defense. That play that he made on his facemask penalty where he chased down Westbrooks was how a 3-4 OLB is supposed to play the run.

4) Marion Barber’s blitz pickup was very good. He “jacked-up” the blitzer on Price’s long bomb. I am not sure if he or Polite missed Trotter on the blitz when Bledsoe threw the INT. Both he and Polite when to the outside rusher, leaving Trotter to Bledsoe. My first impression was that Polite went for the wrong guy, but I can’t be certain. Regardless, Barber did a nice job of blocking.

5) Dat made a huge play when he diagnosed the shovel pass before the snap. If the Eagles had scored a TD, the game would have effectively been over. But they were held to a FG and kept Dallas in the game.

Things that I didnt like:

1) Both lines were horrible. The Eagles dominated the line of scrimmage all night. The dline got NO penetration on running plays and only marginal pressure on McNabb. Now maybe playing a 2-gap scheme reduces penetration against the run, but their play was horrible.

The O-line allowed penetration all night, on both running and passing downs. No RB would have had success running behind that line last night.

2) Where was Shanle? Canty? Ferguson? Glover? Spears?

3) Suisham needs to get his kickoffs deeper than the 10 yard line.

4) Reeves showed why he is a reserve most of the game. To his credit, however, he did force the incompletion on that late pass-play that would have set up about a 40 yard FG. Now the receiver has been getting roasted on other boards for dropping it, but Reeves was able to pull his hands away and force the incomplete. But hopefully Henry will be back soon.

All in all, Dallas got lucky. Very lucky. It is rare to be owned on both sides of the ball and come out ahead. The defense surprises me the most. The oline has had trouble most of this year. But the defense getting dominated is really concerning. It the Eagles can go for 165 yards or whatever, what do you think Denver will do 10 days from now? Lets really hope this is a 1 game aberration or our stay at the top of the NFC East will be short-lived.

by Rob H in Upstate NY on Nov 15, 2005 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

the holes suddenly showing up in the Skins D is what will kill them in the end.

by Burmafrd on Nov 15, 2005 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

Let me add that Barber is another thing that I didnt like, except for pass protection. Did he break 1 tackle all night long? All season long? I am having a hard time remembering any.

And don’t get me started on the fumble. If there is one cardinal sin in that situation, its to put the ball on the carpet. When he came out for that last series, I asked myself why on earth do you put him in here? He fumbled way too much in preseason for me to trust him here. And sure enough, he put it on the carpet. It was one of several miracles that he got it back.

by Rob H on Nov 15, 2005 2:31 PM CST reply actions  

Good teams win even when they play poorly. I’m not ready to place this year’s Cowboys in that category yet. But, as someone else noted, this is a young team that just stole a win from a determined, talented team on the road. Let’s just let them have it and see where it takes them.

by steelyeyedmissle on Nov 15, 2005 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

Burmafrd,

Holes in Wash, what about NY? After their DEnds what do they really have?

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

Let’s cool it on the Bledsoe-blaming. Yesterday he was 17-24-196-1-1 for a passer rating of 91.7. That’s a good day any day, more so when the defense is in the backfield so often.

This year he is the 4th ranked passer (passer rating) in the NFL and is in the top six QBs for completion %, yards per completion and yards per attempt. Those are Pro Bowl-caliber numbers.

If you want to look for problems on offense, look to the O-Line. They have “helped” us to just 3.4 yards per carry (4th worst) and allowed a whopping 22 sacks (11th most).

by Remnant on Nov 15, 2005 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

AlanTDot,

I’ve got to agree with Burmafrd (by the way, what does that mean) and Rafael…the Skins are not nearly as talented as either NY or Dallas. Defense is decent, but not capable of shutting down good teams. Their Offense is average, at best. No way they take the division.

And you’re right, Ron, our stay will be short atop the NFC East, should our play continue at the level displayed last night…but

As most of you know, I’m an unapologetic optimist and Cowboys homer. And having ripped the trenches in an earlier post on this thread I’ve got a few observations.

Yes, we were whooped. Bitch-slapped at the point of attack. But it was by a team that:

A. Was clearly (unanimously) considered the best team in the NFC at the beginning of the year

B. Has one of the top 3 OLs in football. Still.

C. Had the best D in the NFL last year (opinion, not stats) and increasingly was playing much better

D. Was playing a desperate game, at home, in prime time, against the backdrop of t.o. Talk about a team with no lack of motivation!

and finally, E. McNabb was healthy for the first time all season.

Talk about taking a punch to the mouth. Yet, the team really hung in there, and made the plays. That was a 72-yard drive. A defensive play, not a mistake. And a damn fine stop at the end.

by Fighter15 on Nov 15, 2005 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

Rafael,

Julius is 100%. Barber was back there because he is a better pass protector. That was my thought too. But I think it wasn’t just for Philly, Bledsoe likes the added protection he gets with Barber.

Burmfrd,

I do have to agree with you about holding on to the ball. But Burmfrd, just because we choose or think one guy is better than the other doesn’t make us “haters” of any sort. Its just my opinion that Barber plays with a good amount of emotion, and is a better all around back.

by EricR on Nov 15, 2005 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

I’ve maintained that Dallas was “practically undefeated” this year because we had either won, or played well enough to win.

But last night’s performance is the worst I’ve seen them play for an extended time all year. Remember the first few series in the San Diego game? They sucked, but they came back quickly and played sharp with emotion.

Last night? Last minute luck. I’m REALLY GLAD FOR ROY WILLIAMS. I supported him vehemently after the washington meltdown, so it was great to see him get the pick and TD.

Hey, I’ll take the win; it’s payback for week 2. But we’d BETTER come back hard against the Lions. We need to come out with emotion and hit them HARD- right in the mouth. No prisoners!!

by rich on Nov 15, 2005 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

Barber is better.

by rich on Nov 15, 2005 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

I sit here in awe……shock….terror…….not at the game, but at what I am about to say. With Dallas owning the Eagles now, and New York still a thorn in our side, for next week only…….go eagles. Dear Lord………..what have I done?

by Sab on Nov 15, 2005 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

Hey Cowboy Fans,

With Denver coming up on turkey day
isn`t this weeks game against Detroit the classic trap game ?

Can Roy Williams pick off Roy Williams?

by Jesse New York on Nov 15, 2005 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

Remnant,

you are exactly right. The bright spot of this game was the fact that Bledsoe was under heavy pressure and produced key plays. Under this pressure the consistency of any quarterback will be diminished. Other than one bonehead play, he was spectacular.

Remember, he had no running game against a team that was putting relentless pressure on him and he hit enough plays to win the game. What more could you ask?

by rha on Nov 15, 2005 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

what’s up fellas? Last night was crazy…can’t believe that happened. That’s what they call one in a million, huh? But come one guys…we need a ground game…and FAST!!!!

by emrdog on Nov 15, 2005 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

Sab: root for whomever, as long as it helps the Cowboys in some way. You can always tie a game into the Cowboys somehow (well at least I can).

by Foos on Nov 15, 2005 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

We played our worse game of the year in the most hostile enviroment & somehow found a way to win. If I told everyone at the beginning of the year that we’d go to Philly on MNF in November w/o Flozell Adams on the left side & a rookie R/T on the OLINE. Along w/ J. Jones not starting. By the way also missing our defensive MVP of the 1st half(Henry)right corner & starting ILB& we won the game! No one would believe that.

Did we play like crap? Oh yeah. As good teams do however we somehow found a way to win.

The best thing about this game was we were so bad it won’t allow us to look past Detroit & forward to Denver. If we blew out Philly then I’d be concerned about overlooking Detroit.

by Dave on Nov 15, 2005 4:44 PM CST reply actions  

Jay Jay,

I think the Giants lose another one next week- the Eagles, while anemic, are definately a wounded animal. I also think that we can beat the Giants in NY- just because our defense is better.

I don’t think we should get all over the D after last night- they found a way to win the game for us. BP was saying that the first practices sucked, and it showed last night. Just rusty, getting back in the groove, fortunate to get outta Philly with a W. Also, can’t say enough about Drew Bledsoe. I mean, do you see Quincy Carter getting knocked around the whole game, but finding it in himself to spark the team to victory??

I like our chances this year.

by skinsnyeaglehater on Nov 15, 2005 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

I am glad we got the win. But it seems to me that The play calling last nite was terrible. I cant say the Offence was bad, just that the game plan was way to conservitive. At the end, on thire last scoring drive. They opened it up and scored with ease. I wish BP would do that sooner.

by NW on Nov 15, 2005 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

Barber has played 2 good games. He did not look good last night. AND he fumbled. SO how can one claim he is better then JJ? INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE- CASE DISMISSED.

by Burmafrd on Nov 15, 2005 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

I wasn’t really that upset with the offense…granted it looked like a big steaming pile for most of the night. But I was more upset with how Dallas got pushed around by the Philly O.L. especially the ends…I’m just going to chalk it up to a bye week stuper…maybe everyone is awake now

by emrdog on Nov 15, 2005 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

Some opinions into what some of you guys brought to light in this place:

- KJ, TG, PP and Crayton certainly form one of the best wide receivers tandems in the league, might not be the sexiest tandem, but production is a certain. Or how else would you explain that Bledsoe is the 6th ranked QB in yards with only 268 attempts? I won’t see an inteligent answer that’s shows any opposition to the point.

- We can only point 1 major deficiency in Bledsoe’s play, as soon as he counts to 4-Mississippi he has to fire the ball away from his grasp, he’s trying to make something out of nothing repeatedly.

- Too much noise in this MB-JJ controversy, what was the diference between JJ play earlier in the season and MB’s in this game? We saw solid blocking from both and they made the most out of their chances. If the team that stands after the OLine controls the line of scrimmage not even Emmith or Barry would accomplish far more that what this guys have been making.

- And kudos to Aaron Glenn, he survived out there, as soon as I found out that Henry wasn’t going to be out there I panicked.

by Chandus on Nov 15, 2005 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

First, the reason the Fleagles ground game worked is because the Boys stayed in the base 3-4 for nearly the entire game. The 3-4 has running lanes for an inside running game.
Next, our running game has to improve. If we want to be a threat in the playoffs we have to run.
Third, I live right outside Philly and you should hear the sports talk shows today. The â€Å"loyal” Fleagels fans are ready to dismantle their team and fire McNabb and Andy Reid.
Also the hosts claimed Jose Cortez is horrible. He can’t kick off past the 10 yard line. Sound familiar?
Fourth, I beliove the Fleagles were exhausted at the end of the game from all their dancing during their celebrations. They dance and celebrate more 1 yard gains then any team.
Last but not least, is it a little suspicious that McNabb can moon walk on a TD but gets hurt when he blows the game. Maybe TOâ€â"¢s observations and comments about him have some merit!!

by gman on Nov 15, 2005 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed on the eagles’ dancing crap. Mcnabb’s moonwalk in the endzone and that stupid 1st quarter air guitar dance (after a sack?) was disturbing. Glad we didn’t see that laughable eagle flap.

Poor eagles- Just when they thought they couldn’t hate the Cowboys more than they already do….

by rich on Nov 15, 2005 5:42 PM CST reply actions  

hey ya’ll. I’ve been reading si.com today and there are two seperate pieces saying that dallas is the team most likely to pick up t.o. after all this mess…am i losing it? First last night, now this?

by emrdog on Nov 15, 2005 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

On the play that was described as Glenn slowing down and then being over thrown. When I first saw that play I could have sworn that there was some contact from the defender that threw Glenn off stride. One of you that tape the game could check that out.
Now as far as the team’s lackluster performance. Yes, we got man handled a bit on both lines. My thoughts on the defense is that several of those players are playing their 13th game. They may be facing some fatigue and not adjusting to the longer schedule. The will get their second wind soon and be back even stronger. They also faced a pretty good offensive line. The offensive line is still a work in progress. I saw some good performances with some poor play. If we will just remember that we are trying to perform with in effect two rookie tackles, then we might be more tolerant to their failings.
Going into last nights game I thought that destroying the Eagles might be a great feeling, but as the game came to an end maybe the way they lost gave them hope for the future. We need them strong now and we need for them to play hard like they did last night against Washington and New York. Just the musings of a long time Cowboy fan.

by Tommy on Nov 15, 2005 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

Hey folks…

Let’s not get into a bashing of McNabb. He is a class act regardless of the fact that he’s the focal leader for the enemy. No matter what your loyalties, you have to appreciate his playing hurt and with a great deal of heart. At the time of his touchdown moondance, he had not really been hit. By the time Shanle put the hit on him on Roy’s int, he was already beginning to feel the wear and tear … the hit merely aggrevated his injuries even more. Agreed, they should have subbed for him on the next series. However, it would be hard for a coach to take out the team leader at such a critical time. So let’s let the disloyalist birdie fans bash their team … not us. And, pray that we do not digress into bashing our ‘Boys like they do. Sure, we can criticize, but let’s do it positively … not negatively.

by Digger O'Dell on Nov 15, 2005 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

Is our defense gonna be able handle Detroit’s big receivers? Hope Henry is playing next week.

by rich on Nov 15, 2005 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Rich…

If the QB doesn’t have time to find the open receiver, it won’t matter.

by Digger O'Dell on Nov 15, 2005 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

Sab:

I wrote the same thing last week. Let the Skins beat the Eagles, let the Eagles beat the Giants, and let the Giants beat the Skins. They can all form a huge cluster at midfield, for all I care, as long as they let the Cowboys on through. I would just as soon they each get complexes about the others, too, just so the Cowboys have a chance not to be the sole target on draft day.

NW:

I wish it were that easy. Glenn finally got open at the end because the line finally blocked an Eagle max blitz. Before that, Glenn was being doubled almost all night, even during blitzes. Credit Drew for seeing it and throwing it, and Barber for stoning the safety.

In the end, every defensive scheme has its weaknesses, and you can only defend against some stuff at a time. Philly scored both touchdowns because the Cowboys defense was looking pass first in those situations. That is, the Eagles made perfect calls for the defense, and made them pay.

The last FG came because Dallas was in the correct defense to stop to shovel pass and Dat recognized it.

Who knows why McNabb threw the ball to Roy.

by cowboy bert on Nov 15, 2005 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

Cowboy Bert …

It would appear that the ’Boys prepared for the soaring birds and not the roadrunners. The D was looking pass first, run second. Reid, with his play calling took advantage of us on this one. Any good coach would. They took what we gave them and dared us to stop what was working.

by Digger O'Dell on Nov 15, 2005 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

Burmafrd,

MBIII didn’t impress BP with that fumble you are right.

JJ starts against Detroit and torches a pretty good D on Sunday.

On Thursday? BP unveils a new look flying wing and plays all three RB’s with FB Polite and TE Campbell and runs till those Cleveland castoffs step on their tongues.

Or not.

by AlanTdot on Nov 15, 2005 6:52 PM CST reply actions  

I think that just the fact that Dallas won is great. Andy Reid had never lost a game after leading in the first half and the Eagles were playing in a must win game. Though it wasn’t a pretty win at all, we couldn’t run or stop the run, but just winning in this tough environment is good enough for me.

by Zach Schaphorst on Nov 15, 2005 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

rich,

I hope that is why Bill left Henry out last night. Knowing that we had 3 big receivers coming to town next week and only one decent size receiver to worry about in the Eagles game.

by Cash on Nov 15, 2005 7:41 PM CST reply actions  

Digger,

Bradie James made that block, not Shanle.

by StarStruck on Nov 15, 2005 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

rich,

How stupid was that McNabb, Michael Jackson imitation? For a guy with a groin pull that legg whip move doesn’t seem advisable. I’m guessing had that ball not been intercepted by Williams and caught by Brown he would have been just fine. I don’t see how Brady’s hit would have reaggrivated his injury. I just don’t think he wanted to get up.

by Cash on Nov 15, 2005 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

Not concerned about the line play on O or D. We went into a VERY hostile enviroment against a team who has been to 4, yes, 4 NFC Championship games. We went with a host of Rookies on D and some on O. Monday Nite at the Linc. against a team up against the wall trying to claw itself out. Imagine how the vets felt let alone the rookies knowing they were in a war on a national stage against a team trying to stay in the hunt and letting it all ride. They hung tough and the rookies learned from the vets and want be so bugged eyed next time>>>it only gets better now…..We walked into a hornets nest and with 3 minuites to go…WE SPRAYED RAID !!!!!!!!!!!! Go Cowboys !!!!!!!!

by 5rings on Nov 15, 2005 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

Board,

At the end of the day I think Barber is a more complete back. He has longer arms and can get his hands out away from his body making him a better reciever. He’s better at picking up the blitz and he keepos his legs moving upon contact with the defender. The only thing Jones has on barber is speed. The yards per carry speak for themselves. Now as far as the ineffectiveness of both last night, well you can blame the offensive line too.

And as far as pass blocking goes Tucker got schooled by a backup rookie who the Eagles list as a Linebacker. We have problems on the offensive line.

by Cash on Nov 15, 2005 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

Dave,

Agree about the Lions game. I don’t think this will be a trap game because they were so flat last night, especially the defensive front 7. They’ve been great for a month, then let a team that can’t run trample them.

Plus, let’s not let the Cardinals distort out view. There was a lot of discussion about Barber vs. Jones based on Marion’s game vs. Arizona. Now, the Lions are puffed up because they beat up on the Cards.

The only thing I can take from this is that Arizona’s D is really bad.

I don’t think there’s any way Dallas can be that down two games in a row.

by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2005 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

Was anybody else impressed by how the rookie tyson thompson returned the ball on kickoffs. I like how quick his initial burst is and he gives us pretty decent field position on almost every return

by Melill0~ on Nov 15, 2005 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

I was hoping they were going to try Tyson’s burst on offense. I think it would have been the perfect counter to the Eagles penetration. But that’s me.

by StarStruck on Nov 15, 2005 8:23 PM CST reply actions  

I would have love to been in the parking lot after the game, watching the eagles fans walk to their car moping and debating whether or not to slash their wrists with their keys.

I think this was just a sloppy game and it shows that the Cowboys are a good team with a lot of fight in them.

by Dude on Nov 15, 2005 8:25 PM CST reply actions  

I am a frequent reader, but hardly post. First of all, John Madden isnt that great, on one occasion, he was talking about terry glenn, and about 5 times he said aaron glenn. another time was when he said shanle made the block and it was really james(my new hero, 12 tackles). and one more time, he at first said it was shanle who called out “shovel, watch the shovel”, then corrected himself in saying it was nguyen…..
okay new topic. why didnt we start and run julius jones. marion barber, eh? come on julius jones has tons of talent and it is a not fun to see talent wasted, but if im BP, there is no way i can forget wut this kid did the last 7 games of last season. wuts the deal, jones is out 3 games and everybody forgets about the 150 and 198 yard performances? i kno they dont wanna take a chance at reinjuring the ankle, but he looked fine on a 9 yard run i saw. word

by nick on Nov 15, 2005 8:50 PM CST reply actions  

Jarhead,

     Well everyone sorry it took me so long to post, but it’s hard to type when youâ€â"¢re on cloud 9. The two Super Bowls I attended involving Dallas not withstanding, this was the most amazing and beautiful game I have ever attended.
You may or may not know that I am a die-hard Dallas fan that lives in Philadelphia. Attending Dallas – Philadelphia games since 97’ and always dressed in full gear. I receive many Dallas sucks, Dallas swallows, F this, F that, and multiple other names and cruelties that I will fail to mention. Since 99’ I have left the Vet/Linc with a feeling that’s hard to describe, almost impossible to put into words. Of course you love your team even after losing attempts, but in that environment you wonder to yourself if it really makes sense to continue to attend these games and absorb the verbal and sometimes almost physical abuses you take as a Cowboy fan in Philadelphia. I have been to San Francisco, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Washington, New York, Atlanta, Arizona, Buffalo, and Baltimore and none of those places have fans that treat opposing fans like they do here. You sometimes wonder if youâ€â"¢re in a safe environment, no matter how tough and big you may be. Even as some of these negative thoughts entered into my head with 4 minutes left in the game, thinking specifically about how safe our walk back to the car would be, I sat alongside my Father, Mother, and girlfriend and never entertained the idea of leaving early. What transpired from the point of Akers hitting the 20th point for Philadelphia to Akers missing a 60 yarder renewed any wavering faith, any doubt, and answered any questions I may have ever had about attending this game every year,(God willing) until I die.
On to the game……Lots of verbal abuse walking into the stadium, both my father and I dressed in our Cowboys wear and pretty easy targets amongst all green. Had good seats, Eagles side, 30 yard line lower level, with a fine view of all the action. Not much to cheer about early in the game with the exception of the 58 yarder to Price, and the Barber TD. Dallas sucks was the constant chant, sometimes we would get A-hole, but that was only when we were really lucky. Surprise of the night was that we had two Cowboy fans behind us, and I only saw about 5 more the whole night. [ Just a note, after Akers made it 20-7 almost half of the fans left, trying to beat traffic I suppose] After Drew hit Terry the place shut up, I mean you could almost hear our little Cowboy section on TV, the place went clam shell. Saw some people file back in, but still the place was half empty, reminded me of the good old days when Dallas was up 27-0 at the end of the third in Philly. So now they run on first down with like 2:20 left and Dallas calls timeout, no one was saying anything wearing green, but they still felt they had the game. Then on 2nd and 7 with like 2:20 left my life changed forever, you can not imagine what I was saying when Roy caught that ball, I don’t remember what I was saying, just that I felt like I was running right along side of Roy. I was literally running in place and when he crossed that goal-line I almost knocked my father down. We actually had to calm ourselves down, because its times like these that some upset drunk will want to get physical with you. Some lady hit me with some lose change, which lead to my comment of “you have a better arm than Donovan.” I HAVE NEVER FELT LIKE THIS BEFORE, NOT EVEN WHEN JAMES WASHINGTON WAS RETURNING THE FUMBLE IN THE SUPER BOWL AGAINST THE BILLS. Guys the place was like a morgue, I mean it felt as if the wind just up and left the stadium. No Dallas sucks, no your f-ing so and so, nothing at all. Once or twice I head someone say “why were they throwing”, but other than that nothing. So I had to calm my dad down, and let him know we needed to focus on this thing because it wasn’t close to being over. Here’s where I think it got the most intense for me. McNabb came back out (to a lot of boos I might add), missed on 1st and 2nd down with pass attempts, and on third took the Ellis sack. They lined up to punt, and I could swear they were going to attempt a fake, and Dallas only had single coverage on the outside gunners, but thankfully they didn’t. You all don’t know what I said during the Barber fumble, or what I think of him as a ball player, but lucky for him he got it back. Then my father and I were yelling and pleading for them not to punt it to Westbrook, but they did, lucky he didn’t do much with it. The pass to Brown that Reeves DID break up was heart wrenching and the 60 yard attempt scared me half to death. Because I was watching Akers kick during pre-game the other direction from 58 yards away and making them. Now here’s where it got a little weird, Dallas called a time out before the attempt, and right after that the wind picked up (no wind all night) into the face of the Eagles. I guess God just had to help his favorite team. As we left the stadium, not saying a word mind you, that’s how you get into big time fights; people didn’t say one thing to us on our way out. The sweet sound of silence! They were breaking things in the parking lot, and throwing garbage cans, but didn’t say one thing to us. In all the excitement, I forgot to take a picture of that final score board, but everything else about the night was picture perfect. Crazy this game of football, play like a bunch of dogs, yet win and have everyone talking playoffs. Well no matter what happens from here on out, it’s been a hell of a ride so far. Cowboy Nation is Riding Again, America has her team back!!!!!

Jarhead…….ewww rahhhh

by Wade Roberts on Nov 15, 2005 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

Great post, Wade! I was right there with you throughout your account of an unforgettable night! Yeah, I too was jumping up and down when Roy caught the ball and “Shanle” er James threw down McNabb for what could be a few games, if not the season.

I had to throw in that Shanle reference, because even our newspaper, The Review Journal, here in Vegas said it was Shanle throwing the block on McNabb.

You’re very brave to attend games in Philly! Thanks for a wonderful account of the game in “Enemy Territory!”

Go Cowboys!

by onepaniolo on Nov 16, 2005 12:25 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks Rafael — I only see the games a week and a half, two weeks after they are played when my father sends a tape. Until then, I rely on the radio broadcast through Field Pass and when the game begins at 3 AM local time, I only hear every other play.

by Douglas on Nov 16, 2005 1:53 AM CST reply actions  

Tyson Thompson was one arm tackle away from freedom on one of those returns and I also wanted to see him in the backfield. Barber has been slightly lucky so far that his fumbles all have bounced back to him.

by Lee on Nov 16, 2005 2:59 AM CST reply actions  

Lee,

I’d like to see Thompson get a few carries too. I think we could see that happen more against Detroit.

I’ve been away for a while, but I’ve been watching all the games, except for the Giants game in Dallas. Through some cruel twist of fate I wound up on a plane to Dallas DURING THE GAME. Broke my heart, but when I landed and found out we had won the game, the pain went away. I had the great thrill of driving past Texas stadium, and for me, that was fantastic because I’ve been watching the boys play there (on TV) for years, so to see it up close, was amazing.

I’m back now, so I’ll be checking in periodically. The job just won’t let me stay on like I used to, but I see you guys are carrying on just fine.

Those of you who were around when I was here more often remember me telling you about dreams of McNabb on his @ss with a Cowboy standing over him. Well, dreams do come true. I got my greatest wish. TWO Cowboy victories over the iggles. I could not be happier, especially since my wife is from Philly and celebrated mightily last year when we got our @sses handed to us by them. Revenge is SWEET. The best part of the game was watching McNabb moonwalking in the endzone one minute, and rolling over in disbelief the next as the iggles lost AGAIN!

by Rob2 on Nov 16, 2005 7:18 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah Rob2, what a difference a half makes! I too had those same feelings when I finally got to see Texas Stadium for real. I was just passing through Dallas, but I made it a point to drive past “Our Home!”

by onepaniolo on Nov 16, 2005 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

I will never turn the TV off at the end of a Cowboys game again if there is even the slightest chance of a win. I might turn it off in a blowout, because it’s really tough to watch that go down.

Going past “our home” was sooooooo cool. It may be the only time I’ll ever get to see it, but I’m just glad I saw it once. Unfortunately, living in the Miami area, I don’t get to go to many Cowboys games. If they ever come this way again, I’ll be there. Whereever they are, I’m pulling for them.

by Rob2 on Nov 16, 2005 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

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