Pro Bowl Open Thread
If you hear any good free agency rumors during the game, pass them on.
Two free agent updates:
1.) Patriots Pro Bowler Adam Vinatieri might hit the market after all. He was franchised by the Patriots last year for over $2.5 million. Since he's the highest paid at his position in the NFL, a second franchise tag would guarantee him a 20% raise, pushing him over $3 million a year. That could be more than the Patriots -- or anybody else -- is willing to pay.
If New England balks, he's a free agent. Would you pay, say, $2.0 to $2.5 millon per season of Jerry Jones' money for the best money kicker ever? We just might get to see what Bill Parcells' answer would be.
2.) The Cleveland Browns are ready to cut ties with WR Antonio Bryant. The Steelers are rumored to be a destination for Bryant if they lose Antwaan Randle El.
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Rafael:
Already heard that Ray Lewis wants out of Baltimore as he thinks that he’s a better fit in a 3-4 Defense. Terms of his deal were undisclosed in 2002 so I don’t know how much would he cost this year and if the prorated signing bonus isn’t higher than what he’s going to earn, which would mean that he could be in the trading market.
I don’t know about this guy, he still has 2 or 3 years of great football as he’ll be just 31 next season. The only problem with him is how much is Baltimore expecting in return for him?
I would be willing to embark Glover and a late round pick for him.
by Chandus on Feb 12, 2006 2:13 PM CST reply actions
Lewis makes over $5 million a season. If you move Glover he becomes your highest paid defensive player. I’d only entertain that if he was the final piece to a Super Bowl run. The team isn’t that close, IMO.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 12, 2006 2:44 PM CST reply actions
I don’t want a murderer on our team. And I think he is going downhill as well. I disagree about how close we are- we are about 4 positions that need to be upgraded away from being as good as the current SB champ. OT, FS, K, LB. It is certainly possible to upgrade all those positions in one offseason.
by burmafrd on Feb 12, 2006 2:58 PM CST reply actions
I would love to get Vinatieri. Even if it cost us 3 mill a year. To have THAT worry gone is worth it. We had 3 games that we could have won that we lost due to a bad kicker this year. The Difference between a bye and not making the playoffs. Now with the line the way it was, we would have been one and done but at least we would have been there.
by burmafrd on Feb 12, 2006 3:02 PM CST reply actions
I want Vinateri if cut, there was already speculation about 3 weeks ago that if cut he would end up in Dallas. JJ will pay bigg money for him after what we witnessed last year. If not, Longwell is fine with me.
by lou c on Feb 12, 2006 3:23 PM CST reply actions
Burmafrd:
Didn’t remembered that he was accused of that, with the other Lewis on that team having legal troubles I just forgot that.
Rafael:
I know that he’s paid alot of money, I just also realize that he wants to play for a 3-4 team. He’s just another name for me as I’m just covering all the options so nothing caughts me by surprize.
BTW, I really don’t think that we will see Vinatieri in FA, who’s in the Pats roster that looks like a Franchise player the most this year? Vinatieri.
by Chandus on Feb 12, 2006 3:47 PM CST reply actions
Chandus,
But can they afford Vinatieri with having to sign Seymour long term and sign a big name free agent WR?
by lou c on Feb 12, 2006 3:56 PM CST reply actions
lou:
The franchise tag for Kickers is of 2.5 millions, so yes, they can afford him. And they could sign Seymour and someone else if they manage to have McGinest signing a restructured deal.
by Chandus on Feb 12, 2006 4:15 PM CST reply actions
If they franchise him again they have to pay him 20% more so it would go to 3 million. If they are smart they keep him.
by burmafrd on Feb 12, 2006 4:48 PM CST reply actions
viniateri would put us at our cap limit, so who you gonna cut to make room to sign the other four “need” positions? There are more affordable K’s out there when we need more than just one player. I do love his numbers tho-
Also, watched LA doin the bench press today and his attitude doesn’t seem to be that of a disgruntled employee of the month
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 4:53 PM CST reply actions
Yeah I agree they probably will keep him but the Pats usually let 1 big name go every offseason (Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law). So it wouldnt be a big suprise if they do let him go.
by lou c on Feb 12, 2006 4:56 PM CST reply actions
J-Whit looks all grown up. he’s a whoping 23 or 24 now? what’ll he do when he “develops”?
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 5:04 PM CST reply actions
yeah and the anoying thimg with the pats is how it never hurts them either. They plug the hole and Billichik gets all the praise.
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 5:06 PM CST reply actions
Interesting to note that Witten hasn’t been subbed by Crumpler, wasn’t Crumpler supposed to be the starter?
by Chandus on Feb 12, 2006 5:40 PM CST reply actions
Deangelo Hall is more vocal and you know what they say about squeeky wheels. Have you guys noticed how well Roy and Darren sharper are playing together? Lynch looks real good too!
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 5:58 PM CST reply actions
http://www.nfl.com/probowl/nfc_roster
try this for the rosters, yeah crumpler was the starter
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 6:00 PM CST reply actions
Joe Theisman gets stupider every time I hear him. He was saying that Mike Vick is starting to learn how to make those throws when he just threw the ball as high as he could. One of the other guys should have slapped him right on the spot. And to think we still have to listen to this idiot still on Monday Night.
by lou c on Feb 12, 2006 6:21 PM CST reply actions
can we trade all our picks for the next 3 years plus all our QB’s for Peyton Manning?
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 6:28 PM CST reply actions
First time roy didn’t allow a reciever to get by him all year, alittle too late roy
by Derrick on Feb 12, 2006 6:52 PM CST reply actions
Loved the hand off. Should have been T-new in there to take it.
Poke
by Poke on Feb 12, 2006 6:56 PM CST reply actions
Derrick:
That’s a bit exagerated, he’s not a cover safety and was asked to cover too much last year and managed to at least look decent.
gunner:
Yeah, it certainly helps to Roy that 2 good cover safeties (Sharper and Dawkins) are playing along him. Imagine if he was allowed to blitz. Oh, God, I want an above average cover safety.
by Chandus on Feb 12, 2006 7:07 PM CST reply actions
anyone notice how peyton just thanked mike and paul but not joe thiesman? WTG Peyton!!
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 7:15 PM CST reply actions
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/drafts
want to cry over the past missed drafts? look how many players playing here today were available.
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 7:55 PM CST reply actions
2000 &2001 koren robinson and shaun alexander-all for joey!!!!!!!
by gunnerklein on Feb 12, 2006 7:59 PM CST reply actions
Speaking of previous drafts, I was looking at SI.com’s 2005 rankings by position. According to them, the Cowboys got 2 of the top 4 LB’s, 3 of the top 10 DE’s, and the 4th rated RB in the draft. It just goes to show you how amazing our draft was last year.
by lou c on Feb 12, 2006 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Raf,
Say it isn’t so!!!!!!!!!
You mean another mean spirited idiotic
crony playing,control freak of a coach
has yet again failed to help the uber
talented and yet so easily coachable AB on his march to Canton?
And the Browns aren’t getting anything
in return??
Jeeez… at least we got a Super Bowl
winning wideout in our deal.
by BECKER2 on Feb 12, 2006 9:58 PM CST reply actions
“I love Jason Witten”
As much as I do love Jason Witten, that commented was posted by my wife – I guess I left the site up on her laptop.
Is Bryant’s contract up in Cleveland? I seem to remember hearing that they signed him after we traded him.
Poke
by Poke on Feb 12, 2006 11:11 PM CST reply actions
Chandus,
Not only do you have to worry about what Ray Lewis would cost in trade, but also what are his contract demands. I believe the reason he is asking for a trade is because he is dissatisfied with his current contract, and Baltimore won’t redo it.
by Mr. Bill on Feb 12, 2006 11:56 PM CST reply actions
Chandus:
I have been hearing the Ray Lewis rumors for weeks now, but like the Matt Schaub rumors, I didn’t put much into them. Strange that Lewis now suddenly likes the 3-4, since at the beginning of the season he was talking about how much he hated sharing the middle with another ILB and was anxious to return to playing MLB in Rex Ryan’s 46 defense. It obviously didn’t work out, but then again he was injured much of the season too.
I know Lewis is/was a proven Super Bowl LB, but moneywise to trade for such a high priced big name older player with recent injuries, and not to let Singleton and Fujita go and bring in a budding talent like Ayodele seems like not such a great idea to me.
I’m glad everyone likes Roy again. Now imagine how good the defense could be if there was a true cover safety back there doing that job and letting Roy play like he is capable of closer to the line. John Lynch, even at his age, was highly effective last year because his team let him play to his strengths. I know Roy is far better than Lynch, and if he used in run support and blitz packages he will add a whole new dimension to this defense next year. Look at how good he was his rookie season when he was able to play his game. The last few after that he had to try to compensate for the coverage problems in the secondary and that has really de-fanged him. He is too dangerous a weapon to be playing centerfield…put him in a position to strike at offenses, not react.
by Sterling on Feb 13, 2006 8:08 AM CST reply actions
Last off season I was hoping the Cowboys would sign Sharper. Just imagine the secondary we could of had. T-New, Roy, Sharper, Henry, and Aaron Glenn.
by CKnight on Feb 13, 2006 11:09 AM CST reply actions

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