Johnson Cut. Do We Have A Causal Chain?

No way was KJ cut for $. He was only making a couple mill. It is all about T.O. and that sucks!

Star Telegram has a little more detail, says the Boys will be willing to bring him back after he tests the market.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/

regardless, without Key, WR becomes a very high priority for the Cowboys

This is horrible. I’m going to have an anuerysm.

jsdoty
lol

I just don’t understand it. Keyshawn was an absolute bargain, even with the $1 million bonus. Heck, even if he wanted a contract extension, it’s not like he was asking for Rosenhaus-type money. I really hope the Boys bring him back. I still think a Keyshawn, Glenn, Moulds (the Bills are almost guaranteed to release him if he doesn’t restructure) trio with Witten and Crayton would be the best option. Not to say Moulds is your quintessential locker-room guy, but he’s no T.O., and with him we could still keep Key.

I think cutting KJ was a mistake UNLESS we sign TO. I understand the thinking, having TO and KJ could be very disruptive.
I sure hope TO is worth all of this, I am not 100% sold.
Now (again) lets get Vinatieri and Chrip Hope, trade down in the draft and build a playoff team THIS year !

T.O is coming here.

The word on the street is Dan Snyder has offered KJ a 6 year deal worth 30M with a 12M signing bonus. I also heard that snyder offered Alex Rodriquez a 6 year deal for 30M but then found out he played baseball for the yankees and recanted the offer.

If we sign Owens, the Redskins should be afraid of the boys.

I really enjoyed Keyshawn and his get it done attitude. I hope he comes back at price that is fair to both parties and not at some of the exorbitant money that is floating around right now. Current contract would not be in line with #2 receivers.

Got a question for you sperts.

I don’t see us spending much money on a kicker, we have never learned our lesson in the past. Which brings me to the question.

If we are in fact entertaining K Vinaterri, does that mean that Bill thinks we are in fact that close to being a real contender and that he will be here another couple years?

IMO, I think Key and the ‘Boys couln’t come to an agreement as to what Key’s actual market value was. We all know he was worth more then his scheduled salary so I think they let him test the waters so they could keeo him happy alongside TO. I think KJ would be willing to play with TO, but this is a risky move on JJ’s part. However I do think that out of respect for Bill KJ will give us a shot to match any offer he receives. It is whether or not we can afford is the problem. I think this would have happened regardless of TO coming here or not.

yes

If we dont sign some one, whether it be new or old, we are in one hell of a hole. why does everyone keep saying that key and TO would not fit on the same team?

IF we sign T.O that will help our
cornerbacks and recievers,and why are yall hating on T.O. Parcells knows how to deal with trouble makers
such as Keshawn Johnson he said some bad statments to Bledsoe in the season if you watched the cowboy games then you should agree T.O and Keyshan are exactly the same except T.O. is damn good.

Terry Glenn only makes 2.5 million this year, I wonder if he’s going to (1) get cut or (2) demand more money, especially with all the #2 and #3 receivers currently signing bigger contracts (thanks washington).

There’s your Big Bang.

Imagine what Terrell will do for Julius, Glenn and Whitten.

Bill has two years left, take a shot. “If you are going to make a mistake, make it a big one.”

Coat this pill with the sugar of Vinitieri

I agree Tex… even if signing TO will be a mistake, atleast it would be an entertaining one…

Hey No. 88, I know you just turned 40. So what? Get out the hair clippers, shave a couple lines on your dome for ol’ times sake and get ready to suit up! We may need you…

Im sad to see Key go, he was our best reciever the last 2 years, despite his low salary. I know the Pats want him, so I put the odds of resigning him low. I would welcome him back in a second, if TO comes here and causes a problem, everyone is going to be wishing for Key back. I drool over the posibility of TO on the field for us, but I think he and Key could have worked out. Glenn could have been moved into the slot where he is best and stretch the field along with Key running outs and TO going across the middle. Thats unstoppable.

Mawae signs with the Titans, the Brees-Saints deal is 6 yrs, 60 million. Marcellus Wiley was resigned by Jax LOL.

If TO couldnt deal with McNabb how is he going to do with Bledsoe? When Bledsoe holds the ball too long and doesnt get him the ball can you imagine the sideline fight? BP and TO might kill each other.

Bledsoe’s not a crybaby… He’ll give it right back if TO yells at him

Who got released first? KJ or TO?

TO

For the last time Keyshawn did the same thing to Bledsoe. After they made up and played their game.

TO

I don’t like the KJ cut, but I can understand the whole “testing the market” theory with hopes of having him back.

I am definitely against have TO on the team, although it seems as if the team just put itself way behind the 8-ball by cutting KJ. For all you TO fans out there, just think back to all the trouble he caused the Eagles. That guy was a royal pain in the ass. Just when that saga couldn’t get any worse, it did…repeatedly. It’s easy to have a short memory on TO, but the guy has always been a problem. To replace KJ with TO is a mistake and I’m surprised the Cowboys will do it.

ok ladies, lets calm down now…its more than obvious that t.o. will be a cowboys soon. and lets say if im wrong perhaps, at least we do know that the cowboys will be getting someone way better than 70 catches and 900 yards because keysh was due a 1million dollar roster bonus and lets be honest that aint nothin, hell thats a bargain for 70 catches and 900 yards. so lets be patient because its obvious we got something better than keyshawn comin soon.

Yes, but KJ doesnt then go to the media and rip Bledsoe, he just says they are competitiors and are over it.

Id love to know what Parcells is thinking right now…

Hell we rip Bledsoe already without TO.

Let me plant an idea and see what ya’ll think. ESPN reported that BP had advised Payton to sign Brees. Now that NO has done so what are the chances they trade their pick to us for #18 and a mid-rounder and we take either Leinart or Ferguson?

KJs release was obvious…all the $$$ that WRs are getting this past week there was no way he was going to play for $2.5 mill – KJ was a bargain, too much of a bargain as it turns out…this pretty much guarantees TO gets signed and Crayton will still get playing time

Didn’t saw this coming… If Dallas doesn’t resign Keyshawn, then I just can’t see T.O. being introduced, it would send a huge wrong message to the players, “Play for the best of the team in every way you can, going over the middle making though catches, blocking as if you were an extrta OLineman and be an example in and out of the field”.

I’d first go after a guy like Reche Caldwell or Jabar Gaffney and then I’d draft Stovall with the 2nd Rounder.

and keyshawn is not coming back

The Truth:

No Bledsoe is not a crybaby, but T.O. is. He’s the same guy who called the NFL racists because he got in trouble over the Sharpie incident. He put the 49ers on point with similar hot-button ‘labels’ because his agent didn’t file his FA papers on time and they could have kept him or traded him to the Ravens. I know how he works…I even admit I have been tempted to do some of the same things he has to get ahead in my career, although I have never gone there and proud of that fact. Difference is I work in a field where individualism is the norm and there is no team loyalties.

I feel my enthusiasm for next season slipping away. Key was my man, he’s an L.A. guy, and he was one of my favorite Cowboys players. It will hurt even worse if they replace him with that bitch. I feel deflated right now. I wonder if Parcells is feeling the same way right now.

Ever since Rosenhaus and Parcells had lunch at the combine, I knew something was brewing for the TO/Dallas saga to begin. Keyshawn’s departure is obviously bringing in TO…and there are teams out there that will want keyshawn’s ability to go anywhere to get the ball (Seattle, New England, San Diego maybe)…the list could go on, those just come to my head first. Besides, Denver’s owner has even said that their interest in TO is “overblown,” so they won’t push TOOO hard for him (especially if Jerry Jones offers TO the opportunity to get back at the Eagles twice a year w/ an incentive-laden contract)

Don’t forget…Keyshawn threw a couple of fits here in Dallas…and look what happened right after. He calmed himself and played it off, and him and Bledsoe forgot about it. Parcells will cut a guy in a heartbeat if he has problems with him (see Antonio Bryant, and see what’s abotu to happen with Larry Allen unfortunately). I think this will be good for dallas.

and for all you t.o. haters…yeah i hated t.o. but i really think the problems would be minimal if he came to dallas, jj has plenty of money to make him happy…parcells has the mean streak in him, and the players have the mentality, it could work,,,plus i really think the boy has learned his lesson.

All the TO worriers are right – this is an extremely talented guy whose downside is equal to his upside. He can tear the cowboys apart, or he can elevate that offense to levels not seen since the Triplets reign. Time will tell – let’s just hope BP & JJ pull the plug if TO even begins to get wacky – let’s hope they don’t wait to make sure he is.

So now we try and get Vinitieri – still our priority. The Boys will still have money for some other puzzle pieces: o-line, FS – depth.

Then comes draft day. If they draft right and the young players continue their development, and with the biggest if of all – TO behaving and signing Vinitieri – Dallas could become an extremely powerful, Super Bowl contender.

I know – that’s a lot of ifs.

Chandus,

TO does all everything asked of him on the field. It’s just that he’s a rude ass off of it that people don’t like.

I really want Viniateri in Dallas too…but I don’t think that’ll happen. Word on the street is him getting some pretty good offers in Green Bay to replace Longwell (where he’ll have to kick int he snow, which he has proven he’s good at), and other speculation says that Viniateri is just using whatever offer he gets from GB to use as a ground level for NE. I expect him to go back to one of those places, and the Cowboys to pursue Vanderjagt

And there has also been talk coming from Jerry Jones about trading down that draft pick, since there should be plenty of decent players the Cowboys would be able to draft there (abundance of safeties and offensive linemen)

And if TO pisses off Parcells halfway through the year and talks about the team in the newspapers and magazines, and hes suspended, forget about playoffs. We could make the Super Bowl with KJ, but TO is 50-50. We could make it if he keeps his head on, but until he proves it, theres always the gamble that he will do something stupid and get suspended again.

I hoping that cutting Campbell and now KJ Parcells is looking for another hands type TE to complement Witten. KJ was essentially a TE wearing a WR number. A two tight end set would help with some of the issues with the O-Line and fit BPs desire for ball control offense. We can get a good down field WR threat in the draft.

This is probably blowing smoke but I’m digging for any logic that does not include signing TO.

Msg. to "Redskins Suck” still LOL on your Synder comment

I think what everyone is forgetting is that the things that are being said about T.O. now are the same things said about Keyshawn when he came to Dallas and who could argue with the results now? Look at T.O.s first year with Philly, he was an angel then he got greedy and tried to talk his way out of town. He wasn’t looking to bring the team down just cause. He wanted money and they wouldn’t budge so he did everything possible to get out of his contract. If you pay them man he will shut up and play and he wont be a locker-room cancer. In fact at times, the Philly locker-room was more behind T.O. than McNabb. Should tell you something. Does he have a big downside? YES but only in given circumstances. If you know what those are you side step the pitfalls. Simple.

tipp007, This would be the first time that TO has learned a lesson.

No way we go for Vanderjagt, he cant kickoff and we wont carry 2 K’s.

mlf….come on now…
imagine, he has only wanted to play football since he could remember
then all of a sudden someone takes his dream away from him for the rest of the season!!! and pinches his pocketbook!!! did you see the sad look on his face in front of his house??? trust me he learned from that i bet you..

Dan Campell signed a 5 year deal with the Lions, they dont have enough TE’s or WR’s, good for them.

Cameron,

As it’s been said before, TO is not KJ. Totally different problems. KJ while full of himself, has had problems with two people, Chrebet and Gruden, and not nearly to the degree of which TO has been. TO is child like.

Cameron:

You’re a dreamer and make a lot of excuses for that bitch T.O.

Please, do those of us who are taking this Keyshawn thing kinda hard and DO NOT COMPARE T.O. to Keyshawn. The two as players may be similar, but as men they are 100% different in the way they go about their lives. Today is not the day to start up on that one.

Well I don’t know where our kicking position is going then this year…because I doubt that Viniateri is going to come to Dallas (who cares if its Bill Parcells here…kickers don’t care THAT much about coaching…do they?). I see Viniateri staying in NE…MAYBE going to green bay. And yeah lou, you’re right, I knew there was some reasoning why we wouldn’t get Vanderjagt, i just went braindead i guess.

Yeah, Keyshawn off the field is a better person than TO (remember the THanksgiving game special with him and the paralyzed kids? And he always gave his TDs to the kids in wheelchairs at the home games).

But from a football perspective, if TO makes his way to Dallas, expect better results on the field. If he blows up? The season blows up…but being a life-long Cowboys fan, and realizing that this offense isn’t getting any younger and won’t be around much longer, I’m game for it.

As long as Roy Williams is willing to knock his ass out if he plays on the star after a TD.

I think if T.O. Haters close their eyes for a minute and picture T.O. catching Touchdown passes in the SuperBowl for the Cowboys they would change their tune. The played for the Eagles on a freaking broken leg. He’s a gamer, he’s in top shape, he bust his but on every player UNLIKE Moss and allhe wants is the football thrown his way and money. How could he not work out in Dallas?

http://www.terrellowens.com/forums/index.php?s=5dd032ff6327472bf0d498b6dae527e5&showtopic=38639

TO is not a bitch… he’s been more successful than sterling could ever dream of… deal or no deal he still gets to chill in his mansion and not think twice about laying down a grand on something he wants… i bet he could also kick sterlings ass too… don’t think that’s much of a bitch

Tipp007, if we sign him I hope you’re right. If we don’t, I don’t care. Guys like him know how to pout at the right time, for the camera. Everyone is against him for no reason. No one understands him and he is always the innocent one. He causes the problems and then, when the press arrives, looks befuddled and perplexed at what other, mean spirited, people say and do in response. It’s game he has mastered. Don’t fall for it.

T.O. is such an ass. I almost would hate to win the bowl with him on the team. But then I think of the garden gnome in tears as we get the lombari trophy. OK – it’s worth it!!

I hate TO and I hate to lose KJ.

But now that we’ve cut KJ, we have to eitehr resign him for a fair market price, or else we absolutely must sign TO. We basically let go of one life raft to try to swim to another. If we lose them both, we’re screwed.

However, it could be strategic genius. By letting KJ test the market, and then by us matching the market, KJ could be more receptive to the idea of playing along side TO. We could have a situation where both KJ and TO are satisfied to be here.

Well guys, I’m pretty sure that the release of KJ was the cocking of the gun…the signing of TO will be the shot heard round the world…I don’t think it was sheer coincidence that KJ was released shortly after TO was. TO is all about perspective. If he signs now, some will be joyful, and others will try to play it off like they’re terribly disappointed, but deep down, I’m pretty sure once TO signs, those people too will be saying “Yesssss…” in Napoleon Dynamite fashion. Once the season begins, I’m pretty sure he will perform great. After this, who knows if this decision will come back to bite us in the ass…TO=instant gratification. Oh and my friend who lives in the Northeast tells me that the AM radio sports stations over there are saying that Vinatieri is most likely heading to big d…

Man, I feel almost exactly like I did a few years ago when my other favorite team the Lakers traded my favorite player away for a bunch of fools and kept the little bitch that everyone hated.

I’m still a fan of the Lakers, but it hasn’t felt like the Lake-Show since Big Daddy left. I can’t even watch the Heat at all, it makes me sick to see the Big Man in a different uniform.

I am starting to warm up to Kobe now because he is young and the future of my favorite NBA team. He has done all the right things lately, but I still know that all hopes of bringing another title to my team and my city left when the Big Man went to Miami. The team is now a one-man ego show, with high scoring Kobe games replacing NBA titles for us Lakers fans to feel “good” about, or at least not feel like we are pulling for a team that might now be second best in our city (which is debatable).

If Jerry Buss had taken a poll in L.A. of whether the young scoundrel Kobe or the aging Big Man should stay, the Daddy would have won it hands down. We could have built the team around him. Instead we got the ball-hogging gunner who threw guys under the bus for cheating on their wives. We’ll never build a team around him because no truly good player will want to play with him.

I know football is different, but this Keyshawn thing makes me feel exactly the same as I did a few years ago. The fans in Philly are probably laughing at us like we were laughing at them last year.

Look….I completely understand every Cowboys fan that doesn’t want TO because of the possibility of him ruining this team. Well, the defense is young, and will be around for awhile, and they will grow together and eventually become a successful, shutdown unit. They are growing solid. The offense, however, is different. The only real youth on the offense that can play is at running back. The Cowboys NEED to take a risk in bringing in a game-changing TO. He is something that has proven in the past to get a team to the playoffs and farther. If we don’t get into the playoffs or a Super Bowl in the next 2-3 years with this aging offense, then we will have to start all over with a new coach, and young QB and etc. This is the perfect fit for the given circumstances of our old offense.

It’s 4:35pm in Austin and 70degs. F.

I’m taking two Shiner Bocks and a cigar and jumping into the hot tub. Screw this TO stuff it’s given me a headach!

Go Boys!

The Truth:

Watch it with the personal stuff on me. You don’t know me and I didn’t get personal with you.

T.O. is a little bitch.

And I can and do dream real big.

You don’t know me, so I suggest you not go there with me.

Cash:
Nope, I’ve seen T.O. not doing very well, and at times looking real awful, 3 things that you take for granted with Keyshawn, while T.O. just brings one thing that Keyshawn can’t do, he can make something out of nothing.

1st.- Keyshawn usually gets the ball when going to the middle of the field, he rarely alligator armed the ball while he expects the big hit and at times he’s the one handling concussions to the tacklers.

2nd.- Keyshawn blocks in every passing play, even if the ball doesn’t go his side, he stands between the defender and the receiver and doesn’t allow him to go in support.

And 3rd.- Keyshawn is an example out and inside the field, he wants to win ball games first and foremost and that’s big. And when he’s wrong he goes to the media and accepts that he was wrong, remember his feud with Bledso? Later he excused himself to Bledsoe and went to the media and talked about Bledsoe being his QB and him being wrong.

Easssssy Sterling. Get a life!

it sucks when people get pissed off at each other on here…its just talking….jeez

hahaha sterling you’re silly

WOW Look at what the thought of TO coming here has done to all of us. We are starting to sound like TO talkin to the media to one another. I wasn’t on this blog when KJ got here (not sure if existed then), but I bet we would have all been saying the same things we are now about TO. Let’s everyone just chill (especially on each other) Bartender… another cervesa please, a Shiner Bock sounds great to me.

broken link – what did it say?

I am very leery of the TO situation.

We all know what he could bring, both good and bad. For his asking price and the chance you take, what kind of, and how many other positions could you address.

If we were in a position of just needing one piece to get to the big one, yea why not. We might be better served spreading it around.

We could get a free safety, tight end, and good receiver. All this and still have draft money left over and further shore up the O-line.

I am just as excited to see Dallas jump in the free agent frey as anyone. But let’s not forget that these first few days set the market and are usually too much money for too little. This is how the deadskins get in trouble every year even with all the talent.

I already miss KJ

Chandus,

TO has never been criticised for his play on the field. He blocks very well, will go over the middle and stretch the field deep. If KJ is so important, then why did we cut him over a 1mil signing bonus? I like KJ like everyone else but to think KJ is a better WR on the field, well that’s just plain stupid.

Why make it personal then? I didn’t call you out in a personal way.

You don’t know me, what I look like, all you know is what you read and that I like the same team.

We don’t get personal like that on this board. We keep things civil amongst us. If you don’t get that, then you will have problems.

The more I think about the KJ cut, the more I think its due to the fact that he and JJ could not agree on compensation. KJ was a bargain at $2.5 mil, particularly in light of whats been going on so far in FA. Let Key go figure out what his market value is, and then lets see if we pony up for him. I’d be a little surprised if we don’t.

Now it’s a debate on who’s a better person off the field? Is this for a spot for the Salvation Army or a Football team? Most could care less what guys do off the field half the time. Since when has the Cowboys become the Boy Scouts? Don’t get me wrong, I love charity but it has no place in a football discussion.

My comparisons to T.O. and Key are this, Keyshawn had a lot of people hatin, and I mean hatin when he joined the Boys, then he came to town and he changed a lot of minds cause he busted his ass and did what was asked of him. I don’t think too many would be calling T.O. a bitch if he did the same. In fact they would be wearing his sh!t if he blew up here. Have I hated T.O., absolutely cause he was tearing the Boys a new ass half the time but when presented the opportunity to turn the table on Philly and Washington I’d take him in a second. I don’t know about anybody else on this board but I don’t enjoy missing the playoffs every year and watching as the rest of the NFC East passes us bye and being treated like a second rate franchise by the rest of league.

BWHAHAHA, TO is coming to town and he’s taking Dallas to Miami. I await Sterling and the rest of the haters to apologize to TO when the cowboys make the playoffs this year. JJ, Bill, and TO are all the same. All have massive egos.

Another note, the eagles were not destroyed by TO. Mcnabb got hurt in Atlanta, and their season went down the drain. The previous season they made the super bowl……

I wasn’t getting personal… I was disagreeing with your claim that TO is a bitch… if you do make more money than him and you think you could beat his ass, then just say so and because I don’t know you I would have to believe you… chill out dude!!

I think the mistake we are all making is thinking TO was only going to cost us 2.5 million. The fact is, he was looking for an extension so that’s probably the main reason (that and TO) why he was cut.

KJ, I mean

The only thing on the field that KJ is better is that he has better hands. That and he’s probably a better H-Back, since TO at H-Back would be stupid as he would cause the defense more problems actually playing WR.

No one remembers TO tearful congressional inquiry testimony about Alzheimerâ€â"¢s do they, or his steadfast dedication to his sick grandmother. He is not as bad a guy as it seems and if youâ€â"¢re not made of glass the dumbass s@#$ he says should just roll off.

Well……..It’s a least good to some pumped Cowboys fans. Even if ther’re taking shots at each other.

Impatient,

I agree if anyone can defuse a media attempt at stiring the pot it’s BP.

I remember very well the best catch by Keyshawn. The play following the 2-minute warning in the Cowboys 43-39 come-from-behind victory over the Seahawks. Down 10 points, Testaverde passed to KJ at the 25ish yard line. He jumped high and caught the ball with one hand. On the way down, he was literally parallel to the ground before his feet touched inches in bounds. It was awesome!

last time i checked he had no respect for the cowboys…i can’t forgive him for the star incident

I’m no cap expert, but my biggest concern this season isn’t whether we get TO or lose KJ. It’s who will be blocking for Bledsoe and company. We missed out on the impact o-linemen in FA and rookies take time to develop.

We’re not getting Ferguson – hopefully Justice can slip. I don’t like any other o-linemen at #18 – and ferguson/Justice ar ethe only 2 I think can make impacts as rookies at tackle. The Boys have done nothing to upgrade this unit – now that’s a worry.

What if we signed Kevin Curtis? He was good last year with the Rams. TO would be more threatening, but Curtis would be cheaper AND younger. (27 vs 32)

Señores,

Keyshwan Johnson and Terrell Owens are just as difficult to deal with. Reid had a problem with T.O the same way KJ had with chucky…Billy Boy Tuna can handle that crap and make those big mouths pretty good players (or was KJ bad for us?).

We’re signing Hope, Vinatieri, Fabini and T.O. and our asses will be chilling and kicking it in Miami in February 2007. Just sit and relax and watch it develop my friends….ohhhhyesssssss……

Anyway, if T.O still gives is a problem we’ll get Larry Allen to sit on his a$$ and make him puke for three hours…

Also for all the talk about keyshawn being a parcells guy. Oops. TO blocks, runs through the middle. The only negative is TO’s dropsies.

mantab, i agree with you

if we get viniatieri, and t.o. and some protection to give drew time the boys will be superbowl hopefulls, i also must say the stupid skins are pickin up good people too

sierrareef:
As far as I know, Allen’s still onboard, so it’s likely that Kosier plays in the edge and he’s pretty solid in pass protection. Him being followed closely by Petitti, Rogers and Columbo and maybe even a nigh Draft pick could make for an upgrade at RT.

Cash:
I’ve seen T.O. with alligator arms while going midfield, it isn’t something that should be taken for granted, but I’ve seen him doing it much more than Key. I’ve also seen him toreando (bull fighting) his supposed blocking assignment.

But, I haven’t said that Key’s the better receiver, he’s better as a posession receiver.

TOs Agent and others:
You can write me off the list of fellows that would ask forgiveness to TO for my bad comments, I won’t, you can count on that. If he’s signed for a year, then I’ll keep seeing the Cowboys but I won’t cheer for the guy, I’ll cheer for Bledsoe, Glenn, Witten, Newman, Ware, James, Ellis, Williams and the rest of the team players.

Impatient,

I agree if anyone can defuse a media attempt at stiring the pot it’s BP.

Lets trade for Javon Walker or sign Moulds if he gets released.

You call Glenn a team player? You forget that he held out for over half of the year when the Pats won their first Superbowl only to try to come back when he saw that they were good… the Pats front office told him to go to hell and released him after the season… some team player

Hey Chandus,

Have you seen any of those 1700 yd recieving seasons and double digit Touch Downs from TO? While your aligator arms comment is nonsense, I’ll take it if I get that kind of production. If you are trying to say TO isn’t willing to take a hit, well your just dead wrong. In this case you can hate the player, but you can’t hate on his game and come away with a shred of credibility.

The Truth,

I dont think Glenn was holding out, if I’m not mistaken it was a dispute over the Pats wanting to get some of his bonus money back for getting a 4 game drug suspension. Maybe Raf can clarify that situation.

I agree Cuervo the Cowboys cannot bring T.O. to Dallas. He has no respect for the organization and if he acts up we will be the laughing stock of the league!
I agree Sterling T.O. is a Bitch!

1700 yards? Owens hasn’t had one, his best number is 1400 and that was 5 years ago. I don’t need to say that 5 years are 5 years, or 60 months, or 240 weeks, do you catch my drift?

Owens is still capable of getting over 1000 yards with a team that likes to throw the ball, Dallas isn’t one.

Guys, just signed in for the first time. Have been a Boys fan for 30 years. Definitely enjoy reading your posts. Hopefully I can add some interest for all of you. My thoughts on TO is this-he is the most talented and most FEARED WR in the league. Does he have MAJOR issues-yes. Is there any coach that can corral a troublemaker better then BP-no.Also, even though each and every one of us feel we know the game of football especially when it comes to Dallas, we are mear armchair QB’s compared to Jerry and Bill. Let this one play out.One way or the other, we will be fine. I personally know George Teague and spoke with him not to long ago about the star fiasco. He really enjoyed smacking TO. We had a great laugh! MGG has a prediction for 2006- Superbowl #6. Looking forward to being part of this great site!

Somebody, anybody, explain to me what is going on!

I cannot believe that the Cowboys released Keyshawn today. I don’t want T.O. and I have no idea that this means we are looking to sign T.O. Suppose the Cowboys are interested in signing him, suppose they don’t get him. We are falling farther and farther behind in the FA period.

Are you kidding me?!! Daunte Culpepper for a 2nd round pick? How many 2nd and 3rd round picks has Jerry Jones given up for failed baseball players?

I am disgusted. Yesterday, I watched that slobbering over-rated coach Joe Gibbs chuckling in his maniacal style about what a great owner he has “getting it done”. Why do the Redskins’ have two assistant coaches earning more than most head coaches in the league?

I am just about ready to give up on the Cowboys. I absolutely do not understand what they are doing!

and Cash, how many games of Philly did you saw in the past 2 years? Or do you just see the highlights? In the last couple of years, from the top of my head I saw the 3 games against Dallas in which he played, the Super Bowl, the Cleveland game (where I saw Henry doing a good job against him), the Atlanta game (this season opener) and the Denver game (his last with the Eagles).

And I saw him with aligator arms and toreando. But I can always be wrong.

Chandus,

There is no better WR in football than TO, talent wise. And KJ might not even be in the top 20. So keep on making your case buddy.

Chandus,

If you watched the Super Bowl, then you saw him catch 9 balls for over 100 yards on a broken leg. I don’t think you know what Alligator arms means perhaps? You are the only person I’ve ever heard talk down

Chandus,

sorry I it didn’t get everything………Chandus,

If you watched the Super Bowl, then you saw him catch 9 balls for over 100 yards on a broken leg. I don’t think you know what Alligator arms means perhaps? You are the only person I’ve ever heard talk down about his game, and it’s quite silly. Everyone here in my office is getting a good laugh. Keep it coming.

Cash
I would still take Moss over TO. TO can be stop with one guy it has happen but he is still the 2nd or third best out there. I want Walker and if Mia can get a pro bowl qb for a 2nd we should be able to get walker cheap. Maybe not because they got a lot more for Moss last year.

listen you guys, whoever the boys pick up is a cowboy and as a real cowboys fan i will back them no matter who they are.. so get over it and start getting on board for the long hall..,and not when things start going good…A REAL FAN FOR LIFE.

I 2nd that j.b

j.b.

truer word were never spoken…

mgg,

So does George Teague think TO should be a Cowboy or does he even care anymore? BTW give him a big bear hug for me for protecting our star and welcome to the gang.

The conversation happened way before there was any mention of TO and the Cowboys. My gut sas George dislikes TO!

I heard that

John Veniazo of the Pittsburgh Star reports Terrell Owens has signed a 4 year 30 million dollar contract with the Steelers. Reportly Owens also received a 7 million Dollar Signing bonus for his first year , which means owens will be making 14 million dollars his first year in Pittsburgh.

I Got it from 3 other boards so take it what it is worth…

I don’t know if the release of KJ is connect (at least in Jerry Jones’ mind) with the release of TO.

I don’t want TO. I think Jerry Jones must be an absolute idiot. I will never pull for the Cowboys wtih TO on their team. Hell, I would buy a ticket just to run on the field to knock the crap out of him.

Please!!! Do no sign TO!!!

Scooter,

You must not be a real fan, and I bet if you have been around a while you probably said the same thing when JJ bought the team, and when they let Landry go, and when Jimmy left, and when Troy retired, and when Emmitt left, and when, and when, and when…

Two words for ya son, fair-weather fan.

Cash:
As if I care about people laughing… There’re ignorants everywhere, highlights doesn’t say the whole story.

And in that SB game, one receiver outshined Owens, that was Branch.

BTW, broken leg sounds to dramatic, try ankle.

darknight08 (woo, I’m quivering)

I hope to God your rumor is correct. Let the Steelers take this cancer.

Scooter, obviously you are not a Cowboys fan to say you won’t pull for them if they sign a player you dislike.Jerry must be an idiot-he has 3 Championships. Also he is on Forbes list of appr. 750 Billionaires in the US. Some idiot! Wake up and smell the roses!

darkknight08,

Got a link for that story, went to their site and nothing there…

how about those touchdowns before the injury on their quest to the Super Bowl……..TO = TDs. Remember the Whitey Tigthies that andy reid was getting fitted for before TO was hurt. An injury he recovered from and worked out for and returned for the Super Bowl?

While we are out there looking for a TE…….guess what that is what KJ is an athletic fast TE that can block ok. Why not keep him………for less money. I don’t think he is going to garner a lot of money…….despite his numbers…..cuz of his age. He is Bill’s boy and he will be back in the fold for less money.

TO…..is an independent situation…….Jerry and Bill…..have the money and the smarts to make it happen. You sign this guy to a contract for production………badmouths a teammate on ESPN…….does not get a gamecheck……..regardless of his numbers………hit TO where he claims it hurts……his pocketbook…….

Name a player that played for Bill Parcells that has ever been the kind of distraction that TO was. LT? Not in the locker room…..did he have his issues sure……..KJ…not in NYJ or Dallas? Terry Glenn…..problems in Green Bay…quiet as the princess and the pea in Dallas….if our LT stayed healthy Drew and Terry would have been Pro Bowlers…….as it was he was a productive WR……..Antonio Bryant……..got into with BP……got cut…..we can all agree Cleveland got the better player…..but why didn’t they sign him.

All these bleeding hearts crying about AB? AB can’t carry TOs jock strap to practice…….TO runs routes…….TO blocks…….TO unlike Moss does not take plays off…….TO has never tested positive……by all accounts he is the vegeterarian workout wonder he claims to be……..

Anybody else ever get fired……..yet turned up elsewhere for more money and made a good career of it? Yeah guess what half the CEO, CFOs, VPs, and worlds most successful have had their issues………..TO can be a hemrroid if the coaching staffs of the Holmgrem tree…a guy that could not deal with Koren Robinson’s issues………neither Mooch or Reid handled TO……..ok…….now TO needs money….he was doing sharpie commercials…..what had Drew done for him lately?

is either of them Bill Parcells caliber…….

Bryan Cox

KJ

Terry Glenn

Antonio Bryant and Quincy Morgan

Lawrence Taylor

that is just a sampling of “troubled players” BP has had on his roster……some were very successful…….AB for QM maybe not so much……..still the point is had dealt with other peoples…….disciplined problems….and turned them into servicable players…..and sometimes Super Star Caliber players……..just cuz you got kicked out of one school…..does that mean you cannot go to another class where you might even become the teachers pet?

“Infamous” Dallas Cowboys

Hollywood Henderson

Larry Bethea

Nate Newton

Leon Lett

Charles Haley

Michael Irvin

Rafael Septien….hey is a kicker so he really don’t qualify but his offense was the worst EVER!!!

my advice……let the Cowboy who is without sin……throw the first stone. This is America, and the Cowboys are America’s team and last time I checked….a guy like TO gets a 2nd or 3rd chance. Whether it is here……..with success under BP coaching and JJ contract dealing……..or if it is a failure elsewhere under a less talented coach……who knows maybe Mike Martz wants him in Detroit to go along with the other stable or WRs………TO is going to play next year. We can win with or without him. Of that I am sure.

But anybody that saw what Bryan Cox did under BP and Belichek late in his career might want to say “what if” TO can have the same kind of autumn career………if so there will be plenty of Dancing in the Stars and Six Guns blazing…….Butch Johnson himself might have to tip his 10 gallon hat.

tos agent,
Just curious are you Cowboys fan?

The Truth,
Come on man.. you did get personal.. Just be cause Sterling doesn’t care for t.o. (which as you have seen on this forum, he is not alone) doesn’t mean you should attack him. Who cares t.o make more money than him… heck he makes more money than any of us, non-relevant to discussion. Now, I understand you like the guy, since he probably is the best WR in the league, and I would like to think that he has learned his lesson and if signed comes in and plays great and be a team player. BP is no Reed and the Cowboys players are not of the same mold as eagles. And Larry Allen will not back out/chicken out like eagles team ambassador did.
Bottom line lets keep the light on the issues not on each other.

T.O. will be a Cowboy. As much as I despise the guy, I will cheer him on, because I am first and foremost, A COWBOY FAN! I will root for whoever dons the uniform, for better or for worse.

Remember when Deion played for the 49ers? We hated him then, but the following year, he played for us and we cheered him on!

Baseball fans understand that more than anyone, because of the amount of player movement going on there. I will STILL root for THE TEAM!

Don’t count K.J. out just yet. I have a feeling he’ll be back, T.O. or not!

fear. if the boys sign TO they had better also sign a therapist who can also medicate him.

TO has reportedly been in 3 different cities today. That doesn’t even include Pitt. I’ll believe the Pitt story when I see it.
Bring TO here, along with his 12-13 TD’s.

mgg:

Wow, them roses sure smell good, huh? After firing Jimmy Johnson, your brilliant owner has desecrated this team. How much money do you think little Danny Boy Synder has? Someone, please, wake Jerry Jones up!!! The cap is larger now and the object is surely not to weaken your team which, at this point, he has surely done.

Terrell Owens is not just a player I don’t like, he is a player that, for me and many other Cowboys’ fans, did an unbelievable act of disrespect to our team with his basically taking a dump on the Cowboys mid-field star. How many Super Bowl rings does that piece of crap have?? I have watched NFL football for 40 years (all as a Cowboys’ fan) and am insulted by you suggesting that I am not a Cowboys’ fan when I say that I will not pull for them if they sign Terrell Owens.

Signing Terrell Owens would be the most incredible mistake in the history of the Cowboys (far worse than trading 2 number ones for Joey Galloway).

But, go ahead mgg, tell the world of how I am obviously not a Cowboys’ fan. I cried after the Ice Bowl you pompous idiot!!!

Scooter,
From what I understand, fore-skins basically auctioned their future. The way the signed all those FAs was to have them agree to have only one mil of their bonuses count this year so they could sign more guys… another word they are screwed come the next few years. Now I know that would break your heart.. It does mine too..

bring on to. I will be the first to order his jersey.

Fellows,
Everyone please take a chill pill… No reason to get personal.. Come on brothers.. We are all rooting for our beloved Cowboys.. Lets not forget that we are all in the same TEAM.

Scooter, I’ll say it again. Do you pull for a team or the players. Basically you are saying if you don’t like one person on a 52 man roster, who disrerspected OUR team, you won’t pull for the TEAM anymore. Have some more moonshine, dude!

Toast:

Suppose you were a Redskins’ fan. Wouln’t you just love it if they won the Super Bowl next year (they were a lot closer than us this year)? I live in th D.C. area and the local sportswriters are praising little Danny Boy about the deals he has pulled with his players about renegotiating their contracts. What success do we have in that regard with Larry Allen to this point? Can’t we swing that deal with one player. We just lost KJ.

Impatient

They place where i got it from says its just a rumor. He doesn’t have any info on it too, so I wouldn’t worry.

Scooter,

You might as well have crapped on our star with sacrilegious remarks like that and I am gonna be the George Teague to knock you off. Dont disrespect our TEAM! Hey TO never pissed in his coaches car.. Charles Haley did.

Thanks darkknight, I’ve been scouring the site lookin for the story

Hey scooter, now I want TO even more, if it gets rid of fair whether Cowboy fans like …….

mgg:

I pulled for Don Meredith and Perkins. They never won a Super Bowl. They have at least one thing in common with Terrell Owens and I hope it stays that way.

BTW, did you check Danny Snyder’s numbers in Forbes?

Scooter,
If you remember, danny boy has tried this stunt before with signing deion, and bunch of other high value players.. which below up in his face. Now I know they have signed some reasonably good players… lets take Randal el for example.. he wasn’t asked to carry the team at Pittsburg, he was a role player at best… not sure he can do the same thing with the skins.. They will be good, but not sure how much (if any) better than last year.

Scooter,

Go be a Redskins fan then… You’ve been singin their praises long enough. Plenty of very intelligent fans in here cant wait for the Skin’s to implode like we did in the salary cap hell of the late 90’s

just reported on nfl network that t.o. is on his way to dallas
publicist had no comment

Scooter, actually I didn’t see Snyder there, not that he didn’t make it. Jerry, if I recall correctly, is worth 1.1 bil. Pretty cool-do a Google search for US Billionaires.

to is on his way to the airport

Scooter, so are you saying that if we sign TO you don’t want Dallas to win a Superbowl?

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/10/40WD.html

Dan Snyder… didnt, make the top 1000

TO’s on a airplane, Parcells is in spring training, and Jerry is…?
Keyshawn’s in Washington?
But who’s at the “Ranch”?
Rowdy will host the press conference.

The Cowboys are one of the premier franchises in all of sports. We have a long history of excellence on and off the field and we have extremely passionate fans. I think that puts us in a position where we can be a little pickier about the free agents we sign in regards to how they will represent the team.

Mr. Owens talent is unquestionable. When he is on the field he is arguably the best WR in the game. Those of us that don’t want to sign TO are not ignorant of that fact.

All those who are clamoring for TO: When you watched the infamous game where he dissed our entire franchise, were you upset? Did you think to yourself: Gosh I’d love to see this guy put on the Silver and Blue?

Signing Mr. Owens is unquestionably a gamble, and frankly it is not one I am willing to make.

Furthermore, I’d have a hard time getting that excited about him lining up and scoring TD’s for us. If we won the SuperBowl with him, who would get the credit? IMHO, Mr. Owens would, and I’m not comfortable with that.

Everyone can have their 2-Cents, and if you want Mr. Owens then good for you. But please don’t question the loyalty of a Cowboys fan who would have trouble rooting for a player who disrespected the franchise.

I’m tired of not competing for SuperBowls. I want the ‘Boys to win as much as anyone. But let’s do it with dignity.

One last thing: Its been mentioned that Mr. Parcells met with Rosenhouse at the combine, and some assume from this that we are going after Mr. Owens. But Rosenhouse represents a lot of players.

Does anyone think maybe we could offer a draft pick, maybe even #1, for Jevan Walker who is also a Rosenhouse client?

Thanks for your time, GO COWBOYS!

Its gunna be tough cause i dont want to cheer for TO(can’t forgive him) but i will be cheering if he scores(as long as he’s got a star on his helmet.) But I also do think that those of you takin TO in with open arms arnt the greastest fans either because you’ll celebrate the man even after he disrespected the cowboys. All i have to say is he better have a really good apology if we get him and a couple suber bowl rings wouldnt hurt his cause either

http://www.kffl.com/player/1180/NFL

Viniatari is visiting Green Bay.

Nick Eatman is still promoting a “big bang!!” on DC.com.

Rafael,

Putting these two stories together, I don’t think Viniatari is the “big bang” the Ranch had promised. … Oh BTW Raf, if the site was doing good early this morning, how about 2 100+ comments threads!! Nice!! As always thank you for having me and others.

Anyone have a link to the story about TO on a plane or the one about the Steelers signing? I can’t find any of this anywhere.

Poke

Guys, please don’t get me wrong. TO pissed me off as much as anyone and I have never liked him or his antics. All I’m saying is IF he becomes a Cowboy I will root for the team and if he is helping us win, root for him also. Again, Jerry and especially Bill will not put up with any BS and I’d expect there will be some kind of claus in the contract where we can can his a s if he screws up!

drjeff no to then be happy with last place in the nfc east.

Poke:
Story was reported on nfl network

ER,
Is the big bang similar to Shuck and Awe? I hope it has the same effect.

Yeah toast i’m a cowboys fan. I’d also like to point out the poll on dallascowboys.com 65% of 11k want TO

mmg,
I agree with your assessment. I think t.o.’s contract will have lots of clauses. Basically, he will be walking a tight rope, with another rope around his neck.. Lets face it… he is not getting any younger and does not have many more years left on him.

TO’s Agent,
I am glad you are, my friend…

drjeff:

Be careful of your sketicism with TO. The folks here on this board are drinking all the Koolaid (and fetching it for BP, too). They will suggest, because I happen to be stationed in the D.C. area with the military, that I have magically become a Redskins fan and pull for THEM to win the Super Bowl. I never suggested such, but they jumped all over it with no basis.

“Impatient” accuses me of “singing the Redksins’ praises”. I guess it doesn’t really matter that I never made such a post.

“mgg”, who is new to the board but, like Howard Cosell, likes to tell us who he had dinner with (he personally met GEORGE TEAGUE) wants to boast of his 30 year support of the Cowboys (compared to my 40+ years) and then accuse me of not being a Cowboys fan.

Where was “mgg” during the Cleveland disasters, I wonder. (of course he has no idea about the Cleveland Disasters or what Mrs. Ryan said about Dandy Don).

Impatient:

Please, tell me how I “may as well have crapped on the Cowboys’ star”. Where did you get that?

Sterling I dont care for the Lakers…but how many championships have the Heat won with Shaq? Same as the lakers with Kobe.

Kobe has his issues…..but one of those two guys is in the gym practicing shots from downtown…..and the other is moonlighting for the Miami PD and one of the few in SouthBeach who has yet to try the Southbeach Diet……

Shaq ain’t exactly been the Franchise player he was in LA either…….which came first the chicken or the egg……..Kobe with Shaq or Kobe without……my guess is Kobe has as good a chance as getting your lakers back while the Heat are spinning wheels with expensive talent that still ain’t going to beat the pistons….something shaq and kobe couldnt do…….but then the NBA aint been interesting since 23 left Chi town……

Back to football……..

Nice to see the Pats continuing to lose players……Givens is gone daddy gone……

if T.O. wears the star,im pulling for him.does that mean im gungho for that to happen,no but i didnt want deion,kj,galloway but once they put on that star,their my boys.i am also a lifelong cowboy fanatic [30 years] and sometimes they piss me off but i could never go against my team and weather they sign T.O. or not will i never will.WE ARE THE COWBOYS

I believe Bill wants to go out a champion, but is not jeopardizing the franchise to do so. We are mixing young potential studs with seasoned vets and if they are all on the same page, we are golden. Man I HATE TO, but guys, admit it, he’s intriguing!

Scooter,
I am in the military as well.. Man… I feel for you living in DC. I have tried successfully to avoid it and praise God for it.

Impatient:

In post number 130, you said that I “may have well crapped on the Cowboys’ star with my sacriligeous remarks”. You were saying it about me, not me about you.

To all:

You see, TO is already doing his cancer routine on this board and we haven’t even signed him yet. Who cares if 67% of the “FANS” (AKA idiots) want this cancer?

Scooter, sorry, I’m only 43 so I wasn’t a fan then. For the record, even though I’m new and you’re a seasoned vet, I just questioned your loyalty because of comments you made, not me. And about George Teague, I know him very well as a friend and business partner. Don’t feel it’s the place to expand on that in this forum, but curious why you would attack that?

Scooter, again there you go. You are calling us, the fans, idiots if we don’t mind having TO. Maybe you are the cancer, not TO.

To all you T.O. fans that are claiming to know how everyone will react if we win a Superbowl…

If we win with T.O., I will NOT be sorry for wishing he didn’t come. The media will give him all the credit and say the Cowboys wouldn’t have been able to do it without him. Then he’ll say the same thing and things will just turn into a circus.

I will never forget when he celebrated on the star and will not overlook that just because he’s given the honor of wearing the Cowboys jersey. I will still root for my team and cheer whenever they score, but I will not be happy for him.

A lot of you T.O. fans are saying you didn’t like what he did to the star but you can overlook it. Question, if someone pissed on the grave of one of your loved ones on National TV just to make you mad, would you be willing to forgive them if they never showed any remorse? Same thing. So would you forgive him if he offered to buy you a car? Where’s you freakin self respect? You want the Cowboys to be the NFL whores that sell out and sign someone who publicly slapped them in the face just so they win. That’s not a fan.

For those T.O. guys that don’t care about what he did to the star, you definitely aren’t true fans IMO.

Sorry was eating dinner… I take offense that any true cowboy’s fan would not cheer for the Cowboys regardless of who the put out there. I cant look at that star on the helmet and root agaist them. While I agree with whoever said it would bring a lump in my throat thinking that if we won a superbowl next year, and they credited it to TO. That would soon be replaced at the joy and the pride of taking the overall superbowl lead in the league. I cant speak for having 30 or 40 years of fandom. But I can say that Dallas is my home town and I was brought to my mother in a Dallas Cowboys stocking(christmas time baby)almost 30 years ago:-(gettin old;-) I guess I get worked up after dealing with all the bandwagon fans that I have seen over the years. I take back my “root for the Redskins” statement. Was a lil harsh. But I bleed sliver and blue.

Who replaces Campbell?
Curtis?

mgg:

Don’t you think that in my 40+ years as a Cowboys fan, I might have “weathered a few storms”? There were times much worse than this. Folks thought that the Cowboys were losers during the years of the Cleveland disasters but I stuck with them and the reward in SB VI was all the sweeter. It meant something.

TO should never be a part of this franchises’ history. If he is, then something is very wrong, and they are no longer the Cowboys I grew up with. I don’t want him, and I will not pull for this team with him on the roster. That has nothing to do with being a “fair weather fan”. I passed that benchmark long ago. (I watched every play in a 38-0 loss to the Cardinals on a Monday night a long time ago and did not abandon them). There is more than a little difference between a Lee Roy Jordan, a Chuck Howley, a Mel Renfro, a Bob Lilly and an Emmitt Smith from the likes of TO. Do you watch the games?

I am glad that you are a friend of George Teague. That is nice. He will forever be my hero for unloading on TO afer his antics at midfield on the Cowboys’ star and I would appreciate it if you passed my admiration for what he did on to him.

As a Cowboy fan, I will root for anyone wearing the star on the helmet…..Ever since free agency began, I have watched players and coaches go from the cowboys to hated rivals….you can’t say that you hate a player, because he could be on the team someday…cowboy’s fans usually have big egos (just like TO)…so i say, bring on TO and bring on the playoffs…how about them cowboys.

GENTLEMEN,I WOULD BET THAT THE 1ST TIME T.O SCORES A TD WE’LL ALL BE SCREAMING THAT HE IS THE BEST,THIS BLOG WILL LIGHT UP WITH PEOPLE SAYING I TOLD YOU SO’S AND IF HE PULLS IN THE GAME WINNER AGAINST THE DEADSKINS WE’LL ALL BE GOIN CRAZY.LETS JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

By the way, I’m extremely jealous of all the Boys fans in the Dallas area. I live in upstate NY and have yet to see the Cowboys in Texas stadium. Hopefully sometime soon that will happen!

Impatient:

Get the hell off your horse about a “true” Cowboys’ fan! What the hell do you know about being a true Cowboys fan? If you would accept the piece of crap that is TO on the Cowboys’ roster, then you have no friggin’ idea about what a “true” Cowboys’ fan is. Joy and pride after a Super Bowl win is all about doing it the right way with the right people. (I’m sure I’ll hear a lot about that, hee hee!).

Scooter,

Calling people “idiots” really goes to your point!!

Scooter,

Sounds like I hit a nerve… haha

Scooter, I haven’t missed a game in years, buying the NFL package was a dream come true for me. Believe me, I have pictures of me when I was 9 and 10 in Cowboys gear and the way my soon to be ex-wife told me she was pregnant with our first child was she gave me a newborn Dallas outfit. I know we are both fans, just with a few different views!

mmg,
I am from Dalls… There is no place like it in the world. Unfortunately I am currently stationed in Hawaii. But I do intend to retire and live in Dallas.

MGG,I LVE IN MARYLAND AND I FEEL YOUR PAIN BUT I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GO TO MY 1ST GAME IN BIG D [CARDS] AND IT WAS LIKE GOIN TO HEAVEN.WHEN THE CHEERLEADER TOOK THE FIELD AND THEN THE COWBOYS ,I TEARED UP AND WHEN WE FOUND OUT EMMITT WAS JUST 30FT FROM US, MY SECTION WENT WILD,HE STOOD UP AND WAVED TO US. IT WAS THE BEST TIME I EVER HAD AND THE FACT WE KICK THE CRAP OUT OF THE CARDS WAS TOPPING ON THE CAKE.

Poke,

The report was that Owens was headed to the airport and when his publicist was asked if he was headed to Dallas, he responded “no comment”.

Clarrence Hill of the Star Telegram was interviewed on ESPN-News and after that interview about “Owens to Dallas” the reporter ended with …. “I think I’ll be talking with you again soon.” .. I think its a done deal!

Scooter,

$1000 bucks says you will jump out of joy once Bledsoe throws for 40 yards to T.O. to beat Philly my friend…

I hate the bastard too but the MF can play man…he can play better than KJ by far and Parcells can manage that SOB into a little puppy…

OR ICEING,LOL

manster65,

Get off it already with saying how everyone will react. I will be happy when a TD is scored, but I will not be happy it was him. Please don’t profess that you know how everyone will act. I accept the fact that some people love the idea of T.O. being here. Have the courtesy to accept not everyone will like it, even when he wins a game for us. We can like winning and still not like the fact that he was instrumental in it.

manster65, my favorite game I was at was opening day in Pittsburgh around 96 or 97. They were favored by 7 and we kicked the crap out of them by 20 or so!

BLITZ,LIKE I SAID,LETS JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

All good points….We are all Cowboys fans and want to see the team win..I miss the playoffs and I miss winning..You gotta take a chance and if it pays off great…If it doesn’t, nothing lost but a little money…Let’s roll the dice and see if we can hit snake eyes

MGG,THAT GAME ROCKED,WE KILLED THEM

mgg:

Yeah, I pay the money for DIRECT TV for NFL Sunday Ticket. I also got back to the states (D.C. area) 18 months ago after two years in Spain. Yeah, I watched the Cowboys at 2 and 3 in the morning on AFN every time they were on, having to trudge into work a few hours later with almost no sleep. My least pleasant memory was JJ’s great 2nd round bargain QC losing to the Texans in their (the Texans’) first real game. The same JJ, it looks like, who is ready to pounce on the big Cancer.

I have been able to take in a few Cowboys games live in Texas Stadium as well as the Cotton Bowl over the years. I’ll never forget the cannon of an arm that I saw on Craig Morton when he was warming up yards away from me before his shoulder was torn out that season in the away Atlanta game when he was the runaway NFL passing leader at the time.

it gonna funny to see the stadium celebrate the first TO touchdown….he’ll obviously run to the middle of the field to the star…je je je je….the guy’s a shmuck..

Just to clarify: I don’t think that those of us in the “Don’t Sign Owens” camp will be turning in our “Cowboys Fans Official Membership Cards”. I think that we will have trouble rooting for Mr. Owens and would like to see us win without him. Please don’t assume that we will root against the ’Boys with Owens on the team. Most likely we will either hold our noses and cheer or wait until he leaves to fully embrace the Cowboys franchise again.

Nobody has suggested that they will jump ship with Mr. Owens on board. But I will say that I can’t be sure that I will be that excited about the upcoming season with Mr. Owens as a Cowboy.

Let’s win without him. We can, and I believe that we will.

you wouldnt be insulted by him goin to the star again?

That Houston opener was a nightmare to me also. I remember I was in Atlantic City in my hotel room watching the draft when we drfted Carter. I started drinking heavily from that moment on. I think that was in my mind, the worst draft choice we ever made.

Now that keyshawn is gone, I think we have to sign T.O.

drjeff:

Nice points, but it is unlikely that we can claim a win without him when he is a starting wide receiver.

He is simply not a player that I want on my team – no way, shape, nor form.

Carter was a bad one, but I remember a TE in the 1st round that sounded a little French that turned my stomach….Another TE, Spanish guy, was in that draft and he’s been to every pro bowl since then……….By the way, TO wants to be a star and no place better to do it than in Dallas….I also think that people don’t understand how close TO and the playmaker are…..i think that michael would make sure that TO stayed on the same page with the team.

aw,

Moss is a one trick pony, who is as Chandus is trying to describe TO. If he isn’t going deep Moss isn’t playing hard. He isn’t Shannon Sharpe doesn’t even call him a WR but an athelte who plays the position. Simply because Moss relies on his physical abilities to get deep and out jump everyone. His route running is suspect. And if you’ve noticed his production has slipped since his chronic arche injury has flared. Unless Moss begins to study the game he won’t be around much longer. Owens plays well in every facet of the game.

Chandus,
Owens broke his lower leg. The ankle is a joint not a bone.

Or KJ again

Sorry I those comments I attributed to Shannon Sharpe actually go to Sterling Sharpe.

TO might be a cancer, but even cancer can be cured. He’s the best WR in the game right now and BP will keep him under wraps. He did with Keyshawn. We’re a completely different team with him on the field and I hate him as much as anyone. You can’t deny his talent though. Julius would benefit the most from the acquisition.

Go Cowboys!!!

I don’t want TO.

I will celebrate like a mad man every time he scores, and groan like a old man every time he hurts the team with his antics. My hope is that he will do the former more often than the latter.

Poke

Scooter:
saying that you won’t “pull” for the cowboys just because of one player, even if it is T.O. shows that you are not a true fan of the orginization that is the DALLAS COWBOYS.

whatever happens… happens. all this banter will soon be forgotton, especially with a Superbowl win. I hate TO. Always have. Us fans do not have any say whatsoever in bringing TO to Dallas. Let’s hope not, but if he does.. we’ll hope for the best. Hopefully there will be a clause in his contract about behavior on and off the field to keep him in line for his bonus.

it is what it is

ManTab:

I’ll spare you your $1000 as I know I will never be pleased by anything that TO does, anywhere. I despise him. He is the poster boy that a Knute Rockne would put up as an opponent to inspire the opposing team.

Besides, the guy is 34 years old and his wheels are still more than a little in question after RW’s tackle. A tall, skinny player like him, needs quickness. Without quickness, he is nothing more than Eddie George running in sand.

Everyone was saying the same thing about KJ went we brought him in and now everyone is singing his praises. He was a complete A$$ is Tampa and he was perfect in Dallas. The Cowboys will be fine. I just hope we can get Vinatieri and another offensive lineman.

I would bet that this entire discussion already took place a couple of years ago, except it was
on an eagles blog. We all talked trash about how stupid they were. Take a look at this thread. This guy is trouble. I’m not giving up on the boys for signing him, but it doesn’t mean I have to believe it is the right thing to do. The fans in philly got exactly what they asked for. We will get the same. I hope more than anything I’m wrong.

If we get TO, I’ll cheer for him, just like I cheered Antonio Bryant until he was cut, thats the homer in me, just like I dont care who the Skins get, I’m going to hate them all as long as them have a Washington jersey on. If not, I dont care if he goes to another team, like the Broncos. We can win with him, we can win without him. I heard he has already said he wants a big contract, if thats the story hes out of the picture and KJ is back in. But JJ wont let KJ sign somewhere else if TO isnt signed, it doesnt matter if Owens was coming in the next day to sign a contract. We cant afford to lose both, then we would be looking at a 1-15 team.

I’m more concerned about the line and the kicker. If Vinateiri signs elsewhere we could be in trouble, and I still dont like the look of the line even with Kosier signing.

manster65,
OK, I can see why Owens doesn’t bother you. You’re just as arrogant (or is that ignorant) as he is if you think you know how everyone will act.

You’re right. We will see. If you read a post from me cheering for him the first time he scores, remind me of this and I promise you I will apologize for this posting.

If we bring in TO and we’re 10-6 or 11-5 next year then I’m sure everyone will be fine with it. He’s 34 and still better than almost 99% of receivers out there. This time tomorrow it will all be over. TO will be signed with someone.

drjeff,

Scooter said that very thing, see post 100 & 112. Every fan is entitled to want or not want TO but to say you cant root for them because of it is where I draw the line. I will debate with anyone on TO’s worth. I can see both sides and 67% me wants him here…

It sure would be nice if the big bang is Vin and Owens. That’s a very nice upgrade.

Guys TO is 32

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1290

BLITZ,YOU CAN COUNT ON IT!!

natedgr8:

C’mon, man. Read the posts. I don’t need any crap about what a “true” fan is. I’ve paid my dues.

Scooter,

I hate the guy just as much as you fo man…he was a niner and then an eagle….and always an a$$. But the MF can play. And he was doing pretty good last year before getting thrown out even without talking to half of his team.

Ranchreport is saying “Jerry knows something”. They say it is obvious that Jerry would have not cut KJ unless he was sure he could land TO. They also say it will take time until JJ and Rosenhaus get the deal put together.

manster…fair enough.

T.O may get us an extra TD a game, but at what cost? I’ve got a bad feeling about this. Bye Keyshawn.

now if we get T.O and Rob Pettiti is still our right tackle, Drew wont be alive to throw him the ball. We need Fabini or something as well. We need lineman to protect Drew or else we will be the same $hit we were last year

I uld be happier if the big bang is an OT and TO….I would rather sign Olindo Mare (asked to be released) than Vinatieri. Probably just as good (keep in mind he kicks from the dirt half of the time) and would be cheaper.

anyone read on www.ranchreport.com

how jerry jones has a secret? i dont have access to it so i couldnt read it…if anyone does let me know whats up.

josh, what could possibly happen. you got a bad feelin? why

Correction:

The results of a Google search show that T.O. will be 33 on Dec 7th. Hey, is he younger or older than Carroll Dale or Max Magee in their Super Bowls. The contest starts now. Personally, I would rather have Jurevicious (spelling).

Well I have been a fan for over 40 years as well. I do not like Terrell Owens. I do not like any player that believes they are above the game. That means Cowboy or Saint. Will I cheer for the Cowboys with T.O.? Yes. I worry like many that he will cause more problems than he will cure. I hope I am wrong. It does look like he will done the Silver and Blue. T.O. is an excellent football player and if he is ready he will be a plus for our offense. He is over 30 however and that worries me as well. We had two over 30 receivers last year and looks like we will have two and maybe three this year. The chance of them being hurt and missing part of or all of the season is good. I find it disappointing that we have to engage in personal attacks to be able to make our point. I will miss you KJ and I hope you find your way back to the star in Dallas. And Terrell if you come to Big D please find a way to endear yourself to the fans, because this may be your last opportunity to leave behind something other than a reputation for being a cancer. Just the musing of a long time Cowboy fan.

tipp, it just says JJ would have not made the decision to release KJ unless he knew he could sign one of the best receivers in the league…..it also says it would take some time for it to get done…..

Scooter,

Jurevicius already signed with Cleveland. If we can pick players off other teams, I want Steve Smith.

Maybe we should invite some Eagles fans to this board. They would be sure to sing TO’s praises (hoping to pass the cancer on to us). Wake up, wake up. This is a disaster if the Cowboys sign this clown.

Tipp,

See the niners and eagles after TO’s path of destruction. That is the worst that could happen. The reason he is so dangerous is because of the superior talent. Everyone expects the storybook ending, but, he is yet to show himself capable of turning it around.

I JUST FEEL THAT A T.O. SIGNING WOULD’NT HAPPEN W/O BP LETTING IT. I WOULD’NT WANT ANY OTHER COACH IN THIS SITUATION.PARCELLS AIN’T REID.

If we could pick players off of another team, I want Chad Johnson.

Impatient:

I well know that J’ius already signed with Cleveland. My point is, why didn’t we sign him and get rid of all this crap about TO? .. and keep KJ at WR since we aren’t really hurting at WR?

And thanks for not answering about my post about your number 130 and then turning around and “interpreting” two of my posts to mgg. Nice touch. I invite all to read those posts critically.

LMAO actually I want Walter Jones… Then gimme anyone but TO ;-)

I understand all those TO haters – I’m one of them. But I can’t relate to some of the comments I’ve read here.

First, the insults between some of you guys seems like wasted emotions to me.

Second, since being haters is being discussed – let me share my hates.

I hate the Eagles, the Giants, the Redskins.

I hate the lack of sportsmanship and class that so many professional athletes now display.
 
I hate the large numbers of players who want all the attention because they did their freakin’ job.

I hate how athletes hold their team’s hostages while they hold out for more money.

I hate that the contracts Troy and Emmitt demanded helped us lose so much of our 1990’s talent and prevented the Cowboys from getting a few more Super Bowls.

I hate that jimmy Johnson brought trash-talking, self-promoting players to what had been a class organization under Tom Landry.

But I love the Super Bowls he helped Dallas won. I loved the way the Tripletts played together. I loved watching Dallas kick ass.

I love the Dallas Cowboys. It’s you and me that are loyal – not the players – they follow their money (with few exceptions).

So TO stomped on the cowboy logo – he was an Eagle/49er – he should hate everything about the Cowboys as an Eagle/49er. This whole blog has disrespected our rivals because we hate them.

Big mouth, over-paid selfish players are on every team. Some folks love that crap – I hate it. If TO becomes a Cowboy, I’ll cheer for my team. See, I’m selfish too. I want my team to have the record for most Super Bowl wins. I want my team to have the next undefeated season.

So do your TO hatin’, keep pissin’ and moanin’, then suck it up. Professional sports are filled with these type of jerks – the Landry era of class and dignity is over. Long after TO leaves (if he comes), we[’ll judge this era by how many wins and championships Dallas won – not by the jerks who helped us win them

I answered that post and you told me to get off my high horse…

SIERRAREEF,GREAT POST

Sierrareef,

I agree whole-heartedly. And, there is no comparison between Jurevicious and TO. That’s like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes.

Big fat second to that sierareef

sierrareef, well said. Ditto at this end.

Sierareef…I think nothing else needs to be said…that was perfect!!

I never thought I would see this here. Does anyone actually have a memory? Your right, this guy has done nothing but positive things for organizations. The eagles, niners, and ravens hatred is ignorant. you should check out the giant, redskin, and philly boards. They are cheering us on. They disease which you suffer from is “BLIND Ambition”.

sierra reef:

Wow! You should get a job as a sportswriter. What a fan! I mean that seriously. I agree with you when you bemoan the jerk me, me, mes who have come to dominate professional sports. Do we really need to give up your “Landry era of class and dignity”? Personally, I think not. Teams can still win Super Bowls without the likes of anyone close to being the jerk that TO is. We, as fans, should draw the line on what we should accept and yet we have no say in the matter. Johnny-come-latelys just want to win a Super Bowl in a “win now at any cost era” without any regard to what it meant to win a Super Bowl with the likes of people like Bob Lilly. I am afraid they don’t even have a clue. I have been trashed by several people on this board about not being a “true” fan. Every time I read that, I am stunned by the ignorance, arrogance and simplicity of their reasoning. I want the Dallas Cowboys to win more Super Bowls, but I want them to win them the right way. I don’t want them chasing after the epitome of “star” losers that Howard Cosell would have enjoyed having dinner with.

sierrareef:
You mostly nailed it. Thanks.

Jon B (re: 118):
He may be before your time, but don’t forget Lance Rentzel on your list of “infamous” Cowboys.

JJ haters:
Don’t neglect Duane Thomas on any list of Cowboy miscreant cancer head cases. He preceded the two JJs by what, 20 years?

Sierareef you rock. I couldn’t have said it better. How many of us were sick to our stomaches when Calvin went and played for the Redskins? I was upset by the hiring of Bill Parcells because he coached the Giants. I respect his coaching ability and his coaching style, but everytime I look at him he is wearing a Giants jersey. Even though I see him as a Giant, it does not preclude me from appreciating his ability and what he will do for the Cowboys.Just the musings of a long time Cowboy fan.

Josh:

Right on, man (so 60’s)! Every team that has had experience with TO and every team that hates us the very most are cheering us on to sign this jerk. I have been sending posts frantically to this board in the hopes of getting people to wake up. TO is not only the most arrogant, selfish player in professional sports, he is also the most over-rated and like Jimmy Johnson said about QC – a “coach killer”. No, no, no and hell, no!!!

Cash:
I remembered that he injured his ankle, so I looked it up and yes, it was an ankle sprain, that’s even less dramatic than a broken leg. I’ve had ankle sprains, actually 3 and once I separated my ankle, it really hurts, but you can go through it if your feet is well bandaged.

BTW, you didn’t read my comment properly, I said that Keyshawn is a better posession receiver, Owens is a better receiver all around because he can be a posession receiver and can also break for long gains. I thought that I had left that clear… I just thought that I didn’t needed to write more…

Cowboys | Team ready to visit with McGinest
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:30:31 -0800

Patrick McManamon, of the Akron Beacon Journal, reports talk from Boston is the Dallas Cowboys are getting ready to visit with free agent LB Willie McGinest (Patriots).

here’s hoping they sign him. too bad they didn’t get mawae, he was cheap too

Folks,
I repeat…
T.O. is at the end of his rope… His contract (if signs with us) will be one laden with clauses… which will have him walk a tight rope and one rope around his neck. He is almost 33… he will (hopefully) not jeopardize whatever career he has left, since nobody else will pick him if he tries previous shenanigans. And if he does, BP will yank the rope around his neck so quickly, he wouldn’t know what him. P.S. I too HATE T.O. I hated Deion also before he signed with us.

drjeff,
Rosenhausen is not Javon Walker’s agent anymore.

Stop crying about T.O. coming to Dallas. 1st of all we dont know where he’s going. 2nd If he does come to Dallas, that’s a big threat to any defense. If he does start his B.S. , the 1st sign we should cut his ass. A lot of players have created problems with one team and finished their career with no more. None of us can predict the future. Keyshawn Johnson did similar stuff. (Not as bad) Hell… look at Latrell Sprewell , Rasheed Wallace , Charles Haley etc. , etc. Yeah T.O. disgraced the star, but he wasn’t a Cowboy. What was he suppose to do….kiss it? Lots of players play on one team with hatred for another, but when they go to the next team, that’s the team they stand for. I’m suer when Deion Sanders and Charles Haley played for Frisco (our #1 rival at the time) They hated the Dalles Cowboys. A few years later they became Cowboys. It’s part of the game !!!

Toast, Here we go again. The argument offered is that TO thinks like a rational person. Please show me one thing he has done to make me believe he is capable of making a mature decision. Sure, behaving would be the smart thing, but so would being paid well to play on a superbowl contending team with a good QB and excellent defense.

Oh wait, he had that on the eagles.

seirrareef,

Sorry, I guess I’m not as easily impressed as others. You got on your soapbox, so if you could step down for a second, I’d like to step on and sound off. I respect your post and think it does have some good opinions, but I don’t agree with you saying everyone on this blog has disrespected our rivals. I have never disrespected any football organization just because they weren’t the Cowboys.

You throw around the word hate a little too lightly IMO. I don’t hate any NFL team or any player in the NFL. Never have, never will. That includes T.O. I can’t stand the thought of the guy being on the team because I can’t forget what he did to the star, but I don’t hate him for it. These players all have families and stories of their own. Don’t try to justify your hatred by saying it’s all of us.

I hope you don’t try to say that this makes me less of a fan because I don’t hate a group of professional athletes that don’t wear a Cowboys jersey. I’ve been a Cowboys fan for over 30 years, but I’m also a fan of the NFL and appreciate every bit of effort and entertainment that these players provide. I mean damn man, even the players pray for a member of another team if he’s severly hurt so don’t you think hating people is a little extreme for someone who has nothing at stake but bragging rights to who’s team wins the most trophies?

Toast:

I always liked Deion. His play, before and after the Cowboys, always said: “Here I am, throw the ball my way or punt the ball my way, if you dare”. That’s straight up a great player reveling in his talent to play the game. It had nothing to do about taking a dump on other teams. Contrary to some posts we have read, TO’s game has never been about “I’m a 49’er or I’m an Eagles player and I hate the Cowboys”. Hell, there have been thousands of other 49’er and Eagles players! Did Joe Montana, Steve Young, Donovan McNabb and Wilbur Montgomery ever feel a need to highlight their greatness (and hatred of the Cowboys) by taking a dump on the Cowboys star at mid-field? Did Bob Lilly, Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett, Roger Staubach and on and on ever feel that need? C’mon! All this crap about this guy being the greatest receiver in the game. It never was true and it most certainly is not now. Getting headlines for your antics does not equate to being a clutch player game in and game out. That is the kind of player we need. We don’t have a need for publicity to sell tickets. Signing TO would be the greatest mistake in Cowboys history. Bill Parcells tame him? You must be kidding! This jerk made his bed and now he must lie in it. Let him go and destroy another team if another team is so stupid. No, no, no and hell, no!

New thread is up, folks. This one’s about to burst.

scooter:
like yourself, i’m a 40-year+ ‘boys fan, having attended my first cowboy’s cotton bowl games – fresh out of diapers – with my late father.

it dawned on me when reading your above post re: how you’ve been “sending posts frantically to this board…”, that that is indeed a futile undertaking. not a single opinion on this board matters in regard to t.o.’s signing…not one. the 2 men/opinions that count will make the decision whether or not to pull the trigger on the deal. personally, i dislike t.o. immensely, but for me, the whole star “desecration” incident ended the moment george teague stood over the prone anti-hero, as the newly appointed sherrif of texas stadium; smoking six-gun in hand, villain at his feet.

in respect of your opinion, once again, it’d take a chuck manson halftime tribute and the replacement of our beloved star with a swastika for me to turn away from the only sports franchise that i’ve ever been completely loyal to…one player could never do it. period.

peace.

Post 234 – Scooter.

Now that my friends, is a good post! Maybe you should be the sportswriter.

Question for every fan who has kids and is in favor of bringing in T.O. If your kid has a chance to win a gold medal and asks you if he/she should take an enhancement substance that may have severe side effects, what do you tell them? Do you hope they do just so they can win? How is that different than wanting the Cowboys to win a Superbowl with an injection of a player that may be detrimental to the teams future (or even present)?

I have to tell you guys it’s great to be part of this extended family. I’m up in Canada and let me tell you, Cowboys fans are few and far between.

Not sure why we’re harping on each other. It may happen, but as it stands, TO still doesn’t have a star on his helmet.

And I’m not pretending to know how you will react if and when he gets signed but:

*How will you feel once he scores his first TD?
*What happens if the season goes off without a hitch and he has a great season?
*What happens if he gets signed and makes what could be seen as a sincere appology for desacrating the star?

Truth be told, as much as we all hate TO, none of these questions can be answered until a) he get signed and b)the season unfolds.

Not sure what my take is on this yet. On one hand, I wish it would have been Woodson that hit him instead of Teague (probably would’ve crippled him), on the other hand it maybe a blessing in disguise that it wasn’t a career ender.

As for calling ppl out and saying that they aren’t true Cowboys fans is just plain silly. The beauty of this type of forum is that we are all entitled to our own opinion.

So, all this having been said bring on Vinatieri, McGinest, Hope, etc. Let’s all have a little faith and see how free agency plays itself out.

Yeah, T.O. is over-rated!! That is it! …. P-L-E-A-S-E!!!!

You can call him a “jerk” or a “cancer”, but one thing is for sure, this guy has busted his a$$ to get where he is at. Owens is a great football player!! You can’t take that away from him!! If you are quick triggered to call him this or that, at least respect how hard he has had to work to create his image of “T.O.”!!

.. I have posted this before, but it is good enough to post again. Michael Irvin said it best about Owens. Irvin described his NFL expierence as PLAYING FOOTBALL with a chip on his shoulder. Irvin said he sees T.O. playing with the same chip on his shoulder, but also sees Owens LIVING LIFE with a chip on his shoulder. .. Owens has certainly put himself in this corner where people call him a “cancer”, but I have always felt that he is misundestood by many. He is an extremely hard worker, and that can not go unnoticed. Coming from a place he had to live life with a chip on his shoulder just to by, Owens got by and also rose up. This “chip on his shoulder” is what has driven him to become the phenom “T.O.”. When scouts or coaches said that he “couldn’t”, it just drove him more. What I mean by “being misunderstood” is this “me versus the world” mentality is all he knows. Its what has brought him his successes as a football player. It is hard to change that mindset … but Owens work ethic tells me that there is more to this guy … and Parcells preaching of TEAM may be the thing to knock that chip off of his shoulder. Parcells has a way to getting to the deeper side of players like Owens. … Heck if I know one thing about life, what makes a man a man is what he learns by going through some mistakes.

Blitzkrieg

OK – you got me, my message was overstated. In truth, there are more good fans and players than there are bad ones. I have no doubt that you’re one of them and, like you, I don’t have hatred for any players or teams – I was just trying to make a point.

If I offended anyone else, I apologize, that was not my intent.

anybody remember what Parcells mentioned about Clarett last year…..whom we might have had if Denver had not……he said that is a player that does not have any options……..he is against a wall…….

Bill is part shrink, part coach, part motivator, part stand up commentator, part salesman and part size 12 up your hind parts…….

imagine if TO comes here…….shuts up and Plays. Hech if he was smart he would pull another of our infamous players stunts……Cowboy Bert I don’t remember Lance off the top of my head but then he may or may not be before my time…….at any rate……what if TO has the turnaround. What if they guy shuts up….puts up TDs…..and stays away from Michael Irvin and ESPN. Nothing against Mike, but he is working with the mediots these days.

What if all he does is come to Dallas and play football for the Franchise and for one of the most respected coaches. What if……

I ain’t a fan of TO. I didn’t like the Dance on the Star…..hech I could not believe Ray Lewis did not take his head off when he did the dirty bird dance in the end zone……..

Owens is opportunity…….you don’t find opportunity like Owens everyday in sports……

do those against TO really think he can be a cancer that destroys the Cowboys? Eagles lost their Starting QB, refused to pay Westbrook much money…..did not have another legit RB, and had injuries on the offensive line…….

After the run they had…..they were due to have their wings clipped. Dallas Washington and NYG were getting better and were no longer the stepping stones to the playoffs we once were. Hey Andy Reid…..wake up and smell the coffee you ain’t coaching against Dave Campo, Jim Fassil and Steve Spurrier anymore……..you got Gibbs, Coughlin, Parcells…..not too mention all the assistants……

Gentlemen….and Ladies……the NFC East is back. It is always the Conference……even in bad years cuz it is Washington, Dallas, NY the igglies. But seriously…..this division is the black and blue Super Bowl producing division it was in the early 90s.

If it was the Early 90s and we all had the Chance to SIGN CHRIS CARTER……the troubled Eagles WR from the Ohio State University……would ya? look how that turned out for Minnesota…….Buddy Ryan had him……remember……Buddy gave Chris a swift kick in the rear…..he eventually cleaned up his habit and became a hall of fame WR……

Carter and Irvin anyone? We are being given that kind of opportunity……right now……nobody argues TOs production on the field…….nobody says the guy takes plays off……nobody questions him showing up in shape……

He watches too much sportscenter…..but so does Chad Johnson…….and he and Marvin Lewis seem to make peace long enough to get along…..

I ain’t a TO fan…..I am a Cowboys fan……but there is not a single FA with anymore impact ability than TO………don’t sign TO……well you better be willing to sign Vinateri for 3 million…cuz we will need everyone of those possible Field Goals…….

add TO and 15 TDs to our season….and bookend Ware in the Draft with Carpenter……and we might go 14-2……..our Defense has pro bowl caliber at everyposition…….those young guys don’t even know how good they can be…….

TO or Adam…..one of might win you a close game late in the year from 40 yards out……..the other one might win you 10 games in the first half with a 100 yards recieving and two TDs…….mix in a couple hundred yards rushing from JJ and MB3…..cuz now we got double coverage on TG and TO…….TG drew the doubles not KJ…….

worst case scenario he screws up and he is thrown off the team…..the players union already lost their case with the eagles for TO……he is basically on………

DOUBLE SECRET SECRET PROBATION……one more screw up and he is off Campus for good. TOGA TOGA…….uh oops wrong movie…….TO TO TO……

I looked into this Eric Moulds guy. I thought this guy was in his late 20’s, but this guy is gonna be 33 this year. Do you guys think we might end up getting him? Now that I’ve seen his age, and his stats…this guy isn’t good enough to be a number 1 or even number 2 for the cowboys in my opinion…I’m really confused guys…will we just sign TO tonight? or will we bring him in for a workout tomorrow? i have also heard that miami has a workout scheduled with him…hmmm…maybe we’re getting all riled up for nothing…maybe we’ll just re-sign KJ…

On one hand I think if TO were to come in on a deal where everything was tied to his performance and behavior, then I’m all for it. On the other hand, TO knew that if he acted like an ass that he would have to give 2mil or so back to the Eagles and he acted like an ass anyway. The only hope I have that he can be a model citzen is the way I saw him act when Ashton Kutcher punked him. He actually seemed like an ok guy. At the end of the day, Drew Carey put it best, “You don’t want to party with TO because he’s the kind of guy that is going to hit on your wife and charge you $25 for an autograph”. But then again we had one of those in Deion Sanders and it turned out ok. Spags has intimated that Deion almost tore down the entire lockeroom quietly. I was intrigued by that because I had never heard of this. I asked a friend of mine who had worked for a local paper in Dallas what the scoop was. He told me that Sanders made it a point to sleep with his teamates girlfriends and wives whenever he could. What that has to do with anything I dont’ know. But I do know that Dallas has been successful with these situations in the past and I’m certainly not going to turn my back on my team, no matter how much I may dislike thier decisions.

CNM,

Moulds isn’t much different than KJ, but that he has some speed. KJ runs flat footed. Gruden told people around the league KJ couldn’t break a 5.0 40. While I don’t believe that and have mucho respect for the player, Moulds imo would be a slight upgrade. Especially considering his past relationship with our current QB.

Hey Guys,

This has got to be the greatest sports blog in the the country. I’m amazed to find so many knowledgeable fans making great arguments instead of the psychotic ravings and cat-fighting you see in other blogs. Anyways, about T.O. The man may be immature but Rosenhaus is no dummy. He will make sure T.O. knows that his chances at resurrecting his career and reputation are running out. And just like Parcells, the best way to do so is to play “The Big Room.” No matter what anyone out ther in Haterland thinks, there is no bigger spotlight than being a Dallas Cowboy. The fact that there is such an anti-Cowboys sentiment around the league proves this point. This is perfect for T.O., who obviously doesnt care about being loved by everyone. But I believe he would work in Big D for the following reasons:
1. Bill Parcells – He is not Andy Reed. He would never put up with the continuous insults and jabs we all learned about after T.O. was deactivated. Just like a child testing his limits, Reed was not man enough to put an end to it early. Parcells cuts guys for missing meetings.

2.Ego – There is no way T.O. wants to be remembered this way. He is to egotistical. In his heart he believes he is the best and that only gets proved with on-field production and championship rings. He also wants to rebuild his rep, and while no matter where he goes he will garner much attention, nowhere will the spotlight burn brighter than if he dons the star. We are “The Big Room”. (Snyder, for all your spending and JJ wanna be behavior, you’ll always be the lounge act at the airport Holiday Inn.)

And number 3. Career window closing. While nobody doubts that he is an incredible worker and has a tremendouse workout regimen, time catches us all, even Jerry Rice. This could be T.O.‘s last chance at a winner, last chance at that huge contract that will secure him and his for life, last chance to mend some fences for a possible post-nfl career. Let’s face it, T.O. could go down as one of the best receivers ever, if he didn’t get in his own way.

A fresh start, with a team that has a Championship tradition, a coach that is respected and feared in the ways of Lombardi and Brown, and a team that win or lose is constantly in the national spotlight. Yeah….I think he’ll fit in quite well playing “The Big Room.”

Parcell’s has said he puts up with more depending on the guys performance on the field. So to say he won’t put up with antics is wrong. To say he will put up with antics as well as anyone in the league can as long as the guy is will to shove his dick in the dirt on every play is correct.

Cash,

You’ve got a point there. Lawrence Taylor was a beast to put up with. I’ve heard Phil Simms say the guy would test your limits and everybody on the team put up with him, even enabled him, because he got it done on game day.

The question is whether Taylor or anybody else ever disrupted a locker room as much as T.O. did in Philly. We may get to find out.

My support for the team has never waivered even when they fired Tom Landry who I Idolized when I was a kid. Even the 1-15 season didn’t do me in. Winning with TO will feel like getting rich because I signed a deal with the devil.

we need javon walker, not T.O.

i would hate to win with this guy(t.o)after all these years if we win,he would probably say we won because of him.this is a guy that takes credit for himself even when his team loses it,s never a team effort it,s all about t.o.i can see it now yeah we lost but i caught 3 td passes,resign keyshawn and pay vinateri and try to fill some holes in the draft.

Jon,

Nicely said. Carter is a great example of a player overcoming personal issues to succeed. Ray Lewis is. In the NBA everyone said Rasheed Wallace would never be a part of a team, and he is now a part of THE team with the T-E-A-M principal. … Nice comparisons to Irvin and Carter!!

Jon,

Nicely said. Carter is a great example of a player overcoming personal issues to succeed. Ray Lewis is. In the NBA everyone said Rasheed Wallace would never be a part of a team, and he is now a part of THE team with the T-E-A-M principal. … Nice comparisons to Irvin and Carter!!