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I read a report a few days ago that the Broncos are quietly shopping their two #1 picks (22nd and 29th overall) for picks in next year's draft. Their salary cap situation apparently has them trying to forego big rookie deals this year.

Assuming for the moment that this is true -- I can't confirm that it is, but let's do so for arguments sake -- Dallas could propose the following deal:

Dallas gives:
-- the 18th overall pick (900 points)
-- the 49th overall picks (410 points)
-- next year's #1 (the equivalent of a mid 2nd this year -- 400 points -- moved up one round because it's given in 2007)
Total -- 1710 points;

Denver gives:
-- the 22nd pick (780 points)
-- the 29th pick (640 points)
-- the 61st pick (292 points)
Total -- 1712 points.

(For a draft value chart, look here.)

Dallas would be swapping second rounders this year and giving up a #1 in 2007 to get an extra #1 now. The move down would put Dallas in position to get players like Marcus McNeill, Ko Simpson and Bobby Carpenter, who would be slight reaches at 18, based on the most up to date mocks. The late 1st rounder would also give the Cowboys the chance to obtain a tackle prospect like Jonathan Scott or NT Gabe Watson.

This is purely hypothetical. I've found no evidence that Dallas and Denver have discussed such a move. If the Broncos are indeed trying to flip one or both of their #1s this year, would you make this deal?

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Raf,
You ciphering has dazzled me.
Are you saying we could negotiate around to get to more OT’s and a OLB with our first three draft picks this year?

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 10:53 PM CST reply actions  

Do you trust Petitti as a long term solution?

Look, the players Dallas seems to like — Simpson, McNeill, Scott, Carpenter and Gabe Watson, are are rated between around 21 and 32 in the mock drafts I’ve read lately.

This would give Dallas a shot at getting two of them, rather than just one.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 17, 2006 10:58 PM CST reply actions  

I agree that if you get enough candidates applying for the job someone will pan out, but does anybody other than me feel we need to C.O.A. with some S help?

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 11:01 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe I spent too much time watching
Woodson and Marion.

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

RT potential:
Pettite, Tucker, Kosier, Columbo, Washburn, Price, Fabini, Proctor, hell – throw Allen into that mix

FS candidates:
Davis, Pile, Reeves, Berry-o?

I’ve gotta be missing something. You brainiacs pls enlighten me.

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 11:19 PM CST reply actions  

proctor, Kosier, are guards

by Derrick on Mar 17, 2006 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

Kosier is both guard and tackle, he’s played everything except for center, thats why he is so intruiging but also scary cause that means Larry Allens job is in the air

by thejoker_16 on Mar 17, 2006 11:33 PM CST reply actions  

Derrick,

No doubt, but don’t both has resumes which imply they could play T in a pinch?

I just feel we have a lot more possiblities right now to cover our butts at RT than at FS, or SS for that matter.

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

Strong Safety?

by thejoker_16 on Mar 17, 2006 11:39 PM CST reply actions  

SS:
Roy (I’ll cover TO) Williams, Tony Dixon, Lynn Scott and Berry-o? Thud Williams goes down we got Dixon next in line, youch!

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 11:44 PM CST reply actions  

thats a good point, i think this is where DC will have a little bit of fun with. Beriault will probably play SS, where he is better suited, as well as Davis who might play there along with backing up FS where he is still trying to learn the position.

by thejoker_16 on Mar 17, 2006 11:46 PM CST reply actions  

In the world of unlimited possiblities I would like to see us figure a way to get our hands on Jimmy Williams. FS problem solved.

by KCE on Mar 17, 2006 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

Raf,

Interesting possibility. That would allow the boys to grab 2 of the top 3 needs with OLB, FS and NT, with wildcards at WR or QB if somebody falls. With OT already covered in Fabini this is an embarrassment of riches.

All with good fiscal sense, too – unlike the foreskins.

by Len on Mar 17, 2006 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

Makes brilliant sense and if the boys do as well as their roster suggests is possible it could almost be like giving up a very low 1st rounder anyway in a class that probably will not match up to this year. There are alot of quality juniors going in this draft so next year may be less enticing.

by shoop on Mar 18, 2006 1:20 AM CST reply actions  

Because it looks like we won’t have any glaring needs and we could probably get the player’s we want in the second round, how about a trade down out of the first round similar to the bills trade two years ago. We could have two seconds this year and two first rounders next year. We could get a good safety (bullocks) and offensive lineman (Scott, Spencer)this year with our seconds. Next year, in Parcells and probably Bledsoe’s last year, we could then package our two first’s and move up for a franchise QB (Brady Quinn) who could learn from Bill and Drew for a year before before taking over with a new coach. A new era of the Cowboys will have begun.

Also there seems to be a good chance that teams with a young QB (Sf49ers Smith, Jets Cutler, Texans Carr, Redskins Cambell, Packers Rodgers, Titans Young) will be picking top five so there should definately be teams willing to trade down for a couple of number ones and a third.

By next years draft we hopefully will know what we have better in Henson and Romo and if niether of them seems likely to successfully take over for Bledsoe then trade up for the young gun QB. If they do good look keep both first’s and draft a wide reciever and nose tackle.

What do ya think?

by Luke. on Mar 18, 2006 2:46 AM CST reply actions  

I’d definitely like to see the NFLE games over the next couple of weeks. If drew really does pick up his game again we could already have our QB of the future on the team.

by shoop on Mar 18, 2006 7:22 AM CST reply actions  

if JJ pays larry allen this much money now, he needs his head examined, lets get a kicker, sowell, and re-sign KJ. then the draft is just icing!

by itrustintuna on Mar 18, 2006 7:33 AM CST reply actions  

Luke,

I don’t know that anyone would be willing to trade up this year with all the talent, but if they do and we can swing another deal like we did with the Bills, I like your thoughts a lot!! Like you said, if our current QBs work out, great, we get a WR and NT. If they don’t, we get our franchise QB by trading up. Very interesting ideas.

by Blitzkreig on Mar 18, 2006 8:49 AM CST reply actions  

Another thought is after that trade we could maybe use those two picks and swap with someone high and pick a huge impact like Michael Huff, Ferguson, or maybe go after Leinart?

by red raider on Mar 18, 2006 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

red raider,

the cost of getting to the top three or four is three #1s.

Willing to do that? I’m not.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 18, 2006 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

No I agree, but didn’t the Giants only give the Chargers 2 #1’s and a #2 for the Eli Trade? No team would give up 3 #1’s I agree 3 for 1 would be stupid, but alot of teams seem to be wanting to trade down and with 2 #1’s maybe they would? I am not saying I would even do that because we are getting younger and 2 chances to get players would be better but you have to say it is thought provoking if one team would do it to have a shot at Leinart or Ferguson, and then take a shot at FS in the 2nd round.

by red raider on Mar 18, 2006 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

red raider,

The Giants did give up 2 #1 picks. They traded #4 and #65 (3rd round), plus their 1st- and 5th-round picks in the next year’s draft (2005) to the Chargers, for Manning.

However, please note that the Giants were already at #4. That is a lot closer, and it would take much more than that to move up from #18 to be in position to draft Leinart.

by Mr. Bill on Mar 18, 2006 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

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