The Ego Has Landed

I’m no big TO supporter, but I just wanted to point out that he may be able to control himself in Dallas, if he is indeed on his way.

He targeted his QBs the last two places and I believe a big reason is that those QBs were paid more than he was. In fact, it seemed that McNabb’s contract had their whole locker room divided. Bledsoe doesn’t make near what an average starting QB makes, so there wouldn’t be a professional jealousy to start that relationship.

Hopefully, they can all get it together and just play ball.

if he’s there then cool……. if not lets not hype up alot of nothing…… one thing about Owens i remember is when he played for the 9ers some years ago, he was having a terrible game, i mean really bad game. he had no catches, like everyone they tried to throw to him he couldnt keep his hands on it. but it was a close game. and he had the game winning touchdown catch…. and he cried a happy cry so vicious, i mean not ballin but cryin real good. and i look at him now and wonder what happened……. GO T.O.

Rafael….couldn’t agree with you more, if he works for it, he’ll earn our respect. I am 100% sure JJ by now, knows how to get rid of the problem if he becomes one. I also tend to think BP can handle this guy. Keyshawn was brought in in a very simmilar situation (suspended, big mouth, big ego) and was probably the hardest worker on th team under Bill.

And I don’t believe at all this is only JJ acting. I think Parcell’s agreed to this as well or else TO would’ve never been a cowboy.

I think this a good move and it will make us competititve in a division that will be far better thn any other one in football. It back to early 90’s my friends.

rwillis, what happened is a combination of a guy being extremley good, and not being shy talking about it. He’s not humble anymore and the media has been milking the issue….that’s all. Someone else on the blog made an interesting comment about the TO issues in the past….he said the eaggles would be better with Brett Favre (he didn;t say it, Michael Irvin said it, he just said yes…he wasn’t lying). We would be better also with Brett Favre…as a matter of fact, almost every team except for mayvbe Indy would be better than today if they had Brett Favre. He also said McNabb got tired in the superbowl…..was he wrong? He said he wanted more money and said he was going to hold out…half the freaking league has done that!!!!…..his celebration are just as crazy as Deion’s were….

Maybe this year in my fantasy league I can finally pick a Dallas receiver that can get me some points!

I really despise T.O. for his little Star antics and I was firmly opposed to him coming here (as many of you know). I understand Raf’s point of view and it is a very good arguement, but IMO, it was simply an act of disrespect. In football, you understand you’re suppose to defend your end zone…you shouldn’t have to defend the middle of the field after the whistle. It was a stunt to simply glorify himself and disrespect the club and its fans.

However, since his arrival is now inevitable, I along with all the other NO2TO fans, must simply suck it up and understand it’s still our Cowboys. It’s no different than if a loved one marries someone you don’t like. You can argue with all the other relatives on whether it’s a good idea or not, but when the marriage happens you simply need to accept it. If you truly love that person, you need to understand it’s their happiness that’s important and it’s their life that is directly affected. You’re an outside spectator so you have to swallow your pride and your ill feelings and be supportive. Save the “I told you so” for if/when things start to unravel and hope they never do.
 
“GULP”. Welcome T.O. (he says with a forced whisper).

ManTab,
I agree with your #3 post, but I have to disagree with #4. He may have agreed with Michael on the Brett Favre thing, but he could have been a little more politically correct and said what you did…something like “wouldn’t every team be better with Brett”. And you are correct in McNabb tiring during the SB. Anyone who watched has to admit he looked terrible. But again, Owens should not have said anything about it to the media. IMO, the guy was out of line, even if what he said was true. That’s the kind of thing that starts divisions in the locker room and that’s the kind of thing we don’t need to happen here. Hopefully, he has a “keep your mouth shut and play” clause in his contract. We’ll see.

Sure Owens has an ego, but I remember a receiver who played here called “THE PLAYMAKER” .. and he dashed around saying “if you don’t like me .. then stop me!!” .. So ego, I can handle. (In reality, I liked it when Irvin challenged other teams to stop him.)

T.O. is a guy who grew up in a position were he developed an attitude of “me versus the world”. This is his inner drive, and has driven him to be a great football player. This attitude has never matured (been curbed) and it has rolled over into his personal life and onto his teammates. I think people like Irvin, Parcells, and Parcell’s confidants (like Brian Cox) will refocus Owens by helping him to concentrate his “me versus the world” attitude directly on football. They can teach T.O. that he can have this inner drive, have a chip on his shoulder, and still enjoy life. .. IMO, Owens will really enjoy being part of a team and strive in a Parcells’ environment. … If Owens can learn to strive to be great within a team concept, and still have fun doing it … he will surely quiet his critics.

LETS GO T.O.!!!!!!!

besides TO and the star incident, ive never had a problem with him. and i agree, he is very similar to a certain “playmaker” we all loved and adore. i remember all this grumbling when we traded for KJ, and he has grown into a model cowboy. Too bad we cant have them both, TO,KJ, TG, and PC, not to mention Witten, we would have the most feared recieving corps in the leauge! I think TO will be very good for the cowboys, at least for a while anyway!

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!

I hope JJ makes the anouncement soon so we can get back to draft talk.

BP/JJ need to let Roy handle the Ego’s first day orientation session at the Ranch.

So much for Santonio Holmes or Sinorice Moss at 18.

Blitzkreig…yes, he could’ve been more political with his mouth, which will not be easy because the media will be after him day and night and the guy likes it. HIS celebrations and all that crap are part of the game. That what makes it fun.

i say still take santonio holms at 18, TO aint no spring chicken ya know…

we still might draft receiver because with owens we would only have 4. 2 over 30, 1 capable of something and the other one nobody knows (Copper). I would rather get a safety or a Linemen

anybody think theres a chance we can get Runyan at tackle?

true, ko simpson is a play maker at safety

Well, Well, Well it looks like Jerry is finally going to get over passing on Randy Moss due to character issues. Still a good decision in my mind all though that Thanksgiving game against us still smarts. We got a better ON THE FIELD team player than Moss, TO had a GQ article recently that basically said he did not understand why everyone was mad at him. Maybe BP can explain it in terms he CAN understand. I just wish we still had big Dan Campbell to help him along in the locker room.

Hello All,

Said in yesterdays blog my buddy text from Ft Worth that TO was signed yesterday. Turns out his future father inlaw is one of the Jones` accountants is how he heard. He said contract was signed & this IS a done deal. He was telling me they are waiting for BP & some others to get back to Valey Ranch & will call a press conference on monday to make the announcement.
Good enough for me, looks like TO is a cowboy !

Dan Campbell is by far the biggest lost we have had so far, ill miss KJ, and Glover, but big Dan was the glue in the huddle and the locker room

Lets get younger on the OL please, Runyan would have been a great pick up 5 years ago, remember Raf’s article on the Rivera syndrome? Runyan is only one year younger and he is not looking too hard for a job right now meaning he is not ready to settle for a lower contract. If we are going over 30 I still like Fabini who would be much cheaper and easier to sign. A Parcell’s guy ya know.

I also am not a fan of TO. In fact I have been calling him the biggest jerk in the NFL for years. Thinking back I had similar opinion ( though not as srong disdain) for Deion Sanders, but he did earn my respect. TO now has a chance not to be liked, but to earn the respect of not only cowboy fans but football fans alike. I will give him the benefit of the doubt & hopefully he will earn our respect & help us win a championship.

Does saying things that are ‘true’ make them OK to say? Its true that only one player in the NFL is the ‘best’ at his position. Does that fact allow every other player to complain to the media that if we only had BlaBla instead of our guy we’d have won. If Drew Pearson had said, after the NFC title loss to SF in 1981, that if we’d of had Joe Montana instead of Danny White at QB we’d have won. What would you think. It would have been uncharacteristic of Drew to be sure, but it also is not ‘true’ anymore than TO’s sentiments about Bret vs. Donovan are true. Both Bret and Donovan have had great and bad games. But to listen to the ‘TO is only telling the truth crowd’ its a God given fact that Bret would have pulled out the SB game. BS. If that’s true then why wasn’t GB in the SB. Because it takes the entire team, not just the best QB, to get to the SB and then win it. Ask Big Ben, who stunk up the SB, but the other guys pulled it out. TO is a spoiled little tike who needs to blame others when things don’t go his way. He had a great SB and then ruined it by being a big cry baby. I hope he has matured.

all of this will be for nil, if the lead-footed bledsoe goes down

Mlf:
well stated ,

what TO & many fans do not realize is that BLOCKING & TACKLING win campionships not running & passing.
There is a certain code of honor that TO crossed ! If he shuts his mouth & continues to perform on the field he can do some damage control his last couple of years in the league !

im a little suprised a deal for Fabini hasnt already been done, hope TO isnt breaking the bank…

Fabini like all the OT signess is asking alot more than he is worth. I would not count him out but for his price they might feel they can do better.

any truth to the rumor that Jacob Rogers could be back this year, i still think if that guy would just put his big boy pants on, he could be a player

Doom / gloom mediot Cowlishaw of the DMN is already predicting the end of the Parcells-Jones marriage and the “unraveling” of the Cowboys because of this signing. We’ll see.

I have written previously here about the Eagles’ deal with the devil when they signed Owens to be the “final piece.” This may be the same thing but I don’t have the same feeling about it. Maybe it’s because it’s my team signing him, but maybe it’s because after his humiliation last year Owens may be different this year. The thief on the cross finally got it right at the very end. Maybe Owens learned something. We’ll see.

I’m not a TO fan but I know he is the 2nd best out there right now I rather get Walker because of age. I still would like to draft a WR.

AW:

I also would have been happier with Walker. He is an unbelievable talent, but it is what it is TO.

I would still like to see TO kiss the Star after his first Cowboy TD in Texas Stadium.

LOL. JaDee. KNowing TO, he would do something like that.

I have been a TO proponent for a while now and been blasted in here. I am glad he is here and I hope I am not wrong about him. The best thing for everyone here is to realize he is going to say some dumb S$%& to the media and everyone has to be grown up about it and let it slide. I have no doubt all those Cowboys and TO haters out there in the media will try their best to antagonize, lead, and weasel their way into a story of strife here. TO has to be bigger then that and realize its not going to stop. And we all need to be thick skinned and really pay attention to everything that is said and not what the mediots paraphrase and try to ram down our throats as fact.

mlf,

To me Owens was only agreeing with a statement made by Michael Irvin and then being relayed to him by another reporter. All Owens did was agree with it.

To me that in and of itself wasn’t what actually led to his departure. At that same time two things happened.

First he had told the media and team he may have to sit out the next couple of games, with the Cowboys on deck, due to a mysterious injury.

Second he got into a fight started by Hugh Douglas in the locker room and then challenged the rest of his teamates to fight him as well.

The interview was just the last straw. Personally I feel like McNabb is a Nancy boy, for even giving a crap. McNabb is quite the cry baby given this plus his media outcry about the fact that Limbaugh said he sucked and thought the media was propping him up because he was a minority. Why care what others say about you if you don’t think it’s true. Hit the field and prove them wrong. That’s where Bill Parcells will defuse any attempt by the media to stir the pot. He’ll say something to the effect of, “What was it that Owens said? You do know he’s certifiable right? Yes he gets away with more than some others because he produces on the field.” Then in Drew Rosenhaus form he’ll say, “Next question.”

I hope he’s accepted in the locker room. That’s the X factor here. word is that TO had 50% or more of the Eagles on his side when things went sour, so perhaps it’s not a lock that he’s locker room poison.
His off the field stuff annoys me, but so did Deion, and i became thrilled that Deion was on the team. I firmly believe that both Deion and TO are in the top 15 players ever to have played pro football. So, as far as Xs and Os go, TO is gonna destroy the NFC East… we just have to wait and see if that includes the Cowboys as well.

I read in todays Seattle times that Josh Brown has been contacted by the Cowboys so here we go. Looks like he is our strongest option. Rumor has it Vinateiri is signing today with the Packers !

I understand everyones point about TO and part of me is somewhat excited (BIG change from last week) about the possibility of his coming. It will take a lot of proving for me to like him.

I don’t underestimate the team concept however and am nervous as to what he brings to the table. Team, see San Antonion Spurs, Detroit Pistons, Patriots, last years Steelers, etc. There was not much ME that could be seen from the outside most of the time. The Eagles said they could handle him as well when they signed him. They were wrong, but admittedly they made some mistakes.

That being said, I do understand the receiver and cornerback mentality. You have to think you are the best and cannot be beaten. If you think you can be beaten, you will be. It is an absolute nesecity, a large part of the mental game.

Also, TO is not stupid, neither is Rosenhaus, he must prove himself now if he is to ever get the payday he wants/deserves. If this is in fact a 3 year deal. I would assume it is either a rent for 1 year, 3 year deal or a 2 year deal with option for third year. I don’t see Rosenhaus not having a clause in the contract for incentively buying out that last year to get that huge money after proving himself. If we can rent him into behaving, then so be it.

At least I am starting to hear the rumors of us getting busy now. From looking at these posts, we all need some distration.

Whats your draft out-take

1st Rd. Trade Down/Gabe Watson
2nd Rd. Josh Bullocks
3rd Rd. Charlie Whitehurst

I don’t buy into the whole TO vs the locker room. I think a small few had personal problems with him and that was blown out of proportion because one of McNabb being one of those few. What do ya think of Irvin’s influence on TO? Do ya think that maybe it could be enough to help with the alleged locker room issues?

MLF-
That wasn’t my point yesterday about what he said being true.
My point was that the media and we as fans blow things out of proportion. We have thin skin and scream foul the first time someone goes outside the bounds.
We including the team need to thicken our skins a little. I’m in the military and if I got my little feelings hurt each time someone said the wrong thing do you think I’d still be able to do my job! I’m saying focus on the JOB-the end goal being the Championship, and quit worrying on what someone else is going to do or is doing now!!
Basically,a shut up and play ball attitude-y’know?

Darknight

Trust, you don’t want Watson. He’s awful. I’m a HUGE OSU fan. I’ve been watching Nick Mangold own him for the past 4 years. The guys a bum! Just like when the Rams drafted Jimmy Kennedy.

Eric-R—Read “Key decisions”#142-160ish

Read is “Owens already” #2, 19, 23 etc.

My Conversion is complete thanks to you and Iron Man.

4:19 pm CT 12 Mar 2006
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Impatient:

I am on the getting TO side… As much as it pains me with his Star dance, But… I think he wants to be here, I think being benched last year has really woke that kid up. Notice how he has been on his best behavior since the Rosenhaus fiasco. He didnt even feel the need to address Donavan when he went off with no one leading him in questions that will get him in a heap of trouble.

AND his pal Michael Irvin is here, whom I like as well, and think would be a good football influence for TO. (I know Iâ€â"¢m gonna get murdered in here for saying that). No way Michael allows TO to come into what is still his house and make a fool of his team. He would have been much more assertive with TO in his advice to him while he was with the iggles, except I think Mike might have inflamed that situation subconsciously out of spite. His career did end in Philly and was spit upon when no one knew if he was paralyzed.

Bring him in and give the kid his LAST chance in the league. He knows it and so does everyone else. Iâ€â"¢ll take the guy who is fighting for his life on my team any day, and TO has been beaten to within an inch of his life.

I appreciate the other side; this is only my opinion…

Then would you still want Chad Jackson or Holmes in the first?

I have been a TO guy from his SF days. Hated him for what he did to us but I HAD to respect the talent. And I loved haivng him on my FF squad. I think his celebrations were a way for him to set himself apart in a league that firmly restricts individuals for the better PR of the Team ( a la the Emmitt Smith helmet rule). This is a game first and foremost and one that makes billions of dollars for all involved by entertaining the fans. That was how I saw many of his antics in the end zone. Seriously, the sharpie thing was pretty funny. Did my stomach burn when he ran onto the Star? Of course. Would I have rather we had stopped him fram having a reason to celebrate? uh- Yeah.
I think it is great that we talk about honor and code and all of that in modern football-but the truth is for these high profile players that are always in the press they have been ALLOWED to develop those personalities. Look at the men who have coached TO during his best years Mooch and Reid? Both descrbed as “players coaches” who would rather let the “men” deal with locker room issues on their own rather than enforce their own discipline. Does anyone think that is the atmosphere TO runs into here? Anyone? Does anyone think that HE expects that type of atmosphere here or that Irvin who is a friend of TO hasn’t been doing some counciling on the side with him to get his head straight? I am not saying that he is blameless for some of what he said but talking to hiom like aman instead of threatening him with shots to his wallet would have cooled these things down.

This is all about last year IMO. The 2004 season everyone talked about what a turnaround it was and what great chemistry he had with Crybaby McNabb and the rest of the Eagles. but TO isn’t stupid. The Eagles only planned on keeping him for 2 years anyway. NO WAY they were going to pay that roster bonus unless they won a SB and were going for a repeat. He and “No Comment” understood that and started negotiaiting early to guarantee his longevity there. When they didn’t get it he felt like the sacrifice he made to come back and produce for them in the SB was overlooked. SO he opened his big mouth. No one said he was Henry Kissinger. Politics isn’t his strongpoint. Not a problem- we have Jerry as a pretty good spokesman for the club.

bottom line- I will stand and cheer louder than anyone the first time he take a 5 yrd slant and goes 70 yds to the house. And if you don’t think he will acknowledge the Star in some fashion to win the hearts and minds of the Cowboy Nation- hold on to your seats.

impatient-It looks like we’re saying the same thing-Let the game play out, and toughen our skin so the Mediots can’t turn this into a frenzy. Let players talk smack, just remember it’s realy not personal.

oh, yeah, And don’t pick a fight with TO in the locker room, he’s beaten up much much bigger men. LOL

Because of the moves by DC and NY, we have no choice but to respond with the TO move (unless of course we are willing to concede next year to 3rd behind each).

TO is the best athlete available and an excellent value. The reality is that if he did not screw up so badly last year, we had no chance of getting him. His screw up will pay off the the Cowboys in a big way. What choice does he have but to come in and make a statement? This is his last stop and you can bet he will make the best of it for his legacy, not to mention his after football prospects.

His ego will pay off for us in a big way.

TO is a must,we can beat the skins,iggles,giants without him but to win the big picture we need him especially if key signs with carolina what a nfc championship game that will be TO a cowboy vs key a panther

I am glad to hear the news that we are signing TO. Now, we MUST sign a RT to protect Bledsoe. If Bledsoe goes down, we go down. I will be interesting to see how other teams try to stop TO,Glen and Witten – that’s a pretty good passing attack.

Raf – I know what you mean about hating the Celtics – how about the Jazz. I have been a Rockets fan since age 7 and still have my old t shirt that say “Belt The Celts”.

if you guys get a chance, www.NFL.com has an NFL network video lead on drew henson with the rein fire NFLE. pretty good stuff. gives insight into how he’s doing and what makes him tick.

What do you guys know about Orlando Brown besides that he was the guy who got hit in the eye by that refferee’s flag. Can he play RT?

Regardless of how the spin goes on the Favre incident, it was not the first time that Owens had dumped on McMahon. The fact remains that it was all a contract dispute. There can be no excuse for throwing your quarterback (or any other teammate) under the bus during a contract dispute, regardless of whether any statements made are true or not.

If this rumor is true, there are a lot of Cowboy fans who now have a choice to make. Do they remain Cowboy fans or not? Some will not. I will.

Heaven help us! We are going to need it.

The mediots are so stupid, first they say the only coach in the league that could handle TO is Parcells, then they say its going to be the downfall of the Cowboys. I dont pay any attention to them, but if TO is going to be successful here he has to not pay attention too. BP is going to close every single door around the Ranch and our practice fields. No more media talking to TO, thats how he gets in trouble. His stupid celebrations would not have gotten him into so much trouble as the media overblowing every thing he says and does. He better not talk to any idiots like Tim Cowlishaw.

If just the signing of TO is not the big bang, I think KJ could still be resigned and the big bang will be Parcells head against the wall because he will have to manage all these big egos in the locker room.

If the news conference is Monday, Parcells had better be back and at it, or else it will be downhill already. Everyone will take that as Parcells didnt want the signing and JJ did.

If we sign TO, I still worry about WR next year, or get one late. We still need an OLB, so Im getting Carpenter 1st. I would have taken a gamble on Watson but no one else here would so I’ll trust their judgement. Jon Scott or Eric Winston would be my 2nd pick, with Pat Watkins third. Then in the 5th, Le Kevin Smith, and BPA in 6th and 7th.

Of course, I meant McNabb, not McMahon. I must have been thinking of pro wrestling at the time.

My Draft take:
Trade waaaay down, til’ the real high 2nd Round and Draft:

1st pick: Charles Spencer – OG/OT
2nd pick: Mark Anderson – OLB/DE
3rd pick: Anthony Smith/Pat Watkins – FS

If his mouth and unhealthy personality are kept in check, he’ll make an enormous impression on the Cowboys’ offense.
If he wants to get paid, if he wants to be viewed as having been “right” in the Eagles fiasco:
 - He will have to work extra hard to prepare
 - He will have to leave it out on the field every game
 - He will have to be viewed as a mild mannered team mate
Bledsoe may throw for 30 TDs, and Jones/MBIII may each run for 1,000. TO puts Witten in the Pro Bowl.
Teams will sell out to stop TO on defense. They’ll take chances to pop him extra hard, they’ll double him, they’ll bite on his fakes.
Copper and Crayton continue learn how to prepare and go across the middle from another one of the best (Key and then TO).
Teams will have to blitz so Bledsoe can’t throw to TO deep – this opens slants to Glenn and swing passes to jones in the flat.
And, best of all, if teams line up man on man and play the Cowboys’ O straight up, TO will beat them like a drum all day long.

speaking of pro wrestling, is Bill Goldgerg still available to sign? Could he pass his drug test?!

By the way, if we sign Owens, the ‘big bang’ will not be that signing. It will be the media reaction to it. Be prepared for ANYTHING!

We just added 16 TDs to our offense. TG was a threat to take it to the house on any play, but KJ was not, neither was Witten. Now we have take it to the house LIGHTNING in TG, TO, JJ, stack the line we throw the ball……..double team TG who was double teamed all last year and TO…..and we hit witten for 20 across the middle all day long…….or TG or TO still beat you down field.

This offense just got a LOT more interesting. Remember Bill Parcells produced the plenty of pass happy offenses with guys like Phil Simms, Drew Bledsoe, Vinny, and Hostetler……..he don’t mind chucking the rock early and often then killing the clock with run run run.

Cowboys have upstaged all those FAs of NY and Washington…….and Danny boy is losing sleep thinking about TO doing some kind of Rain Dance in the end zone at FEDEX field……LOL……

Still doesn’t change the fact that Bledsoe is incapable of tossing a 5 yard pass. Is that true or what? It’s a either a long pass or its in the dirt. I hope he is capable of improving in that area.

Cash,

Good point. I’m looking forward to seeing how Henson does this weekend. The game is going to be on the NFL network. I keep hearing good things about him there and Romo is no slouch. I would really like to see at some point this year how they look in a real NFL game. With TO and Glenn, Witten and JJ, we will get a good idea of where they stand with those kind of playmakers lining up for them.

I have had 2 people call me and say it is a done deal on a 3 year contract. Has anyone seen this?

also why does McNabb get a free pass. He is the one that said we will go to the Super Bowl with or without TO……after TOs year….he basically made the point that the eagles were great team with or without owens? Knowing TOs ego……and if McNabb and TO were friends……that is where the rift started. Then TO had an MVP performance and was all set to catch a game winning TD…….and McNabb is huffing and puffing. I thought he had these awesome offseason workouts? Yet it has been TO who has been painted as the villain in all that? I don’t get it……..McNabb bears as much of the blame for the family feud as any divorce……the blame should be shared. Yet TO gets the blame….and he runs his mouth enough to bring more of that blame.

He is going to light the iggles up……along with a heavy dose of James and Ware getting after McNabb. Hech TO might ask BP if he can play OLB…….for a down or two……LOL.

Off the TO subject, but my gut sez the Cowboys feel the LP position is settled and Singleton is the final starting piece. IMO, they are correct and a huge upgrade to Singleton is not necessarily possible.

I think they will and should focus on safety and RT. If solutions for kicker and blocking TE is indeed underway with the Seattle boys, they have done the best job of any team in FA and have kept spending under control.

Assuming TO is really coming, he will come at an excellent price for a player of his caliber IMHO. If all this happens, what more could we ask from FA?

Sorry, I ment to say the LB position is settled. Fatfingered it.

And what everyone forgets is that even after all of TO’s crap throughout the season, aside from McNabb and Hugh Douglas who wasn’t even on the team, all key Eagles players still wanted him back. Dawkins and Trotter even up to the hearing still wanted TO on their team—that says alot to me.

joey2z……..teams doubled TG all last year and even so he was averaging over 20 yards a catch and was on his way to the probowl before we lost our left tackle…….now we got TG and TO……..Glenn may well be the biggest beneficiary watch out he could have 1500 yards and 15 tds…….

but you are correct the whole offense is getting a huge boost…nobody feared KJ taking it to the house…..he was great at getting first downs though……and he went across the middle……and punished DBs, Safeties and even a LB or two…….but then again other than Roy Williams…….TO has usually gotten the better of DBs and other than practice he won’t have to worry about Roy anymore…..

TO is going to shut up and play. Just wait and see. It is going to crush the eagles……and their idiotic fans are going to turn on McNabb Reid and Lurie…..rightfully so……..LOL.

I love it when a plan comes together.

Jon,

McNabb gets better treatment because he knows how to behave as an adult. Right or wrong has nothing to do with it. The honest truth is that Owens has behaved poorly at both previous stops. He doesn’t have the maturity or the counsel around him to help him understand how to deal with situations. Maybe Parcells will provide that counsel. We can only hope.

rha,

one more OLB would be nice but even without just the advances last year’s tookies will make is going to elevate this D. But the team really needs a DT and a FS to be complete.

IMO we need 4 more bodies after K and TE – OLB, RT, FS, NT. Those could all copme through the draft if they’re savvy.

Len,

Don’t discount the draft, we will fill many needs there.

I am very pleased with FA this year over last. Last year we jumped out early with Ferguson, Rivera, Henry and Bledsoe and only Bledsoe played the full year.

I think we learned our lesson and perhaps we could have a FA haul equal in benefit to the last draft. It is even possible Henry and Ferguson can come back, although I have doubts about Rivera. Bledsoe will hold up another couple of years.

Jon B
Lets not get crazy TG isn’t going for no 1500 yards and 15 tds. That’s is as crazy when someone here said KJ was going to get at least 10 td after the first game of the season last year. I think TO would help Crayton out the most if he is coming here. It will be his third year if he can make a jump like he did from year one to year two, he will have a good year.

It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy! It’s a conspiracy!

And you would be a fool not to realize it! The pieces are all there, let’s put them together.

Jerry Jones, with his vast wealth, decided to create the ultimate weapon to destroy any potential rivalries of the Dallas Cowboys. With the looming dynasty of the 49ers and the soon to be upstart Eagles, he hatched this diabolic plot which was set in motion many years ago using secret government cloning technology and the decoding of the human genome similar to the ones used in the Universal Solider Project! Jerry sets out to make a ultimate weapon, a super human athlete that would not only destroy his enemies physically but corrupt their team moral as well destroying all who stand in the way of DC Glory! Terrell is really a DNA enhanced Cyborg agent of the Dallas Cowboys! Let’s review Jerry’s diabolical scheme at work – timeline:

2000 – During an October contest in Dallas, Owens celebrated scoring a touchdown by running to midfield of Texas Stadium and posing on the star logo of the Cowboys. At the time this seemed like a blatant disrespect to the Cowboys. Really it was T.O. raising his arms in glory and praise to his Overlord and Creator Jerry Jones. Jerry knowing the truth is seen stroking cat in sky box with Zen like calm! This is the end of the Niners run, from here on out they proceed to go 41-55. Stage one complete.

2004 – Owensâ€â"¢ agent failed to meet a free agency deadline in March, making him ineligible to become a free agent. Because they retained his rights, the 49ers then traded him to the Baltimore Ravens, but Owens knowing his final mission is elsewhere expresses his desire to play in Philadelphia, and filed a grievance, claiming he should be granted free agency. After a series of negotiations, a deal was worked out between the three teams which sent Owens to Philadelphia where he signed a seven-year, $49 million deal against the advice of the playersâ€â"¢ union. Why would Owens intentionally ignore players union? Because it was part of the set-up to bring down the Eagles, because he is a DNA enhanced Cyborg agent of the Dallas Cowboys! I can’t make this stuff up people.

2005 – Owens hires agent Drew Rosenhaus in April and announces he is not happy with his contract and wants to renegotiate with the Eagles. He also tells CNBC that, despite making $7.5 million in 2004, he needs a new contract to â€Å"feed his family”. And who is his family? Whose is his Lord and Master? Why none other than Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. You can take “feeding family” as “giving tribute” or destroying the Eagles with subversive intent.

2005 – After hinting that he might hold out of training camp, Owens shows up with a bad attitude, refusing to acknowledge the media or speak to his teammates. After a confrontation with head coach Andy Reid, he was suspended for one week. During an interview with ESPN’s Graham Bensinger Owens took shots at the Eagles franchise for not publicly recognizing his 100th touchdown catch. During the interview he stated the Eagles showed a “lack of class”. He also suggested the Eagles would be better off with Packers QB Brett Favre instead of Donovan McNabb. Owens issued a half-hearted apology through the media. Owens’ suspension was stretched to four games, and head coach Andy Reid added that Owens would not play for the remainder of the season. Eagles go 6-10, lose twice to Dallas and T.O. is succseeful in tearing down the Eagles poster child and turn the Eagles locker room, AND the NAACP against Donovan McNabb. Stage two complete.

2006 – Homecoming?

Some of this stuff has been bowered from some web sorce so props to them. The rest is me.

stabbing your teammate in the back is not behaving well……it was poor on McNabbs part. McNabb has become the Fran Tarkenton of his generation…..he should be labeled a choker….he played poorly in the NFC Championship games they lost before they beat Atlanta at home to advance.

If TO is indeed signed…..which I tend to think he is…….look at the way JJ and BP have Drew and TO remaining quiet over the weekend while they both vacation? They are already in control of the situation. Hopefully it is just an indication of the way things will be in Dallas.

Cameron I love your conspiracy theory. Lets hope our secret agent has come home to the motherland and is ready to serve JJ with loyalty.

SF had issues also……didn’t the owners get forced out of the NFL cuz of mob ties? Front office botled for Cleveland of all places……and they fired Mooch afte he was actually pretty successful. TO again gets more blame than he deserves……

Don’t forget the nose tackle position. Glover is gone and Ferguson is no spring chicken. This is another important position that is hard to fill. Unless we are going to be playing even more of the 4-3, a huge run stuffer is important.

If Mr. Owens is signed, how many times will we have to watch replays of the Star incident? Can’t wait for that..

A agree with those who say we at least need to draft a WR. If TO bugs out or if Glenn gets hurt I want to have an insurance policy.

New updates—no official deal, but everyone thinks he is coming here.

1) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/22/LI2005042201154.html

2) www.profootballtalk.com

LOL at Cameron.

Heres how I see the rest of the offseason playing out:

- Sign TO.
- Sign Ryan Hamman.
- Sign Josh Brown.
- Sign Jerald Sowell.
- Cut LA.
- Sign RT Jon Runyan.

- 18th pick- OLB Bobby Carpenter
- 2nd round pick- FS Josh Bullocks
- 3rd pick- NT Oshiwino
- 5th pick- OG/OT Kevin Boothe
- 6th pick- BPA
- 7th pick- BPA

Offense looks like this:
QB- Bledsoe, Romo, Henson
RB- Jones, Barber, Thompson
FB- Sowell
LT- Flo, Petiti
LG- Kosier, Peterman
C- Gurode, Johnson
RG- Rivera, Boothe
RT- Runyan, Rogers
TE- Witten, Hamman, Ryan/Peirce
WR- TO, Glenn, Crayton, Copper

Defense:
DE- Canty, Ellis
NT- Fergie, Oshiwino, Pepper
DE- Spears, Ratlif, Coleman
OLB- Carpenter, Singelton
ILB- Adoyele, Burnett
ILB- James, Shanle
OLB- Ware, Thornton
CB- Newman, Reeves
SS- Roy, BerryO
FS- Bullocks, Davis
CB- Henry, Glenn

P- McBriar
K- Brown

Whats everyone think?

Boy this is interesting. We seem to be coming together on the TO deal. Even guys like myself, having bad mouthed the prospect of TO coming to Big-D, have now clamed down and are anticipating his impact. I’ll stay positive from here on out. I must admit that I was rooting for him in the SB. I wanted the iggles to end the Pats 3 of 4 run. I will also admit, after my TO cry baby statement earlier, that I thought both Reid and McNabb combined with horrible clock management and fatigue to lose the game. McNabb looked like an aging overweight lineman walking up to the line at the end. The great Reid blew the clock off big time. I am excited about the Cowboys offense. Resign KJ and put him at TE (someone said this earlier) once in a while. I think Blesoe will have his second coming. A SB win, or two, could put Drew in the PFHOF when combined with his yards. I hope JJ and BP have more than the TO signing to talk about next week. Maybe all our other wishes will be met too.

Cameron-LMAO Thanks for the laughs…Or is it reality?!

Cameron, nice job. I think you have it figured out. When is the History channel special?

Jon, I didn’t say that he behaved well. I said that he behaved as an adult. There’s a big difference. Adults can behave poorly yet know how to get their way. Children throw tantrums. Last year McNabb got in front of the microphone and smiled and said things that people approved of. Owens threw tantrums. Like I said, right or wrong had nothing to do with it.

LouC:

Sign me up for that line up !

I`ll take it !!!

Cameron, A great movie. TO adn JJ could play themselves. Great reading, thanks

i just hope its not true that JJ did this without BP’s approval. If BP thinks he can cage this guy when neccessary, then im all for it. I dont have to like TO, but ill come a lot closer to it if we win!

Cameron, send your piece in to LTTE of the DMN or FW Star-Telegram. Others should hear your wisdom.

Get your sharpies ready!!!

I was extrodinarily impressed by TO in the Super Bowl. The weeks prior, I thought all the talk of him playing were just his way of clammoring for attention — just as he did through his 9’er career. I was shocked that he got on the field, and I was awed that he had a great game. I actually felt sorry for my Eagles fan friend through the offseason, and proud of the Eagles for cutting him. So, I’m torn. Guess we start preying that he keeps his headphones on his mouth shut.

A lil off topic but I was curious if Bobby Carpenter has surpassed Chad Greenway in the draft? Given the unlikely scenario that both of them drop to 18 who do you take? Greenway is 6-4/235, ran a slow 4.74 in his 40, and only benched 225 16 times. Carpenter is 6-3/255, ran a 4.65 in his 40, and benched 225 20 times. Greenway’s numbers were better in college but Carpenter’s numbers could be overshadowed by the presence of Hawk on the field. I never got to see much of Greenway to be honest so I was just curious who you guys would choose. Most sites have Greenway as the better talent but I get the feeling they are all getting much of their information from the same source. Any thoughts?

i like carpenter better personally

Oh boy, here we go. So it’s not even going to be the media that gives T.O. all the credit but fans on this blog I see. I have a HUGE problem with any “fan” that claims T.O. will “put Witten in the pro bowl” – comment #60. Last time I checked, Witten was a big enough boy to put himself there the last two years. Please don’t start stroking T.O.‘s ego by saying he will be the key factor in all success for the offense. One of the biggest reasons I opposed him coming here in the first place was I thought the media would do just that. I thought the bloggers on this site had a little more sense, but I guess some don’t.

Sorry if you take offense to this posting, but IMO you are way out of line if you are saying T.O. will put anyone on this TEAM anywhere. There’s no denying he will make a big impact on offense, but let’s give credit to the guys who have already proven themselves.

i want LA cut but resigned to a more favorable cap#

Blitz,

We all saw Julius Jones struggle last year. And I’m sure we all have different opinions as to why. But you can not deny that having Owens on the field won’t cause opposing defenses to back up a bit. Obviously the RB still has to run the ball, but a talent like TO being on the field will MAKE everyone on the field more effective simply because of the attention he warrants.

CLAM625, I was not impressed with Greenway at the combine. His lack of reps with 225lbs leaves me thinking ‘missed tackles’. Slow and little upper body strength. His long arms ‘may’ account for the lack of reps. IMO Carpenter looks better, on paper, all around but he was not at the combine. I don’t follow college footbal so others probably have more reliable opinions.

Just saw a post that ESPN has reported that the Lubbock, TX report that TO has a deal with Cowboys is FALSE and other news outlets are following suit. The fun continues!!

Why do we care what kind of impact LA or anyone has on the cap? Unless TO is breaking the bank-which I doubt-who cares how much of this years cap we spend if we get all of the parts? That is one of the benefits of spending wisely in the past. we ar enot constrained by the CAP and don;t have to ask a lot of players to restructer just to make us competitive (Can anyone say Lil’ Danny “Pretzel Boy” Snyder? We have the leeway to decide whether or not we want him period. If we do and we have the room why ruffle his feathers by asking him to restructure? It’s not like $1MM here and there are going to kill JJ.

Great to be here!!

mlf,
Yeah me too. It just seems that Carpenter is the best fit all around. But a lot of sites think we could trade down a couple of spots and still may be able to grab him. Some have the Browns grabbing Greenway at 12 tho. Its not adding up to me I was hoping someone who saw Greenway play personally explain the hoopla behind him. All I’m seeing is some great numbers which could be an illusion of a good player looking great around lesser players. If I’m wrong please let me know.

yo, what up all, its been a while sinc ive posted. a long long while, abou tthis time last year, and since i have sit there and watched you guys tear yourselves upo about the terrell owens situation, thats all well and good do your thing, but it looks like he will be wearing silver and blue this coming season (which in my eyes is perfectly fine by me). but im looking at kicker as being a problem, i know a lot of you guys are pretty convinced josh brown should be our guy, but im not o sure we should settle for less, cuz if we get brown over AV thats indeed what we are doing, settling for less.AV is way too clutch to pass on when he is available, we were a 12-4 team last season if we make three feild goals. But we had RAY FINKLE, i mean Jose Cortez kicking for us (wonder if he can feel his face from larry allens bear claw yet?)Lets put it this way guys, without AV people would be saying Tom who??? without AV im positive at least two of those three superbowls go to another team. the best clutch kicker in the game is available and it disapoints me he isnt wearing silver and blue yet.

is anybody listening to Dunham and miller right now……….the conversation reminds me of this blog….great points for owens and great points against. My feeling is better for us to sign him than others in the NFC east. He has already been taken down a bit, so I believe he will “play ball”……….any comments?

I hear you on AV. when yo have a season like we did last year where at LEAST 2 games were clearly decided by muffed kicks it might change your view on how much a kicker is worth. they aren’t the highest scorers in the league for nothing! I agree on getting AV but let’s do the press conference for him and TO on the same day to crush the Deadskins fans feeling so high about their FA so far.

Maybe with TO as long as we have a kicker who can hit extra points we’re ok. That excludes Cortez of course.

AV is asking for 3 mil a year josh brown would be less and is a younger version you want clutch watch our game against them and watch his winning kick AV is just looking for a big payday and at FS word is we sign marcus colemon mon

Cameron,

You almost forgot one of the most obvious clues. After the Eagles lost to the Cowboys the game in which Owens had to sit out he mistakenly allowed his over coat to come open revealing his…. Micheal Irvin Jersey!!!

…. Man, the clues the clues we should have all be reading the clues!!!

Cash,
Uh, not too clear on the point you’re trying to make by your post. Could you clarify?

My post says things like I don’t want to see Owens get “ALL the credit” and be shown as “the key factor in ALL success”. I also wrote that “Thereâ€â"¢s no denying he will make a big impact on offense.”.

In my post, I was simply saying that I don’t want to hear/read people taking credit from players who have already earned it. Witten was in the last two pro bowls, yet somehow, joey2zs feels that T.O. will “put” him there this year. How many TEs have went to the pro bowl that have been on a team with T.O.? Why hasn’t be put all of them there? That’s the point I’m trying to make. I can put aside my distain for the guy as he is now a part of the team. But I just can’t stand the thought of people saying everything good on offense happens because of T.O. and now suddenly the players like Witten that were praised by all of us suddenly need Owens to put them in the pro bowl.

So tell me how I’m wrong by this statement and tell me what you’re trying to point out that I didn’t say? And don’t take this as someone getting irrate with you (sometimes writing comes across like that). I’m honestly just asking what your point is and how I am mistaken in having a problem with the statement “TO puts Witten in the Pro Bowl”

What the scout’s say about Coleman

Coleman has had an up-and-down career, and he has been on the downside the past two seasons. He also has had some off-field baggage in recent years. He is a versatile player in that he is primarily a corner but also has lined up at free safety the past two seasons. He has lost a lot of his big-play ability, and he has always been the type of player who followed great plays with bad plays. Now that the great plays have diminished, the bad plays tend to stand out. He could play another few years if it’s under a coaching staff that knows how to handle him.

I certainly don’t agree that Witten needs Owens to be in the probowl, as I would have to ignore the last two years to make such a statement. But what you may see is an elevation in Wittens game as defenses have to roll their coverage over to TO’s side of the field. It’s possible you’ll seem him running more free than in the past. But keep in mind, if Witten was in the AFC he’d never find his way to Hawaii having to compete with Gonzo and Gates.

TO’s presence might allow him to put up Gates and Gonzo type numbers.

BlitzKrieg,

My feeling is a definate YES. Owens will help make some of our very talented players more recognizable. Our opponent’s defence next year will have to put more focus on him because he is dangerous. Drew, Whitten, JJ, TG, AND MB will all have the opportunity to take the advantage of the talent that they already have because Owens is just another position in our offense that requires much attention from the opposing defense.

Adam-, that’s great if true! Where did you hear that info on Coleman!?
Casual-welcome back. But Brown has a bigger leg as shown by no less than Mike Holmgren trusting him to 12 50 yd + att in 2 years. Vin has 10 in 10 years, I believe. Brown has also come through in the clutch, just a little off in the 30-40 yd area methinks. I too would prefer the best, but will settle if Brown will be around longer and allow us to re-sign T-new, J-Whit, & Roy next season. and remember, every draft pick from last season signed a shorter tenure due to the uncertainty of the CBA. so in two and three years they are up too. Don’t break the bank means not only this year, but also next and the next etc.

As well, all of those players may make Owens better as well. I know that that may sound a bit nieve, but I think that it is at least possible. This all depends of course on how well, Owens can “GEL” with the team dynamics.

Why are so many people against Lousaka Polite? I thought he did just fine last year. As teams are moving more and more away from FBs why are we worried about a position that was inactive for 7-8(?) games last year?

Coleman info from ESPN and Scout’s Inc

gunner i ahev kept a close eye on a couple people in here and one of them has been you, becuase i accept your comments and beleive full heartedly everything you say isnt backed up by b.s. you have great points, hence post 111. but still, clutch in a regular season game against the cwobyus is nothing close to clutch to kicking them game winner in a superbowl. i respect josh brown being around for cheaper, and that would be the only reason i would settle for brown, very good kciker but in my opinoin he isnt AV. if we get him i will welcome him, knowing he is saving us our future, but i strongly beleive that kickers dont break the bank, not even the best of them.

Hey Blitzkreig, I don’t know why you’re apologizing for anything. It’s I who should apologize to you for putting your nose out of joint. Sorry I mentioned that TO will gather a lot of attention which should free up Jason Witten a great deal and get him a lot of balls and send him to the Pro Bowl. I don’t know what came over me.
Jason Witten had an OK year in 2005. He did make the pro bowl this season, because Jeremy Shockey was injured.
You’re right. I was way out of line. I’ll hurry and get back in line, sorry! Thanks for pointing this out. Gosh. I’m not at all sure what we all would do without you bringing us fake fans all back down to earth. You’re right. When you’re right, you’re right. TO is overrated. He is. He won’t “put anyone on this TEAM anywhere.” Like when he put the Eagles in the playoffs and took them to an 8-1 record until he was sidelined in Dallas with 1,200 yds, 14TDs, and a league leading 15.6 yds per catch. Know who benefited from TO’s performance (and i know you do)? NOBODY! YOU’RE RIGHT! Nobody benefited from his extraordinary abilities. The TEAM did it on their own, and we hvae to give credit to where credit is due, LJ Smithâ€â"¢s numbers – 5 TDs that year, 11.1 yds per catch (SUPER COWBOY Jason Witten had 6 this year, and 2005 and averages roughly 11.1 yds per catch) had nothing to do with Terrell Owens. It’s just that LJ Smith and McNabb’s short passing game is that good.
Why oh why do i try and pretend to be a Cowboys fan when Real and True Cowboys fans like you call me out? I’ll never know. I’m stupid. I’m so stupid. I shouldn’t visit this board. Iâ€â"¢m merely a simple poseur and should just sit at the knee of wise football geniuses such as yourself who know absolutely that only drafted Cowboys are Real Cowboys.
Now all the idiots will come out of the woodwork who think that Terrell Owens may be better than Terence Copper ( a Real Cowboy). Mediots and Posuer Fan are now going to have opinions, and you’re going to have to listen to stupid, dumb, idiots mouth off and get in your way.
Christ, I’m so sorry. I feel terrible for you having to deal with things beyond your control.
Will Drew Bledsoe benefit from TO? NO!
Julius Jones? NO
Our defense? NO
Terry Glenn? NO
Nobody is going to benefit from an ordinary to poor WR like Terrell Owens coming to Dallas. I donâ€â"¢t know what Parcells or Jones see in him. Iâ€â"¢ll write you a nice perfumed note every time TO affects a game, apologizing for him getting in the way of Real Cowboy Fans like you and Real Cowboy players like Jason Witten.

ESPN story on TO- ummmm- if we didn;t signe TO what would JJ be having a press conference for?

 A Lubbock, Texas, television station reported Thursday night that Owens already has agreed to sign with the Cowboys and would do so on Monday, but a source close to Owens told ESPN.com the report is inaccurate. However, sources have confirmed to ESPN.com’s Len Pasquarelli that Dallas is one of the teams in negotiations to land Owens, although they say it could take some time to get a deal done.
Dallas is believed to be the most likely destination for the troubled receiver, who was released by the Eagles earlier this week. The Cowboys released WR Keyshawn Johnson the same day, fueling speculation that they were saving cash and clearing a spot for Owens.

Denver, Kansas City, Miami and Tampa Bay also have been mentioned as potential landing spots for Owens. However, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported Thursday that the Dolphins weren’t interested in signing T.O.

What I meant, brainiac, is that TO will give Witten strong, undeniable Pro Bowl stats. Sorry I didn’t bash you over the head with the obvious. He’ll make Witten’s job easier. Do you deny that? Fine.

UnNecsry:
Damn! And I thought about that one too. I think he flew back after the lost with a Cowboys Jeresy on the team plane. That must have gone over well.

Also, only DNA enchanced Cyborgs can play on broken legs in SuperBowls.

Wait a second Joey2zs- were you being facetious?

Cowboys Double Agent or not, he did more to bring our NFC East rival down than we ever could and despite all his other crap I can love him for that.

casual good point and thanks. I do wish we were an aerly visit for AV tho- I wonder sometimes why they let some go and chase others down.

The Eagles fell down because of Mcnabbs injury.

I’ll root for TO as long as he is respectable. As long as we pick up a Tackle such as Fabini, we’ll scare defenses. His presence will open things up for Glenn, Witten, and the running game. We NEED a OT. Milloy is now gone. It seems that we may not be after a safety after all. I really thought that we’d at least go after one for some experience but it appears not. Marcus Coleman is available. We NEED a kicker too. What are we doing with the kicking situation??? What about OLB? Are we done with the LB situation or do we go after Arrington or Peterson. Although he is a bad seed. Arrington seems like a guy that Parcells could turn into Lawrence Taylor. Ware and Arington would definately be scary.

Just so everyone knows, I am not Chinese, I am from dallas. I am in China on a 2 year contract. Thanks for listening.

I just read an artical on espn by Skip Bayless. Says this whole TO thing will implode and basically Jerry Jones doesnt know what he’s doing. so if Skip Bayless said it… The Cowboys will OWN the Next 3 SuperBowls…. think about it …WHEN has Sip Bayless EVER been right as far as the Cowboys are concerned?

That’s good cause we don’t go for commies around here………jk. :)

BoyFanInChina:

I couldn`t tell from your accent !

I thought you were actually in Taiwan trying to throw us off !

Only kidding. Enjoy your post. Keep em comin !

Nethys,
I agree with you 100%, I read the same article and……….

Thanks Jesse NY…… you are the first person on this blog to respond to my posts.

No Offense but skip bayless is the biggest horse A$$ this side of the continental divide. The man should be a weather forecaster because he is wrong most of the time. Not to mention you can get more insight from a 5 year old girl.

Yes I`m a big fan !!!

…total agreement on Bayless….

…the horses @ss part.

Well, Skip Bayless alwas has reminded me of a weather man….a fairweatherman. I hate that fact that he is on ESPN and always gets punked by Steven A Smith (UGH…).
He doesn’t help the image of the Texas mentality.

Dark-
The Eagles fell, because in the Post Rozelle era of parity it is VERY difficult for teams to maintain championship caliber players and coaches for more than 2-3 years.
See pats coaching staff and FA last 2 years. the Eagles put all their eggs in one basket by counting on their skill players on both OFF and DEF and not emphasizing the role and support players. This is a dirrect result of the salary cap. you may keep the studs, but as his blocker, lead blocker, dump off man, lead tackler, etc go to other teams, the studs are left hanging. See Troy Polamalu this season after Hope left. The stud Players can only do so much after the core is gone. Also see Emitt, Favre, Marino. etc. They all want the big money, so they re-sign for huge $$$ taking up valueable cap space or leave to another team. D Mac was sucking, but he was exposed by the lack of support left on his team. ie. no running game.
Just IMHO.

Skip Bayless AND Steven A Smith… good lord,, after saying stuff like that, isnt it required to wash your mouth out with soap or something??

Jon B,

I’m not buying your version of events as they occurred between McNabb and Owens.

The first public squabble between the two came about two weeks after the Super Bowl, when Owens made his infamous ‘I wasn’t the one who was tired’ remark.

McNabb’s comments about being able to win the Super Bowl without Owens came 3 months later.

I direct your attention to an NFL.com article written on May 11, 2005.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/8463984

In it, McNabb is quoted as follows,

“I feel that if he plays or not, we definitely have a chance of making it to the Super Bowl and winning it,” McNabb said May 11, one day after owner Jeffery Lurie said the team won’t redo Owens’ contract. “That’s nothing against T.O. and it’s nothing against anybody else. I just feel confident in the guys that we have. With T.O., I think we can do a lot of great things. Without him, I still think we can do a lot of good things.”

Later in the article, McNabb is quoted again,

“It was something that we all felt we could have benefited from; having a guy like T.O. over here to do a great job for us,” said McNabb, who spoke to reporters after shooting a television commercial. “I think it will continue on. The sky is the limit of how far we can really go with having a guy like T.O., not only for me, but for this team. It’s exciting to know what we’re capable of doing when we’re out on that field.”

McNabb said he expects Owens to play for the Eagles this year.

“He has a contract,” McNabb said. "There is desire to have more money and there is the desire to lose money. That would at least give you the motivation to get back out there on that field.

“When you sign your name on the dotted line, that’s your deal, and that’s a decision you have to make.”

Note that this article also refers to the original comment by Owens and McNabb’s response to it.

As I remarked in an earlier post, there was no excuse for Owens making his original statement to the media about a teammate. Such issues should be resolved in-house, not played out in front of the press. Regardless of how you feel about McNabb and the role he played in this ‘feud’, or the truthfulness of Owens comments, Owens started this nonsense, and McNabb’s comments in this May article (regardless of what he said before or since then) were certainly non-inflammatory.

The Washington Foreskin’s just traded Ramsey to the Jets for a 6th round pick. Not only do they trade all of their picks away, but they even found a way to turn a first round pick into a 6th round pick. What a bunch of boobs. They just know that they are too stupid to live when it comes to the draft and that free agency is the only chance they have to compete.

gunerklien,

You must admit that the safty team of polomu and whoever, should still be a good safty tandem.
Am I wrong…maybe… only if they don’t replace chris hope responsibily. I am not a pittsburg fan, but I do believe that Cowher would not let him go if he was not confident that he can replace him with a competent player.

Nethy,
So you get my point.

Quote swirvin:

“Why do we care what kind of impact LA or anyone has on the cap? . If we do and we have the room why ruffle his feathers by asking him to restructure? Itâ€â"¢s not like $1MM here and there are going to kill JJ.”

Why do we care, cause its 7.5Mil worth of cap room that he doesnt deserve anymore. He is not the All-world Guard he was before. He is still among the best but he does not deserve all that money. Thats why we would ruffle his feathers with asking him to restructure. LA knows it.

Jesse and nethy-you two are out of line on this blog!

Everyone here knows the proper blog spelling for Bayles is @$$ not as jesse said A$$ nor nethy’s @ss. Geesh you two! J/K
Jesse any word from your contact on the Coleman deal?
Boys fan china (can we just type in china?) We haven’t responded because we pretty much agree or we just don’t know! LOL. Give us some controversy or something. I do wholeheartedly agree with you on the whole “Gell” thing earlier. I feel that team chemistry is critical. I think we can get it this year.
BTW anyone hear if G Ellis is as pissed off about the 3-4 this year as he was last? He could be a real malcontent if he chooses to, and we are worrying about others. Last camp he was seen often with his arms crossed shaking his head at BP. We better find a job for that mans talent.

Boys fan, true on Troy, but the team has one year of success. give them a few years and even Cower can’t keep it together.

Hope is a good player but not worth what he is getting. Over hyped & overpaid is what he is. Pitt LB`s are the gut & speed of that “D” watch how he is now exposed with his new team.

MR Bill-
No the week before the SB ESPN had a story on whether TO would make it back in time to play. They had several players (WR’s mostly) including McNabb saying that “we made it here without him, we can win without him” and “what difference does it make if he’s playing we’re still the same team” I’m paraphrasing, but you get the point. And again that was the week before the SB.

The Steelers lose players all of the time. They draft as well as anyone in the league and their coaches are good teachers of the game. Cohwer has put his team into the playoffs 8 of his 11 seasons. That’s nothing to sneeze at. The key is to draft successfully so that you can save your cash for the most important pieces of your team.

oh damn ramsey traded to jets for a6 round we missed a golden oppurtunity there for a future QB LOL

gunnerklein:

That was not me that was Adam on the Coleman rumor.

Thanks for the outlet guys. It`s the only way I can handle right now the fact that TO will be wearing the sacred star soon >)

On the subject of Mcnabb:
Who has the bigger ego?
Mcnabb or Owens?.

Think about it.

Primadonna or black sheep?
Mcnabb or Owens?
who is who?

Connect the dots and let me know how you figure it?

My feeling is that McNabb’s ego is bigger than Owen’s.

McNabb is the media guy, he always sounds like he has a speach writer.

Media Darling, “always knows what to say to charm the public”

OR

“says what he feels cause that is all he knows”.

I don’t know, just a question in my mind.

Jesse-
right, Hope was a support/role player. Those are the guys who support the studs and make teams strong. not great or flashy, just good, solid and important.
That was my point, but unless Cower gets a good enough replacement, that bit player may be more important than most people think.

that’s why Dannyboys’ fantasy teams never pan out-no role players for support and no chemistry in the locker room/field.

Part of the reason that the Eagles split was over how much money McNabb earns. That was the driving force of the split locker room. Players are pissed that anyone close to 30 no matter their production gets them sent packing. The Eagles paid for not paying their own in two ways. One they let some guys move on who still had gas left in their tank. Second they caused more players than just Owens to turn on McNabb because he’s was the only one up to that point to really get paid. It was like pulling teeth to get Brian Westbrook a decent contract and he deserved one if anyone did. You can blame most all of the problems with how the Eagles front office does business with their players.

Jesse- I thought you had a hot inside up there on the workings at Valley Ranch. No biggie though.

gunnerklein,
yes, china is fine :)

also on the Ellis deal.

I feal that if you come down to Ellis or Glover, yes I am suer that we ALL would love to have both, but as a choice I would choose a Dallas draftee with the loyal heart of Ellis.
I am sure that most of you would agree.

i heard the colemon rumor yesterday on another blog it said that he was to meet with dallas officials on mon, not sure if he will be signed but he should be cheap and give us depth at CB start at FS due to him already having played the last couple of years in houston it would not be a huge leap for him to go to dallas

I hate T.O. and i probably will still hate him if he comes to Dallas, but fact of the matter is, is that if Parcells is able to tame this guy he is going to help the Cowboys make a run to the super bowl. Sure he’s a pain in the butt but a lot of guys are such as K-Johnson and even Terry Glenn but it sure seemed as if Parcells kept their them in check. If the Cowboys can control this guy and continue to progress with these talented youngsters such as Newman, Witten, and Julius Jones, expect the Boys to be more than what America’s team was in the 90’s.

Skip Bayless is a total jackass who knows little, if anything, about football. He picked USC over Texas in the Rose Bowl in a rout (30 points or something), just because USC whooped Oklahoma the year before. Bayless is an idiot

Kathy Ireland! Was that the hot chick kicker on the movie Necessary roughness? That’s who I want us to sign!

joey2zs,

LMAO. Wow, what are you 12?

Look, I will say that I was wrong for questioning you as a fan and unlike your posting, I am not being sarcastic when I write that. I should have just said that I disagreed with the statement you made and not put “fan” in my posting.

However, I did question you as a fan of the team because suddenly with Owens arrival, you’re making statements that insinuate players will have to rely on him to go anywhere. I disagreed with that and questioned how loyal you were to all the other players if you thought they needed Owens to go to the pro bowl. I just don’t want people to start acting like the rest of the team is nothing without T.O. Even if I felt this way, I shouldn’t have put it in my response the way I did.

Now, where did you get “YOUâ€â"¢RE RIGHT! Nobody benefited from his extraordinary abilities.” How could I be right when I never said that? I wrote in two different posts that he would have a big impact on the offense. I also never wrote that he was overrated.

I am starting to agree with you on one thing you wrote. Maybe you really shouldn’t visit this board considering you are acting so thin skinned that you have to resort to getting personal and making a mockery of everything. If you can’t respond to someone in a civilized manner then just stay on myspace.com with the rest of the adolescents. I’ve had people disagree with me and I’ve went back and forth with a few bloggers like Sterling and Chandus, but everyone remained adult about it and I respect things they say because of that. Your response is more like the babbling of a kid in a school yard that can’t present anything factual so they have to use sarcasm in an attempt to prove their point. Sad.

Easy kids, you guys are stressing me out!

gunnerklein:

That was on the TO signing which is NOT rumor it`s probably the only true inside info I`ve ever gotten in my life. Too bad it wasn`t on a good stock !

Post:# 105 is Adam on Coleman

BoyFanInChina: Trust me not sticking up for TO, but Mcnabb had a lot to do with all the goings on in Philly. If TO was 100% wrong why would 3/4 of the team stick up for him. Mcnabb has choked on his team in all 3 championship games as well as the bowl. Fair is fair if you have to point the finger at why Philly didn`t win the bowl you have no further than Mcnabb to go.

i hated us getting Meshawn but after the first couple of games i was a fan , i hate TO but if he steps on the field and puts his heart in it and he wins games all can be forgiven i actually thought what he did to the eagles was funny to see that stupid organization fall and blame it on one guy is retarded but thats the eagles for you. If we sign TO we will get a super bowl performance out of him every time we play the eaglesand if he acts up ROY will break his other leg

Now children! Can’t we all just get along and agree that with kathy Ireland as our kicker we would all be happier and maybe TO would be too busy to talk to the media.
See, I figure we can use spears and MBIII to punch in the conversions and we only need to get 50% of them to call it good- Kickers aren’t real football players anyway.

Blitzkreig, joey2zs………..chill guys, we are ALL Fans and we have oppinions, ok, so what do you both have to offer to this glorious blog : )

got a good point there adam, but worse case scenario is if TO does come and he doesn’t perform well but his mouth does the Boys are up s*it creek and if they cut him, its going to hurt the salary cap

I need a green beer, Erin go braugh!!

The keyshawn test just told me that we could work it out with Owens. Albiet, Keyshawn had history with BP, I still feel that BP has clout with players…..ie……….smart players feel that Bill will shoot them strait.
So……..Owens may feel that he is in the place where can listen to a master and be heard.

again, I man be nieve.

Joker-
Maybe that’s why we aren’t releasing LA!! LOL No way TO would win that fight in the locker room!!!

correction:
may be nieve

I need a little help here fellas (where are the ladies?) We need to work on that. All the morons with the ability to produce articles feel that the skins yet again kicked @ss in FA. I’m I letting my hatred for the Skins cloud objective judgement. Archuletta is the only signing I think is decent. Randall el is ok, but not worth wooing with money. The LB is ok, the TE is a dime a dozen. Please let me know if I just hate them too much to understand. As for the ladies, my wife is a die hard Boy’s fan, she just doesn’t play online.

Hey guys. I’ve been away for a while, but I’ve missed you all. Been reading the posts whenever I can, but haven’t entered the fray lately because I’m in and out all the time. Now, it seems that TO may be coming to Cowboyland. Not sure yet how I feel about it. He is one hell of a talent, but his mouth and his attitude could be a problem. The sports writers promised us doom and gloom when we got Haley, but I’ll take that kind of doom any day of the week. Got the same promises when we picked up Sanders. Again, gimme the doom.

Now I know TO is a differend beast altogether, but I’m just going to wait and see.

I do like gunnerklein’s comment about LA in the locker room. Owens will not play badass with him.

i am not worried about if TO can still perform he is in great shape and expects more from himself on the field than we do what iam worried about is him being suspended or not showing, thats why drafting a WR wont be so bad holmes in the first could be groomed as glenns replacement plus it is by luck alone glenn finished the season if we sign colemon at FS then we can draft OLB in the 2nd.What would happen if TO is suspended and glenn gets hurt (which happens alot)we would need a holmes or a jackson to step in with crayton.Look at it like this glenn & TO now and crayton & holmes the very very near future

Meant to say “different”. Most of you know about my paws.

Randall el is a singing that is significant in my eyes, did they loose Moss to FA. Moss was our worst Nemisis in 2005, team him with Randall el, correct me if I am wrong, but that is a reason for concern for boys fans?

I guess it is just my hatred. I never thought highly of randal el. He is an average receiver to me. Now, let him return, or throw and he is pretty good.

Adam,

TO is going to be in shape. The guy has a monster work ethic going for him. That said, I think drafting a receiver in the first is a good idea, but I like Chad Jackson. I think drafting a guy now does 2 things for us. One, it gives us someone for the future while Owens does whatever the hell he is going to do, and two, it gives us someone who can hopefully fill the void in case we have to cut TO out like a tumor.

I can’t wait to kick off. Let me share an unfortunate incident from last year. I was at the Monday night skins game (which was incredible). With only minutes left in the game, I then began to heckle several skins fans. Needless to say, the next few minutes were a killer. I left quietly (avoiding the heckled fans). I am not going to feel better until we destroy them once more. Just needed to get that off my chest.

Josh,
My point exactly, don’t underestemate the ability of Gibbs to form a team. This is no longer the “Danny Snider’s team way of thinking”. Tell me if I am wrong. Gibbs is a GREAT evaluator of talent. Good thing that we have BP to trump his pair. : o

Josh,
God I’m glad you came forward with that. I wasn’t at the game, but my boy is a skins fan. I was giving him the blues until those fateful few minutes at the end of the game. Only thing is, I had nowhere to run. He gave me a ration of Sh!t for the rest of the year.

Have any of you been to a game. I make 2-3 a year, and would pay triple to do it. My favorite part is “walking the gauntlet”, which is the path from the parking lot. All cowboys fans line up a heckle opposing team fans. Now, it is all friendly and fun, nothing like philly. I can’t wait.

Not since I was living in DC back in 90.

Not very worried about skins. The fact that Brunell lasted the whole year was like 1000-1. No way he last all year in 06.

Glad you’re not worried Jesse. They sh!t kicked us last year, and they’ve seemingly gotten better.

Rob2:

We handed them the first game because we didn`t want it. If you remember we kicked the $hit out of them for 58min. Lets not forget we will be much better too.

Josh,

I had to watch that game (2005 game from here in china. I have to say, it wasn’t good as most of us knew at that time it wasn’t. I hope we can plow the deadskins as far down as they can go.
I hate to say that Brunel to Moss beat our defense twice in such a short period of time?
Jesus, the chess player was Gibbs not Brunel and Moss. We all took him for granted, Gibbs the, left the nfl for nascar has been coach sneaked up and found some has been QB to throw past our safeties for 2 wins. Gibbs first move as a deadskin coach was what? Brunel. This is what we call a classic match up between coaches.

Well, shit, gotta take notice, maybe he is the same cataltyst to Snyder that BP is to Jones.

The skins Offense stunk by years end, it’s their D you have to worry about. Sean Taylor is a play making fool.

Cash,

The pounded us 35 – 7 in week 15. That does not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling about this year. Their offense will most likely be better than it was last year.

Sorry, week 14, but they still pounded us.

BEing from Ohio I have seen what they are talking about with Holmes and Carpenter. either one of these guys would be a great pick at #18. Carpenter is a very good LB, if it weren’t for AJ Hawk they would be talking about him instead. Santonio Holmes is a receiver who is very quick and able to make big plays after the catch. I still feel that we have some value in trading down. I’m sure someone towards the bottom would be willing to trade up for it. There is an amzing amount of talent in this years draft.

That Bay(Brain)less quote did it for me. I am a diehard TO fan from now on. When can I get the jersey (what #?). I’ll be damned if I’ll be on the same side as ‘Brainless’ in this debate.

Ok, Week 14 was missing our stud farm to tha tpoint. The week 2 loss was with all of our talent on the board. I detest the 2nd win as they did not have to play against craton and henry…..correct me if I am wrong. We were all waiting for those two players to come back, and defend the STAR. FACT or FICTION?

Rob2,

Ya our defense was worn down by years end. With the Henry being hurt and Williams not bale to help cover our weakness stopping the run on the strong side it left us exposed everywhere just about. We definitely need better LB play.

Cash
The skins offense was better than our offense.
Shoop
I would rather draft Chad than Holmes. I think Holmes might have more of an impact this year because of this return stills but Chad will become a real #1 ok he has the tools be become a #1.

yeah Cash,
Lood at all of the positions that we have to cover………not unlike any other contending NFL team. the cool thing is that we have BP. As sson as he came into the picture The DC have been in the NEWS, I Like that.

Fact,

But a beating is a beating. We take credit when we beat them, with or without their stars. I agree, we would have had a better chance with our full compliment, but they still beat us (I’m sorry, won)in week 2 with everybody playing. Screwed up our whole season.

AW,

I’m with you.

i’d take chad jackson over holmes or moss, too. much better size, and i belive better speed, too

I think the number 1 problem last year was the “killer instinct”. They just could take control or put away games. As much as I hate TO, maybe he can provide that. I know Roy had it at OU, and LA has had it for years. I would love to see a little nastiness.

Sorry guys, I am on the other side of the globe from you. It is 6:00 am Saturday, while it is your firday night.

Thanks for talking Cowboys with me.

Owens is going to give us more help than he gave to the Eagles.

not take control i mean.

iam a FSU fan so i cant really like a gator receiever plus florida WR never amount to much lately.Anybody think we should bring george teague out of retirement to baby sit TO

Great site.My two cents on TO signing.I agree that JJ and Parcells agreed to this.Parcells knows what Owens brings to the table,and I believe he will handle Owens much as he did L.T. with the Giants.He may overlook a little showboating cause of his talent.

Julian Peterson comes to Dallas on Monday! Let’s see if Owens is introduced with Vinatieri and Peterson….

This is my take there are only two wrs that will upgrade our WRs if we want one it has to be in the first round. I don’t see us upgrading past that his year. I think we can get a good FS in the third round it a deep fs draft. I think we can upgrade OLB in the second round its deep in the draft too. If you want to best at any position you will have to draft them in the first most cases. Since we only one first round pick you have to play the numbers. The reason JJ is a cowboy right now is because BP felt there wasn’t must of a difference between all the rbs. Would you rather have the best WR, OLB or FS in the draft. To me it come to what is the drop off to the next one. I think FS is the deepest so that why I would be surprise to see one picked up in the third. I wouldnt be mad if we picked up Ko in the first but I think the WR position is a deep fall off from the first round. And I wouldnt be surprise if we didn’t draft a WR either.

aw-
Also, consider that some of the TE that will go later had better numbers at the combine than some WR this year.

Chad is the way to go. Forget Santonio Holmes. Chads got the size, speed, and Hands. Plus He is great at short routes. TO’s presence will put the safties upfield clearing it out for Witten and hopefully chad.

1st = Chad Jackson
2nd = FS
3rd = OLB

I mean, it wouldn’t be a stretch to draft a Te and convert to WR if his size, speed, route running ability add up. That could pull us out of a “have to go in rd 1” scenario.

This team is going to be sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chandus
I don’t know if I would want Peterson he looks a little lite, I think his teammate would have been a bitter pickup(cater I think is his name) I know he already sign with someone but I would have liked us to have tried to get him.

I think than JJ-BP have a plan.

Might go like this…..

What better was to begin the T.O. “Make-Over” than to have him introduced to the HomeCrowd at a “group” press conference with ALL the other new signee’son stage together . Begin teaching the new team lesson; that he is just a guy till he proves otherwise. Bill Parcells the ego whisperer (except when he yell’s) no doubt about it Jerrah know how to create a spectacle and buzz and ratings It’s all about drama T.O. v. B. P

that is gonna be engaging , interesting AND entertaining.

THE filly game is gonna overshadow the skins next year

Mr. Bill…

your talking about after the super bowl. The comments I am referring to were Mr. McNabb talking about the eagles chances during their run to the Super Bowl when he missed the last two games and the playoffs but returned for the big game. McNabb repeatedly said……“We don’t need TO to get to the Super Bowl…..and we can win without him”

The Cowboys finally released its second round pick from 2004, what a bust, Jacob Rogers,
http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstorync/stories/031806cprogers.354ca64e.html

Alds-
I agree with the OLB in late 1st day. I think we are okay at OLB now with A Singleton and…and uh…oh $h!t we need a OLB early in day one! hey, it might not be Carpenter, but it will be good.
Look at needs.
TE-deep pool
WR-No need for a few years late rd try for steal
OT-good choice, but w/BP’s history don’t count on it.
OG-not anymore after…(what’s his name) signed.
C-two SLIGHTLY above average already-
DE-real good
NT-backup runstopper needed, maybe 2nd?
S-too deep this year look in late rd
CB-good to go
ILB-good to go
OLB-YES NEED RD 1 Talent NOW!

So, OLB.
S will come later, and NT will be a backup this year.
There, I’ve solved all your offseason problems, anything else I can help you with?
Watch me be wrong! LOL.

Jon B,

I agree he could have said that differently, but I think he was responding to reporters asking if he thought they could still win. It was really a no win question. As a leader, he had to be positive and say yes, but like I said, I agree with you that it may have started the problems because of the way he worded it.

Chandus,

Where did you hear about peterson. I’m not sold on the guy, but he was a monster before the injury.

Jon,

You bring up the same arguement I did about McNabb not being too supportive.

Derrick-
Thanks, good read. Does this mean He cannot come to camp, or that he will not be paid 2nd rd draft money$? I hope it means, Sure kid you can try out. But we aint payin’ squat for it.
Anyone know if that’s the case?

To all the T.O. haters who have said, he is a “cancer” and has never won or can’t win. … There is only one reason why Owens doesn’t have a ring, and he goes by the name of McNabb.

Josh,
I went to the 1st Giants game last year.(My first game) I sat in the handicapped seating. It was very close to the field, but it’s in the corner so it was tough to tell exactly what was happening. The # of turnovers (9)was insane! Cortez characteristically missed 2 FGs. The defense won the game. I didn’t realize the injury to Flozell Adams would have such an impact on the team. Crayton hurt his ankle in that game also. I was relieved when we won the OT coin toss, suceeded by the game-winning FG. It would’ve been a dissapointing 6-hour drive back to Midland, TX without the win!

If Berr-o is a SS than when sorta need a FS. If Berr-o is a FS then we appear to be really hurting for SS?

Chandus,

I doubt Viniatari, but the other two ain’t that bad.

Peterson weighs the same as Roy. I would like to see him come in if the price is right and he would be for depth. Good role player.

Anyone know if Lawrence phillips is still available?

That article on Rogers is surprising. Something new must have happened with this guy. It wouldn’t have cost them anything more to bring him into camp, so for them to choose not to even do that says to me that they either have someone else in mind, or his rehab isn’t going as well as expected. Either way, we’ve got ourselves a bust. Now it will really piss me off if this guy goes somewhere else and becomes the player we hoped he would.

This Saturday, Drew Henson plays in Europe. The game will be telivised by NFL Network. I will be watching to see just how good/or bad he is doing. .. If he is a bust, Joey Harrington may soon be available.

Gunner,

Lawrence Phillips IS available, but you’ll have to wait until he gets out of jail, again!

KCE
Berro-o isnt a FS and its not like this guy was a high pick last year for people to be counting on him to do anything.

So we are marginal at FS and got nobody to back up Roy. Better back him up in case TO takes him out in the locker room.

I think I agree with the poster who suggested that we take care of NT by using Spears. He as big as Ferguson and could serve as his backup as well as playing DE. We are fairly deep at DE with Elis, Canty, Ratliff and Coleman as well as Spears. This develops our long term NT solution and frees up a roster spot for another need.

I don’t see us drafting a WR in the first round. First, they are rarely difference makers in their rookie year. Second, it is a week draft for WR’s and next year will be deep. With TO on board there’s no need to act now for a long term replacement.

We do need a tackle for the future not only for RT to as an ultimate replacement for Flo. I see us drafting one of the OT’s in round 1, OLB/FS in round 2 and OLB/FS in round 3. Of course, all this is subject to someone falling and presenting an opportunity we can’t ignore.

Berry-o Was a good steal, showed a lot of promise, played well against second/third tier players in PRE-SEASON.
He is a good player, but is more DB in the mold of Bill Bates, the nickel down, Special teams expert.

Re Rodgers. They probably wanted to take the cap hit this year when they have cap space rather than next year when they have to sign Roy and others to long term deals. If Rodgers maked the team, they can sign a new contact but if he doesn’t they take the hit in 2006 rather than 2007.

Gunner,
With that said, is Reeves going to be a decent FS. Looks like Davis is a special teams warrior and that’s it. Also I assume Dixon will always be a fringe SS.

Right, that’s what I was hoping for something like that. He pissed me off, but he may pan out. if nothing else provide a challenge at the position. Also, I never believe the Mediots when they throw around numbers.
They said he’ll count 850,000 against this years cap. That probably means he will recieve 850K/year in the last few years of his contract if he’d stayed.

Good find Derrick, that’s a shame that we had to waste a 2nd round pick like that. Parcells just doesn’t seem to have a knack for selecting OL in the draft; at least not with the Cowboys. Rogers is gone and Peterman and Johnson are suspect. I’m not counting Pettiti, at the sixth round, that was a wild shot in the dark. Seems sort of clear now though that we’ll probably look for a young tackle in the draft…I hope he does a little better this time.

While I don’t know the situation, I just don’t think it makes much sense to not bring the guy in and see what he can do. His situation must really be bad because we REALLY need offensinve linemen right now.

kce
Reeves is not a FS.
Swidge
I dont think spears is a NT and ellis isnt a starter anymore. We might not need a NT this year if johnson is going to be the back up.

Davis was Okay just not a coverage guy. In some schemes he could be just fine, just not here. So yeah, mostly spt. Dixon is a role player, support guy who as a rd 2 could be the man?, and Reeves is nothing but a pet project.
BP (love him to death) HAS an ego and sometimes thinks he can take a phenomenal athlete and turn him into an all-star football player. Problem is that there’s two differnt critters.
Polite (FB) May be the best athlete on the team, but he was an ILB in school, and never a very good FB. Could be someday, but not yet. Same with Reeves, and also copper. Late rd steals if they turn out.
Lynn scott, willie pyle are same mold.
Dixon was rd 2 and he could come around as the pet project.

aw
I’m thinking Reeves has been working some at FS.
Also how come Spears can’t play NT. On paper he’s got 1" and 5 lbs. on Fergie. I also think he’s got a quicker first step?

AW-
 pepper J is kinda small though.

All,
Need your prayer. I had a surgery couple of days ago.. Things are going well. I had deviated septum.. Its fixed, it just very uncomfortable right now.

Get well, toast-
I need your enlightenment.
while you’re out do me up a new mock draft to stay busy okay? Take care, buddy.

You brainiacs help me out.
What is our priority.
We are possibly getting a blocking TE via FA. A superstar WR (ask him) via FA.
I’m thinking OT then S (best available SS or FS).
Though that Mangold at C would certainly deserve consideration in here somewhere.

You gotta be a fast healer when your “Toast”

KCE
Wasnt Reeves playing CB when and playing well or was it Jones. They both are getting better who ever was playing last year made a big jump and either is a FS they may play it on 3 and real long but not FS. And spears was drafted to play end. Ellis isnt a starter in the 3-4 as we all saw last year. When Canty got hurt Ellis wasnt put in to start.
gunnerklein
I thought johnson was playing nt last year.

trade down and pick mangold up in the 2nd and I’m happy, reach for him in the 1st and i’m not- Where do you get him, where will he last untill? AJ may turn out to be good-He’s still young in football years and gets 2 more years from me.
Besides, AJ WAS all Playboy College team his senior year, and THAT says something for me!!!LOL

WOW RAF 243 Comments to this one!! Go theboys.com!!!

i just wish we could get a solid answer on the whole TO deal. get it over with so we can move on to other things like a damn kicker…

Pepper is a NT, but not the prototypical big beefy, strong run stuffer. Probably why he wasn’t drafted. He’s a hustle up player.

Mike, I told you we are signing that hot kicker chick (Kathy Ireland?) from the movie necessary roughness.

And Bill Goldberg at NT

aw
Jones did the CB thing with up/down results as I recall. Reeves did some FS work but has no pedigree to lean on yet.
Gunner,
drafting a C in the 1st rnd just seems weird for some reason.

Okay toast, you’re on the prayer list. Get well soon.

Pepper might have to do a little time at NT since he has the experience. Maybe they can bring Spears along, but only in certain situations to spell Ferguson. Maybe they draft a guy in the middle rounds.

hey just wondering why is Bill Parcells nicknamed “Tuna”?

Here’s Dixons’ BIO.
PRO: Tony Dixon evolved into a very integral part of the Cowboys’ defense in his second season in Dallas. Built from the same mold as the club’s hard-hitting Darren Woodson, Dixon should help shore up the team’s defense against both the pass and run. After a rookie campaign that saw him limited by injuries, Dixon bounced back in 2002 and became a key cog in the secondary and on special teams. His work in the nickel package and in place of an injured Darren Woodson gave him the opportunity to get on the field and show everyone the talent that made him a second round draft choice in 2001. He has shown a willingness to fill the holes and play aggressively near the line of scrimmage, but he is not limited to being a tough tackling run-stuffer. Dixon has also displayed good instincts in the passing game to go with the speed to cover ground in the secondary. On top of the physical package, Dixon also has the smarts to handle the added pressure of calling shots in the defensive secondary, having excelled in the classroom and graduated from Alabama in just three and a half years.

Gotta run guys. She who runs my life is calling. Til next time.

KCE:
Reeves didn’t played a single snap at FS last season, the snaps he was on the field on Defense were in the Nickel in Henry’s place (RCB).

gunner:
Johnson is small right now, but you do need to see the big picture, he started the season at 290lbs, he finished the season at 300. Look for him to be at 310 by Training Camp time. That’s Fergie kind of size.

Someone called him charlie the tuna once as a smartassed comment in training camp at NYG. Since then it stuck and he thought it was funny. Stupid story, but true.

Chandus-
Right, I never said he wasn’t the answer, just that he was “kinda small” and not the ideal size. I like the kid.

Luke:
Because in his first year coaching, the players used to play with rookie coaches, they tried to do something to him and he told them: “What do you fellas think that I am, a Tuna?”

As soon as his rookie year he was already showing the character that made him one of the best.

I would still like to see the Cowboys sign K.J. he will help move the chains and help get those hard first downs. He also will help block and was a leader in the locker room. He has no problems going over the middle to make a catch.On Sirus radio he claims he would having no problems playing with T.O.and would still like to play with Cowboys.

Chandus,
I have it noted then Reeves was moved into the FS position (as a trial) during training camp last year. Any implication that he worked FS during the season was accidental. I stand corrected.

Just saw a clip of George Teague hitting T.O. Makes me laugh. He seems to have a problem with people wearing the #31 in a ’Boys uniform. 1st Teague then Roy.

Pepper may not be the answer, so i’m not opposed to signing another NT, but not early, and don’t cut Johnson. That has always been my position.

OKAY, Book of the day club:
    When the Tuna went down to Texas
By Mike Shropshire
2004 harpercollins publishers inc ny,ny
Read it good stuff.

Gunner,
Will get, but not to be outdone:
Tom Landry, An Autobiography (w/ Greg Lewis)
Harper (1990)
Must reading!

Chandus-
What do you think about Coleman?
The scouting report seemed to sound like he was a bust, and not worth starting.

Yeah Reeves never really played any safety but was in discussion to play there, possibly as a emergency role.

Coleman is a aging but experienced safety who seems to be strictly a cover free safety, thats good but because of his age he seems limited in his playmaking ability.

thanks gunnerklein and Chandus.

Whats everyones view on the outside linebacker issue? Get role playing Rocky Boiman from Tennesee? Draft a young stud? or stick with what we got?

KCE,

I believe that they tried it, but then picked up Willie Pile.

For a while now I have promoted signing a CB or drafting a CB to play safety. In this defense I think it makes a lot of sense.

i thought i heard somewhere that Grady Jackson from green bay was a free agent. He would be a nice role player with Ferguson and a little Pepper for the NT rotation

Joker16,
Now that we got Ayodele.

I think we need a L side OT trainee #1 (we seem to have RT possiblities out the whazzo), then a backup S (A. SS/B. FS – crap shoot)

We have some depth at LB (ILB/OLB) and the draft seems deep in backup candidates.

All this assuming we get a WR via FA and a blocking tight end (or Curtis/Pierce/Ryan) can do it.

gunner:
For the last couple of seasons Coleman has been playing in a 3-4 team with a kind of overrated CB (Robinson), 2 bellow average RCBs, 3 LBs that usually look miserable in coverage (Peek, Polk and Orr) and poor SS play.

That makes me think that he was lucky to still find time to make some plays, not so long ago (3 years) he played in a much more competitive team and made plays (7 Ints and 14 deflections), the year before he didn’t made as much Ints (1) but he made a whooping 21 deflections.

Believe me, the guy can still play, he just needs better talent around him and a solid backup.

Coleman is a pimp. Former Parcells player, good size (6’ 2" and 206 lbs), Dallas native and two years younger than Aaron Glenn (he worked out pretty well after leaving a bad Texans D). I bet this one is in the bag, probably announced early next week. With TO and Coleman, hopefully we add Brown as the new kicker, then draft can probably take care of the rest. I say take Winston Justice (if he’s there) or else Marcus McNeil with #18, either could start at RT. and then grab an OLB in the 2nd round at #49. Rest of the picks can be used for depth. Voila

thejoker 16
Personally, I’d like to get Carpenter or Wimbley as a bookend to Ware. I think the key to defense is pressure and we have a lot of questions on the other side of Ware. Singleton is solid, but not a great blitzing LB. Thornton has potential, but as it’s been discussed before, he hasn’t proven anything yet so we can’t rely on him as a starter. I think if we draft an OLB that can bring the heat, FS doesn’t become as important because the QB will rarely have time to throw it deep. Pressure will also bring more sacks (obviously) and turnovers from errant passes. I say trade down a few spots to pick up another day 1 pick and grab Carpenter or Wimbley (or even Greenway if he drops like Johnson did last year).

I think we can get a lot of value at OL in the second round and we can pick up our FS in the third. Others have mentioned there may be a few good DT prospects on day two and I think that’s where we should take a shot at another OLmen or a WR.

What’s your opinion?

get well toast.

KCE:
Do we really have depth at OLB? The last thing I heard is that we only have Ware as a solid starter, Ayodele is a better fit at ILB (good against the run, good blitzing and average in coverage), Singleton hasn’t finished the last 2 seasons and is a liability pressuring the passer, even on blitzes! Burnett hasn’t proven that he can stay healthy and he’s also a better fit at ILB. And Kalen Thornton and he’s a guy from which I’ve already talked enough.

The signing of Ayodele says a couple of things guys, one, Parcells doesn’t expect much out of Fowler and Shanle other than just to be backups. Two, he tried to move Burnett inside and he went down injured, so he doesn’t trust him, too.

So, am I supposed to believe that Singleton is enough? What if he doesn’t finish the season, again? Should we rely on Burnett or on Thornton? I wouldn’t.

We’re getting near 300…

Toast,

Hope you have a speedy recovery. Get well soon!

maybe its just me but i think thornton is going to be a beast.

Chandus,
Being a UT grad I am definitly prejudiced toward Thornton. UT’s players walk-on-water, execept Ricky (he walks on clouds apparently).

I see you leave out Ogbogu. No, we are not deep, but I am worried about starting FS and backup SS.

Gotta give Blitzkreig credit, it gets down to a point of philosphy – pressure vs. coverage.

Chandus,
LOL. What do you mean you’ve talked about Thornton enough. We can’t go on for another 10 posts? (joking). As you can see from my previous response, I do agree with you that we need more than what we have.

RParr,
Have you heard anything on McNeil’s back issue? The last I heard is that he had a spinal condition that teams were worried about and he was going to get a lot of tests during the combine. Did he do well? If so, I wouldn’t be disappointed if we got him. He looked good to me during the Senior Bowl (although I wouldn’t take him over Justice).

Just a segway,,,
What good is Barrow?

KCE,
I think Ogbogu is a UFA. We don’t have him under contract anymore.

manster65,
I hope you’re right about Thornton. I wouldn’t give him the starting job, but I was impressed with what I saw of him when he played injured last year. Time will be the deciding factor on him, but if Bill did find a starter in Kalen, that was a huge pick up for us since he was an undrafted FA.

Barrow’s gone I thought.
Depth/support role players are deffinitely in need at most D possitions.
Just look at the Pats and Steelers and their backups on the champ teams…strong players to fill the spots. Not everyone can be a stud with the Cap in place. In the early 90s we were spoiled with like 7 O-linemen who could start on any team. We will never see that again, so we have to decide D philosophy, Does BP want pressure, coverage or a balance of both? My guess is he’ll go for Balance.

Not sure Barrow has anything left. He was injured the year before we picked him up and he didn’t do much for us last year. I’m not sure he even finished the year healthy for us (anyone know?). He’s pretty old and I don’t want to waste the roster space on him. I don’t think he can play OLB and I actually like Fowler and Shanle for depth behind James and Ayodele. I think they both showed some flashes and they both have the size BP likes. Hopefully at least one can develop the way James did. I think they both played better than he did before his breakout 2005.

BTW…Has everyone been following D Henson? It sounds like he may be finally “getting it” He said he feels like he’s playing better than ever before and his form is the crispest he’s had including college. I hope that bodes well for the future. I know some of you have reservations about Bledsoe.

Barrow, signed 11/18/05, tore ACL, what during practice that week?

Blitz,
Looking at the UFA list (maybe I’m am behind): Marcus Price (ot), Tony Dixon (SS), Lynn (who cares) Scott

RFA: Davis, Shanle, Tucker

thorton looks kinda small also for a parcells guy. A lot of pressures in college though. He made the team (only walk on that year to make it) out of hustle and effort

Davis could make a good hatchet man to take out Brunell. (did I say that out loud?)

Once I stand corrected (sausage fingers).
Barrow signed 11/28,,, acl torn during immediately (game 14).

gunner,
Agree completely on BP wanting balance. I think we’re a little lopsided towards coverage as our pressure isn’t that great. That’s why I’m all for an OLB early in the draft. For coverage, we have Newman, Henry, and Glenn. For pressure, I’m not sure if we have anyone besides Ware. Last year, teams started putting the TE on his side and his stats fell dramatically. If we have someone who can bring it on that other side, he could be a terror.

Just my opinion, but as you can probably tell by the name, I’m in favor of pressuring the QB more than coverage. I think if you give a good NFL QB long enough, he will find someone no matter how good your coverage is. Aikman has said that as well. I think you have to make them “hear the footsteps” and rough em up a bit. Sacks lift a teams morale, they can cause bad decisions by the QB, fumbles, interceptions, etc. I know good coverage can give you sacks, but I think the QB’s are getting smarter about throwing it away when there’s good coverage. Plus, coverage isn’t as intimidating IMO.

my kingdom for typing skills!!!

If Lawrence phillips is in jail we can sign him! I think Ray Lewis signed from jail didn’t he? LOL

gunner,
Good point on Thornton and his size. I didn’t know he was only 240. I knew he was a DE in college so I just assumed he was a little bigger. I still like the potential I saw though.

Sean Taylor, Soon to be Foreskin jail bait?? Safety? Let’s sign him.

Here’s one more on TO, Hannum, And Rogers
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=0AA99FCF-E052-0B98-C9620525F11B9854

What about drafting Sims in the second round for ILB. He could be our Johnson or Vilma – smaller quick guys who clean up and tackle everything.

Eric-R, Young, Garcia, McNabb. They all have kept the most worthy high priest of catching footballs from the promised land. I don’t buy it.

MLF-
You don’t have to buy it bro-
From the sounds of thingd JJ and BP already have. It’s all over but the shoutin now!!!

Personaly, I think Key will re-sign based on his new market value and THAT will be the big band we’ve been hearing about.
It’s like OIF-1 with the “shock & awe” you all didn’t see it because it happened behind the scenes. Same thing here, everything was set up in advance and waiting till Monday!!

1. 300 RAF!!! WTG!!! This is one helluva Blog!

so what are you going to name the press conference the three amegos?

TO is going to divide this team in half in the locker room, yell at Drew Bledsoe over and over.. throw his helmet around.. and have $#$ up media conferences ..

again

This is Bill’s last hurrah.. let’s hope it gets done this year because TO will want the ball all the time and will complain about it.. and he will also want MORE MONEY no matter what his contract is for..

= doomsday (and it’s not the 70’s version)

how about Danny’s lost cause?

Mike-
Look into your crystal ball then and tell us who we should sign. Give us some validation to your claims and back up your thoughs.

Alan-
I don’t know that we need another small quick guy in the middle.
Our last few got hurt or cut. He may not fit our scheme.

I am going to take up for Larry Allen. I cannot believe that we are ready to just throw away the best offensive lineman from last year. That did require much from Larry for sure, but he has been the consistent part of Dallas Cowboy offense for so long I don’t know if I would recognized the team without him. He deserves the money due him under the contract that was signed. We complain about players always wanting to renegotiate and call them greedy. I know it is a business but my loyalty to long time cowboys has not number assigned to it. With all of the holes in our offensive line last year I would think we would want at least one member of the line to be someone we can trust. Pettiti is a sophmore, Riveria is aging and recovering from injury, Flozell is recovering from injury and everyone has been ripping Johnson right and left. Offensive linemen need to be able to depend upon each other. Some of you want to piece together a line from several organization and expect them to jell quickly. I am afraid that seldom happens. We tried to change two spots last year on the strong side of our offense and they did not play well together. Just the musings of a long time Cowboy fan

The cowboys continued their signings of young players today with the addition of Ryan Hannan to fill the departure of Dan Campbell,

http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstorync/stories/031806cprogers.354ca64e.html

gunnerklein, I buy that TO is a good pick up for the Cowboys. It ‘may-be’ that the spanking he got last year, coupled with the money he may have lost, will make a better player and team mate from now on. I know Cowboy fans, no matter how we may think now, are counting on it.

We have the future already at ILB. Burnett, Adoyele, and James will be there for years to come.

As RT goes, I cant see Justice falling, although I would love to see it. I hope Coleman is signed, then we get a FS like Watkins or Smith in the 3rd round. Go with Carpenter or Wimbley, and Eric Winston or Jon Scott in the 2nd. I think both can start, esp Scott who was a LT and would switch to RT.

I also think Flo was the best lineman until he got hurt, and then it was a crapshoot on who was best.

Derrick-
Thanks for the post. I’m glad we got our TE before he left. He looks good from here.
Lou-
LA is better than Flo- He actually calles a lot of d fronts out to him. Flo is more athletic hence his spot on LT. Flo will become better than LA today, but not yet.
For the record, I also think-no feel- that M Rivera will come back from his back and elbow injuries stronger than before with something to prove.
Sharp-
You are correct!!! Finally someone who thinks chemistry on the O-line is important. The Niners in the 90s blocked off of schemes using undersized weaker faster linemen. chemistry made that team!! Don’t give up on our line yet. Let’s look at the guys.

We need a kicker, and try to draft a FS or OT in the first round unless Carpenter is there I just think Carp is a Parcells kind of player and will be a solid player for years. Coleman could be a stop gap. Bullocks in the 2nd round FS would be nice or Griffin from UT in the 3rd he actually out played Huff in the Rose Bowl!

mlf,

No. San Fran didn’t have a team good enough to win when they had T.O. .. Philly on the other hand did. It sure wasn’t Owens choking on the big game. McNabb was aweful. I have said it before Owens was rumored to Dallas and I’ll say it again .. McNabb blew it!!! Owens has every right to be upset!!

Changing gears here, but what do you all think of Joey Harrington? .. I think if Bill is down on Henson, this may be a good opportunity for both player and team. Harrington can sit and learn behind Bledsoe. The Cowboys can possibly groom a young QB into the “QB of the future”. .. I still like the idea of drafting a QB this year. My choice is Croyel. I like his character.

Flo- Assuming he comes back from ACL injury he could be the best LT we’ve had in 10 years. Someone DC’s have to gameplan for.
LA- Even if he has the worst year of his life Players and coaches will fear him for his reputation and knowledge. Have you ever tried to really shove someone you’re afraid of?
AJ- This kid was on top of the charts coming out of college. He hit camp like a thunderbolt, won the starting job then blew his knee. That is not an injury you bounce back from in one year. He’s played in 04 and 05 rotating both years-LET HIM PLAY BALL. Plus he is packing on muscle and pulls better than anyone on the team.
Marco Rivera- This guy blocked for a championship team in GB and is still the same guy. GB has always followed the whole west coast san fran style, so 1 year to learn the system and gell, and heal frome one helluva back injury/elbow issues.
RT has like 1 1st rounder, maybe a 2nd roundere, a 6th rounder who was used to playing LT but switched to start every game.(gonna be hard to beat him out for the starting spot whoever you bring in). And don’t count out Tucker who played average and BP loves, or Price, who will probably show up at camp with 10 starts and 3 years exp.

Now, if we draft, at RT, he better be able to beat out all the above candidates at RT.
Backups are set at OT, and Peterman (3rd rd) who may or may not turn out, and Procter, who played Div II ball and is undersized.
Looks like Backup G (already signed this year) or one badass RT is what we need.

Wow That was my longest Post. I’m saying if we upgrade line the dude we sign had better be good and not some no-nqame chump (again!)

Eric-
The cheerleader fiasco in Carolina was real cute, but we don’t need the male equivalent in dallas with J Harrington. LOL
Besides He’s a chump and a weeney arm, Ask Raf what he thinks!

Hey guys RT is fixed Fabini is signed here’s the link http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372555

The only FA QB I would have signed over Romo this year was Kitna. He wouldn’t make a fuss about backing Bledsoe and he can play ball. I was in Ohio for those games in 04 where he came out strong.
If you guys are wondering about our “future” QB, check out Hensons updates on www.dallascowboys.com . He seems to be finally getting the picture. He’s had Vinny and Bledsoe to tutor him, so he could be Okay, problem is Romo is and always has been an over-achiever. He is competitive as hell and dreww choked on the contest. There’s also a video feed on www.NFL.com in the right column unde NFL network. He pay pan out guys, I dunno.

gunner,

backing up my thoughts…

TO has always been a problem to the team he is on. How many people do you know have changed the way they are in 6 months? TO has not been changed in 6 months.. he will always want the ball on every play, he will always want more money. Wanting the ball on every play is one thing.. (he is not modest about it to say the least) but he is going to want more money. Again. Here is a quote from Jimmy Johnson

“I don’t mind a little tension on a good team,” Johnson said. "But on a struggling team, it will destroy you. And in the long run on any kind of team, it’s not good.

"With Terrell, he’s going to be disruptive. He’s going to be yelling at Drew (Bledsoe), he’s going to divide your locker room. It may be sooner, it may be later, but it will be a negative for your team.

“If you want his talent, you’ve also got to be willing to accept that.”

I hate 8 year old football players.

nough said..

NO WAY on Harrington. Hes horrible, the Lions were smart finally dumping him.

Who would everyone rather have, Bobby Carpenter/Manny Lawson/Wimbley + John Runyan, OR Julian Peterson + Jon Scott/Eric Winston/Marcus McNeil?

Don Banks had this article on SI.com, saying how its so hard for the Pats so build another SB team because of all his proteges taking players from him. Then he mentions Dallas as one of those teams that take their players. What?? Aren’t all the people we take ex-Parcells players? McGinest was drafted by Parcells, not Belichek. KJ? Not Belicheck. BB inherited a great team left by BP, yet we are the ones stealing players from the patriots? He says we are trying to copy the Patriots roster. What a load of garbage.

Thanks gavin, good read. Well, that’s the Badass RT who can beat out all the competition we were talking about!!
BTW I’m now happier than a pig in slop. But does this mean no “group” press conference including TO?

GREAT NEWS FABINI SIGNED

Good job gavin

Mike-
Good points all, but the guy is here, I’ve met plenty of people in my job (Army) who not only change their attitude in 6 mos. but their entire outlook on life. It only takes one traumatic event.
As to the maturity of this team being able to deal with it, that has been my point all along IF they can put on tough skin they’ll be okay, but if not he could influence a lot of kids. I think we need to embrace him and, like the troubled street kid, give him a home and he will be loyal to us forever. Would you be loyal to those Philly “fans”?

Fabini if he stays healthy will make a tremendous difference for the better as for you guys debating who to take in RD 1 i absolutely want Bobby Carpenter I’m a diehard Buckeye fan as well and I went to 2 games last year and watched the rest on tv and let me tell you couple him with Ware on the other side and our defense doesn’t even need a decent safety he is great at rushing the passer and his skills are great and if not for Hawk overshadowing him somewhat he would have been an even bigger standout

Lou-
They’re just mediots! BTW NO to Peterson unless he’s getting backup pay, which I don’t see him doing.

Gavin,

Good find I overlooked it on my pass through the sportspages.

I’m getting a little more comfortable now with the “BP Master plan” Now that the O-line is looking up we just need a kicker and a FS. I’m still high on taking Carpenter in first round.

I see the decline of the Patriots happening. If Bill BElichek is such a great coach why couldn’t he get anything done with the Browns? Parcells put that team together and he has just kept it from falling apart. Who coached the Cowboys for that third super bowl? The team was already there he just kept it from falling apart.

Gavin, just for fun, give us 4 names of PLAYMAKING Buckeyes in the last 8 years? They’ve had some drafts but no studs methinks.(I just recruited on campus at Bowling Green and Miami of OH)

gunner,

Ok.. I see your point.. TO is here, what the heck am I going to do about it? I don’t have to like him, but I can hope that he does learn to be a decent human being, let alone a good teamate. Yes the Armed Forces do change people, the Dallas Cowboys aren’t the Armed Forces though. Here’s a Saint Patty’s cheers for hoping so..

Eren go brough
(Ireland Forever!)

Well u have a point gunner but in recent years O-State has been more of a o-lineman d-lineman factory but all things considered Mike Doss starting safety for Colts Chris Gamble-Panthers Will Smith-Saints and Nugent is a helluva kicker had a so so year last year but give him time to adjust he’ll be good all these players aren’t household names but their starters and they’re young with really good potential O-State will be sendin some real good players to the NFL this year and for years to come keep your eyes on Ted Ginn within the next few years the kid is a freak

Here’s Fabini’s page
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12356

gunner,

I’ll take the bait:

— Orlando Pace,
— LeCharles Bentley,
— Mike Vrabel,
— Shawn Springs,
— Nate Clements,

That’s five.

Gavin-
I know they’re good and there’s some talent there, but for some reason when OSU kids move to the NFL going back to the mid-90’s they seem to choke or turn average. I don’t get it. By the way I lived in exactly the midway point between OSU and Michigan. It got ugly. Go Bucs!!!

Whe nlisting Former buckeyes don’t forget Mike Vrabel. I’d list more but no time right now I can come back to it later.

Raf- Your good- but shouldn’t you be working on the next posting LOL. I’ll give you Bentley, Vrabel, Maybe Pace, though I think he’s overrated, Springs and clements are overpaid and overrated. But you got me again Raf.

ericR who has said BP is down on Henson? Maybe he isn’t down on Henson so much as he is up on Romo…but ain’t neither one of them driving the bus…….while Bill is the coach…….it will be Bledsoe.

Harrington? I liked mcown better than harrington……if joey cannot get the ball to Roy Williams, Rogers, Mike Williams? He ain’t that great of a qb. Mike Martz has made pro bowlers out of Kurt “the bag boy” Warner and then Bulger? not to mention……his work with Trent Green……if Mike Martz does not want him than neither should we!!!

gunnerklein,
Since I got some energy.. here is my take on Hansen.. I watched him at Michigan and was big fan of him… He needs some On the Job Training OJT (Navy term). Anyway, I was pretty disappointed when BP didn’t play him couple of years ago when we where out of contention to see how he does. I believe he’ll do great for us, IMHO.

gunnerklein,
Since I got some energy.. here is my take on Hansen.. I watched him at Michigan and was big fan of him… He needs some On the Job Training OJT (Navy term). Anyway, I was pretty disappointed when BP didn’t play him couple of years ago when we where out of contention to see how he does. I believe he’ll do great for us, IMHO.

Besides Raf some of those guys were drafted more than 8 years ago- LOL

JT the Brick on XM Satellie Radio……..Fox Sports Radio said TO to Dallas is a Christmas present and they are instantly the best team in the NFC East. Better than the Eagles, the new and improved Washington, and the NY Giants. I tend to agree along with Ayodele and another round of BP’s grocery shopping…….

we still might need a RT at some point…..last time I checked TO plays WR not tackle.

Toast, Being so close to MI, I got some good insight from my recruits on Henson. They all told me he was cooler under pressure and had more natural athletisism then That Brady guy. Here’s hoping!

John Clayton on ESPN has reported that we have signed Fabini to a 3 yr $6 million deal. Yessss!

gunnerklein,
I concur.. I always thought he was better than Tom Brady, atleast physically and strength wise. Once he gets some confidence from playing in Europe. watch out.

Fabini? Are you sure, he would be a good fit. Let Pettiti develop for a couple of years, have Fabini man that side and let Kosier get use to the system, sounds good but come on, are you really sure?

Fabini finally.. we now have TE, OG and OT and we think WR. We almost have this puzzle together..

We need a FS and a OLB opposite Ware.. 1st and 2nd draft choices

and I almost forgot the big NT we need to backup Ferguson

joker see post #314 on why only someone like fabini

Yeah but we might just get a 2nd tier linebacker such as Boiman from Tennesee cause you still want to have Burnett in the mix because he is still a young prospect.

Fabini is 31? Played/started almost every game but 3 years. b uilt a lot like Petite. has played in some big games too. also blocked for the leading rusher in 04

Got a point, i really don’t mind him coming, as long as the price is right.

okay how sure are se of this source about Fabini?

Just heard on ESPN that TO signed, per The Dallas Morning news.

Boiman is no bigger than any of the other names we’ve been throwing around. he’s only 236ish. same as peterson. hmmm maybe BP is thinking small/fast?

going to DMN now be right back

yeah plus he’s probably thinking less cash too.

We are going to ROCK in 2006. I’m jacked out of my mind!

Okay, here’s the deal
TO agreded IN PRINCIPLE to the deal offered by th DC. No signing!! Just a handshake basically. but everytime I’ve seen a handshake it’s been signed except that bastard Billichik

new postings are out

Jon B.,

You’re kidding, right?

Here is a team going into the playoffs and you are ragging on the quarterback for saying his team can win even without an injured player, who was not expected to return that year?

This is hardly an excuse for Owens’ comment after the Super Bowl, or for any of his subsequent antics.

I just read that Fabini will be in Dallas this weekend. Apparently the boys are going to check his health before signing him

my feeling on the TO thing is good. he’s the best WR in the L (moss wont go over the middle). He works hard, hardest actually. He wants to shut all his critics up and the way to do that is to win and behave at big D. It excites me, (to quote cowboys guy!) “sure he’s a shit, but he’s our shit and the man can play himself some football!” I’ll cheer for T.O.