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Cowboys lose showdown game to Patriots, 48-27

I’m strangely OK with this loss. It stinks, no doubt, but it showed me that we’re not too far behind the New England Patriots. I don’t have any doubt that the Patriots are a better football team right now; they came in and whipped us. After the Cowboys made it interesting by going ahead 24-21 in the 3rd quarter, New England showed why they are the top of heap in the NFL along with the Indianapolis Colts. They beat us in our own house, plain and simple.

But here’s why it’s not a total disaster for me, the Cowboys were in the game. They were competitive through most of the game and could have put themselves in a position to win it. With all that happened, Dallas was just one or two big plays away from seriously contesting the win. I’ll take it, for now. Because I think this Cowboys team is only going to get better as the year goes on.

Self-inflicted wounds like penalties really hurt Dallas’ chances and the inability to stop Tom Brady on 3rd down led to a loss. The Cowboys habit of starting slow put them in a 14-0 hole right out of the gate and they spent the rest of the game playing catch-up, and then when they finally got the lead, New England just punished them the rest of the way. The decision to kick the FG in the 4th quarter instead of going for the TD felt like a surrender of the game. There just was no evidence that the Dallas defense could stop the New England offense.

I think not having Anthony Henry available hurt us more than we predicted. The Patriots receiving corps and the arm of Tom Brady were just too much for a secondary that was stretched thin and had to put Nate Jones on Wes Welker for portions of the game. Even Terence Newman struggled to keep up with the Patriots receivers and Tom Brady showed why he’s one of the best to play the game. He shredded us.

Look, we’re now 5-1 and I didn’t expect that to start the season. I consider us to be in a very good position. Now that we’ve played the Patriots I know that we can compete with any team. We should get Henry back soon, maybe get Terry Glenn back, we’re definitely getting Tank Johnson on the field and Greg Ellis is getting healthier. I’m very optimistic even though I wanted to beat New England in the worst way.

Maybe later this season, just maybe.

ESPN recap.

I’ll have more later tonight. Comments are welcome below.

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My hopes for any season

start with winning our division. Then our conference and then the Super Bowl. These goals are still attainable.

The better team won today. Better today that is. The Patriots still had all they wanted from us. This is our learning time to correct the errors and to grow. As a young team we have more likelihood to grow better than the Patriots who are an old team in my mind. But our competition now is New York and Washington and Philadelphia. This year I want to go 6-0 in the division or at least 5-1 and win the division. Washington lost today so we are still in 1st place there. Let's hope we can regroup and take it out on Sunday's opponent.

by lee3022 on Oct 14, 2007 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah well...

The Boys aren't there yet.

For a while in the 3rdQ I actually thought we had a good chance.

Random thoughts:

Some questionable ref calls, mainly that PI on Watkins, sure looked like he had position and Moss ran into him. Should have been offensive PI.

Didn't understand the FG attempt late in the game. You could almost sense the entire team deflate after that.

NE is a classless team. The last TD proved it. Just take a knee and run out the clock. I still like Brady, but why would you do that? Also, Harrison is a whiny bitch, I wish Barber would have ripped his damn head off.

Up until today, I was merely tired of hearing about the almighty Pats. But count me as an official Pats hater now.

by APerfectStar on Oct 14, 2007 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the club...

I've hated them since the second Super Bowl title.

Living in CT you hear about them ALL the time, and now it's just going to get worse with every week.

Go Indy.

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

where we are
I have to agree with Grizz. I live in Maine and so have seen all of the Pats games. Offensively this team is a juggernaut and I thought Dallas did some good things at times but couldn't sustain it. However, the Cowboys D we see at the end of the year is going to be much better than what we see right now, and i have thought so since summer. I am now convinced that the Boys are head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC and can compete with the best teams in the AFC. I also hated kicking the field goal down 14 with 4 minutes left, what the hell was that? You're no better off than not scoring, because you still need 2 TDs but you are already at the 5. That and the penalties are the first signs I see that remind me I hated the Wade Phillips hire. There done ranting, let's shut down the Vikes next week then get a breather before we put the division away after the bye.

by bgcpark on Oct 14, 2007 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree totally Grizz

We can take comfort in the fact that we did battle.  We did put ourselves in positions to do some things, we just did not execute the way we needed to.  New England is better now, operative word being "now".  

by word smith on Oct 14, 2007 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I Hope We See NE Again

I don't think the last touchdown was a terrible thing, but it wasn't entirely necessary. Grizz is right in that we're not that far from the Patriots, but there was plenty of room for improvement. Had the Cowboys played perfectly they would have won. Had Kosier not humped the NE LB's leg on that 4th and one in the fourth quarter it may have been a different game. The defense was just on the field too long. It was good to see JJ running with a little urgency.

by jmangell0830 on Oct 14, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Classless

A total classess act by Belichek going for a TD up by two scores and under a minute.

by Cowboys81 on Oct 14, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing "classless" about it.

4th string running back gets a TD, big deal. First off, he wasn't "going for the TD", he was running out the clock. Secondly, Dallas called their last time out after that Romo INT. If they aren't conceding the game, then why should N.E. not keep playing? They were handing the ball off to the kid in garbage time and he got into the end zone. So what?

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...

I really don't care about it like others seem to...If the Cowboys are upset about it, tell them they should have gotten a stop on 3rd and 8 or more at some point during that football game, and the extra TD at the end might not have mattered. Keep em outta the endzone, and you've got nothing to complain about.

by N41D on Oct 14, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It

was under a minute so Brady could've kneeled on it. They were up by 2 scores and could've ran out the clock. I do believe we had no time outs left. Yes, it was classless. Another classless move by Belechek. I don't care if the 10 string was in there, it was total classess. I expected nothing less from the Patriots.

by Cowboys81 on Oct 14, 2007 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He "could" have taken a knee

But so what? If the situation were reversed and it were Barber scoring a TD, nobody would be crying about Dallas "running up the score". You don't want a 4th stringer scoring in that situation? Then stop him.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd add one more thing...

From their formation, they made it clear they were going to run between the tackles... playing traditional football.  If we can't stop them, that is our fault.  

If they had done some gadget play to score right there, THEN this argument holds water.

Cowboys and Tar Heels

by DalaiLuke on Oct 14, 2007 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BS

if the situation was reversed Wade wouldve taken a knee. Your missing the point. The point being since you can't follow, is there was need to run another play.  

by Cowboys81 on Oct 14, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see.

Then you are provably WRONG about what Wade "would've" done, since there was no need to run another play in the Rams game when he called a run play to Tyson Thompson. Or, perhaps it Jason Garrett who was "classless" in that situation?

I love how people assume what another coach would do in a certain situation.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 15, 2007 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FunCowboy

That was an unnecessary final TD. Don't give me the "well we should of stopped them" argument. Our D was spent, did you notice the time of possession differential. Yes they beat the Boys fair and square, but last TD was not needed in any way shape or form. The game was over, take a knee and run out the clock.

You are as clueless as Belicheck is classless!

by APerfectStar on Oct 14, 2007 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm "clueless"

Because I don't have a problem with a 4th string running back scoring a TD in garbage time? Who cares if it was "necessary"?

I'll ask you like I asked someone else. At the end of the Rams game Dallas had 1st and 10, just over a minute to play, and St. Louis was out of time outs. Their D was similarly "worn out". Take a knee twice and the game is over. Dallas called an "unnecessary"  handoff to 3rd stringer Tyson Thompson instead of ordering Brad Johnson to kneel down.

Classless? What if Thompson had broken through an obviously exhausted DLine and scored, would it have been classless then?

In the overall scheme of things, what exactly did it hurt to give the 4th string kid a chance to run the ball a few times?

The whole "running up the score" thing is a bunch of crap. New England started that drive at the Dallas 20 thanks to the Romo INT. Dallas called a time out on third down, obviously they weren't giving up yet.  The Pats converted the 1st down at the Dallas 9 then ran 4 straight times, the last three with their 4th string RB who had all of 9 carries in his entire CAREER prior to those 3. Hardly a concerted effort to show the Cowboys up.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 15, 2007 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

running up the score = Randall Cunningham?

was he the one that Buddy Ryan had throw deep on us to run up the score?  That's running up the score, not running the 4th stringer...

by Scoobay on Oct 15, 2007 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th quarter

I feel bad for Minnesota, as I heard Patrick Crayton just say "call us the purple people eaters"

On to my point...

Come 4th quarter our defense had to be EXHAUSTED.  They let them control the clock and keep their offense on the field.  Good game up until that point.  I also agree with everyone though, A couple of questionable calls, should've went for the TD, all in all though we were out played.  Our defense did ok...sounds strange since we let up 48 points, we just have to stop letting big plays and 3rd down conversions.

Random thought, when will we see Stanback, put him in 4 wide sets

by markdamack on Oct 14, 2007 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Its part of the game

That last TD didn't matter and the boys still lost the game. If the Cowboys didn't want another score on the board they should have stoped them. But damn, Barber seemed alot more beastlier in this game than in the last couple.

by Romo9 on Oct 14, 2007 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Barber

needs to start plain and simple

by Cowboys81 on Oct 14, 2007 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barber...

completely stopped running to punch a couple dudes in the mouth with stiffarms tonight LOL. I was rolling the first time when he punked Ellis Hobbs, but I fell out laughing when he slowed up just to give Rodney Harrison a shot in the chin...The kid was running hard as hell tonight, as usual, and I think his attitude really spread through the team in the first 3 quarters...

But I'm not going to knock Julius for tonight, either. The kid ran hard and had a couple of good, tough runs in the second half...

by N41D on Oct 14, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game was FRUSTRATING...

The Cowboys prove for 3 quarters they are ready to compete with the NFL's elite, and completely fall apart in the 4th and prove they aren't ready to BEAT the NFL's elite...I guess it's a nice sign that we kept up through 3 quarters, and health and the experience we take from this game will obviously help us later in the year, but I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth because of the fact the Cowboys completely played themselves out of this football game with stupid holding/false start penalties and an illegal shift that erased big plays and killed drives...That slow start in the first quarter garbage again came back to haunt the Boys late. It was the difference in the game.

Having Henry back would be HUGE if we meet NE again, but if the Boys commit dumb penalties and shoot themselves in the foot as often as they did tonight on offense, it won't matter...

by N41D on Oct 14, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eulogy

They played well, but,

  1. Penalties
  1. Refs (BS interference call, missed pushout on TO reception that was overturned).
  1. Meaningless FG late.
  1. Nate Jones instead of Anthony Henry.

Some guys showed up big: Ware, Ellis, Barber, Romo, Witten.

by sactown on Oct 14, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad calls

didn't lose this game. The interference call was a bad one, IMO but the pushout on TO didn't matter, Dallas scored a TD on that drive, anyway. There are bad calls in every game, you've got to be able play over them.

You simply can't commit 12 penalties against a great team and win. Just isn't gonna happen.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know...

you're not very 'fun' as your name implies.

I agree penalties in general killed us, but you have to admit (as did the announcing crew) that some of those calls weren't entirely necessary.

The PI on Moss was completely incidental, for example.  

But, these are the Patriots.  Refs must assume that if they don't score a TD when they want to, the other team MUST have cheated.

:P

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

The PI on the Moss thing was bogus, but it's going to happen. And it's not why the team lost the game. Sorry, I'm just not a fan of excuses. If you are good enough to win, then play well enough to win and leave the excuses at the door.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 15, 2007 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't you post on the N.E. Blog

so that you can diss the Cowboys with some of your Pats buddies?

Wharter

by Wharter on Oct 15, 2007 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

get real
It's perfectly fair to criticize your own team.

by sactown on Oct 15, 2007 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Diss the Cowboys"?

Give me a break. The Cowboys made stupid mistakes in the game and I'm not willing to make excuses about a couple of iffy penalties so I'm "dissing" the team? If you are the same wharter who posted on the Cowboys usenet group for years, and if you knew who I was, you'd NEVER accuse me of being a Patriots fan.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 15, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grizz Captured My Thoughts Exactly

I was hoping we'd win, and I was really hoping our defense would have been more competitive.  In one sense it was, as we sacked Brady as many times today as he'd been sacked all year.

And around the third quarter, I was feeling pretty good.  New England's defense was getting large doses of the same medicine that their offense was administering to us.  Romo was starting to hit the tight spots, Barber had tacklers literally back on their heels, and the injuries to Watson and Morris had me wondering if that was simply because we were more physical.

You've got to give the Patriots credit.  They took our best shot, and it was a pretty darn good one, regrouped and brushed us aside.  Officiating was not a factor in this game, and that last touchdown was just good solid football, I didn't see any malicious intent.

The encouraging things are, we should be getting better with time, Minnesota is next on our schedule and they have an awful pass defense, and we get a bye the week after that, before our schedule gets really interesting.  We lost to a very talented, well-coached, experienced team.  Their experience showed down the stretch, and we simply couldn't match it.

I'm still not convinced the Patriots have a free pass to the Super Bowl, but the are clearly better than I originally thought.

by kindablue on Oct 14, 2007 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That Pats offense...

Is absolutely ridiculous. It'll only get better when they've got their offensive line back in tact and Maroney back on the field...That offense can beat you in ANY way...Quick strike down the field, sustained, high number of play drives that kill the clock. They can throw deep or dink-n-dunk you to death. They can line up and run the ball down your throats...It's insane. It's gonna be tough for ANY defense to match up with that offense, and it's going to be tough to beat the Pats by outscoring them.

I'm not convinced the defense is top flight, as we left SEVERAL opportunities for points on the table by shooting outselves in the foot, but they aren't going to cost the Pats many games. But they're still playing without Richard Seymour, so who knows...

At the same time, I think the Cowboys are only going to get better from what they get out of this game...The 'big game' experience and 4th quarter meltdown could pay dividends later in the season.

by N41D on Oct 14, 2007 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington-Green Bay Game

By the way, for those that missed it, this was an underwhelming second half.  Going into the game, I thought these two teams were the next best in the conference behind us.  Favre didn't do much of anything in the second half, working one decent drive into field goal range.  The Redskins self-destructed badly in the wet weather, with two critical fumbles.  One was returned for a TD, the other led to a missed short field goal.

One of the reasons I didn't feel quite so bad at the end of our game, was the lackluster play of these two teams.

by kindablue on Oct 14, 2007 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Camp Cupcake

finally comes back to bite us...this undisciplined team couldn't possibly have expected to beat the best team in the NFL committing as many penalties as it does every single week!  I know, I know, Parcells' teams committed way too many penalites too, but I for one don't give a crap how you stop it, JUST ELIMINATE HALF OF THEM AND WE'VE GOT OURSELVES A FOOTBALL TEAM!!!

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE GARRETT ERA TO START!!!  How long does it take "Take it Easy in the Shade" Wade to figure out why he's never won anything???  

Here's a clue: Stop worrying about everybody's feelings and stop trying to be everbody's friend!!!!!!!!!!!

by Starred4Life on Oct 14, 2007 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come in off the ledge.

Geez...The Cowboys are 5-1. They lost to a superior team, that happens sometimes. Cowboys lose ONE game and you're ready to fire an experienced head coach with a good winning percentage and replace him with a guy who has been a coordinator in the NFL for exactly 6 games. That's nuts.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classless comments

Stop the hate. No matter what the Patriots do, people find something wrong. I'm sure you're probably ticked off that the CBS cameras caught some of the Patriots defenders enjoying the music being played on the PA system in the fourth quarter. Classless obviously. Just say you hate the Patriots because they beat your team instead of making up a reason to hate them. Whining fans. Grow up and move on from the hate. I logged on to pay some complements to the Cowboys, but you haters took that away.

by Windjammin on Oct 14, 2007 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently you read what you want to read

and ignore the rest. The Patriots earned the respect of most of us today. They were clearly the better team today. If you want to gloat about that you can return to Red Sox land. If you are offended by these comments perhaps there is some fear inside you that they might be true? Teams and organizations are what they are. It shows in a number of ways but the Cowboys team today played hard and gave good effort. No cheating from here and I do not believe most of would tolerate it if they did.

by lee3022 on Oct 14, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classless?

Nope. Just sick of the comments from non-Patriots fans if they inadvertently sneeze on someone. The Cowboys are a good team but I question the coaching staff, not the players. Your D-line is very good. Your running backs, very good (and I don't think were featured enough). Rebut my argument but don't psychoanalyze; that's a whole different ball game.

by Windjammin on Oct 14, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys fans

Are like fans of every other team. When the team loses, the complaints will flow about anything and everything.  The venting is silly at times, but it is what it is. A fan of the opposing team coming in criticizing said venting isn't likely to get a positive reaction right after the game.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said

And Windy, attacking our coaching staff seems classless unless you really do believe the Cowboys have the better players at all positions. So if the shoe fits . . . . .

by lee3022 on Oct 14, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belichik

could have told Brady to take a knee.  They had the game.

Belichik obviously has an enormous chip on his shoulder about the camera thing, and now he's going to punish everyone the Pats play.

We're fine with it, just recognize it for what it is.  ;)

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belichik's chip

more psychoanalyzing. obviously, you know the situation, and everyone involved enough to make that conclusion which is obviously the only logical one. Stunning.

by Windjammin on Oct 14, 2007 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stunning

that you're spending this much time on a Cowboys blog after your team's handily won the game.

Funny, I didn't spend any time on a Rams blog 2 weeks ago.

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go away Beanhead

This is a Cowboys fan site, don't come over here and try to justify shit. Your team won, congrats. But the arrogance is stunning.

by APerfectStar on Oct 14, 2007 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT

ALL THIS FROM A GUY WHO ROOTS FOR TEAM THAT CHEATS & IS A BUNCH OF CLASSLESS LOSERS.

DON'T WORRY WINDJAMMIN WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.

OH & BY THE WAY, WE DON'T NEED YOUR PITTY ON OUR BOARD GO BACK TO THE PATRIOTS BOARD WHERE YOU BELONG.

by cjr126 on Oct 14, 2007 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats ok

I totally agree with Grizz and also agree with John Clayton
They played well, but,

Penalties
Refs (BS interference call, missed pushout on TO reception that was overturned).
Meaningless FG late.
Nate Jones instead of Anthony Henry.
Some guys showed up big: Ware, Ellis, Barber, Romo, Witten
The Pats are dirty. Starting with videogate ato running up the score but thats ok. What goes around comes around.
They are the best,the cream of the crop right now. I believe they are at their peak they really cannot improve much anymore yet other teams will. I hope that the Boys will be part of that, I think they will. they have learned alot in the last 2 games.
Anybody willing to bet that the vicious stiffarm by MB will be outlawed next year?

by Sandman on Oct 14, 2007 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

always manages to annoy me with their articles...

"In a rare battle of 5-0 teams, the New England Patriots stomped the Dallas Cowboys as badly as everyone else they've faced this season, winning 48-27 Sunday behind a career-best five touchdown passes from Tom Brady."

As 'badly as everyone else'?  

Um, excuse me?  Until the 'bonus' TD in the last minute, NE was only up a couple of TDs.   14 points isn't beating Dallas 'as badly as everyone else', sorry.

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

I agree. Even as a Patriots fan, I'm sick of the fawning by national media. Many of them seem to just be regurgitating and/or maniputlating comments by a few, to sensationalize headlines.

by Windjammin on Oct 14, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh yes

ESPN, always managing to bring people together in complete disgust.

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

Still hasn't figured out that there are professional sports teams outside of the North East.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last TD

 I really don't think the last score was a big deal, but I have to say if Phillips didn't want them to score it he should'nt have called a TO after holding them on 3rd down. Taking a knee then doesn't run the clock. If we weren't quitting on the game why should the other team. Secondly if we can't stop their 5TH STRING back that is on our D as well.

by bgcpark on Oct 14, 2007 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Still...

it was 2 scores and there was like a minute left.

Unless Belichik is super paranoid because of our game against Buffalo.  In which case I guess I could say the Cowboys should be flattered.  :)

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather

They keep running plays than kneel down, anyhow. If they are running plays there is always the chance of getting a turnover return for a TD. Especially with a 4th or 5th string back in there.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THERE WERE 19 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME

I DON'T THINK THE COWBOYS WERE COMING BACK DOWN 14 PTS WITH 19 SECONDS LEFT ON THE CLOCK.

by cjr126 on Oct 14, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please turn off you caps lock

We can read your comments just fine without all caps

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by Dave Halprin on Oct 14, 2007 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what?

Hey, if you have a need to "hate" the Patriots because they let some kid who never plays run the ball at the end of the game, feel free. It made no difference in the outcome of the game. Again, if you don't want him to score in that situation, then stop him. If you want the Pats to run the clock out, then don't be calling time outs on 3rd down. Don't expect them to give in when you aren't.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

It just wasn't that big of a deal. If Brady had been trying to get his 6th TD pass on those final few runs it'd be different, but they were giving the ball to a kid who NEVER gets to play. Big deal.

Nobody was complaining at the end of the Rams game when Dallas gave the ball to Tyson Thompson on 1st and 10, 1:16 left and the Rams had no time outs instead of just taking a knee twice. Was Phillips trying to "run up the score"? Of course not. He was giving his 3rd string back some carries.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two more reasons not to be that bummed

Last year, when we lost to the Saints, I was devastated for 2 reasons:  one, we were up early, and two, I was terrified that terminal weaknesses in the defense had been exposed.

As to the first, in this game, the slow start by the offense effectively left our D out to dry and resulted in a 14-0 hole, which we were able to climb out of momentarily.  The D managed to consistently get the Pats to 3rd down the entire game, and I think if they had not been worn so much in the first quarter, maybe we could have gotten a few more stops.   Obviously, the slow starts are a problem.  As many have observed, this probably has a lot to do with our tendency to just run JJ up the middle on the first and second plays of the game.  JJ played well today, but not on those plays, because the defense knew what was coming.  A little variety will go a long way to fix that problem.

As for the second, this game didn't expose anything we didn't know other than that Romo and co. can drive the ball and score on what is allegedly the best defense in the league.  The Pats present a unique problem in terms of coverage since they have 3 very fast and very good wideouts, and we knew that, with Henry out, stopping that would be a challenge.  The Boys still executed the game plan of forcing Stallworth and Welker to beat us, and unfortunately, they did.  But, it's not like we were exposed defensively in a way that other teams can exploit.  No other team except perhaps the Colts has the offensive personnel to cause those problems, and defensively we will be better prepared in terms of manpower and experience to stop it next time we see such a threat.  If anything, I think we might have exposed some holes in the Pats D.

by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2007 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hammer meet head

You nailed this one. Nothing was "exposed" other than it's impossible to stop an offense with as many weapons as the Pats have (Ditto the Cowboys, BTW). Dallas won't face another team this year with anywhere NEAR the talent of the Pats wide receivers. When a team has that many weapons, you have to pick your poison and decide who isn't going to beat you. You can't double everyone.

I was actually quite impressed with all the pressure Dallas got on Brady against that Pats OL. For the first time this year the golden boy left a stadium knowing he was just in a tackle football game.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

watson out?

and didn't they play most of the game after ben watson went out?  

by Scoobay on Oct 15, 2007 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we all can agreee...

that next week is huge, even if it's against the Vikings.

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huge?

Nah. It's just another game. The HUGE games don't start until after the bye. Remember, Dallas hasn't played a division game, yet. After the bye they play 3 straight, the first two of which will be on the road. Take two, or better yet, all three of those and they'll be in the drivers seat down the stretch.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the Giants

...aren't in our division this year?

It's huge for me because I want to see how this team responds.   Do they come out flat & get behind early again or do they pound the Vikings because they're still the class of the NFC?

I'm hoping the latter.

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Forgot about the Giants, lol.

Every game is important, but winning or losing next week won't have near the impact on the season as the division games.

Let me put it this way, HUGE denotes the highest degree of importance. Beating Washington, Philly, and NY is substantially more important than beating Minny.

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 14, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

But I think next week is still a big game.  I want to see how the Boys respond too, but they responded pretty well after the Buffalo game despite the result yesterday.

If we want to be a contender, that means trying to win every week.  Minny is coming off of a big road win, so they will be trying to make a statement.  Our D must be licking their chops...going from Tom Brady to Tarvaris Jackson is like an early Christmas present.  Let's just hope AD tired himself out yesterday...that kid is ridiculously good.

by grapejoos on Oct 15, 2007 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'M DONE WITH THIS TOPIC

CLEARLY THERE ARE DIFFERING OPINIONS ON WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE GAME & IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND & I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE YOURS.

SO I GUESS IT'S BETTER TO JUST MOVE ON & TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS NEXT WEEK AGAINST MINNESOTA.

I JUST WISH WE DIDN'T KEEP SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT WITH ALL THESE DAMN PENALTIES.

I WAS HOPING MAYBE WE WERE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE PATS THAN WE REALLY ARE.

OH WELL.

by cjr126 on Oct 14, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, g'nite...

and remember, turn off the Caps Lock before you go to bed.

;)

by Pete on Oct 14, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only one team they fear...............
Looks like the only game they are more than likely lose is to the Colts. At least the Colt's can give them some real competition, their defense can put pressure on Brady, which he is not used to. On the other hand, the Pat's are probably the only team that can put pressure on Manning.  

by memphiscat on Oct 14, 2007 9:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would NE fear Indy

The Boys beat your Super Colts last year when we had less talent. Your team nearly lost to a much worse NE team in the playoffs. Give us a break. NE isn't afraid of the Colts, it's the other way around.

by APerfectStar on Oct 14, 2007 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only one team they fear...............

Interesting to look at the game stats to see where we had success and where we let down. Actually we had more pressure on the Pats than they put on Romo. The Time of Possesion, number of plays, and penalties hurt us badly. Our running game was better, our secondary could not stop giving up first downs, I thought we won the trenches both sides, and our avg gain per play was better. We had more points off turnovers, our kicking game was better. There were alot of bright spots, so even though we came up short, I'm encouraged that we are still going in the right direction. We need more "big" games like this to season the team and it would have helped not to have played an east coast Monday game prior to this one. NE is a full week prep type game, but that was the way the schedule worked out. Hope we see them again early 2008.

by Dorsett33 on Oct 14, 2007 10:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pardon me for the thread-jack.....

.....but it was painfully obvious to me this evening that the Cowboys have superior depth to almost every team in the NFL at every position except at defensive back.

Aaron Glenn was old, but he was a playmaker.  However, I'd love to see all the "release JuJu, draft McFadden" talk go away (and frankly, with the way Cleveland is playing, it doesn't look like it's going to happen anyway) and start thinking about picking up some serious talent at the cornerback/safety positions.

Look at the Texas DBs that have made such a great impact as rookies:  Michael Huff, Michael Griffin, and Aaron Ross.  How much good would a round one line-up of guys like DeJuan Tribble, Tom Zbikowski, Terrell Thomas, or Mike Jenkins do for us?

We've done such an outstanding job stockpiling at other positions, why not in the secondary???

That said, Go Cowboys, we're still in the driver's seat.

by allhailcale on Oct 14, 2007 10:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

We have to spend one of those picks on a CB, no question.  Reeves has played well, and Newman and Henry are definitely an adequate 1-2, but their inability to stay healthy requires reinforcements.

by grapejoos on Oct 15, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-1

Can't argue with that. Match that over the NEXT 6 games and they win the division, no matter what happens in the last 4 games. (unless the loss is to Washington)

I'll take 10-2 with

@Det (Kitnas arm will have fallen off by now)

Philly at home (Man, what happened to the Iggles? If McNabbs season isn't over by this game it will be after)

@Carolina (Does Vinny lose his social security  benefits by coming back? Terry Bradshaw might be QBing this team by now)

@ Was. (This game won't mean anything UNLESS Dallas loses to them at home)

by FunCowboysFan on Oct 15, 2007 3:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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