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Cowboys vs. Redskins: 5 Questions with Hogs Haven

Here’s the 5 Questions segment for this week, starring our good friend over at Hogs Haven, Skin Patrol. He loves him some Deadskins, so let’s see what he has to say.

Blogging The Boys: What's your take on the whole no-huddle offense that's so topical this week? Will the Skins let Jason Campbell run it again this week in hostile territory where it's hard to hear?

Hogs Haven: Hard to tell. I've lost a huge amount of confidence in the Redskins red zone offense, which has proven pretty inept recently, especially last week against Philly. Regarding the no-huddle, the sample size is still small enough where I'm not ready to make a judgment one way or the other, but I do like the idea of letting Jason Campbell air the ball out more, be himself, and control the game. It's only been very recently that our run game has started to look appreciable, so I'm not yet sold on a run, run, pass, punt strategy. Especially against a team like Dallas that is moving the ball very well and scoring a lot of points, we can't depend on an injured defense to keep this one within reach; we need to score.

BTB: I can't keep up with the injuries at WR. Just who is in and who is out? And who is a maybe?

HH: Brandon Lloyd and James Thrash are out. Santana Moss is a maybe. That leaves Randle El, Keenan McCardell, and Reche Caldwell. We added Jimmy Farris, though you shouldn't know who that is (or you might, he played in Atlanta a couple years back). Surprisingly, the most devastating injury is... James Thrash. He's the only Redskin receiver with multiple touchdowns. Whoulda thunk it?

BTB: How bad will Sean Taylor's absence hurt the defense? What have been his main contributions this year and do you have capable backups?

HH: You cannot replace a Sean Taylor. He is the best player on the defense and thus it is the single most consequential injury that could happen on that side of the ball. The impact his absence will have is difficult to tell, because he hasn't missed a game since 2004. Taylor's main contribution has been generating turnovers with his five interceptions. Beyond that he's played very well in coverage and can cross a lot of field quickly, which makes it much easier to defend both the deep pass and the run (he does that well). The starter in his stead will be Pierson Prioleau, though the Official Site says Vernon Fox and Reed Doughty should see time as well. Fred Smoot was practicing as safety as well, though I don't see him getting in that spot. The amount of people we're willing to use to replace Taylor tells you just how many things he does incredibly well. Prioleau is a capable backup, had actually earned the starting job in front of Adam Archuleta last year before an injury in the first game, but he is not Sean Taylor.

BTB: How do you feel about Coach Gibbs? Is he safe from Danny Snyder? Might he leave after this year if the team doesn't succeed?

HH: Yes, he is safe from Dan Snyder. He might not be safe from Joe Gibbs, though, and may just decide to hang it up. He's said repeatedly that he plans on honoring the full length of his contract. It's not an unfair question though, as I'm sure you've noticed the Fire Joe Gibbs website and multiple minds discussing this precise point. That said, I think it is a huge indictment of the NFL peanut gallery's now now now attitude that we can start discussing the shortened career of a hall of fame coach who currently has a winning record. Were we supposed to beat New England?

The answer to your question is I just don't know. It will depend on how unsuccessful the team is; if we manage to sneak into the playoffs, I'd say absolutely not. If we miss them in dramatic fashion with a late season meltdown, certainly that would increase the likelihood of Gibbs saying it just isn't worth it.

BTB: How does Washington go about winning this game?

HH: Have to win the turnover battle. The Cowboys are playing better football than the Redskins right now which means we need to play flawlessly. It will be especially difficult without Taylor and with our offensive line and receiving unit injured. The Redskins have to be willing to make Dallas defend everywhere, and that means a willingness to go deep. We cannot wait on establishing our running game to start launching 3rd quarter play action passes deep. We need to attack the deep ball from snap one and keep Dallas honest. Defensively we have to get on Tony Romo and need to capitalize on his mistakes; dropped passes by our secondary are unacceptable in this game. The Dallas O-Line is playing good enough where pressuring Romo cannot come from a four man pass rush. We have to take some chances and bring blitz. And we have to cover T.O. I haven't seen anyone attempt to.

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Concerning the steroid issue

Thought you guys would want to know, I just got off of the phone with a friend of mine, who is a bodybuilder, trainer and a friend of Matt Lehr's. He said that this guy that is spilling all of this is doing it just to save his own butt. Turns out, he was running a regular Tony Montana out of his house and when he got caught, he rolled on everyone he knew. My friend tells me that they were all friends with this guy, but that Matt, nor any Dallas Cowboys, were buying from this guy at all. Suppsoedly, the Cowboy"s" and the Falcon"s" (Lehr's previous team) reported were Matt, alone. There was no one else named.

This will just die it's own death.

by huslinone on Nov 16, 2007 10:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're right

Thanks for the news.  I knew he was singing to save himself (this sort of thing helps with sentencing), but I am glad to hear at least one person say it was just Lehr.  

by grapejoos on Nov 16, 2007 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Encouraging

Let's hope this story dies--I've still not seen it reported by the national media.

by kindablue on Nov 16, 2007 11:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good news

but if he fails to back up his claims the feds can pull a Barry Bonds on him and get him for obstruction of justice and perjury! These days the feds are serious in rooting out the demand as well as the supply.

by lee3022 on Nov 17, 2007 2:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nervousness About Redskins

Okay, I wasn't that nervous going into last week's game.  This week I don't feel so comfortable.

Hogs Haven has a good analysis of how to approach the game from the Washington perspective.  It would be madness for Gregg Williams to lay back and let Romo leisurely pick apart his depleted secondary, so I expect him to bring his most ferocious and exotic blizes Sunday.  The good news is our offensive line, and especially our running backs, have done a good job in picking up the blitz, the best since the mid-Nineties.  But the Redskins have to get turnovers to win, and it makes sense to bring all they have to generate them.

It makes sense for Al Saunders to be aggressive with his offensive play calling, too.  If I'm playing a team that puts up points like Dallas, I want to test their secondary deep over the middle.  If they hit on a few of those, and get some turnovers, the Redskins can win.

I know we're prohibitive favorites, but crazy things happen when these two teams play.  The Redskins were only 2-5 when we went into Washington last year, but they beat us.  The last time we won the Super Bowl, the Redskins were 6-10, and they swept us.

We should win, but given all the history between these two teams, I'm going to hold my breath Sunday starting at 4pm.

by kindablue on Nov 16, 2007 11:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty confident

we'll find a way to win - this isn't a one-dimensional team, after all.

If they shut down the pass, expect JJ and MB3 to get a lot of action.

by Pete on Nov 16, 2007 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually thought...

That Skin Patrol was grasping at straws.  I can't imagine a worse idea for the Redskins than to air it out and blitz heavily.

Fans love the idea of throwing the ball downfield.  It's exciting, it scores points, and it looks good on a highlight reel.  What could be better?  Problem is, defensive coaches love it even more.  Deep throws lead directly to all the bad things that can happen to you when you pass the ball: sacks, picks, third and long, and eventually, bad field position.

Look at what Dallas does.  For all the talk about how they produce big plays, how far does the ball really travel when Tony throws it?  Tony throws a true "deep" pass (forty or more yards in the air) about once every third game, and that is almost invariably because he's spotted a busted coverage and sees someone running free.  Most of Dallas' biggest plays have come off yards after catch, not because they're running free down the sideline.

Here's what happens when you throw the ball deep on first down, assuming it's not picked off.

1st and 10: Deep throw.  Missed, overthrown, dropped, etc.  In very rare cases, big play.

2nd and 10: Run for short gain.

3rd and 8: Sack.

4th and 15: Punt.

So let's assume that Washington does manage to throw a big TD pass.  What happens then?  Number Nine and his boys come out, run off a seven-minute drive that begins to wear down the Skins defense, and get the score back.  And if they don't score, who cares?  They're gonna get the ball back pretty soon anyway, so long as Washington keeps trying to fling it deep.

The Skins simply can't win a game like that, not against Dallas.  It may be boring, but their best chance is still to play Joe Gibbs football.  Win the time of possession battle and use the play action where they can.  You want to know how to beat Dallas?  Go watch the Minnesota game.  They played the run game, forced a couple of timely turnovers, and kept Tony Romo as far away from the football as humanly possible.  The Vikings had several chances to win that game, particularly if they had had a better QB.

As for blitzing Tony to force mistakes, how did that work out for Philly and New York?  A strong blitz will work against 90% of the quarterbacks in the league, but the other 10% are in a different tax bracket for a reason.  Smart, fundamental, physical defense is the only way to really beat a good offense.  Stay in your lanes, don't take chances, and knock the living hell out of anyone who touches the ball.  Again, it's boring, but it works.

by Big D Bam Bam on Nov 16, 2007 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you got to be kidding me?

Cowboys own the Redskins, if this game isn't over by the 4th qtr I'll be shocked.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 16, 2007 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What does that have to do with anything I said?

I was just pointing out that I thought that SP was wrong in his evaluation of how the Skins might win the game, not saying that they would.

Frankly, I think it would take a minor miracle for them to win, and they probably used up that coupon last year.

by Big D Bam Bam on Nov 16, 2007 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind...

I thought you were responding to my post, Terry.

by Big D Bam Bam on Nov 16, 2007 1:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If We Owned Them

I don't think we'd have lost three of our last four to them.

This is a rivalry game, and they're usually not easy.

by kindablue on Nov 16, 2007 1:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True, But If We Owned Them

They wouldn't have been close enough to pull out an improbable win.

by kindablue on Nov 16, 2007 2:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Kindablue, you and I think alike.  The worse team wins in this rivalry a LOT.  We can't assume this is a victory.  I certainly like our chances, but throw the records out the window, seriously.  I think we'll win because we've been playing better recently and are healthier, but you can't take this game for granted.  You never know when another Buffalo game will happen.  I think the home cookin' will carry us, but this will be closer than expected.  It's the biggest game of the Skins' season.

by grapejoos on Nov 16, 2007 1:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I detest Gregg Williams

The year they went to the playoffs (2005-2006 season), he came to the annual "Beach Bash" that the Redskins hold here at the Virginia Beach Oceanfront... and he gives a speech saying how the Skins (and I quote) "kicked the Cowboys asses..." and how much of a better team they were -- blah, blah, blah... just to get the Redskin fans in this area somethiing to cheer about.

Truth of the matter that year was they did kill us in Washington that season, but they weren't that much better than us.  Williams comes across as someone who tries to look all professional and diplomatic on the outside, but is really an asshole on the inside.

And at that event, the anus on the inside definitely came out -- as seen by this Cowboys fan.

I don't want us to just win... I want us to destroy Washington and completely annihilate their D.

"It's either hit, or be hit... It's just that physical aspect of my game that has always been with me." -- Marion Barber III

by kcbrett5 on Nov 16, 2007 5:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting story

But I suspect the difference between a good defense and a great defense on any given game is attitude. So Gregg brings that to his defenses. I still detest him and all else in the organization just because they are redskins and I agree that a real beat-down on them Sunday will be deeply satisfying.

by lee3022 on Nov 17, 2007 3:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Usually nervous before every game

but for some reason, this team has such a different feel to it. I used to have those "oh no" feelings, but I really don't anymore - confident we are going to win every game - haven't felt that way about the Cowboys since the 90's.

I was watching the Eagles and Giants game with my dad and I was telling him that those 2 teams used to blitz the crap out of the Cowboys every play and it worked, because Drew would just sit there and couldn't do anything about it. I absolutely hated when Drew would walk up to the line and the Eagles/Giants would have (at least what seemed) like 5 guys lined up over the center and would come free. Now, Romo walks up, they look to blitz, he audibles, false counts, and throws to the hot read. I just don't believe you can do that to these Cowboys.....not anymore. You blitz, and TO goes for 50+ on a quick slant ala the Eagles; you blitz and Cryaton busts one tackle and goes for a TD ala the Giants. They can bring the house and they can be down 21-0 in the 1st quarter.

I think this game will follow the pattern, close early, close at halftime, while Garrett figures out what Williams is doing and then the Cowboys put them away in the 2nd half- 31-17.

by huslinone on Nov 16, 2007 11:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Loved the last line of the post

He hasn't seen anyone try to cover TO, thinks that might be a good thing to do.

Brilliant, baby!

by Incredifan on Nov 16, 2007 12:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't get the 'sack Joe Gibbs' stuff

Didn't they go 5-11 last season? And they're 5-4 now? That's a lot better than how most of the teams look right now. sure there's been some head-scratcher play calls that may have cost them some games, but that can probably be said about every team except NE this season.

If we win the Super Bowl, then we owe Parcells a Gatorade shower.

by Nelson on Nov 16, 2007 1:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I get why the fans are upset

You make a good point, and they are doing ok this year.  But this team narrowly scraped by teams like Miami and the Jets, blew a game against the Giants they should have won (and last week too), and got completely embarassed by the Pats.  I think the main problem for the fans isn't the results, but they way they've gotten them.  They stall out in the red zone a lot and play verrrry conservatively.  It's just not exciting or confidence-inspiring football.

Redskins fans also think they have the best team every year in my experience, so there is always the sobering reality check to boot.

by grapejoos on Nov 16, 2007 1:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I listen to the John Riggins show occassionally

And what Riggo and his two idiot co-hosts say is that the Fans are mad at Gibbs conservative playcalling.

They feel that in games against the Giants, Cardinals, and Jets, Washington doesn't put their foot on the gas pedal, take care of business and blow 'em out.  Instead, they've let their opponents hang around and either sweat out an unnecessary cliffhanger (wins vs Zona and NYJ) or blow a game that they had an early lead (Giants, Packers and Eagles losses).

That's the reason why a certain sect of Redskins' fans feel that way.

My brother's a diehard Skins fan -- and he feels the same way (about not blowing out certain opponents).  However, he remembers the Steve Spurrier/Marty Schottenheimer/Norv Turner regimes and he'd much rather have Joe Gibbs.

"It's either hit, or be hit... It's just that physical aspect of my game that has always been with me." -- Marion Barber III

by kcbrett5 on Nov 16, 2007 5:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am with you

Joe Gibbs has sacrificed his time and peace of mind and even some of his reputation to try to pull Snyder's mistakes out of the toilet. So he has some stuff on his hands - that is what happens when you have to unplug toilets. Gibbs is a gentleman and a great legacy and besides he is a worthy adversary for our rivalry. Now if we could only get him to stop beating us!

by lee3022 on Nov 17, 2007 3:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Redskins guy is clearly wrong about their Def

That is "about their Defensive philosophy in this game." (I got cut off in the subject line.)

This is not the same D the Redskins have played for years. I don't think it's nearly as predicated on QB pressure as it used to be. It reminds me more of the way Dallas played D in the 90's. It's more read and react, bend but don't break, prevent the big play, make teams sustain big drives, etc.

I think they sat back and looked at themselves in the off-season and saw that their strength on D is in the secondary, and have adjusted the scheme to reflect a reliance on their coverage abilities.

Tony Romo and the O-line have humiliated every blitz-happy defense they've dealt with all year. I'm praying the Skins DO decide to go after him.

I don't think they'll blitz a whole lot. I think they'll rely on forcing the check-down and trying to confuse Romo with different coverage looks.

by Incredifan on Nov 16, 2007 5:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Santana Moss now upgraded...

...to probable.

He'll play against us this Sunday.

All I've got to say is that we better put some pressure on Jason Campbell, because ever since Moss has donned the burgundy and gold, he's killed us.

"It's either hit, or be hit... It's just that physical aspect of my game that has always been with me." -- Marion Barber III

by kcbrett5 on Nov 16, 2007 5:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, forgot to include da link...
http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/2007/11/moss_says_hes_playing_ryan_oha.html
"It's either hit, or be hit... It's just that physical aspect of my game that has always been with me." -- Marion Barber III

by kcbrett5 on Nov 16, 2007 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to worry guys

If the Deadskins were at full strength, than yes, I wouldn't look past them either. But with the injuries on their defense, a spotty O-line, and Campbell still  maturing, I give a clear edge to Dallas in this one. I'm not saying they don't have weapons; Portis and the run game, Randle-El, Moss, and Cooley - but they are a conservative play calling team that relies on the defense (which is beat up this week) to keep things close. I don't think they will become a successful high risk, high reward team on offense overnight.

Any given Sunday as the saying goes, but this coming Sunday, I anticipate a comfortable margin of victory.
This is good because we have a short week to get ready for the Turkey Day beat down of the Jets.

by APerfectStar on Nov 16, 2007 8:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Conventional wisdom

goes out the window when Cowboys play Redskins.

It's just weirdness.

I am sure Wade will have them ready, though.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Nov 16, 2007 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

This game plan will be like no other this year from the skins. I would not be surprised if Skin Patrol is right and they look to throw deep until they get it right. Rather than die from a thousand cuts a banzai charge feels more appropriate.

by lee3022 on Nov 17, 2007 3:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's What I Am Thinking

If Washington plays it cautious both offensively and defensively, they're going to get blown out.  They've got to take chances to win.  It's a high risk strategy to blitz Romo, but they won't generate turnovers otherwise.  And if they don't get turnovers, there's no way they win.

by kindablue on Nov 17, 2007 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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