Dallas Cowboys survive the Washington Redskins 28-23 and go to 9-1
by Dave Halprin on Nov 18, 2007 6:32 PM CST
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PrintI’m too worn out to write a proper recap right now. The Washington Redskins gave the Dallas Cowboys all they could handle but the Cowboys prevailed 28-23. Credit a stellar effort by Redskins QB Jason Campbell and some good receiving by Santana Moss and Chris Cooley for keeping it close. Campbell looks like a threat in the NFC East for years to come.
But on this day, the win belongs to Terrell Owens who put 4 TD’s on the board and carried a mistake-prone Dallas team to victory. Tony Romo was able to get the ball to an open Owens and he did the rest. The Cowboys defense left a lot to be desired and needs to take a good look at itself before this Thursday. Andre Gurode needs to work on his shotgun snaps.
But given all the nail-biting and bad play by Dallas and good play by the Redskins, the Cowboys still went to 9-1 and stayed perfect in the NFC East.
Post-game comments are welcome below.
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Thanks goodness for the Romo-Owens connection
Witten definitely helped with 8 for 67, and Hurd and Crayton had two catches each, but otherwise it was all T.O. with 8/173/4 (half his catches were for TDs), without much in the way of a running game or a defense.
nice INT by Newman, though, too
that probably saved the game
I am terrified of the Packers now
I don't know what was up with this Defense. But, play like ain't gonna get it done.
We won, and I feel like we lost.
the defense
i think it was generally fine. they gave up a lot of stuff underneath and it seems like they've always done that. i think in an offense wiht moss, they were just worried about someoen getting behind them.
i mean, it looked pretty bad, but I think the problem will be corrected.
by ab03 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
true they didn't give up any really long plays
they gave up two 32-yard plays, but most of the stuff with underneath around 10 - 15 yards, and they did manage to hold them three times to a FG. But still if you look at the total yards, they had what, 429 I think? Not good.
Very true
though the real concern is how many 3rd and longs the defense gave up. 3rd and 19, 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15 and so on. There's no way they should giving up that many 3rd and longs.
shutting down the running game
the other thing they did well is to shut down the running game. Coming into the game, I though the Skins' running game was supposed to be a bigger threat, but Portis only had 36 yards with a longest carry of 6 yards, and they only had 62 rushing yards total, 18 of those by Campbell on the scramble.
Packers!!!
right now I'm worried about the Jets after they beat the Steelers today, I thought they would be a walk over too but after what our defense showed today and what the Jets did to the Steelers, I'm a little worried after how we played today
good point
Pitt is a very good team. Jets are not to be taken for granted.
But the Packers game will be one of the great matchups of the year.
um
except the jets put up 16 points against the steelers and they have somebody named clemens starting for them. i was more worried that they held the steelers to 13 points.
by ab03 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
Too close for comfort
I am impressed with Campbell, he looked like a seasoned vet out there. Favre might be a big problem for our beleaguered secondary in a couple weeks.
The Boys won, not by as much as I thought, but a win is a win.
I'm exhausted from watching that game also, Grizz. Too much adrenaline was released ;)
So glad the defense held at the end, great win.
btw
jets enter the game with some momentum. pull one out against pitt, holding pitt to 13. we have a better offense than pitt but i would be interested to know if their defense actually did play well
by ab03 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 6:48 PM CST reply actions
Hope that Flozell's nick was nothing major!
He gives up his share of false-start penalties, but who do we have to replace him?
Mr. Fix-it has some fixing to do
The middle of our secondary was incredibly weak against the pass
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 6:55 PM CST reply actions
he might need to call in someone else
for a fresh look because this defense of ours looks pretty close to what we seen the first week against the Giants.
Like you I'm worn out
And a little disgruntled. There is no way in hell we're winning anything worth talking about this year with that kind of performance. PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSS. At what point do we limit these? This game was terrible and I'm very surprised we won at all. It's a win but I sure don't feel like a winner.
man, that was too close
But I'll give the Redskins all the credit in the world. They played their butts off and nearly got us. NFC East - Toughest in NFL.
But damn, we just won three consecutive division games. It was ugly and closer than we'd like, but winning ugly is always better than losing pretty. We're 9-1!
by Nelson @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 7:04 PM CST reply actions
agreed
Campbell played very well - except for that last pick to Newman. They do deserve a lot of credit.
But despite it being a close one, sweeping the division series sure is a good feeling!
Roy Is Officially a Liability
What the hell happened to the player who was all over the field his first two seasons? Jay Novacek could show up out of Wyoming tomorrow and beat him day and night. His tacking is fair (he had one good one today) but is barely a part of games.
If there's an intriuging strong safety in the draft we may need to bite on him, or think about a Watkins/Hamlin safety tandem. Roy's just not worth the money they're shelling him.
by jmangell0830 on Nov 18, 2007 7:10 PM CST reply actions
First off
welcome to that reality bandwagon, we're ffilling up fast, but I think I can make room for you on it.
We dont need to draft a stron safety next year, we have one, Hamlin, just sign him to a long term contract, move him to strong safety, either move Henry back to free safety or get watkins in there, either one of those two is a good choice and draft a corner with our cleveand pick next year. Thats what I'd do. Put Roy on the trading block, take a third or fourth for him, but get rid of him, period.
you keep saying itTerry
but Roy and with each passing game, the chance of what I'm saying is becoming closer and closer to happening.
I forget which sports analyst said that Roy was
playing a lot more tentatively because of the "horse collar" penalties, and his getting flagged for some of his ferocious hits.
Maybe he could be the next Bill Bates on special teams.
Or we could just cut him
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
I was actually talking to some anti-Cowboy fans during the game and since it's clear we aren't going to change Roy for a different option, I pondered the possibility of changing the position name from "safety" to "liability".
I swear I love Roy and what he used to be, but to me it's becoming so bad that I'm to the point where I just can't stick up for him any more. He's just not good, at all. And believe me, that really, really pains me to say.
yup
and were stuck with him. He sucks. We extended his contract much too early.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
great character win by the Boys
in the past we would have lost this game, but Romo and T.O. didn't let it happen and this is just a special team and season.
Campbell looked great
That guy doesn't get enough credit, but really, I thought their line actually protected him pretty well. Other than Ware, did he get that much pressure?
Glad they went for that field goal instead of the first down.
only one sack
Campbell had a lot of time on most plays.
They only got one sack, too, so both O-lines played well, at least on pass protection (neither team had much of a running game).
Is that correct?
I thought D-Ware had 2 sacks by himself.
by APerfectStar on Nov 18, 2007 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Andre Gurode
reminded me of Rube Baker, the catcher from Major League 2 during the 1st half. The guy does everything else well but just couldnt throw the ball back to the pitcher. Gurode, for whatever reason couldnt get the ball to Romo cleanly. The quarterback-center exchange should never be that difficult or make me that nervous, so that better be fixed by thursday. Great win though, I'll take a W any day against the Skins
well, the Bill are in a giving mood
third play, INT, while on return, late hit out of bounds, giving mood is right
just a note
cleveland pick stands between 22 and 24 right now. Dont look now but Cleveland could be a wildcard playoff team, YIKES!!!!!! Jerry's plan kindof back fired on him.
How did it backfire on him
he got the third pick in the second round and a first rounder around the 23 pick for the 22nd pick. How did it backfire on him?
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
Nobody thought the Browns would do squat. Crazy.
by APerfectStar on Nov 18, 2007 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
I thought they'd have a chance at 7 wins
was just hoping they wouldn't put it together this year. When you look at their roster, they have talent through out especially on offense. Maybe we can turnover that cleveland pick to 2009 draft with someone, how about Atlanta, I'd trade that pick for their second round pick in 2008 and a first round pick in 2009, if they are so inclined to trade, because I think Atlanta wil still have major issues in 2008
It didn't backfire
we didn't get the pick we would like though. Its still a net gain
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
So was I
but that doesn't mean it backfired on him. Granted it probably won't turn out as good as we wanted, but it was still a good trade.
Roy makes $500,000+
next year he'll make somewhere around $3,500,000. I don't think Jerry can justify paying him that. This is his last year here.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 7:35 PM CST reply actions
only downfall
Roy just signed last year an extention, the mistake Jerry realized he made and one reason why he didn't sign Romo before he seem more of him. The big problem is that the hude signing bonus gets thrown on the cap next year, thats a killer, but I just cant see keeping Roy anymore he useless out there, where is all the pressure he was suppose to bring with this Mr Fix it defense, cant fix what cant be fixed, Roy just isn't a game changer anymore, he's just a liability.
No my number is correct
and the bonus money is not that big of a deal. We paid most of his 11 million bonus money already now.
And we are 12 million under the cap, which will increase 9 million next year. so we are really 21 million under the cap. Whatever cap hit we would take wouldn't be that significant.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, you have to take into account
free agents, possible two first round picks draft money, T.O's contract is 8 mill, rememebr he has three one year deals, and possible sgning of newman to an extention in the offseason. That cap will get eatin up in a hurry.
the 21 mil includes T.O.
We still have another year to worry about Newman. We have a lot of cap room don't worry.
We are in a really good position with 21 mil. At the very most we will eat up 5 mil of cap space, which will bring us down to 16 mil and that is still pretty good.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I realize that
but when you look at the cap, you have to look at players becoming free agents in two and three years down the road, Ware is going to get a boat load, Newman is getting a boat load of money, a left tackle somewhere is going to get a boat load of money, a receievr somewhere dwon the road is going to get alot of money, next year we mmight be OK in cap space but in two years, we are going to be up against it especially with all these high round picks on defense
Like I just said
we don't have to worry about Newman this offseason. And even if we do signe him an extension, we can always structure his extension to fit our cap needs this year.
And Jerry's recent comments seem to indicat they might be thinking about moving Leonard Davis over to left tackle after this year. In addition they are really high on Dough Free. I don't think we are going to resign Flo after this year, even if he does have a fantastic year.
And like I said before 16 mil is still a lot of cap space. Cowboys would be fine believe on that one. This last off season we were about 20 mil under the cap if memory serves me correct and we still managed to be in great shape.
Finally, and most importantly, Roy would cost us around 5 against the cap anyhow. Its not like we are losing anything by dropping him.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
They
are not moving Davis to LT, not happening, never. Jerry just hinted last week about extending Flozells contract. If not, Mcquistan or Doug Free will be the starter. Doug Free was drafted just for that purpose. Mickey just commented on this last week and said Free is the front runner to take over LT in the event Flozell is not resigned. They will do whatever they can to keep Davis from moving to LT.
Flozell will be resigned to a 2 or 3 year deal from what it sounds like.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
You think I'm lying about Davis?
go to 7:59 http://www.dallascowboys.com/multime...
Jerry said he is "an outstanding left tackle"
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Just because
Jerry said he is a good LT, doesn't mean he is moving him there.
Davis is not moving to LT, that's retarded.
Free and Mcquistan are the LT's behind Adams.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Ok whatever
point is we probably won't have to spend a lot of money on a FA left tackle this off season.
and Jerry said outstanding left tackle
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
because Flozell will probably be resigned or Free or Mcquistan will take his spot. Do you understand we don't need to draft or sign a FA LT in the off season?
Why do you think we drafted Doug Free??? To play guard..C'mon this isn't hard to figure out.
The last thing we are doing is drafting any OL early next draft.
Priority will be RB and WR.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
What?
Didn't I say Free might be our LT next year if not Davis.
Maybe you replied to the wrong post.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
ok
I thought you said we had to spend money on a LT.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry knows very little about evaluating Talent
I dare say, he's never watched the tape of Davis in Arizona thats for sure. Davis lets people get around him now inside at guard, can you imagine what kind of turnstile he'd be at tackle.
Dont listen to what Jerry says in interviews, the guy is a major double talker.
Davis isn't moving to tackle
that is never happening, it completely stupid of peter King or anyone to cintinue to stat it, its not happening, Davis cant play tackle, he's a guard, period!!!!!
As far as Rot goes, I dont care what a team offers us, get rid of him, I've watched his sorry act for too long, he's horrible, and if anyone continues to back him and make pathetic excuses for him and his play, they are foolin themselves, Gamechanger, he's a game changer alright, changes it for the opposing offense every game.
See right above you post
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Correction 15 mil under the cap
which is still pretty good. And like I said before, by cutting Roy we recoup most of our losses by not having to pay him. So the cap will still come out to 15 mil after we cut him.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
are you figuring in
Roy being cut? because if we are 6 or so under now and with the boost in 2008 that would only bring us to 12 or so.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
We would lose the same amount we would gain
approximately by cutting him.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I hope your
accounting for next year because we are under 12 right now, not 21.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
12 + 9 mil increase in cap = 21
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
too high
Burt. The salary cap is not increasing for each team by 9 mil. I think it's 5 or 6.
I'm looking for the current numbers, but prior to Romo's comtract extentsion we were around 13 under. I'm sure it's a lot lower now.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
You right we are $6,337,473 under
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showth...
But that will still leave us with a lot of cap room when the cap increases next year.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Brady to Moss = touchdown
I guess this will be the blowout game I thought Skin/cowboy was going to be
Originally it was Chicago - Seattle
That game would have been much better.
I'm glad they didn't pick the Cowboys game, they already have a short week to get ready for the Jets.
by APerfectStar on Nov 18, 2007 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
It can never be the cowboys this year
they have fulfilled their 6 primetime games for the year, thats the most you can play, Dallas player two sunday nght games and two monday night games already this year, they have two thursday games coming up, thanksgiving which is considered primetime and next week against the Packers in primetime on the NFL network, so they are done for the year, none of their games can be moved to Sunday night for the rest of the year.
actually Deke, they'll play 7 primetime games
Giants, Chicago, Philly on Sunday night, Buffalo Monday night, Jets on Thanks, GB and Panthers on NFL Network.
TD Bills
maybe they'll make this a game after all
now if they can just stop
a drive of the Pats... not holding my breath....
NBC
are idiots for flexing this tired game. Buffalo is about to get blown out by 21 before the half
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 8:17 PM CST reply actions
update-brady to Moss= three touchdowns
boy, glad to see the week off really slowed the Patriots down----NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
the score Brad/moss 28 washington Generals-7
Cowboys highlights
NFL.com/videos has Romo and Owens highlights as well as game highlights for anyone who wants to see those 4 TDs again
so
owens and moss were tied for the td lead...and then moss promptly catches 4td...in a half!
by ab03 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 18, 2007 9:02 PM CST reply actions
Is anyone
even watching this awful game? Like I said, NBC are idiots for flexing this game.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Bills with a fieldgoal, woohoo!!!
42-10
Can we just hand the Superbowl trophy to the Patriots for this year already. This is hard to watch week in and week out, they are just that damn good
NE
don't kick FG's.
4th and 1. Is it not surprising they don't kick one.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 9:44 PM CST reply actions
just a few comments
Redskins passed the ball 55 times.
Reskins were 5 for 13 on 3rd downs.
Redskins held under 100 yards rushing. (we havent allowed a 100 yard rusher all season)
Spears was a no show, again. Do your realize he was matched up with Cowboys re-tread Jason Fabini.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 9:58 PM CST reply actions
one more thing on
Spears.
3.5 sacks in 3 years.
That's not cutting it for a first round draft pick.
by Cowboys81 on Nov 18, 2007 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, Spears hasn't done too much
he has played alittle better lately, but I think its only a matter of time until hatcher takes the lead role on the defensive end spot in the 3-4 scheme
Redskins knew that they couldn't run against
our defense, they had to attack us through the air to win. What really impressed me was the poise of Jason Campbell in this game, this might be the game that lanches in career as an NFL quarterback instead of a quarterback that has potential.
Speaking of old retreads in Fabini, did anyone catch the Lions/Giants game, our third round draft pick steven Petermen playing guard for the lions.
My brother's a diehard skins fan...
... and his quote of the day was,
"It's about time Gibbs took the training wheels off of Campbell. It's time to let him ride!!!"
There's quite a contingent of Redskins fans that I know who are tired of Joe Gibbs' conservative playcalling.
I echo everyone's sentiments here, who implied that today was Jason Campbell's coming out party!!! As Cowboys' fans, I think it's safe to say that we dodged an arrow.
I'm just glad that we prevailed and ran our record to 9-1, 3-0 in the conference... despite our defense looking quite vulnerable and quite like last season around this same time of the year.
Just curious -- and with all seriousness -- but did Greg Ellis even play today?
yeah Greg did
better question is, did tank Johnson?
It's about time Gibbs took the training wheels off of Campbell. It's time to let him ride!!!"
There's quite a contingent of Redskins fans that I know who are tired of Joe Gibbs' conservative playcalling
Hmm, didn't we hear alot of the same last year when Bill was here.
i gave up
on the game shortly into the second half. it is just boring watching this kind of game. i'm sure for pats fans it isn't, and i wouldn't find a boys game boring no matter how much they blew someone out. but it is just no fun.
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