The NFL: Not as good as it used to be?
I hear it quite often from pretty much everywhere, from major sports outlets and even here.
Being only 24, the furthest back my NFL experience goes is watching the Cowboys, Niners, and Packers win Super Bowls in the mid-90s as a kid, as well as from NFL Films highlights of the previous Super Bowls.
So the game was better back then, eh? I hear some people say it's the Salary Cap, some say it's Free Agency, some say it's simply the end result of too many poorly coached and run organizations.
What do you guys think? Are the issues something that can be solved? Or will the lack of quality play simply be something we have to accept?
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The NFL is not worse today
it's just that back then, you had some teams that were simply awesome and some that were god awful. If free agency hadn't hit until say 2000, that cowboys team would have won at least four probably six superbowls. They were so loaded it was sick. On the same note, the pittsburgh and san fran teams of the 70s and 90s would not have been so successful. As much as it pains me to admit it, this makes what the pats have done over the last few years even more impressive. I mean, look at the Rams - they were setting the world on fire a few years ago and now they are toast.
you answered it right there....
The key word is: free agency... Back then, teams built dynasties from within, years of cultivating the best players, drafting 12 rounds, building great depth, teams were united and stood together for years on end. Now a days, a team like Cleveland can make some sound free agent ajustments on their offensive line, pick up a former 2,000 yard rusher, and draft top notch players and go from a door mat to playoff team just like that.
Back then , there were haves and have nots, If you drafted poorly, It would reflect on your team for a long period of time. There were no quick fix's, unless you made trades.The teams that drafted well would continue to be playoff teams year in and year out regardless. That's why the Cowboys record of 20 consecutive winning seasons will more than likely stand forever. Guys just don't have that loyalty anymore, it's all about the dollars.
by BoyzRback07 on Dec 14, 2007 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
The NFL is much worse today because
of several reasons. First of all, expansion teams (Browns, Panthers, Texans, Jags) all started to dilute the talent pool. Instead of 28 teams, we now have 32. Thats 200 players that would make the rest of the league stronger, not to mention coaches as well.
Free agency and salary cap is another. Teams are going to lose players every year so tha makes the front offices of teams more valuable in becoming capologists.
Finally, the goal of Paul Tagliabue was to create parity throughout the league so every franchise could be more competitive and have a shot at the title.
Its a watered down league and basically the Pats have been the most successful because they do the best job of working within the free agency and cap rules in drafting and signing FAs.
I disagree...
The talent pool is anything but watered down. If anything, it's deeper and broader than it's ever been. If you want proof, just look at the state of collage football over the last few years. Literally anyone can beat anyone on a given day, unlike 10 or 15 years ago, when it was nearly impossible to upend a top team.
That happens because practically every team now has a few difference-making athletes, and all it takes is one mistake to lose a game.
There's more than enough talent to go around, teams are simply having trouble developing it because there is such a rush to throw them into the fire immediately, rather than allow them to learn the game first.
by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 15, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree...
This is essentially that exact point I was trying to make.
by BoyzRback07 on Dec 15, 2007 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with Terry...I meant...
There are 572 players on team rosters now, that would not have made the league 20-30 years ago.You were hard pressed and had to be very talented to even make a team.
Back in the day, There were 28 teams as opposed to 32 now. I believe the rosters were limited to 47 players, as opposed to the current 53 man rosters now.
Then : 1,316 of the best players in the world.
Now : 1,696 roster players, 192 practice players.
Colleges players weren't able to jump ship and enter the draft early like they do now, So they were better coached, better prepared, more muture, etc..
by BoyzRback07 on Dec 15, 2007 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
If that was true...
The why did five collage teams have all the talent?
The answer... because there wasn't enough to go around. There is now.
by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 15, 2007 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
huh ?
5 college teams have all the talent ? I lost that one in translation..... AP top 20 , UPI top 20 ranking have been in effect for over a half century.
That's like saying Division III ball players are in the same league as Division I-A...as a favorite of mine Lee Corso says " Not so fast my friend"
by BoyzRback07 on Dec 15, 2007 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
I was tired and cranky when I wrote that...
Allow me to try and clarify.
I've had several discussions with friends and colleagues of mine over the current state of College Football, and why is seems like, for the most part, there are no longer any truly dominant teams. At least not as dominant as in the past.
The question comes down to this... is it mediocrity or parity?
The conclusion that I came to was that it was parity. You guys keep arguing that the league has been watered down by the fact that there are 200 more job openings than there were 10 years ago, and that's true. But consider just how many more young men are playing football now than were in the past. Guys who would have become boxers, or baseball players, or track stars, or whatever in the past are gravitating towards the sport in unbelievable numbers.
And then there are players like Frank Gore, who not long ago would have had his career ended by double knee surgeries. Bo Jackson likely would still be playing if he had been born a decade or so later, not to mention Joe Namaith. A "blown" knee or shoulder used to be a death sentence for a player, now it's just a question of whether or not they'll be ready for training camp. All of those things, to me, add up to the idea that there is more than enough talent to go around.
Now, if you want to say that there is a lack of depth at the quarterback position, then we can talk. But I still think that has more to do with teams being unwilling to allow their high draft picks to learn the game before throwing them in the fire, which leads me back to my original point... there should be a rookie wage scale.
by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 16, 2007 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Don’t believe them Nelson
People who tell you that football teams of today aren’t as good as in the past are just people holding on to the glory days of their youth and engaging in hero-worship. It has nothing to do with the reality of the game today. It’s like music, each generation tends to hold on to the music they grew up with and categorize most new stuff as inferior to what they listened to. It’s a crock.
The talent pool isn’t diluted because the pool of available athletes is so much larger. Because the NFL continues to grow as a sport and the monetary rewards are so much greater, there is an ever-growing pool of youth who aspire to join its ranks. They are trained much earlier, condition themselves on a constant basis and live football year around. In the NFL’s distant past, players actually had other jobs in the offseason, their only job nowadays is to be football players.
People who glorify the dynasties of the past leave out one big factor. There were teams that absolutely stunk, and they stunk for a long time. Think of the Saints or the Falcons or other franchises that could never get it going. These teams are conveniently forgotten in hero-worship. Because of parity and free-agency, teams can actually get better quicker and this keeps their city and management striving to get better. The pressure form the fan base doesn’t allow for them to be complacent in losing.
The players are simply better athletes today on the whole. They are bigger, faster and stronger and possess as much skill as the past players in a better package. They pay much more attention to film and live football year round and their conditioning is much better. Coaching staffs are much better, they are trained better and they have plenty of technology available to create better game plans and to scout the opposition. The medical staffs are light years ahead and keep players playing who in the past would have had to retire.
So don’t believe them Nelson. It’s old-fogey hero-worship. They forget all the bad things and the bad teams that littered the landscape while only a few select teams dominated the scene every year. Because of this, the media, which was much more limited then, only concentrated on teams that won and this tended to elevate players into god-like idols because they won every year and no one was paying attention to the players on the mediocre and bad teams.
Football players and teams are definitely better today than they were in the past.
In fifteen to twenty years from now, there'll be a whole new set of old-time fans who will be saying, football just isn't as good today. What they really mean is my youth is gone and I miss those teams from when I was growing up, it has nothing to do with he quality of the play.
mediocrity isn't better Grizz
and thats what the NFL has become.
Many, many very average teams and a few good ones and thats what makes this league much weaker than it was when the true dynasties ruled the NFL landscape.
The Pats are just a very good team within this mess of mediocrity. They would get crushed by the '90s Cowboys and you know they would.
But the point is
that there may have been a select few teams that were better than many teams today but the overall NFL is not worse. Parity makes for more exciting games and teams that were basement dwellers for years now have a chance to turn things around. Tampa Bay turned into a powerhouse a few years into free agency and they were a joke for twenty years prior.
The biggest thing that the NFL could do...
To improve the quality of the game would be to institute a rookie salary scale, like the NBA has.
Most young players are vastly overpaid when they enter the league, and get pressed into service before they're ready, not based on their ability, but rather the exorbitant contracts they've been given.
JaMarcus Russell is a perfect example. He's nowhere near ready to play in the NFL, but might see action this weekend, for no other reason than to justify the $38 million in guaranteed money he was given after holding out until the second week of the regular season (another thing that would disappear with a rookie wage scale).
Let those kids sit for a few years, and make sure that, when they do get paid, they've earned it. Then take the money you're saving on rookies and spend it on productive veterans.
kudo's , nice blog.
Back in the "glory days" as Grizz likes to express....He does not take that into account at all.
You sure didn't have the luxury then to select a #1 overall pick and not play him...Roster spots were way much more precious back then. You had teams that pretty much rode the same roster for years, sizzled vets that worked like fine oiled machines, on occasion hitting big on a talent in the draft, and having a vet retire or lose out on his roster spot.But maintaining continuity and success.
The NFL is just like college now, there is way too much change over with cap casualties, retiring vets, free agents changing like diapers, dreadful busts coming out of college unready to compete at this level.. Just when one of your precious high draft picks is hitting his stride, and playing at a high level, he's gone via free agency or you pay out the ying yang to retain him. Then you have to reload, retool, keep your own players happy, produce a good enough product to lure potential free agents your way, etc...
The reason the Patriots are where they are now, is because they made many quality free agent pick ups, and drafted well from their position in the draft. They masrket well to potential free agents. As you will see in the upcoming years for us as well...Dallas was, and will be again the main place top tier free agents will want to place. Where's Charles Haley when you need him.
by BoyzRback07 on Dec 15, 2007 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
That's how they "used" to do it with rookies.
by BoyzRback07 on Dec 15, 2007 3:12 PM CST up reply actions

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