MNF open thread
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 7:16 PM CST
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I've been lax about the MNF open threads recently and BTB resident curmudgeon Deke busted me out on it last week. So here's a MNF open thread for the Patriots/Ravens game. I'm rooting for the Ravens.
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Brady had time to order supper
on that play.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Go Ravens!
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 7:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watson drop
wow, right in the gut. Ravens hold them to 3 on the opening drive. That's a pretty good start.
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 7:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
The Pats didn't score a TD with 1st and goal. It's a miracle.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 7:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like the Led Zeppelin
my favorite band ever
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cool
They are my favorite band also.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Grizz, why are you rooting for the Ravens?
don't you think it will be sweeter if we're the first team to knock them off in the SB?
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Offense?
That was a nice stop, now can the Ravens do anything on O?
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
there is no way Boller can beat the Pats
I'm sorry but that can't possibly happen.
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 8:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
NIce play by Boller
it almost as if ESPN isn't giving any chance of the Ravens winning or keeping it close.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 8:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not surprising
but everyone said the same thing about Philly last week, with a 23.5 point spread.
I think the wind could really work against Brady.
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, especially if Baltimore
can run the ball all night and not turn it over, but Batimore needs sevens, not threes.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well they just got one 7
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Go Ravens
Beat them Pats.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I want the Cowboys to have that glory
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean
And as long as the Pats keep winning, I'll be glad for the Boys to have the chance to be the one to knock them off in the SB, but meanwhile it is just a gut reaction to go for the underdog. And I wouldn't mind the Boys sharing the best record in the league.
(Plus my sister and her family live in Baltimore and are Raven's fans, so there's that, too, but I also went to college in Boston and have good friends who are Pats fans, so that kind of cancels out.)
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
go ravens!
hopefully they don't lose 52-7....lol....
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boller is looking quite impressive
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Woo hoo!
10-3 Ravens. I like it.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 8:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think the Pats peaked too soon
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 8:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I missed the pre-game
Why is it Led Zep night on MNF? Is it because of their reunion concert?
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 8:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, they just released "Mothership"
so it is a promotional thing
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
here we go again
but maybe it's mind games. Maybe Belichick and co. want everyone to think they're in trouble. Maybe they're trying to psyhe everyone ou with Jedi Mind Tricks. And just when the opponent's team think they're on the verge of victory, the Patriots wake up and snatch the win right out of their fingers. I mean, that exact scenario has already happened to the Colts and Eagles.
Of course, maybe I'm just paranoid.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 8:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
opps
mean to say 'opposing team'.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 8:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
or is Tom Brady a whinny little ____
by coolaid on Dec 3, 2007 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brady and Manning are both little babies
and cry like one when things don't go their way.
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
practically handed them that one
wrapped up nice in a yellow hankie
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on Ravens
Don't fold on us now.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice tackle!
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is this the most punts
the Pats have had in one game? 3 so far?
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
blew a great opportunity
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kinda Off Topic
but Who hates Mike Furrey?
I hope he get "knock the ____ out"
by coolaid on Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damn that was a good looking drive
Oh Yeah, Oh Yeah, Oh Oh Oh!!!
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
grown man S#!t
i'm gonna dance like this fat guy dancing to Karn Evil 9 on this dr. pepper commercial if the pats lose....god i hate the constantly sloppy wet kisses the media gives them every week for running up the score...would love if the Ravens stole their lunch money....and i would love if mcgahee and ray lewis, two players from the U, dedicated the victory to sean taylor...but i get the feeling we're only making tom brady and cowboy killer (randy moss) mad....
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Terry Is Right
The Patriots look to have peaked early. Not to say I told you so or anything, but a few weeks ago I mentioned their performance was not sustainable.
Watching them squirm delights me no end.
by kindablue on Dec 3, 2007 9:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Ravens are hanging
let's get a stop here
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Crap. Here Come The Pats.
by kcbrett5 on Dec 3, 2007 9:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ravens better score here.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they are ripping apart
the Pats' defense with this power run game
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Go McGahee
Ravens still won't go away
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if willis mcgahee can do it...
MB3 can damn sure do it....
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll second that
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And if the Raven's O-line can dominate
like this, the Boys's surely can
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TD Ravens
24-17...nice.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Patriots by 19 to 20 Points
Depending on the betting house.
by kindablue on Dec 3, 2007 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ironically...
The Ravens are having their biggest game of the season the same day that McNair was put on injured reserve. Of course, there's still a quarter left to play, but that teams hasn't looked this good since 2006.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sonebody Wrinkled the Ruffles in Brady's Skirt!
by kindablue on Dec 3, 2007 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Defense needs to get a turnover.
3 and out won't be enough.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
a great return helps!
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right you are.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy cow
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ravens need to keep running it
Grind this thing out and get a TD. McGahee is playing great.
by grapejoos on Dec 3, 2007 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They need an MB3-like grind it drive
kill the clock and score
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baltimore is really playing a great game
all the way round
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought antwan barnes was a good prospect
coming out of the draft
by Burt D on Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To think, I almost gave up watching the Pats
after the Bills game because their games were so boring. But these last two weeks have been great games.
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 9:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oops
not good Boller
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 10:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thats the Boller we all know and love
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
since we're worlds better than Baltimore
this just proves we can definitely win the SB!!
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if that was T.O.
we'd see that drop every five mins on Sportscenter...
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 10:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did you see him push off
right as he made his break? He use his hand to push McCallister, no call.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i saw him taunting in the end zone as well..
no call
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice stop for a FG
by the Ravens D.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 10:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great job holding them to a fieldgoal
but Boller can't throw any more picks. Next one will lead to a TD. If he throws another pick, game over.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 10:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on Baltimore
now if Boller can NOT pull a Feeley on this drive, the Ravens might pull this out.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boller starting to look like himself
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
getting too predictable Baltimore
run,run,pass.
Patriots got good field position with that kick.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the Ravens scoring again tonight
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
uh oh.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 10:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
intensional grounding
that never got back to the line of scrimmage
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
outside the pocket
it doesn't have to? Plus there was a receiver in the area
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice stop
three more first downs for the win
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TD time
it needs to be, anyway....
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 10:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
now we'll see what Brady is made of
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
we all know what Brady is made of
He's proved it year after year, he's a proven winner.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can the Pats get a TD when they really need one?
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
one yard
Call me crazy, but I think the Ravens should have gone for that.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
true, but you cant take anything away
from what they've done tonight. Baltimore have played an almost perfect game, and thats what it takes to beat to Patriots.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
seems like Brady is the only dude that came
to play today....
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Steelers have to be licking their chops
after seeing this. If Baltimore holds on and Steelers win, Cowboys will have the best record!
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh now you're into a Pats loss ;-)
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no, but if it happens I want
to spin it the best way I can. ;)
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
big Stop here
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OH NO
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on Ravens...
get a stop.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh nooo
Time out ruins the win, Brady gets another chance.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 10:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They would have stopped them again
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, comes down to one play!
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm rooting for the Ravens
but they're still they
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
me too
i thought that was a given
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
this is an exciting game!
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What a nightmare...
For Baltimore. Stopped them twice on fourth down to win the game, but lost out to a TO and a penalty.
by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 3, 2007 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OMG
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
oh noooooooooooooooooo
another holding panalty on the defense
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
make 'em earn it man
quit giving it to 'em
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 10:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's no way
they can give the Pats this many changes and come out alive
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't have secure control of the ball
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear God!
Another fourth down stop nullified by penalty!
Touchdown Pats
by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 3, 2007 10:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ouch.
Penalties....
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the kickoff is going to be funny
they can put this kickoff in the stands
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm glad jaws...
at least talked about the POSSIBILITY that defensive hold was a bad call...
by Tuna Helper on Dec 3, 2007 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think most of these calls are ticky tack
The defensive backs have no chance, the rules are so schewed towards the offense, its just rediculous. The league wants high scoring, so its not going to change
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Got to be so frustrating for the players
to have that 4th down stop nullified by the TO, so they play their hearts out and the sidelines call loses the game for them
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
why didn't Boller throw that in the endzone?
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think he tried
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's supposed to have a gun, you'd think
he could throw it 65 yds.
by Terry on Dec 3, 2007 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're joking right?
as it is I think he crossed the line of scrimmage by a lot.
by ab03 on Dec 3, 2007 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
because this is the guy who prided himself for throwing it 50 yards from his knees. What a pathetic throw...
by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2007 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
with that wind he was throwing into
he was lucky to get it that far, it went 60 yards
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wind was going the other way
that's why the the MN guys were saying how the flags hurt the Ravens at the end because NE would have kicked into the wind there...
by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2007 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Overall, a great game
too bad for the Ravens, they played a great game, that boller int when they were deep in patriots zone, cost them three points, that atleast cost them over time
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man, the Ravens and their fans
must be sick. If that was the Cowboys my house would look like a tornado just went through it.
by Dave Halprin on Dec 3, 2007 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I cheered for the Ravens with passion reserved...
for the Cowboys...I feel all dirty now. Guess I better get some roses.
by ImpactNate on Dec 3, 2007 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
another game
another loss due to bad coaching. these guys write up great schemes but when it comes to game management, these old guys flat out blow.
screen pass on 3rd and 1, not blitzing at all on the last drive. players have a right to be angry. another sean taylor tribute ruined by the old guys
by ab03 on Dec 3, 2007 10:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think they blitzed on the last touchdown
just didn't get there
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Billick probably going
to get fired.
by coolaid on Dec 3, 2007 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This Ravens D played their hearts out
unbelievable intensity. I would have shoved that flag up that refs ass if i was that LB. Unfreakingbeliveable what that coaching staff did to that team tonight...
by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2007 10:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jaws, I think, was saying at the end
that if they were going to lose any game this would be it. Yeah, you can say that given the situation in the fourth quarter, but that is two weeks in a row that the Pats have barely pulled out a win against very so-so teams, teams without winning records. Huge underdogs almost took them down.
If you just saw the last two games, you would think they are a scrappy team that fights until the end and pulls out wins, but you wouldn't think they are a massively dominating team, "the best team ever" in the NFL.
They are definitely beatable. They could easily lose to the Steelers next week, or the Giants. And even if they manage to make it through the season without choking, they could definitely get taken out in the playoffs.
And another thing - look at trends. The Patriots are actually struggling to win against much inferior teams. They are trending down.
Meanwhile, the Cowboys are getting better and better every game.
If the Pats make it to the SB, the Cowboys will take them down.
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 11:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I dont buy into that so much
When a team like the Patriots are going on the run they're on, its hard to stay that focused week in and week out especially in a long season like football. Its the games in a streak like this around the two thirds mark of the season that are the toughest ones to win, its that lull part of the season just before you start to crank it up and make that playoff run. Next week the Patriots could very well come out and put fifty on the board. I dont think they peaked too early, I just think its that hump you have to fight through before you again refocus in on the big prize, as it comes closer into view.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow I'm not surprised
You don't buy into it... I'm intentionally looking at it from an optimistic point of view for the Cowboys, which I know is not your style ;-} But I'm just saying they are not unbeatable. And the air of them being the best team ever seems at least questionable now. They are a very, very good team, and what you're saying is true. But they were making some big mistakes both this week and last. And if we end up facing them in the SB, the way things are going at this point I feel pretty darn confident about our chances.
by scottmaui on Dec 3, 2007 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great teams though overcome their mistakes
When most of the league loses or wins games based on the two or three mistakes either one way or another, the patriots can over come mistakes every week if they are negative towards them, thats what a great team does, The cowboys did that in Buffalo, not blowing out teams that you should beat doesn't take away from their greatness IMO, teams go through lulls in a season, its a long season, we beat the Colts last year at the same time of the year, they went on to win the superbowl. I think the cowboys are a very very good and upcoming team, a team thats closing in on the patriots level but you cannot overlook our one glaring problem, and thats the secondary. The cowboys are good enough now on offense to overcome their inabilities on defense, thats not taking anything away or being negative about the team, its just a fact. I would be very careful about putting the Cowboys in the superbowl right now as so many do, Green bay, if healthy is going to be a big problem for Dallas because of what they can do on and what they have on offense, but I do like our chances. I dont think Green bay would be intimidated though if they have to play in dallas again. I dont like our matchup against the Patriots at this point because of our secondary issues, we aren't playing them at this point though, so things can change for both teams. I just dont sit and watch cowboy games, any games with pom poms. or starting going on about Romo being the greatest of all time in three years as was typed here today, thats just rediculous.
by Deke on Dec 3, 2007 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I take that back
Romo IS the greatest of all time. Montana, Unitas, and the rest have nothing on Romo.
And secondly I hate that cliche "Great teams overcome there mistakes". That phrase is used by people to justify injustice. Its like people saying bad things don't happen to good people. How many times can any team stop a conversion on a 4th down. At a certain point it is not statistically feasible to expect any team to stop a conversion after stopping a conversion a certain number of times. You guys have to be realistic. Even the "great" Patriots would not be able to stop a conversion on so many consecutive attempts, it is just not realistic.
by Burt D on Dec 4, 2007 12:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hate Rodney Harrison
in fact I hate that whole team... arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! This is soooooooo frustrating.
by Burt D on Dec 3, 2007 11:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've never been more pissed off
about a non-Cowboy game in a really really long time...
by Longhorn on Dec 3, 2007 11:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was right
Ravens definitely should have gone for it on that last 4th & 1.
by Nelson on Dec 3, 2007 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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