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Anybody have any thoughts on this Tarell Brown kid?

I have seen his name floating around.  Would it not be nice to see us get a CB in the 3rd round freeing us to go after a pass rusher and a WR in the first 2 rounds (assuming we can get a guy like Hamlin)?

Proposed Draft:
1st round:   Bowe WR - LSU
2nd round:   Woodley OLB - Michigan
3rd round:   Brown CB - Texas
4th round:   Alleman G - Akron

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Let's trade down with the Chargers
1st for 1st and 3rd then go:
  1. WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina
  2. CB Eric Wright, UNLV
  3. DT Paul Soliai, Utah
  4. OLB Dan Bazuin, Central Michigan or Brian Robison, Texas

by kk218 on Mar 21, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm?
I'm OK with Rice - but how do you figure that Soliai will be available 3rd?
Long Live Teague - the defender of the STAR

by ibleed blue on Mar 21, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scouting reports all have him as a 3rd round pick
Mainly because while he's got size he is a little raw so he won't be an immediate impact player and he's got some minor off-the-field issues.

by kk218 on Mar 21, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown has a pending prosecution
for carrying a gun with charges dropped for marijuana possession . He has also broken a bone in each of the past 2 seasons so durability is another issue. Probably will be available in the 2nd and maybe even the 3rd round. NFL Draft Scout lists him as the 10th best CB in the draft but he appears to be capable physically to play the position.

by lee3022 on Mar 21, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Lee
I would hate to make a character mistake.  But it could be a great value pick in the 3rd - assuming he has cleaned up his act.  
Long Live Teague - the defender of the STAR

by ibleed blue on Mar 21, 2007 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Top 4 Prospects
I'll break down the big 4. These our are first round  options.

I rank them as followed

  1. Leon Hall
  2. Darrelle Revis
  3. Aaron Ross
  4. Chris Houston
Leon Hall

He is number one on my CB list for a reason. First of all I'm not sure how many saw him at the combine...but he had the body of a NFL player...really crisp looking stature. Hall really has something the other 3 don't have. The ability to process information at the snap of his fingures. It's almost like he has Peyton Manning eyes...he is always in control on the field and always seems to know what is going on around him...great eyes. I don't by any means think he is slow...but I would be in the group that says he is more quick than fast. But his quickness is only increased when you factor in his ability to process information...it was almost like he knew what route the WR was running before they even snapped the ball. Halls intensity on the field really shows...he knows how to get his teammates involved and is a good leader on the field...something that isn't a known quality in many cb's it seems. One of my favorite things about hall is how he sits on the LOS. Hall was played a lot like newman. He wouldn't exactly line up against the best WR...he would line up on his side of the field. Almost always playing no further then 5 yards off the ball. This is great when evaluating a corner. Now that we are running Wades defense there will be a lot in common. Corners have to sit with the slower WR's and be able to redirect the less physical WR's...and Hall seems to do this to perfection...I never saw him open his hips early to try to use raw ability to cover a WR. Always poised and keeping his composure.

Hall is the most fluid corner in this draft...and has the best anticipation out of this class. You'll see some corners bog down when they open up their hips...Hall doesn't have this problem. Revis is a guy that seems to sometimes take false steps when breaking out of his backpedal...however Hall is crisp. Hall has a good vert...with long arms and soft hands. Really a top prospect imo. He is also a good punt fielder...he might not have the lateral quickness to be a to tier returner...but I would say he would be an upgrade over Crayton back deep. Another underrated part of his game is his run defense. Hall is very good at working the blocker downhill then shedding and taking the correct angle at the runner or shutting down a runners cutback lane. He has great zone recognition. Like I said...he can read a qb's eye's and disect a route as he pleases...this might be where he is at his best...although he wouldn't get to use his athletic ability as much as he should.

I don't think you can get a more NFL ready corner than Leon Hall...which is why he is #1 on my list.

OK, now i've hyped him up to be the next champ bailey...but he really isn't in that class. Like I said more quick than fast....he has the speed to stick with a wr...but wouldn't succeed over the course of a game with guys like Santana Moss or Steve Smith. I said I love how he played up close to the LOS...but he isn't exactly great at jamming the WR. He doesn't get a good punch..and although this is teachable...you would expect more out of him at this point...with as much experience as he has. Since he is great at playing the ball...and anticipating...it also turns to show his lack of straight up man to man skills. I don't buy into this being as big of a deal as some people...I mean I want my corner playing the ball/qb not the WR...but he doesn't have what it takes to match up one on one and say beat me...he relies on his anticipation to do the work for him on most occasions.

I think with Leon Hall you get what you see. A top of the line corner...that may have occasional troubles with elite WR's but will be able to hold the fort down on the other 95% of WRs. Hall is the perfect compliment to our boy Newman...and if he falls out of the top 10 a team will be getting a steal.

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Darrelle Revis

Revis is the oddball of the bunch for me. With Houston you have top intangibles...with Ross you have a great athlete...with Hall you have great instincts...Revis looks to be a mold of all of them into one.

Revis has played both CB positions...so versatility is not a problem with him. Understands zone coverages as well as man-to-man, trial, off coverage, and bump and run coverages. Great at redirecting the WR with over the top help..Has a great body stature. Really looks fully developed which is rare in a rookie. Good instincts allow him for good reaction time...I don't think he is as good with route recognition as Hall but he has above average NFL recognition. Rarely see a WR get separation from him which is nice to see since his knock is speed. Perhaps his best asset is in the running game. Revis can stick you. He gets good downhill movement with great shedding technique almost looks like a LB when engaged with a WR. Revis has the best hands of the bunch. He can knock a WR off their feet if they aren't ready, or he can sit back in off coverage and break on a quick out...like I said...great reaction time. Most people don't realize it...but Revis is actually a good punt returner...Ross really gets the knack for being the big returner...but Revis only averaged a yard less per return...and actually had more TD's in his career. Revis is above average for the position with the ball in his hand.

My biggest fear with Revis is that backpedal. It almost looks like a flexibilty issue in the back of his legs. He keeps a nice low backpedal but seems to waddle rather then drive his leg backwards. He has a effortless hip turn...but just one on one with a backpedal is dangerous...really needs a little technique help from what it looks like. Like I said earlier people knock his game speed...but he seems to be able to stick to WR's like glue so thats not a big concern for me. His 4.05 20 yard shuttle answers his speed questions. He also is knocked for not being a wrap up tackler...but he is far superior in the run game so I really don't think it affects his status too much.

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Aaron Ross

So many things to like about Ross. My personal favorite is his swagger He presents himself like a top corner...from the way he walks to the way he plays on the field...got to love that about the kid. As a returner he really showed it on the field. I really think he could give us a game breaker in the return game. He would be better then Newman in the aspect. Like Hall he also has a great sense of balance and smooth hips. I think he might have the best backpedal of all the cornerbacks...always has his butt to the ground...great drive out of it and effortless swivel to get out and run. However he is lacking more in the mental part of the game. I love Ross in the press...however he tends to lunge to get off his initial punch which is a huge nono. When caught out of position like this he is forced to turn and play the WR...rather then man up and play the ball. He does this more then the other 3 corners which gets me worrisome. I love hall because of his great instincts. Well this is something that Ross does not have. No whether its time in the film room or just mental lapses I don't know...however it is clear when he plays he doesn't have good route recognition which again leads to him trailing the WR rather then playing the ball. Big killer for penalties in the NFL. Ross probably has the best recovery ability of all the corners in this draft which is what makes up for his mental lapses....unlike Houston...Ross seems to love to shift it into high gear and make a play on the ball.

Ross doesn't have a NFL body at this point...he could stand to put on 5-10lbs and really strengthen up his core. He really needs to hit the film room...route and zone recognition are really lacking...which is why he was burned on double moves more than the other 3. His first year in the NFL could be rough. He doesn't seem to have the mindset or mental capabilities to understand some things...or maybe he just hasn't put forth the effort. When he is asked to just go out and play he might be the best of the bunch....but put him in a zone or give a QB time...flags and td's will be thrown. A bit of a risk...but if he had time to sit and digest information...and ease himself onto the field he has a chance to be the best of the bunch.

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Chris Houston

I'm surprised to see everyone so high on Houston. I agree from a upside prospective he might have a notch above the other three. But he really isn't close to the same as the other three in the mental part of the game. When watching Houston play I couldn't help but notice he was constantly locking on to WR's and running with them. This isn't a huge problem...but I would have liked to see him read and react more rather then just use his raw talent to cover. If he is gonna turn and run with WR's in the NFL you are gonna see plenty of illegal contact and pass interference called.

But this isn't his only knock...he always seemed to shy away from the RB when they swept to his side. He doesn't shed blocks...which isn't a huge knock...but running around them and putting his head down when diving at a backs feet is. When beat he seems to give up...we all know he has the speed to recover...but he just doesn't seem to be consistant in the aspect...I also will knock his backpedal. Houston has great straightline speed. So great that he will use it at every chance he gets. Which means he breaks out of his backpedal to early from time to time to turn and run with the wr...rather then sitting down and his backpedal waiting for a WR to break. Some of this might have to do with his lack of anticipation...its hard to tell. But from a NFL ready standpoint I think his is 2nd tier to the other top 3 guys.

by thule on Mar 26, 2007 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

solid work
great analysis, a lot of detail.  wow.
i ahven't seen the guys but thanks for the download

by 325424 on Mar 26, 2007 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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