2007 NFL draft open thread - Late rounds

Since Dallas has five picks in close proximity, let’s use this open thread for the rest of the draft. I’ll update this post with the newest picks.
#237 - The Cowboys final pick in the 2007 draft is: Alan Ball - CB - Illinois. No idea about that kid. Anybody?
I found this review on SI.com:
BIOGRAPHY: Four-year starter who posted career totals of 62/1/11 last season after 55/1/5 as a junior.
POSITIVES: Tall, thin cover corner who plays heads-up football. Effective facing the action, works well with safeties and quickly breaks on the ball. Reads the action, displays a good degree of suddenness to his game and fast up the field defending the run.
NEGATIVES: Not strong at the point, has tackles broken and loses out in battles. Struggles staying with receivers out from their breaks.
ANALYSIS: A developing corner who.s shown a lot of promise, Ball is a late-round selection who could be used as a nickel or dime back for a variety of defensive systems.

#212 - The Cowboys pick: Courtney Brown - CB - Cal Poly. That's a good pick.
Here’s NFLDraftCountdown on Brown:
Height: 6-13/8 | Weight: 200 | 40-Time: 4.34
Strengths:
Has very good size and bulk...Timed speed is excellent...An outstanding leaper...A playmaker with good hands and ball skills...Has top-notch intangibles...A fantastic athlete...Can also contribute on special teams...Has a lot of upside and potential.Weaknesses:
Did not play against elite competition...Still raw in terms of technique and is not yet a finished product...Didn't get many opportunities as a senior because teams threw away from him...Has some durability concerns...Is he a bit too overhyped?Notes:
Played wide receiver as a freshman...He missed virtually the entire 2004 season due to a knee injury suffered in the season opener...Classic workout warrior who went from off the radar to a draftable prospect after an amazing Pro Day in which he ran in the low 4.3's with a 41 1/2 inch vertical...Hails from the same Division I-AA program that produced recent 3rd round picks Jordan Beck and Chris Gocong the last two years...Most certainly a very intriguing late round developmental guy.

#195 - We traded up with Cleveland, we gave up our #200 and #234. The pick is: Deon Anderson - FB - Connecticut
Woo hoo, I finally get my FB! But I know nothing about him.
Here’s NFLDraftCountdown on Anderson:
Height: 5-103/4 | Weight: 243 | 40-Time: 4.73
Strengths:
Has adequate size and bulk with a cut physique...Extremely strong...Decent timed speed...A real hard worker...Powerful runner...Plays with a nasty demeanor...Has good hands out of the backfield...Smart and aware...Has special teams potential.Weaknesses:
Has some major off-the-field and character concerns...Only an average blocker at best and he needs to work on his technique...He doesn't deliver blows...Might be a 'tweener without a true NFL position...He is not overly elusive as a ball carrier.Notes:
He has run afoul of the law on a couple of occasions, including disorderly conduct, and those issues led to him missing the entire 2005 season...Versatile prospect who will likely fall further than he normally would...A sleeper who could surprise.

#178 - The Cowboys pick: Nick Folk - K - Arizona
Umm, I'm kind of stunned.
Strengths:
Has an extremely strong leg with range well beyond 50 yards...His kickoffs are outstanding and he can be a real weapon in the field position game...Has steady nerves and won't succumb to pressure...Is versatile and can also punt in a pinch.Weaknesses:
Simply misses too many kicks...Accuracy is shaky, even on the short ones...Has had some kicks blocked...Is not the type that you want as your punter for long stretches...Didn't get many opportunities in college and wasn't overly productive.Notes:
Kicked a 62-yard field goal in the Wildcats 2006 Spring Game...Participated in the Senior Bowl...Recipient of a number of academic honors...Has potential as a field goal kicker but his real value at the pro level will likely come as a kickoff specialist.

A few thoughts so far:
The Isaiah Stanback pick was a bit of a surprise to me, but I should’ve seen it coming. I knew Dallas had brought him in for a workout but I didn’t do enough research on the kid. He’s a fantastic athlete. He’s got a big body and he’s very fast, and has played WR and special teams before he was a QB. I’m not usually high on slash-type picks, but this kid looks like he could be a gem. If he can find a position, and that’s probably WR, he could develop into a player. Why? Because he’s got all the physical tools you need. Usually slashes are small or they are more runners than throwers, or are stunted by wanting to be a QB only, and grudgingly playing the other positions. If the kid is ready to take on a different role, with his physical gifts and his intelligence, he could be the kind of 2nd day gem you rave about later. But, and there’s always a but, he did have a serious foot injury that cut short his season, and it’s the dreaded Lisfranc injury. That has ruined some player’s careers. You have to trust that the Dallas medical staff checked him out and thought it wasn’t an issue.
Basically it’s a risky pick, but it could have a very nice payoff.
Picking Doug Free represented excellent value. He’s a 1st day talent that slipped into the 2nd day. Pair that up with James Marten and the Cowboys are fortifying themselves at tackle. Flozell Adams might be playing his final season in Dallas. And hopefully this will also allow us to keep Leonard Davis at guard. The Cowboys were smart to stock up here with some good talent if they’ve decided that they probably won’t be giving Adams a big contract after the year. And Colombo is only signed for two years, and he needs to repeat his good work from this year to really become established. Pat McQuistan might be in a fight for his roster spot. McQ is a fan favorite and the 7th round pick from last year was also a favorite of Bill Parcells. Now, he’s just another guy in the tackle mix.
Looking forward, I still want a CB. I guess Stanback is the WR prospect, so that may be off the list unless they find big value. They need someone to return punts, unless they are going to try and teach that to Stanback. We could certainly use a NT. I would like to see another LB that could get busy on special teams.
Open thread – so what’s your game plan for the rest of the draft?
Cowboys draft:
Round 1: #26 – Anthony Spencer – DE – Purdue
Round 3: #67 – James Marten – OT – Boston College
Round 4: #103 – Isaiah Stanback – QB/WR – Washington
Round 4: #122 – Doug Free – OT – Northern Illinois
Round 6: #178 - Nick Folk - K - Arizona
Round 6: #195 - Deon Anderson - FB - Connecticut
Round 7: #212 - Courtney Brown - CB - Cal Poly
Round 7: #237 - Alan Ball - CB - Illinois
Plus: A first round pick in 2008. Woo hoo!
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On Free, from over at Dallas News..
N. Illinois coach: Free better than Super Bowl starter
Cowboys fourth-round pick Doug Free is often compared to fellow former Northern Illinois tackle Ryan Diem, who starts at RT for the Colts.
Northern Illinois coach Joe Novak says Free has more potential than Diem. An excerpt of Novak's quote from Free's NFL.com scouting report:
"Doug Free's a lot better athlete than Ryan Diem. (Free) can run! You just don't see many offensive linemen that can run at that size like he can. What's impressive is he'll sit back in pass protection and then we'll throw the ball down the field and he'll run down field and block a safety. I mean, get downfield! You just don't see kids who can do that. He's special. Our kids call him 'Doug Freak' because he runs so well."
I'll bow to superior knowledge for now...
by Dale in Atlanta on
Apr 29, 2007 1:26 PM CDT
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this draft to me
is about getting Cleveland's #1 pick in 2008 which will be very, very high. Anything else that comes from this draft is gravy.
I say without any real needs, we go with BPA. We can get corners and NT next year.
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 1:29 PM CDT
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Kicker & a Project
I think the Cowboys should use one of their 6th round picks on Crosby, if he is still available.
Most of these low round picks are not going to make the team because of the depth of the cowboys.
Anyone you pick now, has to have tremendous upside.
Otherwise, they are merely camp bodies.
by raysheff on
Apr 29, 2007 1:32 PM CDT
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Take Brandon Siler
If he gets to #178
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 1:39 PM CDT
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They took a Kicker - But Who Is He?
Who is Folk?
I thought Crosby was supposed to be the best kicker in the draft.
by raysheff on
Apr 29, 2007 1:45 PM CDT
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That's a lot of Mel Kiper hype
Crosby's accuracy's been falling the last two years and he apparently couldn't get it to the end zone on kickoffs at the combine. Goose just said Crosby was the 3rd K on his board.
Whereas Kiper's board is based on his evaluation of the players, Goose uses what NFL scouts/player personnel guys tell him to generate his rankings. Goose's rankings are inherently better because they're based on what NFL teams are thinking (instead of what an ESPN "expert" thinks).
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 1:49 PM CDT
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Another head scratcher
Crosby has a stong leg, but his technique is horrible from what Gil Brandt said on Serius Radio today.
by Cowboys81 on
Apr 29, 2007 2:42 PM CDT
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Crosby
apparently he is not very accurate and his leg is not that powerful. Was horrible at the combine. Maybe a product of the Colorado air..
by Longhorn on
Apr 29, 2007 1:48 PM CDT
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Apparently a kicker who gets touchbacks
Novel idea
by Wes Cox on
Apr 29, 2007 1:48 PM CDT
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Goose likes Folk
Had him above Crosby, but its a kicker. I just can't get over it.
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 1:49 PM CDT
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NE drafted Grotowski (Sp???)
I'm down with it. Better to get someone who will compete for the job here than be a Practice Squad filler..
by Longhorn on
Apr 29, 2007 1:51 PM CDT
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Sorry
Grizz, horrible pick. The QB and PK today are head scratchers. Spencer was a good pick, but I'm not given this draft a thumbs up so far. They haven't addressed some of the needs everyone thought they were going to early. It should be interesting to see the what the so-called experts draft grades will be on the Cowboys.
by Cowboys81 on
Apr 29, 2007 2:46 PM CDT
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Don't say sorry to me
I hate the idea of picking a kicker, I'm with you on that.
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 2:52 PM CDT
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a Kicker... I am just going to assume
that Jerry and Ireland know what they are doing. As long as we get Courtney Brown I can live with this draft. And throw in Ilaoa and I will be very pleased with the draft.
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 1:50 PM CDT
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somebody wake me!!!
I think I'm having a nightmare
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 1:52 PM CDT
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face it Deke
Crosby is overrated and this proves it.
If he was as good as you think, he would have been drafted already.
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 1:55 PM CDT
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He's not over rated
I explained to you before, he wasn't used to the K balls at the combine, he worked with Matt Stover and at a workout with the Giants into a breeze, what booming them into the endzone.
So, do you believe Jerry when he said he wouldn't draft a kicker now.
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 2:03 PM CDT
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why didn't everybody else struggle?
Was Crosby the only one trying to kick with a new ball?
Why would he be drinking Jerry's koolaid if every other team has passed on Crosby for 190 picks now?
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 2:08 PM CDT
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The word from Crosby's own mouth
was that teams wanted to see more height on his kickoffs, and thats what he was working on, Stover helped him a great deal with technique and the NFL K-balls.
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 2:11 PM CDT
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then why is he still on the board at @190?
If he's fixed everything that concerned the teams why didn't he go in the 3rd round like Kiper, et al said he would?
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 2:12 PM CDT
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I dont think kickers are high on teams
for bringing in players to have a workout, teams are limited on the amount of players you can bring in for a look
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 2:18 PM CDT
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but you know that he worked with Matt Stover
and kicked in Giants stadium with the wind in his face. Don't you think the teams in the NFL scouting departments, who's job is to know these things, are aware of that? If he's really the best kicker in the draft, and worthy of a first day pick, those teams know that. He wasn't the unquestioned best kicker in the draft despite Mel Kiper telling you he was.
And with that, Green Bay just took Crosby @ #193.
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 2:24 PM CDT
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Alright "experts"..
somebody explain this to me; I'll can the "negativity" and the JJ bashing, and just ask:
Why?
I thought Crosby was supposed to be the best kicker; so IF they spend a high 6th on a Kicker, which they supposedly said they'd never do; why Folk instead of Crosby/someone else??
by Dale in Atlanta on
Apr 29, 2007 1:54 PM CDT
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because Crosby wasn't the best kicker?
He'd already been passed over once before.
Apparently Folk can also punt (averaged 40+ yards last year).
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 1:56 PM CDT
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Crosby Combine Workout
was really bad, no touchbacks and no accuracy.
maybe they think is a product of colorado thin air
by rfelixtj on
Apr 29, 2007 1:56 PM CDT
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Why is McQuistan a "fan favorite"?
The only thing I know about him is that he got his head shaved at training camp last year. What else has he done?
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 1:54 PM CDT
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Pat McQ's twin plays guard
maybe we are thinking of moving him to guard as well.
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 1:57 PM CDT
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Scouts Inc on Nick Folk
Strengths: Has a strong leg, can connect on long-range field goal attempts and gets good distance on kickoffs. Confident and shown the ability to come through in high-pressure situations. Has experience punting and is versatile.
Weaknesses: Though has improved in this area misses some field goal attempts inside 40 yards and accuracy is somewhat inconsistent. Kicks the ball too low at times and is vulnerable to getting blocked.
Overall: Folk arrived at Arizona in 2002 and was redshirted. In 2003, he played in 10 games, taking over as the fulltime place-kicker for the final four contests, made eight of eight extra point attempts, and missed all three field goal attempts. Folk won the starting job in 2004 for all 11 games, made 18 of 18 extra point attempts and eight of 13 field goal attempts (long; 53 yards). In 2005, he became an honorable mention All-Pac 10 performer after converting 31 of 33 extra point attempts and seven of 11 field goal attempts (long; 51 yards) in 11 contests. Folk made all 22 extra point attempts and 15 of 20 field goal attempts (long; 52 yards) in 2006 to earn first team All-Pac 10 accolades while playing in 12 games. For his career, Folk has also punted 96 times for 4,242 yards (44.2 average), with a long of 78 yards, and 36 punts downed inside the 20-yardline. Additionally, he kicked off 140 times with 83 touchbacks during the 2004, 2005, and 2006 seasons.
There is some concern about Folk's accuracy but he missed just one field goal attempt inside 40 yards his senior year. He has excellent range and he is versatile. Folk projects as a late-round pick or rookie free agent.
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 2:06 PM CDT
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Anyone that helps our kickoffs net yards
is a bonus.
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 2:08 PM CDT
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So...
He can kickoff, kick, and punt. If your going to carry an extra guy to kickoff, he seems like a really good choice.
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 2:11 PM CDT
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I'm glad we took a kicker
Gramattica cant get the Ball deep enough.
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 2:16 PM CDT
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We traded with
Cleveland again. That's got to be some kind of record.
by amr512 on
Apr 29, 2007 2:33 PM CDT
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Jones likes taking advantage of Savage
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 2:36 PM CDT
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yep
Certainly sounds like it
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 2:38 PM CDT
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I'm still in a daze
A kicker? Really?
Hopefully Jerry won't have his feelings hurt when Cowboys fans are hating on his draft. This has to rank near the bottom for inspirational picks. They may all end up in Canton together, but not one player looks like someone to be excited about. My favorite if Freaky Free.
by dunkman on
Apr 29, 2007 2:42 PM CDT
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Hey - we now
have three kickers and 2 punters to compete this year. Best of all if Folk is our kicker we have backup for punting. Now if McBriar can learn to kickoff we are rolling!
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:12 PM CDT
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Oh never mind
He just made up for by drafting a position the team probably doesn't need and a guy who had to sit out a year for doing Pacman Jones imitations.
Thanks for ruining my weekend.
by dunkman on
Apr 29, 2007 2:45 PM CDT
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cheer up Dunk, the OTs will pay out
btw, your comment in one of the other threads about day one (Jerry forgetting that the point is to get players) was hilarious but sadly apt. I made a similar joke last night to one of my friends, telling him that Jerry will work our two #1s next year for the whole 7th round...we might not get any players, but we'll get great value! Trading down for value is definitely his tragic flaw and makes monitoring the draft a big pain in the rear.
by jsdoty on
Apr 29, 2007 2:53 PM CDT
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Thanks, man
And I hope you're right about the OTs.
I really do think Jerry got himself completely tangled up when he started tradining. I was fine with the first, but he seemed to put himself out of position to get anyone besides Spencer (who has too many question marks for the one prize pick) for the rest of the draft. I felt a bit better after Free, but then the kicker and idiot FB.
by dunkman on
Apr 29, 2007 4:35 PM CDT
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Grizz question
Did we ever sign Jeb Huckeba?
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 2:58 PM CDT
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Not that I remember
We brought him in for a workout, but I don't remember signing him.
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 3:03 PM CDT
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He sounds familiar...
Didn't someone Heart Huckeba's??
by dunkman on
Apr 29, 2007 4:35 PM CDT
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LMAO! ROTFL! LOL!
by kcbrett5 on
Apr 29, 2007 6:21 PM CDT
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Deon Anderson
From NFL Draft Scout:
In 47 games at Connecticut, Anderson started 23 times. He carried 114 times for 420 yards (3.7 avg) and one touchdown. He had 48 receptions for 394 yards (8.2 avg) and three scores, adding 12 yards on one kickoff return. He also recorded 40 tackles (21 solos).
Positives: Has very good muscle mass throughout his frame. He has a thick chest, broad shoulders, good bubble, thick thighs and calves...Has natural hands to secure the ball outside his frame and good balance as a runner and blocker, keeping his pads low and feet churning to push the pile...Is a quick study with good intelligence and field vision, as he takes plays from the chalkboard to the field with no problem and shows good instincts to pick up the stunts and blitzes...Tough, physical blocker who will not hesitate to sacrifice his body to make a play...Determined special-teams gunner who shows urgency getting down the field to make the tackle...Takes on a different persona when he steps on the field and plays until the whistle...Shows adequate initial quickness out of his stance...Has a quick short-area burst and does a good job keeping his balance while clearing out the rush lane...Hits the hole at a low pad level and with good strength, using his leg drive to break tackles and his strong upper frame to power through trash...Has good vision picking the creases between the tackles, but needs to pick and slide with better urgency...Best served using his power to break tackles rather than attempt to elude...His power is evident in his ability to punish defenders and push the pile...Consistently keeps his feet moving and does a good job of keeping his pad level down...Shows good movement on contact and works hard to finish his runs...Natural hands catcher, but has been limited to screens and dump-offs...Does a good job of adjusting to the ball in flight, but lacks the leaping ability to compete for it at its high point...Punishing drive blocker whose overall strength and hand punch lets him sustain the rush lanes...Excellent wedge-buster who plays with good urgency...Plays on all the coverage and return units and has the wrap-up tackling technique to not only stop the returner, but also the upper-body strength to create turnovers...Times his hits properly and could eventually make a decent linebacker candidate because of his tackling form.
Negatives: Dropped close to 15 pounds of excess weight during the 2006 offseason, but needs to be more conscious of his eating habits, as the additional bulk has caused stamina and speed problems in the past...Has decent straight-line quickness, but appears too stiff in his hips to generate good change-of-direction agility...Tends to lose body control blocking in space though, as he will lunge and dive at defenders rather than take good angles...Has had several off-the-field issues that could have been the result of a medical condition that he was diagnosed as having back in March 2006 and needs to be monitored...Will get too narrow in his stride when blocking in space...Has good short-area speed, but lacks the second gear to clear past the second level...Tends to lose balance when having to run distances and is best served as a lead blocker or short-yardage runner...Has some burst through the holes, but is inconsistent building to top speed and struggles to open his hips in attempts to redirect and bounce outside...Stays low in his pads and has a strong base to sustain the holes, but will lose balance in space, as he gets too narrow in his base and fails to take good angles in pursuit...Is a liability carrying the ball on the perimeter, as he is a one-cut runner with minimal hip shake and tends to get too erect in his stance when having to run long distances...Fluid in his stride, but doesn't do a good job of selling defenders in his route break point...Needs to demonstrate better route concepts and stop rounding his cuts...Doesn't have good balance in his kick-slide and likes to try and chip rather than punish...Keeps his pads low to generate movement through the holes, but needs to be more explosive extending his arms to lock on and sustain in pass protection.
Compares To: JAMEEL COOK, Houston Texans (Illinois)...Anderson is a physical drive blocker, but limited in pass protection and has minimal value as a running back. He is a decent short-area receiver, but his special-teams play is reminiscent to the Saints' Fred McAfee, as he excels flying down field to break up the wedge. He could make a nice living on special teams, but on offense, his contributions will be limited to short-area blocking in the ground game.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:00 PM CDT
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sounds like a solid 6th round pick up
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 3:08 PM CDT
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These things are a little troubling
Take for instance:
"Has very good muscle mass throughout his frame. He has a thick chest, broad shoulders, good bubble, thick thighs and calves..."
I heard Jones talking this way on a radio show, like these guys are cattle or something. Plus "bubble"?? Is that scout talk for butts?
by dunkman on
Apr 29, 2007 4:42 PM CDT
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said his off-field stuff may have been related
to a "medical condition"? I wonder if he was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder? If he's got that under control, that makes me feel better about taking a guy with "character issues".
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 3:10 PM CDT
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If so, can U say "Dimitrius Underwood?"
by kcbrett5 on
Apr 29, 2007 6:23 PM CDT
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Underwood was plenty talented
but wouldn't stay on his meds. Assuming that's Anderson's issue, hopefully he isn't so proud that he thinks he can make it without them.
by jtts on
Apr 29, 2007 6:52 PM CDT
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Picking a CB
is not likely to happen now and I can only assume that Nate Jones, Jacques Reeves and Quincy Butler are better than any on the board today.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:06 PM CDT
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You are forgetting
Courtney Brown!
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 3:12 PM CDT
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What all this means
- Key to future is the two draft choices for next year
- Last year for Flozell
- JJ must have a lot of confidence in backup WR's as they did not address this here. Also have one of next years first round picks to address this.
- They are locked in on paying Newman next year market value or will use one of their next years draft picks next year.
- I think they are counting on either Hamlin to pan out or Watkins to come on as they did not address FS
- They could still use one of their draft choices of next year to potentially address RB (ie Michael Turner). With that said, if they have improved the OL enough, holes should be opening and they may not need to address it.
- With this type of draft, drafting for the most part on value and not need. JJ must think they are very close talent wise to get to the SB.
by mgsmith100 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:06 PM CDT
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I think its obvious
we have the talent to win a SB. We beat the Colts who won the SB, right??
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 3:16 PM CDT
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Just wondering?
Could this be a Brandon Siler (ILB) moment?
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:15 PM CDT
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you can't...
...have too many LBs with the 3-4.
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 3:16 PM CDT
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But what about
Ben Patrick?
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 3:18 PM CDT
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SI has Siler rated higher
Without Coach Parcells the 2 TE offense has dropped in priority and we drafted a fullback instead. I agree that a blocking TE would still be good but someone would have to be better than Curtis.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:23 PM CDT
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With no second round picks...
...this could be the most successful draft in ten year in terms of players with longevity.
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 3:15 PM CDT
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Oh god Jerry Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease
courtney brown
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 3:20 PM CDT
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok I officially love this draft
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 3:23 PM CDT
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Camp Body
I dont know anything on this guy, but he sounds like a camp body and would have a hard time making the team.
by Cowboys81 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:24 PM CDT
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he has 4.34 speed
Camp body me don't think so
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 3:25 PM CDT
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Maybe he can make the Practice squad
Burt, I'm not bashing the pick, but he wasn't invited to the NFL Combine for a reason and drafted in the 7th round.
I wouldn't expect much from late round picks. I don't think when people were talking about addressing CB it was in the 7th round. I hope I'm wrong, but the odds are he won't be here in Sept.
by Cowboys81 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:31 PM CDT
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We get hopeful every year
but they did not seem to reach this year and overall had a solid draft that with some projects developing might truly be good.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:21 PM CDT
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Courtney Brown
good size and speed, but not much of a player. STer for sure.
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 3:22 PM CDT
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From what I have read he has great ball skills
he used to be a WR. And in his Senior year qb's started throwing away from him cuz of his shutdown ability.
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Apr 29, 2007 3:24 PM CDT
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huh?
not much of a player? Not sure how u can say that. By the way, why aren't you pimping your boy Tyler Palko for us to pick...or matter of fact, anyone to pick...
by Longhorn on
Apr 29, 2007 3:25 PM CDT
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I am
BPA on their board.
Brown isn't better than Jones and Reeves and will have a hard time making the team.
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 3:26 PM CDT
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Jones and Reeves
They are midgets and do not have the measurables of Brown. Need to give him a chance.
by mgsmith100 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:28 PM CDT
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Yes but they have played
successfully here. Brown will have a chance to beat one of them out but he will have to show real progress to see much PT.
I like Courtney Brown.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:36 PM CDT
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Nate Jones is on the bubble
with this pick or Courtney Brown
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 3:37 PM CDT
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they will obviously
but he still will have a hard time making the team, but its obviously possible. I just wouldn't get too excited about it, thats all.
by Terry on
Apr 29, 2007 3:54 PM CDT
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He has punt return ability
He could make the team based just on that
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 3:56 PM CDT
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Brown seems to be a prospect.
Good upside that can contribute right away on ST, very good value for the 212th pick.
by LRogue on
Apr 29, 2007 3:27 PM CDT
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Now let's go
get big Walt. If we get him, Jerry Jones is officially a BEAST!
by amr512 on
Apr 29, 2007 3:24 PM CDT
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Who you got at the last pick.
Big Walt Thomas? Darius Walker? How about Joe Anoai, DT from my school, GT? Ok shameless plug.
Seriously, who you got?
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 4:00 PM CDT
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Big Bad Walt seems like an Ireland pick
And it seems like our coaching staff has a lot of faith in the abilities of Mount Stanley.
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 4:04 PM CDT
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Although I am also hoping
that Ilaoa is picked
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 4:08 PM CDT
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Trannon is an athlete & decent B-ball stud, too
by kcbrett5 on
Apr 29, 2007 6:27 PM CDT
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Why is Brandon SIler
dropped? He has a much better rating and could be a backup ILB for us as well as ST.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 4:05 PM CDT
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The Ticket said reports were
he has an inflated opinion of his abilites, can rub coaches the wrong way, arrogant player... so I guess it's all his attitude which must've been terrible in interviews with teams.
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 4:06 PM CDT
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Nothing better for attitude
adjustment than dropping to the end of the 7th round.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 4:09 PM CDT
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Burt-D's draft challenge update
By my very rough estimate right now SilverBlue and me are tied with a grand total of two. (next time I should double the amount one may pick)
And Terry was the only person who actually considered us picking Free. Props to Terry.
We'll see if this last pick will be the tie breaker between me and SilverBlue
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 4:02 PM CDT
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I got one!
Oh yeah.
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 4:03 PM CDT
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LB Brandon Siler is still out there
LB Nate harris too. How about Rhema McKnight, WR?
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 29, 2007 4:04 PM CDT
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thats who I'd go with
I'd like to get another LB
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 4:08 PM CDT
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Just posted that above
Siler looks like a player.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 4:06 PM CDT
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good player
but he thinks he's better than he really is. He's a guy tat could develop in a couple of years, practise squad player, good against the run, not great in pass defense
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 4:15 PM CDT
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Do we go offense or defense?
We could go with Siler, Walt, or even another reciever. Do we get the second coming of Colston? Let's hope so.
by amr512 on
Apr 29, 2007 4:21 PM CDT
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Eagles just took Ilaoa
Can I still root for him? I am really conflicted.
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 4:22 PM CDT
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Mike Walker?
He'd be a Perfect pick and a perfect finish to this draft..........Mount Stanley is better than any NT we could get now IMHO, plus i think We'll be able to sign one after June 1st....or possibly trade for a NT.......Shaun Rogers?.....OMG what a Rotation that D-line with Spencer, Ellis, and Ware outside Rushing the QB.......unstoppable pass rush, eccspecially with a coach that knows exactly what to do with it....ok, off topic lmao
by slash on
Apr 29, 2007 4:23 PM CDT
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Alan Ball
NFL | A. Ball works out at Pro Day
Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:43:56 -0700
Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports Illinois CB Alan Ball measured a height of 6-foot-1 1/2 and a weight of 183 pounds at his Pro Day. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.52 seconds and 4.53 seconds, the short shuttle in 4.18 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.75 seconds. He measured a 36-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-4 broad jump and completed 11 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press.
by Deke on
Apr 29, 2007 4:27 PM CDT
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Another
Camp body. Alan Ball and Courtney Brown will be on the unemployment line in August.
by Cowboys81 on
Apr 29, 2007 4:47 PM CDT
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You know
Jaques Reeves and Nate Jones were also seventh round picks and don't have anywhere close the measureables of Courtney Brown. And they would be more expensive to keep. I just don't think your assumption makes any sense.
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 4:56 PM CDT
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It is hard to get excited
about either. If the secondary scheme is going to change significantly then the new guys may be able to pick it up as well as the older two. But Jones and Reeves have actually played in the league and perhaps also know some tendencies for the receivers. The difference in salary when they are all under 1 mil is something to factor into the equation but I would think a small factor. I do hope these new guys play well and prove that 7th rounders can be as good as 1st rounders. With free agency looming for Jones and Reeves this is their year to prove themselves worthy of a new contract and having some young turks wanting to compete is all for the better.
by lee3022 on
Apr 29, 2007 5:09 PM CDT
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Courtney Brown
has the potential of a High Round Pick....ala Asante Samuel...So get Excited...the steal of the draft, right there
by slash on
Apr 29, 2007 7:15 PM CDT
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Nate Jones
They like Nate Jones that's why he is still here. Jaques Reeves is another story. Maybe one of them will push him out, but one or both of these players will be on the practice squad IF they make the team. A lot to ask for a player drafted in the 7th round, especially CB's to make the 53 man roster.
by Cowboys81 on
Apr 29, 2007 8:05 PM CDT
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Scouting Report
Biography:
Four-year starter who posted career totals of 62/1/11 last season after 55/1/5 as a junior.
Pos:
Tall, thin cover corner who plays heads-up football. Effective facing the action, works well with safeties and quickly breaks on the ball. Reads the action, displays a good degree of suddenness to his game and fast up the field defending the run. Gives effort in all aspects of the game.
Neg:
Not strong at the point, has tackles broken and loses out in battles. Struggles staying with receivers out from their breaks.
by mgsmith100 on
Apr 29, 2007 4:28 PM CDT
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The first Burt-D annual draft challenge is a
tie.
SilverBlue and me picked the same two players Anthony Spencer and Courtney Brown.
(I would still double check your lists to make sure I didn't make a mistake.)
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 4:38 PM CDT
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Draft Review
Matt Mosley's blog has some good Cowboys draft snippets.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...
Hit FIND and type in COWBOYS to cut to the chase.
by shlomo99 on
Apr 29, 2007 5:01 PM CDT
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Spencer, Free, Brown were good picks.
Plus a possible top 10 pick next year is great.
I hope we get some good UDFA's.
Stanback, I'd have to say that was our worst pick, big reach.
Deon Anderson sounds like a major character risk, don't know about his story.
Don't like drafting any kicker.
I'm disappointed we didn't get a NT or a top punt returner.
by APerfectStar on
Apr 29, 2007 5:33 PM CDT
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lol
right under your nose......i think Stanback has the potential to be a very Dangerous Returner...
and i think there's a reason Jerry drafted this kicker in the 6th.....i cant remember us ever drafting a kicker, much less in round 6........he was a kicker and a punter, so if he's purely a kicker now, he can focus and not be so tired everytime he kicks and that'll probably cure his very little accuracy problem and we got a franchise kicker
by slash on
Apr 29, 2007 6:24 PM CDT
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yeah, hasn't returned punts since HS
LOL, right under your nose!
by APerfectStar on
May 1, 2007 9:30 PM CDT
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Stanback runs in the 4.3 range and I am sure
our scouts ran him in WR drills and he must have done well. I think he could be an antwan randall el type only better considering his size.
by Burt D on
Apr 29, 2007 5:44 PM CDT
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I hope so
It looked like we could have moved back and still gotten him, but I guess the scouts know more than these draft guides.
by APerfectStar on
Apr 29, 2007 5:47 PM CDT
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Draft Grade
Give me Paul Soliai instead of Isaiah Stanback, and I would be tempted to give Jerry an "A" for his efforts!
by Long Ball on
Apr 29, 2007 5:56 PM CDT
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..............
Isaiah Stanback = Our "X Factor".....slot WR....Trick plays......Returner.......Back-up QB.....etc.? lol........if all goes well and he lives up to his playmaking potential
by slash on
Apr 29, 2007 7:00 PM CDT
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