Dallas Cowboys football; currently not a pretty sight
A tale of two seasons. I don't know what's happened, but ever since they won at Lambeau Field, the Dallas Cowboys haven't been the same football team.
The Cowboys are playing very mediocre football right now, and that might be a generous observation. This is not what was expected, by the fans or by the players. Don't kid yourself with the excuse that the expectations were too high. The expectations were that way because they deserved to be. Dallas was a powerhouse last year in the regular season and lost in the playoffs by four points to the eventual Super Bowl champions. They re-signed all their key personnel, added a few free agents and had what was considered a superb draft. Every element was in place for them to be among the elite of the NFL. Right now, they aren't among the elite. They are in the next level below that, with the arrow pointing down instead of up.
Yes, they're 4-2, but they're a weak 4-2. They aren't losing big to anybody, and in both games they've lost (Washington, Arizona) they've been in the game right up to the end. And both those teams appear to be playoff contenders. But it's the pure talent they have, the amount of weapons they possess on offense, which is keeping them in those game. They are playing poorly for good portions of games, and bringing themselves back when they are desperate. Even in the win over the Bengals that formula held true. Against good teams (Wash, Ariz), their desperation only served up heart-breaking losses. Against the Bengals, it served up an ugly win. In the last three games only sheer talent has kept the games close; while uninspired play, questionable coaching and a general malaise have brought them down to the level of merely average.
This game against Arizona was on the path to disaster right from the start.
The Cowboys special teams in the game were awful. From the opening play of the game, when they allowed a kickoff return for a TD, to the closing play of the game, when they allowed perhaps the easiest punt block in the history of the NFL, it was shameful. Why in the world would a coach change the blocking assignments in overtime on a punt from your own goal line? The insanity of that is beyond my comprehension. The Cowboys probably won't fire Bruce Read, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't. Then again, if they fired everybody who was responsible for the bad play in this game, then Nick Eatman and JJT would have to run things at the Ranch tomorrow.
Our vaunted offensive line, that big bad behemoth that was supposed to be a road-grader on the run, and a granite wall for the pass, has become a Swiss-cheese sampler plate. Flozell Adams was the doorman at the Ritz, waving in defenders with alacrity. If he was hurt, then our coaches are idiots for not taking him out of the game. Marc Colombo was only saved by the fact that Flozell was so bad, he actually looked semi-competent in comparison. By the way, that was not a compliment. Andre Gurode looked like he played half the game in a coma. Hudson Houck, we've praised you to high heaven, but this in on you, too.
The offensive line was bad, but this doesn't take away from Tony Romo's evening. If you couldn't see it before, you have to see it now, something's just not right with our QB. You can't put the ball on the turf with that kind of regularity. It's as if he's lost those spidey-senses he once had that told him when danger was near. Something is wrong with his game, and he needs to figure it out quick. And please, don't tell me to look at his stats, the long TD's to Crayton and Barber were hardly the work of Romo. The only real drive he put together was the one right after halftime. Look, I love Romo, I still believe in the kid, but he's off his game right now. Yes, the offensive line was absolutely part of the issue, but there were other plays where they had no part of the mistakes. This has been going on for the past three games.
I can't really complain about the defense in this game. While they only got one sack on Kurt Warner, they did apply much more pressure than they have in recent games. They knocked him around quite a bit. They also didn't allow the Cardinals to run the ball. On the downside, they gave up a third and 17 on a screen pass that was probably the biggest momentum-turning play in the game. And once Larry Fitzgerald got loose in the second half, he did some damage. Anthony Henry's play as a corner certainly looks to be on the decline. But overall, they only gave up 17 points to the Cardinals offense, and that should have been enough for the Cowboys to win the game. They even came up with a couple of turnovers. So while they weren't lockdown, they actually played pretty well against an offense that has been very good this season.
It's hard to pinpoint what has caused this decline in play from the Cowboys. But when a whole team looks to be in a funk over a couple of weeks, thoughts immediately turn to the coaching staff. Wade Phillips has to figure out a way to turn this around. The season is still long and Dallas has plenty of time to right the ship but they should start thinking about doing it quickly. The NFC East is a beast this year and dropping games along the way could be hazardous to their playoff health.
I'm not in a panic but I'm absolutely concerned. A team this talented should not be playing this way. I don't care about expectations; I care about what I'm seeing on the playing field. And right now, that's very average, and that's giving them every benefit of the doubt.

A list of injuries from the game.
QB Tony Romo (sprained right pinky finger)
RB Felix Jones (strained left hamstring)
P Mat McBriar (bruised right ankle)
LT Flozell Adams (stinger)
SS Keith Davis (cut left thumb)
OLB Anthony Spencer (strained left hamstring)
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In the end Grizz, this is the NFL
And 4-2 is 4-2 is 4-2.
I don’t care how they’ve played, they are still 4-2. Sure they have problems, problems that need fixed or that 4-2 could turn into 4-4 real quick.
But say they win their next 2 games, in very ugly fashion. Would we then be worried that they are 6-2?
A win is a win in the NFL. I don’t care how you get it. How ugly you look. We have lost to 2 playoff contenders. I’d be more worried if I were the Redskins, losing to “The Rams Dude” at home. Or Minnesota, who let perhaps one of the worst teams we’ve seen in a long time take them to the wire at home.
If this bad play continues and we are 5-4 or 4-5 when our bye comes, then it’s a different story. I suspect we’ll be 6-3 at worst.
How soon we forget the 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons, when 4-2 just isn’t good enough.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's your point?
You go 3-1 in the playoffs and you’re going home with nothing. Being 4-2 is not the point. The point is that this team is not playing like a Super Bowl caliber team when it should be with the talent it has accumulated.
by hiafex on Oct 13, 2008 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe my point is we shouldn't be talking Super Bowl in October
Our goals are:
1). Win the divison
2). Get homefield
3). Get a playoff win
4). Win the NFC
5). WIn the Super Bowl
We all need to get our heads out of our rears and realize this is the NFL. No team, no matter how talented, is automatically put into the playoffs.
Quit talking about the damn Super Bowl and worry about the Rams.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're just making excuses for the loss
We lost to a Cardinals team that doesn’t have their 1B WR. Our defense was unable to adjust to the Redskins 2 weeks and that lost us the game. We almost managed to lose to the Bengals last week. My point is that this coaching staff either needs to step up or step out.
by hiafex on Oct 13, 2008 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost doesn't count in the NFL
Quit making excuses for losing a team that is a divison leader.
When are you people going to start realizing this is the NFL. You don’t win every game. There’s a reason only 1 team has done it.
I’m not making excuses for a loss. I’m making excuses for not jumping off the cliff for a 4-2 team, which I find to be perplexing.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that you don't win every game
But atleast you could look decent in most of the games. They’ve looked mediocre in half of the games. That’s my point. You’re ignoring the fact that they’ve played like crap in the past 3 games.
I think it’s cause for concern when you say it means nothing. We each have a different mind-set on this so I guess it’s silly to be arguing about it cause we’re not going to change each other’s mind.
by hiafex on Oct 13, 2008 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at the last 2 Super Bowl champions
The Giants were about to replace Eli in like week 13. The Colts gave up like 800 yards rushing in 1 game (exaggeration, but it seems like it was that much) right before the playoffs.
It’s October. Sooooo many things will change before January.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mhuff is generally correct
In addition to all that. they do seem to have fixed problems as they came up – pass rush was much better this week even when Warner was able to complete fluke passes to Fitz. The running game is generally improved.
As I posted last night, my biggest concern is that a previous strength – the O-line – has been steadily getting worse. Everyone in the media this morning is blaming Romo for “poor ball secuirty” but I’d defy anyone here to hang onto the ball being hit the way he was. It was nuts. If they can’t protect him against Arizona, the Giants are going to kill the Cowboys.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said dunk
There is a reason Romo looks like he’s been in a funk, its called poor pass protection.
Never seen a qb ever look good without it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 hiafex
We made a knowbody #3 Wr look like Randy Moss in this game. We allowed another no name Wr a 100 yard game this year. I believe we have allowed a 100 yd. game to a Wr every game this year. I can only imagine if Boldin was playing.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said mhuff
In the NFL, there is no such thing as an ugly win. The cold hard fact is that there are only 1 team in the NFC that have a better record than the Cowboys.
All you have to do is look around the league to realize that there aren’t any teams dominating at all. The GMen are playing the best right now, but that will change as the season rolls on.
The bottom line is who will be playing the best 2 or 3 months from now, thats what matters, not who is playing the best right now. We were the best team in the NFC this time last season and we all know what good that did us.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are a weak 4-2 and could easily be 3-3 or 2-4
I think what he is saying. Romo MUST cut down on his mistakes if we plan on doing anything this year. I know Romo has always been mistake prone, probably always will, but he is making too many this year already.
The coaching down right sucks this year. I don’t like it on both sides of the ball. Blame Wade, Garrett, Stewart, Houck etc…They are all at fault to some point.
After the Rams we have 3 games against teams with winning records, two in the division (Redskins & Giants). If we don’t turn this ship in the right direction we could be a .500 team after those games and possibly miss the playoffs considering the division games we would have lost.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess what, a weak 4-2 is 4-2....not 3-3 or 2-4.
Period.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome Grizz
This sums up pretty much everything people have been complaining/talking about. And that’s the question. What’s wrong with the Cowboys? I have no idea, but they better fix it.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Oct 13, 2008 12:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Something that just occurred to me is that Arizona was without Boldin.
Can you imagine if he had been good to do?
by Parl on Oct 13, 2008 12:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a reason they were the #5 offense coming into this game
Which is why I don’t think our 4-2 is so bad. We’ve lost to 2 good teams. At least we didn’t lose to the Rams.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've only played 2 good teams.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've only played 2 good teams?
I’d say 4. The Eagles are still a damn good team when Westbrook is healthy (1/2 the Skins game, and the entire game for their other loss he was out).
The Pack are a good team. They were the toast of the town when we dominated them.
Then the Skins and the Cards.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's your definition of good?
The Eagles are 3-3, the Packers are 3-3, the Browns are 1-4, and the Bengals are 0-6. We haven’t beat any teams that currently have a winning record.
The Skins and Cardinals are both 4-2, and both beat us, giving them tiebreakers.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And let's see who the might, might Giants have beaten
Skins 4-2
Rams 1-4
Bungles 0-6
Seahawks 1-4
And people say we’ve played nobody. The ONLY good team they’ve even played were the Skins. And that was in week 1 when they were struggling with their new offense.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They haven't lost twice.
Or even once. And they are the defending champions. And they beat one of the teams that beat us.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does that mean the Rams can beat us?
Nice logic.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what you're talking about.
I didn’t say anything about the Rams. I didn’t say anything about the Giants. I said the Cowboys haven’t beaten anyone that currently has a winning record.
You brought up the Giants for comparison, and since they haven’t played us yet, I compared records and common opponents. In both cases, the Giants have the advantage. And the way that the Cowboys are playing right now, the Rams can absolutely beat us.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just using your logic.
“And they beat one of the teams that beat us.”
So I’m assuming that since we lost to the Redskins, and the Redskins beat the Rams…that the Rams will beat us.
And the way the Cowboys are playing right now, meaning losing to a 4-2 division leader…that means that a team as bad as the Rams can beat us? Not a chance. The Redskins beat themselves. That’s the only way the Rams will beat us, if we beat ourselves.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-2 in the last 3 games.
The Bengals game was closer than the score indicated.
You claim the Giants haven’t beaten anyone good either, and I pointed out that they beat someone who beat us, and has a winning record. That’s what you do when you compare 2 teams’ records. You look at head to head and then common opponents. If you want to compare with the Skins, it doesn’t make it to common opponents, since they beat us head to head.
Are you saying that the Rams can’t beat us? Well, since they beat the Redskins, and the Redskins beat us, I would say that they can definitely beat us if we don’t play better than we have been.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually if you read my post
I said the only good team they’ve played is the Skins.
And 1-2 in the last 3 is better than 0-3.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay.
I guess that’s one way to spin it, but it certainly isn’t good.
That’s the problem, though. The Skins have beaten teams with winning records, the Giants have beaten the only team they played that has a winning record. The Cowboys have lost to both of the teams they played with a winning record.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea and if the Pack and Eagles win next week
Then we’ll have beaten 2 teams with winning records.
./yawn
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's always if this
with the Cowboys this year. Well, if they get hot, or if they peak, or if some other team does this…
Why can’t they just control their own destiny and beat some good teams? It’s always blaming the media or the fans, or other players. Play hard, don’t make dumb mistakes, win games, and it all goes away.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And at 4-2, we're in control of our destiny
Some 1-4 teams can’t say the same.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly
Control your own destiny. Best way to do this? Be prepared for your next opponent.
by hiafex on Oct 13, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's what my concern is...
…it seems like the coaches aren’t preparing our team well the last three games.
“Be prepared for your next opponent.”
That statement is so on point.
And for those who think that coaching is overrated — and players win and lose ball games — i agree only to an extent.
But we absolutely cannot overlook poor decision making by the coaches and poor preparation and give them a free pass either.
It’s a team game, and last time i checked… coaching contributes to wins and losses as well.
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by silverblue5 on Oct 13, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem with labelling teams good or bad.
It works both ways. Who’s to say the Skins and Cardinals are truly good? If they had lost to the Cowboys, they would both be 3-3 now. I don’t agree that losses to certain teams are okay, because I honestly don’t believe that any team in the league has as much talent as we do. If they play their best and lose, I’m disappointed, but not nearly as upset as with the way they’ve lost so far.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably should've lost to the Eagles and Cinci
If not for the fumble exchange by Mcnabb we were losing that game. Cinci was a turnover away from losing also. We could easily be 3-3 right now.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way...we are a bad 4-2 right now like Griz said
We are alot closer to 2-4 than 6-0…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's irrelevant
because it’s true about every team. Hence Parcells dictum that you are what your record says you are. The Cowboys could be 5-1 if Hurd doesn’t let the onsides kick go right through his hands. The deal is, over tiime you average out to be about what you are. In this case, Dallas is a very talented team that still plays inconsistently – at times brilliant and at times pathetic.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now were more of the lines of "Pathetic"
Let’s not sugar coat how bad we are playing right now. We haven’t been right in 3 weeks.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not sugar coating
It’s the non-knee-jerk reaction to games. You think rushing for 200 yards last week was pathetic? It’s a mixed bag. I harp on the O-line and STs only because I think they are the most persistent. The rest they have obviously been working on and improving some aspects.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'We've only played 2 good teams'
I disagree with this comment, I think Philly for sure is a good team and GB may end up as one, but if the logic you use is true, then we’ve LOST TO BOTH OF THEM
Don’t SB contenders beat good teams?
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We beat Philly and the Packers
This is the NFL, not college football. The favorites don’t win every game. Just ask the Redskins.
4-2 is still good in my book. We beat the Rams next week, then if we can beat Tampa at home…we go into the Giants game at 6-2. We get it together and beat them, we’re 7-2 at the bye.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my point
people are saying that we’ve lost to the only good teams we’ve played, even tho the Redskins lost to the Rams and the Cardinals are the class of the worst division in football. I feel as bad as the rest of y’all about this lost, but the truth is we beat Philly in what was classified as the contest of the ‘Beast of the East’ at the time and the Packers who were thought (and still can be) a SB contender. We lost a couple of hard, close games. Lets not switch ships just yet…
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People just love to panic
If we would have lost to the Bungles last week, it would have been panic time. But we’ve lost to 2 good teams.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like to hear it
as much as people hate to hear it, playing a game at AZ is not a gimme this year, they have such an explosive offense and playing against the Skins never is easy. I’d rather make it to the playoffs at 11-5 (which will earn a playoff spot, despite what others say) playing teams tough till the end than winning a lot of games early and giving up late and finishing 13-3. You play to learn and get better, and it’s easier to get better early in the season than later…
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares if the Redskins lost?
They have the same record as us and get the tiebreaker due to their head to head win.
Lots of teams look good early in the season, and turn out to be not so good. 16 teams were undefeated after Week 1. The Eagles and Packers had a combined 3 wins when we played each of them. They’ve gone 3-6 since then.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and lots of teams look like s*&t early in the year
and end up being pretty good. I know, just like the rest of y’all, that we’re not playing our best football right now and I’m not happy about it, but I think it’s just waaaaaay to early to jump ship. We’ve got a good team and a long season to go, despite ST I think we’re right in the SB contention this year, and I honestly don’t see Read lasting the year.
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea and where did our 12-1 start get us last year?
They have the same record, and get the tiebreaker…TODAY
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT’S OCTOBER
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
October is on the way to January.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And guess what, we're 4-2
Well on our way to January.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-2 in the last 3.
Aren’t they supposed to get better as the season goes along, and not worse?
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone said that
When did it become criminal to criticize imperfections?
by hiafex on Oct 13, 2008 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the fact that we've played like crap
And we’re still 4-2 is a GREAT thing.
People are too caught up in the Super Bowl crap, when we haven’t even won a playoff game in 12 years.
It’s frustrating when people freak out over 1 loss, because we should obviously win every game.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 losses, actually.
Playing like crap is never a great thing, win or lose.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's where we disagree
A crap win is a win. The loss blows, but I’m just optimistic in feeling that with a turnover prone QB, a horrendus ST, and a defensive coordinator that couldn’t call a game against a Pop Warner team, we’re still 4-2.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they don't start playing better.
No one is jumping ship or jumping off a cliff. It’s always the ones that refuse to admit that the Cowboys need to improve that throw around those phrases and “the sky is falling.”
The rest of us are trying to figure out what is going wrong and how it can be improved, and hoping that the coaches and players are doing the same, only better.
I’m sorry, but if this team is playing as well as they can, that does not make me feel better.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MY point is
They are NOT playing as well as they can, and in SPITE OF THAT they’re 4-2.
This is a good thing. We will improve.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not true
I’ve always maintained the Cowboys need to improve, but they have 10 games to do so, it’s not the end of the world that they’re playing bad in October.
It would only be if they were playing like this in December again.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he probably wouldn't have played much better than Breaston
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, they beat us and beat us up.
For all of our talent, we’re getting out-muscled, out-hustled, and out-played. They looked like they were the ones with all of the pro-bowlers and first rounders.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How many Pro Bowlers do we have?
I don’t want to hear this 13 crap. That was the 2007 season. This is 2008, every season in the NFL is a new adventure.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the case,
then what would lead you to believe that this team is any good. I’m pretty sure that past performance is considered a reliable indicator of talent.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
If that’s the case, we should just hang it up. Because in our past performance we are 0-2 in the playoffs with these current players.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Except that we added impact players, and supposedly the ones we had improved. Well, so far, that doesn’t seem to be the case. That’s why so many people are worried and not buying the “we’re going to peak later” argument. These players haven’t done anything to earn that benefit of the doubt, based on past performance and performance so far this year. That’s why people are concerned that we’re still making dumb penalties and that Romo is still making dumb turnovers. What has changed from last year?
That’s why everyone is freaking out. They want to see improvement, not continue to hear excuses and keep your fingers crossed.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
get back to old Romo
It’s as if he’s lost those spidey-senses he once had that told him when danger was near.
I equate this to the coaches telling Romo to be more like Brady, but Romo played his best when he played ‘school-yard’ football.
And I said during the 1st quarter that we’d see TO’s discussion with Gurode a lot this week on BSPN, I’ve already seen it and it’s just hours after the game ended. Couple that with him not talking to the media after the game, get ready for another week of MSM bashing about how he is a disease to this team, even though he may be the only vocal leader we have (something they all say we lack and need).
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 12:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it funny how they say we lack that person on the team to get in a guy's face?
But when T.O. does it, he’s a cancer. The cancer is today’s journalism.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Romo or Witten should be that player in their opinion, even though our most controversial player in the 90’s (Irvin) was our vocal leader in that time. What’s the difference? Constant, online media. Anyone disagree?
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They gave him credit for it during halftime.
Terry Bradshaw and the guys were saying it like it was a good thing, that T.O. was telling Gurode to protect his QB and to jump on the ball. It’ll be interesting to see if they change their tune during the pre-game next week.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bout to hit they hay
but I’ve got to say (I’m a poet, and I didn’t even know it)
they (BSPN) showed it again. get ready Cowboy’s nation
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I equate this to the coaches telling Romo to be more like Brady, but Romo played his best when he played ‘school-yard’ football.
I think that Tony and/or the coaching staff have him so afraid of throwing an interception that he holds on to the ball and gives up fumbles instead, because he’s only looking for wide-open players. When I watch other teams, there’s frequently a big play in the game (maybe one that wins it) where the QB throws a ball to their top receiver that doesn’t have any right to be caught, but he catches it anyway. Maybe losing is clouding my memory, but I can’t think of too many times T.O. has been given the chance to earn a big play.
by jrduncans on Oct 13, 2008 5:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From The Big Lead
How awesome is it that Tony Romo is going to get credit for playing well today? You can’t dispute 300 yards and 3 touchdowns! And he only turned the ball over once! Sure, he fumbled the ball 4 times and two were given back to him. (MDS breaks down one of them.) And then there was the would-be interception in the second quarter that was dropped. Two of Romo’s touchdowns were on long catch-and-runs where the defense either couldn’t make a tackle or touch the receiver. What a joke.
by Parl on Oct 13, 2008 12:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's just as much spin as what he's trying to criticize
He didn’t just drop those balls. He was hit blind-side and had them stripped. You can’t secure the ball while preparing to throw. And the first one, Flo essentially stripped him.
The potential pick wasn’t dropped, it was stripped by Crayton.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its painfully obvious...
he’s thinking WAYYYYYYYYY too much…he’s second guessing himself on every play and it slows him down JUST enough to get into trouble.
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 13, 2008 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he wasn't.
He was blindsided on only one of his fumbles.
by jthig32 on Oct 13, 2008 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incorrect
He was stripped from behind only one. He was hit from behind on all of them. One the first he actually had the ball nicely secured but when he was spun around, Flo tried to help him speparate and pulled the ball out.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even beyond the fumbles
from his play to his demeanor, he just doesn’t seem romo-ish, you know?
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 13, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Cowboys
just as much as the rest of y’all, but I don’t understand why everyone thinks we should change and our entire roster/coaching staff when after 6 weeks we’re 4-2. We’re still easily in the mix for NFC E champions, and easily in the race for the wildcard, and isn’t it all about making it to, and advancing in, the playoffs? Honestly, I went to PFT and wasn’t surprised at all the ’Boy’s hatred, but I can’t understand it here. It’s still very early, and despite the horrible play by the O-Line this week, the only thing I think we really need to fix is the ST. That can be taken care of, the O-Line played their asses off (sorry Grizz) the first 5 weeks of the season and everyone is due an off day. If we can get our ST fixed up (I say fire Read) and can continue to improve, then we’re in a great spot for the end of the season. Maybe I’m a homer, but I don’t think now’s the time to be scurred.
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Quit being positive strobman
4-2 isn’t good enough. We want the Super Bowl now, in October.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I guess I’m trying too hard to be an optimist, I’ll try and focus on our every shortcoming from now on. 4-2? More like 1-5
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That seems to be the common theme
I guess what Baked said is true.
Those that get very upset over a loss are the chicken littles, and those that try to be optimistic are homers.
The beauty of free speech I guess.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be optimistic when they play better.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok I'll be optimsitic when they win again
Even if it’s an ugly win. Because this is the NFL, and like Tank said, the other guys get paid too.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's hating?
How is wanting someone to do better hating them? The problem is they have had 3 off weeks in a row. It’s ironic that you say you don’t understand why people want to shake up the coaching staff, when you’re suggestion is to fire a coach. Why are you hating?
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I hating?
Before the season I’d call away at AZ an off week, but the way that Warner has taken that team by the balls and lead them I can’t call them that anymore. Saying that we need a new ST coach isn’t hating (IMO, and you are free to disagree), but the truth is our ST hasn’t played to expectations since even before the season started. Our coverage has been atrocious, and tonight our blocking was as bad as can be at the end of the game. What coach changes blocking schemes in OT. I was an OL in my day, and I realize how important continuity is to blocking, so making last second changes is absolutely reckless (once again, IMO). That’s the only problem I see with our team. Our O-Line is due a day off, our ST isn’t due a season off….
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was joking.
You said you were surprised by the hatred for the Cowboys on this site, and I was just saying that no one here hates them, we love them. We want them to improve and have suggestions just like yours. In fact, many people’s suggestion is exactly what yours is. Just because people are critical doesn’t mean they are giving up or switching allegiances, we all just want the team to play well. Personally, I think the OL has had a few bad games this year, but know the coach is good. He needs to fix whatever the problem is. The D and ST, I don’t feel that way. Read needs to go and Wade needs to take control of the defense until Stewart has more experience.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Read has to go
Our ST hasn’t deserved the Star on their helmet, but our D hasn’t been that bad. They haven’t been great, no doubt, but they’ve won a game (PHI) and did their best to win today. I was happy to see more pressure and man coverage this game, but it seemed as if they were playing not to lost it rather than to win it during the 2nd half. Maybe this game will be the catalyst to improve the pressure throughout the rest of the season, there’s no doubt we have the personnel to put pressure on the QB and the corners/safety’s to cover within the first 7 yards, it’s just a matter of taking the chances, something we’ve been afraid to do for some reason. Maybe getting T-New and the True R-Williams back will be a differential for the rest of the year. Cross your fingers
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant GB
as the wins by the Def (not to include CLE)
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite the fact
I said I would try and not be optimistic, weren’t the rest of y’all happy of the way Romo acted during his press conference? He surely acted like he has the whole season in focus.
by strobman on Oct 13, 2008 1:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Press conference wins don't make me happy.
Romo and Wade have great personalities, but I still want them to do better at their jobs.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice write up grizz
captures my sentiment quite well, not jumping off the ledge but definitely cause for concern.
by scottmaui on Oct 13, 2008 2:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It starts with Romo
Last year Romo was able to avoid the rush better and make more plays. This year he can’t do anything and a lineman touches him with their pinky and he fumbles. He has been missing throws all year, and every time he drops back to throw I pray there’s no turnover, which is a huge step back from last season. I’m with Grizz, I haven’t lost hope but am very concerned Romo isn’t digressing instead of improving. This isn’t all on Romo by any means, there’s blame to go all around the team.
People will bash T.O. in the media for his poor attitude, but I think the rest of the team needs to take an example from him and start playing the game with some passion and intensity like he does. I wish we can say we played mediocre, because if we did there is no way we lose today. The scary part this is an on-going trend. Bottom line these last two weeks we’ve had two nail biters with teams that can’t carry our jocks! Something needs to change and fast, cause the more games we play like this the losses will pile up and the deficit
by NDCowboy8 on Oct 13, 2008 4:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo got blind-sided, not pinky-stroked
I don’t think any of the fumbles were on Romo today, unlike the end zone thing he did against the Eagles. But everyone wants to connect tunrelated dots to keep the narrative going.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are out of your mind
Did you watch the game? ONE fumble was from a blind side. All of the others he clearly saw the pressure and made the wrong decisions. His fumble in OT was atrocious.
by jthig32 on Oct 13, 2008 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ease up thig. I doidn't attack you personally and I expect the same courtesy
I disagree with you. The first was a hit from behind for example, and the ball was secured with bnoth hands.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only exception was the tuck rule one
when he moved away from pressure and found another rusher coming free. And that one wasn’t a fumble after the review.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're absolutely correct dunk
it’s obvious that most of these fans never got hit by a 300 lbs DL before.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but the fans arn't supposed to be elite NFL QBs
I love Romo just as much as any Cowboy fan but he is a fumbling machine. NFL QB’s get hit by NFL linemen on a weekly basis and don’t fumble nearly the amount that Romo does.
by NDCowboy8 on Oct 13, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to catch up with the giants will grow larger and larger.
by NDCowboy8 on Oct 13, 2008 4:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I get the feeling this won't be the last time we visit the desert this year.
We’re going to get another shot at the Cards in the playoffs, hopefully with a new special teams coach.
by houseofprime on Oct 13, 2008 6:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen
The coaching is suspect, the QB is problematic, the ST need to be put on life support.
We’re hurting across the board. Where we go from here depends on how we respond.
by Philosopher on Oct 13, 2008 6:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's an issue
Everybody defending the team says, “Hey, the team’s playing like doodie and we’re still 4-2.” And you imagine that we can only get better, peak in time for the playoffs, so these losses in October are excusable.
Well, I’m here to tell you that as bad as we’re playing now, we can still play worse. It’s not like up is the only way to go. And just like you say that this is the NFL, we’re capable of losing to worse teams. Yesterday, we lost to the Cardinals. What happens if we continue on our merry way and next week we lose to the Rams? I’m sure they’re not going to lie down and let us walk all over them.
The issues of October need to be resolved NOW, instead of waiting around to see if the team can pick it up and peak in December. No guarantee of that. In fact, based on previous years, the chances are better that we’ll mail in that month than raise our game.
The team is missing a sense of urgency, and so are quite a few of the fans.
31 teams may dream of the Superbowl but only one team, the Dallas Cowboys, expect it.
by accidental innuendo on Oct 13, 2008 7:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And by that reasoning
The team could also rally together and start playing better.
What is your point?
Fire the coaches, replace the players, when your record is 4-2 and there is only one team in the NFC with a better record?
It is what it is. I don’t see the need to put down fans who don’t share your obviously pessimistic view. Some of us actually try to enjoy the season.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How come nobody on our team says stuff like this?
“All week, every time we stepped in the meeting room our coach was telling us they’re big, they’re big, they’re going to hold you, they’re going to try to maul you,” Dockett said. "I was just so ready to just say, ‘Forget this. Let’s go play. I’m tired of you keep telling me they’re going to be big. I see it on film. I see Leonard Davis at 6-foot-7 and 379 pounds. I mean, I see the offense. Stop talking about it.’
“And I got down, man, I was just like, you know what, I don’t care how big you are, you in for a rumble today. We did just that.”
-Darnell Dockett, Cardinals DT
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcwest/0-4-123/Victory-puts-Cardinals-in-prime-position.html
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 13, 2008 7:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great recap
All I have to add, are the immortal words of the great James Hetfield, “sad but true”.
by jrqberry on Oct 13, 2008 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My only quibble is
you can’t say that Romo hardly had anything to do with his passing statistics, but he’s completely responsible for being hit and losing the ball. Flo played a lot of catch and release and Crayton and Barber didn’t throw the ball to themselves.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 8:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sense of Urgency
I remember that 1996 season when the team was stacked and couldn’t get it done inside the red zone even after Irvin came back from the suspension. The team was coming off a super bowl and a ton of off-field attention.
To me, we’ve got the same thing going on right now—high expectations and a coach with no fire (then Switzer, now Phillips). If you read Pearlman’s new book Boys Will Be Boys, he points out that a lack of discipline certainly contributed to the mid-90s decline.
by SB2008 on Oct 13, 2008 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone oputside says it's soft coaching
it might be, but I can’t pretend to know how this locker room works differently from others.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am usually a defender of Wade
but there is no discipline with this team. That is entirely on the head coach. I’m not saying we need a disciplinarian like Parcells, but we need something in between.
by quincyyyyy on Oct 13, 2008 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was hesitant to even post in this thread
Because all of this bickering reminds me of late nights at home when I was a 6 year old ;) But I am seeing too many of you that are at polar opposites. Some are taking the line that essentially says “Cowboys suck, hope we get a good draft pick for next season.” That of course is a bit of an exaggeration, but you get my point. The other’s are saying “We’re 4-2, what’s the problem?”
I think that my reaction is somewhere in the middle, similar to Dunkman’s and a few others on here. I’m upset with the loss, but not devestated. The Cardinals are a good team this year, unlike year’s past. We are 4-2, which is a good record. However, I also can’t overlook the deficiencies of the play so far. Grizz said it great that while yes, we are 4-2, we are 4-2 with the arrow pointing down.
I still think Romo is an amazing QB and still wouldn’t trade him for another QB, but he hasn’t looked right lately. I think that a lot of this falls on the poor play of the o-line over the past 3-4 weeks, but Romo has some things that he needs to work on by himself. I think the next few weeks before the bye will tell us what kind of season we have to look forward to.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
by DC_fan on Oct 13, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would say
that you have captured it perfectly.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our team is a joke
Arguably the most talented team in the league, but clearly not the best team in the league – Meet the Dallas Cowboys. The most disturbing thing for me is watching the team play defense, they look like a lost unit more times than not. I know they’re banged up in the secondary, but geez, is anyone trying to make a play back there?
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True dat
And that’s the difference between this defense the Cowboys defenses of past super bowls — playmakers.
Our HC and DC have got to find ways to put the playmakers on D in position to make plays and put pressure on the opposing offenses.
When you look at the Defenses of the Steelers, Eagles, Ravens, Titans, Giants — you know that you’re gonna have to make multiple adjustments from a protection standpoint.
Do you honestly think that our opponents think that way about our defense? Other than D-Ware and Ellis, what other proven defender strikes fear into the hear of opposing offenses. It’d be different if we had a reputation from a scheming system standpoint, but we don’t.
Instead, it’s that da_n vanilla, straight-up, zone crap. And even when we do blitz, our blitzers are rarely fast enough to consistently get to the opposing QB.
I agree with others who rail on Phillips and Stewart.
What freakin’ happened to that San Diego defense — that vaunted Phillips 34 — mentality and scheme they were supposed to bring over here to Big D? It’s been 23 games — including last year’s playoff loss — and I’ve still yet to see it.
Yes, I’m glad — and we’re very fortunate — to be 4-2, but that doesn’t mean we overlook that this team is seriously underachieving. If the coaches don’t put the players on both D and O and ST in positions to maximize the talent, all we’ll end up is “Paper Champions.”
"I'll give anybody a loan here if you bet against the Cowboys." - Jerry Jones, with sarcasm dripping from his voice.
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by silverblue5 on Oct 13, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny
I thought this was the defense’s best game. They had a few let-downs, but for the first time they actually hit the QB. Of the three units, I thought they played the best.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only gave up 17 points against the 5th rated offense
That’s a good game. The defense was the silver lining in this dark cloud.
How Bout Them Cowboys!
by sprprsnmn on Oct 13, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mirage
Good defense teams don’t give up first downs on 3rd and 17; Dallas just scored and that was a perfect opportunity to get the ball back and break Arizona’s back. But, nooooooooooo, Dallas gives up a first down on a play which ultimately pumps life into the Cardinals.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again you're forgetting
they have a pretty good offense, sometimes that happens against good offensive teams.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgetting????
it was 3rd and 17, not third and 7….lol
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No dopubt they made some critical mistakes
that, allowing the Fitz jumpball, etc. But they were still the best unit, ST was the worst and the offense was in between.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henry
What on earth was Anthony Henry thinking about on the TD he gave up? he really looked clueless out there.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henry can't play in space
His skill set is bump and run coverage, he can’t play off receivers and expect to play well.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I don’t think there’s anyway you can criticize the defense in this game, they played very well. The Cards have a very explosive offense and the D held them to 17 points which is very good. Any time we hold our opponent to 17 points or less, that should be good enough to win. The defense did their job.
This loss goes on the ST and OL without question.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
With Boldin available, i would agree, but without him, no chance.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaston is a solid WR
and apparently hard to tackle.
Anyway, it’s all relative. It would be hard to argue that ST was better than the D.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Breaston played pretty darn good in his place, I doubt that Boldin could have produced much better.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaston
He’s decent, but he’s no Boldin. My main gripe is that we have no identity on Defense. Are we a pressure D, bend but don’t break, Man, or zone? Guys just look like they’re running around with no plan. towards the end of the game, it looked as though they started turning up the heat (which I like), but you have this clown Henry playing off when he should’ve been in press giving up an easy TD
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaston is a knowbody and we made him look 100 times better than he is
They were talking about this last night. We make every #3 Wr look all world. We would’ve been torched if Boldin was playing…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaston isn't a nobody, he's been playing well all season
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm no...
He only had one other 100 yd game and no TD’s until yesterday. He is a average #3 Wr and we made him look better than he really is. Take off the rose colored glasses Terry. Are team sucks right now and heading in the toilet if we don’t correct some things. We could be out of contention in 4 weeks if we don’t turn things around.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaston is going to be a good WR
You just can’t see that. Everyone raved about him all week, since they knew he’d be playing for Boldin.
The 2 games prior to us he had 16 catches for 199 yards.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
"I don’t think there’s anyway you can criticize the defense in this game, they played very well. The Cards have a very explosive offense and the D held them to 17 points which is very good. Any time we hold our opponent to 17 points or less, that should be good enough to win. The defense did their job.
This loss goes on the ST and OL without question."
Sounds like some garbage Wade Phillips would say
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
call it what you want, but it's true
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree,Dunk
I thought our defense played it’s best game since the GB game.
AZ has a very good offense, and especially at home. Limiting them to 17 points should have been seen as a victory, even if they did assist my shooting themselves in the proverbial foot several times.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wade is garbage
This team has the Rams, Bucs and Giants in the next 3 weeks and right now, winning one of the three would be generous thinking.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 13, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You took the words out of my mouth
Based on how we’re playing I would have to agree. I think we beat the Rams – but the next three aren’t guaranteed.
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We looked like some hot garbage
I will love the star until the day I die – but I am hopping off the “Tampa” bandwagon until we can put together 4 quarters of solid play in all three phases. Special Teams KILLED us in this game. We spot them 7 to start, we blow a friggin’ chip shot that would have had us kicking for the win at the end of the game instead of the tie – and then we get a punt blocked.
Don’t get me started on 9’s continued turnovers. If he’s not throwing the pickles, he’s putting the ball on the turf. We can’t have this from our 60 some-odd million dollar QB. 3 TD’s a game doesn’t mean spit if you’re constantly turning the ball over.
Defensively we weren’t god-awful, but when we needed to clamp down we vanished. How does Adam Jones get beaten twice by Fitz on pretty much the same fade route?
To the Cardinal’s credit, Kurt Warner impressed the heck out of me. He stood in there like a warrior and made throw after throw. And Fitz is a beast. He stole the pick from Henry on what was probably the play that solidified the game for them.
This team doesn’t get it. No one fears us – and based on how we’re playing – why should they? We’re paper contenders right now. 13 Pro Bowlers don’t mean a damn thing if were getting 12 penalties a game, or turning it over every time someone gets too close to Romo or looking like ass on special teams.
And our D can’t get off the field! 3rd and 17 and Hightower gets 18?! Are you kidding me?! We should be 6-0 right now and making travel plans for Tampa. Inferior squads are beating us – which means we’re beating ourselves – and we’re making all of those jack asses at ESPN look like geniuses. I want to run Keyshawn over with a bus – and Chris “I never won ish” Carter needs to shut his mouth. But right now they look like Nostra-friggin-damus.
I’m pissed, if you hadn’t guessed it. We have to fix this and quickly. We have the Rams, Tampa, NY and then DC – three on the road. We could be looking at 5-5 if we don’t fix this. And 5-5 ain’t making anybodies playoffs. Not in the NFC East.
I guarantee you that if we lose 3 of our next 4, Wade won’t be around for SF on the 23rd.
Fix this crap.
Go Cowboys!
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with quite a bit of this
but your take on Romo is unbalanced. He’s turned the ball over (obviously) but he’s also led the drives that have won 4 games, so it means more than spit. Clearly he’ll be even better when he cuts down on turnovers, but he’s not why there are two Ls on the record now.
Your best point is the 4 quarters. They can do it all but not all the time. Yesterday they start rolling and Witten drops a perfect pass. Babreber fumbles. Yeah, funny no one remembers those because it’s all romo’s fault. But he didn’t f*** up the punt block or wave the cape at non-stop pass rush from the peft side. The whoile team is inconsistent.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo
I don’t like his body language at all, he looks like he’s about to give up.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does seem dispirited
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you had that OL in front of you
you’d have the same look as well, as would any qb.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points on Romo
You’re right – it’s not all 9’s fault. He’s won 4 games and we all know it’s feast or famine with him. And i certainly sing his praises when he’s feasting. But he’s put the ball on the turn a lot lately. The tuck rule saved his ass, the ball bouncing to him in OT saved him too. Granted, we won’t hear about Witten’s drop, Barber’s fumble or any of the other players miscues. That said, if we make the playoffs (can’t believe I just wrote "if"), then I don’t want to see 9 and 82 in Cabo with Mrs. 9. I defended it last year and I won’t this year. We have to be better.
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
I guess my irritation point has been that it all falls on Romo and frankly, that doesn’t make football sense. How many fumbles yesterday gave Arizona the ball? It’s all coulda, woulda shoulda. What matters is what impacted. What impacted was STs followed closely by poor pass and run blocking. The defense gave up some plays but Arizona got huge lucky breaks when Warner would launch passes up for grabs and Fitz came down with them.
The team’s biggest problems this season (those problems contributing to losses) have in order been:
- Inconsistent defense
- Poor STs
- Poor OL play
Coaching runs through all of these.
- Turnovers (including Romo)
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "Tuck" rule saved a TD for us
Romo is making too many turnovers.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is caused by the OL
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't put all on the O-line
There were several plays where Romo just help onto the ball to long. He’s not moving around and improvising like he was last year and is trying to be to pocket friendly.
by NDCowboy8 on Oct 13, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A similar rule
allowed Warner’s fumble to be called an incomplete pass. Two replays turned over bad calls.
It doesn’t matter what could have happened. If you want to lay the loss on Romo’s “turnovers” you have to show cause and effect.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the actual fumble
Arizona recovered, they didn’t score so none of those fumbles impacted the game at all.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're spot on
Great analysis – and you’re right about it being coaching, inconsistent D, STs and OL play. We’re soft. Heck, all of Wade’s teams have been soft – and we’re looking like Charmin right now. Our offense can flip a switch and turn it on when we need to – but if we could ever put it all together?
What’s the over/under for games remaining for Wade in Dallas if I set the bar at 10? Obviously if it’s over then we’re talking playoffs – or next season – which would imply playoffs. if it’s under then he’s done after this season – perhaps before. What say you?
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is what fans have to understand
about Romo and his fumbling. If you haven’t noticed, the kid isn’t a huge, big strong player, he doesn’t have huge hands that can grip the ball with great pressure, like the Peyton Mannings and Ben Roethlisbergers of the league. When those guys wrap their meat claws around the ball, they usually will hold to it the majority of the time. Tony doesn’t have those same physical attributes.
The fact is when Romo gets hit, he’s going to fumble, always has, always will. He’s fumbling more this season because he’s getting hit more this season. Our OL just has to do a better job of protecting him, thats the bottom line.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another problem is
If you notice Romo when he drops back he holds the ball with one hand leaving him prone to fumble. He’s not as bad as he once was where he would just leave it out there for defenders to strip. Manning and those other guys don’t fumble like that because they hold the ball with both hands in the pocket so if they do take a blind side hit they are not nearly as prone to fumbling. At Mannings QB camps its one of the number 1 this he stresses about to you QB’s.
by NDCowboy8 on Oct 13, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing i will say...
I prefer this over what happened last year when people actually thought the team was good. I knew the team wasn’t good enough last year, but I think they’re good enough this year. It’s good that these things are happening in week 6 instead of week 14. The question is: what are they going to do about it?
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have major issues
Spotty OL play, inconsistent defense, bone-headed QB, and an atrocious ST unit. Plus, the coaching is seriously suspect and the injury bug is hitting us rather hard.
But it is not time to panic yet, although we have 2 very tough games coming up against the Bucs and the Giants.
If we can get it together, the adversity should serve us well heading into the second half of the season. Unfortunately, I am not confident that this coaching group can pull this team together and/or that these players have the mindset to do it themselves.
by Philosopher on Oct 13, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah such a bone-head
that he’s leading the NFL.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He isn't leading his team right now
and he is right up in the NFL with most turnovers by a QB.
I know, I know, Romo is holy and cannot be criticized because everyone on this team has problems EXCEPT the QB— even though he hasn’t played well for 3 consecutive games, something everyone on this board and around the NFL can see except Terry and apparently you.
He used to be unbelievably handling pressure. He could scramble and make things happen outside the pocket. He can’t seem to do that anymore. He makes poor decisions (BONEHEADED decisions) throwing into horrible coverage, has been overthrowing receivers all year (even back into the preseason) and cannot hold onto the football. He has always been a fumbler and his fumblitis is back this year worse than ever.
His game is off, flat out. Stats don’t mean much when you can’t win a game. If he wouldn’t screw up so much early in the game, we wouldn’t have to deal with his desperate comebacks, which have failed two out of two times this year.
by Philosopher on Oct 13, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said he was holy and couldn't be criticized
that’s a strawman argument. He’s not led the team to 4 wins? But you are missing what’s wrong with the team by laying it all on Romo. He’s not leading his team? Really? He didn’t take 20 hits yesterday and still deliver a strike to Witten to set up the tying FG? He didn’t hang in and keep throwing after having the crap knocked out of him for 4 quarters and get the ball into the hands of TO, Witten and Barber? How is that not leading?
Romo needs to secure the ball better. But you should be able to identify just how badly the line is playing. That is still the number one problem on offense. By a long shot.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said dunk
I actually thought Romo has shown amazing leadership this season, if it wasn’t for Romo, this team would be 1-5 or worse.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get what your saying
He played well enough to get us back in that game, but the fumbles have been happening on a regular basis this season and if we want to go deep in the playoffs and potentially win the superbowl those fumbles will come back to bite us. Am I saying get rid of him absolutely not, but they are a cause for concern and need to be corrected.
by NDCowboy8 on Oct 13, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about stats
Stats don’t mean a damn thing. Tony has been off quite a bit the last few weeks, but I’m not about to blame him for the teams struggles. I’m more concerned with the Defense ans ST.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats matter, as do wins
Stats are an indication of how hos play copmpares to other NFL QBs. So of course they mean SOMETHING. The other indicator is wins. They have a 4-2 record. I’m not saying all is rosy. I am saying it’s overreacting to say Romo is playing badly. He’s not.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon
How did Troy’s stats compare to Favre and Young?
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Stats don’t mean a damn thing
That’s a pretty skewered view to take.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams
Gave up the first 6 and the last 6 – we lost. Read needs to go.
I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys
by stxshooter on Oct 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo out 4 weeks with broken pinkie finger
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Oct 13, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN reporting Romo BROKE his middle finger and could be out a MONTH!!!
Just heard it on DC.com
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll send Flo the thank you card
who else wants to sign?
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No sh*t
You leave in Flo with a non functional left arm and end up with Romo and a broken finger.
Although, I think on the play it was broken the pressure came from the right side.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I do think we put more points on the board if Romo isn’t running for his life or getting killed by the guy running around FLo..
I wish somone would send someone out to block DWare with one arm..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 13, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry....Pinky finger.....
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Were done.........
if this is true……
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If our Boys continue on their present pace, we'll end up with a .666 winning average.
That’s 11-5 or 10-6; barely Wild Card material if the latter W-L holds true.
Wharter
by Wharter on Oct 13, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mickey just said it on DC.com
He was just saying on his radio show “Talkin Cowboys” There is a report by ESPN Romo may be out a month.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
umm...were not making the playoffs
this is the worst time for this. Were playing two division games in the next 5 weeks. One team were 0-1 (Redksins) We can’t drop those division games.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 13, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Romo, No Problem...
… If the team played D it wouldn’t matter who was under center. Sure the games will be tougher, but the D should be able to carry this team.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats being delusional
ask the pats how they’re doin without their star qb.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 13, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
typical thinking
The Pats don’t have near as much talent as Dallas and Johnson is better than that clown they have at QB.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pats are mentally tougher.
this Cowboys team was still trying to find itself. It’s going to be painful to watch.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL...
“Find itself” NO, the Cowboys need to stop with the stupid penalties, tighten up special teams, and dig in and stop people on Defense.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
That sounds like a good recipe for success
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh? Do you remember when Bledsoe was under center? That's what BJ will be.
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad doesn't...
…have to carry the team, he just needs to manage the game. Bottom line, if the defense and special teams continue to play poorly, it won’t matter who’s under center. The problem wasn’t the QB play, the problem is and has been the defense and ST all year.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically what you're saying is
Brad just has to be Eli Manning.
by mhuff13 on Oct 13, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO, but the Cowboys D needs to play like the Giants D :-)
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This should make the Romo-skeptics happy
The Cowboys will reel off 10 wins in a row without the Tony Albatross holding them back.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 13, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now you're just being spiteful - LOL.
Unless we go out and get another QB, we’re finished. BJ looked awful in pre-season and as much as I hate Tony’s turnovers – I’ll take him any day over all but 2 QB’s in the league (Brady, Manning). No Tony, no playoffs.
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Folks, we are one big hit away from Brooks Bollinger."
Just read that on “Blogging The Boys”. Wow.
by GodsTeam on Oct 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's The Green Bay Curse...
Just like last year when they defeated GB, they fell apart afterwards.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Oct 13, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't know about u
but, I am glad Tashard Choice looked like a beast during the pre-season..
I am looking forward to seeing what he has..
Good thing Stanback is available.
Brad Johnson needs to come in and spread it around.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 13, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
another thing
Spencer looked so explosive, but he can’t go out of the trainers room..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 13, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer is pissing me off
I wanted him to take the job away from Ellis, but the guy can’t even get on the field.
by BK Arsonist on Oct 13, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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