Felix Jones likely out two weeks; McBriar out 6-8 weeks
by Tuna Helper on Oct 13, 2008 3:51 PM CDT
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PrintAnd the parade of bad news continues.
I've checked around many sources (DMN, Star-Telegram, ESPN, etc.) and DC.com is the only organization reporting this story. Still, I trust Spags.
Felix Jones is likely to miss a few weeks. Apparently, it's a hamstring strain.
How awesome is that? We lose our QB for a month, our top CB for a month and now arguably the Rookie of the Year is out for a few weeks. I'm sorry if my response is dripping with sarcasm. That's my only solace right now to this whirlwind of bad news. I'm still dealing with the disappointment of Sunday's loss. Now this.
The DMN Blog said we're going to need Jones that much more now. Ain't that the truth. Without him we lose some much speed and explosiveness in our offense and our special teams.
The silver lining in all of this is that we're going to see more of Tashard Choice. I'm really excited about that. I think he's a smart, tough and talented young player. But this news is only deepening my depression and filling my trash bin with more and more empty containers of Bud Light.
Sigh. At least the Dow Jones is recovering. But I can deal with a recession. I'm still unsure I can endure a month without Romo, Newman AND Felix Jones.
Oh and if that wasn't enough. Our stud punter is out 6-8 weeks with a fructured foot.
Just great.
Time to buy another 18-pack.
Shout out to ender0887 and jthig332 for their fanposts here and here.
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I thought McBriar was going to be injued when I saw it.
He should have run with it at that point, but oh well.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
He should have kicked the guy in the johnson.
It would have made me feel better, at least.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Call Danny White!
He and Brad Johnson are almost the same age, and he can cover Romo and McBriar.
Seriously, they kind of have to put McBriar on IR, right? You’ve got 2 hurt safeties, a hurt CB, a hurt QB, a hurt RB, a hurt LG, and a hurt WR, unless Hurd goes to IR, also. That’s 7 roster spots taken by injuries, and all guys that you want to keep. You can’t carry 2 punters with that many guys hurt.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
I would think
8 weeks is mid-December. By then you’ve been made or broken.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Just hike it to Pacman or someone.
Forget punting, just drop one of our returners back and go for it every 4th down. 10 blockers and a speedster, we’ll get our share. Maybe Crayton or Stanback are the best bets, since they can throw it, too.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for the single wing?
I few weeks ago someone posted this question and I found it funny, but it ain’t looking so bad right now.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Cat was healthy
we could run the Wildcat, Miami has been doing it.
I say every 4 series bring in Stanback, have him line up along side Crayton in the backfield and teams won’t know who is going to pass the ball. LOL
In Romo we Trust
You need someone creative to draw up those kind of plays.
Phillips?; Garrett?; I don’t think so.
Wharter
You also need someone to block
I don’t Flo “El Matador” Adams is up for it. Too much running and stuff.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I think T.O. might work.
As the Ricky Williams role in the Wildcat. Direct snap it to Barber, and have T.O. going across the field, possibly receiving the handoff. Heck, rotate him, Austin, and Stanback until Felix is back.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Are we really talking about the wildcat and the single wing.
Yeah that would be fun on Madden.
The line just needs to get nasty and plow the road.
I bet they got an earful for Houck.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
This will unify Cowboys Nation!
I think this will bring the Cowboys fans and the team together, and make everyone stronger in the long run. Everyone who said that those criticizing the team should just be happy with a win will get their wish, because I think all fans will be thrilled with wins with all of these guys out. The team can rally together and say, “No one thinks we can do it!” That would actually be true for most teams, but this team has so much talent, they will be fine.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Friedrich Nietzsche
would be sooo proud of you, Soup.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Hey Dunkman! Philosopher is the poster that's supposed to know about folks like
Nietzsche, St. Thomas Acquinas, Thomas Locke, etc.
I’m impressed!
Wharter
Teams are going to play 9 in the box
and simply dare Johnson to beat them and if the OL doesn’t step up their play, we’re going to see a lot of ugly football over the next several weeks.
I just hope the Rams are a little content in their first win and play against us like they have the first 5 weeks. It might be our only chance at a “W” until Romo and company heal up.
In Romo we Trust
I think he'll beat them if they do.
He’ll still have Witten, T.O., MB3 and Crayton. I bang on Crayton, but he’s supposed to have great hands and is good at catch and run underneath stuff. If they go 1 on 1 with T.O., even Bollinger will torch them. Witten’s probably going to get 36 more catches before the bye week.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo sound slike knoght in Monty Python
trying to fight with no arms and no legs… heh heh
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Boy that was some a** up typing
you sound like that knight in the Monty Python flick. Whatever.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
yup they are going to role cover 2
and stack the line…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Anybody know about the ability of Folk to punt?
I think I read somewhere (maybe the DMN blog) that that was a big reason that we drafted Folk, because he also has the ability to punt. If so, that might be a pretty decent option.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
According to rookiepedia.com
I know, not a great source. http://www.rookiepedia.com/index.php?title=Nick_Folk
Stepped up and handled the punting duties as well as his placekick chores after Danny Baugher’s injury in seventh game, and finished with league-best 44.7-yard average on a substantial 22 punts, sticking eight inside the 20 with only two touchbacks
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, here are his punting stats from college:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=136723
YEAR TEAM ATT AVG LNG NET
2005 ARIZ 22 44.7 61 44.7
2006 ARIZ 74 44.0 78 44.0
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like he can
If they want to keep McBriar on the roster instead of IR, they might have to let him. Or cut one of the backup O-linmen to make room for another punter.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
He was the full time kicker and punter his senior year.
Wow, 74 is a lot of punts for a college team, isn’t it?
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Where's that camp leg we had in preseason with the long last name?
He was kickin the lining out of the ball.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF.
I went to work and didnt listen to the radio because of BSPN. I get home and all hell has broken lose. Tony out a month. Felix for two weeks.
Watch Pacman get suspended tommorrow.
We need a bye week.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
Negative.....he won't!
He has a slight hamstring tear. He will NOT be practicing…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
They didn't say, only that he has fractured bones and will likely
be placed on IR.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
ESPN reported before he has a slight tear...
and will likely side line him until after the bye week. Which means at least 4 weeks…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
There is a huge difference bewteen a slight tear and a tear...
About 2-4 weeks worth of a difference
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Sure do I had one.....
still a 2-4 week injury no matter how you slice it. That’s why they said not until after the bye week to play it safe. That would put them at 4 weeks. They don’t want it escalating into a full blown tear because that would mean IR.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
I know this because I'm an athletic trainer...
How’d you do yours?
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Playing football
was a RB in HS and LB in college for 2 seasons. I had a slight tear in HS and they held me out for 3 games. I think I could’ve played after 2 probably, but they played it safe. Hopefully it is only 2 games for Felix, but I would hate to see them rush him back and aggravating it.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Nah, not really.....
but I can tell you I wasn’t the same for many weeks. I didn’t have the speed and strength prior to the injury. For weeks it felt very delicate as if I could re- injure or tweak it. It took until the off season for it to be normal again.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
I also had a Type III seperated shoulder
that nearly required surgery, probably should’ve. I was in a sling for 2 or 3 weeks I believe. That has never been the same since….man, that hurt…..lol
I think Stanback had a Type I or II.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Holy friggin' stuff!!
I got out for 3 hours, I come back, and another player is out for significant time!
Wow. Just Wow.
I am officially depressed now.
ESPN reporting Mcbriar will be placed on IR
and Felix Jones won’t be back until after the bye week……
Hurd will be placed on IR…….
Now we will have a reason for being a medicore team…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Trade Rumor with Detroit
I hope this is a rumour..but profootballtalk is reporting that the boys are talking to Detroit for Kitna and Roy Williams for Flozell and a 1st rounder….i like Roy Williams here…not too sure abt Kitna….
Here’s the snippet
There also is speculation linking Kitna to the Cowboys, along with speculation of a package deal that would send Kitna and receiver Roy Williams to Dallas for tackle Flozell Adams and a first-round pick.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/13/niners-not-interested-in-kitna/
I saw the rumor of Kitna
I would pull the deal for Kitna and Roy Williams…..Not for Kitna, but only to acquire Roy Williams. I don’t see a need for us to trade for any QB. Bollinger is more than capable if something happened to Johnson.
Flozell…..I could live without him..Good player, but inconsistant at times and makes too many penalties. He is also long in the tooth and prone to injury. If they want to take on his salary, great…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
The coaches didnt think enough of our backups yesterday to put them in
When Flo couldn’t lift his arms above his shoulders. You think they want to put them in permanently?
Not to mention we would eat his ENTIRE signing bonus on next year’s salary cap.
No thanks.
Detriot senses our desperation
We need to try to get Roy straight up for Flozell…Detroit is just trying to get rid of Kitna..maybe we can work another team into this…and pick up a ST player
Stop with the trade Flozell talk
He got a $16 million signing bonus.
When you trade a player, any part of the signing bonus you haven’t paid gets applied to the cap the following year.
Unless Jerry paid tons of it this year, which I doubt, it would be a HUGE cap hit for us next year.
Who the hell is gonna protect our QB's blind side?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, but they probably back loaded the heck out of his salary
which means trading him is possible. I don’t know his numbers, but I bet his base salary isn’t high for a LT.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
The base doesn't matter
The bonus does. The bonus does NOT get transferred to the new team, only the base. The bonus gets paid (whatever is left at the time of the trade) in a lump the following year. So we’d be out probably 10-12 million next year for a player not playing for us.
Flozell sure has looked old the last few games, but ...
the options behind him are a big drop off!
Mcbriar has fractured bones in his foot
they will need to place him on IR to make room for another kicker.
Jerry needs make a trade….
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
I would give a #1 for Roy
or a straight up trade Flozell for Roy. Roy has a ton more upside than Flozell at this point in his career.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Williams would be awesome in this offense...your out of you mind..lol
It would be another L. Davis situation. Williams plays for the Lions dude!!!
How would he not do well here.
He would be a 1000 yard 10-15 TD We here…..WITH TO.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Go look at his stats and tell me he sucks......lol
impressive numbers for a player that’s been on a bad team for years.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Now they're sayin Hurd is out for the season.
Nice.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
Yes
Mcbriar likely also.
Roy Willaims and Watkins will be back next week they are saying.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Everyone says Roy is awful
And we are glad just to get him back…
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
I'm not saying it.
I think we actually been alot better against the long ball while he was out
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
If I were Roy
I would be laughing it up at teh way this defense has been torn up the last few weeks. Looks like he wasnt the only problem after all.
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
THANK U SIR..
Roy never was the problem..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Hurd's roster spot
Who fills it ya think? Jefferson is still on suspension. Do we call up Amendola or try and find a veteran out there to sign?
I think Stanback becomes active on gamedays.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, probably true
But there is still an open spot. What do you think we do with it?
I would like to grab another reciever, but maybe we try and get someone good on special teams in particular?
+1
Activate Stanback to return KO’s and become 4th WR. The open spot on the 53 man roster also allows the Cowboys to sign a punter.
That will leave us with one more open spot, maybe another RB. Might be Coleman off the PS.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
true
Coleman speed makes him a quality compliment. KR Amendola?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
I know they had Danny Boy practicing returns
At this point maybe they should bring him up for a try. Brad likes to check down a lot. He may like another WR who can play in the slot.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
good point
Interested see what happens..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
and coke zero as a mixer
Thank u.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
The MNF crew is having a good time hating on the Cowboys, now you fellas understand my nick.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 13, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
They seem downright giddy
I hate watching them.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Keyshawn said, “we don’t know what we’re going to get out of the Dallas Cowboys” and you could hear one of them (I presume Jackson) snickering like a school girl in the background.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 13, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Jaws is an ex Philly Qb
It is to be expected..
Still don’t see how a no win team beating the Deadskins is not a bigger story..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Or this seasons '85 Bears (the Ravens) getting lit up for 31
They love to hate us. Which makes me love us more.
Speaking of drinking and football… these fellas are always in my town drinking on Saturday nights at the local bars. Emmitt and Ditka are regulars at my local bar.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 13, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
He is a hater, he wanted to play football and his buddy Bill wouldn’t even give him a job with the ONCE-lowly Fins.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 13, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions
I’d like to see someone on the cowboys rally the club for a “TEAM ON 3” chant…
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 13, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions
injuries happen
yeah it’s all a major bummer. but injuries happen. it’s part of the game. the measure of a team is how it overcomes injuries, how the backups step up, and the rest of the team and the coaching adjusts and compensates. that’s why we traded for Pac and got two CBs in the draft. That’s why we got two RBs in the draft. That’s why we traded for Bollinger. It sucks, and it’s a bummer, but there are no excuses. This week they’ve just got to get ready for the Rams and go win with Brad and Tashard and the rookie CBs (and some punter, not sure how they’ll deal with that).
We really need to make it through the next 3 games 2-1 at least with this division. Then we’d be 6-3 going into the bye, and still in decent position, depending on the rest of the division. If we’re 5-4 going into the bye, not good. BTW, Go Browns!!!
But hopefully we’ll go into the bye 6-3 at least, and then come back with Romo, TNew and Felix all back in action and ready to roll for the final stretch.
11-5, not likely......
Not this year…..
were going to be a 9-6 team and miss out…
Were going to lose at least 3 more games from now until the end of the season witht this injured rattled group.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
way to keep positive..
If Todd Collins can do it Brad can do it..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Take the blinders off.....
Were not going far with a 40 yr old QB and the injuries we have. Add to that Pacman possibly being suspended. We were also playing like crap before these injuries so what makes you think we will play better?
We have to go 2-1 over the stretch or we are not making the playoffs……There will be only 2 teams at the most from the NFC East going in. That’s a given….
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
It will be dog fight
But it is possible. If STL and Cleveland can win, we can go 2-1
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Stl is not the problem
The Redskins and Giants are, which are two division games. We are already one game down to a division opponent. If we drop both those division games are chances of making the playoffs are slim.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Update
Todd Archer reports that P Mat McBriar suffered a fractured right foot when Arizona’s Sean Morey blocked the punt in overtime. He’s expected to miss 6-8 weeks.
We’ll let you know as soon as we have some info about potential punting replacements.
UPDATE: Agent Jack Bechta said the doctor’s recommendation was that McBriar be placed on injured reserve, ending his season.
Bechta also represents Jay Ottovegio, the rookie punter from Stanford who was in the Cowboys’ training camp. Bechta said the team had contacted him about Ottovegio, but they were just putting together a list of punting candidates.
Sam Paulescu, who was in the Cowboys’ camp last year and the Broncos’ camp this year, is a more probable candidate.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
As Many Teams Blowing Hot and Cold
So far this year, it may come down to who’s hot at the end. Injuries happen, and the good teams play through them and find a way to win.
We still have a load of talent, and if we can’t regroup around Romo being gone for three games and losing our punter for the season, then we aren’t a very good team to begin with.
I’ll start trying to find the ledge after we lose our seventh game. There’s a lot of football yet to be played.
BUMMED in CT
hey guys… just as bummed out as all of you…
not really sure what to think… AND all the Giant fans around me are having a field day…
obviously losing Romo hurts, but the loss of felix really hurts… i COULD have seen him MBIII and Choice step it up and cover for Brad Johnson’s shortcomings, but just not sure now..
I would say IF we had some REAL leaders on offense, we could over come this by going 3 and 1 over our next 4 and head into the bye in decent shape, looking to get some top players back after that.. but we need someone to step up.. we have plenty that are talented enough to walk the walk, but we need someon to talk the talk….
even without said players i think we can beat the Rams and the Bucs, but the Skins and Giant games on the road will be really rough…. and those are the important ones..
if we can steal one of those we would be in good shape… but someone, anyone needs to step up, hit the panic button and get some fire under these guys..
maybe when felix and romo return, that fire can be there and we could be ok to hit a wild card spot and hit our stride at the right time…
losing Hurd and McBriar, regardless of the amount of time is the least of our worries…
so i am not giving up yet, but someone needs to show the team and us fans some fire…
Romo should be back for Skins game
remember we have our bye within that time frame.
In Romo we Trust
oh yea, thanks for chiming in on that...
would have forgot that totally….
oh yea.. rams, bucks, giants, bye, skins.. ok…
Maybe they could bring up Amendola. And there are other spare parts on the practice
squad that might shine. Nothing to lose.
Wharter
Terry, I can't decide who you resemble more.
Pollyana or Nicolas Chauvin. LOL LOL LOL!
Wharter
This Could Get Interesting
Some teams come together in the face of adversity, others wither. We’ll see if there’s a leader on the Cowboys who will light a fire under them. Wade Phillips isn’t, he relies on players to lead. I’d hope Romo would be the guy, but he’s just to emotionally fragile at this point. It amazes me how after a bad series he moaps off the field like a kid who just got his favorite toy stolen. He’s young though.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe it's Brad Johnson.
The guy is a veteran, super bowl winning QB. He’s seen it all. Or maybe it’s T.O. This is really the time for a guy like him to put the team on his back. How about Roy Williams? What a story that would be if the guy comes back and toughens up the defense and looks like the Roy we all know and love from his rookie year.
It’ll be hard for it to be Romo right now, since he’s out. But he can be a leader by studying and refining his game in the meantime, so he can be the leader when he gets back. That would make a great story, too. Reputation as a guy who fades and makes big mistakes, gets hurt, comes back and leads his team to a championship.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
We gotta get 2 of the next 3 somehow.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 13, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
+1
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
For now, I'll just be happy with a win against the Rams -- without serious injuries...
"I'll give anybody a loan here if you bet against the Cowboys." - Jerry Jones, with sarcasm dripping from his voice.
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+1
One game at a time
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 13, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone
needs to put up security rope around all the cliffs and high buildings in and around the city of Dallas.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
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