ESPN: Adam Jones suspended indefinitely; Roy Williams trade rumors flying
by Brandon Worley on Oct 14, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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PrintPer ESPN, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Adam Jones for at least 4 games, and will evaluate his status after the Cowboys' week 11 game.
In announcing his decision, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Jones' "disturbing pattern of behavior was clearly inconsistent with the conditions I set for your continued participation in the NFL."
Time for the rookies to step up. It was why they were drafted.
Hat tip to Bloomth and CTBoy for their fanposts breaking the news.
In other news ESPN is reporting that the Cowboys are actively vying for Detroit WR Roy Williams. Currently the Cowboys are offering a first round pick, yet the Lions are asking for more. At this point all talk of a trade is mere speculation but anything is possible as we approach the 4 PM (EST) trade deadline. ESPN is reporting that the Lions are hesitant on the deal because they do not have a general manager.
The DMN blog is also reporting about the trade offer, quoting an Adem Schefter report. Pro Football Talk is also reporting the same story.
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This blows
I guess this is pile on the Cowboys week.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
As much of a homer as I am...
I can’t get mad about this. Obviously he just doesn’t get it or has some mental condition that keeps him from getting it. Either way, this is one risk that didn’t pay off for Jerry…time to move on. Good luck in Canada Pacman ’eh.
I'm not mad
But I’m not sure that the incident that occurred deserved an indefinite suspension. It really irks me when I think about the non-punishment delivered to Belicheat after the video taping incident.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Uneffective
in the return game as well as pass defense. How big of a loss can this really be besides losing a player with a unique nickname? Scandrick is lookin good and hopefully Jenkins comes into his own.
Part that bothers me the most
isn’t that he screwed up, rather that Jerry tried to sweep it under the rug and assumed nothing happened like he did in the 90s. Thankfully Goodell stepped in and backed up his threat.
Jerry didn't try to sweep it under the rug, He knew that the NFL would....
dictate the punshment!
Speaking of Belicheat..I wonder if he ever replaced that jacket that was once owned
By Typhoid Annie?
Wharter
A few more days of this
and our practice squad will become the starting lineup!
LOL
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Time to cut Pac lose, get back our draft pick, and end this mess.
I gave the man as much of a chance as anyone this off season, and was defending him left and right. But for now, he just isn’t worth all the destraction and negative media hype. Plus the fact that we basically gave up a 4th round pick for a player for 6 games, is just worthless.
I agree
He’s simply not worth keeping around now. Cut him, and let Jenkins and Scandrick learn on the job. Should we manage to win a game before the bye week, I think we’ll be in good shape assuming Newman can come back.
Man, when it rains, it pours. I don’t particularly like the Roy Williams talk either.
Word from the Ticket
Is that Austin is included with the 1st rounder offer for Williams…any corroboration on this?
Muschamp seems like the kind of guy who used to beat up guys like Bob Stoops in high school.
Its more about depth to me.
I know we have Stanback, butt we have most likely lost Hurd for the season. Austin has shown he can make plays when needed (Or tip the ball to andrickCrayton).
So you lose a receiver, give up a first, and give up another receiver?
by Brandon Worley on Oct 14, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think RW is an established, elite #1
He is a decent #1 or a very good #2. An upgrade, but that is a lot to pay for a pending free agent.
I'm assuming (or hoping)
that Jerry thinks he could get Williams to sign an extension, if not…oh boy would that trade burn us.
I don't think it's worth it anyway...
…the Lions are asking entirely too much for a guy that they’re selling low on…
…keep that #1 and go get Maclin next year (assuming he declare)
Muschamp seems like the kind of guy who used to beat up guys like Bob Stoops in high school.
Let him wait a half a season
It’s not like getting him will put us in the Super Bowl, not how we’ve been playing anyway. Then sign him FOR MUCH CHEAPER next season. IMO, he’ll have a crappy year and his stock will plummet…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 14, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm selfish
I want our team to have BOTH.
but for a first and third at the most…well, and maybe Barbie Carpenter thrown in, as well.
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According to Rotoworld...
Adam Schefter reported that the Lions wanted Ware straight up for RW
HA ?!?!?!
If Jerry loves this team as much as I do he needs to pull the trigger
Roy Williams is a very talented receiver in a bad situation.
Do you still think this team is a threat to go deep this year?
If so, pull the trigger. if not, keep the first rounder and sign him in the off-season. Personally I opt for the latter as I think we’re more than a receiver away.
F Him
Selfish piece of crap. Got in a fight with his baby sitter. Jenkins its time to step up boy. Newman, earn your money. Henry, stop sucking. As for the rest of the roster, Felix was a luxury for us, MB needs to earn his pay right about now. WRs besides TO suck, need Roy. as for Romo, we kept BJ for a reason, he has to win at least 2 out of 3 if the OL helps a lil.
by NamingRightsOnSale on Oct 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
We all knew this was going to happen
might as well deal with it. We just have to whether the storm until after the bye week.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Is it too early to start talking about the draft?
How high of a pick will we get?
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
well...
everyone wondered what would happen when adversity hit…it is definitely here…
i can understand the decision. i don’t agree with it. the conduct policy is to broad and gives goodell too much power. he’s the commissioner not overlord of law and justice. but jones knew what he was getting into. if he can’t follow the rules in this ideal situation than maybe he can’t follow the rules ever.
but despite the fact that we lose pac, we come out the deal with draft picks. so jerry definitely covered his butt. and pac’s contract was reasonable so no big loss there.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
Unreal..
the suspension is a load of bull… no police report was filed, and they incident stated, that “he MIGHT have been drinking”.
if Matt Jones can blow coke of his dashboard with enough of it to be legally selling, and not be suspended how can pac be suspended for 4 games? if you are all ready to cut him, thats fine whatever. but the fact is he is a great “talent” and he has been pretty effective in pass coverage lately.
the fact is he shouldn’t have been suspended for 4 games, if at all. it’s bullshit, sorry for the profanity. but seriously think about it
Yeah Matt Jones not being suspended at all for that and Pacman getting at least 4 games
for a little fight is what really bothers me.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Another example of Goodell's uneven distribution of "justice"
Another? Wade Wilson suspended for 4 of 5 weeks for using HGH; not distributing it or giving it to anyone else, but personally using it. Head coac caught blatantly cheating? No suspension.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Here's a comparison
Person #1 has been convicted twice for felonies and gets arrested for Hitting someone with a rock during an argument.
Person #2 gets arrested for armed robbery, yet has no criminal record, before this.
Who gets the harsher sentence?
If said person has been convicted twice
Then you can’t compare that to Pacman. I don’t think Pacman has been convicted of any felonies.
But, just using your argument above, I am more worried about someone that would prey on an innocent victim with a weapon and rob them than someone that gets hit with a rock in an argument as they may have provoked the other person in some way. One is a crime of passion, the other a crime of planning and forethought.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
true he was never arrested
but he was suspended several times, which put Jones in the position that any actions he takes will be dealt with much harsher than what others would receive. He may not have liked it but it’s what he agreed upon.
But in my argument above I was going more for the history rather than the crime itself, I should have used the same crime for both.
I knew where you were trying to go
I would like to see someone compare the history of Chris Henry and Pacman Jones; their crimes, arrests, suspensions, etc. I think this would be the best comparative case. It seems like Henry has had less punishment than Pacman, but I seem to remember he was doing stuff just as bad and also has a history like Pacman. I guess that’s the best way to compare.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
I'm not sure about felonies
But Pacman has copped several pleas already, which are convictions. He probably wouldn’t be free if they were felonies, but it’s not like his record is clean. Not that it takes away from the discussion, just saying.
Unfortunately, P. Jones has quite an extensive criminal history compared to M. Jones
And that’s probably what factored into da Commish’s decision.
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We're lucky Pac Man is not banned from the league honestly
Goodell has basically said that there is a no tolerance policy with Pac Man. I’ll take a 4 game suspension.
true dat
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Were offrering a 1st round pick and Detroit isn't taking that?
I can’t believe they wouldn’t jump at a chance for a 1st round pick. I think thats too high a price for Williams anyway but what has having Roy Williams done for the Lions?
exactly
and that’s why Jerry should immediately respond, “all right, Detroit. thanks anyway.”
don’t think the Lions are gonna get anything better than a 1st round draft pick offer.
unless da King stupidly bids against himself. and if so, that would make him more stupid than them.
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most definitely NOT...
…my bust, I meant to type in to throw in an additional 3rd rounder, esp. since we have two 3rd round selections in the ’09 draft.
i just don’t want us giving up a player like D-Ware and/or an additional first rounder in like 2010 or something.
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Ware is not going anywhere
Ware is easily twice as valuable as Roy Williams. Probably more than that. Don’t even worry about it.
Not sure of Detroit's mindset
but I’m assuming their thoughts are that even at 0-4 there’s a chance whereas without Williams theres no chance…either that or they’re hoping someone else joins in in the 11th hour and drives up the price.
Offering more than a 1st rder for Williams is stupid
He clearly is not an elite receiver in this league. He doesn’t have great speed, can’t get off the line very well and is a china doll.
I really hope this trade doesn’t go through.
As for Pacrat, I hate to say I told you so, but…..a leopard simply never changes his spots. This punk deserves to be banned from the league.
In Romo we Trust
hahaha -- i know right.
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Did Tank Johnson change his spots?
or the many other problem players? Reality is some do, some don’t which is why you take the chance and hope you don’t sacrifice too much for it.
Tank was never a bad apple like Pacrat
he just liked guns too much. Name me a problem player who has, I bet you can’t.
In Romo we Trust
unlicensed weapons and assault != Like guns too much
And multiple arrests sounds like a bad apple to me, unless you’re in the same mindset as Jerry in that there are big misunderstandings.
Don’t forget, Johnson was once ordered under house arrest. Can you name a good apple whose been under such an order? Bet you can’t
Guns
Dude that gun incident was in Chicago. Here in Texas nobody blinks an eye at a man’s arsenal of guns.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Oct 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember Philly is supposedly bidding on him also
I don’t like the idea of going up against him and desean jackson twice a year.
Terry is like
the biggest negative Nancy on this blog. For the life of me I can’t tell if he’s a guy or a girl
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
so, this means Titans send us a 5th and we send then our 6th...
there may not be many picks difference here!
14 minutes to go...
No Roy Williams, now they’re saying Philly could nab him… NOOOOO!!!!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions
T minus 10...
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Yeah I know but with the CB situation and Lito Sheppard always playing well
against us it would be worth a shot.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
philly would be more open to talking about that in the off-season, but not in-season... IMHO.
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i know right
"I'll give anybody a loan here if you bet against the Cowboys." - Jerry Jones, with sarcasm dripping from his voice.
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thanks for da tip, btw... i'll be changing that quote soon -- heh, heh!!!
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JJ can't honestly think this team is good enough to compete for a superbowl as it is, needs a CB upgrade in the next 3 minutes, no question.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
I don't know about that
If we can make it through these next 3 weeks and stay in the playoff hunt, we’ll be ok assuming Newman can come back healthy. It will be ugly at times with Jenkins and Scandrick, but it will also whip them into shape.
Henry having the footspeed of a sloth is helping either.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Per Schefter
We just aquired RW from the Lions.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
i'm tempering my excitement until i see the terms of the deal
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Definetely a 1st
And he thinks another pick, but they haven’t been disclosed yet.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Man, I've got three windows on firefox open here at work
espn.com, nfl.com, and bloggingtheboys.com
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that's it. for real? if so, "SUH-WEET!"
"I'll give anybody a loan here if you bet against the Cowboys." - Jerry Jones, with sarcasm dripping from his voice.
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That scream you just heard from Irving
was Crayton after finding out he’s going back to the slot position, perhaps next time you’ll give extra effort against single coverage
LOL!
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what's funny about the rotoworld.com writeup is...
…that they’ve got a pic of Roy Williams our SS
AND the following words:
"Because the one thing they are missing is a diva wide receiver. "
Now THAT’S Hilarious!!!
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we get williams for
1st rounder for sure
posthocergopropterhoc
"Why bring dividing politics to this blog Adam? Why? I get enough of it everywhere else. I don’t want it on the sports blogs I read." - tasan
Finally, some good news for a change!
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posthocergopropterhoc
"Why bring dividing politics to this blog Adam? Why? I get enough of it everywhere else. I don’t want it on the sports blogs I read." - tasan
Pacman should
clean out his locker. He is no help to this team. He is a spoiled punk and has not shown that much on the field.
Get gone.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Conflicting
NFL Network scroll has it as first round pick but Shefer mentions it as “At least a first round pick and at least another high pick involved”, so take with that what you can. I’m sure we’ll hear more about it in the next hour.
What scares me is that we may have thrown in a third as well thanks to the Eagles getting involved.
The Cowboys had their own category on espn's bottomline last night.
How long until we get a half hour show?
NO 1st rounder
The Dallas Cowboys are close to a deal to acquire wide receiver Roy Williams from the Detroit Lions, a source told ESPN.com Tuesday. The trade would involve multiple draft picks but would not involve the Cowboys’ first-round pick.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
schefter says 1st rounder involved
posthocergopropterhoc
"Why bring dividing politics to this blog Adam? Why? I get enough of it everywhere else. I don’t want it on the sports blogs I read." - tasan
c'mon...
Lets be serious… what are the chances that a 6th rounder would amount to anything great? A 3rd rounder? Hit or miss, I mean we took Bennett in the 2nd round, he might have 15 receptions by years end. Roy Williams in an elite WR that can take us to the Super Bowl, if that happens, it’s all worth it, I don’t want to hear otherwise.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
That's the $64 question
Whether you think this team with Williams will be able to keep up with Philly/Washington and the Giants while missing two cornerbacks, our strong safety (Hold your laughter), punt/kick returners, punter and other players.
Unless we stay healthy I think we overpaid for someone we could have gotten in March.
Keep in mind we’re only missing Newman for another 2-3 weeks, possibly only missing Pacman for 4, If we can make the playoffs and get healthy late, boy thats a dangerous team. And good look to opposing secondaries doubling TO now, I believe this will create more man on man situations for TO/Witten/Williams…
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
Since pacman has been suspended...
do we get the Titans 5th round pic in ’09?
" high and tight Martellus, high and tight."
yup
The Lions will receive the Cowboys’ 2009 first-round pick, a third-round pick and sixth-round pick. The Cowboys get Detroit’s 2009 seventh-round pick in the Williams trade, plus Tennessee’s 2009 fifth-round pick now that cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones has been suspended at least four games for violating the league’s personal conduct policy.
So Roy Williams + 7th rounder for 1, 3, 6, doesn't look so bad afterall. The 7/6 are a scratch, like I said earlier, find a player in the 1st or 3rd round next year that will be as good as Roy without taking years to develop. This was a no brainer, way
GO COWBOYS!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
Time for PAC-MAN
To join MMA, put that agression to good use..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
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