Dallas Cowboys acquire WR Roy Williams in trade with Detroit
The Cowboys on Tuesday acquired UT-ex Roy Williams from Detroit for first-, third- and sixth-round picks in 2009 while the Lions will kick back their seventh-rounder in 2009, moments before the 3 p.m. trade deadline, according to a source.
I must note that right now there are conflicting reports between NFL Network and ESPN over compensation. The DMN is the best source we have for this information, but know that the information could change when the trade is officially announced.
UPDATE: DallasCowboys.com is supporting the DMN story, stating the trade is for a 1st, 3rd and 6th in the 2009 draft.
ESPN is standing firm on their stance that the trade does not include a 1st round pick. [Note by Brandon W, 10/14/08 4:57 PM EDT ] ESPN has changed the story to reflect all others. Great job, Ed Werder.
More to come.
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NO PLAYERS!!!!!!!
AWESOME!!! I was waiting to see we got rid of Austin or Ware to get him and I was REALLY going to throw my computer against the wall…good riddens Pacman, I FINALLY have good news this week
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 14, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
Man I needed a little good news...
after 2 days of hell. Welcome to the Boyz Roy.
Agreed.
Worst two days the Cowboys have had since the playoff loss.
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
thank God it doesn't involve players
I really didn’t want to lose Austin in this deal. Its bad enough we have to give up draft picks.
In Romo we Trust
I love Jerry
best owner in the world hands down. Even if we don’t get another superbowl under his tenure, he has done everything to put the Cowboys in a position to win.
+1 quincyyyyy
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2nd Rounder in 09 and 2nd Rounder in 2010
That’s what ESPN just reported
dude if that's the case
Halla FREAKING LEUYA!!! No first rounders…so crucial!
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 14, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?
No 1st rounders? If that’s true then Jerry is an effing genius.
Muschamp seems like the kind of guy who used to beat up guys like Bob Stoops in high school.
That seems a bit high
A 1 and two 2’s?
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
guess da King has learned from past blunders
and good for him
and good for our Cowboys
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Imagine if Matt Millen was still their GM
We might’ve been able to get an even better deal out of it :~)
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So...
Does this mean I should go grab Brad Johnson in my fantasy league?
Muschamp seems like the kind of guy who used to beat up guys like Bob Stoops in high school.
He's a free agent after this year, and
not liable to resign with the Cowboys.
2 second round picks is on the steep side.
Not as bad as the seahawks Deon Branch deal a few years back, though.
According to Schefter
There was some informal agreement with Williams that he would renegotiate his contract.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
I have Roy Williams on my fantasy team
by the fantasy playoffs Roy should be fully integrated into our offense.
eff yah. great trade. welcome, the good roy williams..
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That does seem a bit high
But I guess the sixth is the one we would have lost to Tennesee anyway, so in reality just a 1 and a 3.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
ok right now...
There is some difference in reporting between ESPN and NFL Network. Let’s give it a bit and the truth will come out.
Right now the DMN blog has crashed.
Per Todd Archer
The Cowboys on Tuesday acquired UT-ex Roy Williams from Detroit for first-, third- and sixth-round picks in 2009 while the Lions will kick back their seventh-rounder in 2009, moments before the 3 p.m. trade deadline, according to a source.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/101508dnspocowboyswilliams.111b05472.html
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tank U, sir...
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Dallas will still have their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounders in the 2009 draft
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Oh yeah, you're right. I plum forgot about the additional 3rd rounder!
Good catch, Taylor!!!
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1st and 3rd
NICE. WOOOOOT!
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TOO MUCH TO GIVE UP
"Water covers 2/3 of the world, T-New's got the rest"
So ...
Basically, today, we got a good #2 WR, a 5th, and a 7th
for
A 1st, 3rd, and a 6th …
I’ll take it!!
Good way to look at it
And we also get to keep our 6th that we would’ve had to send to Tenn.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Great Move
for the Cowboys offensively. Should hopefully free up T.O. Teams can’t double up on TO anymore. T.O. and Witten should benefit.
Espn has two people saying not first.
Mort on TV saying not the first. Werder online saying not first.
I generally tend to trust Schefter more than BSPN
He generally seems to get the scoop and be more accurate than anyone else.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Exactly. I don't have enough fingers & toes to count how many times BSPN had to correct...
…their “breaking” news info.
I too trust NFLN’s Schefter over BSPN’s clowns.
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It will make for good games to watch
Though get your Tums and alcoholic drink of choice ready.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
I feel like he had more than enough opportunity and never established himself
as anything more than a #3. And even that may be in jeopardy considering Austin is ballin’.
awesome move...
i just wish we didn’t give up our first rounder because….
1.) Roy is in a contract year and could leave next year…
2.) he had no chance in HELL of resigning with the Lion’s
3.) we basically had trade leverage because the Lion’s aren’t going to make the playoffs so getting anything for Roy would have been better for nothing
I overall love that we got Roy… just wish we didn’t give up our first rounder cuz this is a deep draft this year with OL and LB which would have helped us as well
G'd up from the feet up
not exactly
1) Roy will re-negotiate he has wanted to be a Cowboy his whole life
2) they could have franchised him
by WestTxHornFan on Oct 14, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
from Mosley ....
The Dallas Cowboys are close to a deal to acquire wide receiver Roy Williams from the Detroit Lions, a source told ESPN.com Tuesday. The trade would involve multiple draft picks but would not involve the Cowboys’ first-round pick.
Matt Mosely stating..
The Cowboys wanted to negotiate a contract before finalizing the trade.
Well, duh.
by Brandon Worley on Oct 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
More I think about it
the more I like this trade, first rounder would be a late pick anyways and thanks to Cleveland we’ll still have a third rounder.
Our defense still is a question mark and man are we good on paper, no more excuses Garrett!
Can Roy play Corner?
They better get the pass rush moving or this is a move for next year because right now they cannot cover good receivers.
Hopefully Roy doesn’t bring the attitude and pouting that he was displaying in Detroit. If he leaves that behind, Great move for Dallas.
Hope this opens up some routes for Owens and moves the double coverage away from him once in a while
Assuming he's willing to take the #2 receiver role
He should have some huge games against the lesser CBs.
It will be interesting to see if teams will still constantly double team T.O.
Roy will probably see a lot of single coverage at least for the 1st couple games.
i wonder who the person really driving this push for a number 2
Did Garrett feel like Crayton wanted the answer or is this just Jerry’s infatuation?
Defenses will stop it the same way they did before Romo and Felix were hurt — bull rush through our mediocre o-line and force Romo into bad throws/sacks.
Yeah I was assuming our o-line would start playing better.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that's why garrett needs to start
having the O run drills for quick slants and other plays to offset pass pressure…
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This is going to be an interesting huddle for a while:
Brad: “Z-cross, wing left, 43-speed on two”
Roy: “What’s my route?”
T.O.: " You have a 9 yard comeback"
Brad: “You sure? Cause I thought he has a 6 yard slant.”
Both T.O. and Roy: “Who cares! Just throw it to me!!!”
lol....that's how it's gonna be...
This puts every egg in Garrett’s basket…EVEN WITH BRAD JOHNSON at QB, I see this team putting up big numbers on offense……..There has never been better offensive unit, personel- wise, in the history of this team, and if we can’t roll over teams with this line up….It will never happen….Thank you Jerry Jones for the early Christmas present….Romo, Felix, and Kosier need to get back soon…
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- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
I
love it …. going to the Eagles blog and watching all the hate ….. “Roy sucks, he’s never done anything” ….
like Reggie Brown is gold.
Trade make sense for so many reason..
Short Term, Long Term..
Jerry gets it..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
This allows us to move Crayton or Austin as the 3rd.
IMO, I would’ve traded Crayton as part of the deal instead of giving up a additional draft pick
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
I agree
Roy has great tools, I think it is time to elevate Miles Austin to 3rd Wr.. Roy Williams can play the possesion spot. You can’t just double TO ANYMORE..
Patrick Crayton will go back to returning punts.. SIGH!!
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Patrick "FC" Crayton - Last Year's NFL Leader in Fair Catches.
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ESPN just changed their story
Werder was so wrong.
Check out Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog
I don't believe half of what Werder says
Adam Schefter has much better sources.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Schefter > Werder
NFLN > BSPN
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I'm still really worried about the secondary against Giants and Skins
That could get ugly. Hopefully Jenkins and Scandrick really pick some confidence in the next 2 games.
Well I guess Newman may make it back for the Skins game.
Hes supposedly only out 4 weeks.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
wait till he's at full strength
I definitely do not want to see Newman rushed again and get reinjured. We need him to be at full strength at the end of the season.
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I'm afraid the Cowboys overpaid...
…it seems like they were the only ones left in the trade market for Roy Williams. That’s a lot of quality picks.
Still, no doubt that this vastly improves the team. I care less about the results of the next two weeks than I do the team coming together and improving their play (and developing the rookies). We should be able to at least go 1-2, make it to the bye, then come out of the ready to roll with little margin for error.
Look at it this way...
We basically gave up a 1 and a 3 for a proven commodity who is only 26. Very few 1st round picks are a sure thing, but with Roy Williams (the good one) we pretty much know what we’re getting, which is performance worthy of a 1st round pick.
It stings a little, but I have no problem tossing in the 3rd rounder to sweeten the pot a little.
Think of it this way… would you rather have Roy Williams (the good one) or roll the dice this winter picking a 22 year old WR at #25-32? I’ll take Roy Williams 100 times out of 100.
I agree with kendrick....There is not a WR in college right now that's better than Roy Williams, that can be found for the 25th pick or later....
Although I don’t think others teams were ready to give up as much as we did (1st, 3rd,6th)…..We had the luxury of several extra picks. I would’ve worked a 2nd, 3rd, 5th for Roy….but it’s Jerry’s desire to make this team as great as possible, i’ll let him slide with a slight overpayment…They MUST sign him to a long term extention, or i’ll consider this trade a failure…We still have many many picked to work on depth next season……especially if we are granted an extra 3rd rounder to compensate for the lose of Julius Jones….I have always felt that Roy Williams is a bit injury prone, and maybe not the fleetest of foot, but you’ll be hard pressed to name 10 WR in this league that are physically better overall than him….great size, great strength, great body control, good hands, and a desire to play with a SB contender…..You can’t ask for better than that……We have finally found our #2….so long to double teaming TO and Witten……If Garrett can’t work magic with this talent, then he’s more over hyped and over rated than I thought he was….
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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If Roy doesn't sign an extension
… then this trade is a disaster of epic proportions. Light years worse than giving up 2 1st rounders for Joey Galloway.
Because of that I’ve gotta think that there’s a “gentleman’s agreement” between Jerry and Roy’s agent to hammer out a new contract.
And I definitely agree that the rest of the season is a litmus test for Jason Garrett — if the offense can’t gel with this talent, he needs to accept a job elsewhere.
Are we really worried?
When has Jerry not got a deal done?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
it will happen....i'm pretty sure they're working a deal now as we speak....
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Oh, not worried
Just trying to express that there is a back up plan if a deal doesn’t get done. I don’t think it will happen anytime soon unless RW wants to take a hometown discount, because it’s hard to know what he’s worth right now.
However, I legitimately don’t know if we would have the cap liquidity, if you will, to actually tag RW. He’s not going to be paid like a top 5 WR (I can only hope), so it would result in mo money on the cap for 09.
you're forgetting that we still have:
(this is off the top of my head) a 2, a 3, 2 4’s, a 5, a nd a 7. With whats been done recently in the draft, I trust the Cowboys to turn those into solid picks
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TJ is too similar to TO
Roy Williams gives them the speed threat opposite TO that TO has needed this season (but not last).
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 14, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough to compare
A guy who had Carson Palmer throwing too him, to a guy who had Jon Kitna throwing to him..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Ed Werder must be the worst reporter in sports
I can’t even count how many times he’s been wrong this year.
As I said before
Adding Roy Williams will help the running game by taking an extra guy out of the box and one of the 3 of TO, RW or Witten will get single coverage. This should also help the defense;they shouldn’t be out on the field for long because the Offense could potentially double up most teams in time of possession.
When Romo and Felix and Koiser are healthy
Seriously, how do you stop this offense? Especially once Roy gets comfortable with the offense.
No really, HOW do you stop them?
As I mentioned in another reply,
Defenses will stop it the same way they did before Romo and Felix were hurt — bull rush through our mediocre o-line and force Romo into bad throws/sacks.
I have very little confidence in our o-line right now. Romo has been running for his life since the Green Bay game (the last time he had any protection).
They were also great for the first 3 games
There’s something wrong, and I don’t think it’s just Kosier being out….though the last time he played was the GB game. Either Flo is hurting or teams seem to have discovered he can’t block the wide speed rush. Or something.
It can be corrected, but I agree it’s alarming.
you can only hope to contain them...Brad can lead this team to 24 points a game...just imagine when Romo gets his act together...
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
How do you stop them?
I guess you could invite them on a night on the town with Pacman!
Whweeeeww!!!
Best pick up since TO……..If we can somehow whether the storm until after the Bye week we should be in good shape,,,,,what a great trade,,,,,,,,!!!!
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Does he play this weekend?
Too soon to learn the system or does he come in and help us with StL?
by Cowboy Faithful on Oct 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions
He certainly won't know the whole playbook
But he’ll know enough to draw coverage away from TO, Witten, and Austin/Crayton. There have to be some gos, posts, and flags in the Cowboys playbook. :)
No-gos
As long as the gos aren’t more than about 20 yards downfield — I don’t think Johnson can get it much farther anymore.
I’m expecting a lot more dinking and dunking with Johnson at the helm, not only because he can’t throw it very far, but because defenses are going to blitz the crap out of him, so he’ll need to get rid of it quickly.
He will play this week....and hopefully have a breakout 100+ yard day...
It’s only the Rams…lol
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- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Tell that to da Skins...
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You can thank Pac-Man
He made the trade possible..
This is interesting … Had Adam Jones not been suspended minutes earlier then the Cowboys would not have had the 6th round pick that they included in the Roy Williams deal. That pick had been part of the Jones trade but was contingent and cancelled as a result of Adam Jones 2nd suspension.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
-1000
This is one time Terry will be forced to eat his words..
With Romo throwing him the ball watch out sir..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Thats a big price tag
but if he can be what he was in 2006, it’s worth it.
I just hope its not too late.
We gotta get two of the next 3 somehow. Got to.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 14, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
We will see!!
NO way to know if you paid too much until we see what Roy does..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
All of the players signed recently have backloaded contracts...
Romo took a backloaded contract, same is true with Newman, TO & Barber because the salary cap is going away in 2 years. I’m sure they are restructuring Roy to the same type of deal as these players will earn the majority of the money involved in their contracts after the players union has their way and does away with the salary cap.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 14, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
canty or tank are bye bye
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Time to step it up!!
With their play this year they are both expendable. Spears is having a better season then Canty..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
I can't believe I'm saying it, but I agree.
Gotta earn that chedda. Nobody on the DL other than Ratliff is doing so right now.
You put a dominate
DL next to Rat watch out.. Can we experminet with Tank out there with Rat?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
no....the cap will not increase next season....that was part of deal...no salary cap after 2010...
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Um yes, the salary cap will increase by 7 million next year
6% increase. Let’s see if I can actually get a link to work…
What a crazy week.
And it’s only Tuesday.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions
I guess it's a sign of the times............
because my first thought, and I do mean FIRST thought when I heard this was “I wonder how T.O. is going to take this?” ANyone heard any rumours along that regard?
well
If you were a porch and you were stuck behind 2 old granny’s on a 2 lane road every single morning on your way to work with little or no way of passing them wouldn’t you welcome seeing one of them disappear? I’d say as long as TO isn’t forgotten, which I doubt is even possible, he’ll welcome this.
I'm curious, too.
He should be happy, but who knows with T.O.
Does the right uppercut get jealous when you add a left hook?
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
pumped, less double teams..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Jeery Jones has reported that TO is "estatic" about RW arrival....if that's true or not...we'll see....
but it will free up double coverage for sure…cuz Roy Williams might be even better than TO against press coverage, and will get wide open in this offense…wide open….starting this week in St. Louis.
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Roy Williams extension signed
gets better by the minute…
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linky
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – After acquiring WR Roy Williams from the Lions for three NFL draft picks, the Dallas Cowboys signed him through the 2013 season, owner Jerry Jones confirmed from the owners meetings.
"This year plus an additional five," Jones said of the contract extension for Williams
John Clayton says it’s 8MM-9MM per…
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ok....NOW I have a woody....lmao.....this offense for the next 3+ years at least...I'm lovin' this...
This OFFICIALLY makes this a great deal…..I can’t speak for myself, but MOSTLY ALL BTB bloggers were crying for Dallas to trade for RW, and were more than willing to give up a 1st and a 3rd to get him before this years draft….NOW we just got him for that price…and I must say..I’m all aboard on this trade…Dallas has NEVER had a better set of WR in their history….now do something with them already…..ALL eyes have to be on Jason Garrett right now…..If this offense fails…He is solely to blame…
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
i thought it would never happen..
The GM for Lions is a genius.. Time to clean that team up.
This is positive for two reasons..
1. We get Roy
2. Philly doesn’t get Roy..
Worth extra picks to play keep away..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Bombs away
Pearson and Hill were pretty good together, as were Owens and Glenn, but this combo may be tough to top.
yeah...it's a tough call, seeing Drew is my all time favorite..but talent wise T Owens is better than Drew and Roy Dub has to be considered better than T Hill
T Glenn was great here for one season together, but RW is 26 and has never had a QB to throw him the ball, nor a WR to draw attention away from him either…….physically RW is better than Glenn…..so i say it’s for sure the best in our teams history, and by the time it’s done, one of the best combo’s of all time…we’ll see soon…
You gotta love knowing that on every play, ONE of these guys is going to be single covered…..woooo hoooo…now if the o line can get back to blocking…it should be lights out to all defenses trying to stick with our O.
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
The waiting game
It’s the ultimate tease that Williams finally gets to Dallas and he still doesn’t have a quarterback to get him the ball! It’s like being a kid and waiting for Christmas to come — it seems to take forever.
On the upside, I live in Redskins country and watched a very average Todd Collins use his intelligence to dink and dunk the Redskins into the playoffs last year, so if he can do it, Brad can too.
+1
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Yeah, I just heard that
And a 5 year deal too. SWEET!!!! And apparently T.O. is all for it. In JJ’s words he was “giddy”.
Awesome.
I can understand why he’s giddy. Just like playing with him extended Rice’s career, this should do the same for him in a couple years when he slows down some. He can transition to being the 2 while Williams becomes the 1. That TD record may be in sight for him, after all.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we got another 3rd in last year's draft and
we get a 5th for Pacman’s suspension.
That #38 sure should wrap up!
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 14, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Me so happy. Me want to cry.
We have a #1 WR for the other side of TO, and will have a #1 WR when TO decides to hang it up. Great trade. Finally some positive.
That #38 sure should wrap up!
+1
this will ease the transition when T.O. retires. I hope we can keep them both for the extent of T.O.’s career though.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 14, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with what someone said above
This could help prolong T.O.‘s career. That is, if he’d be willing to take a bit of a pay cut and play second fiddle to Roy in a few years.
TO has, and will continue to be better than RW for as long as he wants to play...
a paycut and a backseat or second fiddle to RW??..I don’t think so guy….IF< after his current 3 year deal is up, he wants to continue, then yes, i can see him maybe playing for less….but if TO gets a few rings over the next three years..I can see him retiring to South Beach….maybe replace MeShaun on the set of ESPN…..lol
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
That's what i meant, after this contract
T.O. is 34, his skills will decline in the next 3-4 years.
He could play till he was 40, but not at this level.
I'm still in shock.
What a wild past couple of days. This should really help everyone, Witten, T.O., Barber, and obviously Romo. The defense is another story, though. Get ready for every game to be like the Philly game.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
Until he puts up 1,000 yards, 10 TD, and plays 16 games, I wouldn't consider him a #1...
but he’s for sure in the top 5 #2 receivers in the league for sure…..
2 top WR’s
2 top RB’s
1 top TE
to go with a top O lIne, and eventually a top QB, when Romo returns………Garrett best show something over the next ten games….and of course the playoffs…or he better get out his short resume for another job elsewhere…..
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Man
It’s got be like going from Ground Chuck to Filet, going from Kitna to Romo..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
HA-HA-HA! Good one, W!!!
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Where you at Terry..
When your right your right.. I hate to say it but I was.
Looks like someone was on point when I said Jerry was going to go out and get a legite #2 Wr this year or in the off season. Jerry said tonight they wanted a threat opposite TO since the draft. They knew all along Crayton was not the answer….c’mon..He is a #3 Wr at best and they knew it, the defenses knew it, the reason TO was doubled. Crayton has had one good game in 5 weeks… They got away with it as long as they could, but we needed this trade……
Crayton moves back to the #3 spot where he belongs. If were me, I would demote him to the #4 and give the #3 spot to Austin.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
I have to agree there..
I think Miles Austin is too explosive to have on the field for a limited time..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Question who is the odd man out or do we carry 6 next season?
TO
Roy
Crayton
Austin
Sam Hurd
Isiah Stanback
Hurd is FA right?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Hurd and Austin but Austin is RFA
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=WR&y=2009
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
They would resign Austin over Hurd if it came down to the two
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Crayton is our punt returner.
He’s usually in there when they have to make sure Pac doesn’t run backwards or drop the ball, and he’ll probably be the full time guy now, especially with not being a starting WR.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
All Time Dallas Cowboys Leader In Fair Catches: Patrick "FC" Crayton
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i pray they dont go back to Crayton as the PR.....Felix, Stanback, Jenkins, Scandrick anybody but Crayton
I believe so.
It makes sense to let him go either way. Austin is going to be great, Crayton and Hurd are the same guy and Crayton has a few years left on his deal, I think. I don’t know what Hurd brings to the table that you don’t already have in Crayton, and vice-versa. No one wants to give up on Stanback, even if he stays the 6th receiver his entire career.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Crayton has 1 more after this year
I think he was given a 2 year extension last year.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
you have to keep crayton
He returns punts, steady hands, and he stays healthy..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
He may have one more season
I would’nt pay 2 and 2.5 for him after that…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
2 and 2.5 aren't what they used to be in the NFL
As the cap keeps going up and up.
But I see your point. I just think Jerry will keep him.
Hurd is gone after this season....FA....count on it..
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
+1 on Hurd
But both could be out. Hurd is younger, a little faster and great hands like Crayton.
TO
Williams
Austin
Hurd
Then a decision will be made on whether to keep Crayton or Stanback. If they don’t resign Hurd then both guys probably make it.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
I think Hurd is out
At what point do you use Hurd? We could draft a WR in the 4th round who can do what Hurd does and maybe return kicks..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
speed isnt a big part of his game and his body hasnt taken as many big hits as the normal 30 yr old atleast
hopefully he wont break down soon
Barber is about to explode
No more stacked boxes..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Over a Week Ago, I Pleaded For This...
In a FanPost entitled, MAKE THE DAMNED TRADE!, I emplored the Dallas brass to go and get this deal done.
I am sad to see us part with a 1st round pick, but if we can get the new Roy Williams signed to an extension (which shouldn’t be that hard since his agent is the same one used by Tony Romo, Terrence Newman and the ‘other’ Roy Williams), then I will be pleased. After all, the guy is only 26.
While everyone is jumping up and down, I noticed that we have a new punter, a QB who is 57 years old with a 74 year old right arm, an o-line that has been imitating a swiss cheese and, this just in…our CB’s (now Pac-free) haven’t proven they can cover Shaun Rogers, much less Torry Holt, Joey Galloway or Plaxico Burress.
So, not to be a downer, but we have a game this coming Sunday against a team with some momentum, a pretty good defensive coach and we’ll be starting a host of new players on offense, defense and specials and it’s doubtful anyone named Roy Williams will have an impact on the outcome.
There is still a lot to be done by this coaching staff if we want make a run in 2008 and playing the Rams would be a good time for both players and coaches to step up.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
can't blow my high
I am still pumped..
GO COWBOYS..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
LOL.....5Blings....they must have been listening to you ?...
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
They have to go to SOMEONE for personnel help
Why not to me?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Torry Holt and Joey Galloway have been covering themselves..
Plax struggled vs the Cleveland secondary..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
QUESTION
This has been a huge week for our Cowboys-Where is DEKE???
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Deke has taken a hiatis....as i was going to as well...till todays transpirings brought me back..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Nice, you can already order a Roy Williams' Cowboy jersey on the Cowboys website.
Jerry doesn’t waste anytime when it comes to a money making opportunity.
What number did they give him?
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Yeah, it comes in #38 -- LOL!
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So how many big name wideouts can we collect?
If we don’t win the Super Bowl this year will Mr. Ocho Cinco be a Cowboy as well?
I would have prefered Chad Johnson...to be honest...but i'll take RW ...we needed a legit #2 ....now we got one...
skies the limit with these weapons…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
I'll take Roy we have enough distractions..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
I guess Jerry just wanted Roy over Chad.
I can’t imagine Cincy would have turned down that package for Chad although they did supposedly turn down a 1st and 3rd which could have turned into a 1st from the Skins.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take Roy
Just as talented and 4 years younger without the distractions……
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Jerry is the man.......I can't believe they already have the jerseys....that's friggin crazy....
SB or no SB…Jerry is by far Executive of the Year….and all that bash him need to pull their heads outta the sand….The guy does what you need to do to win championships….I wouldn’t want any other owner/gm in this league to run this team…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Welcome to Dallas Roy!
Its about time We can hear some good news about the Cowboys again. Hopefully This set back gets this team in gear. In another 4 weeks we have the majority of our guys back, and now with Williams I feel even more sorry for any team that has to play us in the post season. Major props to Jerry Jones for doing what ever it takes to get this deal done and not letting him be traded to the Eagles.
Jason Garrett
Is on a coffee and Red bull diet this week..
I am excited to see what he has planned..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
I wouldn't be too excited this week
By the time the Redskins game rolls around (3 games and the bye week) Roy should be alot more comfortable with the offense, and Garrett will have all his weapons back.
It’s going to be scary.

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