Cowboys and Roy Williams have deal in place for five-year extension
by Dave Halprin on Oct 14, 2008 7:19 PM CDT
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Great news. The Cowboys already have the parameters in place for a five-year extension for new WR Roy Williams.
Cowboys VP Stephen Jones told reporters at Valley Ranch today that the parameters are in place for a five-year extension for WR Roy Williams, who is in the final season of his deal.
"We don't have the details yet," Jones said. "We've got the parameters set. And we should have something done, hopefully for sure by tomorrow."
Nice. That was my biggest concern. I thought the Cowboys overpaid maybe a little for Roy, but not by much. But if they didn't get a new deal worked out, then it was going to be a big issue. No worries on that front now, we should always trust the Jones' on the issue of getting contracts done.
And yes, I'm very excited to see what RW2 (I guess the original Roy is RW1) can do beside T.O. That is one potent passing attack if you include Jason Witten and move Patrick Crayton to the slot, plus you still have an improving Miles Austin in the mix. Now the question is can the offensive line protect Brad Johnson long enough to make those weapons work.
I'll tell you this much, I'm excited to see what will happen on Sunday. By all indications RW2 will be at practice on Wednesday and should play a limited role on Sunday.
There's more on RW2 here.
And Nick Eatman has a nice article here. Jerry says he's coveted Roy for years.
"We've been trying to trade for Roy Williams for two years," Jones said. "Two straight drafts, I tried to make a trade with Detroit and couldn't get it done. At the league owners meetings (last year), I tried to talk to Detroit about trading for him. He's certainly someone we've pursued the last few years."
And you think Roy is excited?
"I'm more happy to be a Dallas Cowboy than when I got my first bike," Williams said. "To go from 0-5 to 4-2, you can't get any better than that."
For anybody thinking this might be a problem with T.O., at least this early in the transaction, can put that to rest.
Not only did Jerry Jones say that Terrell Owens was "ecstatic" to find out the news, but apparently T.O. was the first to call Roy Williams and congratulate him on the trade.
And Roy seems to know the deal.
"He's the No. 1 guy. I'll be the No. 2 or No. 3 and wherever I fit in. Defenses won't know what to do."
On the other hand, we got the bad news of Pacman Jones' suspension today. I will not argue that Roger Goodell was too harsh. Everybody knew the deal going in and Pacman just blew it. Case closed for me. Whatever he got from Goodell is fine with me. Now the question is will Jerry keep him around for the minimum four-game suspension or will he go ahead and cut ties? Personally, I wouldn't mind a bit if he cut him even though we desperately need him in a very thin secondary.
Anthony Henry and Mike Jenkins will now be the starters on the outside - I assume - and Oralndo Scandrick will come in on the nickel. What happens in the dime? My guess is Alan Ball is about to get some real reps.
Here's an article about Pacman - and RW2 - and here's another about Pacman.
By the way, Jerry Jones was smart to not suspend Pacman himself. Because the NFL has now suspended Pacman, we get a fifth round pick back from the Titans.
And for those wondering just where our 2009 draft stands, the DMN blog has the details.
ROUND ONE (0)
To Detroit for Roy Williams
ROUND TWO (1)
Dallas
ROUND THREE (1)
To Detroit for Roy Williams
Cleveland (Acquired in 2008 Draft Day trade: for Detroit 2008 R4 pick)
ROUND FOUR (2)
Dallas
Detroit (Acquired in 2008 Draft Day trade: for Dallas 2008 R3 pick)
ROUND 5 (2)
Dallas
Tennessee (As a result of Adam Jones 2nd suspension)
ROUND 6 (1)
To Detroit for Roy Williams (Tennessee contingency canceled as a result of Adam Jones 2nd suspension)
Miami (Acquired in 2008 Ferguson Trade)
ROUND 7 (2)
Dallas
Detroit (Acquired in Roy Williams trade)
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The contract thing didn't scare me one bit
Jerry is fanatical about his #1 picks after he admittedly blew the Galloway situation.
He wouldn’t have traded one without having the framework of a deal in place.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Incredible
I got news while I was sitting in my Sociology class today, then immediately hit up BTB on my iPhone. For the rest of the class, I couldn’t sit still and had the sudden urge to rip off all my clothes (not sure why) and scream “Roy Williams!”
Anyway. Dope player. Dope deal. And dope nickname Brandon. I love RW2.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, Grizz wrote it not Brandon.
Love you both.
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by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
Roger Goodell just suspended me for the use of the word “dope”. It was against my probation.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA!!!
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by silverblue5 on Oct 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great write up Grizz
I agree on all points..
2nd RD, High 3rd, and two 4th’s.. We can still do damage.
DT, CB, ILB, and OL dialed, no particular order..
Come on JJ finish strong..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont like...
…that we don’t have a round one pick this year, and it does concern me a bit.
However we all know that if Jerry Jones wants a player, he will trade up and get them.
I do think we gave up a little too much to get RW2, considering no one else was really interested.
Overall, I am just anxious to see how the next few games are going to play out. So much has occurred since Sunday. I just hope we can survive a few games before most of our people are healthy again, and RW2 learns more and more of our playbook.
by ender0887 on Oct 14, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly was interested.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interested but at best they would’ve given up a 2nd round pick. Philly would NEVER give up a horde of draft picks like that. they never have under the reid era.
by Joe_D on Oct 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta take risks in the NFL sometimes
Guess that’s why they have zero Lombardi’s
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or it's why dallas hasn't one a playoff game in 12 years
by Joe_D on Oct 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with no playoff wins
We still have the same number of Super Bowls as the Eagles in that time. What can they claim from 1960-1996?
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what can you claim since 2000
while the history is appludable. no really good job troy and herschal and emmitt, but really cowboy fan, give it up. its the past. until u can tie romo and terrell to household names like troy and emmitt, quit bringin up the past. in the current, the eagles have dominated the series and the postseason. while i enjoy a good debate from rivals, dont bring BS to the table.
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see you guys dominate in week 2
And if any past events matter right now, that’s the only one.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What can you claim since 2000?
That for 1 season you were the first loser?
Lombardi or go home. It’s all that matters.
All you got for those seasons was no championship and a worse draft pick than if you sucked.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe D......beat it ...you jealous punk......Philly blew it not getting RW or Gonzales....they don't stand a chance....last in the east...
as Shaq would say “Tell me how the Boyz azz taste”
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Oct 15, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly has two 1st rounders next year....and you can be damn sure they were gonna give up one of them to get RW...
It was our addition of the 3rd rrounder that sealed the deal…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Oct 15, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys forget we lost Reeves and JuJo
I think we will prolly get a 4th or 3rd compensatory pick for JuJo
by quincyyyyy on Oct 14, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I remember correctly
But given his contract, it seemed like it would be lower than that. I believe the picks awarded last year in the 3rd-4th round range were for guys that left to get $7m/year+ contracts (like Davis). Of course, the formula isn’t public, so I suppose it’s anyone’s guess.
I wouldn’t expect more than a 6th round pick for either, though the better JuJo does, the better it could potentially be.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed but JuJo was a starter here and is a starter in Seattle
That also factors in, though I don’t know to what extent.
by quincyyyyy on Oct 14, 2008 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing to remember with our draft picks
How many will actually make the team? Honestly not too many holes to fill imo.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly mhuff.....which is why nobody should be dissing this trade....4-5 out of our potential 12 picks stand a chance of even making the team...
and we just happened to aquire one of our picks 6 months early in Roy Williams…so far i give the ’09 draft an A grade
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Oct 15, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to Shootout City
We gained a receiver and lost yet another corner.
It’s always exciting in Dallas.
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by Nelson... on Oct 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nelson
was your hair appt worth missing the game for lol?
Just joking. I almost died watching it and didn’t get any dreads out of it.
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by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not often that I say I'm glad I missed a Cowboys game
but…..yeah
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by Nelson... on Oct 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is because...
Jerry was smart with last year’s draft…we still have a generally good draft situation for ’09. Great move.
by archangel on Oct 14, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I look
at the 1st round pick as a probably a low 2nd round pick, considering where they might finish.
by Troy on Oct 14, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Zone offense =
2 TE, 2WR
T.O. – 6’3"
RW2- 6’3"
Witten – 6’5"
Tellus – 6’7"
Teams have to respect the fade, plus MB3 and his Tasmanian Devil running style inside the 5. Give it to Jerry, I’m excited.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Garrett has to be salivating
He better come up with some good stuff!
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look at the 1st round pick as a solid WR, possible superstar
In Roy Williams. You draft one, you don’t know if you’re getting Randy Moss or Kevin Dyson.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOLOLOL @ TO being ecstatic. He’s going to explode when the D gives up 4 tds through the air. Get your popcorn ready.
by Joe_D on Oct 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How dare you.
Bite your tongue lol
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by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
T.O
this could be good for TO. I’m not sure how good RW is but if he can take some pressure of TO then it should be easier for him to make some grabs. He’s double covered almost every play.
by carsondude on Oct 14, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
on the field yes or maybe
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but off the field?
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a long time Eagles Fan
and wantin to nab williams for my team, i have got to say, JJ gave up WAY to much for RW. At BGN, the most we would talk bout is a 2nd and maybe a conditional 4th. Y need another stud wr. you guys have argueably the best TE in the game, TO (as much as i hate to say it), and Crayton isnt a recevier you can sleep on. Not to mention Barbers catch and run skills. You guys might want to start worryin on how this will clash with TO. JJ just got a little…gunhappy? maybe…with austin goin down. Stupid move by JJ. You needed help in the secondary, not in an already potent offense, JJ is just beatin a dead dog.
also, on second though. how will you distingiush Roy from Roy?
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
RW2
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda like the Star Wars dude
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Oct 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Austin isn't hurt, its Hurd your thinking of.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuse me...
misread that part
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe we can get a Sheppard in the offseason if the Eagles dare deal with the Cowboys.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with sheldon and asante
i wouldnt mind that deal…how bout for witten
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, no way in hell that happens.
Im surprised the Eagles didn’t make a strong push for Tony Gonzales.
by houseofprime on Oct 14, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
check again
we did, all of a sudden, the owner for the chiefs fell in love with “legends”
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
same as
we made a push for Randy…but he felt he had a better chance at NE. look at him now.
Man, the things he and #5 would have done
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure glad he did pick NE
That could have been a deadly duo..
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
disagree on giving too much
our first will be a 20-31 pick. Who are we going to find that could make a immediate impact? We don’t have a boat load of holes so we can gamble with the picks. We also have an extra 4th round pick and got our 5th rounder back. It’s a great deal for a 26 yr. old stud Wr in his prime.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is arguable
yes, u dont have much holes…but, qb depth, secondary, maybe some new D players. ur offense is potent, but there is no denyin the skill avaliable in the first. Felix for yall, DeSean for us. as for playmakers round 20-31. 2007 draft, Indy got Gonzalez, Chicago got Oslen, Pats got Meriweather, should i go on?
"I'm embaressed of Andy Ried" - #5
by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indy had a need at WR, Chicago had a need at TE, Pats had a need at FS
Where is our need? It was at WR, and we just filled it.
Our defense has young players coming up ready to fill in, at all positions except maybe DT.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yall never had a need for WR
the double teams on TO gave Crayton and Austin chances to step up and they stepped up big. your biggest need is at D. Look what the cards did to yall
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree that the biggest need is on D
However, I gotta disagree with your statement about Crayton and Austin stepping up big. Austin has made several big plays and Crayton 1 (this past week..not counting the one where the ball fell into his hands from the heavens). Still, lack of a #2 WR was supposed to be this team’s biggest offensive weakness, and teams other than Philly have done a good job limiting TO lately. Suddenly the blueprint for stopping/slowing the Boys is gone.
And while a CB would have been nice, we have young talent there that needs to develop, and nobody was available.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
young talent
that you have will not be replacin newman and pacman this year, next year yes, but for your run to the SB, yall need a CB bigtime. and nice sucker punch with that philly comment
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it seems they will be replacing Newman and Pacman this week....
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...
enlighten me
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see
Newman is out for a month…Pacman may never play again
Jenkins is starting, and Scandrick will be the slot guy.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no
i get that. but u said they would be replacin em this week…with who?
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said the young guys won't be replacing Newman and Pacman this year
And I’m pointing out that they are this week. The young guys will be stepping up to the plate this week with Newman hurt and Pacman out, maybe for good.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are saying they will not replace them in terms of ability
Hard to argue there, but they will get closer and closer the more they play. Look at Aaron Ross with the Giants last year. Obviously this isn’t an ideal situation, but it’s what happens when your top 2 CBs go poof.
As you should know as an Eagles fan (and as we know), having 3 talented CBs doesn’t always mean you can stop the pass. Frankly, I think the rookies can do okay for a couple of weeks.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is an ideal situation for Jenkins and Scandrick
They will gain valuable experience. We are FOUR deep at corner right now. Granted, 2 are rookies…but I have faith in them. Nothing like I had for Reeves and Jones last year.
And if Pacman is allowed to come back? We are FIVE deep at corner….
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They stepped up big?
Don’t get me wrong I like Crayton and Austin. As #3 and #4 WR.
I’d hardly say they’ve stepped up big. Austin had 1 game where he did anything. And Crayton is a reliable guy on 3rd down, but stepping up big is an overstatement.
We need someone to take the pressure off of T.O.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is Crayton is not a threat
He is a #3 Wr the reason TO has been doubled alot more. Austin should be the #3, but probably won’t.
Our problem wasn’t the D in the Cards game. It was given up two special teams TD’s, a missed FG and poor OL play. Add to that the Wr’s not getting open.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly it came down to 1 play that changed the game
3rd and 17
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We handled them pretty well
especially in the first half. The second half was a disaster and alot of it was self inflicted.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I think RW2 is better than all of those guys.
BUT, you’re right, objectively speaking, Dallas overpaid. Sometimes it’s subjectively worth it. This team needed some good news, and got a great player for a long time to boot.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
and true, yall did need some good news. but in the long run, maybe even in this season. i think this will hurt yall more then help. and when it happens, rememeber the little kid from the eagles that predicted it comin
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that would only happen
if there was a major ego clash at WR. Which, admittedly, is possible. Hopefully good things will happen while the honeymoon is going on.
I don’t doubt that TO is happy, though. No more constant double teams.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but less passes to him
maybe TO is doin crunchs in his driveway? lol, not but TO seems more worried about passes to him then double coverage
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO doesn't care as long as we win
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only complains when we lose
But people only focus on the complaining part.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i said that when he was with philly to… truthfully guys, he will start if he doesnt get more passes
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recognize you think you know what you are talking about
But the only time TO complained this year, he got targeted more times than any WR in the NFL. TO complains when TO isn’t making plays. Having RW2 will free up TO to make more plays.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which also coincided with our first loss
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
for some reason I thought it was the GB game where he was bitching. You’re right.
by grapejoos on Oct 14, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas did overpay
but King Jerry planned smartly by stocking up on picks for the ’09 draft.
2nd, 3rd, two 4ths, two 5ths, a 6th and two 7ths — even after giving up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th for RW2.
The new #11 is the equivalent of our first round pick in ‘09, but the difference is that he’ll make an impact faster than any other rookie WR that would’ve been drafted — if he can stay healthy (knock on wood).
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by silverblue5 on Oct 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 exactly
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did Desean go? third round right?
So we don’t need to spend a first round pick on one, if we needed one.
We still have a 2nd round pick to draft a CB. There is no reason to since we drafted Jenkins in the first last year and Scandrick in the fifth who has 2nd round talent.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right, 2nd round pick
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at how much T.O. has gotten open this year
And then talk to me again about the other weapons.
Witten is our only other legit threat in the Passing game. Crayton isn’t a receiver you can sleep on, but not one you can count on either.
RW2 will at least take some double teams off T.O.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhhh...
barber out of the backfield..look at his run against the cowboys….look, im not sayin that the trade for “RW2” was bad, im just sayin JJ offered way to much
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barber is a stud
But to say he’s a big part of the passing game is just wrong.
He’s a checkdown when everyone else is covered. RW2 will get separation more than Austin/Crayton, which will free up Witten and Owens even more.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RW1, #38 is petitioning to be called He Burn Me
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!
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by silverblue5 on Oct 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jerry should cut Pac
If you look at my history on this blog, I have been 100% pro-pac since day 1 because I just thought there was no way in hell he could be so stupid to jepordize his NFL future but here we are. We now have to suffer growing pains with Jenkins and Scandrick since Pac is beyond stupid so broom his azz and stop making all his teammates and coaches wonder if/when he will screw up again.
JJ went over and above the protocol for helping a guy find a safe haven and the little moron threw it in his face. Cut him.
by Billito on Oct 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerry won't cut Pacman unless the commisioner
suspends him the rest of the season.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Pac will be back.
He’ll probably get to come back for the Thanksgiving game. That’s 5 games and 6 weeks. Jerry will have him in church every Sunday and Wednesday, and Bible Study and AA on the other nights.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Unless the Commish bans him for life, he will be back with us.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that.
Not for this offense. I think he had to send a clear message to Pacman about his decision making, but Pacman really didn’t do anything wrong. If this had been at a family dinner instead of a hotel party, Goodell probably wouldn’t have done anything.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
If he wanted to ban him permanently, he would have today.
Now it’s all up to Adam.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just pisses me off
Obviously this incident was not “nothing” and although it doesn’t seem like a big deal, when you have just come off a 1 year suspension, you shouldn’t be doing anything. The fact that this happened at a hotel party with drinking involved is a huge deal because Goodell is concerned about the image of the league. The headlines read “Pac man Jones involved in fight at rapper’s party” and blue collar fans across the country say “see how athletes are” when thats not the case at all.
I am so pissed at Pac man and just don’t want to depend on him anymore.
by Billito on Oct 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goddell is concerned with the image of the league part of the time
The rest of the time he’s doing things like destroying evidence to cover up for the Pats.
And let’s see if anything happens to Larry Johnson for his THIRD battery charge.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he comes back it will be the game after the bye week
so he may only be out 3 games….
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is really lucky for you guys
instead of being 1-3 without romo, yall will be 1-2. hopefully it gets infected.
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he is not Mcnabb
the guy hasn’t completed a full season in 4 years…lol
You know it’s only a matter of time before his pinky toe hurts and he is out…
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that
was the gayest thing i have heard. atleast mcnabb wins us post season games. yeah, the guy has slumped, and im not proud of it. the guy is back and u have to admit it
im not dissin romo for gettin hurt, its part of the game. im just bein realistic that yall might win 1 of 3 games without romo.
and i really do hope it gets infected
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Romo's 2nd full season as a starter
how many years has Mcchub played??
how many Superbowls has he won?
Next…….
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
He is for sure out 4 GAMES, they already said it will be after the Washington game that Goddell will revisit the issue.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think this line
went from Pac being out for 4 weeks to romo bein out for 4 weeks and back. lmao, that was funny.
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Grizz,
What do you think about doing a Q&A with the guy who runs the Pride of Detroit blog? This is the biggest midseason trade in a while and I’m certainly more interested in getting a more in depth look at R2Dub2 than “dude, he’s been sucking on my fantasy team this year!”
I’d like to know more than he’s big, fast, young and from Odessa, if you can swing it.
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you guys think maybe we can sneak Pacman into the games with Henry’s jersey?
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
some insight from a diehard Lions fan on an unrelated football forum I regular
As a Lions Faithful (and willing to admit it in public) I will tell you what I know but you may not want to hear it.
PROS:
Roy Williams has Potential. The problem is he may never live up to it. Being able to work with TO may help him in this regard, but seeing as how hes been in the league as long as he has, he may be set in his ways.
He is a decent teamate, and genuinely is not an Ego Case at all. He doesnt mind being the #2 guy as long as his team is winning. Hes not about the money , although Its still a job and Im sure he appreciates the 45mil. He truly will subvert the natural tendency to have an ego as a #1 guy as long as the team is winning.
CONS:
He is a Terrible route runner. He often rounds his routes dramatically and if the play is not to him he willoften give up on it early. Again, maybe working with TO and being on a decent team will fix this “effort issue”. Time will tell.
This is the worst part. Roy Williams is a Highlight Real Reciever. He makes spectacular plays every season. He also Drops balls in EVERY SINGLE GAME, many of them on 3rd down. The only player who has worse “easy drops” that is a #1 reciever in the NFL is TO. Roy Williams is a younger TO but without a winning tradition from his younger years to learn from.
RESULT OF TRADE: Dallas got Fleeced. This may help them get past the 1st round of the playoffs, and it may not. But we have been discussing Roy trades on the forum i frequent for years (LIONBACKER | HARD HITTING DETROIT LIONS NEWS). Most of them Involved Dallas. As the deadline approached and the team kept telling the media there would be no trade for roy… but the insiders kept saying he was on the block…. the Value was assumed to be a 2nd Rounder…Maybe a 2nd and a 4th. We believed after failing to trade him to dallas before the draft last year that a 1st rounder was not an option. Getting a 1st, 3rd , Swap 6th for 7th for him was a fleecing because he could of been had with a 2nd. You may still like the deal but Dallas gave up way too much.
Good Luck with TO and lil TO part2 with Brad Johnson throwing to them. THe Lions won this day.
Firing Millen and Trading Roy for 3 picks within a few weeks. Hell i dont care if we go 0-16 (possible) this year…. its been a Great season. Now to find a REAL GM.
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny
I think we could have had him with a 2nd, 4th and a 5th but if it helps T.O. the way it should, and improves the team’s chances in the Post Season than it was all worth it.
by Doomsday on Oct 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd and conditional 4th
throw in a 5th maybe, but that is all he was worth. JJ overdid himself.
and y do i get the feeling that cowboy fans are shootin down their own offense. here i am, a diehard iggle, giving the cowgirl offense praise, and im being countered?
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well......all the first rounders in the world won't help the Lions
I hope your 32nd pick in the first round helps you……..lol
I just wonder what Wr they will draft?
The Lions…rebuilding since…..well, forever……lol
Williams is going to be a stud here. Just too bad he wasted his talent for 5 years in Detroit. He will be another L. Davis…..count on it..
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
agree
agree
agree
disagree…
and thanks for the quote…really good, i was gonna mention u but it didnt look right. Williams is just gonna eat the stats that would have ended up for witten or TO
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is crap
If he could have been had for a 2nd, they would have traded him for a 2nd.
If we didn’t get him today, he would have been franchised and it would have taken TWO #1’s to get him.
1st, 3rd, 6th > 2 #1’s
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this sums it up
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/
But really, depending on how you look at it, you can argue that the Cowboys aren’t giving up that much at all.
Let’s break it down. The Cowboys give up a first, third and sixth. And get Roy Williams and a seventh.
Ok, let’s start with the first.
To me, the Cowboys win here. I know you hate to lose a first-round draft pick, but you’re getting a first-round pick, if not better, in return. If Terrell Owens was 28 years old, and not 35 at the end of the season, maybe it’s a different story.
But you know receiver is a position of need at some point. You can’t go into next year’s draft and not try to land a receiver.
There’s no way the Cowboys could dream of getting a receiver anywhere close to the quality of Roy Williams. It doesn’t matter if the wheels come off completely on this team and the Cowboys end up in the middle of the pack, meaning the middle of the first-round. In fact, it doesn’t matter if you’re picking in the top five.
Any receiver coming in here will have question marks. In the draft, you can get a Randy Moss or an Andre Johnson, just like you can end up with a Charles Rogers or a Mike Williams. Wait, Detroit ended up with both of them.
Still, the point is you just never know about the draft. And you may not know what this Roy Williams can do in Dallas. But you like your chances with a guy who has at least made the Pro Bowl.
So you lose a first, and you get a Pro Bowler. Win
You lose a third-round pick. Ok, you already have a third-round pick because of those crazy draft-day trades the Cowboys made last year. They ended up getting Cleveland’s third-round pick. And the one that got sent to Detroit was the Cowboys’ pick. So you keep the Browns’ third-round pick, and trade away your own. It’s likely the Cowboys will finish higher than Cleveland, so I call that a win, too.
As for the sixth-round pick, that’s one the Cowboys got back from the Titans because Pacman is suspended again. And you’ve already acquired another sixth-round pick from the Dolphins for Jason Ferguson. Again, the Cowboys are keeping Miami’s and sending away their own.
Don’t forget, the Cowboys add a seventh from the Lions and pick up a fifth from Tennessee.
So to start the day, the Cowboys had 10 draft picks. Now, they have nine and Roy Williams. And don’t forget the club will likely get a couple of compensatory picks at the end of the season for losing free agents Jacques Reeves and Julius Jones.
So flash back to draft day when you kept getting upset at the TV because the Cowboys kept trading down and down and down and wouldn’t make a pick.
Well, they got Roy Williams out of the deal.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Badddaaa bing........makes sense......right?
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a list of our third round picks since 2001:
Marten, Hatcher, Peterman, Witten, Derek Ross, Willie Blade
Besides Witten obviously, we have had pretty bad luck picking in the third round.
by quincyyyyy on Oct 14, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow does this nail it on the head.
And we traded OUR picks in those rounds, and kept the ones that will most likely be earlier in the rounds? I like.
by mhuff13 on Oct 14, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like this trade
And it opens up alot of options too
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by Mullin on Oct 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 14, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Crayton doesn’t steal Roy’s bags
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u have got to be kiddin me
that was fast
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is Jerry Jones we're talking about
Time is money son!
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im thinking his new name should be
R2W2
since he’s our new droid and all
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should have mentioned
I thought this up after wondering what his name will read on his jersey since we have 2 Roy Williams
by sublimezg on Oct 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
middle name?
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by anuj on Oct 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...I thought about this.
That’s why I tried out R2Dub2 instead of R2D2 or R2W2.
Hmm, I never noticed this before, but R2D2 looks like a Cowboys fan! Look at the colors!
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 14, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy can't double team them both Batman!
I jsut spent a total of 12 hours on airplanes today making the final move from the East Coast to Hawaii and when my jet lagged body finally turned on my computer in this sweet “overlooking the beach” hotel room, what do I see?
—Pacman facing a minimum of 4 games suspension (THAT STUPID MORON — JUST CUT HIM JERRY AND BE DONE WITH IT) that upset me much since our secondary is on life support and we could have really used him right now.
BUT, lo and behold we have been given a gift that makes this horrible week better: Roy Williams is a Cowboy baby! Man, do I LOVE this!! T.O., Roy Williams and Jason Witten! Huzzah!!!!!!
by Philosopher on Oct 14, 2008 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah man the 48 hours after the AZ...
game have been one helluva roller coaster ride.
Say Aloha to Pac and Aloha to RW2.
Lose a rat, gain a stud…I’m down with that.
by MuchMadden on Oct 14, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Crayton made the same call?
but apparently T.O. was the first to call Roy Williams and congratulate him on the trade.
by MuchMadden on Oct 14, 2008 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad Millen didn't get fired arlier this year
and we could have snagged RW2 in the offseason. But we got him, so that’s good.
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by Nelson... on Oct 14, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the excitement has everyone up late.
Gotta say I love the news. TO is a moron if he doesn’t recognize that this will do nothing but help him. We didn’t have a legitimate WR2 (Or more like WR1.5) and now we do. Simple as that.
by Parl on Oct 14, 2008 11:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Best Season 2006
Williams’ best season was 2006, when he went to the Pro Bowl after catching 82 passes for 1,310 yards and seven touchdowns. Wish he will keep up to that./I found some cool widgets at statbeast.com. Recommend it to you guys:)
by StatBeast on Oct 14, 2008 11:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how are each of the RW's going to have their names on their jersey?
like when Randal Williams was here, he had Ra.Williams and Roy had Ro.Williams on the back of their jersey’s…. How are they going to do it??
just have Williams on it and the number? Felix and Pac each just have Jones… I think i heard they stopped putting any initials from the first name on there just can’t remember and i can’t remember the last time i saw a first name initial on the back of a jersey, so i guess they quit doing it…. This is just something i thought about ever since RW2 #11 entered the league and they did used to do it back then, so I’d think how they’d handle it then if both were on the same team
by slash on Oct 15, 2008 1:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys gave up way too much IMO
If you’re a RW fan ,as many of you are, you can rationize that we didn’t give up too much, but in reality we did.
RW simply isn’t an elite receiver, he was overrated in college, and he’s been overrated in the NFL. Everyone looks at his measureables and drool, but the fact is as was pointed out by a Lions fan above, he doesn’t run great routes, drops a lot of passes and is a lazy player.
He isn’t even close to being an elite receiver like T.O., Wayne or Moss. He is nothing more than a solid #2 receiver at best, and giving up a #1, #3 and #6 for a solid #2 WR is very stupid.
You messed up Jerry, this is even worse than the Joey Galloway trade IMO as I don’t RW being any more productive for us than Crayton has been.
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by Terry on Oct 15, 2008 7:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't worry guys
this is just shtick.
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by Longhorn on Oct 15, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong Terry.......
Don’t be a hater….
I told you this would happen and it did. Your missing the big part. Williams put up good numbers on a BAD team. He is a elite Wr.
Get off the Crayton bandwagon because he sucks…He sucks as a #2 Wr. You know it, I know it and most importantly Jerry knew it. The reason Jerry has been trying to get a legite #2 Wr for the past year. We got away with Crayton as the #2 as long as we could. Crayton is not consistant enough to be a #2. The reason TO and Witten have been doubled alot more and more eight in the box for Barber. Williams is going to furish in this offense. It’s a shame Williams talents were wasted in Detroit for 5 years.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here comes negative Nancy again
seriously are you a guy or girl? I’m going with girl.
by sublimezg on Oct 15, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cut this crap out
Everybody knows the rules about getting personal and insulting people. Stop it now.
by Dave Halprin on Oct 15, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
terry has been
the first resonable guy i have seen here at BTB
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by anuj on Oct 15, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go away guju
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by Longhorn on Oct 15, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like Deion Sanders
He said on NFLN last night that this was a panic move, a dumb move, and they could have had “Ocho Cinco” for a lesser price
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by Mullin on Oct 15, 2008 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Deoin was right
although I disagree about Ocho, didn’t want him either. I personally thought Austin was developing just fine.
If we were going to give up a 1st, 3rd and 6th, I’d rather have a great CB than an overrated WR any day. Should have traded for Litto Sheppard.
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by Terry on Oct 15, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is this great CB out there to be traded???
That’s the problem..there wasn’t any!!!
Lito Sheppard was the only decent CB out there, but no way the Eagles trade him within the division. He is also not worth 3 picks and definently not a first round pick. Lito is overrated and injury prone….
We should be just fine until Newman get’s back. We have the depth, now is the time to see what the young guys can do. This was the reason we drafted two CB’s. Now let’s see what they can do.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
overrated and injury prone
now that description could be used for RW as well.
Fact is we need a CB a lot more than a WR no matter how you want to rationalize it. And who said we have to give up 3 picks to get one? Not me.
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by Terry on Oct 15, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played for the Lions man...
Bigg was overrated when he was with the Cards too…
by mhuff13 on Oct 15, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigg was playing out of position
I don’t think the Lions played RW at TE.
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by Terry on Oct 15, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played guard a few years also
Early in his career, didn’t he?
I think you’re underestimating these spoiled superstar’s egos. When they lose alot, they give up sometimes. Just ask Randy Moss in Oakland.
by mhuff13 on Oct 15, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry....right now, we could use the CB help no question about it...
Especially now that Pacman is out, but in 3 or weeks we won’t need him when Newman comes back. Why the heck you think we drafted two quality CB’s? Jenkins and Scandrick are more than capable at starting. Jenkins can start right now. The kid is that good.
I would’ve blown my lid if we blew our wad on a 28 yr. old CB who is overrated and injury prone. There is reason why the Eagles are more interested in keeping Sheldon Brown over Lito Sheppard.
You have to look at the bigger picture. This not only helps us now, but two or so years from now when TO retires or is not resigned.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
thats y we brought in asante to line up with sheldon. lito is the better corner skill wise compared to sheldon from last year, but sheldon has step up and showed that he is durable, something that fragile lito has yet to show. agree with you there Boyzfan, but still….Jenkins a capable starter? nickel, yes, but startin #1 or #2. no. give the kid time to develop to a good cb. the bills got a better corner in Leodis McKelvin, but they didnt throw him in yet. you cant replace experience in the NFL even with extremely good raw talent and the Bills recognized that, cuz McKelvin is way better then Greer. watch teams, pecially the skins and the gmen, exploit Jenkins when he lines up with Plax and Santana.
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by anuj on Oct 15, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Austin is developing just fine
Why isn’t he helping T.O. get open.
Too many double teams on T.O. Period. End of story.
by mhuff13 on Oct 15, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not why T.O. isn't getting open
he isn’t not getting open because he can’t beat press coverage, its that simple.
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by Terry on Oct 15, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny he beat press coverage for the past 12 or whatever years he's been playing...
If he can’t beat press coverage, and is declining (I don’t think so) then this trade is even more important.
by mhuff13 on Oct 15, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um..no
more to do with teams are doubling him. Press coverage has never been a problem for him in the past.
Teams don’t respect Crayton’s game. They were willing to take there chances with him and for most of the season they were successful. Now, they can’t play that game with Williams with on the other side.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crayton will be out of the picture at some
point and Austin will be the #3 guy. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah sure
for a WR that is 4 years older and not anymore talented that Roy Williams minus the distractions….no thanks I’ll pass…
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who are you talking about?
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by Terry on Oct 15, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If so I'll disagree slightly
I think Ocho is more talented than Roy. But the distractions make it ALOT less worth it.
by mhuff13 on Oct 15, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagre
I think OCHO has had a better QB throwing to him..
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by Wmillion on Oct 15, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
way more talents
ocho’s only problem is his antics, but the reciever has more skill and probably even juice then roy
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by anuj on Oct 15, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take RW
4 years younger. Bigger, nearly as fast without the distractions…….
Ocho is showing signs of declining….
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 16, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
Ocho is 4 year older and more of a distraction than TO. We don’t need another 30+ yr. old Wr on the decline here.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
do u admit that TO is a distraction and on the decline. TO isnt gettin more catchs not because he is double teamed. Moss was to, rememeber, but TO is runnin out of juice. Romo is makin the plays, TO isnt makin the seperation
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by anuj on Oct 15, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that TO isn't as explosive as he was 3 or 4 years ago
but he is still a top 3 Wr in this league. He will be 35 next year. It’s only natural for him to decline as he get’s older. The RW move will make the transistion alot smoother when TO does retire or is not resigned. It won’t leave a huge hole in our offense because whether people want to admitt it or not, the offense runs through TO and without him we have problems. That couldn’t be more clearly than last season when he was hurt. I think his contracts runs through 2011. I hope he retires, because I seriously doubt we will resign a 38 yr old Wr.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 16, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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