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Cowboys @ Rams: What They're Saying

Welcome to a very sarcastic and bitter version of What They're Saying. What - you expected rainbows and care bears? Nah, things might turn around but right now, it's nothing but dark storm clouds in Big D. I mean, when Jerry Jones says this:

"I've had all the fire knocked out of my butt tonight," [Jerry Jones] said.

You know it's bad and I don't even know what the heck that's exactly supposed to mean. Did he eat some bad bean burritos with extra hot-sauce or something? Whatever it means, I know it ain't good.

And when you're head coach is saying stuff like this:

"We didn't look like that kind of team that is going to turn it around today,'' said suddenly vulnerable head coach Wade Phillips. He added later, "This is the worst game this team has played since I've been here. ... I'm angry, disappointed and embarrassed. We shouldn't get beat like that.''

You're preaching to the choir, Wade. We shouldn't get beat like that, but we did. The team played without any fire because Jerry was hoarding it all in his butt.

Here's the scary part, there were quite a few quotes that came close to saying the Q-word. Quit.

For instance, after the long Steven Jackson TD run. 

"I think they got their heads down a little bit after that," Phillips said of the Cowboys quitting.

Zach Thomas:

"When they had that long run, you can't let that seep into your head and it did mine," Thomas said. "It snowballed, and it sunk into a lot of our guys' heads, including myself. We didn't play well at all."

Now I'm not saying they quit, but they sure sound like a beaten team. Usually I don't quote the opposing players in What They're Saying but Steven Jackson had some interesting things to say that were on the same subject. This after watching tape of the Cowboys defense this week.

"We really felt their body language as a defense...if you jump on them, we felt we could take them out of their game," Jackson said. "We wanted to kill their morale.

"They're a very talented team. It's something we felt if we could jump on them, we could put them away."

There's that talented team thing again. It's now gotten so far into the organization's head that they are calling themselves out about believing their own press clippings from last year and earlier this year.

"Part of it is, this is not last year's team," Phillips said. "This is this year's team. We won some close games [last year]. We came from behind last year and did a lot of good things, and we seem to think we can do those things, and we haven't done them. Especially lately."

Jason Witten.

"We've got to look at ourselves and try fix it because you can't talk about talent and all that stuff," tight end Jason Witten said. "That doesn't mean anything. We just have to go do it."

Even the usually mute Leonard Davis had something to say.

"I don't really talk a lot like that . . . not really a rah-rah guy," Davis said. "But when I got something to say, I don't care, I'm going to speak my mind. It really wasn't a big deal."

"We just can't ride the wave anymore," he said. "Last year is last year. We can't look back at last year. It doesn't help us now. That's really all I said."

Click the link below, there's more, including what the team plans to do about this mess.

Star-divide

So the question becomes can the Cowboys do anything about it? Can they do anything to turn this season around? Well, they're saying the right things, although we've been hearing this for a few weeks now.

"[Jerry] was pretty disappointed," linebacker Greg Ellis said, "but he also said some positive things. You're going to get knocked on your butt a whole lot of times in your life. It's how you choose to respond to that that will determine success or failure in life. This is our opportunity to show what kind of people we are made of and fight back."

Ken Hamlin isn't going to let people off the hook including rookie Mike Jenkins who struggled in his first start. And he doesn't want to hear about who is not on the field, but the players on the field need to start taking responsibility.

"I'm going to keep reiterating," Hamlin said. "People that are out there are accountable. We hold them accountable to their play. And they've got to play. We can't worry about people on the sideline. They can't help us. When they get back, we're going to be glad to have them back. But the guys who are out there, they're accountable and we hold them accountable."

Really? I haven't heard much of that accountability-thing yet, maybe it's all going on behind closed doors. Another guy in the secondary who needs to start playing a whole lot better is Anthony Henry.

"We're still professionals," Henry said. "We have our own responsibility and we have to bring it together as a team. That's the main thing."

The main thing would be to stop giving up easy passing TD's, but that's just me.

And the bizarre comment of the post-game has to go to Zach Thomas.

"Ever since the (game against Cincinnati two weeks ago) we thought everything was going to come easy. It hasn't. We just haven't got better, including myself," linebackerZach Thomas said. "The second half was awful. Just awful. You can't cry about it. If you've got pride, you have to keep working. ... We have a lot of problems we have to fix."

Ever since the Cincinnati game you thought things were going to come easy? A game where you guys barely beat a team that has yet to win a game this season? I mean, I get the rest of the comment; you guys were awful, and I don't want to hear crying either but just somebody fixing it. But why anybody thought things would come easy after scraping by with a win in the fourth quarter against one of the worst teams in the league is beyond me. Maybe a lot of that kind of delusional thinking has been going at Valley Ranch.

And poor Roy Williams, he actually thought he was going to a team that wins.

"Yeah, I didn't really expect this, but I'm not worried about it," [Roy] Williams said. "We're a little down right now, but we'll make it back. I'm not too concerned."

No too concerned? Wait a few weeks and you might be.

So yeah, I'm sarcastic and bitter. But things have to get better, right? There's a plan to fix this, right Wade?

"I don't have an answer for it," [Wade] Phillips said. "If I did, we wouldn't have played like we did. But we're going to do something about it."

Could you be more vague? That doesn't exactly inspire confidence. We, the fans, are expecting more.

"It is not the time to sit around and moan and feel sorry," [Jerry] Jones said. "Our fans are expecting more and they expect us all to get in there and come up with anything we can do to make us better."

Could someone at the Ranch give me an idea of what that might be? I'm just asking.

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O Line?

Does anyone know when Kosier comes back?

Geaux Cowboys!

by dlthibo on Oct 20, 2008 6:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not just Proctor..

Flozell is making every DE look all pro. Flozell is looking like a old, slow LT. We may have to go out a draft a LT next year if this keeps up.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we can package our picks to get back there

that’s not a problem. If not there are always good values in the 2nd round for OL.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nd

We still have our 2nd rounder. Remember Larry Allen was drafted in the 2nd round.

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 20, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can just get to that bye week at 5-4 with no more significant injuries

I think this team could make a run. After the bye we should have Newman, Kosier, Spencer, Felix, Romo, and Burnett back with RW2 ready to start.

by houseofprime on Oct 20, 2008 7:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree but . . .

I don’t think we get to 5-4 unless Romo starts playing before the bye comes. Yes, the defense played poorly, but the Rams started three of their first four drives in Dallas territory (scoring TDs on two of those drives), and the other two Rams TDs both came with good starting field position (Rams 37 and Rams 38). Most of that field position was due to the ineffectiveness of the offense. Again, this is not to excuse the defense, but we’re not going to win if we can’t sustain drives and move the ball. And that’s not going to happen with Brad Johnson at QB. He’s a great guy, but he was awful his last season for the Vikings, and no way he should have been brought in to be our backup.

Of course it’s not all Brad’s fault either: the offensive line, and the TEs, need to start blocking better and stop getting so many penalties. But at least Romo can (as consistently as anyone) overcome the situations those penalties and missed assignments put us in.

I’ll be happy if we split the next two games, I just don’t see it happening without Romo.

by BlueStarDude on Oct 20, 2008 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Were heading for 4-6 real quick....

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say 4-5 real quick

Once everyone gets healthy after the bye week, this team will play better just because of that reason alone.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-5 or 4-6.... stick a fork in us because we would be all but done...

Hell….not like this makes you feel any better Terry, but we have just gave Detroit a top 10 pick if we keep playing like this….

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*We may have I meant......

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I think the team can rebound after the team heals up after the bye, I’m not throwing in the towel at 4-5, I fully expect it.

Its what we do after the bye that will determine our season.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 20, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we go 4-5 or 4-6 it won't matter what we do

from there on. We would have lost 3 division games, 2 to one team in the Redskins, and one to the Giants. You can’t drop that many division games that early an expect to make the playoffs. You are not understanding the importance of winning our division games. 10-6 won’t cut it, especially if we keep losing division and conference games..

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who said anything about losing to the Skins?

I said we can turn this around after the bye, that means beating the Skins who we play first after our bye. My scenario goes like this.

TB loss 4-4
NYG loss 4-5
bye
Skins win 5-5
49ers win 6-5
Seattle win 7-5
Pitts win 8-5
NYG win 9-5
Balt win 10-5 we’re in
Philly loss 10-6

Under that scenario we make the playoffs.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice spin on it

and I hate to rain on your parade, but there is no way in hell we are winning 6 out of 7 down the stretch..NEVER going to happen …Not with this team. We are about to drop 3 in a row and even if we win one out of the next three we are not winning 5 out of the last 6. Face reality Terry, this team is not going to pull that kind of a run.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, you never know, it could happen

The Giants sure as hell didn’t look like they had a prayer to go to the SB and beat the unbeatable Pats, anything is possible in the NFL these days.

And its not like we don’t have the talent to do it, the team just needs to get refocused and stop making mistakes. If they could win 7 in a row last season, they can do it this season.

Remember, never say never.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Are Not...

the VaGiants!!! The VaGiants had discipline last year, something the Cowboys have no idea what that is.

If we lose the next 2 games then count us OUT of making a run for the playoffs.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Oct 20, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I still think there would be hope, there is nothing like a bye week to re-energize everyone.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The team isn't playing with any intensity or sense of urgency at all

I think Zach nailed it when he said the team believes things will come easy because of all the talent on the team, that all they have to do is show up and because we’re the mighty and talented Dallas Cowboys, teams will simply roll over.

The opposite is actually occuring, every team we play brings their “A” game and wants to beat us bad. Why the team doesn’t recognize this is puzzling, it seems so obvious to me.

Bottom line is that unless Romo’s finger heals very quickly and he can play against TB and NYG, the team has no chance of beating either team. Its obvious Brad cannot move this offense on a consistent basis. I think the team can fight back and get on a roll at some point, but it won’t occur until after the bye week.

Cowboys fans should be prepared at looking 4-5 right in the face because it will more than likely happen.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 7:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could not agree more

This team acts like they are the mighty Cowboys and teams are going to lay down for them. I just don’t understand why this team lacks swagger and a killer attitude. I have been a Wade supporter but at some point, a lot of the problems start there. I don’t see any coaches chewing butts when this team pulls stupid stunts and continues to make mistakes.

by WestTxHornFan on Oct 20, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happened to Checkdown Johnson?

All week we kept hearing how well Brad would manage the game, how he wouldn’t make any huge mistakes, how his experience is what we’d rely on to keep the ship steady until Romo returns. Steady ship? 3 picks trying to throw into tight coverage and double coverage? Trying to go deep? (Note to Brad: if you can’t throw an accurate 8 yard pass what makes you think your deep ones will find the mark). Taking a sack to lose a FG attempt when that’s the most important thing NOT to do? Trying to force the ball to T.O. like there was nobody else out there? Here’s the pattern that developed early and when I figured it was pretty much over…

1st down – Brad tries to complete a 10+ yard pass. Incomplete…now we’re off schedule
2nd down – We run to try to get some kind of yards. Barber gets stuffed because the Rams knew the run was coming.
3rd down – We lived in the land of 3rd and long all day…converting 3rd and long is not Brad’s strength.

Instead of Checkdown Johnson I felt like I was watching a remake of the “40 Year Old Virgin Rookie”.

I’m ready for 4-5 pleeeeeze surprise me.

by MuchMadden on Oct 20, 2008 7:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch BJ in preseason?

If so, none of this should have surprised you…

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Oct 20, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garrett

Doesn’t he get some of the blame? I mean, it seemed we kept calling for down field passing plays when it was obvious that Brad can’t make these throws. The sad thing is, he probably makes those throws in practice against our D which isn’t saying much, obviously.

by WestTxHornFan on Oct 20, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pick 11 names

at random from your local phone book.

Those people could convert third-and-long against our defense.

Pitiful.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Oct 20, 2008 7:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Optimism

I know I’m going to sound like Pollyanna right now, but I still think this team will make the playoffs and has a good shot to win it all. Even if this team goes 4-5 by the bye, they come out the other side a healthy and better team. They always play well the first game after the bye and I think that could set them up for a great second half run. I think 9-7 makes the playoffs and once they get in, no one will want to play the Cowboys.

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 20, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we'd have to be at least 10-6

Unless some other teams take some real nose dives, 9-7 won’t get you in this year.

But I agree with you, I’m not throwing in the towel yet even if we lose our next 2 games, which we will happen unless Romo plays.

I can envision a scenario where the team gets re-energized after the bye, gets their injured players back and wins the rest of their games. Fans have to keep in mind that the Giants fans were calling for the head of Tom Coughlin at this time last year and we all know how that turned out.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the competition increasing from the West and South

it may even take 11-5. Cleveland missed the playoffs last year with a 10-6 record because of the level of competition in the AFC.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of these teams will beat up on each other. There are less horrible teams in the NFC this year. That means teams won’t be able to pad the records like they can in the AFC.

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 20, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but

without teams like Dallas and Green Bay taking up 13 wins and dishing out less losses to NFC teams, the records will bunch up in the middle (9-7s and up).

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

This is why I think a 9-7 team will make it. It probably won’t be Dallas unless we start winning NFC games. 10-6 is definitely in.

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 20, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly Big

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i liked that jerry quote.

all around pitiful game to watch yesterday, but i don’t see it getting any worse. is that being optimistic?

Really all America want is cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to take a s**t with a door on it. - Mr. Ford

by buckets on Oct 20, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Zach Thomas

was trying to say leading up to the Cincinnati game.

by bryangene on Oct 20, 2008 8:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

I think Zach meant that starting with the Cincinnati game the team was playing as if things would come easy to them i.e. they could win handily without top notch effort and execution. Zach was never the most graceful speaker and catch him after a tough loss late in his career that has included a lot of concussions and he might start mixing metaphors.

by Ailuridae on Oct 20, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope Romo starts next week

We need him. Johnson couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn.

by bluewolf021 on Oct 20, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Andre Gurode is a problem.

I thought this last year, but Romo was able to bail him out a few times. I know this coaching staff isn’t about to do anything drastic, but I would rather see Proctor at Center.
Every play counts this season, and this guy still hasn’t figured out the shotgun or the QB count. If I could spell lacquidasical right, I would. Don’t anybody try to argue with me on Gurode, because I was one of those last year that didn’t feel he deserved to go to the ProBowl. Tell me: what does he do that is great?

Dallas recently resigned Gurode and False Start Flozell to long-term contracts. Lame—Two guys with issues that incessantly affect the team; issues that neither of these two do anything to correct. 5 yard penalties and 15 yard “bad snap” losses will eventually catch up to any team. Drive killers. Morale killers.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

resigning Flozell is looking like a bad decision

He is look old and tired real quick

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

And the extension looks like it will kill the salary cap in year’s to come, as if they were thinking Flozell would be some sort of Jackie Slater and play into his 40’s!

Flozell and Gurode have both had motivation problems in the past.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

Sucks that Free’s the best alternative

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN First Take

Usually, I don’t agree with alot of what they say but Steven A Smith said something that could happen. He said fire Wade if he doesn’t turn it around by the bye week. Replace him with Garrett as the interim coach and give him until the rest of the season to turn it around. If he doesn’t show anything then make a decision whether to keep him or start over. Maybe persue Cowher in the off season.

One another note…I’m not impressed with Hudson Houck whatsoever. He may have been a good OL coach at one time, but I’m not seeing it.

Changes need to be made, players need to be demoted to make a point.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Read as well

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by DerekSTheRed on Oct 20, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would Garrett make a difference?

He seems to already have a great influence on this team, but firing a coach midseason would only increase the circus.

Of course, Rams and Raiders have benefitted so far.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zach Thomas is a bad fit for us.

I watched the game twice last night and Nick just made a comment on it as well. Zach get’s swallowed up by the OL and can’t break free. He get’s tackles, but doesn’t show up in the game other than the stat sheet. He is NOT a 3-4 ILB…..I thought at first Zach would be a upgrade over Ayodele, but it doesn’t appear so at this point.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame the DL.

In the 3-4, the defensive line is supposed to tie up the offensive line, leaving the linebackers to make plays. Many people have said that the reason Bradie James doesn’t make plays anymore is because in Wade’s defense, he is supposed to occupy a lineman as well, freeing up Zach to make the play. If Zach is having to take on linemen, one or more of those 4 guys is not getting his job done. I think that most of the problems for the defense this year are due to the DL playing soft. I love Ratliff at DT in a 4-3, but he is not built to play the nose in a 3-4. He should demand a double team every single play, run or pass, but especially run. That’s what the entire 3-4 hinges on, a brick wall in the middle of the field that demands at least 2 guys to get moved out. The DE on the side they are running to should also occupy either 2 lineman or a lineman + fullback or TE. On passes, those 3 guys should be collapsing the middle of the pocket, forcing the QB to move either left or right. That’s not happening, which is why we can’t beat the run, and we can’t get any pressure. They know they can take on the DL 1 on1, so that leaves 2 lineman + backs and TE to block any LBs that are blitzing or need moved out.

I think they really wanted Tank to become the NT and have Ratliff at DE. Unfortunately, Tank just isn’t good enough, so Ratliff is the best option. That’s probably why they tried Spears out there, too. In hopes he could at least play the brick wall role, freeing up Ratliff to be a monster at DE. The Ferguson trade was a huge mistake, and there is no one on the team able to fill that role.

by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 20, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1
I love Ratliff at DT in a 4-3, but he is not built to play the nose in a 3-4.

You nailed it right there. His talents need to be used on the outside as a DE. He is not big enough or consistant enough to play NT in a 3-4. We need a NT like Wade had in SD. Until then, we will have problems in the middle of the line….

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 20, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need a drill sergeant

I’d like to see Jerry create a new position in this organization that resembles – NWS LINK (language) – this guy. Freaking rudy poo candy ass’s need to quit being such pansy’s. How do you quit in the first freaking quarter!?

I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of finger pointing pussbags in the game of football.. Makes me want to chew nails. I’m sure there’s some retired hard ass drill sergeants out there that could serve as an overseer of the entire team and staff and get on whoever needs getting on which at this point is everyone.

RAWR!

by sublimezg on Oct 20, 2008 11:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What Can Be Done Now Versus What Can Be Done Later

When we’re facing the kinds of problems that the season has shown us this team has so far, I think you’ve got to start by breaking down what can be done now (behavioral and personnel) versus what can be done later (trades and drafts).

One of the biggest things I see in the sequence of play calling on offense is something MuchMadden commented on above: Inefficiency on 1st down. Opposing defenses jamming T.O. at the line and rolling safeties over the top on deep coverage. Jason Witten is also getting bumped and seems to be running through a whole lot of drag zone coverage down the middle of the field. With these two guys locked down, whither Crayton or Austin or MB3 on the flare to the flat?

The run set up the pass last year as it does at every level of the game. Without the run this year, opposing teams are sitting on the pass and shutting it down. So I hope that priority numero uno for Jason Garrett is re-establishing the run.

The defensive side of the ball is a whole other story. This unit isn’t terribly different from the unit that was dominant last year except for the injuries. Unfortunately the injuries have been so numerous that I don’t know that there is anything that can be done right now to help the unit. I do think that re-establishing the run and, at least until the bye week, taking a run-heavy approach to the offense, is probably the best thing to do to help both the offense and defense. Would it be boring? Yes. But it will chew up the clock and keep our defense off the field.

by Mister Naxal on Oct 20, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Garrett seems to have been trying to reestablish the run

It’s the O-line that isn’t establishing anything. Barber’s yards are all his, whether it’s a 2 yard twister or a 25 yard bounce to the outside.

Where are the holes against a young Rams D-line? They definitely aren’t there on 1st downs.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually Garrett set up the run by passing

a lot on 1st downs last year, which really is the way to go.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Was Last Year

He’s flipped this year because most teams have found him to be predictable.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Oct 20, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

regardless

1st down is the best down to pass on and he doesn’t do it enough.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He Has Many Times This Year...

And still nothing happens. I remember the Foreskin game where he had Romo throw on 1st down and he was picked off.

Garrett is way too predictable, he likes to throw on 1st but usually ends up as an incompletion. So he tries for throws again on nd and 3rd down and most of the time it results in a 3 and out.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Oct 20, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game look pretty simple to me..

Our D stunk and Brad Stunk..

Against a banged up line we couldn’t stop the run?

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Oct 20, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Its time Garrett takes over for the rest of the year

he gave up great job opportunities to stay with us. We at least owe him the rest of the year to see if he can handle the job as head coach, and if not we can always hire Cowher. I don’t want to go into next season passing up an opportunity to get Cowher because Jerry owes it to Garrett.

by quincyyyyy on Oct 20, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd Rather Garrett Show

He’s a good offensive coordinator first. Right now he’s lacking in creativity and becoming entirely too predictable (Barber up the middle on first fown for one yard; a pass in the flat to Witten for two yards; and a deep incompletion to Owens). He needs to mix in screens, slants and draws, to force defenses to think about what’s coming next.

by kindablue on Oct 20, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well we are not going outside for a Head coach until the offseason

so if you want a new head coach now its going to be Garrett. And if he can’t cut it it will be Cowher.

by quincyyyyy on Oct 20, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You Misunderstood Me

I guess in the hysteria of the lynch mob posts, it might be easy to do that. My point was that he needs to be more creative, not that I think he should be fired.

If you read my post closely, it should be clear.

by kindablue on Oct 20, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

and one of the better plays he called—a FB screen to Cricket—was successful, yet he never used it again.
Does Garrett need Romo to make him look good? At this point, I’d say yes. He’s still a young coach.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am way on board w/ this idea. I’d love to give Wade until the bye and if they were to head into it at 4-5, then you’d think that JJ would have to give the reigns over to Garrett to see what he can do. The Rams certainly seem to be playing better w/ a mid season coaching change.

The problem for Garrett is that he would need a defensive coordinator because Stewart sucks too.

In this, scenario if the team finished strong, than the job would be Garrets in 09. If not, someone new would need to come in.

by gee-roj on Oct 20, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Injury Bug

Has been huge this season. We were lucky last year, this year not as lucky.. Only way you get 13 Pro-Bowlers is have them healthy.. We are down 4 Pro-Bowlers already-T New, Roy Williams, M. Briar, and Romo (the most important).. Some will return soon, but soon enough..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Oct 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This team doesn't have 13 pro bowlers

It simply has 13 guys that went to the pro bowl unjustified, save about 4 or 5

by sublimezg on Oct 20, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the time to

put last seasons 13-3 record behind us was the first day of offseason workouts. But of course our fearless leader Wade was saying what a great feat it was going into training camp……this team is lacking real leaders and it starts at the top. Jerry is a great owner who will do whatever it takes to get his team what he feels it needs to be successful. Is only downfall is he truly wants to see his coaches have success so he waits to long before pulling the trigger. I would ax Wade and put Garritt in charge after next weeks game. Give the new coach two weeks before his first game. Then I would let him know this is his audition for next year. If he turns this team around and they play with passion and live up to the hype then I give him the job if not I call Cowher to come take the team over next year. I bet Cowher won’t run camp cupcake 3………..

by jvw on Oct 20, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if any of you heard what Jimmy Johnson said

during pregame, but I agree with his analysis here.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy hit the nail on the head

The team is simply making too many mistakes whether it be penalties, committing turnovers, missing assignments, they are an extremely sloppy football team.

He also brought up a good point that you correct these things in training camp and preseason but the Cowboys were too busy being TV stars on Hard Knocks. His direct shot at Jerry of course.

Wade needs to treat the next few weeks as training camp and get these things corrected.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wade

Just doesn’t have it… We have had the same problems from Day 1 and he can’t rectify the problems.

Man, I didn’t like Brad going in to the season, I really don’t like him now.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Oct 20, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The players dont fear Wade

They know who’s in charge of this team, and it’s not Wade Philips, it’s Jerry Jones. The PLayers are just tuning Wade out because they know there wont be disciplined and no fear of losing their job

by Deke on Oct 20, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right

Wade doesn’t demand accountability from his players and thats the problem.

Players absolutely have to be accountable for their play.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 20, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grizz

You’re humor sure didn’t brighten my day and provided some much needed comic relief:

The team played without any fire because Jerry was hoarding it all in his butt.

Pure genius. I salute you sir.

"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber

by DC_fan on Oct 20, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ty Law

any thoughts about him coming to Dallas

by TRFAN on Oct 20, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

No more aging vets through Free Agency.

Look at the good, young teams that are winning: Titans, Giants, Bills. Their draft picks are their nucleus.

No more band-aids.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 20, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree

He deserves to be on a better team.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Oct 20, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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