Cowboys defense comes up huge in 13-9 win over Tampa
by Dave Halprin on Oct 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT
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It wasn't pretty, but that was a HUGE win for the Dallas Cowboys. Using a tenacious defense that held the Tampa Bay Bucs out of the endzone, Dallas squeaked by with a 13-9 victory. At this point, I'm just elated that we actually won the game, forget about the sorry offensive play by QB Brad Johnson (but at least he didn't turn the ball over). I'll rip that in another post. The important thing is that the Cowboys stopped the bleeding over the past month and beat a good Bucs football team.
Wade Phillips decision to take over the play-calling, at least partially, paid dividends as the Cowboys defense played better than it has in over a month. They still gave up a lot of cushion to the receivers but they managed to hold the damage to a minimum. And when the game was on the line in the fourth quarter, the defense gave up yards and allowed two fourth-down conversions, but made the ultimate goal a reality - keep the Bucs offense out of the endzone.
You won't want to use the film of this game as a blueprint for the offense, but a victory in our dire circumstances is all I could hope for. At worst we go into the bye week with a 5-4 record and if we can pull off a miracle in New York we could actually be 6-3. After that point, we should get Tony Romo back, Terence Newman could also return and we could get pretty close to healthy at most positions. The return of Felix Jones would also be a big boost to the offense.
Celebrate the win below.
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I love it
But brad has to go…
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 26, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
as long as he doesn’t turnover the ball, I’ll take it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that will be good enough
vs. Giants.. The Giants create to much pressure. We need the mobility
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 26, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right
He’s no better than last week. He’s less than marginal. Who exactly is screaming how bad Romo sucks right now??
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 26, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brad plays like that next week were toast...
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great job by the defense this week, but we have major problems on offense
Were not going to win many games playing like this. Brad just plain out sucks. That was another pathetic display on offense. If we play like that next week we are going to loose..
For all those doubters about Jenkins, he showed today why he was a first round pick.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anything, Bollinger needs to get more reps this week.
by TacoKid on Oct 26, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
our offense actually played much better
than I thought they would, same goes for Brad, I really didn’t think our offense would score more than 10 pts and we’d definitely need a TD from our D or ST.
Great overall team victory.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
their most successful drive was mostly Bucs penalties
but hey, you get yards and first down how you can get them.
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too many of BJ’s passes were a bit off. Not too much to get picked, but just enough to miss. I find it very frustrating to watch BJ right now, but I’m not sure Bollinger will be much better. I would like to see him get more reps in practice just in case BJ plays an ineffective game next week.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Oct 26, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry, c'mon
Brad is really horrible, worse than I thought. He’s the weak link right now. Yes, he knows the plays and he’s careful with the ball, but if he’s called on to play from behind, forget it. The guy cannot throw accurately past 10 yds. He’s lucky no passes bounced up for an easy INT.
I don’t think Bollinger is the answer, but at least he’s mobile and a threat to run. He might be more risky with the passes, but BJ himself put in a good word for him to take over when he retires.
The problem of a capable backup was not addressed in the off-season, and now Dallas is forced to choose between the lesser of 2 evils. That is the real mistake.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Brad is real bad agreed
The problem is they would never let Bollinger start with just one week of practice against the Giants. Brad has to have the game of his life next week for us to have a chance. There is no deep threat with Brad which means the Giants are stacking 8 in the box and blitizing the crap out of us. If I was Spagnola that’s what I would do. We have to be considered about Wittens injury also. Who knows what his status will be next week. We need that intermidiate threat if we have a chance with Brad’s dead arm..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Midgets will be blitzing non-stop
That’s why I’m leaning more towards letting Bollinger play. At least he’s mobile and has a chance to move. The way Flo is playing, I can see Tuck and Kiwi having a field day.
If BJ is starting next week, Garrett better run a lot of trickeration. Maybe even platoon the QB’s. I don’t like it, but if you are going down, better to go down fighting.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We
really need to start playing Choice some more, just to change it up a bit
by icouldusesomebaseball on Oct 26, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Win
This was the first time since I can remember where the defense carried us. They always seems to give up a critical score right before the end of the half or game, but they were stout today.
We scratching and clawing our way out of the dog house.
by kindablue on Oct 26, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"pass rush pretty good there at the end of the game
I was impressed with their stamina"
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+10000 Grizz
the part about keeping the bucs out of the endzone is all I kept saying to my TV on that last drive.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 26, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heck Yeah!!!!
I’ll take It
I love the way our defense played
ST coverage was good
The punter absolutely rocked TB’s Return guy on that 1st punt
RW11 gets his 1st TD at home
and we’re 5-3
Bring on the Giants!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i will take any win for the cowboys. let everyone but me dissect what didn't work. this plus a giants loss would make my sunday turn from really good to great.
Really all America want is cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to take a s**t with a door on it. - Mr. Ford
by buckets on Oct 26, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you must hope for the giants
its reverse psychology weekend….
by Deke on Oct 26, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but i said the boys would win. -_- so i'll stick with regular psychology for the time being. :)
Really all America want is cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to take a s**t with a door on it. - Mr. Ford
by buckets on Oct 26, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not impossible that we could be in first place after next week.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 26, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess the Skins have the tiebreaker for now, but we could be tied.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 26, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
what a turnaround that would be
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah man...
D played well. we didn’t bring as much pressure as i’d like but we did get to him and kept them out the endzone. sweet.
brad sucks. i want my money back jerry even though I didn’t spend anything. he’s useless. we got a gimme TD and that was the difference. but we did win and i’m estatic.
good job Boys!
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Oct 26, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The NFL record, but not the Cowboy record...how messed up is that?
by WB3forMB3 on Oct 26, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only since they started keeping the stat (in 82?)...
Correct me if I’m wrong (it happens a lot), but he has the NFL record…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 26, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the one thing I will say
Brad didn’t turn the ball over. he allowed the defense and special teams to win.
and he threw one good TD pass.
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy made a hell of grab...BJ just got it to him...
I’ll still take Romo hahaha. Call me Captain Obvious
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 26, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeMarcus Ware is the MAN!
Doesn’t get the sack record, but that last game winning play was all him.
Garcia did what you have to do on 4th down, just get the ball up into the air, but that play was made by Ware.
By the way, did anybody see Kevin Burnett hand-checking and jostling for position with the umpire on that last 4th down play?
by DolphDallas on Oct 26, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“you guys are the ones who create all the negativity” lol
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q: what was said in the locker room?
TO: don’t listen to the media.
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas isn't winning next week scoring 13 points
by Deke on Oct 26, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely not.
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
by Nelson... on Oct 26, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man I thought I was the Debbie Downer of BTB
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 26, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steelers are holding the GMen to 9 pts so far
never know
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Debbie Downer
I dated her. Wow!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 26, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 no way, not the way they played today
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coulsn't be happier
with the way the D played. Nice.
by sublimezg on Oct 26, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sidenote...
whatever you think about joey porter. he’s playing he’s @$$ off this year. wish we had someone like him beside d ware to really bring the heat. MB3 lifted our team. he did all he could to help us. i’m scared for witten. he’s tough but he’s beat up.
other than that, my liver thanks you Boys. i was drinking so many spirits it was ridiculous.
watching T.O. now. don’t fall for the trap dude! don’t say something stupid!
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Oct 26, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great game, credit goes solely to the defense for their win as the offense was pretty bad again
BUT, two beautiful catches by Roy Williams showing off just how good his hands are. Brad did throw a nice TD pass, but it’s BEYOND pathetic that we couldn’t complete one pass of more than 10 yards. They did show tremendous fight, but once again, the defense must get 90% of the credit for this one, holding them to 3 points in the second half. Let’s go Steel!!!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the defense gets 176% of the credit!
Does this mean Brian Stewart is one step out of the door…?
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 26, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Credit to Marion Barber too
although he didn’t lit up the stat line, he did have a few crucial first downs
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is there no sunday night game?
World Series? I can’t think of anything else, but that’s really a drag anyways. Couldn’t make any bets due to the cowboys playing at 1:00 and couldn’t get anything in for the 4:00 games as the cowboys game was too hectic, now there’s no Sunday night game!!!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's the World Series
Who cares about baseball still?
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
by DC_fan on Oct 26, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Plus it’s not like FOX is the network that carries the WS, you’d like NBC would want to take ratings away from FOX, if they scheduled a marque match up for tonight, with the small baseball markets of Philly and Tampa, NBC could have easily put up better ratings on a regular sunday night game than a World Series game 4.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant NBC isn’t the network that carries the WS. I can’t get a thing right today, I need to get off of here, I’m just ecstatic that we pulled one out today. Going to the game next Sunday, I don’t know what to expect at this point.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else think Alan Ball played well?
I thought Ball played particularly well, and much better than Henry. Henry plays his man 7-8 yards off the line, regardless of whatever the rest of the secondary is doing. Ball looked well when he game into replace Henry and didn’t get beat at all. Outside of the factor that we’re losing our secondary depth by the minute, I wouldn’t mind Henry sitting and Ball replacing him, give Ball a chance.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW… meant to say Ball looked good when he came into replace Henry… few too many brews will do that to ya.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the defensive performance was even more impressive
considering our DB situation! we had our #4 5 & 6 CBs in (and a backup SS), two rookies and the guy who was the 53rd man on the roster, not even active in the early games. and they held a sometimes potent passing offense out of the end zone. having a decent 4-man pass rush helped too, but sometimes he had a lot of time and couldn’t find anyone open downfield. pretty impressive for such a thin and young secondary.
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
the secondary should just envision their end zone 20 yards behind them on every play, the red zone D was outstanding!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alan ball looked real good
I’ve been talking this kid up for awhile and he showed why they like him. I think Henry was out for awhile when he was in there.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steelers have the ugliest throw back unis
I’ve ever seen, those yellow helmets are just hideous.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen the Jets? For whatever reason they wore them two weeks in a row. If that's the case we should wear the double star every week.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Jets throwback uniforms, but blue is my favorite color
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 26, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no they're not
the eagles last year were the worst
by Deke on Oct 26, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the Rams?
baby blue and yellow that they broke out last year?
Me: "We got Roy Wiliams in a trade today." My Wife: "What does that mean?" Me: "Well, it at least means that there are two poeple playing for the 'Boys now with the same name."
A few hours later: My Wife: "If our next child is a boy, what would you want to name it?" Me: "How aobut Roy Wiliams?"
by HEpennypacker on Oct 26, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your Rams and I'll raise you
remember those awful Eagle ones? The Yellow and baby blue?
by sublimezg on Oct 26, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles throwback unirforms looked like the Swedish Olympic Hockey team uniforms
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 26, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a difference a week makes...
Myself included. I just went BANANAS in a Redskins bar and MAN, they hated me for it. But F them…
It wasn’t pretty, but that was a HUGE win for the Dallas Cowboys.
Grizz, I agree with everything you write, but this WAS pretty. We know our offense blows without Romo, but our defense stepped up something FIERCE this week. ZERO TOUCHDOWNS ALLOWED!!! That is so huge. BIG stand at the end of the game to clinch. Like I said, I was down on my team, but they stepped up and protected their home turf. I’m gonna have a GREAT week and, while I still think the Gnats will beat us (again, call me Debby Downer), I have a new outlook on the season as a whole because of this game…Good job Boys. RW2 (Who should now be known as RW1 for the rest of his career because the safety Roy is gone after this year), welcome to Dallas. I love having a Plaxico-like receiver who can go up and snatch a ball out of the air. HOLLER!
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 26, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like RW11
but just RW will do now lol
by scottmaui on Oct 26, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at work all day
But was pleasantly surprised by the outcome
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Oct 26, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the most beautiful 13-9 game I've ever seen
Way to go DEFENSE!
However, did anyone notice that we generated almost no pressure with the front 4? Garcia had loads of time!
On the other hand, the makeshift secondary was unbelievable! Whoddathunk it? Jenkins was fantastic. Scandrick held his own. Hamlin was great on the blitz, and even Killa D showed up once or twice. And I thought Henry was doing a decent job before he got hurt. Also, Ball did well too!
by accidental innuendo on Oct 26, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it was because of the front 4 man rush that won us the game on the Bucs’ last drive of the game, like Gruden said, “they had some stamina”
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy for a number of reasons right now
But the first is the fact that we did all this against a far, far better team than we played last week. This wasn’t a modest improvement, it was an immense one. We’re short a ridiculous number of contributors, but the young guys stepped up. Martellus keeps impressing me, the young CBs were tremendous. This sort of effort makes me think that, as heretical as it might be to say, last week’s debacle may have been a step inn the right direction: The stunning kick in the ass that this ship needed in order to right itself.
Am I nervous about playing the Giants with a cornerback rotation of Jenkins, Scandrick, Ball, and TBD? Yes. But tdoay they showed me they’re far from the hopeless bunch they appeared to be in St. Louis. I don’t necessarily b believe that the simplification of the D was necessary, but as Burnett said before the game- If that’s what it takes to perform, so be it.
Incidentally, Demarcus will probably score the biggest contract ever for a defensive player.
by Conjunction on Oct 26, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Jenkins was our 1st round pick??
Scandrick is twice as good and was a 4th rounder I believe. Jenkins plays 10-12 yards off and really guards no particular pattern. He’s the backbone of Dallas’ bend-then-break defense, which fortunately didn’t break today. Go Cowboys!!
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Oct 26, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
been saying all along Scandrick would be a better CB
just flat out has more talent
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
Scandrick is a good player, but Jenkins is the more talented CB. If you didn’t see that today Terry you weren’t paying attention…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw Scandrick play better
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you need glasses then because
he came an inch away from picking a ball off and going the other way and leveled a RB in the flat for no gain. He was real aggressive today and in the WR’s faces all day. That’s his game, not the zone crap they play…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its obvious you see what you want to see
you probably saw Barbie play well also because recovered a fumble
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see Scandrick make any plays buddy
get some glasses. Don’t be a hater because we didn’t draft Cason….deal with it because he isn’t going anywhere. He is playing the best right now whether you want to admitt it or not…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then you're the one that needs glasses
because Scandrick made just as many plays as Jenkins, if not more, at least he can tackle, something Jenkins doesn’t know how to do yet.
I definitely don’t hate Jenkins, I like him a lot, I just happen to think Scandrick has more talent and ability and will a better player when its all said and done.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah well, just about every scout must be wrong and your right
because if that was the case Scandrick would’ve been a first round draft pick. There is a reason Scandrick is a fifth rounder and Jenkins is a first. Jenkins is getting more comfortable and gaining more confidence every week. His play is showing it. If you can’t see that than I don’t know what to tell you. He made a couple of nice plays out there today. He was man up for the most part, didn’t let the WR’s get begin him and played agressive. That is what we need from these CB’s. Finally, Wade let him do what he was known for in college. A agressive, fast CB…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where somebody is drafted has nothing
to do with how much talent or ability they have. If that was the case, all 1st rd picks would be better players than all other players drafted and we all know that isn’t the case.
See Romo, Brady, MB3, Ratliff ,etc
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Plus Scandrick was projected to be a second round pick
We got real lucky on getting him in the 5th.
We got two really good CB’s in that draft!
Who’ll be better….Time will tell.
I like them both cause they are our guys
the both represented the star well today
and they’ll only get better as the season goes on!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scandrick was NOT projected to be a 2nd rounder....
Not sure where you got that from, but it’s not true.
He will be a good player, but he he is not in the same mold as Jenkins.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he was
projected late 2nd-early third
they said so at the draft
said he was a STEAL in the 5th
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry not true..
Scrandrick was a junior coming out of Boise State and wasn’t projected any sooner than the 4th round. I was all over the CB rankings during draft time and most mocks had him mid 4th, 5th round. Many had him as a undrafted also. He has the talent to be good, but was never considered a 2nd round pick. He was never considered in the same class as Jenkins, Talib, DRC, Cason who were considered the best CB’s coming out.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one said
he was in their class:
Jenkins, Talib, DRC, Cason who were considered the best CB’s coming out.
He was rated in the top 15 corners.
Late 2nd-3rd round.
Doesn’t really matter to me.
I like them both.
They both play for our team
silly to argue over which one is better
according to OUR depth chart its Jenkins
BFD….I like Scandrick AND Jenkins
Who cares who turns out to be better CB
They both played solid today.
They both will make plays and blow plays…Like Jenkins not wrapping up on 3rd and 4 giving up a 1st down……But then he came back and batted the ball away on tight coverage the next play.
Beats the hell out of Reeves and nate jones!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Wright at draft countdown had him as a second rounder
by Conjunction on Oct 26, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go do a google on the 2008 Mock
there is not one that had him in the 2nd round. Draftcountdown, DraftKing..etc…
Nobody even heard of him until we drafted him.
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah just like when Rex Grossman
was drafted in the 1st rd and Romo went undrafted, kind of like that huh?
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
HaHaHa!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go watch the Combine again and tell me who is more talented.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know. I kind of like this
When was the last time we could debate which rookie CB was excellent and which was merely great.? I think Jenks is Newman-like – working on technique, fast, smart. I think Scan is more Pacman (not in the rain-making sense) – quick, hard-hitting, intuitive. I like them both and props to the team for getting them.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Oct 26, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto......, loved both picks
but Jenkins is a first rounder for a reason. He is starting to show it. He’s not going to be great overnight. That’s just not going to happen. Never does for rookie CB’s.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Jenkins and Scandrick played well
Even Ball looked pretty good. I hate losing another CB (Henry), but he’s lost a step that he didn’t have to begin with.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
combine numbers
don’t really show how talented a CB will be.
I like Jenkins AND Scandrick!!!!
They are both OUR GUYS
Doesn’t matter who is what
they are both gonna be solid corners.
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Combine is good for watching certain things
Footwork for example. Jenkins was one guy who stood out because of his speed, being agressive and ability to play press coverage
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But it doesn’t always tell the whole story.
I’ve got nothing against Jenkins.
I’m a huge fan of Jenkins….I cheered when we drafted him…I wanted him at that pick and was damn happy to get him.
O Scan has been a big surprise and I like his play…he’s fast has good coverage skills and isn’t afraid to bring the wood!
Thank god we got them both
remember reeves and nate Jones????
We’re much better off with these guys than we were last year at this time.
I don’t care who’s better…they both are on our team and they’ll improve greatly as the season goes on!
Good Job king jerry….this was a great draft!
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by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're judging talent by combine results
you’re more lost than i thought.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well by that logic Terry, Cason was severely overrated..lol
You can take some good things from the NFL Combine and others you can throw it in the garbage. You just have to be able to spot it. Some players tear it up at the combine who were worthy of there draft status and some turned out to be blunders in the NFL. In the end it’s a gamble and only a tool to evaluate a player
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by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually the opposite is true
Cason isn’t a combine guy, just a guy that can flat out play. Again, I’m not knocking Jenkins, i just like Scandrick better, thats all.
In 3 or 4 years, we’ll then see who was right.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 27, 2008 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins doesnt play off because he wants to.
He has to follow the scheme. The corners dont get a choice. He would love to be up, thats what he did in college.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 26, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it me...
Or does Moose Johnston dog the Cowboys out every game he calls for them? The last two games he had nothing but negativity to say about us and praised the other teams. I think I’m going to bribe Tony Siragusa with food to body slam the Moose.
by Mr. Patrick on Oct 26, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My uncle is a big time Giants fan and he thinks Aikman is a Dallas homer. I think Aikman is good at being neutral. Mooe tries to be neutral a bit too hard, and dogs the Cowboys
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 26, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all know he loves the boys..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 26, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn't seem that he was dogging the 'Boys too bad
Though he had quite a bit to dog us about the last game and our offense was pretty pathetic today. I didn’t think anything he said was out of line.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
by DC_fan on Oct 26, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow James Butler looked worse than good ole Roy Williams there...
James Butler blew the coverage, Washington caught it around the 25 yard line, Butler was turned around and couldn’t locate Washington and let him run in for the final 20 yards. Roy Williams would have at least tackled him after the blown coverage.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ny player pulling a Roy
SWEET!!!
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 26, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that too, however...
…too bad we won’t have a QB next week to exploit that.
Early prediction: Giants 33, Cowboys 9.
NOTE – hoping Deke’s reverse psychology thing works ;~)
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by silverblue5 on Oct 26, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's sad that I'm going to remember Roy Williams more for his blown coverage than his hard hits during his first two years in the league.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Oct 26, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he was overrated coming out of Oklahoma.
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by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Oct 26, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gints go 3 and out
finish them off Steelers
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by cowboy78 on Oct 26, 2008 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Limas Sweed catch for the steelers
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A month ago...
…if you told me I’d be cheering a “Brad Johnson to Roy Williams” pass for a TD to grab the lead I would have told you that you were crazy.
"Is it wrong that I don't care that my wife wants Romo?"
by california fan on Oct 26, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very, very satisfying win.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Oct 26, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have confidence in Pittsburgh now?
by Pete222 on Oct 26, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Their O-line stinks
Big Ben is a tough SOB, but he might not make it to the Boys game with the pounding he’s been taking.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOPE
Steelers gave this game away
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Steelers have no offense without Parker and Holmes
The Giants had a nice advantage today. Regardless, Brad has to throw more than 133 yards and MB3 has to run more than 2.3 YPC if we expect to win next week. I love the win don’t get me wrong, but this offense is horrible right now…..
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 26, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Partially agree...
…but let’s give the Giants D a lot of credit
And the Giants O-line, as well.
Plus, I’ve watched a few Steelers games this year, and he doesn’t get nearly the time in pass protection that he did last season.
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by silverblue5 on Oct 26, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Big Ben is taking a beating behind that line. Seriously.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most team's offenses struggle
without their franchise qb.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most teams throw at least one pass for more than 10 yards in a game too
It can’t hurt to put Bollinger in there this week, can it? Let him get the reps with the first team offense.
Why did they sign him if they were going to have him be the 3rd QB? Why not just keep Bartel on the roster?
by hiafex on Oct 26, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he turns the ball over, yes it can
Brad played well from the standpoint of just managing the game, driving the bus and not turning the ball over.
He did his job.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that wont win the game next week
Not sure how it won this week but it did. I guess we could just think JJ for trading for RW and the Bucs for taking all of those penalties at the end of the half.
by hiafex on Oct 26, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said it will
I’m willing to concede next week, thats okay, I’m thrilled we’ll be at least 5-4 when we get back our studs, I really thought we’d be 4-5.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm not willing to concede
That’s why I say you put the younger, faster and stronger Bollinger in.
by hiafex on Oct 26, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
90% of Brads passes beyond 10 yards were not catchable, and 80% of the passes he threw were under 10 yards, so.....
Checkdown Johnson needs to go — He truly sucks. His accuracy and arm strength of awful. I’d rather have Jason Garrett take off his headset and be out there under center than have to watch another game with this guy….
- Hakrjak
by hakrjak on Oct 26, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Brad didn’t help them team, nearly hurt the team.. He is just too predictable… NYG will get to him with ease..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 26, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Midgets will destroy him
If he’s the deciding factor, Dallas better run 75% of the time and hope the defense plays as well as they did today.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t T.O. one of the best WRs running with the ball after the catch? So we can’t go deep, where are the slants, crossing routes, bubble screens, clear out routes and hitch routes? I know he has been getting the coverage rolled to him have the TE cross the safety’s face to make the safety take a false step. Garret has been figured out, going back to last year! I espically don’t like that draw play out of shotgun for two yards, a play like that should only be used once twice to catch defenses by suprise, not our main running play. Did Crayton play this game? (I know he did). D did great today but how many times are we going to let a WR find the open spots on the field on 3rd and 9? Looks to me that we have better man to man CBs at the moment. Espically with the two rookies playing. Put them at the line bump the WR off thier routes slow thier timing (give D-Ware an extra second to get the QB) and put our safeties over the top. Linebackers can drop to zones. Atleast mix it up. Their it is off my chest. Two words Bill Cowher.
by rocj55 on Oct 26, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correct, obviously
Garrett is too predictable. I am sick and tired of the draw play out of shotgun, we do it too much.
by Burt88 on Oct 26, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Garrett's defense
I think our 3rd and long options are limited with Brad in there.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 26, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you need an accurate qb to throw slants and crossing routes
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 26, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were there, go back and watch them
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 27, 2008 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you words have echoed my season-long sentiments...
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Oct 26, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We simply could not afford the loss
and thankfully they had just enough to win.
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by dunkman on Oct 26, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
it looks like the young guys are going to be playing even more. I saw several articles where they said Henry is highly questionable for next week’s game. I’m sure we’ll know more later in the week, but that could make things interesting. How will these guys hold up to the likes of Plaxico, Toomer and company?
by Tristan on Oct 26, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they'll do fine
Especially if they Know they’ll be starting
Sure Eli will try to pick on them….But he might get surprised!
They are looking better each week.
anybody know when T-New is supposed to be back?
Maybe for the washington game?
I like our guys they played pretty good today!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 26, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I saw
Washington as the earliest but entirely possible, but if not he should be back the next week definitely.
by Tristan on Oct 26, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must say
I have far more faith in them after seeing them all get some action in there today. They stepped up, but I think the Giant’s receiving corp is a lot better, especially considering Galloway was just returning from being out for a while. Hopefully they impress, but they are young and even the best young players make mistakes. We need the offense to play even mediocre next week to really have a shot.
by Tristan on Oct 26, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hi all...... feeling ok in CT
well we won…. we HAD to win this on and we did…
D came up big…. O has NOTHING but MBIII…. give him the ball, throw him the ball, fumble the ball and let him pick it up……………. I don’t care…. he is the only one that has any sort of attitude right now….. weather he picks up 2 or 10 yards….
the other guys WANT to be in the game but Brad can’t make that happen..T.O. stuck in first gear…….. new roy williams…. getting the the flow but can’t do more than the rest of the O guys….
we are in HUGE trouble next week… the Giants do NOTHING impresive but WIN…. why or how………….?!?!!?? I don’t know…. they are well coached right now.. and they play as a team..
i see it now…. Manning will be 17 for 32, and have 180 yards and a pick… against us next week… but somehow that will be enough….
man he sucks…
by stephena on Oct 26, 2008 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I love the D, but TO and Roy were getting open, Brad has to find them..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 26, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can find them alright
He just can’t get the ball near them.
Roy was open most of the plays he was in on, it would have been a cake walk if Romo was healthy.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 26, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 ?
Does this mean you agree with the previous poster? What’s the history behind it?
by TacoKid on Oct 26, 2008 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
And yes it does!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Oct 30, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope for next week
All I can Say is WOW. The defense was awesome today. Containing Garcia and not giving up any big plays to good recievers with backup cb’s is very impressive. If the defense plays with that type of intensity the Boys will have a chance to steal one in NY. Think about some of the missed oppertunities today. Ware and Bradie almost had picks, and another two balls were batted in the air(Just imagine if they had come up with 1 or 2 of thses). It should be easier to get pressure on Eli, after all he doesnt move/jump like Garcia.
The giants havent been playing great themselves. they just so happen to put together timely drives. I think had the steelers long snapper not been hurt they’d be 5-2 right now. With the right amount of pressure and a turnover or 2 we could be in buisness.
last thing:
I agree with almost all of you, Brad sure stinks. Im pissed they didn’t address this in the offseason. I’ve always been for Chris Simms and to think all that stopped them was a mid round draft pick. Jerry could have regained that pick so easily by doing his wheeling and dealing draft day. Whats really irritating is that Brad isnt even making the throws “he can make” He missed Roy williams and T..O on back to back plays where they were both wide open. If he were to just complete those types of passes this offense might actually score over 14 points a game.
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by sprewelllatrell on Oct 26, 2008 11:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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