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Brad vs. Brooks; No good option

Wade Phillips' resistance to proclaiming Brad Johnson the starter in yesterday's news conference is making the rounds in the media. Sure, Wade finally got around to saying Brad would start, but it took several direct questions to get him to say it. Even when he did, you got the feeling he was just doing it to shut-down that line of questioning. Any way you look at it, there is definitely some thought going on at the Ranch about Brooks Bollinger playing some kind of role in the game on Sunday against the Giants.

One thing Phillips was determined about in the press conference was that the offense struggled against the Bucs. Contrary to Wade's normal impulse of sweeping unpleasant things under the rug, he actually stated the offense was bad on several occasions. It's not rocket-science to note that only 172 yards and one TD is an offense that didn't win the game, but merely stayed in the game while the defense saved the day. The Cowboys probably wouldn't be so lucky this week in the Meadowlands.

So is Brooks Bollinger really a better option? It's a very tough call. Brad Johnson did "win" the game last weekend but even his most-noted attribute on the day - no turnovers - is somewhat misleading. There were several throws that ended up hitting the hands of Tampa defenders but they were unable to complete the transaction. If just one of those turned into an interception Dallas might have lost. I will give credit to Brad for one thing, when he saw the sacks coming he covered up the ball and went down, he didn't risk the football in those situations. Come Sunday, there might be a great need for that skill as the Giants can bring the pressure with the best of them. I can see a day full of blitzes from all angles and tight coverage on the receivers because defenses will not respect the possibility of Johnson and the Cowboys going deep.

But what of Bollinger? Can he do anything significantly better than Brad that would warrant putting him in the game? He's younger, so just by age alone he might be a little better at moving around and occasionally tucking the ball and running for yards. But he's no sprinter, he's not even Romo, he's just younger so his legs move a little better than Johnson's. If you look at his sack numbers over the games he's played, they're pretty high. He also will be rusty, and the Cowboys offense is a timing offense, so there's a possibility he could connect at an even lower rate than Johnson has so far. One thing he could bring is a better arm for going downfield. If he could connect on a couple of passes deep, there's the possibility the Giants would have to back off an aggressive defense to some extent, although my guess is they will still come at any QB the Cowboys put on the field Sunday.

What's the point? The Cowboys just don't have any good options on Sunday at QB. Whether it's Brad or Brooks, everything will depend on the rest of the team to win. The offensive line will have to have one of their best games of the season in pass protection and they will need to open holes for the running game. The defense will need another stellar effort like last Sunday; the pass rush needs to rattle Eli and the young guns in the secondary will need to play the game of their short-careers. Even the special teams will probably need to chip in a big play or two.

So I'm not going to stress out about Brad or Brooks, either way, they'll have one job - don't hurt the team with turnovers. It will be up to everyone else to win the game.

JJT says start Brad and have Brooks ready to go at a moments notice. I tend to agree.

Our young CB's need to perform again this week.  

It's weird how almost everyone on our team who is injured is expected to come back after the bye week. Heck, even suspended CB Pacman Jones will have his situation reviewed at that time.  

In my What They're Saying post after the Bucs game, I called Ken Hamlin the master chef. You guys thought I was just playing off the food theme of that article, but Hamlin really is the master chef. 

 

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According to multiple sources, Pro Bowl tight end Jason Witten has a broken rib but he hopes to play Sunday against the New York Giants.

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by TheHeat on Oct 28, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, why don't we just go ahead and broadcast it to the Giants.

Wanna tell them which rib it is too? That way they’ll know exactly where to take their shots if he does play. We need to send our staff to the Bill Belichick seminar on injury reports.

by MuchMadden on Oct 28, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Options

Does the coaching staff now just shut him down for the week? I realize how winning this game would really change the outlook on this season going into the Bye, but think about the potential downfall of losing our leading receiver and one of the most important offensive threats we have by allowing him to further injure himself in a game in which we are already critically undermanned.

Before anyone responds is a fuss, consider the fact that we are currently a half game behind the Redskins in the NFC East who are playing a certainly upset Steelers team. Should we drop this game, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us maintain that gap with the Skins going into the Bye where we regroup, come out healthy and make a push for the division.

Keep in mind, as of today the Giants have only played 1 NFC East team and have already gone through their Bye. Their schedule is absolutely backloaded and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them drop atleast 4 of their last 9 games seeing as they play 7 of the top 10 teams in the NFC. We could really use this game, but the risk of not having all the pieces in place to make a serious post-bye run outweighs the upside of winning this game for me.

by Cowboy Faithful on Oct 28, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup..just heard it also

It’s going to be 50/50 whether he plays. They could shoot him up with pain meds on Sunday so he can play, but I have a feeling they will keep him out to give him two weeks to recover for the Redskin game.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 28, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope they do keep Witt out.

The hits that he takes this week could really hurt his season.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 28, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamlin was on ESPN First Take today

and basically said he expects Pacman to be back.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 28, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard the same thing from T.O.

I guess those guys must be buddies with the Commish and have inside info that nobody else has.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 28, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh he is coming back....

count on it, especially with all the injurues at CB.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 28, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

only if the Commish reinstates him

sure Jerry will take him back foolishly, but Goodell is the one that has to make it happen. He plays God with Pacrat’s life right now, not Jerry.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 28, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is getting reienstated Terry.. give it up already...

Well find out in 2 weeks…

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 28, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you have the ability to read Goodell's mind?

thats interesting, didn’t know that.

Pacrat getting reinstated=Newman being franchised=Spencer starting over Ellis

see a trend?

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A blind man can see it Terry...

Newman….I was dead on with him. I said he would start breaking down and shazamm….big contract, 30 yrs’ old and he is fallling apart. Big mistake giving him a big contract given his age and now becoming injury prone. We could very well take a bath on his contract. Let’s hope not

Spencer has caught the injury bug all of a sudden. He will replace Ellis next year. Ellis looks real old this year..say bye-bye to Ellis after the season.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

you’re really funny Boyz. You can spin it any way you want but Newman wasn’t franchised, as you predicted and Spencer isn’t starting, even when healthy, as you predicted.

BTW, if anyone is injury prone on this team it’s Spencer so getting rid of Ellis would be stupid because there is no depth of any kind at OLB.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you think Ellis will be starting next year your crazy

He’s gone or will be moved to a lesser role. He is old and it’s showing this season. I would be all for drafting another OLB to backup Spencer next year or even sign a FA.

Newman should’ve been franchised….and it appears now, that would’ve been the correct decision based on what he has done or not done this season. Especially now seeing what Jenkins and Scrandrick can do. We grossly overpaid for Newman whether you want to believe it or not.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis is coming back..

Especially since Spencer continues to miss time..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Oct 29, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always predicted Spencer would be starting by his 3rd year

You predicted he’d start this year…big difference and if he keeps getting hurt, yes Ellis will be the starter next season as well.

The decision to sign Newman long term was the correct one by Jerry because his injury to his groin was a fluke injury, it wasn’t caused by him being old, thats simply not true.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said we wouldn't re-sign Newman

I believe you threw out a bunch of “count on it”, and “bank on it”. You have yet to be right on any prediction.

I guess Newman is old and broken down because he’s missed a couple games last year and a few games this season, but Burnett and Spencer have just “caught the injury bug”.

You are the one that needs to give up the constant Pacman vigil. Worry about the guys on the team, and not a recidivist who may or may not be re-instated after 4 games.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Oct 30, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 30, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...and we will see how that works out

I said we should’ve waited another year and franchised him. Right now, I would say I was right on point with that statement. If you look at it now it was a bad decision to give Newman a contract extension. it could be premature, but he is showing signs of breaking down.

For our sake let’s hope i’m wrong because we are going to take a bath on his contract for the next 3 or 4 years. Right now he is on his way of being another Anthony Henry. In another year or two if could very well be.

I commend Jerry for resigning his own players, but with Newman, I would’ve waited at least one more season. This deal could be another Roy Williams. We all know Jerry jumped too quick on that resign….

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 30, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Never Landed on the Moon!

Hey, conspiracy theory time. Does it seem odd to anybody that a day or two after he got hurt, Romo was like, “I wanna play next week,” and then all of a sudden he is out 4 weeks?
My conspiracy theory (which I don’t truly believe, but intrigues me like the one in the title of the post) goes like this:

Tony is ok. tony wants to go, because that is the kind of player Tony is. Jerry (aka God) sees this as an opportunity though. We have several key players injured, and are not playing “inspired” football. Last year we peaked during the middle of the season, while the Giants peaked at the right time.
 Inside Jerry’s head:
 “I bet if Tony doesn’t play, we can still win one of those three games, still making it to the bye week at over .500. Then some people may count us out, and we’ll be the comeback team, not the cocky, has-all-the-talent team, and, after the bye, we can start revving up the machine to win a playoff game. The return of the starters will light a fire under this team’s butt, and they will start playing with passion and heart, and get me another ring!!”

Me: "We got Roy Wiliams in a trade today." My Wife: "What does that mean?" Me: "Well, it at least means that there are two poeple playing for the 'Boys now with the same name."
A few hours later: My Wife: "If our next child is a boy, what would you want to name it?" Me: "How aobut Roy Wiliams?"

by HEpennypacker on Oct 28, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It could just work out alright.

All these backups getting considerable playtime should really solidify the team as a team. When the playmakers come back, they’ll be able to build upon the backups’ performance.

Best to be healthy in this back half of the season.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 28, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happened to that Pacman story about the officer omitting details

Remember seeing some reports about investigations about the officer’s report, but nothing else.

by mlibbey on Oct 28, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sit Witten

The Giants game is going to be a Cowboys scrubfest anyhow, so don’t risk aggravating the rib.

Let’s line up the guys who are good to go and see what they can do for us. Go play.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Oct 28, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think fans will be highly disappointed

in Bollinger as well if he ever gets into the game Sunday. Brad might be over the hill with nothing much left, but Bollinger was a street FA for a reason, he’s not good either.

Lets face reality here, the offense isn’t scoring more than 14-17 points no matter who is under center and believe me, 14-17 points is being extremely generous.

The Cowboys need at least 2 scores by their defense or ST, or we’re headin’ into the bye at 5-4 and really after all these injuries, I’ll take it and so should you.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 28, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stanback

can throw a pass.

Just saying.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Oct 28, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I vote for Bollinger and Aggressiveness

Put me down as voting for Bollinger. After watching Brad Johnson for the last two weeks, it is painfully obvious that Dallas has zero – and I mean ZERO – threat of getting the ball downfield either via the pass or the run. It might have been possible that this style of Brad Johnson offense would have been somewhat effective if we had Felix Jones out in space and Johnson hitting the wide receivers in stride on short crossing routes; alas we have neither of those. That renders our other threat, the power running game, feeble and irrelevant. It is an offense that leaves Dallas with about a 1% chance of winning this Sunday on the road against the 6-1 defending Super Bowl Champions.

So, while it is unlikely that Dallas will have success with Bollinger throwing the ball downfield, at least it does have some potential for success. I would rather go with a low probability than a 1%/no probability. I would rather go down fighting and taking our shots than having a replay of last week’s offense.

This game is almost in the loss column here on Tuesday. We truly have nothing to lose. Let’s go for broke. I believe the Cowboys need to come out with a very aggressive game plan on both offense and defense. Start the first offensive series with Bollinger throwing a bomb to Roy Williams. Then have him throw another to Owens. If the passes are incomplete or picked off, so what! At least we would be serving notice that the defensive game plan of bringing nine guys in the box and all eleven within five yards of the line of scrimmage will be threatened. And who knows…..maybe the game starts with a few big plays in Dallas’ favor and the momentum shifts. Let’s see the halfback option. Let’s see Crayton and Stanback in the shotgun a few times and also taking the end around. How about an eight man blitz? Fake punt? Check. Fake field goal? Maybe. Go for it on fourth? Check.

In an earlier thread, TimSchultz36 said "Yeah, Bollinger could preside over a 45-7 loss, but the point isn’t to try and lose gracefully, but to give ourselves a chance to win." That’s exactly how I feel. Let’s pull out all the stops. It’s a long shot but it’s the best card in our deck this weekend. Losing 17-3 is the same as losing 48-21.

Oh yeah, one more thing – if we are behind 31-0 at halftime, then I’m all for resting the few stars that are left. No sense in running Barber, Ware, TO, Witten (if he even plays) out there. It would be a shame to lose another critical player in a game that had become meaningless.

by Cowboy Louie on Oct 28, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

quite honestly

I’d rather see Crayton and Stanback operate out of the shotgun the entire game than have either Brad or Brooks run our normal offense.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 28, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree

The only downside to your argument is if he just doesn’t have the offense down as much as he needs to. Other than that, no way (in my mind) Brad can win this game by dumping off to Barber. The Giants have seen this movie and it’ll probably ebd up getting MBIII hurt along with the rest of the Pro Bowl roster they used to have.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 28, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1000

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Oct 28, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quincy Butler's back

Signed him off of the Saints’ PS. Had to release Darren Stone to do so.

Link

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 28, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm kinda torn on this too...

i figure brooks can’t be any worse than brad. but i’m struggling to believe he could be any better. the main thing is whoever we play at QB can’t turn the ball over, we hafta have an efficient running game and we need turnovers. we don’t win under any other scenario….

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by Tuna Helper on Oct 28, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think thats why Brad will reamin the starter

The coaches have more faith in him not to turn the ball over than Brooks as neither guy is going to light up the scoreboard.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 28, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he'll remain the starter because

this coaching staff changes direction about as fast as a glacier. So a dynamic move like this – right or wrong – will just never happen. But if Brad gets pinata’d in there, I do expect the hook.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 28, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brad the Bus Driver

I think the bus driver approach has at best a very remote chance to win on Sunday. Only with offensive balance will our running game be effective. It is almost impossible to have an efficient, effective running game with Brad Johnson at quarterback. Even with our great wide receivers, there is simply no threat down the field because Brad Johnson cannot throw it that far. The defense can stack 8-9 guys against the run. Somehow, we must achieve balance on offense, or at least the threat of balance. Achieving that balance is more important than being turnover-free. We could easily replicate the Tampa game plan and score 10-13 points and not turn over the football. Unfortunately, that has almost zero chance of winning this week.

Dallas cannot fall into the trap of playing ultra-conservative Brad Johnson football, hoping emotion and turnovers create a close game with a chance to win at the end. The Giants are simply too good and we are playing on their home turf. The only way to win this particular game is with a high-risk, aggressive game plan using a quarterback that can and will throw the ball deep, with gimmick plays mixed in. Bollinger is the only guy left that can implement that game plan. If we get blown out, so be it. Better to go down fighting.

Perhaps most importantly, I don’t think I can sit through another frustrating game of watching Brad Johnson’s complete incompetence wasting our talented wide receivers. Keep this up and I will personally reverse the declining stock price of Miller-Coors.

by Cowboy Louie on Oct 28, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admit

watching Brad run the offense is very painful and agonizing as a fan to endure, I can only imagine how the players themselves feel.

It would be interesting if someone could secretly tape T.O. and hear what he mumbles underneath his breath every time Brad throws a ball over his head or 5 feet in front or behind him.

I’m actually shocked he hasn’t gone off on Brad yet during the game.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 28, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's actaully been an impressive leader during this time

I hope he can keep it up. By now I would have been in the grill of the whole O-line, Garrett and Johnson.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 28, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will lose if Brad is under center.

But we will only probably lose with Bollinger under center.

At least there is a chance with Brooks. He could throw 3 picks but, he could also throw 2 long TD’s on broken plays. If he does throw 3 picks who cares, we would lose anyway with Brad. At least there is the possibility of a big play with Bollinger. And at least the Giants have to defend the whole field.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 28, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Were losing regardless...

I hate to be so negative, but whoever is under center not named Romo and now with Witten probably not playing were toast!! I just hope we can survive this game without any more injuries.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 28, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're Going

To start Johnson he has played 2 games n Bollinger has played 0, they won last week, he didn’t turn it over (although a few passes should have been picked). If you start Bollinger, than the very little rhythm the offense had is lost, he moves around better, but our blocking has been awful so it really won’t matter. he hasn’t played at game speed yet, and the Giants D plays fast, very fast. SO they will start brad and they will take the bad with the mediocre. Our defense has to show up and if they do like they did last week, we’ll have a shot. Barber has given the Giants fits when they play, so the plan will be give it to Barber, check down to barber, screen to barber. 1 Special teams/ defensive play can change the game, and that’s what we’ll hope for. If we turn it over, were done. If we can maintain good field position Nick Folk might keep it close n that’s all we can ask for.

They don’t play the games on paper, and in a rivalry anything is possible. We’ll be ready to go, but we have to keep it close.

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hole in its roof so God can watch his favorite team play

by iCowboy on Oct 28, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to the game

On Sunday. I’m dreading it. It’s going to be ugly there if we get steamrolled.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 28, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way we win with Brad or Brooks as QB is going to be if the Defense and ST and score some points for us and if our QB can get the ball to our receivers in a position to rack up some YAC.

Oh and we gotta sit Witten. Much more important for him to be healthy for the rest of the season than gut out a game that we are probably going to lose anyway.

i hope vujacic gets hit by a truck hauling stray cats that claw his eyes out before using his skull as a brood den.--kalone

by JamesR on Oct 28, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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