Cowboys are the subject of much debate
I finished charting the Film Review for the game against the Bengals but won't have time to write it up until later today/tonight. Look for it then.
In other news, the dominant theme of everybody writing about the Cowboys after Sunday's game is how good are the Cowboys really, are expectations too high and when is a win good enough? It seems that everybody has an opinion. Even the players seem kind of split on this issue. For instance, here's Bradie James:
"I come in here on a Monday, I'm trying to enjoy our win, and people come in here beating us up," James said, referring to the media. "Really, it's tough. Right now, we know, with us having so many expectations, the only people we can really make happy are the people in this locker room. That's it. And I'm happy.
Then there's DeMarcus Ware:
"A win is a win, which is good, but you can't be satisfied with the way we won," said outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware, who recorded another sack Sunday and now has one in the last eight games, dating back to last season. "There's a lot of stuff we need to work on."
I guess it depends on your personality. Some fans are happy anytime we win and see it as the ultimate goal for that week. Kind of the survive and advance theory. Plus, the team is 4-1 and that's pretty dang good. The other side sees the win as a good thing but focuses on the overall growth of the team and how well they're playing. Are they getting better or regressing? And how does this look for the team's chances down the road? It's an interesting debate. And by the way, I don't think the two sides are mutually exclusive. As I said before, the reality is more complex than just a "right or wrong" way of thinking.
Todd Archer looks at the statistical side of things, here.
Tim Cowlishaw examines Wade Phillips' role in the whole thing.
Mac Engel goes with the Pros and Cons method.

On the injury front, Terence Newman's injury is a mystery right now and may be a lingering problem. Kyle Kosier isn't ready yet and Roy Williams is getting closer, but don't expect him to play this week. Stephen Bowen was inactive last week as was Pat Watkins. I guess we'll know a little more when Wade talks to the media on Wednesday.
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T-New
Sounds like he’ll be inactive for the Cards game. They might as well sit him for the rest of the month and hope the injury will heal with rest. It would be nice to get him back before the Midgets game on Nov 2nd.
Kosier could also be back in time for that game as well.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
I said it for the Bengals game
Bet the over..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Yes,
sit his ass down until he is right.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 7, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Brandon already expressed some things I was thinking about
in his great post earlier, but…
I agree these perspectives aren’t mutually exclusive. I must have posted the comment “ugh” about half a dozen times during the live game thread, and I was definitely less elated after the win than I have been with some other games.
But overall, with all the other stuff that counts for entertainment around the game, why I really love the Cowboys is simply to watch them play. I enjoy watching them play when they lose, though not nearly as much! And I love watching them be dominant and efficient and play really well, but at the same time I have to admit it is sometimes more entertaining to watch a close game. I’d rather watch them win a blowout than lose a close game, but I’d almost rather watch them win a close game than win a blowout. Does that make sense? It is just more entertaining when the outcome of the game is in doubt to the end, when they fight back or forth, or hold off a comeback, or make one themselves. The Eagles game this year was one of the most entertaining games I’ve ever watched, and last year the Bills game was one of the most frustrating to watch during the game but it also kept me on the edge of my seat and when we pulled out the Folkin’ win I was more elated than other games where we won easily and played much better.
And when they lose or especially if they win in less than perfect fashion, while I recognize that there are problems and mistakes and things that need to be corrected, I really try not to let those things get out of perspective with the main point for me, which is to just enjoy watching them play. Because of that, I guess I’ll always be the homer, glass more than half-full fan, and that’s the way I like it!
Amen Demarcus
I’m in the “Room for Improvement” camp.
The last two seasons we could see the team’s Grit and Determination in both wins and losses. This year is more of a MEH reaction.
The attitude by DeMarcus the one to me that means he’s hungry for more than win. He wants to dominate. That attitude has to be contagious. You can see it revisit team defenses like Baltimore and Tampa Bay…..it’s obvious in younger defenses like Tennessee and the Giants that would supposedly be lost with Osi and Strahan.
I hope Bradie is just saying that.
If not, that should explain to him why he’s not a pro-bowler. Isn’t he a team captain? He needs to follow DeMarcus Ware’s example and get fired up about the team he is leading being sloppy, not just try kick back and be happy that he won. I guess that’s one big difference between him and Ware. But, hopefully he’s just saying that, and is actually fighting mad. I’m sure he, Wade, and Romo are actually spitting flames when the media isn’t around, and spending their free time studying tape and getting ready for next week.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 7, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i am sure
You give the media any ammo and they will run with it..
If they want to spend a day enjoying the victory, I am fine with that. As long as they know that win was ugly and C performance..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Spencer and Elllis
Need to get to the QB..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
+1
Spencer needs to get it going this week. Ellis hasn’t had a sack since the Iggles game, where has he disappeared to.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
Chris Myers' take
He sides with Brady James in that the media’s expectations might not be fair these days but he also points out that with the stars on the Cowboys roster, the attention is going to be there.
Can we steal
Dick Lebeau?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
I think Cowboys fans as well as the media
at least on a subconscious level, try to compare them to the ’90s teams and thats simply unfair.
The goal for this team is to be the best team in the league, not the greatest team of all time.
Expectations are certainly too high IMO. We can win a SB without being dominant in every game. The last 3 SB winners are all proof of that.
In Romo we Trust
talented teams underperfroming
San Diego
GB
Minnestoa
New Orleans
Seattle
Jacksonville
The fans of the teams menitioned above would trade their teams record and performance with ours in a heartbeat.. NFL is tough, that is why out of 12 playoff teams there are 5 new teams every year that make the playoffs..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
I can't believe I'm gonna defend the Cowboys
but 2 weeks ago the Giants squeaked by the Bengals in overtime. This week they DESTROYED the Seahawks 44-6. Football’s a funny game. All these media folks who are turning on the Cowboys now b/c they haven’t looked as dominant as they all made them out to be will be right back on the bandwagon next time the ‘Boys blow someone out. I hate your team, but I recognize that they are extremely talented and are gonna be one of the last teams standing at the end of the year (hopefully with my Giants). Can’t wait to face you guys in 4 weeks, should be a great battle.
indeed
I may have missed it, but when the Bengals took the Giants to overtime, I didn’t hear the media/fans all aflutter that the Giants are soft, lacking leadership, lacking focus, lacking the will to win, whatever. There seems to be such a double standard with the Boys, despite the fact that the Giants are the defending champs. But every team has its good days and bad days (even the Pats in the regular season last year came very close to getting beat twice by mediocre teams, not even counting the final regular season game vs. the Giants). A not very good team on a good day can beat or at least challenge even a great team on a not so good day. That’s what’s so exciting about the NFL.
It is going to be a great matchup when we meet.
The Giants are in an easier spot
They’ve proven themselves champions, and they get the hall pass. The Cowboys, on the other hand, have somewhat of a reputation. I’m not saying media attention is fair, but it’s not entirely undeserved.
31 teams may dream of the Superbowl but only one team, the Dallas Cowboys, expect it.
by accidental innuendo on Oct 7, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
They proved themselves LAST season's champions
As best I can tell, they’ll have to win again to be this season’s.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Exactly
Your past actions grant you present leeway, or lack thereof.
31 teams may dream of the Superbowl but only one team, the Dallas Cowboys, expect it.
by accidental innuendo on Oct 8, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I also think part of it
was that despite winning the SB last year, a lot of people didn’t think the Giants were necessarily an elite team coming into this year. I mean, they were usually ranked outside the top 5 in power polls (which are meaningless, but still), especially with the losses of Strahan, Osi, and Shockey. So to a lot of folks, even in the normally ruthless NY media, whatever the Giants are doing right now is pretty much gravy, they’re outperforming expectations. On the other hand, the Cowboys were pretty much named the heir apparent after the Pats went down, and I guess people got so used to the Pats dominating everyone last year that they expected someone to do that again this year. It’s nothing shameful to win close games, as long as you win them.
Also, with the NY media, I think they were too busy crucifying the Mets for being in the midst of yet another collapse to even worry about the Giants winning a close game.
The NY Media
I didn’t hear the media/fans all aflutter that the Giants are soft, lacking leadership, lacking focus, lacking the will to win, whatever.
You definitely would have heard something if the Giants had Lost that game in overtime….The NY media would be calling for Coughlin’s head amongst other hysterical opinions.

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