What happened and what's next for Pacman Jones?
This couldn't happen at a worse time for the Dallas Cowboys. Not that there is actually a good time for this to happen, but if it was the offseason, then it wouldn't hurt as bad if some action is taken by Roger Goodell. And if Terence Newman wasn't injured, possibly for much longer than initially thought, then it wouldn't hurt as bad either, if some action is taken.
Yes, I'm talking about this newest incident involving one Adam "Pacman" Jones. So far, we don't know a whole lot more than he was involved in a fight with one of his own bodyguards at a Dallas hotel. Of course, even that is being doubted by one of his lawyers, but the preponderance of evidence is on the side of a fight taking place. Why? Because the police were called and one of them is confirming that much of the story.
No one was arrested and no one will be charged in connection with the fight late Tuesday night at The Joule, an upscale downtown hotel.
[snip]
"Someone from the business called police," Dallas police spokesman Cpl. Jerry Monreal told The Associated Press. "Police arrived and spoke to the parties after they had a verbal argument. Both parties agreed to leave, and they left."
Adam Jones has been cited as one of those parties. So even that much could lead to the hammer coming down from the Commish. Here's where it gets even worse. If the bodyguard was one of the babysitters hired by Jerry Jones to watch over the talented but troubled cornerback, then it's possible he could automatically be in violation of the Personal Conduct Policy. I loath to use Pro Football Talk as a reference, because they are hit and miss in their coverage of rumors, but here's what they say according to sources.
Per a league source, the "bodyguard" with whom Jones fought in the bathroom of a Dallas hotel was an off-duty police officer who has been hired by Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to babysit Pacman.
If this is true it could really force Goodell's hand.
The open question is whether the bodyguard was someone whom Jones had hired, or whether the bodyguard was retained by the team to shadow and/or babysit Jones. If it’s the latter, Jones might have committed an automatic violation of the Personal Conduct Policy since, technically, the bodyguard is a co-worker.
So what was Jones doing at the hotel?
According to the sources, Jones was attending a party hosted by the rapper Ludacris, who is in town shooting a movie with actor Mark Wahlberg.
And why did he get into the alleged fight? More from PFT.com.
The source says that the problem started because the babysitter popped off to Jones' female companion. Jones, who had been drinking, then started up with the guy, and it culminated in a scuffle.
Jones, we're told, had marks on his face at practice on Wednesday.
Before anybody starts with the whole macho "I would fight him too if he said something to my girlfriend" idiocy, stop and think a second. Sure, if I was out with my girlfriend and someone started popping off to her, and I couldn't handle it without resorting to fisticuffs, then I would throw some haymakers, too. But that wouldn't end with me getting fired from my job. I'm also not a professional athlete who has a specialized skill who is getting one last chance to play the game he supposedly loves. On top of that, if he gets into trouble again he's likely squandering any chance of millions upon millions of dollars, the future security of his baby daughter and all kinds of other things. So no, it would take a hell of a lot more than someone saying some random comment in that situation to get me to throw away all that. They're just words, and if your brain can't function on a level high-enough to understand that, then you deserve what you get.
Now that was a long rant, but here's the shorter version. If what's being alleged actually happened, then I have no sympathy for Jones. Do I hope he gets suspended again? Heck no, we need him right now. Is a fight that sounds pretty minor really worth suspending him? Normally the answer is no way. But this isn't just any ordinary player we're talking about.
I guess all I can do is hope Goodell has some sympathy for Jones (fat chance) and by extension, sympathy for all Cowboys fans.
But listen to this from the Star-T's article referenced above.
Jones apparently got in a violent scuffle with his bodyguards. According to a source, it's not the first time Jones and one of his bodyguards have come to blows.
If true, the guy has zero self-control.
Of course, his lawyer is spinning fast and furious.
"I'm not satisfied anything has happened,'' Robinson said. "I perform due diligence on rumors anytime there is an allegation made against a player I represent, and at this point I can tell you that I'm not satisfied that anything occurred.''
Well, the cops seem to think something occurred, and so do patrons at the hotel, so I'm pretty sure that line of defense isn't going anywhere.
Sometime soon, Jones will be making another trip to New York to explain himself.
The expectation is that Jones is likely to be called to New York to explain his conduct to Goodell, a source close to the player said. Jones' reinstatement is contingent upon his ability to conduct himself appropriately.
For the sake of the Cowboys season, I hope this is all an overblown incident just because the name Pacman is involved. But I'm having a hard time convincing myself of that reality. Probably about as hard a time as Jones will have convincing Goodell.

Oh by the way, there is other stuff going on.
An Arizona paper has whole list of players and things they hate about the Dallas Cowboys.
An opinion that the Cowboys have the best offense in the NFL.
Our old friend, The Breerman, takes some shots at the Cowboys.
The news on Terence Newman's injury sure doesn't sound good.
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This isn’t about if you’re a cowboys fan, an eagles fan, raiders fan, bears, fan etc… This is about being a fan of the NFL. I always thought Pacman should have been barred from the league seeing as he is responsible for someone’s paralysis. But that’s besides the point.
The fact is pacman is scarring the NFL with his actions; and if Gooddel was serious about cleaning up the NFL (which I don’t think he really is) he should banish this piece of crap back to the hood where he belongs.
by Joe_D on Oct 8, 2008 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty objective view....coming from an Eagles fan....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Oct 11, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope
This overblown.. I wonder how fast the Commish will move on this.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 8, 2008 11:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
This is ridiculous. I didn’t realize the whole “attacking a co-worker” angle and Pacman shouldn’t be in these situations, but I don’t see how a suspension is warranted for this. Oh well, we knew we were signing on for this behavior from Pacman and the media.
by grapejoos on Oct 9, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Why was he even there? I thought Jerry told the guy to keep a low profile.
by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 8, 2008 11:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
"I'll give anybody a loan here if you bet against the Cowboys." - Jerry Jones, with sarcasm dripping from his voice.
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by silverblue5 on Oct 9, 2008 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
They don’t let him go to a beach volleyball event, yet he goes to a Ludacris party and gets drunk??? “allegedly”, hmmm…..
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 9, 2008 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mickey has his take on
dallascowboys.com
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 9, 2008 12:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I understood Breer's point of view, however...
…to compare Wade Phillips to Ray Handley is ridiculous.
"I'll give anybody a loan here if you bet against the Cowboys." - Jerry Jones, with sarcasm dripping from his voice.
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by silverblue5 on Oct 9, 2008 12:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take it from someone that knows a little something about the law
If an act of assault had occurred and there was injuries regardless of whether criminal complaints would be signed by any party a police report would have been generated. So something tells me the police broomed this assault, in which wouldn’t be a wise move considering the security person was an off duty police officer or it wasn’t a serious matter at all. Given the high profile of Pacman and the media attention he attracts a incident report would have been made and left to the victim, meaning the security officer to sign his own complaint for assault. Normally, in minor assaults where there is very little injury, unless the police observe it first hand make an arrest. That’s left to both parties involved and usually it’s one word against the other in court.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 9, 2008 12:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'mma wait-and-see...
i mean, i’m still skeptical about suspending players who’ve been ARRESTED as opposed to players that have been CONVICTED, ‘cause according to that standard Kobe Bryant would’ve been indefinitely suspended by the Commish if he played in the NFL while he was going through his trial. But I understand the Commish wanted to send a message and he seems like his been effective at doing that. But, still, I can’t see him suspending Pacman for something he WASN’T EVEN ARRESTED FOR. I mean, I realize it’s a zero-tolerence policy, but that seems like a bit much.
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by Tuna Helper on Oct 9, 2008 1:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pac Is Done!!!
How about we think about next year when we get TJ Whosyourmama? Championship!!!
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Oct 9, 2008 1:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if it was a fight so what?
I dont even know why thats I crime. Two men exchange fists and neither want to press charges. Should be end of story.
And being drunk is not a crime.
But you know sheriff Goodell will jump the gun like always. I wish Tag’s was still in charge.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 9, 2008 7:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any incident would be considered a violation of the Commisioners Personal Conduct
Policy. So he could be suspended. This could go either way. I hope for our sake he doesn’t get suspended because he is and has been our best CB this season. Without him we are going to be in major trouble. We would have to depend on two rookies and Henry who looks every bit of 32 for most of the season. Newman won’t be back until December and who knows how good of shape he will be and how much rust he will have when he comes back.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 9, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One word: OVERBLOWN!
If it was Anthony Henry or Kenny Hamlin, you would’ve never heard this story. If Pacman dropped a deuce and it clogged the toilet, you’d here people screaming that he vandalized hotel property. I agree with most of you, while he shouldn’t have been there in the first place, neither party pressed charges. If a police report isn’t even filed, come the hell on, commish. Boys will be boys…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 9, 2008 7:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I read the Arizona stuff about hating the Cowboys and how to “whip them boys.” Wow…that’s the journalism I’ve been yearning for…Real original stuff. I could’ve written those articles in one sentence. We’re jealous and we rewrite what other people already have for the past 3 years, and we’re even more pissed that our golden boy 1st round pick QB can’t start when a back-up undrafted Joe-Shmoe (or is the correct vernacular Joe Six Pack, now?) can be a top 5 guy in two years…Cowards. You think #4 and the Jets scorched your defense? You ain’t see NOTHING yet. You better hope we don’t have a secondary at all, because you’re not gonna be able to match our offensive fire power. Let’s play with some BALLS this week.
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 9, 2008 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s because neither Anthony Henry nor Ken Hamlin have Pacman’s history of trouble. Pacman is under a microscope, he knows he is under a microscope, and he still pulls this crap.
Was the security guard hired by Pacman or by the Cowboys? If he was hired by the Cowboys, Pacman assaulted a fellow employee, which I’d guess violates league policy, and Goodell could suspend Pac whether the law acts or not
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 9, 2008 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ought to read the post befor commenting so I don't repeat stuff
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 9, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Smith...
He attacked his own team mate…league did not suspend him or fine him…team did..i am not sure the league would have acted if the team did not
by thejanusman on Oct 9, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Steve Smith have Pac's History?
Fair or not, Pac will be treated differently going forward due to his past
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 9, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still
The guy is on film punching a co-worker, if that is not a suspend able offense then this isn’t..
I say Pac-Man and the guy were wrestling and it got a little heated, but know one was hurt. Just a couple of buddies have a good time. How can anyone, but a person involved say that isn’t the truth..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 9, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Smith does have a history
Not criminal like Pacman’s, but this wasn’t the first time he has gotten in trouble for attacking a teammate. That’s why Carolina suspended him.
Frankly, considering the lack of charges/police report, I don’t see how this warrants anything. But obviously, Pacman is a special case.
by grapejoos on Oct 9, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Smith
Didn’t get arrested 50x and get invovled with a shooting. Get a god damn clue!
by Joe_D on Oct 9, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Panthers immediately took in-house action
before the NFL got involved. I’m sure if it had been left to Goodell, he would have done something about it.
by Dave Halprin on Oct 9, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get rid of this jerk
Time to focus on the players who are ready, willing and able to help this team go the distance. Punkman Jones is not in that group.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Oct 9, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am SURE this will get blown out of proportion...
however, my guess is:
- he was there
- he got into a fight
- police where on scene
and I would think that is PLENTY to get him suspended from the league permanently. We had low risk / high reward when we picked him up and as long as we get that pick back we need to get rid of him and move on… if not this time because of a technicality, when?!?! with his status he should not have even been there….
We do get the pick back, right, it might be a round later, but we get it right????
as for coming at a bad time, yea… how could you forsee Newman’s injury?!?!, but at least it did not happen around playoff time of when we are pushing for the playoffs…
oh well
by stephena on Oct 9, 2008 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the thing that really sucks
is that low risk was starting to yield a high reward til this crap came out…for being “God’s favorite team,” is doesn’t seem like he’s looking out for us to much…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Oct 9, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Idiot
I dont care what your reasoning is, if you are an alcoholic, dont drink even one drink. If you are on your last chance to make millions, dont do anything stupid. Nothing, not even something small that has a chance to get blown out of proportion. I think they should let the body guard and Adam go at it one on one in front of the whole team to settle their differences. From what it sounds like the body guard will kick his a$$ and that might teach this idiot a lesson
by NamingRightsOnSale on Oct 9, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys determine Pacman scuffle didn't break rules
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3634226
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Oct 9, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like it'll go away
But still as a fan of the team, I hate this kind of crap. Lead story on BSPN, and then they have to pull out the list of his past trouble, it’s an embarrassment to the franchise.
This is a wake up call to anyone who believes Pac has changed. The little trust I had that he’ll make it all the way through the season without a more serious incident is out the window. Don’t count on this guy, he still doesn’t get it.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Oct 9, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Week 10
The Giants have set an example — suspend him for NFL week 10
I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys
by stxshooter on Oct 9, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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