Austin possibly out 2-4 weeks

too bad, he was hitting his stride.

Crayton needs to step up his game. We’ll be okay with the 49ers and Seattle. Hopefully he can come back earlier than 4 weeks.

by torchindefenses on Nov 18, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jimmy Smith

WTF AUSTIN!?

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by Lowdaddy on Nov 18, 2008 10:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

That is absurd

As much as I like him, he is really close to being considered injury prone.

by quincyyyyy on Nov 18, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

injury prone.....I suppose we should cut him after the season like everyone wanted to get rid of injury prone Stanback ???..

LMAO………

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OMG

What is the deal with our fragile young receivers??

by hiafex on Nov 18, 2008 10:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

are you serious?

these guys are professional atheletes who work out for a living. most (probably except linemen) are in better shape physically than most of us can only dream of. football is a physical sport. injuries happen. to call them fragile is laughable. i bet any of these “fragile” guys could beat the crap out of you, even with the injuries they have now.

hurd got hurt early in the game with an ankle injury that required surgery. he came back for the 2 minute drill because he was the only one that knew the position. could you run around for 2 straight minutes with an ankle that required surgery? doubt it.

stanback has been told his shoulder requires surgery yet he is trying to play through the pain because of other injuries to recievers and he sees an opportunity. do you think you could lift your arm with shoulder pads on to make a catch with guys running full speed trying to knock the crap out of you? doubt it.

austin. its his second knee sprain. nothing he’s done of the field suggests he’s soft. he’s a tough, gritty player who busts his butt when he’s on the field. perhaps a little unlucky, yes. weak and fragile, no.

plus, i doubt any of them would use the term “OMG”

by yahurd on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by Terry on Nov 19, 2008 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+2

This just sucks plain and simple.. He is a beast, but football is a contact sport.. The injury bug will not leave.. So who will be returning kicks?

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by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe T. Choice, Jenkins or Amendola from what Mickey said

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I like Danny

But if he muffs one like in preseason ball, I’m stabbing him haha. Let Jenkins do it. He had a couple sick returns in college…

by AikmanNailedMySis on Nov 19, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Jenkins

Is too valuable to be back there.. Amendola?

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by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

we are serious

We all know how “in-shape” these guys are. That has nothing to do with them being fragile.

Stanback hasnt made many catches this year as far as i can remember.

The minute Austin is given any kind of responsibility he goes down with an injury. That is the definition of injury-prone.

by American Fan on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

co-sign

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by silverblue5 on Nov 19, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we all know what hiafex meant

You should probably get a cold beer with your lunch and chill out…jeez

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by accidental innuendo on Nov 19, 2008 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just glad your avatar isn't the Todd in a banana hammock.

by Mandmeisterx on Nov 19, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Believe me

I gave it serious consideration. But who knows what the future holds, eh?

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by accidental innuendo on Nov 19, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i am chill....

i just think some people are too quick to judge. austin and hurd are both in their 3rd year. they were both on the majority of special teams with a few snaps on the regular offense sprinkled in or their first 2 years in the league. on special teams, going a hundred miles an hour down the field running straight to someone who is running the same way towards you. neither one got hurt. this year, they both had an opportunity for the number 3 position and both got unlucky. getting hurt one of three years isnt injury prone.

now, if you said, terry glenn was injury prone or fragile. maybe that wouldnt be too far off. he was consistently hurt throughout his career. but i still dont think anyone elses body could have faired any better. he had 10+ yr career in the nfl where average career is some where around 4-5 years.

by yahurd on Nov 19, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You took my comment way too seriously

The “OMG” part implied sarcasm. It was just a comment on how bad the injury bug has been biting us this year. You could take a chill-pill instead of lambasting me for what you think I was saying.

by hiafex on Nov 19, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+3 ...this is a tough man's game....the whole "injury prone" thing is sooooo over used and an oxymoronic comment..

The game of football is a highly physical game and you are “prone” to injuries on every single snap of the ball…As I myself have had multiple bone fractures, torn muscles, and ligiment damage to prove the case…Was I injury prone ?? no…..I was damn football player…it happens…it’s the breaks…your lucky if you don’t get injured…

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Never knew

I never knew he was actually hurt in the game. Star Telegram reported it first and I wasn’t sure I read it right.

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by thelandryhat on Nov 18, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

well that sucks

just when we thought we were getting healthy

by TARHEEL PAUL on Nov 18, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

well

You would think with Terrell Owens, Roy Williams, PAtrick Crayton and Jason Witten this wouldn’t be a big deal. But it sort of is because all it takes is one clutch 3rd and 7 play, right?
Hopefully Felix is back for this Sunday

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by thelandryhat on Nov 18, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Errrrrr.....

Blast it!!!!

by Philosopher on Nov 18, 2008 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This poor guy is snakebit

Reminds me of Mike Sherrard. He can’t stay on the field…

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by 5Blings on Nov 18, 2008 11:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

he reminds me of Mike Sherrard....good comparison...

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Down to 3 healthy receivers

I hope Felix comes back soon.

by troysboys on Nov 18, 2008 11:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Stanback should just get put on IR and then we can activate Amendola

by quincyyyyy on Nov 18, 2008 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Stanback is worthless....

sorry….. but he will be lucky to be on this team next year. The experiment may be over after the season.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yup

Just never healthy enough

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by accidental innuendo on Nov 19, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

lol....what a joke...the dude puts off surgery for the sake of the team and now he's worthless...

Austin should be cut too….right ?…injury prone right ?? two injuries in the first 10 games ?…missed over half the season so far ..right ??..get rid of the bum if he can’t play through a ligiment strain….please…

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

damn....

good thing we got crayton…if crayton gets hurt, we got problems…then it’s stanback, who i like but doesn’t inspire confidence like austin and crayton… the injury gods have struck us again…if i need to sacrifice a goat, i’m down to do it…

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by Tuna Helper on Nov 19, 2008 12:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

goat's blood...sweet necter....it happens.....

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Bet You, Wade Is Unaware Of This News.

This really sucks bad, Austin “3:16” was my offseason pick to become the 3rd WR -which he did in fact become. Yet i was getting heckled by all the Hurd and Amendola fans on DMN.com and TDCS.com from Draft Day to the preseason.

I hope “Stone Cold” Miles Austin has a speedy recovery. Get well, “3:16”.

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by TheHeat on Nov 19, 2008 5:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

This hurts

but with Crayton and Hurd still on the roster it won’t changed much on offense. It’s KO returns that concern me.

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by dunkman on Nov 19, 2008 6:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Mickey on DC.com said

They might have to use T. Choice or Jenkins on kickoffs. Another possibilty is promoting Amendola from the PS because he can return kicks.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hurd on the roster ??...wasn't he put on IR ???

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hurd is on IR

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 20, 2008 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I've said it before and I'll say it again,

some of these injuries really concern me about our training staff and our strength and conditioning coach. Perhaps I’m just paranoid.

by Mandmeisterx on Nov 19, 2008 6:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's a ligament.

nothing that training can do about that. if it were a pulled muscle or something then yeah.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Nov 19, 2008 6:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would agree, but

the team has been really healthy in years past. There do seem to be a lot this year, but I think it’s just the law of averages catching up with the team as much as anything else.

by grapejoos on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1....we were relatively injury free for awhile....when it rains...it pours..

I think we can get by without our #3-4 WR for a a few weeks to a month or so……What’s he got about 10 receptions on the year ? …TO or RW….then we got problems…we can live with a reserve on the sidelines for a while…

I actually prefer the 2 WR 2TE sets we’ve been running anyhow…

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

You are paranoid.

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by APerfectStar on Nov 19, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what play did he get hurt?

by juniorb on Nov 19, 2008 6:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

It Was The Play Right Before Romo Connected With Bennett On That TD Pass.

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by TheHeat on Nov 19, 2008 7:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hurd

Talk about disappearing…

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by KDP on Nov 19, 2008 6:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hurd

we need to give him another preseason game like a while back where Romo just throws it to him over and over, then trade him. we’ve got to try to get something out of him more than just wasted roster spots. if MA and Stanback are passing him on the depth charts (which MA had, at least) it might behoove us to make a move when his stock is up a bit more.

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by bulldog jeeper on Nov 19, 2008 7:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hurd

You all realize he’s on IR, right? And Stanback probably should be on IR. This Austin injury is definitely a hit to the depth. But as others have pointed out, if we can’t make do with TO, RW, Witten, Crayton and Barber, then we have much bigger problems.

by Ridgelake on Nov 19, 2008 7:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

ridgelake

there you go bringing facts into a good extended rant. you have a good (very good) point, as it’s difficult for him to rise on the depth chart when he’s out for the year. HOWEVER, he had been jumped by Austin in the preseason depth chart.

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by bulldog jeeper on Nov 19, 2008 7:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and do you realize.......

he’s out for the season with his contract up at the end of the year. i doubt the cowboys are going to sign him to a new deal, considering he’s at best the 5th reciever on the depth chart right now to show case him in a preseason game next year.

as much as i hate to admit it, his days in a cowboys uniform are probably over.

by yahurd on Nov 19, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not only that ...

But next year will be his 4th season, which means he’s a “veteran” with minimum salary requirements – around $520,000. That’s another reason why he may not be here. Owens and Williams are #1 and #2. I think you go Austin and Crayton as #3 and #4. No way a #5 receiver gets half a million in salary.

That’s probably where you see either a rookie WR from the 2009 draft of a guy like Amendola make the 2009 roster.

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by Raul Villaronga on Nov 19, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 Raul....on those facts alone...Hurd better go find some sheep elsewhere...

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 yahurd ...highly doubtful you'll ever see Hurd in a Cowboys uniform again...

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"some of these injuries really concern me about our training staff and our strength and conditioning coach"

Mandmeisterx

It’s the same group of conditioning coaches when the team hardly had any significant injuries the last few years.

by troysboys on Nov 19, 2008 7:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

spraining a ligament has nothing to do

with strength and conditioning, just like a broken bone, the game is violent and it happens.

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by Terry on Nov 19, 2008 8:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The law of averages is catching up with the Cowboys

Eventually, guys were going to get hurt playing this game.

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by Seanrude on Nov 19, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They'll be fine

As long as no other receivers go down. I don’t even want to think about the ugly possibilities if that should happen.

by gee-roj on Nov 19, 2008 8:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

RW - 11

Good thing JJ pulled the trigger on the RW – 11 trade. Imagine the hole we would be in without him.

by eightball on Nov 19, 2008 8:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

it sounds stupid but this is karma catching up to us for all those relatively injury free years

by MdFan24 on Nov 19, 2008 9:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Knees are Knees

It’s not a training issue, it’s a bad fortune issue. Austin is a strong, physical receiver and they have a tendancy to get hurt more. Look at the 130 lb Marvin Harrison, who played injury free almost forever. Do you see Austin catching the ball and immediately diving down to avoid contact? No, he’s a kick returner at heart and won’t go down until he’s brought down.

by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Nov 19, 2008 9:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps it's time to put Austin and Stanback on IR

Bring up Amendola and see if what’s his name from TC is still available to put on the p-squad. What the heck was his name?? Oh yea, Todd Lowber.

After some research it appears Lowber has been signed to the Dolphins p-squad. Doh! I thought he had major potential, oh well.. Now there’s no way we can put Austin on IR. I just hope it’s more along the lines of a 2-3 week injury so we can have him back for the last couple games.

by sublimezg on Nov 19, 2008 9:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

i think da Fins signed Lowber a few weeks ago

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by silverblue5 on Nov 19, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Austin's injury is a 2-4 week thing

If Dallas is still in da playoff hunt by then, they have to consider the possibility of keeping Miles on the active roster.

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by silverblue5 on Nov 19, 2008 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully, it's closer to 2 rather than 4

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by accidental innuendo on Nov 19, 2008 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by silverblue5 on Nov 19, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Can anyone answer these two....

1. How is Felix doing? Di he re-agravate his injury to the point where he’s out another 4 weeks or he’s ready to play? I assume his condition is worse than what we’re being led t believe……when everybody is quiet about it, it usually smells like $hit.

2. Is the NFL going to say something about Pacman this week? Are they going to say at least when are they going to make a decision?

by ManTab on Nov 19, 2008 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The PacRat

I just heard that the decision on A. Jones will be made by the end of the week. If the commish reinstates him, do we really want him back?

by eightball on Nov 19, 2008 9:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

NO! it will affect our team chemistry

Its my understanding there were many players upset with him about this, bringing him back could ruin our locker room chemistry which now seems on track.

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by Terry on Nov 19, 2008 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no

nononononononono

by Realist Larry on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jerry said this week they would welcome him back...

Mark my words Terry….He will be back if he get’s reinstated. We could use as many healthy CB’s as possible and we need someone better than Crayton returning punts. I would also use him on kickoffs now since Austin is injured. If anything he is better than Henry…

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not disagreeing that Jerry will do that

but the question posed was should we, and my opinion is no.

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by Terry on Nov 19, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't change anything right now other

than move Henry to the 4th CB spot and roll with Newman, Jenkins and Scandrick as the starting three. Let Pacman compete with Henry as the #4 and use him on special teams. Right now we are an injury or two from being in serious trouble again the reason bringing Pacman back makes sense.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Has Pac ever returned kicks before?

It takes a different skill set than returning punts. I still think that if he isn’t going to be one of our starting CB’s, then Jenkins should be back there when Felix isn’t. Granted, I think he should start opposite Newman, but if he isn’t, you might as well use his talent in some way.

by Mandmeisterx on Nov 19, 2008 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He was the KR in Tennessee

He has a 26 yard average on 63 kick returns.

by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 19, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

our chemistry is back after squeeking out a 4 point victory ?

sure seems like we can use an upgrade on special teams…both return and defend aspects….

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yes, off course, why not? you have nothing loose, if he gets suspended again, we're right back where we are now, no worse.

by ManTab on Nov 19, 2008 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

simple as that ManTab....we would be no worse that where we are now by taking him back

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll go a little bit further....

Cutting Pacman now when (or if) he’s re-instated would be like cutting T.O. wen he had his overdose or whatever the hell that was, or when he cries about not getting the ball enough, etc etc.

The cowboys knew what they were getting into with Jones and that’s why we drafted 2 (not 1) cornerbacks in the draft.

by ManTab on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

its not the same thing

T.O. is one of the best WRs in the league, Pacrat is average at best as a CB.

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by Terry on Nov 19, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Is he really?

Are you sure T.O is one of the best in the league? I have nothing against him and consider him a very good receiver but this year you could argue that he’s not exactly a great one anymore (numbers looks very crappy), the second int on the washington game was a ball he didn’t catch very well and popped off (he never catches it clean)……Pacman when not in trouble was one of the best in the league as both CB and punt – returner. He’s only 26 or so also which is an advantage to him. if we where to cut players becvause tey get into trouble, Michael Irvin wouldve never happened. C’mon….

by ManTab on Nov 19, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Pacrat is average at best as a CB.

you clearly aren’t watching the same player. check the stats again. he’s top tier. he’s just a moron off of the field. bring him back.

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by bulldog jeeper on Nov 19, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

don't mind Terry....when he hates a player..he just hates a player....he really hates the person, not the player...cuz the player was our best CB for the first month of the season.....but try convincing him...good luck..

and when he loves a player, there is no better player out there…..very cut and dry…….gotta commend him…….

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

lol…so true….

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 20, 2008 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The PacRat

I do not see him being a long term solution. I think we should cut ties and let Jenkins and Scandrick gain experience.

by eightball on Nov 19, 2008 10:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I've always been a pro-Pac

But this is the only concern. Since his tomfoolery, Jenkins and Scandrick have come along quite well. I’d rather both stay on the field.

In-YOUR-endo

by accidental innuendo on Nov 19, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

I take Pac back without a second thought. I also drop him down the depth chart and look at him as nothing more than a backup for the remainder of the year. If he can prove himself and stay out of trouble the rest of this season and all the way through training camp and pre-season, then I’d allow him to compete for a starting gig.

by sublimezg on Nov 19, 2008 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I Have The Solution

Bring Pacman back and make him the 4th WR.

Just kidding but I think the reason Miles was starting to show something was because RW11 was on the field. I’m sure Crayton will do fine. I do however think that if Stanback’s injuries are preventing him from being the 3rd or 4th receiver than he should be put on IR and a healthy body like Amendola should be brought up.

by staubachfan on Nov 19, 2008 10:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting debate on pacman.

One thing to consider is CB depth and the opportunity he would create to move henry over to a safety spot in certain packages. I like the idea of the young CBs playing more, but we used henry effectively in certain packages at the beginning of the year. He can relieve some “liability” at safety in certain cases.

Pacman also showed himself to be a hitter in his playing time. Although he didnt do anything dazzling, he did show that he is not afraid of contact. I daresay we can use peope like that.

I’m not sure his presence would seriously disrupt team chemistry, but im not sure immediate and unconditional welcoming back to the team is the answer either.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Calling Martellus Bennett

Get your hands ready, the ball will be coming in your direction.. He is another player that creates mis-matches..

Good thing we know Austin a quick healer..

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by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

since this stated as an Austin thread, here is another good debate (DMN is actually good for something on occassion):

What to do about Austin in the offseason, he will be a RFA.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 10:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

sign him with

Way too much potential!!

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by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a no braniner...sign him.....

Hurd is a UFA and will be gone. Crayton will probably be demoted to the #4 and won’t be resigned when his contract is up. Austin is the future and will be the #2 when TO retires.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sign him with what?

how much?

to tender him, you will pay him anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 million for next year. to sign him long term, he likely wont cost that much per year, but he’ll cost some money. maybe crayton money.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

no where near Crayton money....2nd round tender...less than a million per...

He has no body of work to demand large dollars, and was a undrafted rookie free agent……I see him getting about 5 million over 3-5 years….he will be signed…and we are all set at WR for the next 3 years at least…

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BTW,
Talking Cowboys reports that Erik Walden was waived by KC. He was picked by us in the 6th round this year.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

what a wasted pick that was......sign him to our practice squad...if nothing else..

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How long does Austin last after getting some playing time?

this is his second knee sprain this year.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm not worried about that

He is a tough player and when you play special teams as well as WR your chances increase getting injured. Hopefully, we can find someone else in the future to do kickoff returns.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 11:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

ummm....we already did....Felix Jones and Stanback...

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not counting on Stanback being on this team long term

and I don’t think they want to roll with there #2 RB as the long term solution on kickoff returns.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 20, 2008 12:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he'll be on the team long term

he’s too talented

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 21, 2008 8:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Its easy not to worry about it, he is down the depth chart and making little money. Now, we’re going to be talking making alot of money and moving up the depth chart. You’ve got to have a guy who can stay on the field.

this is the same concern with burnette, who is similar in the sense that he has found a role, but is rapidly becoming “injury-prone.”

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jerry will have to bite the bullet on Austin

That Crayton contract seems a tad much now.

In-YOUR-endo

by accidental innuendo on Nov 19, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It was a tad too much "then" as well....

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Austin will not cost alot of money and we would need to sign a WR.

Hurd won’t be back. Crayton, if he is lucky may be here one more year after this one. I’ll tell you what he won’t get a new contract. Stanback is showing no signs of becoming a legite WR. So that leaves RW and TO who may only be here another year or two. Austin has the potential of being #2 Wr on this team for a long time…..Hurd, Crayton and Stanback are not.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 11:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Crayton is locked up to a long term deal. he is not going anywhere.

Austin will cost AT LEAST 1.5 million to tender next year. that will keep him around for one year.

he will likely cost AT LEAST crayton money, maybe a little less, to keep with a long term deal. I can see miami making a run on him if we dont tender him. I wouldnt be shocked to see other teams sniff around him too.

the one thing that might scare them off is his seeming propensity for nagging injuries.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

easy decision

Tender him and move on..

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don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Craytons contract is cheap...... Cutting him won't be a problem

Crayton will have a $1 million base salary in 2008 and $1.5 million in 2009. He receives a base salary of $2 million in 2010 and $2.5 million in 2011. In the final year of his contract, he can earn an additional $1 million if he reaches certain incentives.

1.5 mil next year as the 4th Wr is not much at all. He probably won’t see the 2010 numbers and could be released. Paying him 2 and 2.5 Mil as a 4th WR is a bit much.

Austin will probably get anywhere from 2 to 2.5 a year at best. I’ll take that all day everyday for a future #2 Wr.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

cutting him accelerates his contract.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

in other words, if you cut crayton to make room for austin, you accelerate his contract and pay for it all on the cap, even though he is no longer on your team AND you pay for austin, who has not shown an ability to play alot without injuries this year.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

His base is low to begin with..

He won’t see past 2010, especially not when he could earn another 1 mil in 2011. He is a little long in the tooth to begin with. 1.5 or 2.5 mil is nothing so don’t get in a panick. Like I said, we have to resign Austin because Hurd is a UFA and won’t be resigned. Stanback..IMO will never amount to anything but a utility player at best in this league. Our 4 WR’s next year will probably end up being TO, RW, Austin, Crayton and someone else.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 19, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cutting a Player Only Accelerates the Bonus Amount

Maybe this is what you meant but cutting a player does not accelerate their remaining base salary into the one year it only accelerates the remaining of their signing bonus into that year. I don’t know what his bonus was when he signed.

by staubachfan on Nov 19, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

whatever SB money is left plus any guaranteed money left will accelerate too, at least thats my understanding.

My longer point, you dont create cap room by cutting a player and accelerating his remaining money to your cap. Nor do you create cap room by signing a player to a big deal on very little evidence that he is worth it and the hope that he can eventually become a #2 WR.

my guess is that austin will be tendered the minimum. that gives the boys another year to decide what to do and protects their time investment in him with a 2nd round pick if someone else takes him.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

NO reason

To cut Crayton doesn’t make sense he is stable and cheap..

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by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Crayton isn't going anywhere....

and Austin hasn’t shown me anything that deserves 2+ million per year…

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by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not next year, but he won't see his 2010 contract..bank on it....

He is not gettting 2 mil as a #4 WR.

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 20, 2008 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BTW, the only “no-brainer” on the team is DWare. I am heavily leaning to calling Colombo a close second, but DWare is clearly a must.

No one else is IMO.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm shocked D Ware isn't locked up already.

I thought that was the no brainer. Also, I thought getting guys extended was the reason Romo, Bigg, et al reworked their deals?

by Mandmeisterx on Nov 19, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jerry was saving a spot to sign a WR maybe

Plus he still has another year under his rookie contract. This coming off-season he’ll get a new deal.

I only hope there is some room left for Colombo. I would put him at 2nd most important vet to re-sign.

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by APerfectStar on Nov 19, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 ....Columbo is clearly our biggest FA resign...we can not lose him...period...

I believe Jerry is going to wait until after next season to resign Ware….There will be no cap in 2010…and Jerry will give him a base salary of 30 million in ‘10…….then a drop off to about 10- 11 million per after that…….to protect against a cap being reinstalled…..don’t worry about Ware. He’s not going anywhere..

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

if we are assuming Ware gets done after next season.. We need Columbo..

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by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

deals have been reworked to make room for deals already done, not for deals that will be made in the future.

dallas has wiggle room, but not much. the margin for error has shrunk on re-signing your own FAs.

the good news is the dallas track record is pretty good. the only questionable in house FA deals are crayton and roy williams (i think roy is gone next year BTW). crayton was a little steep, and we likely wouldnt be saying that had he caught a certain pass in a playoff game last year.

crayton stays on the field though. austin has not shown that he can, even in limited playing time.

the boys will need to be REAL careful with guys like austin and burnett.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I am hoping

and praying for a cap free 2010 season. JJ has been planning on this and the ‘boys are in deep trouble if the league works out a cap structure for that season.

by gee-roj on Nov 19, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and Dware has one more year. he will command about 35 mil in guar. money to be locked up further.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 11:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wmillion,
i’d guess he’ll be tendered at the minimum for next year.

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 12:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

IN OTHER NEWS!!!!

DMN blog reports Felix Jones IS practicing!!!!

by THEjarhead on Nov 19, 2008 1:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

just dropped a tear..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Nov 19, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How special will this O be once Felix and Austin get back......

damn….it’s a who’s who of play makers……..I seriously doubt we’ll lose another game this season…..

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Nov 19, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs