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Cowboys pummeled by Giants 35-14; limp into the bye week

 

Giants 35 - Cowboys 14

Heh.

Seriously, like I'm going to write anything substantive after that. After the game, it was reported the Giants voted Brad Johnson MVP of the game. Congrats to him.

Oh yeah, we're in last in the NFC East. Woo hoo!

All I ask is you keep it clean in the comments, especially the new guys, who must not know about the no profanity rule. And New York Giants fans, you're welcome to post, but don't cross the line. You beat the crud out of us, we're not going to sit here and have it done again.

 

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Witten

It said he played today but had no receptions… did he try to go and couldn’t?

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Nov 2, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it was futile having him play with a broken rib

was never going to be really effective, cant really block or extend to catch a ball. I have broken four different ribs in my life, and let me tell you, it’s very painfull, to move, reach or even breathe

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 6:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Broken 3 myself...

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Nov 2, 2008 6:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's the curse of Joe Buck....

I am just finding someone to blame this on….this guy cracks me up though..agreed our team is bad..but hearing him talk was an insult to the art of commentating…

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Buck is a tool

and not a very sharp one!

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 6:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You Mean...

The Hard Knocks Curse

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 2, 2008 8:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fire Wade

The team has obviously either quit on him or refused to buy into what he is selling.

Fire Wade.

Do it now, while there is still time.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Nov 2, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get Garrett in there

Make Garrett the interim HC and re-evaluate it at the end of the season. Make Campo run the defense…

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 6:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something is better than nothing...

Well…you need a jolt….getting Garrett in with an incentive that this is his job to earn if the team performs will be incentive enough…..

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 6:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't seen anything that proves Garrett's genius

I’m sorry, I know everyone in the NFL lauds him as a mastermind but I just haven’t seen any evidence.

by Cavazos on Nov 2, 2008 6:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed...

But some of the shortcoming of the team can be directly alluded to lack of discipline in practice….bad tacking…penalties…which directly points to Wade and his style of coaching….this isn’t about what he brings…but more about what is wrong right now

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 6:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garrett Hasn't Shown Me He's a Competent Offensive Coordinator

Once he gets that down, he might be ready to to an HC job.

by kindablue on Nov 2, 2008 6:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd Bet...

Garrett would kick Jenkins sorry behind all the way back to the locker for not showing up on plays….

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He Needs to Worry About Putting Together

a decent offensive game plan, look to mix up his playcalling, learn how to make adjustments and properly utilize the talent he has.

Whether he yells at Jenkins or not is minor in the scheme of things.

by kindablue on Nov 2, 2008 7:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garrett Makes All That Money...

And not a single TRICK play in his repertoire(sp).

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 2, 2008 8:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the problem

the problem is JJ guarenteed JG that he would be the next head coach… so on some level it doesnt matter if he is ready, or if he will be good.

i hope JJ fires wade so we can get the JG experiment going ASAP. if it works, great. if not we can fire him too and get a coach in here that gives the team a chance next year

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is why fans don't coach

You want all this wizardry from Garrett with QB’s and other offensive players who haven’t even spent that much time together working on the BASICS. It’s ignorant to think you can just install this wildly creative game plan with players who are not starters or haven’t developed timing on the standard routes and blocks.

What is interesting is why nobody is talking about why we should stick with Wade…

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Nov 2, 2008 10:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well put 5blings

I agree with you. However that is not to say that this team being successful can’t be done.

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 10:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok...

Then why is it every team in the league has used trick plays while we have not yet? I mean we got Crayton and Stanback, who were both QBs in college and they don’t get involved in anything that would catch the oponent’s defense off-guard.

The VaGiants pretty much foreknew almost every offensive play that was called. Are these players not smart enough? Is that why Wade had to simplify the defense for the lack of intelligence on the defensive side?

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 3, 2008 12:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One Positive Note

Tashard Choice runs hard, hits holes like the winninglottery ticket is on the other side and shows good burst.

He should get more touches….

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Nov 2, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea But...

Garrett isn’t that bright enough to use him.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 2, 2008 8:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't expect to win a shootout

When you bring a squirt gun to a gunfight

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Nov 2, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wasn't exactly a shootout

unless you count all the times BJ shot himself in the foot…..
BWAAHAAAHAA!

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is what happens when you dont get a legitimate backup

been saying it for two years, Brad was never going to get it done, Bollinger is nothing special at all, never understood that signing. Thats the fault of your GM, Mr clueless, jerry Jones

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Neither of those guys were coaching with the most highly regarded roster in football

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Nov 2, 2008 6:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if Garrett is suppose to be the headcoach in waiting, then its time to fire Wade now

this team just doesn’t care, its soft and quits when punched in the mouth and takes on the character of their headcoach, so it’s time to get rid of the soft influence on this team and that’s wade Philips

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 6:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frankly

I don’t see the team responding to Garrett either

by accidental innuendo on Nov 2, 2008 6:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not big on Garrett either but put the interim label on him and see what he can do in the second half

atleast then you’d have an idea of what he can bring to the team as a headcoach, if it doesn’t work, then Jerry will have to give up the reigns of this franchise, take a back seat and get Cowher in here.

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 6:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I just posted the same thing above…

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 6:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

i said the same thing too

if we are stuck w/JG we might as well see if he is any good

and if he isn’t get past that

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now would be the time to give Wade the axe...

…esp with two weeks ’til their next game.

"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson

www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]

by silverblue5 on Nov 2, 2008 7:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, we all knew winning this game

was an extreme long shot, nobody should be surprised by this at all, it was expected. If the Giants came into Texas Stadium with David Carr and other key personnel out, we’d kick their azz too, no big deal.

We’re a game above .500 and very much in the the wild card race. So what if we don’t win the dvision, look where that got us last season.

With Romo, the Cat, Kosier, and Newman back I see us making as serious run in the second half. Its not how you start, but how you finish.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't remember the exact numbers but...

Pac had like 11 pass deflections before he went down and the entire team (including Pac) had like 17

by quincyyyyy on Nov 2, 2008 6:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, how many hours a day do you listen to Galloway?

I’m not defending Pacman, I just really want to know how often you listen to him.

ACU Wildcat Football
9-0, #2 in AFCA D2 poll, #2 in D2football.com poll, #1 in Super Region 4, Scoring 50.2 ppg, Allowing 16.1 ppg

Bernard Scott: 195 carries, 1494 yards, 19 TDs rushing
36 catches, 647 yards, 5 TDs receiving

by SaltyDawg on Nov 2, 2008 6:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jerry was lobbying hard for Goodell not to suspend him

the second his suspension is over jerry will personally put a uniform on him

by quincyyyyy on Nov 2, 2008 7:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Did you guys really expect the cowboys to win this game? I think the majority of you are overreacting. If we start Bollinger (who, IMO is a million times better than BJ) and the offense can prevent the defense from being on the field for 20 minutes in the FIRST HALF, this is a whole different ballgame.

By the way, I hate being right -

If there is any plan to play Bollinger at all, he should start. The worst thing you can do to a QB is to put him in after the starter threw a couple of picks and the opposing defense is fired up and protecting a lead.

by Billito on Oct 28, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Billito on Nov 2, 2008 6:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mike Jenkins No effort

Was it just me or did anyone see Wards touchdown and Mike Jenkins pretty much let him go through as a gift. He did not make an effort at all our team has absolutely no heart and it is because of our coach. Bill Parcells would have been all in Jenkins ear but no Wade will just blame it on himself like usual and not set a fire inside of anyone. Get me Bill Cowher right now. Pay him 30 million I dont care but do it JJ.

by rioplayer7 on Nov 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw that too.

But thats not on Wade. Jenkins has got to have more pride than that.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Nov 2, 2008 7:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A rookie mistake and I'm sure he will never do that again

Besides that he was our best CB today,

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that lack of effort has nothing to do

with being a rookie, just gutless.

Anyone on this blog could have caught that INT, that was a Larry Brown special.

BTW, he was burned pretty good by Burress, but Plaxico dropped any easy TD.

Scandrick played better, his guys caught nothing.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 8:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scandrick was not starting Einstein..

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Nov 2, 2008 10:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we'll run the table I have faith

we have a really good team as long as romo gets healthy. I didn’t watch the game because I had an inkling this would happen, but with all the turnovers we had on offense I don’t think you can really blame the D for giving up 35.

by quincyyyyy on Nov 2, 2008 6:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right Quincyyyyy

The D is not to blame for this one, they wore themselves out in the first half trying to over come Noodle arm Johnsons horrible turnovers and lack of first downs. This could have been a different game with Bollinger in there from the start and a set of balls on our coaching staff.

by Billito on Nov 2, 2008 6:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there would of been NO difference in the outcome

whether Brad, Bollinger or Romo played today. Dallas was NOT winning this game, period

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 6:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not true Deke

Johnson lost the game for us, put us in too much of a hole, Romo would have put up much better numbers for sure.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

very funny

Romo only has 5 INT, thats better than a lot of great qbs in this league.

Even if Tony has a few TO, he also produces TDs and lots of them, something BJ and Bollinger cannot do.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess you have selective memory

I guess since the QB rating you like to throw out all the time which doesn’t include those numerous fumbles Tony gives the other team, you dont seem to count those

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No but even a dumba** like Flo "El Matador

can count the wins. Romo ain’t the problem here. Nice try. Are the cheerleaders next on the list?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Nov 2, 2008 8:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and there is a reason they don't count

not the qbs fault, thats on the OL

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 8:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably would of fumbled five times

because this offensive line wouldn’t be much help pretecting him especially with Flozell, “the turnstile” Adams collecting his paycheck every week for doing nothing

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that one of your "facts" you love to spout off

If so, I think your wrong about that.

Romo makes all the difference for this offense.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes all the difference does he

Since the Green bay game last year, tell me what Difference has Tony Romo made.. explain those FACTS to me

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so he's one game above 500 then

not too impressive, but as you like to say Terry, when the team wins, its Romo, when they lose, it’s everybody elses fault

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Romo's numbers speak for themselves Deke

if you can’t see that then you’re either blind or a hater, take your pick.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't waste your time Terry

THis is pure “Deke time”, whenever the boys are struggling or coming off a bad loss he likes to start posting about what a know it all he is and how much the cowboys suck. Moments like these are what he lives for so save your breath while you, I and the rest of the true fans know that if BJ doesn’t put the boys in such a hole, there was certainly a chance for victory.

by Billito on Nov 2, 2008 7:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at the offensive production

We went from over 300 yds a game to less that 200 yds a game. No threat to throw downfield without him.

Those are called FACTS.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As Many Opportunities...

As this team had against the VaGiants, Romo would have taken advantage of that. How many times were we in NY territory and came away with ZERO points? Too many to cause us to lose the game.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 2, 2008 8:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Game

Since I live here in NY, and am a Cowboy fan, I have alot of friends that are Giant fans, and I predicted with them that they would score around 30-40 points. What we would score I had no idea since it was really a question of QB, and since Wade decided to play Brad the entire 1st half, we pretty much gave the game away there. No way the Giants beat us if we cut down the penalties and Turnovers, even in this game. I like Wade, and i think he is a great defensive mind, but even I will say “enough is enough” with the laid back attitude.

I didn’t blame Bollinger in the 2nd half for his turnover as much as Garrett, because there was no reason to go to a short pass in that situation. Bollinger should have been in there earlier any way. He at least would have given us some semblance of a chance in the game.

I agree with thejanusman, we need to make Campo our D-coordinator (since we were dumb enough to let Capers get away) and scrap the 3-4 and go to 4-3. OUR TEAM HAS THE DEFENSIVE PERSONNEL TO RUN THE 4-3 EXCELLENTLY AND ONLY AVERAGE PERSONNEL IN THE 3-4. I’m not venting, just saying what I feel. I also said in a post last week that Tashard Choice is a touchdown waiting to happen, but I was also right in saying that the coaching staff is slow in figuring out things, so of course he wouldn’t play much.

The only way the Cowboys will truly start winning games like this handily is if they go back to the 4-3. Where we really that bad on defense when we scrapped the 4-3 in favor of the 3-4?

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Skins game will be the defining game for this team

If they come out and play well and beat the Skins, we’re going to the playoffs and make some noise there.

If we continue to play poor and lose, then the season is over and all the doom and gloom will be justified.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree 100% Terry

If we lack enthusiasm….and play lackluster against the skins….We’re toast.
It all comes down to the O-Line in my opinion.
If they can’t give Romo time……We won’t do much.
But hey…we made it to the break above .500 so now its time to get serious and go on a run.
Hope Tony doesn’t show up Rusty at Fed ex field

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate Joe Buck (substitute F for the B)

Arrogant a-hole.

Let me point something out here. Yes we are in last in the East, but we still have a 5-4 record. We still have Key players returning after the bye week. Romo, Kosier, El Gato, T-New. Those are not some scrubs that won’t help.

Also note that when they come back, this offense will have their full compliment of starters back on the field, PLUS Roy Williams as the #2 WR. Nobody has seen how good this offense will be yet.

A good offense that can put up points and control the clock takes a lot of pressure off the defense. The defense plays well when they can rest and not have to start defending an opponents drive that starts at mid-field. We also will have T-New back and hopefully healthy.

A lot of talking heads are making a big deal about Dallas being 5-4 and behind teams that are 5-3. Well guess what, Dallas was 5-3 before this week too. A lot will change over the next couple weeks, so stay strong Cowboy brothers and sisters, this season is not decided by a long shot.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any team over .500

at this point in the season has a great shot at the playoffs, anyone who says otherwise is just flat out wrong.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't worry Deke

I’ll remind you when the Cowboys prove you wrong.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Deke = chicken little

I had this argument with you 2 seasons ago and you said the same thing. But Dallas did make the playoffs.

Why do you have to assume the worst Deke?

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was that the time you told me the Eagles wouldn't win the division

I believe it was, it wasn’t about the cowboy making the playofs, nice try though

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

I just said the season wasn’t over and it was stupid to give up at the midway point. Never said anything about the Iggles.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, I can remember

when you said we couldn’t win with Romo in 2006

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

again Terry, try to get it right, tod you numerous times, but again, you have selective memory

I said it was stupid to throw Romo in the second half of the Monday night Giant game, which it was, instead wait until the bye week and give him two weeks to prepare,

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no thats not what you said

you’re the one with selective memory, you said we couldn’t win with a rookie qb and we weren’t making the playoffs. Your exact words.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He never admitted he was wrong then

So I’m sure he won’t admit it now.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed Deke

We are last place in the division. With the way this group is playing there is no way they go on a run Romo or no Romo….

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wanna bet on that

This last place in the division stuff is meaningless. The Iggles are 5-3, Dallas is 5-4 with a win against them.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take off the roase colored glasses this team stinks...

We were bad even when Romo was playing.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, they stink with no QB

Believe me, I don’t have roase-colored glasses on, or even rose -colored glasses on.

If this team didn’t have a shot in my opinion I’d admit it.

I’m just not a total pessimist like you and Deke.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any team stinks

without their pro bowl qb and no capable backup.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unless they have a good head coach

personally, i detest Bill Belichick.

but objectively, i think there’s a reason that he’s one of the best head coaches of this modern era.

look at how he’s managed to keep his team winning — even without their MVP/Pro Bowl QB.

i actually applaud King Jerry’s draft picks and off-season acquisitions for 2008, but one important detail he overlooked was backup quarterback. and as fans, we’ve witnessed it the past three game.

"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson

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by silverblue5 on Nov 2, 2008 8:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

amen to that

BJ and Bollinger can’t be much worse that Cassel

Belicheck finds a way to win.

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As Long As He's Not Playing a Good Team

Patriots have a ridiculously easy schedule, they’ve lost to every single good team they’ve play this year. Including tonight.

by kindablue on Nov 2, 2008 10:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fair point

but we lost to the rams w/BJ…

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 10:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This team is not doing anything the rest of the way

they are too inconsistant. They need to be much more than that because the rest of the division is showing no signs on slowing down.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now I know they are going to the playoff

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So if we win in 2 weeks...

Are you going to stop with the not going anywhere nonsense?

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heck no. Do you know what kind of a run we must have

to have a chance? What makes you think the way the OL and DL are playing we have a chance. Do you see what the rest of the division is doing. Open your eyes man!

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, great minds think alike

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 8:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You guys are dreaming..

not this team, not this year…not happening..

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm glad you feel this way

given your track record on predictions regarding this team.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 8:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well my Newman prediction is right on point

Old and injury prone two years running. Mark it down as one of the worst contract extensions Jerry has given out. You can add Williams and Flozell to that list…

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10-6 gets a wildcard

So going by that, they need to finish 5-2. It’s not that hard to figure out that they have a small margin for error, but it’s a very achievable record.

What is the rest of the division doing that’s so wonderful? Other than the Midgets, the rest of the teams are within stiking range.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 8:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well for one thing 2 teams are only going to make the NFC EAST

bank on it. If you think otherwise your living a pipe dream. The Giants are 7-1, probably the division winner and if the Redskins win tomorrow they are 7-2. we are 1-2 in the division and 3-4 in the conference…

Anyone listening to the Ticket now….They are discussing this now…they said were done!!!. It’s not happening with this team…

This team is a undiscplined, sloppy team and not going anywhere..

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whatever

we’ll remind you when you’re wrong

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did they say this team is SOFT with no IDENTITY

because that’s what I see when I watch this team play

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 Deke

Geeze….. a blind man can see it…everyone and their uncle is saying the same thing. We are soft and undisciplined.It speaks by our play..

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are a joke Boyzfan94

You are. I’m sorry to call you out. But you really are a GD joke.

The Ticket isn’t the gospel truth buddy.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

anyone who thinks they can predict with certainly about any team right now with half season left doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Last year at this team the Giants sucked azz and they won the SB. Enough said.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 8:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

terry

i’m glad you agree with me cause thats what i have been saying all along. We are halfway through the season and still have time to create a spark. Last year we peaked too early. This year we haven’t peaked yet. It is my opinion the best is yet to come.

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 8:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Giants were 6-2 at this time last year

It’s not this year Terry, it’s the last 14 game record and how this team has played. This eam is regressing from that win over greenbay last year. Penalties, dropped balls, turnovers, poor tackling, poor blocking, poor executuion, poor play calling, poor coaching, etc, etc, etc, it’s a broken record with this team week in and week out. There are no signs at all of this team getting it together.

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 8:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try 6-3

and like I said, there were no signs the Giants were going to turn it around either at this time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and after week 10

2 loses of their 3 were to Dallas and they never lost a road game after week one, the Giants were turned around and headed to the playoffs and as I said, the team team to beat going into the playoffs, the team I didn’t want the cowboys playing the first game in the playoffs. The Giants win because they play as a team, Dallas plays as a bunch of individuals.

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice try Terry but the division and more importantly the

conference was not as competative as this year.

It’s going to be alot harder this year.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10 wins gets you in

and with Romo, this team can certainly win 5 more games this year.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 9:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well you are in denial buddy because we are 5-4 and stink

what makes you think when we get Romo back all are problems will go away. We had these same problems before Romo was injured. Minus Kosier, this is the same OL. We have the same DL and LB’s. So, when we get Romo and Jones back all the penalities, bad OL play, lack of pass rush, stopping the run will magically go away? Dude seriously, Wake up and smell the coffee. That doesn’t go away overnight. These were the same problems we had before, but now are compacted because of Romo being out.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah they will go away

because the team will have its leader back and play with more focus and energy.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 9:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Deke and Boyzfan94

I have several different views on the Cowboys than you two do. There is nothing wrong with that, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you both come off as know-it-all’s and crap on what everyone else says if they believe differently than you. What if we do make the playoffs? What will you say then? You sound incredibly sure about something that only time will tell. I’m not saying its a shoe-in but the season is far from over. You don’t have to agree with everyone but do you even enjoy football because all you do is rip the cowboys apart and whenever something good is said about them you can’t even give them credit.

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 9:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 11:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey

easy now, we are all on the same team here

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure about that?

This guy loves to make predictions and guarantee them and they are so wrong it’s a joke. Nobody can guarantee anything.

Any fan that gives up on the team after 9 games is not the type of person I’m interested in arguing with anymore.

It’s crazy to make the statement that the season is over. I’m just being kind, really.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 11:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it might not look good now, but...

as the saying goes, “one game at a time.”

with injuries and idiocy being the great equalizer, you just never know which of the NFC competitors might suffer a major injury to a key player or sustain an off-the-field incident that causes one of their playmakers to be suspended.

still a lot of football to be played.

still a lot of things that can happen.

but i will agree that as of this moment, things do not look good.

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by silverblue5 on Nov 2, 2008 8:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What an all around sad day for us Cowboy fans

I’d cry but I’ve been all dried up since the first quarter. I need some water. Goodnight BTB brethren

by sublimezg on Nov 2, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Doom and Gloom Terry

just a hope that jerry sees the defensive scheme inability to produce an effective and feared defense, because our offense will become terrifying again, but will Jerry see this teams problems for what it is and what we have talked about her on the board- coaching attitude and decisionmaking? Jerry must do something, because we can’t have that inefficient a coaching staff- or do we?

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess mike Zimmer is having a good laugh

people couldn’t wait to run him out of here

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pass Rush

We should never leave Ware and Ellis to guard receivers….they need to be rushing the QB all the time….Giants play a 4-3 and look at their rush….

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that will never happen either

I’m sure he’s going to fire himself, thats funny.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he didn't turn the reins over to Parcells

he was still the GM and in charge when Parcells coached

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no he didn't

don’t kid yourself, Jerry has always been and will always be in charge.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we had a good draft this year IMO

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know that how

Did Jerry tell you that or did you hear jerry say that. When Jerry talks, 90% of what he says is BS.

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It didn't have to be that way Deke

The Cowboys could have easily won this game. I hate sounding like a broken record, but coaching decisions, defensive scheme, and offensive playcalling once again under-utilized our talent and has led us down this path. Yes, our offense will be back, and when our offense plays to it’s abilities, we usually win because our offense is lethal. But can you imagine if our defense was a strength of our team too?

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anthony Spencer...

Is it just me or did he wreak havoc every time he was there….we need him in there more….

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He outplayed Ellis

Ellis is not duplicating his success from last year. I would like to see Spencer take more plays than Ellis from here on out.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ellis is done like I said...

He is playing old and tired.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the issue

the issue is that Spencer has been injury prone… (see also Burnette, Kevin and Newman, Terence)

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah seemed to last year too, remember FF's and FR's

but we have never had a full roster, haha remember when everybody thought it sucked when Kosier and Newman were out? if we only knew then..

by slash on Nov 2, 2008 7:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whats it going to take for Flozell to get benched?

He can hardly lift his right arm. How can you expect to block Kiwaunuka and Tuck with one arm?

by houseofprime on Nov 2, 2008 7:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

at this point, I’d just as rather see McQuistan out there

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by hinduplaya on Nov 2, 2008 7:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The sad part is the huge contract we signed him to, hope that isn't a factor

He might be banged up, I don’t know, but his play is noticeably down.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry Brown just reported...

That Flo cannot lift his left arm….i am wondering what made them start him….i thought McQuistan was impressive in the pre-season…i wonder whether we are gonna rue the contract extension to him…

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stingers again?

He may have permanent damage there if he keeps playing

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Nov 2, 2008 7:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Dark Day was last year

When the Giants beat us in the playoffs. This game is just part 2 of the same movie. Nothing has changed because the scheme hasn’t changed. Just because you get great players doesn’t mean you’ll be better especially if the scheme is flawed. I’m not saying the 3-4 is flawed, I’m saying our defensive philosiphy with and about the 3-4 is flawed. We have the Personnel that seems to me to be a team that would run a 4-3.

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is everybody talking

about the defensive scheme…..

The turnovers killed us today…..we gave them 21 points all directly off of turnovers

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Nov 2, 2008 7:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just came back from the game

Man, it was ugly at the Meadowlands..It’s was a blood bath like I said it would be and it was worse in person. The Giants fans were as**holes like I knew they would. It was evident they exposed James in the first half on coverage. He was god awful…The OL was even worse…Something is wrong with Flozell. He was real bad. What a mistake resigning him. This team is real bad bad on both sides of the ball. We are not making the playoffs.

 I can’t believe we are this bad with this much talent. I say again, Hudson Houck is a awful OL coach. They were playing bad even when Romo was healthy. Johnson..enough said. He should be cut tomorrow. Blame Jerry for not getting a reliable backup in the offseason.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you have good view of your boy Jenkins

quit on the play that Wards scored, just flat out giving up on the play?

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 2, 2008 7:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jenkins was doing fine

Until he, and the rest of the D, ran out of gas

by accidental innuendo on Nov 2, 2008 7:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im really excited though that our young guys are playing great

Jenkins, Scandrick, Choice, Bennett, Spencer, Austin? and none are “starters” on our real depth chart so when everybody comes back, we’re going to have the pro bowlers doing what they do and the team’s going to be real tight with all of our subs playing great….and after the bye week is when RW2 is going to finally be set in with this offense and it’s right when Romo’s coming back…..

but so come playoff time when Jenkins and Scandrick are playing the nickel and dime, they’re going to be real players in there and not just back ups as is the case when we run 2 TE’s sets with Bennett, etc…

by slash on Nov 2, 2008 7:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree with this

its good that the young guys get some time

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chris Simms....

Can anyone tell me how Bollinger is better than Simms?? I would have surely loved having Simms here as a backup…..

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sims hasn't thrown a TD this year

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not the end of the world

i think it’s been said above, but once Romo and some of the other key guys come back, there’s no reason why this team couldn’t get into the playoffs. if you look strictly at the Wild Card outside of the division, the other contending teams are the three AFC South squads (TB, Atlanta, NO), GB, and Minny. with Romo and the rest back, i think the Cowboys can be better than all of those teams.

within the division, they still have one game against each team. with the way that shit usually goes down in the NFC East, i wouldn’t count the Cowboys out from winning in Washington or Philly (or obviously against the Giants at home). what makes this division so great, is that all four teams routinely win road games against division opponents. a 5-2 finish is within the realm of possibility and with four home games remaining, they’ll have to hold serve and steal one on the road (Pittsburgh, Philly, Washington – easier said than done, i know).

do i think this team has underachieved? yes. but considering the circumstances, and the Romo injury (who knew he’d be so important to this offense?), 5-4 isn’t 3-6. this team can still make a run after the bye week.

i’d wish you good luck the rest of the season, but i just can’t go against my nature. i will say that i hope they improve because i like tough, down-to-the-wire games like last year’s playoff game instead of laugh-factory games against inept quarterbacks.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Nov 2, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Abram Elam

Why did we drop him, exactly?

by JimmyJohnson on Nov 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw the INT return too

Boy…our talent evaluation really needs to be questioned

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was on our roster in training camp

I believe it’s the coach who cuts the players not the GM

by quincyyyyy on Nov 2, 2008 7:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you really believe that do you

I said at the time davis should of been cut, he was in his last year of his contract and he wouldn’t of been resigned anyway after the season and Elam can play both safety positions and played really well on special teams, has upside, we knew what Davis was, a cheap version of Roy who also cant cover

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Davis is actually better in coverage than Roy

but that is not saying much.

And I never said we should have cut Elam. I liked him also.

But back to my original point: blame the coach not the GM.

by quincyyyyy on Nov 2, 2008 7:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay Trueblue24....

How many times do you have to see Bradie James in coverage on a TE and see him get burned? or trailing a RB? If it isn’t scheme, then it is definitely coaching decisions in regards to putting the right players in the right positions to make plays. Our brand of 3-4 scares no one (face reality). All they have to do is double Ware, and the rest of the defense becomes average in a heartbeat. Our young DB’s are playing great, and I hope that is not getting overlooked by us.

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ellis too

I saw him drop into coverage more than he rushed the passer.

by JimmyJohnson on Nov 2, 2008 7:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kevin Burnett

Can he play ILB? He needs to see more time…Bradie flat out sucks…all he does is trash talk and we know how that ends…

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or Barbie

Bradie always insists he is the leader but I have no idea what he did to become the leader of the defense.

by JimmyJohnson on Nov 2, 2008 7:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

James is overrated.......He is average against the rush and stinks against the pass

That was real clear in the first half…

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Post game show on the ticket

If anyone is interested. With Norm and Larry Brown.

http://www.theticket.com/

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where do you get this stuff from

1)He doesn’t trash talk, and
2)he played really well. The TE beats him once in a while, just like every other LB gets beat once in a while.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You gotta be Kiddin...

Remember last year?? He drew a penalty for the same….there is a reason he is a marked man…

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not kidding

I think he’s fine. Like I said before, he is the defensive captain for a reason.

Name a LB who never gets beat in coverage, hell, name me a CB who never gets beat in coverage.

I guess since Roy the SS is out, now people are going to try to pin blame on Bradie’s ability to cover for all the TE catches.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mismatch...

With Ware and Ellis rushing…he is exposed in pass coverage. He is effective against the run..but i believe Burnett or Carpenter can be equally effective too….there are plenty of LB’s better than Bradie…look at london fletcher for one

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 8:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

He can play on ST and run faster than Thomas and James, but he sure isn’t a better overall LB. Not even close.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take him over Bradie all day every day at this point.

I don’t know when he contract is up, but I assure you he won’t be resigned.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 8:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

for all the picks we used on linebackers they sure don’t look that great

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 7:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That proves Bradie is a good player

Because Kitna has a screw loose.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 2, 2008 7:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah he was...Bradie is a average 3-4 ILB

and with an undersized Zach Thomas playing next to him, who should be a 4-3 LB. He needs to be alot better. There are several players on D-line playing out of position.

Two of them:

Spears: Needs to be a NT or a backup

Ratliff: Needs to be a DE

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by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

We need to draft a ILB in the off season.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Nov 2, 2008 7:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My point

is that the Defense played pretty well early but we kept throwing INT’s and giving the Giants the ball on our own 30 yard line.
I know brdie can’t cover….Maybe its not scheme but the talent?
Plus you can’t just come in on monday and say “hey guys…we’re going to ditch our whole defensive philosophy….. mid season” that would be the kiss of death for this team!
 
It really comes down to our O-Line…..A great offense makes an OK defense look great,because theres no margin for error with a high powered offense that we are capable of becoming.

But no way we’ll be switching back to the 4-3 anytime soon.
Even though I agree that our talent is better suited to the 4-3

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Injuries are a bitch

It’ll be a tough road, but this team can rebound from 5-4 with the right mentality. I’m just not sure if the personnel to provide that exists in the locker room as presently constructed.
Start reading up on Cowher, Bill in preparation for next year.

by Conjunction on Nov 2, 2008 7:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jacque Reeves

also had an interception for a touchdown- but I’m verrrry happy with Scandrick and Jenkins. They will be great players, they just need time. We need to get better pressure on QB’s

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed on those guys but Elam is a Safety.

He’s certainly better than anybody we have but Hamlin (and maybe even Hamlin).

by JimmyJohnson on Nov 2, 2008 7:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope Reeves and JJ do really well

better compensitory picks for us next year

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dissappointed in the game plan

I guess being a genius, golden boy OC is easy when you’ve got a full roster of pro bowl talent…the real test is when you don’t.

We played this game from the first snap as if there was belief by someone, somewhere that we could play straight up against the Giants with our depleted team and actually have a chance to win. I was really hoping to see something…anything different and creative before the game got out of hand. Every time our defense got us the ball on a turnover I expected to see some type of a quick hit, bet-they-didn’t-see-that-coming play to take advantage of the momentum. I thought I’d see something that would get BJ out of the pocket where the Giants D couldn’t just shoot in and play smear the queer.

I was really hoping to see the much hyped genius and creativity of Garret over these last 3 weeks but all I’ve seen are 2 losses and an offense that would probably have a hard time standing up to a college team.

Me and 3 of my buddies armed with some pizza, a case of Red Bull and a copy of Madden09 could come up with something more creative than we’ve seen the past 3 games.

Jason gets all his toys back after the bye so I guess he gets to go back to being an offensive prodigy again.

by MuchMadden on Nov 2, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Elam

is a good player, but he excells in the scheme. If our scheme is flawed, then it doesn’t matter what players we have.

Would anyone posting on this board be against a hypothetical? Here it is….

What 4 D-lineman would be your lineup at the line of scrimmage if we went to 4-3?

Here is mine- Canty, Johnson, Spears, Ratliff

Why didn’t we go after Kris Jenkins?

here is my real question though-Would D-Ware be a DE in the 4-3 or an OLB?

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D-Ware would replace Spears....

It will be Canty, Ratliff, Johnson and Ware

by thejanusman on Nov 2, 2008 7:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds good

But who are your OLB’s now that you’ve converted them all to downlinemen?

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Other than Burnett at weakside, James would be your middle

after that, you need alot of help. I dont see dallas changing to a 4-3 scheme exclusively anytime soon.

by Deke on Nov 2, 2008 7:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

canty

i know he isn’t the quickest guy out there..but De’s weren’t always the blazing fast athletic freaks they are today.

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 7:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wishful thinking

Does anybody think that Romo will improve the team, not only stats wise, but confidence-wise. I mean..if you look at the Patriots and other teams in the past, losing a starting quarterback does not only hurt the skill of the team, but the morale. He might not be the vocal leader, but when he is on the field he makes plays and works well by utilizing his weapons (something brad johnson is simply incapable of). Do you think him stepping back in there can create a spark of momentum for the team?

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you look at the Patriots and other teams in the past, losing a starting quarterback does not only hurt the skill of the team, but the morale.


dude the pats are 5-2 with a guy who hadn’t started a game since high school as the qb…..

by 325424 on Nov 2, 2008 9:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And there you have it TrueBlue24!

Here on the board, we can hash out these hypothetical defensive schemes- because it may be more creative than what our defensive coaching is capable of drawing up as a gameplan.

One more thing TrueBlue24 (I’m calling you out since you are questioning my questioning of the defense- not in a bad way though) and at least you admit that our Personnel seems to be tailored for a 4-3. Do you believe that the pressure our defense would bring with such a 4-3 personnel on the field bring alot of heat on an opposing QB?

I myself believe that the Cowboys should not scrap the 3-4, but rather we should become the NFL’s first legitimate “morphing defense”. Think about it for a moment- against a team like the Giants, we would use a 4-3 and probably stop the run alot better.

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't doubt that

possibly we could generate more pressure.
But it comes to who plays where…..does Dware have the strength to play DE?
Do you make Ellis and spencer DE’s?
If so who are your OLB’s?
because you just converted them all to DE’s.

I agree that running a hybrid 4-3….Just to mix it up….and if done correctly could benefit our defense…..However,didn’t Wade just Dumb down our Defense the last two weeks to avoid the confusion with some of our players?
I doubt he’s going to throw anything new at them coming off the bye week!

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 7:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only the Pats and Ravens can play both 3-4 and 4-3 and even a little 2-5

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten 82....

The discussion so far with the posts has not been offensive related, but rather turning the clock back to a time (not that long ago) when the Cowboys were tops in the NFL perennially on defense, and what to do to make that happen again.

I have no doubt that Romo’s return will be a big boost. What I do have doubts about though is Jason Garretts ability to squeeze the best out of the team offensively. We are too predictable, and play a “i don’t care if you know what I’m gonna do, try and stop me” brand of offense that would be fine if you had the 90’s offensive line, but we don’t , so some creative offense is called for. Sadly for us fans, we now see the coaching staffs inabilites and weaknesses.

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree defense is a huge problem

but if you don’t recall our offense walked all over the Eagles, and the Packers…two solid teams

by witten82 on Nov 2, 2008 7:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But could you imagine TrueBlue24?

How could the Giants gameplan against us if they saw a 4-3 all of a sudden? I say it’s worth a try, especially since the vaunted 3-4 isn’t applying the pressure on the opposing QB that it was supposed to. We wouldn’t have to stick with it either, and all because we have the personnel to do either defense. No one else is capable of morphing like we could BECAUSE of the type of personnel we have, and if I recall, weren’t we supposed to run some 4-3 more this year anyway? That was the rumor.

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok Wade just dumbed down the defense cuz apparently our players couldn't handle

the mental aspects of the game. Do you really think changing schemes is a good idea?

by quincyyyyy on Nov 2, 2008 8:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 2, 2008 8:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Changing Schemes?

If I was a real Cowboy fan (which I am Quincy) of course i would be interested in anything that would increase pressure on an opposing QB. You are talking about changing from a 3-4 to a 4-3 as a mistake, and I’m talking about the 3-4 as never having proven to me as a COWBOY FAN as ever proving to be an upgrade over the 4-3 when we ran it. We used to consistently get sacks and pressure QB’s in the 4-3, and we always were one of the top defenses in the NFL, even if we didn’t have a good QB or a winning record. In games like today’s loss to the Giants, your defense has to pressure the QB. We did not do that very well today, and in fact I may go so far as to say that the Dallas Cowboys have not done so well pressuring the QB since we scrapped the 4-3 in favor of the 3-4. It really wasn’t that long ago Quincyyyy.

"Amongst the enemy's Liar, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Nov 2, 2008 8:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weren't We...

3rd in sacks last year? We were also 5th in sacks(4 sacks behind league-leading Giants) before this game and we came away with 3 today.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Nov 2, 2008 8:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs