It said he played today but had no receptions… did he try to go and couldn’t?

The team has obviously either quit on him or refused to buy into what he is selling.

Fire Wade.

Do it now, while there is still time.

Tashard Choice runs hard, hits holes like the winninglottery ticket is on the other side and shows good burst.

He should get more touches….

When you bring a squirt gun to a gunfight

been saying it for two years, Brad was never going to get it done, Bollinger is nothing special at all, never understood that signing. Thats the fault of your GM, Mr clueless, jerry Jones

was an extreme long shot, nobody should be surprised by this at all, it was expected. If the Giants came into Texas Stadium with David Carr and other key personnel out, we’d kick their azz too, no big deal.

We’re a game above .500 and very much in the the wild card race. So what if we don’t win the dvision, look where that got us last season.

With Romo, the Cat, Kosier, and Newman back I see us making as serious run in the second half. Its not how you start, but how you finish.

Was it just me or did anyone see Wards touchdown and Mike Jenkins pretty much let him go through as a gift. He did not make an effort at all our team has absolutely no heart and it is because of our coach. Bill Parcells would have been all in Jenkins ear but no Wade will just blame it on himself like usual and not set a fire inside of anyone. Get me Bill Cowher right now. Pay him 30 million I dont care but do it JJ.

we have a really good team as long as romo gets healthy. I didn’t watch the game because I had an inkling this would happen, but with all the turnovers we had on offense I don’t think you can really blame the D for giving up 35.

Since I live here in NY, and am a Cowboy fan, I have alot of friends that are Giant fans, and I predicted with them that they would score around 30-40 points. What we would score I had no idea since it was really a question of QB, and since Wade decided to play Brad the entire 1st half, we pretty much gave the game away there. No way the Giants beat us if we cut down the penalties and Turnovers, even in this game. I like Wade, and i think he is a great defensive mind, but even I will say “enough is enough” with the laid back attitude.

I didn’t blame Bollinger in the 2nd half for his turnover as much as Garrett, because there was no reason to go to a short pass in that situation. Bollinger should have been in there earlier any way. He at least would have given us some semblance of a chance in the game.

I agree with thejanusman, we need to make Campo our D-coordinator (since we were dumb enough to let Capers get away) and scrap the 3-4 and go to 4-3. OUR TEAM HAS THE DEFENSIVE PERSONNEL TO RUN THE 4-3 EXCELLENTLY AND ONLY AVERAGE PERSONNEL IN THE 3-4. I’m not venting, just saying what I feel. I also said in a post last week that Tashard Choice is a touchdown waiting to happen, but I was also right in saying that the coaching staff is slow in figuring out things, so of course he wouldn’t play much.

The only way the Cowboys will truly start winning games like this handily is if they go back to the 4-3. Where we really that bad on defense when we scrapped the 4-3 in favor of the 3-4?

If they come out and play well and beat the Skins, we’re going to the playoffs and make some noise there.

If we continue to play poor and lose, then the season is over and all the doom and gloom will be justified.

Arrogant a-hole.

Let me point something out here. Yes we are in last in the East, but we still have a 5-4 record. We still have Key players returning after the bye week. Romo, Kosier, El Gato, T-New. Those are not some scrubs that won’t help.

Also note that when they come back, this offense will have their full compliment of starters back on the field, PLUS Roy Williams as the #2 WR. Nobody has seen how good this offense will be yet.

A good offense that can put up points and control the clock takes a lot of pressure off the defense. The defense plays well when they can rest and not have to start defending an opponents drive that starts at mid-field. We also will have T-New back and hopefully healthy.

A lot of talking heads are making a big deal about Dallas being 5-4 and behind teams that are 5-3. Well guess what, Dallas was 5-3 before this week too. A lot will change over the next couple weeks, so stay strong Cowboy brothers and sisters, this season is not decided by a long shot.

I’d cry but I’ve been all dried up since the first quarter. I need some water. Goodnight BTB brethren

just a hope that jerry sees the defensive scheme inability to produce an effective and feared defense, because our offense will become terrifying again, but will Jerry see this teams problems for what it is and what we have talked about her on the board- coaching attitude and decisionmaking? Jerry must do something, because we can’t have that inefficient a coaching staff- or do we?

The Cowboys could have easily won this game. I hate sounding like a broken record, but coaching decisions, defensive scheme, and offensive playcalling once again under-utilized our talent and has led us down this path. Yes, our offense will be back, and when our offense plays to it’s abilities, we usually win because our offense is lethal. But can you imagine if our defense was a strength of our team too?

He can hardly lift his right arm. How can you expect to block Kiwaunuka and Tuck with one arm?

When the Giants beat us in the playoffs. This game is just part 2 of the same movie. Nothing has changed because the scheme hasn’t changed. Just because you get great players doesn’t mean you’ll be better especially if the scheme is flawed. I’m not saying the 3-4 is flawed, I’m saying our defensive philosiphy with and about the 3-4 is flawed. We have the Personnel that seems to me to be a team that would run a 4-3.

Man, it was ugly at the Meadowlands..It’s was a blood bath like I said it would be and it was worse in person. The Giants fans were as**holes like I knew they would. It was evident they exposed James in the first half on coverage. He was god awful…The OL was even worse…Something is wrong with Flozell. He was real bad. What a mistake resigning him. This team is real bad bad on both sides of the ball. We are not making the playoffs.

 I can’t believe we are this bad with this much talent. I say again, Hudson Houck is a awful OL coach. They were playing bad even when Romo was healthy. Johnson..enough said. He should be cut tomorrow. Blame Jerry for not getting a reliable backup in the offseason.

Jenkins, Scandrick, Choice, Bennett, Spencer, Austin? and none are “starters” on our real depth chart so when everybody comes back, we’re going to have the pro bowlers doing what they do and the team’s going to be real tight with all of our subs playing great….and after the bye week is when RW2 is going to finally be set in with this offense and it’s right when Romo’s coming back…..

but so come playoff time when Jenkins and Scandrick are playing the nickel and dime, they’re going to be real players in there and not just back ups as is the case when we run 2 TE’s sets with Bennett, etc…

i think it’s been said above, but once Romo and some of the other key guys come back, there’s no reason why this team couldn’t get into the playoffs. if you look strictly at the Wild Card outside of the division, the other contending teams are the three AFC South squads (TB, Atlanta, NO), GB, and Minny. with Romo and the rest back, i think the Cowboys can be better than all of those teams.

within the division, they still have one game against each team. with the way that shit usually goes down in the NFC East, i wouldn’t count the Cowboys out from winning in Washington or Philly (or obviously against the Giants at home). what makes this division so great, is that all four teams routinely win road games against division opponents. a 5-2 finish is within the realm of possibility and with four home games remaining, they’ll have to hold serve and steal one on the road (Pittsburgh, Philly, Washington – easier said than done, i know).

do i think this team has underachieved? yes. but considering the circumstances, and the Romo injury (who knew he’d be so important to this offense?), 5-4 isn’t 3-6. this team can still make a run after the bye week.

i’d wish you good luck the rest of the season, but i just can’t go against my nature. i will say that i hope they improve because i like tough, down-to-the-wire games like last year’s playoff game instead of laugh-factory games against inept quarterbacks.

How many times do you have to see Bradie James in coverage on a TE and see him get burned? or trailing a RB? If it isn’t scheme, then it is definitely coaching decisions in regards to putting the right players in the right positions to make plays. Our brand of 3-4 scares no one (face reality). All they have to do is double Ware, and the rest of the defense becomes average in a heartbeat. Our young DB’s are playing great, and I hope that is not getting overlooked by us.

It’ll be a tough road, but this team can rebound from 5-4 with the right mentality. I’m just not sure if the personnel to provide that exists in the locker room as presently constructed.
Start reading up on Cowher, Bill in preparation for next year.

also had an interception for a touchdown- but I’m verrrry happy with Scandrick and Jenkins. They will be great players, they just need time. We need to get better pressure on QB’s

is a good player, but he excells in the scheme. If our scheme is flawed, then it doesn’t matter what players we have.

Would anyone posting on this board be against a hypothetical? Here it is….

What 4 D-lineman would be your lineup at the line of scrimmage if we went to 4-3?

Here is mine- Canty, Johnson, Spears, Ratliff

Why didn’t we go after Kris Jenkins?

here is my real question though-Would D-Ware be a DE in the 4-3 or an OLB?

Does anybody think that Romo will improve the team, not only stats wise, but confidence-wise. I mean..if you look at the Patriots and other teams in the past, losing a starting quarterback does not only hurt the skill of the team, but the morale. He might not be the vocal leader, but when he is on the field he makes plays and works well by utilizing his weapons (something brad johnson is simply incapable of). Do you think him stepping back in there can create a spark of momentum for the team?

Here on the board, we can hash out these hypothetical defensive schemes- because it may be more creative than what our defensive coaching is capable of drawing up as a gameplan.

One more thing TrueBlue24 (I’m calling you out since you are questioning my questioning of the defense- not in a bad way though) and at least you admit that our Personnel seems to be tailored for a 4-3. Do you believe that the pressure our defense would bring with such a 4-3 personnel on the field bring alot of heat on an opposing QB?

I myself believe that the Cowboys should not scrap the 3-4, but rather we should become the NFL’s first legitimate “morphing defense”. Think about it for a moment- against a team like the Giants, we would use a 4-3 and probably stop the run alot better.

The discussion so far with the posts has not been offensive related, but rather turning the clock back to a time (not that long ago) when the Cowboys were tops in the NFL perennially on defense, and what to do to make that happen again.

I have no doubt that Romo’s return will be a big boost. What I do have doubts about though is Jason Garretts ability to squeeze the best out of the team offensively. We are too predictable, and play a “i don’t care if you know what I’m gonna do, try and stop me” brand of offense that would be fine if you had the 90’s offensive line, but we don’t , so some creative offense is called for. Sadly for us fans, we now see the coaching staffs inabilites and weaknesses.

How could the Giants gameplan against us if they saw a 4-3 all of a sudden? I say it’s worth a try, especially since the vaunted 3-4 isn’t applying the pressure on the opposing QB that it was supposed to. We wouldn’t have to stick with it either, and all because we have the personnel to do either defense. No one else is capable of morphing like we could BECAUSE of the type of personnel we have, and if I recall, weren’t we supposed to run some 4-3 more this year anyway? That was the rumor.

If I was a real Cowboy fan (which I am Quincy) of course i would be interested in anything that would increase pressure on an opposing QB. You are talking about changing from a 3-4 to a 4-3 as a mistake, and I’m talking about the 3-4 as never having proven to me as a COWBOY FAN as ever proving to be an upgrade over the 4-3 when we ran it. We used to consistently get sacks and pressure QB’s in the 4-3, and we always were one of the top defenses in the NFL, even if we didn’t have a good QB or a winning record. In games like today’s loss to the Giants, your defense has to pressure the QB. We did not do that very well today, and in fact I may go so far as to say that the Dallas Cowboys have not done so well pressuring the QB since we scrapped the 4-3 in favor of the 3-4. It really wasn’t that long ago Quincyyyy.

wasn’t that bad at all, we forced 3 turnovers and the game wasnt even close… that’s on the offense. they were on the field the whole damn game, of course they wore down against 260 pound jacobs. eventually you need a break, any defense would wear down. they made plays which should have kept us in the game but when we get the ball at th 12 n a crappy pass leads to a TO fumble, then that’s not quite on the Defense. the 3-4 has been much improved the number of points given up doesn’t show how well our defense played. also we have lot of injuries on D, the secondary is playing great for 2 rooks n a 1st year player. so no we shouldn’t go 4-3…. been there tried that it was awful 4 years ago. the best defense is a good offense, and our offense was piss poor. SO, don’t blame Wade or Stewart or the D. Sometimes injuries happen and it’s unfortunate, but it’s part of the game. I’m sick of people calling for Wade’s job, he’s in a tough spot n were above .500 without a lot of big name guys. He’s a good coach and no other coach in the league wins with their QB’s throwing 3 picks in the 1st half (1st poss. of the 3rd) against the giants.

You’ve got to be willing to think outside the box. If I’m not mistaken, it wasn’t the Giants offense stopping our running game and putting pressure on our QB, it was there DEFENSE, and until someone speaks out, then there will always be fans saying “well, that really wasn’t on the defense”. I agree that our defense played an improved game, but far from Cowboy football expectations. Also do not forget the personnel we had for the 4-3 4 years ago was nothing like the personnel we have now to run it. A 4-3 D-line could have possibly stiffled Brandon Jacobs, and put alot more heat on Manning. I bet that the Giants offensive coordinators are aware that we have a great D-line, and pray that we never figure this out.

And as far as anyone saying that the 4-3 won’t be coming back anytime soon (like houseofprime said) I have one question for you- What happens when Wade is replaced, and most likely by a coach who runs a 4-3? Do you truly believe after what has happened that Jerry will force a coach that he wants into a defensive scheme that he may not want? Whether I like Wade or not is not the question- Defensive production and pressure is what is on the order. I am not against Wade, nor am I calling for his head. But what I am for is some sort of change, because all I see into the future is another re-run on the TV set in the future, and we as fans deserve better than to watch the Giants, Redskins and Eagles continue to dominate us.

Not having Romo isn’t the main problem, as bad as that offense has been and the fact that Dallas was ill prepared for the idea of Romo being hurt, he is not the main problem. Terry, as much as I know that you think with Romo the Cowboys should go 16-0 for as long as he plays, he has been just as reckless with the football as Brad. I think he’s thrown an INT in every game he’s played and that’s not good. They’ve got 4 losses, 2 with and 2 without Romo.

Basically the Rams, Giants, Eagles, and Redskins were ripping into the defense at will. The run defense is very soft and it isn’t getting any better. The secondary got chewed up by Marc Bulger…..MARC BULGER!!!

Offensively, the running game has disappeared and it makes the team one dimensional. And Brad Johnson (or Brooks Bollinger) won’t cut it. Not all Marion Barber’s fault, or Brad’s fault. Even the weakest of pass rushes can penetrate that offensive line.

If you get what I’m saying, the Cowboys have an awful defense and a poor and banged up offense that will not do anything even if Romo plays because the offensive line gives no one time to do anything.

i will never, EVER make another disparaging remark about him. this defense better show up against washington.

we have WAY too much talent to be looking this bad… it’s not just today’s loss, it’s the loss to the Cards and the LOWELY Rams morso… there are 20 coaches in this league that would have won those games with the talent we have… with or without Romo…

today’s game just magnified our weaknesses..

With Romo we WILL be a better team, but not a team that can just win at will… too many penalties, too many missed tackles, and poor game plan…
penalties are a coaching issue
tackeling is fundamental football and we don’t do it well
seemingly NO REAL game plan.. no attmpts to do anything different, we had our backs aginst the wall and it looked like we played basic football.. try to run and use the run to set up the pass.. well.. if you can’t pass they will stack the line to keep you from running, so if you can’t run you can’t set up the pass..
i just figure if Jason Garrett was some offensive genius he would have at least one or two wrinkles that we could at least TRY…. and if they don’t work NO big deal, we lose anyway, but if they do, maybe we score and get some momentum and confidence..
reminds me of when Barry Switzer was coach.. did he REALLY coach?? I don’t think so he just let pro bowl players play.. and for a year it worked… that is what it seems like is happening now, but the players are not making it work…

yea, 13 pro bowlers last year.. this year 1 (ware)

Your mettle is surely being tested right about now.

I was really hoping the Cowboys would crater and have that defining moment that galvanized the players and made them a team, but this group has the bad juju that comes from the head coach. Not one area of the team is performing well. Now, you can blame it on injuries and you can blame it on suspensions and chemistry or whatever you want. That one definig moment when the players have to dig deep and find their soul just isn’t going to happen.

Right about now, the three teams ahead of us in the NFC East are actually MUCH BETTER coached teams than Dallas. In the end, I think that has a lot to do with the owner picking a coordinator before the head coach, but what do I know?

I run a large organization in a company of over 80,000 employees and I don’t think anyone would ever try to hire managers or directors who are supposed to report to me.

So this is where we see if Garrett and his Ivy League education and stints as a minion of Saban, Jimmy and others helps usher in a new era of discipline and commitment to TEAM. This is where we see if Jerry the GM does the right thing for the Dallas Cowboys, whether he does what a “football guy” would do. Or, does he let the team wallow in this state and become the biggest disappointment of the 2008 season?

Somehow, I think he may just cut the cord on Wade and make the move to JG, but again, what do I know?

It’s in Jerry’s hands now.

just getting home. i watched the game but couldn’t get online.

it was about what i expected, really, sadly.

the giants are a very good team. they’ve had their off-games and off-quarters this year, and in our state we really would have needed the bad eli and bad giants to show up, but they didn’t.

the defense gave up 5 TDs, which sucks of course, but you can hardly blame them when the offense turns the ball over 4 times and can barely get a first down. the D actually kept us in the game for almost a half (thanks to finally getting a CB pick and defensive TD), but they just couldn’t maintain it with 2-1 ratio of first downs, yards and time of possession.

brad, thanks for trying, i hope i never see you on the field again, have a good retirement and sorry you have to go out on such a sour note. at least you went 1-2 and managed to not lose the Bucs game, and kept us in contention.

brooks, i thought it couldn’t get any worse than brad, then you threw your first pass. but you did manage to put together one sustained drive. maybe you’ve got some promise.

i know injuries are no excuse, they are part of the game, but knowing the situation with how many key guys we had out and how many are coming back after the bye helps me absorb this embarrassing loss without panic. if the giants were missing manning and all the same positions, and we were as healthy as they are, we’d be favored and we might do the same thing to them as they did to us. not an excuse, but part of the reality of the situation. and the one good thing about this game is that we avoided further serious injuries.

we’ll need to win most of our games down the stretch, but we’re not out of it, and we should be mostly healthy. the team and the fans all can lick our wounds, get some rest and come back hungry.

I’m not saying we need a coach like Parcells, but a more disiciplined coaching style than Wades.

I had to ban someone in this thread and when I did a bunch of comments got deleted. Wasn’t my intention, it was a malfunction of the technology, so if you see comments missing, it was my mistake. Carry on arguing.

We’re only one game off the playoffs, with a bye week to get a few guys back…

Which makes the Redskins game absolutely HUGE.

From there, take care of business against the NFC west, and we have our destiny back in our own hands. This team is far from done. The mettle of the team and the coaches remains to be proven. If you heard the NYC radio stations last December, you would never imagine that Giants team even was in the playoff hunt.

Patience, gentlemen, patience.

and BoyzFan94, can you take Michael Irvin’s HOF quote out of your signature, because that obviously means absolutely nothing to you…You are the definition of giving up. Hindsight is 20/20, isn’t it? I think 5-2 down the stretch is VERY doable. I’d say we’ll drop one division game and one to the Steelers. A bye week can do wonders for an ailing squad and while this team lacks heart and discipline, they do have a lot of talent. I know that’s a terrible thing to say (kind of a NY Yankee way of looking at it), I still have hope…I never give up on my Cowboys…

Forget about 5 – 2 right now. Just come back and beat Wahington in 2 weeks….

In football a lot of the time is pent talking and thinking about what we could of have or what we don’t have. I think it’s time to talk about what we DO have and that is a underachieved team OVERALL.

- The OL is not blocking.
- Backup QB’s aren’t constructive.
- Our defense ain’t tackling (exception: Ware, Zack, Bradie, Henry). The only logical explanation right now for Jenkins non existing interest in tackling is that he got paid off or asked by coach Wade not to tackle yesterday.

5-4 with a very tough schedule in front. If we want to even think about going to the post seasons we need to win, not 5 out of 7, but every single game left. With the way the division is playing and being at the bottom of the list, we cannot afford to win 10 games this season. WE HAVE THE TEAM TO DO THIS. WE HAVE THE COACHING STAFF TO DO THIS.

We have TWO weeks to chillax and a Sunday to enjoy football without the fear of failure or more injuries. As of today (Monday, November the 3rd) Romo, EL GATO, Newman, and Kosier are back in the game. Don’t know about you guys but this aint the whole answer to our problems. If our OL doesn’t block Romo wont complete passes and EL GATO or MB3 won’t run anywhere, and if our Defense doesn’t tackle we will keep on giving points.

I still believe we’re the best team in the NFL, our numbers definitely don’t show this, but our teammates and staff do!

GO COWBOYS!

In reading these posts, i definitely understand the frustration, but you guys are screaming fire Wade, Jenkins is gutless, hire Cowher, yada, yada… Just relax… I live in NYC, so i get i 10x more than you guys… I can’t pick up a paper, watch, or listen to anything, because all i hear is how great the Giants are. Enjoy the bye week, let’s heal and rest and go down to the nations capital and get a W.

I know people don’t want excuses about how he’s hurt but the fact is he is our offense. Without him MB3 sees 8 people in the box about every time. With him that 8 man front becomes more rare, and he picks up more yards, moves the sticks, AND opens up our play action, which is where we excel. with Romo, our O-Line’s struggles are somewhat masked by his mobility and therefore the WR’s running deep routes actually have a chance of receiving the ball. With Romo the deep pass is a threat, so the underneath pass becomes easier. Romo can make all the throws, on the run, in the pocket, he is scary for a defensive coordinator to prepare for. Yes, he turns it over more than we’d like to see as fans, but unless Brady or Manning (Peyton) came to Big D, i wouldn’t want any other quarterback in the league. So it’s not as much of an excuse as it is just a blatant and obvious fact.