Kyle Kosier is officially placed on injured reserve

by Tuna Helper on Nov 29, 2008 12:54 PM CST Comment 50 comments

The Cowboys placed left guard Kyle Kosier on injured reserve Saturday and signed linebacker Steve Octavien off Washington's practice squad to fill Kosier's roster spot.

Kosier is likely to have surgery this week in Charlotte, N.C., on his right foot. He played in only three games this season - all wins - after suffering a ligament injury and hairline fracture in his foot in the preseason against Houston.

Kosier played well when he was healthy and has been solid ever since he came to the 'Boys. I'm encouraged by Montrae Holland but I can't shake the feeling that this will haunt us at some point down the road.

The Star-Telegraph reports the same here.

DC.com has a good recap of the situation here.

Kosier was expected to visit a foot specialist this coming week, but the Cowboys doctors already were recommending surgery to repair the torn ligament he's been trying to fight through this entire season. Kosier was able to return a second time this season to play in the Washington and San Francisco games. But the starting left guard reinjured his problematic foot against the Niners and the ligament damage this time has left a joint in his foot too loose to continue playing and likely in need of surgery. The rehab from such a surgery is expected to be three to four months.

In Thursday's 34-9 victory over Seattle, the Cowboys replaced Kosier in the starting lineup with Montrae Holland, acquired in an Aug. 28 trade with Denver for a 2010 fifth-round pick. Holland appeared to play decently starting in place of Cory Procter, who had started eight games in Kosier's previous absence. Kosier first injured his foot in the third preseason game against Houston, and missed the first two games of the season. He returned to play against Green Bay but stepped in a hole on a somewhat torn up Lambeau Field late in the fourth quarter and missed seven more games after convincing the club to allow him to rest and rehab instead of having season-ending surgery then.

Shout out to scottmaui and his fanpost here.

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just reported Plaxico Burress in the hospital for an accidental gunshot wound to himself last night at a club.

This is now Plax’s third offense this year.

Wife abuse/beratting officials/gun posession last night.

Let’s see what Mr.Goodell does with this situation.

The Gmen are getting beat up and no Plax hurts them.

No one to catch Manning’s throws when they are 8 feet in the air.

by oneforthethumb on Nov 29, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

3rd offense this year

Let’s see if he gets suspended.

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

A LB not a RB

The fact that we signed a LB and not a RB is telling. If they had any doubts about Barber’s health, they would have signed a RB, probably Alanzo Coleman off the practice squad. Instead, they went with special teams help. Barber will be good to go againts Pittsburgh.

by Ridgelake on Nov 29, 2008 1:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm surprised they didn't go RB

Who is Steve Octavien? (Other than a guy with a cool last name)

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

there some more info

in my fanpost and Deke’s comment there from his profile…

by scottmaui on Nov 29, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Scott

Just read it.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Georgia Tech just went up...

Grizz must be losing his mind right about now….

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Nov 29, 2008 1:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I bet he's happy with that option to Jones run

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you know he is.....going for it on 4th?

wow…

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Nov 29, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Time to call Jerry out on this-

the TURF at Texas stadium has been atrocious all year.
Our guys, the home team, have been slipping and sliding as if it were a wet Veteran’s Stadium.
A 49er nearly broke his ankle just standing there, luckily it wasn’t our guy.

A lot of foot injuries—Barber, Kosier (yes, 3rd preseason game was a home game), Ware, who’s foot got caught, could have been injured more seriously.
Am I forgetting someone?

I know it’s Texas Stadium’s last year, maybe it’s just a coincidence, but I sure wonder if they skimped on whatever it is you do to that artificial turf in the off-season.

by Realist Larry on Nov 29, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm thinking a guy who spends $1 million a day on the new stadium

Doesn’t need to skimp out on anything. I think it’s just coincidence.

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Knowing that this stadium was going to get demolished after this year?

that’s how you GET a Billion!
Not spending money you don’t have to.

by Realist Larry on Nov 29, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

jerry's not spending his money..

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

anything is better than the old astro turf

where you foot would lock tearing up your knee. You have to remember that you’re playing on ground up rubber, so there will be some slippage. I rather slip and trun an ankle than tear all the ligament in your knee and the new fieldturf is easier on the body.

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

On a semi-related note.....

Jamal Anderson blew out his knee in the 2nd game of the 1999 season on that old astro turf after having carried the ball 410 times in ‘98. Counting the accompanying postseason, he actually touched the ball a whopping 495 times. That’s the part that’s relevant to Barber’s workload this season. So was Anderson simply tempting fate and increasing the odds of having something bad happen by getting the ball nearly 500 times the previous season? He certainly was never the same after blowing out his knee. I don’t know that I’d go that far since career-shattering injuries can happen on your very first carry; ask Ki-Jana Carter. Would anybody go as far to say that Jamal Anderson blowing out his knee on just the 19th carry of the season after a season in which he had nearly 500 touches is more than a coincidence?

by MadMick on Nov 29, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think most bodies only have so many yards in them.

I definitely think that he broke down, and it’s clearly not a coincidence that most NFL backs break down at 30. That’s what made guys like Emmitt, Payton, Sanders, Bettis, etc. so special. Hopefully we’ll start using Choice and Felix more so that Barber can survive his contract.

by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 29, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oh please

blaming jerry here is ridiculous. What about the previous years??

45-35
Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Nov 29, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Has Jerry ever skimped on anything?????????? I'm guessing not. Especially when it comes to his beloved Dallas Cowboys

by TARHEEL PAUL on Nov 29, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Barber wasn't in the stadium, though, was he?

On the practice field?
Still, could have aggravated something that originated in a game.

I know there’s no proof, but I wouldn’t be bringing this up if I hadn’t been watching guys sliding all over all year.

by Realist Larry on Nov 29, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You mean Felix?

I thought MB3 got his foot stepped on and that’s what caused the dislocation of his toe.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure, to be honest.

I’m just raising an issue I’d like to know more about.

Have you seen our team having trouble w/footing all year at home?

by Realist Larry on Nov 29, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

man...knoshown moreno is sweet...

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Nov 29, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Don't sure

I have seen some slipping, especially in the WAS game. But, I don’t know if it’s more than usual. I think the injuries are just bad luck. Law of averages.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Meant "Not sure"

In response to Realist Larry

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What I want to know

turf or grass in the new stadium?

by Rafael Vela on Nov 29, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

From the wiki page of the stadium

2009: The artificial-turf field will be brought into the stadium. The stadium is scheduled to be completed in August, and the Cowboys will play their first home game there in September.

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Too bad

I’d rather see them play on grass. But still cannot wait to see them play there.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What the really need is

The grass/turf mix.

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

with the amount of events scheduled in the new place

I guess real grass would of been out of the question. I prefer Grass but I can understand why they went with turf.

Speaking of Turf, when is the NFL going to mandate the Steelers get turf in their dump. That field is a disaster late in the season especially when there is rain followed snow. Last year there was a couple of games, one a Monday nighter where the field was nothing but a pig pen.

It’s too bad we couldn’t have a grass field in the new stadium like in Arizona where they slide the field out from under the stadium to water and grow out side and then slide it back into the stadium on the weekend for games.

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not only because it's grass

It’s because Pitt also plays there. So there’s 2 games on most weekends there, which doesn’t help the grass hold up.

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I realize that

But when you have grass on a field where the elements of rain and snow in the fall, the temperature changes with three huundred pound men running and sliding alll over it makes it impossible to have good field for a game, high school, college or pro in conditions when its grass in the fall of the year. That’s why I think the league should be stepping in and telling the Steelers that the field has to be swapped out for field turf.

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Now just imagine turf in those conditions

Basically it turns into a solid sheet of ice.

The game we played against Randy Moss in high school was the state championship. The field in Charleston, WV is turf. It rained the night before, and then froze. The field was a solid sheet of ice the entire game. Moss was the only one who seemed to be able to do anything on it, since he ran past our DB like he was standing still (the DB was the state 200 meter champion too).

Turf + weather is not good.

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They have heating systems under fields now

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

plus the fields have great drainage systems, they cover the field and blow hot air under the cover

and remove the tarp a couple of hour before gametime. Its just not the problem it once was with the new technology.. You’re basically playing on ground up rubber tires

Greenbay, New York, philly and New England dont have any problems with their field turf..

by Deke on Nov 29, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea I guess this was 1992 I was talking about lol

by mhuff13 on Nov 29, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not to mention high school playoff games

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 30, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How many dedicated special teams players do we have now?

I count 7 including the long snapper and kickers. And who is on Dallas’ practice squad that we keep poaching guys from other teams? And do we need 5 new backup linemen next year, since all of ours are apparently awful?

by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 29, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

All good questions

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Nov 29, 2008 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What about Kenton Keith for RB?

I have not heard his name all year. He filled in nicely for Joseph Addai last year. To my knowledge he is not on a roster this year, he was beaten out by Rhodes.I think we seriously need a backup rb and not Shawn Alexander who offers nothing but a backup RB. I am pretty sure a journeyman like Keith could play special teams.

by Ranger Capt on Nov 29, 2008 5:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Kenton Keith

doesn’t he have a fumbling problem? I am with you on Shaun alexander, no thanks

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Nov 29, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

What a name to dig up. I do remember him doing well for the Colts. I am not sure about the fumbling problem. Nonetheless, kudos for remembering Kenton Keith.

In-YOUR-endo

by accidental innuendo on Nov 30, 2008 6:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt our new LB is even on our team come next sunday...

Remember pac will officially be back on the active roster so our new Octavion guy is just here to keep the seat warm for a week

by nicholas.rodriguez on Nov 29, 2008 7:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think he has to be on the team at least 3 weeks.

I might be wrong.

by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 29, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't he have to be coming from a PS?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Nov 30, 2008 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Quincy Butler will be the one that gets cut.

by houseofprime on Nov 29, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think they are looking to shore up special teams

Lets face it, our biggest weakness all year has been special teams. Now lets look at the last couple of guys they have brought in. Carlos Polk and Tre Battle. And both guys have made immediate impacts on special teams. Battle was on the team for 1 day and the next day he was flying around making a tackle on his first play as a cowboy.

While i think it is risky to carry only 2 half backs, i think jerry is trying his best to address what has been one of this teams biggest weaknesses. .

by TARHEEL PAUL on Nov 29, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Chris Gamble was recently signed to a huge contract. He was drafted in 2004 with a low first round pick. Who did we get? We traded down with Buffalo to get Julius Jones and next year got their pick, which got us Spears. Spears isn’t bad, but I wouldn’t mind having Gamble.

by ym on Nov 30, 2008 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs