Why is Everyone Writing Off the Cowboys?
The Big Lead (one of my favorite sports blogs outside of this one) has a post questioning why everyone is writing off the Boys.
Now stop crying in your beer and go get some more motivation why it ain't over yet.
At 5-4, the Cowboys currently are not qualified for the postseason. The sky is falling! They’ve lost two of three without Romo. The defense is beyond abysmal (yet is still 4th in the NFL in sacks), but everyone knew that prior to the Cardinals game. The entire NFC East is above .500.
But …
* They own Wild Card tiebreakers over Tampa and Green Bay by virtue of head-to-head victories.
* Tony Romo is expected to return after the bye week.
* They still get San Fran, Seattle, and Baltimore at home, presumably all with Romo. That puts them at eight victories.
* The Giants, despite being 2.5 games up on Dallas, play arguably the most difficult second-half schedule in the NFL. No opponent the rest of the way has a sub .500 record.
The Cowboys are nowhere near done. Don’t you love knee jerk reaction? After the Cowboys throttled Cleveland, nipped Philly, and then pounded Green Bay on the road, Dallas was everyone’s Super Bowl favorite. Now, with their QB down, everyone’s kicking them. Hey, didn’t we hear something like this about the Denver Broncos after it squeaked by San Diego and New Orleans earlier this season?
Those guys haven’t even lost their QB (though they did miss Champ Bailey, whose fill-in got abused by the Fish). They were just overrated. Dallas, meanwhile, has lost its rookie RB and game-changing kick returner (Jones), Romo, and two DBs (Pacman and T Newman).
The Cowboys will be fine.
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The fight is on.
Sucks that after every loss Cowboys fans expect some huge personnel or coaching change to right this ship. It’s a season of adversity.
Last year, the Lions started 6-2 and finished 8-8. Some teams WILL fall this 2nd half of the season. Good teams won’t stand down. The Colts, Cowboys, Chargers, and Packers may have had tough first halfs, but character will be key in this second half.
Where's Felix?
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 3, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because people change their minds every week.
No perspective at all.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Nov 3, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
great post
It amazes how fans see a few bad games and they think the season is over, totally ridiculous knee jerk reaction.
Every team in the league are going to have their peaks and valleys. We started off hot, got inot a lull, had some injuries making the lull worse, however, this is the same team that beat Philly and GB earlier who are among the best teams in the league.
The Cowboys can circle the wagons and get back on a roll again, you just have to believe. Just look at my signature, that says it all.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 3, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Glad I’m not alone.
All I keep thinking is that if you told me this time last year the Giants would be SB champs I would have told you that you were high.
If you told me during preseason that at some point I'd be cheering a Brad Johnson to Roy Williams touchdown to take the lead I probably would have told you that you were crazy.
by california fan on Nov 3, 2008 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
that the season isn’t over, but it does mean that there is so little wiggle room. 5-2 is pretty much a must. You have to hope that Romo can still be as effective as he has always been. Also, the defense is pretty soft and have proven that over time. They have talent on defense, but they become relaxed way too often during games. If this was the NBA, NHL, or MLB you would have a better point, but this is the NFL. You only have 16 games and every game is huge. Go Cowboys!
by Slick-ish24 on Nov 3, 2008 11:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For the most part...
…i agree with you.
And although I’m not one to throw in the towel on the season, I must confess that I’m very, very, very concerned that our inability to overcome self-inflicting mistakes (turnovers, penalties, poor tackling, etc) seems to be occurring in at least half of our games this season.
That’s a tell-tale sign of an undisciplined team.
Last season, it didn’t happen that much. This season, it’s happening more often than not.
So even though I hold out hope for us to turn it around, I’m still worried about this ball club under the direction of Wade Phillips.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Nov 4, 2008 6:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
the only hope there
is that the players take it upon themselves to right the ship, and not count on the coaches doing it for them.
Lets face it, these guys are professionals, not high school or college players, their need for a coaching staff to make them more disciplined shouldn’t be as necessary.
I’m hoping the players during this break have a players only meeting and decide they’re not going to allow this season to be a waste, Wade or no Wade.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 4, 2008 7:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what definitely has to happen for the season to be saved
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Nov 4, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Terry.....these are grown men...time to stop the Wade bashing, and realize it's on the players to be more disiplined...
Wade can’t read the snap count, tackle, or block for these premadonna’s who drank too much of their own cool-aid…..Crayton was on the money after the game…they are playing like crap across the board….General Patton couldn’t get these to play right ….They gotta suck it up, and play like each game is an elimination playoff game….Getting Romo, Felix, Kosier, and Newman back would go along way in changing this thing around…..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Nov 5, 2008 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree in parts
but there is a reason year in and year out New England is one of the lowest penalized teams-COACHING..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Nov 5, 2008 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched some of that NE vs. Indy game on Replay last night
and noticed Belichek employed some WildCat. Good coaches use what has beaten them.
I question whether Wade & Co. even considered anything from the film of the Giants’ only loss against Cleveland, who threw down the middle, ran some WildCat and UFO stunts.
Need to gamble a bit more. Not asking for much, but just show that this coaching staff is LESS conventional than the one before it. I thought that’s what Jerry wanted with the change: some WOW.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 5, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tired of being predictable..
Very tired..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Nov 5, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tired too
I knew if they went at the Giants like they did TB they would lose. I was hoping to see some “fight” last Sunday. If you’re a wounded team going up against someone no one thinks you can beat, pull out the effin’ stops. Give it to Crayton to pass to RW/TO. Line Barber up in the slot. Flea flicker, wildcat, no huddle, anything. No one will convince me that the score would’ve been much worse if they tried to shake it up a little and they probably would feel much more energized as a team even with the loss. And, of course, it might have given the fans a little something to be excited about as well as make other teams think twice.
I think I’m gonna have to jump on the bandwagon and say that coaching is part of the problem right now.
If you told me during preseason that at some point I'd be cheering a Brad Johnson to Roy Williams touchdown to take the lead I probably would have told you that you were crazy.
by california fan on Nov 6, 2008 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Been Said Before
that Romo can’t win games all by himself, although there were times…
Anyway, what I see coming is an unprecedented level of pressure on Tony to be the savior of the second season. Right or wrong, it’s gonna happen. And if for some reason he can’t, he will take the brunt of the criticism. Comes with the territory, yes I get that. If the defense doesn’t get it’s nuts back on the bolts and the O-line to play like they started out, we could be looking at a very ugly end to what started off as a promising season. Personally I think there is a curse with beating the Packers. Last year things went south after we beat them and the same thing this year.
The older I get, the better I was.
by Far Rider on Nov 4, 2008 7:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
all I know
is that last season the Chargers were 5-5 and had to win the last 6 games of their season to make the playoffs and not only did they do that, but made it to the AFC Championship game.
I know the Cowboys have as much or more talent than the Chargers and Norv Turner is just as soft and not a better coach than Wade.
Can be done.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 4, 2008 8:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good points, Terry
Where's Felix?
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 4, 2008 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wade is not a great coach
but this team is full of professionals who have faced more adversity this season than in the last few combined. They are not done and an across the board effort by every single player on this team can right the ship.
People want to look at the Giants game and say this team sucks, I say any intelligent fan knows that the horrible quarterback play put the team in a hole from which they could not recover.
Its not going to be easy but it certainly can be done.
BTW, thanks for this post, the extreme amount of negativity and blind hate on this blog the last couple of days has made me sick.
by Billito on Nov 4, 2008 8:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
While the Giants may have the toughest remaining schedule
The Cowboys have got the 2nd toughest reaming schedule in terms of opponent winning percentages. I’m also not sure why you would ad Baltimore in there as a give me win when that team is presently 5-3 and playing really good football.
The Boys also still have to play at Washington, Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia and at home against the Giants. The really only have two easy games left, San Francisco and Seattle.
by gee-roj on Nov 4, 2008 8:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
the schedule means nothing
because if the Cowboys play ball like they’re capable of playing, they are good enough to beat any team any where.
If they keep playing poorly, then they’ll lose and it won’t really matter who they’re playing.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 4, 2008 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go
Toughest road to the playoffs
Team Record Remaining opp. winning %
Schedule rank
Giants 7-1 .632 1st (toughest in NFL)
Redskins 6-2 .492 18th
Eagles 5-3 .590 3rd
Cowboys 5-4 .582 4th
LINK
by Billito on Nov 4, 2008 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By The Looks Of That...
The Foreskins will win the division, especially since their remaining division games are all at home.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Nov 4, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There were alot of terrible towels in D.C. last night.
Maybe Skins tickets holders are selling out because the team is good.
I’m split as to who I want to win between the Giants & Eagles next week. Hmmmm…
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 4, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants
We need Giants to take a couple of L’s..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Nov 4, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda want the Eagles to get buried in the standings
but I know when that game comes on I will rooting for them to smash up on the Giants. I think their offense matches up well against the Giants’ D.
The Iggles can’t afford to lose in Philly, either.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 4, 2008 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Expectations
It’s time for us, and the team, to start expecting to win every game—to destroy teams on both sides of the ball. Maybe not record-wise, but we are supposed to be a better overall team than last year.
It’s time to start showing it. Just because Jerry & Co. felt too secure with Romo remaining healthy, or Brad still being NFL material, doesn’t mean this season is sunk. All that is over. Nobody in the East should ever sweep this Cowboys team.
Where's Felix?
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 4, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Simple Answer to Your Question
Because they stink!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Nov 4, 2008 9:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
at this time
but the way teams play in the NFL change week to week, month to month, like the direction of the wind.
Id rather stink now and be really good later, than do what we did last year and start off really good and stink later.
Its now how you start, its how you finish.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 4, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the record
It’s the way we are playing across the board – O, D, ST. None of them are above average right now and too often, well below. True, injuries affected play, especially on O (I contend the injury to Felix, coming at the same time as Romo was equally problematic). Add to that a remarkable ability to incur penalties at the worst possible times, and you see a team who creates as many problems for itself as the opposition.
The disturbing part for me is we do not attempt – either through gameplanning or intensity to force our will on the opponent. To make them react to us. Conversely, I don’t see us making the adjustments we need to when an opponent exploits our weakness or takes the fight to us.
It’s almost to the point where the Hippocratic oath should be our mantra to each of the units, ‘First, do no harm.’ Stop making it worse, so we can try to make it better. Don’t give the opposing team the ball in our territory 3x a game. Stop playing 8 yds off the WR’s. And please take a kickoff past the 30 or a punt more than 5 yds downfied.
'You can recognize true genius by this: all the dunces are in confederacy against you' - Sir Francis Bacon
by tdships on Nov 4, 2008 10:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Statements like this make me chuckle
They still get San Fran, Seattle, and Baltimore at home, presumably all with Romo. That puts them at eight victories.
I’ll let you figure out why.
by accidental innuendo on Nov 5, 2008 2:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
because Balt is no gimme
and if we don’t start playing better neither is SF or Seattle.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 5, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Niners have some talent on their team.
Gore can make his O-Line look pretty good against our average D-Line. They also have playmakers on defense in that hybrid 3-4/4-3.
We still owe Seattle a whooping from that playoff loss. On Thanksgiving, in front of a national audience—a real Cowboys team would put up a 40 burger, or a 40 turducken.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 5, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at this point
i am kind of happy that people are writing off the Cowboys because maybe now some of the media will start to dissipate and they will play with less pressure on them
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
by hinduplaya on Nov 5, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Writing off the cowboys
Everyone is writing the Cowboys off because we were expected to play at the level we were last year. For some reason most of the fans think that Romo is just going to come in and save the day, well unless everyone else including coaches step up and only lose two more games then we aren’t going playoffs this year.
by mattyp1214 on Nov 7, 2008 8:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They lost 2 out of 3 with Romo.
That concerns me a lot more than them losing 2 of 3 without him.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 10, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they also won 4 out of 6 with him
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They were clearly trending downward.
They were 3-0 in their first 3 games, then lost 2 out of 3. If you think that’s a positive, then you and I just have a different idea of what it means to play well. Many people are quick to point out that a QB doesn’t win or lose on their own, so I think that it shows that they played just as well without Romo as they did with him.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 10, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no it doesn't
The Cowboys might not have won the last three games with Romo but I guarantee the offense would have produced much better.
The numbers don’t lie, with Romo, the team was averaging close to 30 points per game and 400 yards in total offense, without Romo, they were averaging 14 points per game and less than 300 yards per game.
Having one of the very best qbs in the league under center makes a difference whether you want to believe that or not.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 11, 2008 7:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't fantasy football.
They might have looked prettier doing it, but the results were the same. It doesn’t matter who is under center if the rest of the team doesn’t start playing better.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 11, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the results weren't the same
with Romo, the Cowboys were at least competitive in every game, without Romo, they fielded a completely non competitive team in 2 out of 3 games that had no chance of winning.
I’d say thats a huge difference.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 11, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the NFL will award us an extra win, then.
I thought a loss was a loss, but I guess not. I’m sure our record will be adjusted.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 11, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well if you can't see the difference
between the Skins, Cards losses and the Rams,Giants losses, then there’s no help for you.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 11, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't need help, the Cowboys do.
What a silly statement: “there’s no help for you.” Okay. Since I’m not a member of the team or coaching staff, I don’t know what it has to do with anything. I’m doing pretty good and I’m happy, I just want the Cowboys to win. I’ve seen them lose 4 of their last 6, including 2 of 3 with Romo, so the only help I need is for the team to play better.
That’s the problem with this team and coaching staff, they think that a close loss is as good as a win. They’re satisfied to lose, as long as they put up their own numbers. Romo doesn’t care about turnovers, as long as he makes big plays. That’s why they’ve lost 2 years in a row in the playoffs, and are in a bad spot this year. When Romo finally realizes that not creating big plays for the other team is just as important as creating big plays for his own team, he will truly be one of the very best qbs in the the league. I truly hope he learned that during his time off, and can help to lead the rest of the team to become champions, not just stat compilers.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2008 2:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice try but
Romo’s only turnover in the loss to the Giants came on a 4th down play with no timeouts remaining. It was a last gasp situation akin to a hail mary. He had to force the ball into the end zone at that point. Also, it didn’t help matters that his most reliable receiver Jason Witten didn’t even run a pass route as he had to stay in and pass protect because of how gassed the O-line was. That play hardly falls under the category of reckless turnover. Got it? Good.
The botched snap against the Seahawks was a fluke; not a turnover because Romo was trying to make a big play. How do you even try to make a big play on a field goal hold, genius? Was it as bad as any of Leon Lett’s epic goofs? It was probably even worse. Does it have anything to do with how Romo plays the QB position? Not really unless you believe it’s just part of his overall football character as a perpetual F-UP artist; choker, whatever. Besides, the Cowboys might’ve been leading the game at that point if Terry Glenn hadn’t fumbled an earlier pass from Romo inside the Seahawks 5-yard line.
Also, it’s being facetious to suggest it’s impossible to win with your franchise QB turning the ball over at all in the playoffs. Is it advisable to expect to win when your QB turns the ball over? Absolutely not. However, the 2006 Colts never would’ve even gotten through either of the first 2 rounds of the playoffs if your theory holds true because Peyton Manning threw 1 TD and 5 INT’s against the Chiefs and Ravens. Overall, in those playoffs, he threw only 3 TD and 7 INT’s. Even in the AFC Title game against the Patsies, Peyton threw a bad pick just before halftime that Asante Samuel ran back for a pick-six to put the Colts in a 21-3 hole. The only stats Peyton was compiling in the ’06-’07 playoffs were bad stats and as far as taking care of the football; he was doing anything but that. Kind of shoots your theory in the foot, doesn’t it?
Oh yeah, did I mention that in last year’s AFC Title game, Tom Brady (who was plus-42 in TD/INT ratio during the regular season) threw 3 INT’s against the Chargers including 2 in the red zone?
Even the very best QB’s turn the ball over. Often times, turning the ball over is a cause of being aggressive and unavoidable. To hear somebody like you talk, the likes of Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady never throw more than 5 INT’s in a whole season. Check out how many times some of the big name QB’s have already turned the ball over this season. If Romo was playing horribly before getting injured, they haven’t came up with the word yet to describe how sorry Big Ben has played over the last three weeks.
Even the immortal Troy Aikman also had 14 INT in the year (‘92) in which he posted his career high for TD passes (23). During that same season, there was even a four-game stretch where he threw 2 TD/7 INT. Yet, the Cowboys were still 3-1 over that stretch. Explain that one. In his team’s other two Super Bowl years, Aikman only threw 6 and 7 INT’s yet had the same 9-plus TD/INT ratio both times. That should tell you something right there.
I think we can agree however that it’s not that Romo merely throws INT’s but the type of INT’s he throws. I will say that the problem with at least 3 of Romo’s INT’s this year was that they were either poor throws or downright dumb decisions. However, to expect to Romo to go 3 or 4-game stretches without throwing INT’s probably ain’t in the cards.
If you ask me though, his recent fumbling is still the most alarming cause for concern especially given that nobody knows how healed his thumb really is. The Cowboys were lucky to even be in that game against the Cardinals at the end because Romo got away with two fumbles early; one because of an early whistle and another because of that silly "tuck rule" and the latter would’ve given the Cards a gift-wrapped TD and gave them a huge early lead. Because of Romo’s slippery fingers, the Cowboys should’ve at least been down 17-0 if not for the zebras.
Romo really needs to have a more efficient internal clock to tell him when to tuck the ball down and run or hit his checkdown to avoid more of those inexcusable fumbles. Personally, I’d prefer the O-line to get their arses back in gear so Romo doesn’t have to worry about rushers getting a free run at him and jarring the ball loose. I just don’t know how realistic an expectation that is with this bunch though.
by MadMick on Nov 13, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not singling out Romo,
I’m implicating the whole team, which includes Romo. I’m not saying Romo’s turnovers directly cost them those games, I’m saying that the team’s attitude, reflected in Romo’s attitude toward turnovers, is what cost them those games, as well as their losses this year. Nobody on this team ever thinks they need to do better, they just explain everything away by pointing at actual championship teams. When this group of Cowboys, led by Tony Romo, win something, then I will happily accept the assessment that any mistakes they make are okay as long as they win. Comparing them to previous Super Bowl winners just doesn’t fly, as they can’t even win a playoff game and are in the fight of their lives to just make it in this year.
I did not suggest that it’s impossible to win if your QB turns over the ball. That’s an idea that you created, not me. It’s funny how many flukes Romo seems to have though, isn’t it? At what point do several flukes become a trend? The problem with Romo is he has expressed that he’s not concerned about turning the ball over, as long as he gets his numbers. That’s the problem with this team, they are more worried about their numbers than fundamental, winning football.
You spend the first half of your post sarcastically calling me a genius and trying to refute a point that I did not make, and the second half agreeing that Romo needs to cut down on turnovers. I am not a Romo basher or hater, I love him, but I think he needs a stronger coach to make him realize that he needs to protect the ball better, and that it is a big deal to turn the ball over.
I always laugh at comparisons to Favre, Aikman, the Mannings, and Brady. If you put Romo in that group, then one of those kids is doing his own thing, one of those kids is not the same. One of those kids is not wearing rings, and not it’s time to say his name. It’s Tony Romo.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not so fast......
You lost me at Favre not being a “kid who does his own thing.”
Favre’s disrespect for protecting the football is legendary. His last two memorable postseason moments were “wing and a prayer” bonehead interceptions in overtime. Even though I will grant you that I’ve never much liked the Favre comparisons either because Favre has a cannon Romo simply doesn’t possess. Good ol’ number 4 has the type of cannon that occasionally allows him to complete passes into triple coverage. Romo should never have the slightest notion in his head that he can pull stuff like that and have it end any other way than disastrous; especially the way he forced the ball into the middle of the end zone in triple coverage against the Packers. Yes, that was dumb.
As to your central point, though, I just don’t buy it. It’s abstract at best. The QB doesn’t mind an occasional pick as long as he’s throwing for 3-400 yards and 3-4 TD’s every week. That’s the reason the rest of the team is so undisciplined? Who is the QB they could bring in here that would immediately change the team’s demeanor? Brett Favre? Oh-kay.
by MadMick on Nov 13, 2008 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What has Favre done lately?
Despite the messiah like image that the media has of Favre, his best seasons were in the mid 90s. If you look at the years he went deep into the playoffs and to the Super Bowl during that time, he had a 2:1 to 3:1 TD to Int ratio. In other words, he took better care of the ball back then. Romo has said that it’s not a big deal to throw picks if you are trying to make plays. Well, yes, it is. I’m not suggesting that the team is undisciplined because Romo turns the ball over, I’m saying that Romo turns the ball over because the team is undisciplined.
I don’t think the team’s demeanor can change with just a QB change, which is my entire point. It doesn’t matter who is under center as long as this team is undisciplined like they are. I want Romo to be the Cowboys QB, and I want him to win championships, but he can’t be as flippant about turning the ball over. Why is he that way? Because the coaching staff allows him to be. The rest of the team is that way about their mistakes, too. Just because Romo is healthy doesn’t mean this team is good again. They were playing poorly before he got hurt. It’s going to take more than Romo in the lineup for them to win Sunday, it’s going to take him playing better than he was before he got hurt, and the rest of the team playing better than they have so far this season.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2008 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo was the kid doing his own thing,
as in not winning playoff games and super bowls. He doesn’t have the credit built up to say that it’s okay, he’ll get it done when it counts. Everyone compares him to those guys, but he hasn’t accomplished what they have, so the comparison is unfair.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What has Peyton Manning ever accomplished when it counted?
When the Colts finally did win the whole thing, Peyton played more like Rex Grossman than Peyton Manning. He should’ve at least bought Reche Caldwell a steak dinner because if Caldwell doesn’t drop a few easily catchable passes, Peyton would’ve gotten punked by Bellichick yet again.
Peyton Manning just isn’t the same kind of sacred cow to me he is to you or most folks. Peyton is an excellent comparison to Romo because it took him until his 6th year to even win a single playoff game and when he finally did get a ring it wasn’t because he even played that good.
As for Favre, you’re not telling me anything I didn’t already know about him being past his prime.
by MadMick on Nov 13, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't assign opinions to me.
I only mentioned Peyton Manning, Favre, and the others because you brought them up. I hardly consider Peyton to be a sacred cow, and I am not, in fact, Hindu. I do consider him to be a Super Bowl winner, which Tony has not done yet. You were the one that called Peyton one of the very best QBs, not me. He’s a top notch choke artist, and I was shocked that they won it all. However, that’s the thing. Just because the Giants got hot last year, or because Favre turns the ball over and won a Super Bowl, or because it took Peyton Manning 6 years to win doesn’t mean that the Cowboys will now magically win it all. The whole team needs to play better, including Tony Romo. If he plays like he was before his injury, and the team plays like they were before and after his injury, they will continue to lose. They may lose by closer scores than the Rams and Giants games, but they will still lose.
You also mentioned Drew Brees, which I think is a better comparison to Romo, as his team is also fighting for their playoff lives, and he has never won the Super Bowl either. As soon as Romo wins one, I will accept all of the arguments that it’s okay for him to make big mistakes as long as he makes big plays, all of the great QBs have bad games, etc. He hasn’t even had that many picks compared to TDs this year, but they have come at key moments, and when put with his fumbles, they have been costly. What bothers me is how nonchalant he is about turning the ball over, which in turn puts the defense in a bad spot. Every QBs goal should be to not turn the ball over, and make big plays, not one or the other.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A loss may be a loss......
But I truly believe Tony Romo with an amputated throwing arm gives you just as good a chance to win as you have with Brad Johnson at the helm. The old man can’t make short throws, intermediate throws, and as for long throws, yeah, he might air out a 15 or 20-yard bomb on occasion.
Without an actual QB, the defense stacks the line with 8 or 9 in the box and as much of a monster as Marion Barber is, he’s not Barry Sanders so that’s just not a situation conducive to running the ball effectively. With Brad Johnson at the helm, the Cowboys were a one-dimensional team. The other team knows you can’t pass so they do everything in their power to take away the run. Football 101, really.
But no, you’re right. The Cowboys were just as dangerous an offense with Brad Johnson at the helm as they were with Romo. A LAWS IS A LAWS!
by MadMick on Nov 13, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I guess the NFL will be awarding us a couple of retro-victories anytime now.
Where did I say the offense was as powerful or dynamic with BJ as Romo? I merely pointed out that with either guy under center, they lost 2 of 3. It’s going to take more than just Romo coming back to right the ship, like the entire team playing well for an entire game. If they had gone 6-0, or 5-1 with Romo, I would agree that him just showing up is good enough to guarantee victories, but they were already struggling when he got hurt. He can play lights out, mistake free football, but unless everyone else plays well, it won’t matter. However, he was also part of the problem when they were healthy, and hopefully the time off enabled him to figure out where he needed to improve, and he can lead the rest of the team to victory.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2008 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone just needs to clam down
And realize that Romo is only in his 2nd full season as the starter. This guy is just getting started with his NFL career and he’s still learning the game. By the time he’s 32 to 33, (usually considered the peak age for an NFL QB); his football smarts will catch up with his abilities and then look out. The kind of mistakes he’s making now are typical of a young quarter back.
Most of the team is still very young but for a few spots. As long as this group has the right coaching staff, (which I don’t think they do presently) and they substitute aging players with comparable replacements then they should win a super bowl within the next five seasons.
by gee-roj on Nov 14, 2008 7:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh-oh.
they should win a super bowl within the next five seasons
Don’t let Jerry hear you say that. He wants to win yesterday.
I agree with you completely. I think this team is a year or 2 away, and then is poised for a few titles, as long as they continue to build instead of trying to reload. And step one is a better coaching staff. I hope they can turn it around this year, but from what I’ve seen, I don’t think this is their year.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 14, 2008 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
10-6
I see a lot of people on here claiming that Dallas needs to finish 5-2 over these last 7 games. I maintain that they will need to go 6-1, at worst. The NFC south runner-up has a good chance of finishing 11-5 as do the Redskins and thus 10-6 record just won’t cut it. At the very least the Cowboys might find themselves in a multi-team tie breaker and they don’t have a very good conference record right now. As it is I just don’t have confidence that this coaching staff can pull off a 5-2 finish much less a 6-1 ending.
by gee-roj on Nov 11, 2008 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
its too early to tell really
I mean do you really think the Falcons will go 10-6 or 11-5? With a rookie qb, highly unlikely. I like Matt Ryan and think he’ll be a great qb in the league someday, he’s just not there quite yet.
I also see TB having a very hard time reaching 11 wins, it would really surprise me if they did.
NFC North will not produce a WC because I see the Bears winning that division with 9 or 10 wins while both Packers and Vikings will be hard pressed to win 10 games.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 11, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep hoping
And expecting Atlanta to go away but they keep plugging along.
In all honesty I see the Bucs, Skins and Eagles as Dallas’ biggest challenge towards a wild card. If the boys finish 11-5 they’re definitely in. If they manage a 10-6 finish they could potentially be an ugly 3 way tie for the final spot. sigh
At this point I just want to see them beat the Skins this Sunday. I HATE getting swept by the Skins.
by gee-roj on Nov 11, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bucs have been overachieving and winning
games they shouldn’t all year. Don’t expect it to keep happening.
by Mandmeisterx on Nov 11, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The key for the Bucs
Is that they get three of their most difficult remaining games at home. So far, there’s been a huge disparity between the way the Bucs defense plays at home and on the road. They do visit Carolina and even though Delhomme played awful the first time around against the Bucs, I’d still expect the Panthers to at least split that season series. The Bucs have five highly competitive games remaining and I could easily see them losing three more games. They’re a solid team with some veterans that won’t shoot themselves in the foot too often but I just don’t consider them a real contender to ultimately do anything other than to creep into the playoffs.
As for the Falcons, Ryan certainly looks like the real deal. Although since he is a rookie, I’d agree it’s certainly logical to expect him to have a couple of stinkers down the stretch particularly against teams like Carolina and the Bucs. On the other hand, the Falcons have a solid one/two punch running the ball in Turner and Norwood and the same receivers who could never get in synch with Vick are finally catching the ball. I don’t know if the Falcons have any so-called offensive whiz kids on their staff but Redball would’ve been well served to have been taking notes this weekend on a short little pass the Falcons threw to Jerious Norwood that turned into 60-plus yard touchdown. I’ll be very disappointed if the Ivy League wunderkind doesn’t at least try to utilize Felix on a couple of similar pass plays whenever he returns.
The thing working against the Falcons is they don’t have any real cupcakes down the stretch except for St. Louis in their season finale. They play the second leg of their division schedule and they also play the Broncos and Chargers; who as underwhelming as they have been so far will still be no gimmes for a young Falcons team. Then, the Falcons still also have to play the Vikings who are capable of beating any of the other wannabes as long as AP goes off. Let’s also not forget that two of the Falcons wins came against the Lions and the Chefs and the fashion in which they beat the Bears was nothing short of miraculous. If the Falcons do manage to get in, they’ll have been battle-tested enough that they might actually win a few games.
At any rate, I’m certain the best either the Falcons or Bucs will do is 10-6.
Also, I’m just not sold on Fat Andy’s filthy flock. They’ve either outright blown games (squandering a double digit lead to the ‘Skins) or lost because of their inability to convert short yardage situations (this last game against the Giants and earlier against the Bears.) Plus, they always seem to turn it on approximately when they’re actually eliminated from playoff contention.
As I see it, if the Cowboys don’t make it, the scenario that will most likely knock them out is losing tiebreakers to the Falcons due to them having a better conference record and getting swept by the ‘Skins.
by MadMick on Nov 11, 2008 1:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love being right.
So far, at least.
If you told me during preseason that at some point I'd be cheering a Brad Johnson to Roy Williams touchdown to take the lead I probably would have told you that you were crazy.
by california fan on Nov 17, 2008 12:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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