Wade Phillips Press Conference: 12/11/08
by Dave Halprin on Dec 11, 2008 4:05 PM CST
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Summary of Wade Phillips' press conference today.
We're not putting Adam Jones on IR yet but he won't play this week. I don't know what the doctors said or didn't say, and we don't know long term. Marion Barber didn't practice and is still iffy, he's still limping some. He ran straight-head but cutting on it was a problem. We'll try to get him ready. We held out Keith Davis for precautionary reasons, he did fine yesterday, we wanted to be safe. I think he'll practice tomorrow. Ken Hamlin will probably be out all week, game time for him, Montrae Holland will be out and probably won't play. L.P. Ladouceur was out with a neck but we think he'll be fine. Roy Williams is out all week but we think he'll play, we're just trying get the foot well. Miles Austin was limited but he's come on, he looked good today, there is a possibility he could play. That wasn't in the plan in the beginning of week, but we're adjusting, he looked 100% for the times he did practice today. Jason Witten is limited with the sprained ankle, he felt better, looks like he'll play. Everybody else practiced.
There is more below the jump.
(Why not IR for Adam, could he play against Baltimore or later?) I don't think Adam will play against Baltimore, but whoever we bring in this week would be inactive anyway, so we'll wait and see next week if we put him on IR and who is to replace him. He's going to be inactive this week, we don't need to do anything right now. We don't know all the reports as to his coming back this season but it sounds slim. It's positive that it wasn't a career-threatening situation, he won't need an operation. That's what our docs said, too, but the injury could last for awhile.
If Miles Austin is back he could return kicks. Both he and Isaiah Stanback do a good job, we like either one.
Marion Barber made a little progress but not overwhelming. It's a case of him getting a feel and us getting a feel for how much he can do, straight ahead running he's OK but we need to see if he can cut. A game time decision, him going out before the game to test it if possible or like last week it might be obvious he can't go.
(What about the meeting between Jason Garrett and some receivers?) I don't know anything except what Jason said, we invite all our players to talk and communicate, we do that all the time, not just receivers, they are all allowed to talk about what they're feeling and how to get better. (Is it a problem they think Tony shows favoritism to Witten?) I don't know anything about favoritism, I'm not sure that's the case. We've passed for a lot of yards to a lot of players. One WR is close to 1,000 yards already. I don't think there's anything to that. It's not anything serious, we encourage communication, I think we handle it well, both players and coaches. (Does Romo have tunnel-vision for Witten?) No tunnel vision, the Steelers played Cover 2, that's what we wanted was to use the middle on that. Witten was open on a fourth and 2 and we threw deep rather take what is there. Go to the guy who is open. It doesn't concern me. Tony is the QB, he always takes the blame like the coach. That's part of being a QB because you get a lot of glory when you win, the players know he cares enough to take blame, not every QB does that. The other players think they're open and they want the ball. Part of what Terrell Owens says is I want to win, and if you get me the ball it will help us win. That's not a bad thing.
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Rift between Romo/Owens/Witten
Once again, not sure why BTB isn’t reporting this:
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 11, 2008 4:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow, I'd like to know who the unnamed player source is
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 11, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't make sense
the unnamed player was talking about T.O., I’m thinking its Crayton cause he isn’t getting any balls lately despite being open all the time.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 11, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say it, but it may be time to unload TO
If he is starting this crap…
2009 Draft here we come........
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 11, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T.O. is my favorite player but I agree.
I just wonder if Romo and Garrett could relax more if he wasnt around?
I mean what if Romo only had to worry about hitting the open man?
Channeling my inner Pacman.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 11, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because its BS
I’m sure TO complained about getting the ball more, so what’s new? If they had won last week, you wouldn’t hear any of this crap. If you believe BSPN, the entire Cowboys locker room is a powder keg filled with divas.
Come on people, do let MSM brainwash you.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 11, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DON'T let MSM brainwash you
see, I’m already falling into their trap :)
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 11, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking this time Werder is on point...
Because Mickey even said when talking to the Ticket he thinks it sounds like it has some truth to it. I hate Werder with a passion, but it sounds like some players got to the boiling point and opened there mouth. Jason Witten sounds like one of the players talking and Romo danced around the question when asked. If you think the crap is bad now wait and see if we lose on Sunday. The distractions are going get worse as we get closer to Sunday night.
2009 Draft here we come........
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 12, 2008 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Consider the Source
T.O. refuses to answer any of Ed Werder’s questions in press conferences but now Ed has ironclad evidence of T.O.‘s state of mind, and it’s (gasp) volatile?
Right. And Ed was so right about Demarcus Ware not playing last week.
He’s headed down the Skip Bayless road and somebody has cut his brakes.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 4:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
consider the source?
all you have to do is look at Owen’s post game comments from the Steelers game, Romo and Witten accept blame, TO blames Romo. C’mon man, we’d all like to “consider the source” and believe it’s not true, but at some point, you really start believing. If you’re telling me T.O. is innocent here, well, all the power to you.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 11, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying T.O. isn't angry
but Ed isn’t exactly an exemplar of journistic integrity.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T.O. may be angry because he's competitive
But not necessarily a personal issue with Romo. They make fun of him because of “That’s my quarterback!” and now there’s a big personal rift. Not buying it.
by illcowboy on Dec 11, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is payback for ED............
I promise you that part of this is Ed paying back Romo for calling two of his colleagues Dumb and Dumber. Ed Werder has zero creditability with me. Not that i think T.O. wouldnt do this, but Werder is a disgrace.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 11, 2008 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only consider the source...
…consider the timing.
I’m not saying this is a wholly manufactured controversy, but it’s not an accident that the story is coming out now, on ESPN, when the Cowboys are about to play the Giants and especially in the wake of the Plaxico Burress bombshell and Jacobs possibly being injured. Haven’t heard a lot about Plaxico lately, have we? Yes, he didn’t get his bonus today but the point is Cowboys-hating outlets like ESPN don’t want to flog that horse during Cowboys week. So, you have Ed Turder go around and build a story you know will get a lot of play, will hopefully distract the Cowboys and will become the focus of the coverage on Sunday Night Football. This is typical stuff, it’s not accidental and it’s the kind of thing you often see in political reporting.
I’m not saying there’s no story here. There is, clearly. But the timing of it and the depths Werder went to in seeking it out gives away the agenda here. And now, if you didn’t know, you know why T.O. never talks to Werder.
Media outlets like ESPN don’t want the story heading into the game being “NYG injured, sans Plaxico and coming off a tough home loss.” They want the story to be “December Cowboys swooning and in turmoil.” So they help create that narrative with pieces like this. And the local media, or many of them, are only too willing to help out.
The ‘Boys will just have to fight through this crap. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like they will have Holland to help them out. And maybe not Hamlin. That could have a lot more to do with the outcome of the game than some fake Romo/TO rift, but if the Cowboys lose rest assured the injuries won’t be mentioned and the QB/WR rift and December ‘swoon’ will get top billing.
by PaulFVillarreal on Dec 11, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm very happy to see Austin coming back strong
Williams is a plantar fascia injury and those can be painful and slow you down.
Dallas needs Austin badly if Williams is being slowed down.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Years ago I thought Ed Werder was a good reporter
Now he seems to work for a tabloid. The only source that I know he has is that unnamed Cowboys player that we can’t seem to get off the roster.
by illcowboy on Dec 11, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know for a fact that Ed makes sources up
Don’t ask me how. I can’t tell you without burning a source, but I know he makes up stuff.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thnik for the injury report
Wade should just give the players that are healthy… that would take less time to rattle off
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 11, 2008 4:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That would be funny, Mullin
if it were not so true.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately it is true
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 11, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Weiner is just trying to keep his job
It’s obvious no one will talk to him, ESPN need to send him to cover Seattle or Minn or Green Bay You know someplace really cold! LOL
by bad knees on Dec 11, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Like the NFL version of being banished to Siberia?
I like it
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Detroit?
It’s cold. They stink. And when he makes stuff up about a terrible team no one will call him on it.
by illcowboy on Dec 11, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I ignore most everything
that comes out of the mouth of Ed Werder and his anonymous (I think imaginary is a better term) sources.
by Philosopher on Dec 11, 2008 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I go
One step further with ESPN…I usually don’t even listen to what they say when it comes to the Cowboys.
by joey7289 on Dec 11, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
an unnamed espn reporter
told me that ed werder makes up quotes, sources, and friends.
I commented. You're welcome.
another transplant from The Blue & Silver Report
by bulldog jeeper on Dec 12, 2008 4:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my take as an outsider....
There have been games when Witten killed us with reception after reception for first downs and big gains over the middle. He sometimes seems unstopable. Last week he was off his game. It could be because he is not 100% or he may have just had a lousy game. It happens to the best of them, even TO.
It pains me to say it but TO, at his best, is a much bigger scoring threat than Witten even thugh he has fewer touchdown passes.. He is an incredible talent and one of the greatest game breakers the league has ever seen.. Yes, he is mentally very fragile, and yes, he is selfish. so are most receivers. They just don’t show it to the press. So it is worth trying to coddle him a little, because his upside is so great.
In the link from the first post a story is related by an unnamed player about how TO complained he wasn’t geting enugh touches and the very next game he had 213 yards including a 75 yard touchdown. To my way of thinking no team member should complain about that. It’s 213 yards! Tell me why every sngle player on the team shouldn’t be happy he did that? Isn’t the object to make the plays that help you win?
I can’t believe I’m defending TO…..LOL
by giant fan since 57 on Dec 11, 2008 5:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your efforts are laudable. If I may, are you trying to become a Cowboys fan? You will be most welcome. Now to what you saud " Receivers are greedy". Yes they are else why would they be named "Receivers"? Peace out.
by letsgogetonefellas on Dec 11, 2008 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No way...I'm just looking at it objectively...
If I were a Dallas fan I wouldn’t care who the hell got 213 yards receiving as long as he was on my team.
But I’m not a Dallas fan…..so I’m hoping this controversy will take your team’s focus off the game. It’s the kind of strife that would never have been tolerated by Parcells. Blame Jerry Jones….
by giant fan since 57 on Dec 11, 2008 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like...
Owens, Williams and Crayton went to Garrett and had it out with him, complaining about Witten and Romo diagramming their own plays.
This freakin’ blows.
"Remember this. Bear Bryant retired at age 69, and he died 28 days after he stopped coaching. If you don't have something, and a purpose in your life, you're gonna die."- Lou Holtz (funny old man)
by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Dec 11, 2008 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"had it out with him"???
Since you were there, what else did they argue about…
by commoncents on Dec 11, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wasnt there...
what Galloway is reporting.
"Remember this. Bear Bryant retired at age 69, and he died 28 days after he stopped coaching. If you don't have something, and a purpose in your life, you're gonna die."- Lou Holtz (funny old man)
by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Dec 11, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
being reported in many places, on local dallas media stations
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we definitely didn’t need this heading into the Giants game.
"Remember this. Bear Bryant retired at age 69, and he died 28 days after he stopped coaching. If you don't have something, and a purpose in your life, you're gonna die."- Lou Holtz (funny old man)
by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Dec 11, 2008 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
need what?
they sat down with the coach to discuss what’s working and what’s not working… did i miss something or did red duke it out with roy and terrell?
by commoncents on Dec 11, 2008 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if what is being reported is accurate and Werder isn’t making up these comments made by his anonymous sources, then yeah there are gonna be problems in that huddle come Sunday afternoon.
there has to be some truth to some of this when the entire media in the Metroplex is reporting the same.
take a chill pill Thomas Paine.
"Remember this. Bear Bryant retired at age 69, and he died 28 days after he stopped coaching. If you don't have something, and a purpose in your life, you're gonna die."- Lou Holtz (funny old man)
by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Dec 11, 2008 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"there has to be some truth to some of this when the entire media in the Metroplex...
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...is reporting the same?
So that makes it true?
Because Nina Shahavan was telling the truth.
Because T.O. really did try to commit suicide with pills two years ago.
Right. It’s all true.
So what if it is? Look at the story:
T.O. is mad cause Tony dumped him for Jason!
The new kid Roy is mad cause Tony won’t let him sit at the cool kids table!
And where is Tony? Hiding with Jessica or Jason?
Despair! Pathos! Betrayal! Envy! Despair!
Get your popcorn ready? Grab the boxes of kleenex and bon bons and find some pearls to clutch. This is better than any afternoon soap. How many weeks has something like this been sold, just this last month? The week before the Redskins game. The week of the 49ers game. The week before the Steelers game and now.
Until I see video of guys slugging it out in the locker room, I see a lot of people getting sucked, to use that choice Parcellsism.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Presents Playmakers Season 2
They are still fuming they had to cancel their show after the first season, so
they are writing Season 2 at our expense.
by Captain Comeback on Dec 11, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't be serious
The cloud of controversy that follows Owens is a creation of ESPN.
The WRs are wondering why Romo isn’t getting them the ball. Um… so f’ing what? What’s wrong with that?
It’s being “reported” because it’s inflammatory. It doesn’t need to be true.
by Joey2zs on Dec 11, 2008 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a creation of ESPN huh!!
Here’s brad Sham and Larry Brown talking about the drama queen, both think he should be gone.
is this Gossip too, the voice of the cowboys and a former player
http://dcfanatic.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/shambrown_candid_dec82008.mp3
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that is some damning stuff concerning T.O.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Dec 11, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm listening to GAC...
LBOH and Moseley , along with Clarence Hill from the Star-Telegram are reporting same. They all have inside access to Valley Ranch and there’s some credence to this story.
The Werder story may be over the top but when the receivers go to the offensive coordinator saying the distribution of the football is a little too much in WItten’s favor, well…. why not just go to Tony?
Look, there is something there. I don’t know what it is and I hope it is just much ado about nothing but you don’t just pull a story out of your butt and have the local media buy into.
"Remember this. Bear Bryant retired at age 69, and he died 28 days after he stopped coaching. If you don't have something, and a purpose in your life, you're gonna die."- Lou Holtz (funny old man)
by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Dec 11, 2008 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe based on the plays that are being called, Witten is the first read
Which would make it an issue to take up with the guy who calls the plays, not the guy who executes them
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody should be the first read disproportionately
Of course, that can vary game to game depending on the D’s tendencies, but with talent like Witten, TO, RW2, and solid young guys like Austin and Bennett, the ball legitimately should be spread around more than it has been.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T.O is right now since Romo has come back from injury
so his complaints of Witten getting the ball to much is a red herring.
here are the charted throws to the receivers since Romo came back from his broken pinky.
1. Terrell Owens: 40 passes (20 catches)
2. Jason Witten: 27 passes (18 catches)
3. Roy Williams: 18 passes (10 catches)
4. Marion Barber: 17 passes (14 catches)
5. Tashard Choice: 12 passes (8 catches)
6. Patrick Crayton: 8 passes (6 catches)
7. Martellus Bennett: 6 passes (6 catches)
8. Miles Austin: 3 passes (2 catches)
9. Tony Curtis: 2 passes (1 catch)
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/12/fun-with-numbers-romos-targets-since-his.html
Now who’s getting the ball thrown his way too much, it’s T.O. So his whining is not justified, since he doesn’t run great routes, breaks off of his route constantly and quits on routes..You cant argue with Sham and Brown, who echoed what I’ve said. It’s clear to me watching these games, Romo is forcing too many balls to Owens to try to keep him from complaining and its clear late in games, Romo doesn’t trust T.O to run the right routes, that’s why he’s looking to Witten, he comfortable with Wittten to run the correct route. I believ there should be more balance, but those passes need to be taken away from T.O, not Witten
Aikman’s first read was Irvin and the go to guy, Novachek was his security blanket. With Romo, Witten is the go to guy and the security blanket on this club, he has trust with his route running.
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you heard the convo?
You were in the meeting Deke?
TO may not like the routes he is running.. He may see oppurtunites that we can exploit, but you are so quick to think it is negative..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 11, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
do you not listen to T.O's interviews
it’s not sandlot football, you run precise routes that are called, you dont quit on a route, you dont run what you want out there. It’s got nothing to do with negative, it that the only defense and word in your vocabulary
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not arguing that TO doesn't get thrown to enough
I’m arguing that there are too many weapons on this offense that aren’t being taken advantage of. Bennett, Crayton, and especially Roy Williams need to have more looks in the passing game. According to your numbers, 51% of passes are thrown to TO and Witten. That would be fine if they were all we had, but we’ve got very talented guys in Crayton, Roy, and Bennett getting only 24 % of the passes thrown to them, combined.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some receivers only get on the field in certain packages
So they’re going to have alot less passes thrown their way. I completely agree the ball needs to be spread out more, its just too T.O heavy.
Austin has been injured, so I’d take Austin out of that equation.
Bennett is only going to get maybe three balls his way, he’s in for mostly blocking and split time with Curtis
Crayton out of all the receivers has a complaint, he’s disappeared from this offense. I dont know if Tony isn’t looking his way because he’s trying to get it to T.O or he’s just not getting open.
I think the cowboys should use more of the backs coming out of the backfield.
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of it is the designed read vs the actual read.
Like all of us, I wasn’t there, didn’t draw up the plays, and am not any of the people involved. So when I give my opinion, save all that, because right back at you.
So, I think T.O.’s gripe is that many passes to him are off, resulting in incompletions, due to Romo looking to Witten first when someone else is the true first read on the play. For example, on the play that cost the Cowboys the game, perhaps Witten was supposed to be the second or third option, and TO the first. Instead of looking at TO first and throwing if he is open, he looked for Witten and went to him. Or on other plays, particularly slants, instead of looking to the receivers first, he looks to Witten first, then comes back to the receivers, resulting in late throws or the coverage catching up.
Last night when I was watching the Bears/Saints game, I noticed that two QBs who I consider inferior to Romo, one far inferior, were completing the slants at a better rate and looked sharper throwing them than Romo. Why? Because they were getting the ball out sooner.
I think that’s what the receivers were voicing, that if the designed first and second reads are receivers, and if they are not there, go to Witten, then that’s how the play should go. At this point, the read order on every play seems to be Witten, TO, check down, Crayton or Williams. I also think that it has hampered Witten’s effectiveness, because he is not a burner, but with a couple of seconds will find a seam or beat a LB or safety. By making him the first option on plays that are not designed as such, he does not have the time to find the soft spot in zones or work over his man to man coverage.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 12, 2008 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Romo trusts him to run the route correctly
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 11, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Every word of it it is true. So what?
1. Did play calling cost Dallas the game or Romo’s poor play? To that point, Romo forced a ball to T.O. on a key 4th and 3 early in the game when Witten was wide open in the middle. If T.O. is whining he’s whining.
2. How many games has tunnel vision to Witten cost Dallas? They lost the Redskins game where Romo threw to Owens what, 12, 14 times?
— they lost the Cardinals game because the offensive line collapsed and Romo was killed.
— he didn’t factor into the Rams and Giants losses.
Even if every word of this is true, so what? There’s no proof that it’s cost the Cowboys any games.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 11, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
This is only a story because it concerns the cowboys..
Portis rips his HC, basically says he should be traded or released, they seat down for 10 minutes make up, and bam the story is dead..
Anything that happens in Dallas is going to blown out of proportion. I think Romo forces it TO and Witten, oh well..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 11, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
All is forgiven and who cares, because it’s the Skins. But anyone on the Cowboys says this stuff on a radio show and you’d never hear the end of it.
I’m serious when I say, if you don’t want to listen to all this BS, you almost have to go into MSM blackout. It sucks, but that’s what its come to.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 11, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and furthermore...
the “story” is that ed werder is “reporting” something or other. It’s people gossiping about someone else’s gossip.
by Joey2zs on Dec 11, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Time for this clown to go after the season
It’s only going to get worse in the locker room with T.O in there. I would of never signed this clown to an extension….
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Better get rid of Williams and Crayton too
since they are apparently complaining just as loudly.
Maybe they are just telling Garrett his play calling sucks this year. Lots of truth in that…
by Philosopher on Dec 11, 2008 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it suddenly gonna get worse?
TO has been here for years, and has been by all accounts a good guy in the locker room. Anytime the team struggles, the TO Implosion Countdown just has to start up again.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder when Parcells and TO are gonna have it out!!!
oh wait….
by commoncents on Dec 11, 2008 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T.O was even whining and complaining to deion after a cowboy win
He’s never happy, it’s not about wins with him, it’s all about him and his STATS, not winning
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What should he have done differently here?
He didn’t call Garrett out in the media, he and two other receivers (who for some reason aren’t catching any flack) went and had a meeting with their offensive coordinator BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. It isn’t his fault its been leaked. What should they have done? Just kept on watching the passing game focus away from open guys? I think it shows a lot about TO as a leader that he wanted the ball spread around, because i doubt he went in there with 2 other receivers and demanded that they just throw to him more.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PLease, dont use T.O and leader in the same sentence, T.O never was a leader and never will be
He threw Garrett under the bus in the interview with deion, now he’s throwing Witten under the bus. He’s been making comments after games, including the Pittsburgh game about Tony not throwing it to him, as he said, on the INT that was run back for a score, I was open on the play but he threw it somewhere else. Did you not see T.O spouting off at the receivers coach on the sideline. If it’s a receivers meeting, why isn’t all the receivers, and tightends in the meeting too. Why is Wade Phillips oblivious to all this, he’s the head coach….
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a receivers meeting
It was a group of offensive guys who had a concern and went to the offensive coordinator about it. It’s not like TO threw Witten under the bus to the media. Why is the story that “TO threw Witten under the bus”? There were two other receivers in the room who had the same concerns, but all focus in the reports goes to TO. Besides, how can you put any credibility to Werder’s “story” its an obvious slam piece against a player who won’t give him the time of day. If there is a rift there, I’ll believe it when I hear Owens say it (one thing I think we’d agree on is that Owens will talk about it if he feels disrespected)
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
three receivers from reports, T.O, Crayton and Williams went to Garrett,
SO why aren’t the other receivers there, why doesn’ t the headcoach have no clue about this meeitng, I guess the other receivers suggestions are not worthy??
Crayton told one story on the radio that there was a meeting and then Told todd archer there was no meeting, I think maybe someone in th organization told Crayton to shut it…
Werder doesn’t care if T.O talks to him or not. EPSN has him covering the cowboys because he’s got sources in the organization. Players and assistants will talk to you if you dont disclose their names about what’s going on behind the scenes. I do believe there is a rilft starting in the locker room
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Others such as whom?
Stanbach? Bennett would have a legitimate gripe I suppose, but its not generally a good idea for rookies to question coaching. But those three are the other playmakers on the team. The guys who believe they can make a difference. I’ll spot you TO. He is certainly getting the ball thrown to him enough. But Crayton and Williams have a very legitimate concern, at least in my opinion. But other than the three that were there, Isaiah Stanbach and Miles Austin are the only other receivers on the team (not on IR). Austin has been hurt, so I doubt he’s worried about his role over the last few weeks, and Stanbach probably knows he has a lot of work to do before he goes asking for more opportunities.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about Crayton
buthe shoots his mouth off too much as it is, he’s unhappy because Wiliams has taken his number two spot on the roster. Williams just han’t had enough timing with Romo, its a trust factor, remember Romo was out for four weeks when Williams arrived, so I would have a problem if he’s complaining, he just doesn’t have a complaint when he hasn’t been here all year, and hasn’t worked enough with Romo
It was suppose to be a meeting to talk over ideas, if that’s the case as some here think it was, then all the receivers should be in there. The younger players could learn something from the vets, and their thinking of what routes might work in the offense iin certain defenses. I think that maybe some of the roles of these players need to be defined and what is expected of them because htis offense has been a mixed bag
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll definitely give you that there should be more defined roles on the team
Such as, if Williams is the No. 2 receiver, why doesn’t he get more opportunities, and if Crayton was solid in the slot last time he was used there, why isn’t that being taken advantage of? I realize that there is a trust that has to develop between a QB and his receiver, but I still feel that if you have a guy with the talent of Roy on the field, you have to find some way to use him. That’s a good way of developing that trust. If Roy is making plays, Romo will have more confidence in him when he needs to look for an open man.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in total agreement that Williams should be getting the ball more
Use Slants or a double move or a deep out, sometihng that if they nniss fire, there’s a less chance of getting it picked off but again, I think Romo is trying to get it into the hands of T.O, trying to keep him happy. If Williams gets more balls his way, then the guy complaining will be T.O, he’ll be the one that loses those pass attempt.
But hey, I think this team is a power running team that passes too much in the first place and is too much of a finese team, needs a more balanced attack and a more power running attack setting up play action, but that’s me. Hence is why I would like Norv Turner running the offense
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially with Procter in at guard, they need to pound it more
He’s a better run blocker than pass protector, and on passing plays the Giants are gonna have a huge bulls-eye on his back.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dumb question
do you really think in the heat of the game, when it’s all on the line, romo is worried about getting TO touches?
or do you think he’s doing that thing that QBs are supposed to do? you know, getting the ball to the open receiver?
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by bulldog jeeper on Dec 12, 2008 5:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kurt Warner
If can find a way to a way to spread around to 3 guys Romo needs to do the same.. I love Romo, but I love to see him spread it around.. We have become predictable..
Play action on 1st down, run it on 2nd down, and throw to Witten or TO on 3rd..
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by Wmillion on Dec 12, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i was going to agree...
when i thought you were talking about ed werder
but keep TO. sure he’s a headache, but he’s a player who gives everything in practice, and plays games w passion
i’ll take that over somebody who’s content running routes, never touching the ball, and who doesn’t care
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by bulldog jeeper on Dec 12, 2008 4:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
its werder
didnt he say ware was gonna be out of the game last sunday when everywhere else it said hes gonna play
and crayton was wide open a atleast 4-5 different plays
one play i actually looked for crayton and followed him and he had a wide open post
i mean if they’re gonna try to shut down t.o. and witten get roy or crayton the ball
they’re both capable…aside from a HUGE drop or two i think crayton had a solid season as the #2 last year
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by MrMinority on Dec 11, 2008 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And Jerry thought Barber could of played with his sore pinky toe, didn't even make the trip and was called out by Jerry
Werder said Ware was going to test it in warmup and could be a gametime decision, not that he was out.
by Deke on Dec 11, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this meeting should have taken place much sooner
and whoever leaked this story on the team should be shot. This is the last thing this team needs heading into sunday night. But now that the cat is out of the bag, Jerry needs to get rid of TO. Is he really worth this BS. This dude has the potential to divide the lockerroom like he did in all his previous spots, and in the long run, he’s just not worth the drama.
by juniorb on Dec 11, 2008 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
tick, tick, tick
KABOOM!
Once T.O. starts going off, he cannot stop himself. This is SF and Philly all over again. Like the story of the snake and the turtle: “Why did I bite you? How can you ask that, you knew I was a snake when I climbed on your back.”
Get the stale popcorn ready…
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by oldasquick on Dec 11, 2008 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
or so fans in Philly and San Fran wish
because it will justify what they’ve been saying for the last couple years.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Dec 11, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
does it seem
like Jerry gets worse every year with his needing the limelight ? I am afraid this will surely catch up with this team if it hasn’t already. His signing of distracting players is really starting to get old. Now it seems to be leaking over to other guys on this team. All I want is a good playoff team and instead we have this crap to watch! Please give me a good Cowboys team for Christmas!
by cowboyz4ever on Dec 11, 2008 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This
is just getting too funny ….. give the media a little bite, and they jump at it now.
They got a guy from Philly on there, talking about this is "just what the Eagles need …. " good lord.
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by what_the_crap on Dec 11, 2008 5:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey what the crap,
That guy from philly has probably been waiting four years to do that…..
hilarious.
by THEjarhead on Dec 11, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what?
If we get a ‘W’ next week every thing will be hunky dory and it will be old news.
by quincyyyyy on Dec 11, 2008 5:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by TrueBlue24 on Dec 11, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+2
Just win, it’s the only way to shut up the media.
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by APerfectStar on Dec 11, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i cant
believe half of you are buying into this…are their problems, probably yes but to the extent ESPN is making them out to be…probably not.
by joey7289 on Dec 11, 2008 6:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Exactly, problem is it thursday, and we just can’t wait for the game..
Calm Down.. I am not sure how WR’s talking to a coach is a bad thing.. 75% of you have complained about JG’s play calling, the WR’s agreed, and now it is a problem.. Wow..
I think guys on the ground level always have a better idea of what is going on, JG being ex-player gets that more than anyone..
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by Wmillion on Dec 11, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Take everything you read on ESPN and hear from Galloway with a giant grain of salt...
I just got off the phone with my dad, who called me to tell me about a Crayton interview on 105.3 WFAN (Some new sports station in Dallas).
Crayton said the following, and I am paraphrasing what my dad paraphrased: Ed Werder is full of CRAP. He said the thing with Garrett today was an instance of Garrett calling each of the receivers into his office INDIVIDUALLY, and picking their brains about how things are going. Said it was never the receivers running to Garrett.
He also said that Werder constantly makes things up (such as the Ware story), and that the Cowboys’ players are already wary of him in the locker room and they will be sure to ignore that tiny mustachioed, red haired a*hole from now on.
Now, about LBOH and Galloway: I can’t BELIEVE any of you would listen to them. They are always looking for ways to rip the team and especially rip Owens. Ignore everything they said, I don’t care what kind of access they have.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 11, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Brandon
We all already know Easy Ed has put out false unsubstantiated stories before.
The explanation your Dad heard from Crayton’s interview makes a lot more sense.
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by APerfectStar on Dec 11, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me fellas, all this perceived drama is a good thing.
BTW oldasquick, TO blew up in philly b/c your team was too stupid to pay him and your QB was too much of a primma donna to appreciate him.
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by THEjarhead on Dec 11, 2008 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sunday can't come soon enough...
Werder’s article has got me all willy-nilly.
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by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Dec 11, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
if anybody else is watching, but the NFL network is talking about the Cowboys more than the game they are covering tonight. Sheesh!
by cowboyz4ever on Dec 11, 2008 6:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Im in the DC area BTW. Let me give you a more accurate pic of what a key offensive player recently said about his coaching.
One clinton portis went on a local radio show this week and, when asked why he was benched, essentially said (paraphrase) “why dont you ask that genius coach.”
WOW.
Now, when someone asks TO why he doesn’t get the ball enough, and (speaking of garrett) he says, “why dont you ask that genius coach (SARCASM),” I’ll start getting nervous.
Until then, its all crap, and NFLN will milk it for everything its worth.
by THEjarhead on Dec 11, 2008 6:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have no issue,
however it went down today, whether it was the receivers going to JG or vice verse. I think it’s a good thing that they’re talking, like someone else said above. And hopefully it’s about Romo distributing the ball better, which would make our offense unstoppable, even with proctor starting.
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by Staggolee87 on Dec 11, 2008 6:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking some of these same things while watching the PIT game on Sunday!
There were SEVERAL plays where TO had his man playing 10-12 yds off of him, and Romo could have done a quick pass to him to pick up quick yardage, etc — and Romo didn’t even try once. I also saw TO open on a lot of routes where Romo was trying to force the ball into Witten.
If I am the coach — the solution is simple…. Break up the Romo / Witten clique, and make TO Romo’s new roommate on the road. They will be forced to work this out, and Romo will hopefully start spreading the ball around more.
- Hakrjak
by hakrjak on Dec 11, 2008 8:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i actually like your thinking...
but why not buy some really nice sleeping bags and put Romo and all his receivers in one room together and make em all play nice
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by bulldog jeeper on Dec 12, 2008 5:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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