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Who is for trading Witten?

I honestly think that would be the best thing for the team.  It seems like nobody likes him and he is just backstabbing his teammates to the media.  It would also be a good thing for Romo.  Witten has become his crutch, which is not good.  Trading Witten would force Romo to start throwing to other receivers.  It will also force Romo to start melding with the rest of his teammates.

On the GM side of things: we have Martellus Bennet and trading him would net us a bunch of high draft picks.  So what do you guys think?

 

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Trade Witten?
He is the real cancer, get him out of town!
18 votes
I want to hurt you in the worst way for even thinking about it.
179 votes

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Give me a break

Maybe they should trade Romo too.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Dec 13, 2008 4:48 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

on how many game winning/tying field goal or td drives
has it been romo to witten over the middle for 30-40 yards to set it all up
there’s a reason…cuz witten is the best te in the league
they both effed up last sunday
let’s just stop talking about it until it actually affects the team and they lose
but that won’t happen
let’s hope for a win tommorow night and for this all to be ‘last week’s drama’

Superbowl or Bust?

by MrMinority on Dec 13, 2008 5:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that is why we would get a bunch of high draft picks for him

It would be like the Herschel Walker trade, only Witten is better than Walker so we would get better picks.

But from a team chemistry standpoint if things don’t start changing Witten would have to go. But I hope things change.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 5:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

better picks

Better picks for a tight end over a star running back? Dude,. stop now. Seriously. You’re just not making sense

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by thelandryhat on Dec 13, 2008 10:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? You'd trade the young pro bowl tight end over the aging pro bowl wide receiver?

That sounds like a GM Jerry Jones move

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Dec 14, 2008 7:15 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well when you ignore all the other facts as you are doing then yeah it doesn't make any

sense. But despite all of his talent he is destroying the team; he is preventing Romo from having the kind of relationship he needs to have with his teammates. Football is a team game, and Witten’s presence on the Cowboys is preventing us from acting like a team; not Owens.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 14, 2008 9:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

destroying the team how?

by having the best hands on the team and being its most consistent receiving threat? theres a reason romo chooses to throw to him, he’s better than all the receivers and tes.

by yahurd on Dec 14, 2008 11:16 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds like a "Romo" problem to me.

Romo’s the triggerman and is in full control of who he slings it to. Besides, I wonder whose personalities were more compatible; Aikman and Novacek or Aikman and Irvin? Aikman wasn’t headlong in mounds of cocaine (well, at least not with Irvin) and Irvin wouldn’t be caught dead doing the boot scootin’ boogie at some Country Western dive yet their relationship on the field was fine.

If Romo is being short-sighted by being too locked onto either one of his primary targets, that’s a flaw in his game; not his social circle. And if that goof Patty Crayt is any kind of instigator in this whole mess, he’s got a lot of balls whining for the ball. You wouldn’t know what to do with it if you got it anyways, punk.

by MadMick on Dec 14, 2008 2:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its not about short sightedness

its about a qb trusting his receivers and Romo doesn’t trust T.O. as much as Witten, its that simple.

T.O. has to earn that trust

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 14, 2008 2:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually I was referring to Roy Williams.

The post you’re replying to clearly said:

"If Romo is being short-sighted by being too locked onto EITHER one of his primary targets, " either referring to Witten and/or T.O.

If it’s do or die on 4th down, you kind of have to trust Witten more even though he himself has had an uncharacteristic number of drops this season.

by MadMick on Dec 14, 2008 3:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

give me an effing break already

please stop making news out of all of this BS. I come here so i don’t have to deal with this Ed Werder-type crap. PLEASE.

Jason Witten is the greatest player we’ve had on either side of the ball in almost 15 years. As long as we have him and D-Ware on the other side, we will always be relevant.

by CTBoy on Dec 13, 2008 5:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Greatest player on either side of the ball in almost 15 years?

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

I mean I love Witten, but come on…..

by mhuff13 on Dec 13, 2008 5:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absoultely

Since Emmitt Mike Troy, and maybe Charles Haley, who has been better?

The only answer I could come up with is Larry Allen, and Prime Time and that is pretty close. And then Demarcus. He’s the only Perenial All Pro we’ve had other than those guys. Nobody loves Romo or Owens more than me, but we all know they are not at Wittens level as consistantly as he has been since his second year in the league. Marion is great, Bigg is fantastic, T-New has flashed the greatness we all know he has on many occasions. But who has been better than Witten since 1995?

by CTBoy on Dec 13, 2008 6:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten is a great player

that is why we will get all of those great picks for him!

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 6:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, there's some lack of common sense

Trade an all pro young tightend for draft picks, which may or may not work out. I think you play too much fantasy football Quincyyyyy

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 7:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we don't get far in the playoffs

I think Witten’s presence on the team will be a problem.

He will cause too much conflict, and while he is immensely talented, talent is not enough. We need to play together as a team, and Witten’s presence doesn’t help that.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 7:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again with the "many great picks for him"

dude….he’s a tight end…a very good one, but none the less a tight end…He would not garner more than two picks, and it wouldn’t be two first rounders either……better than Hershel Walker ?…so he deserves and should command more picks than what we fleeced Minny for in the Walker trade ?….c’mon now….this is crazy talk, and you can forget about it….You might want to lay off Ed Werder’s kool aid…cuz your making something out of nothing…I do believe Bennett was brought here as a provision to when Witten becomes a FA….but there is no way Witten will be traded……* IF Witten is the “mole” spewing out this garbage talk to the media, then I just lost all respect to the one guy i respected the most on this team…

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by BoyzRback on Dec 14, 2008 3:43 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You answered the question yourself

Larry Allen is probably the greatest guard in NFL history.

by mhuff13 on Dec 13, 2008 11:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unreal

trade one of the toughest and most talented plaers on the team….nooooooooooo wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy…wish we had a few more players like jay….if everyone had the passion for the game like jay we be in good shape

by canty99 on Dec 13, 2008 5:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is not the Problem

football is a team sport. You need your players to work together as a team. You could have Tom Brady on your team, but if everyone hated him your team wouldn’t be in good shape.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 5:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is so silly...

Witten caught 87 balls in 2004, does that mean Testaverde favored him? But then, Witten only caught 35 receptions from Quincy Carter, while Richie Anderson and Terry Glenn had 69 and 52, respectively. Maybe Quincy was racist!

If the team had to do without either Owens or Witten next year, I’d way rather have the 26-year old tight end. You know, the one who played with a broken jaw and cracked ribs. The one who has made clutch catch after clutch catch since his rookie year. The who makes you gasp in incredulity when he drops a rare pass, as compared to sighing and rolling your eyes in inevitable expectation. The one who – from all appearances until he was allegedly pushed over the edge by the biggest Mangina the NFL has ever seen – has been a great teammate and locker room presence.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 5:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Except trading Owens and keeping Witten would piss the whole team off to no end

Most of the team loves Owens. That would just make matters worse.

Didn’t you find it interesting it was Owens who talked during the team meeting and not Witten?

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 6:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would like to keep both

But if push came to shove I would keep Witten. Sorry. Maybe it’s the cauacasian in me. Or maybe it’s the fact that Owens is a far bigger cancer than Witten and Witten is nine years younger, and while you may think an elite tight end is easily replaceable, remember the Cowboys went through a veritiable drought after Novacek (Bjornson, LaFleur, Harris, McGee, Whalen, etc) before stumbling across Witten in the 2003 draft. Meanwhile, the Cowboys at least had decent receivers after Irvin (Ismail, Bryant, Glenn, even Galloway).

I don’t find it particularly interesting that Owens spoke during the team meeting and not Witten. Owens can’t shut the f*ck up, and Witten speaks with his play.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 6:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What does "the caucasian" in you have to do with anything?

No offense, but this isn’t a race issue.

In my opinion, it’s trying to sift through the muck and mire of supreme mediots like Terder and Storio — two sleazy hacks who make it impossible to know what to believe.

None of us REALLY knows the facts, so how constructive is it to make these assumptions based on who knows what?

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by silverblue5 on Dec 14, 2008 1:08 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1...I knew i just should have avoided ESPN and BTB for two more days...Now i'm caught up in all this

NONSENSE

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Dec 14, 2008 3:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on...

was being sarcastic with the caucasian comment. Somebody earlier brought up how this could be a racial thing, so I was riffing on that.

by DavidH22 on Dec 14, 2008 3:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Owens is a friggin Captian...that's why he spoke.......

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Dec 14, 2008 3:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten and Romo are captains

doesn’t quite fit your argument, huh

by quincyyyyy on Dec 14, 2008 8:57 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Back stabbing based on WHAT!!!!

I assume you’re going by this garbage article by PFT.,

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/12/was-witten-werders-source/

"Ed Werder didn’t make anything up," the source said. "Witten or his agent gave the story."

Mike Florio, now this guy is a hack. I cant count how many times this guys been wrong. The article is assumptions and inuendo. So the source Florio goes by says Werder didn’t make anything up, but his source says it was either Witten or his agent. Just a minute now, if this is your source Florio, wouldn’t he know who leaked the story to Werder, that comment is an assumption that Witten or his agent leaked the story. I guess he used Witten and his agent to get Parcells involved somehow in the story

Can someone explain why Witten would leak this story, it’s about him and his relationship with Tony Romo, about making plays up on their own, why would he complain about who gets the ball more, since in T.O pea size brain, Witten is the one getting too many balls, it makes no sense….. Witten being here 5 years has never spoke or even hinted at anything wrong in the dressing room or on the field. He’s tough, classy and plays with a broken jaw, broken ribs, sore knee, sore ankle, injured shoulder, acts like a complete professional on and off the field, and you call werder a hack but jump all over witten based on a nothing article that’s is nothing more than inuendo. Mike Florio, who at the end of the article backtracks and says the following.

.We’re not saying that Tuna has his finger in this one, after all he’s not the kind of guy who’d stick his nose in business that doesn’t pertain to him. We’re just pointing out the straight line from Witten to Sexton to Parcells, who by the way drafted Witten in 2003, the same year that Parcells signed Romo as an undrafted free agent

What a reach, From Witten, to his agent to Bill Parcells. Somehow I knew this would be Bill Parcells fault. Give me a break!!!!

Now is this an asumption or does Florio have a source for this asinine comment

Parcells wanted no part of Owens, and presumably Parcells would love nothing more than to see the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs in the same year that Parcells is in the process of propelling the previously 1-15 Fins toward the postseason

Why would Bil Parcells care one way or the other, he left this organization, he wasn’t fired…he didn’t leave on bad terms, he doesn’t have a grudge

I’d bet anything that Witten had nothing to do with the leak…..

Congrats Quincyyyyyy for thee most ridiculous idea of the year….

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 5:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten is a leader in this club house, not T.O

Who is the player that almost got into a fight in the Philly dressing room, it was T.O..

I would bet the big mouth baby, T.O made some kind of comment in the direction of Witten about lhe leaking of the story, or his relationship with Romo and Witten stood up and said, watch out who you make accusation about T.O….

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 6:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would Witten have to speak

He was the one being accused of being buddy buddy with Romo and accused of hiding in the hotel room with Tony Romo under the blankets with a flashlight designing plays…

The whole thing is a big fat cry baby named T.O, whining about not getting the ball, when he gotten more passes directed his way more than any other receiver on the team.The guy has mental problems, he never takes responsibility for nothing, its never his fault, it’s Garretts fault for not getting him the ball, its garretts offense, its not for him, though last year it was his offense, what changed!!! It’s now Wittens fault because, Tony throws it to him more, when thats not true, it’s Romo’s fault because he threw it somewhere else when he(T.O), thought he was open. It’s always someone elses fault. T.O isn’t and never will be a leader, time for the cowboys to rid themselves of this clown.

If T.O was on another team, every cowboy fan would be saying, looks good on the other team because they were stupid enough to sign him, but when he’s on the cowboys, Fans make every excuse in the book for his antics. Now blaming Jason Witten of all people. Be honest with yourselves, T.O is a cancer if he doesn’t get his way, he’s a 35 year old cry baby only worried about his own stats, not being part of the team … Winning is an after thought with him.

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 6:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a poor excuse

Well who do you think the team as a whole likes more T.O. or Witten?

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 6:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten by a long shot

One of the leakers is probably Crayton, that would be my guess. He’s the one who lost the number two spot on the offense and he’s not getting any balls thrown to him…

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 6:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So all these reports by all these different organizations that the

defense is on Owens side are wrong then? I’m sorry but you are being a bit deluded Deke.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 6:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did they take a pole???

No, in the one or two articles, mentioned a couple of players on the defense, not the entire defense…think T.O should get the ball more in his hands. You’re making a huge leap to T.O is liked more than Witten.

Why dont you find me one article about Witten being the leak, other than that one crap PFT inuendo florio article….which by the way makes not one mention of the source for which Florio is referring, was inside the cowboys organization…

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 7:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, the articles just said, "the defense"

which probably means at least most of the defense is on T.O.’s side.

I think you are ignoring a lot of the facts in your assessment Deke to fit your delusional view of what is going on.

Heck I used to be the biggest Witten fan. Just go over to the Steelers blog and see the intense arguments I had with them over Witten before the Steelers game. But I don’t delude myself when certain facts come to light. It saddens me what is going on, but that is reality and I prefer to deal with reality and not delusion.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 7:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What reality??????

You’re basing all this on speculation from a story that seems to have originated from PFT in which the author doesn’t even say for sure it was Witten who spoke to a reporter as an unknown source.

And it seems according to your poll, and comments on it, certainly looks like you are in the extremely small minority.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Dec 13, 2008 7:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No not PFT

I don’t know if you don’t realize this but this story didn’t originate with PFT.

DMN, FWST, and ESPN all say the defense is on Witten’s side. So believe what you want. If you want to keep on deluding yourself go ahead.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 7:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read all those media outlets

None of them gives any solid facts as to who said what, it’s all assumption, “unnamed sources”, and speculation. Sorry that’s not enough for me to jump to a conclusion.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Dec 13, 2008 7:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not assumption and speculation

it’s unnamed sources like you said. That is how any journalist does their job. A couple of reporters were held in contempt and went to jail during the Valarie Plame investigation because they didn’t reveal their unnamed sources. Allowing sources to keep their anonymity allows them to open up to the reporter, without which they wouldn’t be able to do their job, then we would truly being reading articles purely on speculation.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 8:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHAT FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only crap is from PFT, inuendo assumptions is not facts. you are the one jumping to facts about Witten, the so called source isn’t a cowboy source and mentions two people leaking it, wouldn’t this socalled source not know who leaked it. You’re now assuming it was Witten with NO FACTS to support it

Where is the article Witten is mentioned as the source….

Where is the article the Defense is behind T.O

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 7:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and FWST, DMN, ESPN

all of them say the Defense is on T.O.‘s side. And I trust them more than you, because they have sources within the organization and you don’t.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 7:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They dont wanna believe it dawg.

Not Witten.
When the story came out, they closed their eyes, put their fingers in their ears and started going BA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA.

Channeling my inner Pacman.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 13, 2008 6:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does the Jersey say

J. Witten or J. Christ?

I just wanna know, cause I cant tell right now.

Channeling my inner Pacman.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 13, 2008 7:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have been waiting for this moment...

I have been waiting for this moment since like 1994.

I always wondered when we would see the stupidest thing ever on the internetz.

And this is it.

Go Cowboys!

by DCFanatic on Dec 13, 2008 5:55 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

There aren’t upset with Witten.

They are upset that they are 8-5 and fighting for a playoff spot.

They aren’t upset with T.O. either.

They are upset that they are 8-5 and fighting for a playoff spot.

Go Cowboys!

by DCFanatic on Dec 13, 2008 10:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 DCFan........this is complete NONSENSE........everyone go to bed and wake up at 8:15pm EST....

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Dec 14, 2008 3:57 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everybody hates Jason Witten?

Wow…if that’s the case then maybe I need to follow a new team, because it would be a sad day when players “hate” a teammate who is productive, clutch and who never says anything derogatory about anyone else; and instead prefer a teammate who has a proven track record of selfishness and hardly any record of rising to the occasion. A sad day indeed.

However, I would venture a guess that not too many of Witten’s teammates are upset with him. Why? Because of what I just said above. A reasonable person would take into account Witten’s past achievements and attitude, and like give him the benefit of the doubt.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 6:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some good points, but I have a couple more questions for you

Why was there a team meeting called? Where is this discontent coming from?

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 6:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure why a team meeting was called

I have been seeing so many different reports I can’t keep track! I do like this story by ESPN’s Jemele Hill though:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/081212&sportCat=nfl

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 6:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When asked on Friday if the team was united Newman said,

“today or yesterday.” Why wasn’t the team united on Thursday? And who caused the discontent?

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 6:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am hoping

that this has all been overblown. I think Owens does leave it all on the field and is probably a pretty good teammate. Again, I want both here in 2009.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 6:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wait

had anyone else noticed that no other site besides pro football talk or w/e has the story of witten being the rat?

Superbowl or Bust?

by MrMinority on Dec 13, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True that

we are engaged in speculation, per the PFT report. Frankly I could see a confrontation between Witten and T.O. starting because the former was tired of the latter assigning blame and making excuses. Look, I imagine that even in the Cowboys locker room, there is some misunderstanding and assumptions.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 6:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr.Minority & DavidH22

I couldn’t agree more. And I am shocked that so many Cowboy fans are putting the cross hairs on Witten.

Tell these bandwagon fans I have a bridge to sell them!!!!

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 9:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This poll is a joke right?

You can’t be serious??

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Dec 13, 2008 6:48 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're firkin kidding; right?

What a joke.

And first of all, I don’t think ANYBODY is naive enough in this day and age to give away a Herschel bonanza of picks in a trade and actually at the time Herschel was coming off a season where he lead the league in rushing so I wouldn’t say Witten would be viewed as substantially more valuable commodity than Herschel was at the time. A superstar running back is actually a hotter trade commodity than an All-Pro tight end.

Mike Florio’s a b(e)lowjob hack. Trying to ascertain things like the ins and outs of team chemistry from one of his goofy little blurbs is ill-advised at best.

by MadMick on Dec 13, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at the poll.

Everybody has got their golden boy blinders on today!

Oh, perfect Jason Witten can do no wrong.

Channeling my inner Pacman.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 13, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

What “credible” source say’s he has done something wrong?

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 10:05 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Raf doesn't

but I am waiting for my final judgment until I get some sort of verification that Witten spoke to the press. If he did, it was a huge mistake – but even so not one worth trading him for. Come on…

Until then, I am perfectly content giving Witten the benfit of the doubt, based on his previous performance on and off the field. It is the same benefit of the doubt that I would give to Marion Barber or DeMarcus Ware, two other players who give their all on the field and who pretty much say nothing unless they are spoken to. And when they do speak, it is usually short and sometimes even thoughtful.

Terrell Owens may be a very good player, but he has a tendency to be a big-mouthed idiot.

.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW...THIS WHOLE SUBJECT (TOPIC) IS AMAZING!

THANKS QUINCYYYYY, FOR OPENING AN ENLIGHTENING CAN OF WORMS…YOU HAVE US ALL TUNED IN TO THE BLOG : ^ )

SADLY, I OPENED UP ‘BLOGGINGTHEBOYS’ IN FRONT OF ALL MY STINKIN’ PHILA. IGGLEZ CO-WORKERS. NOW THEY CAN’T STOP LAUGHING AND MAKING JOKES ABOUT OUR (MY) BOYZ. THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO “GIVE” US LJ SMITH FOR FREE!

THIS WHOLE WEEK HAS BEEN A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT…BUT, THE ONE I AM MOST DISPLEASED WITH IS T-NEW! HIS COMMENTS TO THE MEDIA HAS TO STAY IN-HOUSE. TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR!

by 8-12-22-33-88 on Dec 13, 2008 7:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You won't get a lot of great picks for Witten

You’d be lucky to land a top 5/6 pick for a TE. Not worth trading him.

by Beasticon on Dec 13, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you got to be kidding me Now that is absurd

we would get at least as much as what we traded for Roy Williams, probably more.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 7:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe we would land top 10 1st, but that;s it

by Beasticon on Dec 14, 2008 10:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since quincyyyyy and GloryDayz88 have Witten gone

I thought I’d review some of Witten’s clutch contributions in key games over his Cowboy career, in no particular order:

His 42-yard catch against the Giants during the waning minutes to set up Gramattica’s game-winning field goal in 2006
His 16-yard game winning TD catch against the Lions in the final seconds in 2007
His 8-yard reception against Carolina to convert a critical 3rd down late in the game to esnure a Cowboy victory and a winning season in 2003
His 40-yard grab on the last play from scrimmage during the first half against the Eagles earlier this year to set up a field goal

Not to mention 4 Pro Bowl and 1 All Pro seasons, and probably one more this year. And one of the best blockiing tight ends in the NFL. Oh yeah, and the guy who set virtually every tight end receiving record for the Dallas Cowboys.

Jason, we hardly knew ye. Ah, but Martellus will make everyone forget about what’s-his-name.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 7:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont have him gone

Jerry’s not moving him.

Or T.O.

So we can all argue until we are blue in the face. They’re all comin back.

Channeling my inner Pacman.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 13, 2008 8:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont be so sure of that

If the cowboys dont make the playoffs and wade Phillips is fired and Jason Garrett takes over as the headcoach, I’d bet he’s not going to want T.O around this organization. T.O has already questioned the offense for which he’s in, stating it’s not the right offense for him an has question Garrett as an offensive coordinator. Is that someone you’d want around that questions everything about the offense you call

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 8:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jerry LOVES T.O.

I dare you to give me one Jerry quote that is the least bit critical of T.O. at any point during his time here.

T.O. was late a meeting, he said nothing.
T.O. was critical of Drew Bledsoe….nothing.
Beef with Parcells….nothing.
Beef with Witten….nothing.

HE CHOSE T.O. OVER PARCELLS!!
You think he’s gonna run him off because him a Witten had a little scuffle?

P.S…….He loves Pacman too.

Channeling my inner Pacman.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 13, 2008 9:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, Witten what such a complete bust and wasted draft pick, really never contributed to the offense huh

Lets put our hopes in Mr High and tight and rid ourselves of an all pro probably hall of fame player because maybe he was a source leak of the endless whining and crying of the 35 year old diva, wide recever in name only T.O….

goodbye and goodluck Jason Witten, if only you were a better player, we might of kept you….

by Deke on Dec 13, 2008 8:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm that is not even close to what I am saying

but I guess if it benefits your argument to lie about my position then go ahead.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 13, 2008 8:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hall of Fame?

Wow are we getting carried away here. We can’t even get a WR in that revolutionized football, and you’re putting Witten in the HoF.

by mhuff13 on Dec 13, 2008 11:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...good.

I want them both back.

by DavidH22 on Dec 13, 2008 8:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this calls for a ban.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 13, 2008 8:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did You Guys Ever Watch

the Twilight Zone episode called “Monsters are Due on Maple Street”?

If you haven’t, you’ve missed a gem. People start hearing rumors about aliens invading, and start panicking and turning on each other, in a wild frenzy. Pretty pathetic. Kind of like this whole discussion.

by kindablue on Dec 13, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't seen it, but I've read it

people start freaking out seeing others’ houses lights flicker on and off (while everyone else had no power), supposedly signaling the aliens, and they attack the people in that house. Until everyone’s houses are flickering lights and everyone’s paranoid, and they all end up killing each other off. Then the aliens arrive, chuckling to each other that all it took to conquer earth was causing a few lights to flicker, and then they walk in.

I personally think the aliens here are the MSM organizations. Nothing would please them more than to turn the Boys into a morgue.

by mdlusk on Dec 14, 2008 2:12 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 This is....repeat after me guys....NONSENSE

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Dec 14, 2008 4:03 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

Ridiculous post and poll.

thelandryhat.com New Coach, Same America's Team

by thelandryhat on Dec 13, 2008 10:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The good thing to come out of this argument

Is at least Deke finally supports a Cowboy.

by mhuff13 on Dec 13, 2008 11:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol....mhuff...classic.

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Dec 14, 2008 4:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't say much about this post or poll

other than how sad it is. Maybe we the fans should start fighting like our favorite team allegedly has.

by Benthere on Dec 14, 2008 12:34 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats about the most ridiculous

thing I’ve ever seen on this blog, its so assinine, its laughable.

Without Witten, this team would go no where…fast.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 14, 2008 9:24 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF?????

Are you guys freaking kidding me? Trade Witten? All because some “source” says Witten is Werder’s “source”. What in the world would make anyone of you think that Witten is the guy who did this? Everything he has done has been for the team. He has played with a broken jaw, cracked ribs, ankle sprains, etc. And now, you bunch of so called loyal cowboys fans want to call for his head because some unkown little snake said he is Werders informant.

If it did turn out to be him, then let’s talk. But right now, I see nothing to make me beleive he is.

Right now, I am ashamed to be associated with a bunch of media, kool-aide drinking bunch of low IQ, two-faced fans! You sound like a bunk of Eagle fans!!!!!!!!!!!

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 9:33 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I gather you are not too pleased with my post

I’m drinking the kool-aide because I’m not parroting the Cowboys talking points, “there is nothing wrong, it’s a media creation, all is well.” Yeah OK.

Oh and don’t call me an Eagles fan, that was low. Real low.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 14, 2008 9:40 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really???

“I honestly think that would be the best thing for the team. It seems like nobody likes him and he is just backstabbing his teammates to the media. It would also be a good thing for Romo. Witten has become his crutch, which is not good.”

Since when do you have such good inside information that make you think this would be prudent? I true fan stands by his team, and yes, sometimes individual players as well. Did you ever think that Witten would be an easy target for something like this? Do you honestly believe everything that you read? Yea, some of the other players think he may have been the one (and maybe he was), but does it mean that they are right? Are they perfect and all knowing?

Right now, you and everyone else who is condeming Witten for something that he may not have done are no better than the Ed Werders of the world. You base decisions (or in their case, stories) on mere speculation, not facts!

You are what your individual perception portrays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 9:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten is a rare player

that only comes once a generation anymore. He’s not like shocky.

He IS the consummate team player. Trading him would be stupid and would make me think that Jerry Jones is no better than Al Davis.

George Teague did it all.

by Aaron Novinger (Bigrigga31) on Dec 14, 2008 10:13 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok

while we’re at it, why dont we go ahead and trade romo, barber, and ware

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by hinduplaya on Dec 14, 2008 10:27 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm all for reading fan-posts...

but this has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen on this site. I’m going to go to bspn and read something that won’t make me vomit.

by commoncents on Dec 14, 2008 10:51 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Quincyyyyy

Since you seem to be the “all knowing” guru on this incident, why don’t you tell us the following:

1. What was said in the team meeting in which the players spoke? I mean “exactly”, not speculation.
2. How you know “for a fact” that Witten is the unamed source.
3. The SPECIFIC players on defense who are against Witten.
4. What specific examples in Wittens past would lead an intelligent person to believe he would stab another player in the back like this?

You can either show your ignorance or your intelligence by answering these questions. In the mean time, the philly fans have a season tickets for you!

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well firstly I was one of Witten's biggest fans, just head over to the Steelers blog

and you can see that I had very heated debates with them over how great Witten is. Furthermore, I would rather T.O. be the problem, because he is old, his skills are regressing, and basically he is just not as good a player as Witten is. Believe me when I say I wish it was T.O. who was the problem. Sadly it doesn’t seem to be panning out that way. I hope I am wrong. But if Witten is the problem, despite all of his talents, he is hurting the team chemistry, and it takes a team to win a championship, not an individual even one of great talents.

Now to answer your inqueries:

1. Going on what the DMN reported they spoke about bring the team together. In terms of specifics, Newman said they talked about just becuase you don’t like someone doesn’t mean you can’t respect them on the field.

2. I never said for a “fact” that Witten was the unnamed source. I merely stated that the preponderance of the evidence seems to be pointing in that direction. Based on everything I have seen I would have to ignore a lot of things to believe that T.O. is the main problem. Not just the PFT article, but articles stating how the defense is upset with Witten.

3. From what i have read from the DMN ESPN and FWST they state that the defense is upset with T.O. I just have a hard time believing all of them would just flat out lie like that. I don’t think that it is necessary for me to name specific players; it is enough to say that the defense is upset with. You are just trying to erect a strawman.

4. The logic you are using is extremely faulty. You are trying to contend that because someone has never done something before means they are completely incapable of doing it. Sorry I don’t buy that. Moreover, you don’t know Witten personally; you don’t know if he has every betrayed someone in the past and neither do I. But from what we do know it seems that what appears to be happening. But like I said, I hope I am wrong and we can cut T.O. instead of Witten.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 14, 2008 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A woman's point of view

Hi, may I butt in here? I know the testosterone is floating around, but I’ll hold my nose and give my 2 cents anyway. By the way, if you can’t tell, I’m cheating and posting under my husband’s username.

This whole discussion, here and elsewhere sounds like an immature bunch of schoolchildren. Case in point…I heard that he said that she said that you think that she said….. What? Seriously? Witten is young, but he isn’t wet behind the ears. He is someone I would be proud for my boys to grow into. And T.O. So what, he has a “bad rep” in other teams. I’ve been in the public eye and been appalled at what the media will take out of one quote and spin around to sell a headline. These guys have been there and done that. I’m not one for fingerpointing. I teach my kids better than that. Both of these guys are grown men. I say give BOTH of them the benefit of the doubt. SO WHAT if they did have words. It’s called a conflict, and this might be a new concept for men, but you can’t have a good relationship without a little conflict and resolution now and again.

As for what the reports are saying, “Witten OR HIS AGENT” was the source? Seriously? And no one seems to pick up on the fact that the added “or his agent” highlights how speculative this information is? Stop huffing the whipped cream cans and stand back and look at the broader picture. The team is not imploding, the sky is not falling, and no one is going anywhere. Witten is a team leader. He is a standup guy, father, and husband. He is a PHENOMENAL player, and appears to be a good person to have as a friend. T.O. is a team leader in that he encourages EVERYONE. He is NOT just all about his own stats—he might care about them—but what is of more importance to him is the win. Does anyone REALLY think he leaves a game and is pissed off driving away if he didn’t make the game-winning catch, as long as some Cowboy did? Look around guys, let’s pay attention and realize that these are not little leaguers here. These are grown men and it is perfectly acceptable for them not to be holding hands and singing Cumbaya all the live-long days. They will get over it. They’re probably already over it. It’s your turn.

NATALIE—Mrs. Airtyme ;)

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 1:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that

sounds like common “cents” (see what i did there)

by commoncents on Dec 14, 2008 1:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As usual...

…my wife makes more sense and puts me in my place!

I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!

by airtyme on Dec 14, 2008 1:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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