Football Hurts: Dallas Outslugs New York, 20-8
by Rafael Vela on Dec 14, 2008 11:15 PM CST
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John Madden is fond of saying, "winning is a deodorant." Tonight, the Cowboys dabbed some industrial-strength cologne on their melodramatic week, abusing the New York Giants 20-8.
The Cowboys matched New York's muscle and exceeded it. Their defensive line, so badly abused in October at the Meadowlands, dominated the blue-chip New York line tonight. The Giants mustered 72 yards on the ground, 128 less than they did in the October game. The rush sacked Eli Manning eight times. LG Rich Seubert and RT Kareem McKenzie left the game with injuries.
The secondary smothered the Giants passing game. The corners showed that New York may indeed miss Plaxico Burress. New York's longest reception was 23 yards, by TE Kevin Boss. It's longest play of the night was a dubious pass interference penalty on Terence Newman in the first quarter.
While the defense meted out pain, the offensive stars endured theirs to put the Cowboys in the NFC's fifth seed heading into week sixteen. Tony Romo played the last 40 minutes with a bruised back, delivered by an intense first-half Giants rush. He made a classic Romo play for Dallas first touchdown, floating away from a Giants blitz before lofting a pass to Patrick Crayton, who had broken his route and gotten free up the right sideline.
Marion Barber did his best, though he gained only two yards on the ground. A fourteen-yard flare showed that he's far from healthy. He was wide open in the right flat but was quickly run down. Wade Phillips mentioned that Barber will be ready next week, but he looks far from the target.
Tashard Choice again showed he can handle the big stage. He topped 150 yards from scrimmage against Pittsburgh and put 143 on the Giants, gaining 91 yards rushing and 52 receiving. 79 of those 91 yards came in the 4th quarter, when Dallas put up 14 points, a reversal of their dismal end in Pittsburgh last week.
In the meantime, the Cowboys get an all-expenses paid trip to the trainers room. The Ravens are coming to town this Saturday, and they're mad.
Game Balls
Terence Newman wanted accountability from the coaches. Here 'ya go Terence. Oh, and you get a game ball too:
-- Jason Garrett. His offensive line kept setting him up and he kept overcoming. He stayed with his running game late, even though Dallas had 12 yards through three quarters. As the Cowboys did last year, they broke teams on the ground in the 4th. His draw to Tashard Choice went for 23 and set Dallas up for their second TD. He called a hot route to Jason Witten two plays later and set up the Cowboys at the one.
On Dallas final TD drive he overcame penalties that put Dallas in 1st and 20 and in 2nd and 19. Each time, he delivered.
-- The entire defensive front seven: 8 sacks gives them 30 in the last five games. I don't know what Todd Grantham and Reggie Herring have put in their player's Wheaties, but keep feeding it to them.
-- Terence Newman. The Eagles stopped the Giants cold by doubling Domenik Hixon. Dallas went one better, smothing him with Newman. Terence acted out midweek, in likely response to being called out by Wade Phillips in last Monday's presser. Tonight, he looked healthy. And when he's healthy, he's got the football equivalent of an electrostatic drive. He glides from 0 to 60 in two steps.
-- Hudson Houck: The Giants picked on Cory Proctor early, and broke down in Cowboys interior, as Leonard Davis had his worst pass blocking game of the season. He plugged the leaks. Romo took some hits later in the game, but he had time to throw. Dallas called more max protect schemes, as they did on Miles Austin's 23 yard reception late in the 3rd quarter. Romo missed some open WRs, likely because his back stiffened up, but he made the throws he needed to make.
Dave Campo: He had to juggle personnel on the fly. Keith Davis left the game in the second quarter, when he wrenched his knee. Tra Battle held the fort until he could return. Anthony Henry moved to safety for plays, and the kids, Alan Ball, Orlando Scandrick and Mike Jenkins, played superbly, as they have since the Tampa Bay game. Campo had his kids ready to play, at a very high level.
Wade Phillips: Let's give some love to the old defensive guru, who has his guys playing at the Steelers' level. 30 sacks since the bye. 13.8 points per game allowed since the bye. Their three best games have come in that span: 228 yards allowed in the Washington game; 238 versus Pittsburgh; 218 to New York tonight.
Downer
Tashard is the right choice. Marion Barber has guts to spare, but he's not healthy. He doesn't have his usual burst. He can't run his pet toss right play because he can't outrun guys to the corner.
Let him heal. Tashard can carry the load in the short term.
PR Award of the Week
There's an old journalism proverb that says, "never challenge a man who buys ink by the barrell." Never challenge a saavy player who understands PR. Terrell Owens used his time before the NBC microphones and in the post-game press conference to berate ESPN reporter Ed Werder, who broke the story of team turmoil mid-week. Owens characterized the reports as "lies" and questioned the reporter's professionalism.
Owens gets the final word -- this week at least. And he got the biggest reach. NBC reaches far more eyeballs on a pedestrian night than ESPN on their best.
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Loved the crack on ed werder… lets see if ESPN reports it
by apjfive on Dec 14, 2008 11:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They’ve ignored it in their post game synopsis and Mosley’s “Rapid Reaction,” although they mentioned other comments from that post game interview.
My guess is they will justify it by saying it’s “not news,” despite the fact that the gossip Werder reported apparently “was news.”
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They showed it on Sportscenter this morning
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Dec 15, 2008 7:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN has a responsibility to report TO’s comment. Werder spent all week subtly questioning TO’s professionalism. Now TO blatantly questioned Werder’s.
by apjfive on Dec 14, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is a joke
with idiots like Dilfer on there…pathetic.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't be so hard on Dilfer
On ESPN radio, he regularly sticks up for the Cowboys when Mike and Mike or Colin Cowherd are down on them. He’s a big Romo supporter.
by rhbgsherb on Dec 15, 2008 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the quick write-up Raf, great stuff
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah that Jackass Dilfer on ESPN
and the other two didn’t believe TO. Dilfer said he isn’t buying his story and thinks this drama will destroy us
Werd is a Turd......
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 14, 2008 11:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Whats amazing that Werner was not at the pressers...
did they tell him to stay away??
Werd is a Turd......
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 14, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
Romo’s post game presser was a thing of beauty. They guy is impressive. Scribes were walking out, and he said, "I"m a little disappointed everyone is leaving but I’m still talking… but what’re you gonna do? Sometimes words matter, sometimes they don’t." BOO YAA, Bitches! On an off-the-cuff riff, he just called out the media for expending soooo much effort and written and spoken words to flay his team, and when he’s telling them the Truth as the QB of the Cowboys sees it, and they don’t find it interesting, they meander out of the room to invent their own fictions.
Newman, and i’ve never been that big of a fan, played so well. Hixon is not a top tier WR, but nonetheless, Newman is big, fluid, sneaky quick and fast as hell.
The defensive front 7 are unbelievable.
You guys don’t like Dilfer? He’s a great analyst. I find him unbiased and insightful.
by Joey2zs on Dec 14, 2008 11:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't hear what Dilfer said on this issue,
but he’s been touting the Cowboys all year.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 14, 2008 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to disagree,
but every time he is on the shopw the Herd, he says good thing about the Cowboys and often picke them to win
by Helene on Dec 15, 2008 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean agree
Tout: To promote or praise energetically; publicize
by jrduncans on Dec 15, 2008 5:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WHere do you guys watch the post game pressers? NBC doesn’t show them here in Chicago.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
idtiots at ESPN had to go out of there way to put on there ticker that
TO had 3 Rec for 38 Yds. 1 drop and 5 passes thrown to him…
Werd is a Turd......
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 14, 2008 11:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, those WERE his stats...
…and he did have that drop. Can’t win ’em all.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That drop was slightly throw too far...sure, he got his hands on it...
but it was a poorly thrown ball……and not in stride, and not led up field…IF he dove, he may have caught it…but he was looking to stay in bounds…I do NOT blame TO for dropping that ball…but if you want to call it a drop, it’s a drop….Romo still wasn’t/isn’t as crisp and accurate as days past….even prior to the hit on his back…But he did show he’s one tough son uva bitch….knowing he had to stay in there for us to win….unfortunately last weeks meltdown will keep him from winning MVP…but i sure like our chances of making the playoffs now, and going somewhere when we get there….This Defense is where it should have been from day 1…dominant and playing like a top 3 D in the NFL….thanks to Wade Phillips finally taking over…bring on Flacco……..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Dec 15, 2008 1:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But do they post the drops and targets of other WRs like Randy Moss, Steve Smith or Plaxico Burress (when he's playing)?
The answer is NO.
Their blatant hate for The Cowboys is so obvious. Their blatant hate for Owens is so obvious. You won’t see the Exaggerated Shi_ Programming Network putting info like that for any other player other than TO.
And that’s why…
I HATE THEM.
Only NFL Network, Fox Sports, and NBC for me.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exaggerated Shi_ Programming Network
I like that explanation……………..
by oldtimer on Dec 15, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, sir!
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that surprises you?
How invested in Terrell Owens is ESPN? They invented him.
And, I find it hard to call that a drop. Madden was wrong that that ball was easily catchable. I’m biased, though.
The Eagles and the Giants are the same team. Great QB, flashy run offense when it clicks, outstanding D, and no WRs. So… good.
Screw the Ravens. They lost to a team the Cowboys should’ve routed.
by Joey2zs on Dec 14, 2008 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, this always gets me
Eli Manning is not a great QB.
by witten82 on Dec 15, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
UNSTOPPABLE!!!!
Riiiiight …
Stop the Madness - Enshrine Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
by Raul Villaronga on Dec 15, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No Watches for Eli last night
Mr Unstoppable certainly didn’t look it.
by oldtimer on Dec 15, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of bitching about ESPN
But everyone here still watches it enough to know what’s going on there.
Interesting.
by mhuff13 on Dec 14, 2008 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking only for myself
I only watch Champions League football on that channel. Thank God the NFL Network exists.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 14, 2008 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I only watch ESPN News after the game for the pressers. I actually mute it until I see the pressers
And play on the computer till then
by mhuff13 on Dec 14, 2008 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Try using other sources for your sports
seriously, try it for two weeks. Then try watching for five minutes.
It’s an easy habit to break. Of course, I don’t watch basketball, since Dick Vitale’s voice makes my spine bend.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 15, 2008 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Once I started to visit SI.com, I realized I never had to go back to ESPN.com and I don't. And never will.
by TacoKid on Dec 15, 2008 1:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here. SI.com DESTROYS espn.com!!!
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what I dont get
It’s a weekly beating of ESPN on here, calling them every name in the book, but their like kids on crack, they never seem to get enough, they keep watching. If it bothers them so much, why, why, why do they continue to watch!!!!
by Deke on Dec 14, 2008 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am lucky enough to have the NFLN
Superior reporting all around and not hardly any bias. Plus, I don’t follow basketball, baseball, hockey, or really hardly anything else other than the NFL and some college football.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
by DC_fan on Dec 15, 2008 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right on about barber
the ‘coach’ who should be held accountable for that call is jerry jones. glad the cowboys put together an impressive game against a tough opponent (although they’re missing their #1 wideout and rb), but jones should be slapped around a little for pushing barber to go early when he clearly isn’t ready. hope he won’t keep trying to prove something and end up hurting himself.
by g8tgod on Dec 14, 2008 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A lot of talk about Barber being hurt here and in other posts
but if he’s good enough to just go in the game and not HURT the team, it’s better than suiting up Coleman (?) from the Practice Squad.
I mean, you can’t dress only Choice and Deon, right?
But next week, let’s hope the caoches start Choice and give him a bigger piece of the load, maybe 75%.
It’s not like anyone is going to go off for 150 yards against the Giants or Ravens anyways.
by Realist Larry on Dec 14, 2008 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wish I would have started Choice
over Reggie Bush this week. Ha.
by Cosby Sweater on Dec 14, 2008 11:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Romo's game ball?
He certainly played well enough to deserve one
by hiafex on Dec 14, 2008 11:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Romo gets the ink above the fold
That’s a game ball.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 14, 2008 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know Jenkins was in the game
Till the 3rd qtr. I guess he was covering Toomer.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Dec 14, 2008 11:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he was playing great
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 14, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't see QBs challenging him very much
I know he’s good. Is he THAT good?
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Dec 14, 2008 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's better than Scandrick
And I think Scandrick’s pretty good. But given the choice, opposing teams are clearly picking on rookie #32, not #31. Nice to see a first rounder pay such quick dividends. No offense, Bobby.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still hope Pacman is OK
and that we bring him back next year. He was playing great as a corner (not getting burned as much as Newman) and Henry just sucks. He’s done as a corner for the Cowboys….Next year I want to see Pacman, Jenkins, Scnadrick and Newman as corners. And we need Henry to move to Saftey and draft another one to replace Roy Williams.
by ManTab on Dec 14, 2008 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiousity...
…wouldn’t Hamlin replace Roy Williams, if you moved Henry to FS? Why draft a safety if you’re gaining one via Henry? I don’t think we need TWO new safeties, Hamlin’s excellent.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we NEED safety depth....and even if Henry was moved to FS...he only has a year or two left in him...
Safety
OL
NT
LB
take your pick, in any order…that’s what we need in next years draft…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Dec 15, 2008 1:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i personally like USC's S Taylor Mays and wouldn't mind taking him with our top pick...
supposedly he is the fastest guy on that squad and is a beast… He kind of reminds me of LaRon Landry
If he is available I would love that pick, but if not I firmly believe a premier O-Line (preferably in the top 3 rounds) is a must this year
G'd up from the feet up
by FearRomo on Dec 17, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to hype Eli here, but...
On at least two of the plays where the Giants’ Steve Smith caught passes on Scandrick, our rookie corner had outstanding coverage — step for step with Smith — but Eli just made stellar throws.
Either Michaels or Madden — on more than one occasion — mentioned that Scandrick covered well, but the throws were just perfect.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
That one on the sideline couldn’t have been defended any better…I believe it was in the third quarter…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Dec 15, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando
Got beat a few times but adjusted, I think the secondary is improving with every game.
by joey7289 on Dec 14, 2008 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And even then...
…when he got beat, he was still glued to his guy. I never saw him get smoked, he was always right on his man.
by danielt on Dec 15, 2008 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's quick
the thing I like about him is he is either glued to the receiver or closes very quickly.
Shows he knows what he’s doing, and as posted above only a perfect throw beats that coverage.
by oldtimer on Dec 15, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't hear about a DB in a game
He’s doing his job. Very well.
by mhuff13 on Dec 14, 2008 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 mhuff...Jenkins wasn't seen all game....and neither was Armani Toomer...
that’s a good thing..
btw…Scandrick played a great game as well…..Keith Davis, Alan Ball….weak links in our secondary….but they’re both playing out of neccessity…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Dec 15, 2008 1:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN HITS NEW LOW..........
You know how they run the stats across the bottom of the screen………..well, they are listing how many times Owens and Witten were targeted……..my god, talk about trying to keep something alive…………..im sure they are sooooooooo upset that we won!!!!
Ed Werder
Sports
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Network
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 14, 2008 11:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just a weird distinction to make, especially when neither one of them were huge factors in the game plan. I had to check the stats to see how Tony managed to make it to 244 yards passing, since nobody had more than 50 or so yards receiving.
Seems like they’re reaching to justify their previous story, which is shoddy journalism.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo spread the ball to 9 different receivers...that's the way it should be....
keeps EVERYONE happy…although Tony missed a few passes to a wide open TO, which would have made this game a blowout….but you take the W and move along..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Dec 15, 2008 1:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about keeping everyone happy
I thought he distributed the ball very well too. I couldn’t care less who is happy or unhappy, when he spreads the ball like that it makes the team almost undefendable. Who you gonna try to double when there are always 4-5 options. Keep spreading it around!
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 15, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least Madden Michaels pointed that out
They did mention the spreading of the ball
by oldtimer on Dec 15, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Witten
I haven’t been drinking, let me say that. If we don’t make the playoffs, any chance Jerry looks into trading Witten? Let me start by saying DON’T DO IT!, but if we don’t progress through the playoffs does he think about it?
Shockey got a 2nd & a 5th. Witten could retrieve a 1st & maybe a 5th. If we don’t make a deep playoff run Jerry might try to recoup some of the lost from the Roy WIlliams trade.
Just a thought. I think we’d be dumb to trade Witten, but out owner might entertain offers. I have no “sources” just thinking out loud.
Great win. Let’s do it again Saturday night & close down Texas Stadium in style!
by Dave L on Dec 14, 2008 11:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't see it
Why trade away the league’s best player at his position? Seems like if we were going to trade away any offensive weapons this offseason due to crowding, it would be one of: Miles Austin (hopefully not, I like him), Crayton, Sam Hurd, etc.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 14, 2008 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why Change anything at the skill positions
Draft another C/G and a young OT. and if you get lucky, snag a young QB in the middle rounds.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 14, 2008 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I
hope they go for a QB this draft. They need a solid #2 QB in the worst way.
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
by what_the_crap on Dec 14, 2008 11:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IF Tebow or Harrell makes it to the third round...we should be all over them...
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Dec 15, 2008 1:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
I know we bash ESPN a lot for how they cover our Boys, but everyone’s falling right into their trap. They WANT us to watch and get upset, so we watch more to see what they’ll say next. on ESPNews, they started off talking about “drama in the big D” and making fun of Romo, Owens, and Witten talking on the sidelines. Let them talk all their crap, cause deep down, they WANT the Boys in the playoffs, cause Dallas is money. Dallas is ratings. Dallas gives them something to talk about. So my thinking is, go ahead, make fun of the Dallas Cowboys. I can always switch over to the NFL Network, where they talk about every team. I’ll continue to watch them though, mostly cause Im a sports junkie.
Basically, ESPN is that jock in high school who makes fun of the “nerdy” girl in school (Dallas) to everyone, but deep down, has a gigantic crush on her.
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
by what_the_crap on Dec 14, 2008 11:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
dont know about the nerdy girl analogy
i see the cowboys as more of the totally hot chick thats also smart
and espn is the fat girl that tries to slash her tires
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 14, 2008 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
I like your analogy better than mine. +1 for you sir.
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
by what_the_crap on Dec 14, 2008 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh. For me, NFL Network & Fox Sports get so much more view time than ESPN the last few months.
And that’s how I intend to keep it.
I HATE ESPN…
So I’m not gonna give them my time.
Except when there’s a game only televised on their network.
Now as far as Shi_Center goes, that continues to get flushed down my toilet. NFL Network and Fox Sports get the nod for highlights and analyses.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim
I agree. I like the idea of trading a Crayton for maybe a 3rd or 4th, but we all know how Jerry likes to make a splash. It would all depend on M. Bennet’s ability to grow as a player.
by Dave L on Dec 14, 2008 11:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He will grow
Bennet will only get better. He is pretty quick for being as tall as he is.
Also looks to be a good blocker once he engages.
by oldtimer on Dec 15, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Was Tex right?
about our DC Stewart? Tex was claiming early on that he was not ready for prime-time…Wade takes over the defense and they start playing like a powerhouse.
What role does Stewart have on this team, other than relaying Wade’s defensive signals?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Dec 14, 2008 11:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes Tex was right..
Stewart a position coach, DB’s right? DB’s are playing great..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Campo is the DBs coach
Stewart is still our DC, although he seems to be that in name only. Or maybe in game-planning only, with Wade being the gameday DC.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 15, 2008 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How much more proof do you need?
is there still a question? of course Tex was right. The defense has been lights out and it started immediately after Stewart was “demoted”.
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 15, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry the GM
I know Jerry isn’t always right, but the organization, Jerry included did a great job this off-season and season..
Signing Flo
Drafting Felix, Choice, Bennett, Jenkins, and Scandrick- To hit 5 out of 6 picks is a thing of beauty
Trading for Holland-get well soon buddy
Signing Polk and Battle
The organization has the product dialed in, just need to execute..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh and I still love the Roy Williams trade
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the only negative is brad johnson
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 15, 2008 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
They brought in Brooks Bollinger, I think if we start him vs STL we had a chance to win that game..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not much of an endorsement
So Bollinger “gives us a chance” to beat a team as bad as Stl? I’d still prefer an NFL caliber backup.
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 15, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Fair to Brooks
He only played the second half a game where the opponent was alread dominating. He has not been given the chance to prepare for a game as the starter.
by staubachfan on Dec 15, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else see Polk come close to another punt block?
I think it was Polk, he was a step away from launching himself across the punter’s kicking path.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 15, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you notice
How much space Crayton gets on returns opposed to Pac-man. Pac never has that much room.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cuz when Pac is back there, they kick for hang time as opposed to to distance....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Dec 15, 2008 2:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
They don’t mind out kicking the coverage vs Crayton.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was shrewd move...
but it just keeps people talking about the controversy….shake the fleas off, T.O….
i don’t doubt someone told that to ed werner…..but i don’t doubt that he pursued the angle either….it’s kinda like someone tells you something and you keep pushing at ’til they tell you what you wanna hear…then you quote them as your source….
i’ll say this….werner is not the only culprit….skip brainless, keyshawn, uncle tom jackson, trey wingo, etc….they all need to be held to account…and then trent dilfer says you can win a game or two with these distractions but not championships….as if he knows a lot about that…..you were a bus driver with an all-time high defense…plus ray lewis was accused of MURDER that year…..and the altercation happened at a SUPER BOWL party…..that wasn’t a distraction?
sigh….we can’t win for losing….but i’m so glad we did it slow to the giants down by the fire….god i hate their bandwagon jumpin’ fans…..suck on that trabek!
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Dec 15, 2008 12:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Jerry said this week reminded him of some of the weeks of the 90’s championship teams.
We have a Superbowl D right now.. 8 sacks, 2 int’s, and 2 forced fumbles(we had our hands on both).
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whoo
now i can rock the ‘boys jersey in pride for another week
now the ’boys move on to the ravens and i honestly think we can beat them especially at home
so all i have to do now is write this essay due tomorrow that i’ve put off all day until now lol
o well a cowboys win makes it so much easier to write
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 15, 2008 12:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wmillion
Brian Stewart is the defensive coordinator, Campo is the DB coach. If Wade is calling the defense, what role does BStew have?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Dec 15, 2008 12:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He pats the guys on the butt when they go on and come off the field.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 15, 2008 12:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
He is probably learning a lot right now after learning by fire and having to step back..
I am not a supporter of Brian Stewart, but I hope he learns a lot from this..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't, then he's wasting a golden opportunity
Maybe in a few years he’ll get a shot somewhere.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 15, 2008 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It will be a while
We looked pedestrian before Wade took over, but I agree, I hope he gets a shot. He just wasnt’ ready.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
go fer Wade's dinner, go fer Wade's drinks, go out in the cold and warm up the car for Wade, etc.. etc..
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Dec 15, 2008 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tighten up his Resume?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you guys hate ESPN
but, I still love the channel. What can I say, I am addicted to sports..
I dislike a lot of their analyst, but that happens when you are America’s team. You have a lot of haters. ESPN actually represents it’s viewers. I ran across a Broncos fan who hated us more then he liked his own team. It comes with being a cowboy fan, I am over it. I hope Wade continues to use ESPN for bulletin board material.
ESPN is making us a more united team. Common goal…
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
a friend of mine is a broncos fan and he was still crap all week...saying T.O. is gay ...blah blah...
this is what i just told him….“great day to be a cowboys fan. you can’t win in December without a good defense.”
tell him to take that junk to the sto….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Dec 15, 2008 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No sir
There D is a disaster. I keep hearing Cutler is better then Romo.. Only thing Cutler has over Romo is arm strength..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler throws a very good ball
His mechanics are texted book. He has 4 very good receivers and a great line in front of him. You just do not want to be a RB for them this year :)
by 082288 on Dec 15, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T-New baby
You do like him, you really do like him!
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 15, 2008 12:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What a game, very nice
Now I can go to the gym tomorrow and face the local big mouth Giants fan there. I took crap all week. How sweet this win is. GO Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice writeup Raf. Romo swatting the ball out of bounds for a safety, rather than the Giants TD that could have happened, was the play of the game for me. Even when being pummeled, Romo still has his head in the game.
by CowboyMan on Dec 15, 2008 12:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Ed Werder will get moved to NYC where there is still a lot of REAL DRAMA with the ir WR.
Plaxico said this ………….Plaxico said he could have played and would have made a difference………..shouldn’t have suspended him for the season.
Just keep Winning BABY……….and the rest will take care of itself.
by Jon B. on Dec 15, 2008 12:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
just a few thoughts
I am amazed by this DEFENSE! Eli has been sacked 24 times and half of those are by the Cowboys. They were getting to Eli while only rushing 4.
30 sacks in the past 5 games is amazing. I dont care if it came against Wash, SF, Sea, Pitt and the G-men.
I want them all back. I want Canty, Spears, Tank all signed. Get on it Jerry. I think Pac is already signed through next year.
I can’t see trading Crayton, Hurd has not shown he can play to an NFL level, Austin can’t stay on the field.
the O-line was horrible. False starts, holding, poor blocking it was ugly. Gurode was beyond horrible
The special teams coverage has been very good since the bye week.
Will the 08 draft go down as the best since Jimmy ran this team?
When you look at all the injuries this team has and has had this year. 9-5 looks very good.
As Romo’s back stiffens this week I hope he is able to play. If not I think Crayton or Stanback will give the Cowboys as good of a chance as Brooke, or Brad.
I really like this team. They have a nice mix of vets and youngsters. I think our window should be open for a few more years. Get a saftey, a couple of back ups on the O line and bring back all of the Fa’s and I am a happy camper.
I dont hate ESPN/ESPN2 I just dislike that they have become a tabloid broadcaster.
by 082288 on Dec 15, 2008 12:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
082288
I said the same thing, I was thing entire defense back, minus Roy Williams the safety. I think they’ve played the best they have as a unit and can continue to improve. Look at the Ravens that base defense has been together since that Super Bowl, our team can do the same thing.
by joey7289 on Dec 15, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got home from my first trip to Texas Stadium.
It was well worth the trip from Connecticut, taking the tour tomorrow morning, getting inside that clubhouse, on the field, etc.
WIN OUT!!!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 15, 2008 1:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just dropping by to take my licks....
Our ofensive line wasn’t up to the task last night. Our tackles were running back towards Eli chasing your blitzers all night. I guess this game answers the question,
" how important is Jacobs?"
I haven’t read this whole thread but I have to say I think the unsung heros on your team are in your secondary. Eli just didn’t have anyone open to throw to.
By the way, is it just me or are the officials making way too many game changing mistakes? They called a really hokey phantom pass interference against you early in the game and then missed one they should have called against the Cowboys when a defender blasted Toomer on the two yard line before the ball (which to me seemed very catchable) even got there. They replayed that several times but no one in the booth commented.
Anyway good game for the Cowboys. Congratulations.
by giant fan since 57 on Dec 15, 2008 4:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Interference on Toomer
Was tipped first, by I don’t remember who,, so Ken Hamlin popped him. Even after the tip the ball almost landed in Toomer’s hands, which is probably where the confusion came from. But it was a legal play.
by witten82 on Dec 15, 2008 8:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're a class act, giant fan.
and a good man, sir.
it’s still amazing how good your Defense is — even without Umenyiora and Strahan this year.
i think you’ll bounce back and win that big game at home vs Carolina next Sunday night.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Dec 15, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Man
I live in Jersey so i usually take a crap load of crap from Giant fans, but your a class act dude. You guys will win next week, and if not will get your revenge on the Vikings from last year.
by joey7289 on Dec 15, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where in NJ do you live? DO you go anylace to watch games?
One great thing about being a Cowboys fan is that pretty much every game is on regular TV, so you don’t have to go to a sports bar. I do sometimes for atmosphere
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Dec 15, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It may sound corny but I always try to treat people as I would want them to treat me.
Sure, I hate to lose, especially to our biggest rivals, but there would be no thrill of victory if there wasn’t occasionally the agony of defeat. I agree that our one bright spot (except for Carney and Feagles, who between them have 86 years of NFL experience…can you believe it?) was our run defense. Except for the end of the game when the outcome was no longer in doubt We stuffed the run.
I don’t share your optimism about the Carolina game next week. I’ve been complaining on our site now for quite a while that although Antonio Pierce is a good “rah rah” guy, he is slow, too small, misses too many tackles, and takes too many personal foul penalties. If our front four weren’t so good our weak linebacker play would have already been more obvious.
by giant fan since 57 on Dec 15, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Last!
I was wrong about Tony Romo fading down the stretch. He hung tough and played through obvious pain to get this one.
Wade’s Purdy Good Country Defense was roaring and the Giants OL will have nightmares for weeks.
Choice was superb. Get well, Marion. Tashard will hold the fort until you are better.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 15, 2008 7:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wish Romo just looked tougher on the field
My son asked me at one point if he was crying! He wasn’t trying to be a smart a$$, I have to admit it looked like it to me too. I know it’s nit picking but I also know how I would feel if I was playing defense and I saw a guy showing that much pain. I would want to finish him off.
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 15, 2008 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo
… looked plenty tough to me. If the defense was trying to finish him off (and they were) they didn’t get it done.
Romo got it done tonight.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 15, 2008 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on
Tears in your eyes and crying are to different things..
If you have ever had a back injury you would know how much pain he was in..
It was like a punch to the nose, the eyes are going to water up..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Dec 15, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what does looking tough look like???
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 15, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually thought that was the most impressive part of his performance
He clearly had tears in his eyes when he walked off the field, the series after the back injury, but he didn’t even come out for a play. He must have been in intense pain for his eyes to involuntarily well up like that.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Dec 15, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our defense
On BSR, I was a constant critic of the defense. Well, to be fair, I love this defense over the past month. Absolutely love it. It’s a joy to watch. I guess I like dominating defensive football over overwhelming offense, because I didnt give a crap that the offense wasnt its most explosive last night. I actually looked forward to seeing the defense get back on the field. cant believe i just wrote that sentence. it’s a shame felix went down. is it too much to ask for the o and d to gel at the same time? hopefully it’ll happen over the next 7 weeks.
by Elberraco on Dec 15, 2008 7:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget that we're finally getting healthy...
on defense at least. Well, minus the injury to The Thong.
Spencer is back, which means that we have one more hound to unleash on the pass rush. Newman is healthy, which means we can play more press coverage and make the QBs hold the ball a count or two longer, giving our rushers time to get there. Jenkins is back. Henry is remarkably healthy for this stage of the season.
I’m sure that having Wade call the defensive plays certainly helps, but being at full strength gives us a lot more options than we had that first 6 weeks of the season.
by DannyWhite on Dec 15, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gurode?
not sure whose fault that was on the early snap for the safety, but in general – is it me or are his shotgun snaps just awfully slow? seems like if he got it back there with some more zip, Romo might have an extra split second or so… I know we’re looking to upgrade LG… how about getting a center who can snap better and move Gurode to guard?
by Scoobay on Dec 15, 2008 10:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Gurode's shotgun snaps are agonizingly slow....
but since we all know what happens when he tries to rifle them back there (see last year’s Rams game), I’ll live with the slow, but accurate snaps.
And we tried Gurode at G – he’s much better at C.
by DannyWhite on Dec 15, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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