Pro Bowl Roster announced: 4 Dallas Cowboys named starters
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:08 PM CST
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PrintOfficially announced on NFL.com
Dallas Cowboys named as starters:
DeMarcus Ware, OLB
Jason Witten, TE
Jay Ratliff, NT
Andre Gurode, C
Dallas Cowboys named as alternates:
Leonard Davis, RG
The player and coach voting took place right after the Pittsburgh game, so I think that hurt Romo along with the missed games. I just think there are other deserving quarterbacks that should have made it instead of Eli Manning, who has shown he struggles to carry the team when they don't have a running game. But this just shows how much the Pro Bowl voting is a joke, about the same as Roy Williams continuously making it the past few years.
I also believe that this helps the Cowboys' team mentality. They have developed a certain "its us against the world, and now we have to prove ourselves" type of outlook. I do think that Bradie James got snubbed a bit, but the Pro Bowl is also about name recognition and he is just now putting his name out there.
It is great to see Ratliff finally get the props he deserves.
You can check out the entire roster here.
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Great Witten, makes it but T.O. doesn't
Just what we needed. I wish nobody made it except Ware. It’s silly anyway. Let’s foucs on the game, Do we really need another distraction this week. Let’s stop fueling the fire.
We will lose to the ravens.
by Captain Comeback on Dec 16, 2008 3:13 PM CST reply actions
Witten
has had a solid year.
Owens, not so much.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
TO didn't have a good enough year...His numbers are medicore for a starting WR in the Pro Bowl
Not when you have Boldin, Fitzgerald, tearing it up. I’m surprised Gurode made it over Davis….
Werd is a Turd......
Bradie James only started playing well the last few games...
not enough to get in as a starting ILB. The national media saw too many times Bradie getting toasted by TE’s to have a chance.
Werd is a Turd......
Disagree
He’s been playing well all season.
I do think national name recognition played a big part, but more the fact that the NFC has some great LB’s .
Maybe next season he’ll get more attention.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 16, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
-1
He does his job well, but nothing spectacular. He is not going to get many votes for a player that plays 2 downs a series.
Werd is a Turd......
That was my point
A lot of good ILB’s in the NFC, but you even admit he’s starting to be a play maker.
He does his job well
You contradict your previous statements that he sucks. I’ve been telling you all season, he’s been really solid, but you seem to want to denigrate him. You put Burnett and Spencer in front of James. Talk about invisible, Spencer has not lived up to the pre-season hype. I’m still waiting for him to breakout. Burnett can cover well, but, I haven’t seen any play on a consistent basis that makes me take notice of the guy. I don’t even think it’s close, besides Ware, James is the best LB on the team.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 17, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
James has been playing better the last month...previous to that he has been lacking
What he sucks at is pass defense, which is clearly his weakness. I consider him a good player, but not a pro bowler by any means. He will never ne considered a elite LB because he is one dimensioal. Same thing on Burnett…a very good coverage LB, but lacks in the other areas the reason he won’t get a new contract. Too bad, because he is the best coverage LB we have by far, but with his injury history and his quest for starter money he won’t be back. We have to address ILB and OLB in the draft.
Werd is a Turd......
James has pro bowl ability and talent
its a shame you can’t admit that as a Cowboys fan.
In Romo we Trust
No kidding.
How does a guy like Carney make it? I mean, he’s steady but he hasn’t had to make a game tying or winning FG (Well, a short one against Cincy), but Folk has been money all year long when it mattered. Except that miss right before the half against Arizona. So, he’s been money most of the time………but he still deserves it cause he’s Folk’in awesome.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Negative...
0-0 in 50+ this season. I guess you can give him props for not missing any.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Josh Brown as 6-8 and Ryan Longwell was 5-5...
I think the SB victory is what put Carney over the top.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Ah good point.
Then….name recognition? Cause for me it’s a toss up for kickers, but I think Josh Brown and Longwell deserved it more than Folk or Carney.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
I think Jason Hanson is the one who really got snubbed.
by Mandmeisterx on Dec 16, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Any one of the above named kickers deserve it more
Carney? What has he done?
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 16, 2008 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
I was listening to the radio here in Dallas and Brad Sham said that
Carney has a lot of FG’s and has only missed 2 this year, but that almost all of his FG’s have come in the red zone (<30 yds) and none have come over 40 (I think there was one miss.) Whereas Folk has hit 9 of 10 from 40+, but has not had a field goal from the 20’s. I guess the NYG’s have one of the worst td conversion rates once they reach the redzone, leading to big numbers for the kicker. Sham also said that most of the players and a lot of the coaches vote just based on stats, so that’s why Carney got the nod.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
That explanation makes sense
Especially with kickers, nobody pays much attention.
Thanks.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 17, 2008 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
And that FG versus Arizona
Hit the upright and bounced out
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
He might not have kicked many game winners,
but hes scored more points than folk so maybe they took that into consideration?
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 16, 2008 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats....
To the RAT….You deserve it man!
My question is about Nick Folk….
He made it last year…what more could he have done this year???
I mean….The Folk Hero…is…MONEY$$$$$$
Its just so random….
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
just too many good kickers in the NFC this year.
It seems they are all doing well
Werd is a Turd......
Damn straight
as mad as I am about everyone else getting snubbed, Kudos to Rat getting the MUCH, MUCH deserved pat on the back.
by no1cowboysfan on Dec 16, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
This is good.
With 13 players going last year, I think that just reinforced how great they were made out to be. This year, maybe it will ignite some pride. I can see Bradie James playing insane the next 2 games to show he deserved to be there too. CC, your the silly one…..
Eli Manning:
How does a guy ranked 18th in ypg and 16th in passer rating get voted in? Jeez….about as bad as Roy Williams making it the past few years.
10th and 9th in the NFC, respectively.
I guess I just really, really dislike the Giants.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Manning was a given
Superbowl MVP and has had a solid season, his team is in first place
Warner and Brees, again easy calls
Romo missed three games and has numerous turnovers, he wasn’t going to make it
Not really saying Romo needed to go instead.
But that Manning hasn’t been good enough. I think he beniffited from a great running game and the fact that his team is breaking down after voting stopped. Because without that run game, Manning hasn’t been that good.
If being a manager on a top team means you need to get in, the Kerry Collins should have made it.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
I don't call 12 INTs in 11 games numerous
Romo had just as good a year as both Brees and Warner, just look at the numbers, including turnovers, they weren’t better than Romo.
In Romo we Trust
+1
But I think Romos 3 missed games and the Piy debacle stopped him from making it. You can make an argument for Brees and Warner but no way Eli, the other spot should have been Romo or Ryan
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 16, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Romo was snubbed
It must be due to the 3 games he missed. Otherwise there’s no comparison. Manning’s pick is a joke.
Rivers got snubbed by the AFC too. Farve over Rivers? Come on.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 16, 2008 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Glad to see Rat
join the group. He has been chomping them up and spitting them out this year.
Congrats also to Ware, Witten and Gurode. Well deserved recognition for all.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
and Bigg Davis
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
I'm really happy for Rat, he definitely deserves it.
Although I must say that the 2 top rated qbs in the league didn’t make it, that would be like the leading hitter in baseball not making the all star team, just not right.
In Romo we Trust
not they're not
They are a true indication of a qbs performance because they equally consider the 4 most important stats of a qb, comp per, yds per att, TD% and INT%.
In Romo we Trust
No kidding.
I can’t believe Rivers didn’t make it. And you can’t say it’s because of record because apparently Drew Brees is the best thing since sliced bread.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
He's definitely more valuable to his team.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
He should win ROY award for sure
I agree, Rodgers and Ryan deserve it more than Eli, if Romo doesn’t get it.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 16, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
who cares
The Pro Bowl is one of the stupidest things in sports.
It's stupid. It sucks oxygen
and I told you weeks ago that Dallas would get five. I missed on Romo. who
should be there, but that’s okay. I’m sure the players would rather have playoff
wins than Pro Bowl spots.
And stop being so myopic about Nick Folk. He’s great for Dallas but look at the
kicker stats sometime. He’s in the bottom third in attempts, in a year where
several other kickers have better accuracy and more long kicks than he does.
I like the Pro Bowl...
I’m not in love with it, and I’ll even watch it if I’m bored. But I think we had a couple guys get hosed because they missed time due to injury…Eli never should’ve made it. Not to say Romo should, but Eli is mediocre on a good team with a ring. That’s it. However, Dan Snyder’s pitiful attempt to bring attention to his team made the entire organization look, well, pitiful…The Redskins are striving for the Eagles’ title as the Beast’s most classless team .
by AikmanNailedMySis on Dec 16, 2008 3:59 PM CST reply actions
The Good and the Bad in these picks
The Good is there will be no T.O. – the bad, no ROMO, he did deserve to go, but as others have said the injuries and the Pitt game hurt him.
Nothing more than a popularity contest.
Rodgers is actually having a fine season; only like Rivers, he’s doing it on a horribly underachieving team. Romo deserves to be in over Eli but does it really even matter?
Congrats to the selectees, but if we can't win a playoff game
it really doesn’t matter. GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Romo and Owens will have a giant chip on their shoulders
that will take them to new levels in the coming games. I hope so.
Flo
Is Flo 3rd on the list? With Samuels and Jones out, he might get the nod..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
It should be Columbo instead of Flo this year, to be honest.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think Flo has been better than some people think
he played a string of games with a stinger, which made him look worse
Not a lot of Snubs this year..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
good point
I don’t like Rivers the person, but his stats have been there..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Folk doesn't make it because of kickoffs
He’s money on FG’s but he’s bad on kickoffs. So you pick someone who’s good at both. That’s why he doesn’t deserve it. Not that it matters too much anyways.
by Brendan Scolari on Dec 16, 2008 4:42 PM CST reply actions
Carney has 3 touchbacks.
Not terribly impressive either.
by Mandmeisterx on Dec 16, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Well I wasn't defending Carney's selection
I just meant that Folk doesn’t deserve it this year. But kickoff’s are a really underrated aspect of kickers, and because Folk isn’t good at them, he shouldn’t be under Pro Bowl consideration, frankly.
by Brendan Scolari on Dec 17, 2008 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Uh no
Folk is 29th in field goals made. He’s 14th in FG percentage. He’s 9-10 from 40 to 49 yards. That’s impressive, but Jason Elam is 10-10 and John Casay is 9-9.
Folk is 2-2 from 50+. That’s nice, but so what? Hansen is 8-8. Josh Brown is 6-8.
Field goal kickers are selected on points. Folk only has 19 attempts this year. There are SIX other NFC kickers with 30 or more attempts.
You don’t get the attempts, you’re not part of the conversation. He was never a serious candidate this year, nor should he have been.
Yeh...I don't really count Folk as a snub.
So much that I dont Carney deserved it just for kicking a bunch of XP.
by Brandon Worley on Dec 16, 2008 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Great players all
Well deserved by these five. Yeah, Romo should go and I believe Folk is still the class of the NFL in kickers (ok, his kickoffs could be deeper but….). Bradie James got screwed but now the ’Boys are just another team trying to make the playoffs and not a Super Star Studded Soap Opera.
The funny thing about people saying
Romo didn’t make it because he missed three games is that, in spite of playing three less games than Eli, he still has more yards, more TD’s, a higher passer rating, and only one more INT. It’s just completely mind numbing to me.
Just keeping the Boys DOWN
All it is the media keeping the boys down, it is really just BS.
There is no way Eli should be there before Romo, hell Campbell should be there before Eli!!!!!
That shoots down the 3 missed games theory
I ’m sure Romo has many more Pro-Bowls in his future. It does piss me off that Eli Manning got the 3rd spot. I guess if your team wins the SB the year before and has a good current record, that trumps actual statistical proof of QB-ing skill.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Dec 17, 2008 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
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