Cowboys loss to Ravens a team affair
That loss to Baltimore was hard to watch. Like a television that only gets the Lifetime Movie Network. I'm still wondering how the Dallas Cowboys went out and blew their chance to control their own destiny and to become a team ready for the post-season. Sure, they can still get in with a little help and I'll hold on to that one saving grace, because if I didn't have that things could get ugly. But I do need to vent so here goes.
Venting coming on after the jump.

Let's start at the top with Wade Phillips. He's put together an impressive run with the defense over the last six weeks, but he's the head coach, too. The captain of the ship. When the ship hits a reef and rips a hole in the bottom, you can blame the navigator, the chart-maker, the second-in-command, even the lookout, but you're still the captain of the ship. And you're responsible for what happens with this football team. You need to deal with it or it could end up costing you your job.
Rex Ryan and the Baltimore defense was getting the better of Jason Garret most of the night. On the podcast earlier in the week, I noted how the Ravens move their guys around on defense and you never know who is coming. That was my biggest fear. They stunt, they fake, they delay blitzes, they zone blitz, they do it all and the Cowboys have had problems picking up free rushers from defenses like that all year. Tonight was a textbook example of how not to block a defense like that. It was abysmal. The play-calling was suspect and the offense just didn't look ready to compete. It could cost Garrett his assumed future as head coach.
The two interceptions Tony Romo threw were ridiculous. He floated wounded ducks right into Ed Reed's hand. One was a second down, so it wasn't the same as a punt, and only a great play from DeMarcus Ware immediately afterward kept it from being worse. The second one Romo gave to Reed near the end of the half set up the Ravens for a FG to take the lead. That was a horrible decision. Last week, when Romo got in trouble he did the smart thing and ate the ball and protected it. This week, he went back to the idea of winning the game on his own and gunslinging-it. Just because a play is called doesn't mean you have to throw it there if it's covered. There are other receivers in the pattern or you can throw it away. And missing a wide-open Miles Austin for a TD really hurt. Romo, I do commend your efforts in the fourth quarter. And yes, you're hurt and beat up and show tremendous courage in the pocket. You were under heavy rush in the pressure from the defense, and you made some great escapes. Injuries may have robbed you of some of your accuracy but you have to protect the football in a game like this and make the smart decisions. It didn't happen and it wasn't your finest hour.
The defense played brilliantly for most of the game, then came up with two of the worst plays in recorded history. They kept the team in the game and were a terror for 3 ½ quarters, then folded. Get a stop late and Dallas is still in the game even though the odds were getting long. But they couldn't get it done. It's hard to complain too bitterly about the defense but the ending of the game was some serious gallows' humor - only we weren't laughing. And Ken Hamlin? I can't even talk about that, it's too bleak.
The offensive line didn't do their job and Hudson Houck (combined with Jason Garrett) did not have them prepared at all to deal with Baltimore's defense. It was a brutal display of blocking. They could have gotten Romo killed.
The penalties? Just ridiculous.
I will say that Jason Witten at the end, and Tashard Choice for the whole game, played with heart and determination. If only the rest of the team could have followed suit.
The only thing I can do now is hope we still make the playoffs. Hanging on by a fingernail is better than not hanging on at all. It's never say die for me, until the body is actually dead. It's the only way to deal with this calamity.
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Great Summary Grizz
Very fair and balanced, sadly there is so much blame to go around. It’s a shame that no one stepped up. I love TChoice, but its disappointing that the team needs a rookie 3rd stringer to offer leadership in a huge game.
by 325424 on
Dec 21, 2008 2:07 AM CST
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Ratbirds take it.......
Great game for any fan. Chances were missed on both sides. Flacco missed wide open Heap at least 2 times and we put the ball on the ground a lot. The door was open for everyone. Garrett definately had some luster come of his head coaching dreams-some stages are set for ones path in the future. I think rex ryan (who has not shown much in 4th quarter D) may have cemented his place as St.Louis’ or Washington’s next coach. He has been a big win away from those opps. The biggest missed opp. for the Cowboys, in my judgement, was the fumble recovery/roll/toss to Mason. That was amazing. We gave up 7 points in the first half and 17 in the second when turned to a softer zone. At that point, like we did with Pitt., i thought the door was wide open for a Dallas comeback. Rex has a bad habit of running a 3 man D front with the lead in the final minutes. A lot of good fortune fell upon the Ravens tonight. In all honesty, it’s about time! and yes…Romo missed some mega chances too. But, he’s all beat up.
by raven on
Dec 21, 2008 2:18 AM CST
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Not only did Romo miss "a wide-open Miles Austin for a TD"
he also missed TO twice for sure TDs. I also agree that our D played great the first 3 quarters and kept us in the game, but they showed they arent championship quality folding when it mattered most. On the last Baltimore TD run five guys laid hands on their RB but couldnt bring him down, Tra Battle’s attempt was terrible. As was our o-line’s blocking.
All in all another abysmal December performance.
by aussie_cowboy on
Dec 21, 2008 2:18 AM CST
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The defense was on the field so much
Because of the offenses inability to sustain a drive, that they were exhausted and the levee burst at the end of the game
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on
Dec 21, 2008 10:40 AM CST
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Complaining about Tra Battle shows the true story of this season
That we’re relying on a guy who we just signed off another team’s practice squad to make a crunch time tackle shows how much injuries have decimated us this year.
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 10:59 AM CST
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i don’t get it…is it the temperature or what. that stat about the Cowboy’s December record was totally shocking. I never would have thought that.
by raven on
Dec 21, 2008 2:20 AM CST
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No sense of urgency...
It pains me to admit, but Warren Sapp’s post game comments ring true.
THE COWBOYS DID NOT BRING IT 4 QUARTERS.
C’mon, you have got to play an entire football game. What we got tonight was a ‘pop-up ad’ performance.
I realize it is a different era, but most of those honored after the game were incentivized to win. The players today make the money regardless of winning. And when you are faced with an off-season of having that extra money in your pocket for the mortgage, car, and groceries for the kids, I think you play at a different level of motivation, naturally. Todays game is not entirely about winning. And that’s a shame.
But how does that explain how the top AFC teams of this decade continue to win for winning sake? IMO, it is purely the recipe of personalities on their teams. In this league, you just cannot roll your hat on the field and expect the other team to lay down. You have to WANT to win. You have to find that edge. I don’t think these Cowboys, collectively, have the player leadership that can motivate and get that extra effort required to consistently perform in big games. No Staubach, no Harvey Martin, no Michael Irvin…no ignitor.
Ray Lewis said in an interview before the game the Ravens don’t do anything special except play 60 minutes of football. The evidence was plainly clear last night.
Wade Phillips should take a page out of Mack Brown’s playbook. Starting today, all positions should be up for grabs. The next 3 days of practice should be as physical as summer camp and no job should be guaranteed. That right there will light some fires and create the sense of urgency this team desperately needs. Maybe someone will step up and lead this team. And maybe the coaching staff and team management should create an environment that demands the very best from the players.
The fans rightfully expect this minimum level of performance. So should the organization.
by TXStampede on
Dec 21, 2008 6:34 AM CST
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sorry, i dont go for the 'its a different era' argument
32 teams play in this era and one wins the SB every year
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
by KDP on
Dec 21, 2008 8:02 AM CST
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Cheering for this team is like dating a porn star.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Dec 21, 2008 7:19 AM CST
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well...at least dating a porn star you'd assume there were SOME things she could do pretty well...
not so sure about this team…..
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Dec 21, 2008 10:53 AM CST
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Because every once in while it feels really good
but then you come away with an STD
by DavidH22 on
Dec 21, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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Can't just say the Cowboys blew it
Got to give props to who was the better team last night. We Ravens fans certainly know what it’s like to lose a game that you have a chance to win. However, we were the better team ALL night, no matter how good your defense played. The Ravens seemed better prepared and wanted it more than Dallas, who seemed to play as if they just had to show up to win.
Sorry, but seeing J. Jones sitting quietly in his skybox at the end was worth the price of admission.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 21, 2008 8:35 AM CST
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I hate to admit it but I think your right.
It just didnt seem to be our night. Passes just missing. Sure fumble recoveries jumping out of our hands. Fake FGs. Interceptions(at least a pass defensed) going though our hands. A banged up QB that got even more banged up. Your defense also gave our line a clinic. Good job! I hope our fans realize how long your core guys have been playing together and plying the same D.
by squidlo97 on
Dec 21, 2008 10:06 AM CST
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Exectly
Most of those guys have been together since that Super Bowl, I honestly think their the best defense played the entire year, better then the Giants and Steelers.
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 10:08 AM CST
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Uh Not Really
Only holdovers from our Super Bowl run are Ray Lewis and Matt Stover. Chris McAlister was on that team but he is on IR now.
Ray does seem like he’s ten guys out there though.
by DT711 on
Dec 21, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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Yes that must have been satisfying
not just for Ravens fans but for Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Steelers fans, etc.
It appears that Joe Flacco and John Harbaugh will be fixtures in Baltimore for years to come.
Odds are high, though, that Ray Lewis is still a murderer. Why else would he pay a million dollars to the child of the man who was stabbed to death? So that will be two killers in the NFL Hall of Fame. Good for you.
All this talk about Cowher or Holmgren (ugh) coaching in Dallas next year, what about Rex Ryan? I’d love his defense here, he’s probably got some fire too. Now what about the offense? Get rid of Garrett and hire some lower level offensive assistant with the Patriots or Panthers. Someone who has some experience with a successful, ball-control offense and who will appreciate the opportunity to run something in Dallas.
by DavidH22 on
Dec 21, 2008 8:46 AM CST
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David H!?
I’m surprised at you for making the old, classless, clueless “murderer” comment. Thought you were above that. I’m sure your Cowboys through the years were just angels. I saw North Dallas 40!
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 21, 2008 9:43 AM CST
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Classy Move David
Take your loss like a man
by DT711 on
Dec 21, 2008 1:41 PM CST
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Thanks for taking the pressure off our game with the Giants
Panthers in the post season!
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on
Dec 21, 2008 8:54 AM CST
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Can you still
kick the crap out of them tonight…for me!?
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 9:59 AM CST
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team finds a new way to loose every year!
Its not just that they have a nac for loosing big games the past few years, its that they rip your freaking heart out in the process. I go back to 05. 13-0 lead on the redskins after playing GREAT d all game and then Moss catches two bombs. Just like tonight. Great Defense all game and then two huge runs? The seattle slip. I mean they find ways to loose AND BE ORIGINAL at the same time. Its so maddening. Ken hamlin has the easiest fumble recovery of his carear, but he decides to lob it to the only raven within sight, Just like Flozel Adams, you can count on the defense keeping at least 1 drive alive and giving up points because of a pre-snap defensive offsides. SO rediculous
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on
Dec 21, 2008 9:05 AM CST
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Is it better to be a Cowboys fan or a Lions fan?
Seriously. Is it better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all? Is it better to have a team that has never been good or to have a team that rips your heart out year after year? The worst part about this is that next year will be the same thing: no true joy for the first 3 months of the season. If the Cowboys start 12-0 next year, will we really be able to revel in it, knowing that they are likely headed for another collapse?
The worst part was that it was a complete systematic failure. Offense, defense, and special teams all came unglued.
The second worst part is that if the miracle of miracles happen and they back into the playoffs, win a few games and reach or win the Super Bowl, we might end up stuck with these horrible, horrible coaches. I’m now in a position where I am almost hoping that my team loses next week. Thanks, Wade.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Dec 21, 2008 9:22 AM CST
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I live near Detroit
And TRUST ME it’s better to be a Cowboys fan.
The Lions have been blacked up up here for about 10 weeks, other than the Thanksgiving game.
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:03 AM CST
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Gone....
Wade Phillips is ultimately to blame for the two long TD runs in the 4th quarter. Sure, tackles were missed but when you put 11 in the box, there is no one to come up and make a tackle when the runner gets through the interior. It is stupid to put 11 in the box at that position in the field. There is no other way to say it. It is something a first-year high school coach does once and never does again. It is a different story on the goal line. If the guy gets through near the goal it is a TD regardless.
Kudos to the defense on a job well done. It appears to be a proud unit that pays hard but is misguided from the sideline.
For Xmas, I want…
Wade Phillips: Gone (and sheesh, I lke the guy, but…)
Bruce Read: Gone
Brian Stewart: Gone
Jason Garrett: Gone to be a head coach (somewhere in our division, please)
Bill Cowher: DC Head Coach (Starting Tomorrow Please)
Our players are good. This is all coaching, imo.
Terrell Owens plays hard. I like him. Why did we get Roy? We don’t even use him well as a decoy.
TChoice is great. Felix was too. I fear that MB3 is not a premier starting running back. Even before he got hurt he was not anywhere near the lead league in rushing but was the TOPS in fumbles.
The defense is great. I have no personnel complaints. I am sure that there are a few spots that could be improved, but… Bigger fish to fry.
O line… I think they get out coached more than out played.
Romo… i think he has a lot of talent. I think his ego is getting the better of him. He switched from a ball cap to a beret. nuff said…
by cdiede on
Dec 21, 2008 9:47 AM CST
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Yeah
Let’s hire an entire new staff so our players will have to learn an entire new system now. Bill Cowher is going to come out of retirement to be a DC, yeah sure, you want Garrett as a head coach even though he got out coached by rex ryan the entire game…yeah hope that works out for you.
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 10:00 AM CST
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Barber is a stud
He is top ten starting RB when healthy. He was clearly not healthy last night. Any NFL team would be lucky to have him.
by DT711 on
Dec 21, 2008 1:43 PM CST
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I'd trade MBIII in a heartbeat...I for one, was not happy with the contract or extention for that matter..
If we were to find a team seeking an RB…I’d trade MBIII for a 1st rounder and roll with Choice and Jones…….the money saved (about 6-7 mil/per) would land us a Al Haynesworth, a Ray Lewis, Corlos Dansby, etc……..sure MBII is fun to watch…but 3.7 yards per carry doesn’t get it done in this league…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
Dec 21, 2008 5:46 PM CST
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Eleven in the box
If you play eleven in the box, why do you have safeties (Hamlin) on the field instead of linebackers?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on
Dec 21, 2008 9:57 AM CST
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Because they reconize the personel and audible to a pass. Then you got a a LB trying to cover a WR.
by squidlo97 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:00 AM CST
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Highly Doubt
They were throwing the ball in that situation.
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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Football Eulogy...
Let me start by saying I have not been a life long cowboy fan. I came to this country 6 years back, and it took me 2 football seasons to become a cowboy fan. I got intrigued watching and reading about parcells and the first time my heart was broken was when we lost to the Panthers. Next was the Seattle Seahawks loss. Since last night i have not slept…and can’t seem to shrug off the feeling that this season is over. I know that come next July when the mini camp begins, i will again be back to root with all of my energy for this team, but you gotta question how many heartbreaks can one take? If i were to blame someone I would start with Jerry, he needs to understand that it takes heart to win these games, and no amount of stars and glitz will get you that. My prayer this morning was to GOD to help us somehow miraculously get through to the playoffs. After saying that I questioned myself, IS IT REALLY WORTH IT??
by thejanusman on
Dec 21, 2008 10:23 AM CST
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It's bleak, but there is still life. Atlanta loses in Minnesota and Tampa loses at home to San Diego and we'll control our own destiny again.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on
Dec 21, 2008 10:26 AM CST
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we just need 1 to lose today not both...
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:06 AM CST
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No we need both to lose
They both have gimme games next week. Atlanta against the Rams and Tampa against the Raiders.
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:08 AM CST
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why???
u only need to jump one of them not both….of course dallas must win next week
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:11 AM CST
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which is not a given
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Dec 21, 2008 11:13 AM CST
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obviously nothing is a given
i do not believe they win in philly anyway..however my point is tb and atl are not going to lose there last 2 dallas just needs 1 of them to lose today to have a chance thats all
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:18 AM CST
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dallas is in controll again if....
atl loses or tamapa loses…they do not need both to lose to be back in controll of there own destiny…
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:14 AM CST
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Don't forget about Chicago
If they win out they are also 10-6, assuming we win, and I believe it would come down to strength of victory.
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:19 AM CST
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nope
chicago is not threat…if we both go 10-6 dallas is ahead of them…u need a atl loss or tampa loss today…its that simple
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:21 AM CST
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You're right
We’re a game ahead of them in the loss column for conference record
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:23 AM CST
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atl or tampa will lose today
i think atl will be the one to go down/…its going to come down to philly next week…i do not feel so good about that right now…but hey at least we get 1 more meaningfull game….i am looking for more pain i guess
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:26 AM CST
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wrong...Tampa lost...IF we beat Philly...WE are IN the playoffs...
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
Dec 21, 2008 5:48 PM CST
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I remember our D lining up and me pleading for our D to maintain their diipline
and not trying to hard as individuals to make a play. Unforunately, everyone was trying to make the big play and lost gap control and disipline. He broke though the first wave and it was, 72 yards later, over. I want to be pissed but those guys played a very good game until those 2 plays. Those guys are just as sick as us.
I know the feeling is to run everyone out of town but too start over is not the answer. Garrett has been improving. Only last night he got a lesson from a great D. He is still new to this position. These are growing pains. They hurt! However he will be the better for it. We all thought he was a genius 2 years ago now he is suddenly an idiot. He is just learning on the job taking advanced classes. Id like to give him 1 more year. I think this guy will figure it out.
As for Wade, I think he has gotten this D to were we had all hoped. They will even be better next year and could dominate. He hasnt done a bad job when you think of the injuries and schedule. I think we would even be further ahead but because of injuries some of the growth was stunted.
I dont think we will make the playoffs but if we did who would want to play us. Nobody!!
by squidlo97 on
Dec 21, 2008 10:35 AM CST
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Huff, I don't think so
We just need one of those teams to lose, bottom line is though that there is no getting out of having to beat the Eagles next week, and frankly, as someone mentioned elsewhere, just prolongs the pain for us.
If and it’s a big if, it does happen where we do get a win from SD or Minn today, I will dutifully put myself square in front of the t.v. next Sunday and live or die with my Cowboys.
I think our best shot is with Minnesota today. Somebody tell me though about Chicago. I noticed that if they beat Green Bay today they will be 9-6. Do we, IF we win next week and haven’t been eliminated yet, do we hold tie breakers with them?
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:13 AM CST
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It will come down to strength of victory if we both finish 10-6
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:20 AM CST
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What is "strength of victory"?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Dec 21, 2008 12:03 PM CST
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Go Minn and SD
Make next week mean something…………….
Give the Boys a chance to right the ship
by oldtimer on
Dec 21, 2008 11:16 AM CST
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Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory
Tony Romo… the best QB never to win a playoff game, year three. It is time to bring in some competition for Bill Buckner John Van de Velde, Tony Romo. Fire Wade Phillips and his beleaguered side kick, Brian Stewart – the most unqualified coordinator in all the National Football League.
by Montecito Tex on
Dec 21, 2008 11:19 AM CST
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Don't leave Garrett out of it
He’s stunk it up all year
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:20 AM CST
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way Phillips had this D playing is great. If Garrett can get the O fixed, they’ll be fine.
and I do agree, bring some competition. We need a better #2 QB. That right there cost us.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on
Dec 21, 2008 11:25 AM CST
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+1....NOW all the nay sayers might want to re THINK their positions on us NOT drafting a QB early in next years draft...
Danny White’s ghosts are hovering over Antonio Romo……..he hasn’t played to his own capabilities..ALL season…..sure the numbers look alright…but Romo don’t….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
Dec 21, 2008 5:54 PM CST
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+1 ...I would fire Garrettt RIGHT NOW ....he desrves to be...and we wouldn't miss a beat...
Have Ray Sherman (WR coach) take over play calling starting next week in Philly……….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
Dec 21, 2008 5:52 PM CST
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i must say this tho....
jason witten is a football playing dude….god that guy is tough…
and tashard choice almost broke a few…..that’s a good football player….
the ravens just had their super bowl…if they get into the playoffs, they will get smashed…..unless they play denver…..but soon thereafter……tenn, pitt, jets, etc….those teams aren’t dumb enough to give up 250 rushing to a fat fullback and a mcgahee……
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Dec 21, 2008 11:21 AM CST
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I have to disagree
You really think the Ravens will get smashed by the NY Jets, who they would most likely play in the first round?
Be real man…. I can see Farve throwing four picks, the Ravens winning handily, and Farve crying in his press conference.
by DT711 on
Dec 21, 2008 1:46 PM CST
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Ravens
Are probably the second or third best team in the AFC, depending on where you place Tennessee.
They could easily be in the championship game. Good talent, very disciplined approach and smart coaching. Flacco really impressed me. He should be a good one.
by kindablue on
Dec 21, 2008 2:51 PM CST
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no....
the ravens win have to beat tenn or pitt at home to get into the championship game. they can win the first game if they play den. maybe the jets. but the ravens have no receivers. their best receiver has one arm. and their top receiving threat is todd heap. they play good D but any serious team with a balanced offense and defense will handle the ravens….just like pitt and tenn did…which is who they will hafta beat to get into the title game….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Dec 21, 2008 6:51 PM CST
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keep changing your tune
the ravens just had their super bowl…if they get into the playoffs, they will get smashed
first, they will get smashed in the playoffs.
they can win the first game if they play den. maybe the jets.
now, they might win one round but won’t win two.
have you seen their games against pitt and the titans. They were one last second play away in all three games. They have a rookie QB and head coach who are improving every week. I wouldn’t count them out so fast.
they play good D but any serious team with a balanced offense and defense will handle the ravens
your basically saying the cowboys are a joke.
good luck in the playoffs
by DT711 on
Dec 21, 2008 9:09 PM CST
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If
they’re out now, I hope they go and beat the crap out of the Eagles! Take them down with us!!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on
Dec 21, 2008 11:23 AM CST
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if birds lose...
there done for good no matter what atl or tampa does….which will make next weeks game meaningless for them….i still believe atl loses today and dallas will have 1 more meaningfull game
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:27 AM CST
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I
hope you’re right. That would be a nice Xmas present.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on
Dec 21, 2008 11:28 AM CST
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If, If, If
I know, why am I even speculating, but, are you saying Huff that with Chicago it would have to go all the way to that tie breaker? I think that’s the last one on the long list, is it not?
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:27 AM CST
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SCENARIO
I posted it last night…I’ll post it again…
Cowboys Must Beat Eagles Week 17
Falcons Must Lose 1 of Last 2 Games
Or
Buccaneers Must Lose Last 2 Games
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:32 AM CST
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no way
TB’s losing to Oakland. None.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on
Dec 21, 2008 11:37 AM CST
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Hell it might not matter
They’re getting dominated by San Diego right now.
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 1:01 PM CST
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ur welcome
now that saying dallas wins next week obviously and thats a big IFFFFF
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:32 AM CST
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No kidding
I think even if Wash miraculously wins today, plus Atl or TB loses too, that would still give them the same chance as the Cowboys have, they would enter into that game with us at 8-6-1, we enter at 9-6. We lose, they go to 9-6-1 and we end up in third place behind them at 9-7. I never thought I’d be doing anything but chuckling about their freaking tie.
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:36 AM CST
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If Washington wins
I’m pretty sure the Eagles are done.
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:38 AM CST
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No, wait a minute, that's not right
For the Eagles to win a spot that would mean that Atl or TB would have to lose out… my head hurts, lol
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:39 AM CST
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Damn f'n Cowboys
make my life hard
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:40 AM CST
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So whadya'll think?
About Atl/Minn today…
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:41 AM CST
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TB will not lose both games
So, we need ATL to lose today. So that we can go into week 17 and have the Cowboys break our hearts once again with what I’m sure will be a new and creative way of losing to Phil.
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 11:42 AM CST
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Its all i have today
At least I havent kicked the cat.
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 11:46 AM CST
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with all the talent we have...
we should not even be going through this sht…..we need some veteran leadership on this team…i thought zach would fit that bill but he has not…we also need the team to play like a team and not a bunch of individuals, until that happens we are in trouble….
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:42 AM CST
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As for me
I’m gonna dream until I can no more. The Dallas Cowboys oughtta appreciate me. Had to go to a freaking sports bar last nite, and all I got out of it was a hangover, and probably embarrassed myself with the karoake thing, dear God in heaven, there are some things you’d just rather have back
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:44 AM CST
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Damn Karoake
Gets you every time right?
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:44 AM CST
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bottom line
lets just hope atl or tb gets a loss today and we get 1 more meaningfull game here….thats the best we call all hope for at this time…my head hurts now….go minnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
by canty99 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:45 AM CST
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Such an appropriate tune..
I WALK THE LINE
by dcfansinceiwasababy on
Dec 21, 2008 11:45 AM CST
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I still blame the head coach for our problems this year
1. Romo has not progressed as a QB.
2. No back up QB was a concern.
3. Waiting 7 weeks to decide to look closer at the Defense
4. Not having a more creative Offense all year. or Not using all the talent effectively.
5. Not realizing that there were major issue is an O lineman went down.
Much of this should have been identified prior to to and during training camp. A HC needs to consider these types of contingencies and have a plan B or C.
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 11:49 AM CST
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Um
1. Injured
2. Isn’t his concern, that’s the GM or shall I say Owner
3. Agreed
4. That’s Garrett’s job…yes he’s the head coach but honestly how much control do you think Jerry gives him over the offense paying Garrett all this money.
5. GM/Owner again, gotta find a suitable back up.
I like Wade, he may not be the answer but getting nother head coach would just complicate things even more.
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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I disagree
1. It’s not the injury issue. Its the decision making and I belive he was averaging a turnover a game long before the pinky/back problems. The HC should have his OC or position coach focused on this issue.
2. The HC is in charge of evaluating his own talent not the GM. He would need to identify the issue to the GM and the one thing you can say about Jerry is if we need something he’ll go get it. I think Jerry is doing everything in his power to support his HC.
4. I don’t buy it. Like you said he is the HC and his job is on the line. He can find a way to get more involved. I don’t think Jerry would keep him from reviewing offensive strategy or particiaping in the O meetings.
5. Same as #1.
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 11:57 AM CST
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GM
Is in charge of signing the guys, just because Wade wants a different player, doesn’t mean Jerry has to sign him.
by joey7289 on
Dec 21, 2008 12:06 PM CST
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But if the GM isn't told it's an issue he can't sign anyone
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 12:08 PM CST
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give it a rest staubach.......joey clearly defined the real responsible parties...
Don’t go blaming Wade for that vanilla crappy ass offense….and it’s Jerry’s bad for not addressing the back up QB position……..IF Jerry had a viable back up QB…I would have pulled Romo last night……..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
Dec 21, 2008 6:23 PM CST
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I'm so glad you aren't coaching
because I have news for you…a viable backup wouldn’t have done any better….give Ravens defense some credit.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Dec 21, 2008 6:53 PM CST
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We only need Tampa to lose one.
We beat them head-to-head.
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by jsams on
Dec 21, 2008 11:54 AM CST
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The head to head means nothing in a 3 way tie
Head to head only applies if 1 team has beaten the other 2
by mhuff13 on
Dec 21, 2008 1:03 PM CST
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Wade has been a very reactionary coach.
Once we see a problem for about 3 or 4 weeks he’ll address it. He is not proactive at all. His O and D should find ways to take advantage of other teams weaknesses. Instead we stay with something that works and then after the other teams scheme a response we take a few weeks to react. And that is why this team has a poor record late in the season.
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 11:59 AM CST
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I think Jerry has done everything to support his HC providing talent
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 12:09 PM CST
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but the talent knows that they answer to Jerry, not Wade
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Dec 21, 2008 12:14 PM CST
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Also, We are not firing the GM so..
We need a coach that can work within the paramaters provided by Jerry.
by staubachfan on
Dec 21, 2008 12:22 PM CST
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which crosses a lot of names off the list of potential coaches
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Dec 21, 2008 12:25 PM CST
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hey guys - does anybody know of a live stream to the Bucs/Chargers game online?
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on
Dec 21, 2008 12:33 PM CST
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Coaching
Man, we have got out coached all season. I am Jason Garrett supporter, but not so sure now.. His game plans have been way to predictable.. His ability to adapt stinks..
Why not max protect and shorten the routes. He is always looking down field.. You are just not going to get those kind of opportunities vs. the Ravens.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on
Dec 21, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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Dallas Is DONE!!
Fire Jason Garrett.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on
Dec 21, 2008 5:17 PM CST
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not true on both counts
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Dec 21, 2008 6:50 PM CST
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Well
Garrett needs to be tho, he failed to establish the run in the 1st half and that’s why the defense wore out in the 2nd half.
Trust me, he will make the same mistakes against Philthy.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on
Dec 22, 2008 12:38 AM CST
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Jerry will never fire Garrett
thats like saying he’d fire himself as GM
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Dec 22, 2008 8:34 AM CST
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Then...
Jerry will NEVER win another Lombardi with Garrett calling the offensive plays. We can win with Wade but not with Garrett.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on
Dec 22, 2008 9:36 AM CST
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I disagree
I think with more experience he’ll end up being a great coach.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Dec 22, 2008 9:52 AM CST
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Garrett!
“We are a running team. You are the damn-dumbest smart kid I know.”
I commented. You're welcome.
another transplant from The Blue & Silver Report
by bulldog jeeper on
Dec 22, 2008 4:53 AM CST
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