The Silly Season Begins: Garrett Interests Detroit & Maybe Cleveland
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 12:02 AM CST
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Dallas OC Jason Garrett was granted permission to speak to the Detroit Lions about their head coaching vacancy. Giants DC Steve Spagnuolo and Titans DC Jim Schwartz are also top candidates for the job, though they cannot yet interview with the Lions. Redskins secondary coach Jerry Gray will also interview for the job.
-- If the Lions want Spagnuolo, they will have to outbid the Jets and the Browns, who are also very interested in him.
-- Garrett is also a possible candidate for the Cleveland Browns, though owner Randy Lerner is focused on landing a GM, after Bill Cowher turned him down. Patriots personnel honcho Scott Pioli is the hot name here.
-- The Rams interviewed Packers assistant Winston Moss today and will also interview Vikings DC Leslie Frazier and Ravens DC Rex Ryan, when they become available. They have already ruled out Spagnuolo and Patriots OC Josh McDaniel, claiming they are too expensive.
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How do you go cheap on the Head Coaching position?
Spags wanted by two 3-4 teams interesting..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 12:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can see avoiding the really big money
These guys are hot commodities but they’ve never been HC before.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 12:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Point taken..
Might be able to find a Mike Tomlin by interviewing the right guys.
Any thoughts on where Cassel lands?
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Cassell will go wherever McDaniel goes. Which might be the same place as Pioli
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 12:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That might be scary
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." -Tyson
by cmr3 on Dec 30, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Pioli goes to the Browns....
…there will be no room for Cassel.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling they might all end up at the Jets
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jets have Tannenbaum as their GM and he's not going anywhere
so Pioli isn’t going to the Jets…
Jets are going after Cowher hard, if they don’t get him, I could see Gruden if he’s let go in Tampa or Marty Schottemheimer…
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Any chance
Cassel is the scond coming of Scott Mitchell?
works great in one particular system?
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Works great in one particular system
Cassel is nothing great
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe why
Pioli and McDaniel take the Cleveland Job and work with Quinn or D. Anderson.. They can get something for either one and start competing.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland will hire Pioli and McDaniel.....Cassells will go to Detroit....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's C-A-S-S-E-L
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I say let him go
He’s been overrated from the start by everyone. Sparano was never fully appreciated during his time here. I know they’ve said no, but maybe SD will fire Norv and he can return home where he belongs. If Norv can’t get Romo tamed then no one will
by SLIDE 910 on Dec 30, 2008 1:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Slide
A new OC might make a difference, but this team needs to rebuild its O-line if it wants to be an elite team. I’ll post a longer piece on this soon, maybe later Tuesday.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 1:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't rebuild the O-line.....
Were locked into all except for Kosier and he isn’t the problem. We would take a huge hit if we cut any of these players…Flozell maybe the only player we can unload without taking a huge hit, but it wouldn’t be cheap regardless.
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you settle for good but not great?
Would Dallas pass on another Larry Allen/Ron Stone caliber guy because they’re locked in?
Besides, there’s age there. Flo is old. This team needs depth too. They should find a C/G to replace Proctor and an OT backup to replace McQuistan, and hope that one or both are good enough to challenge the starters soon.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree w/ Boyzfan
I would love to be able to replace some of the meatheads on our O-line, but we are pretty much locked into those contracts across the board (w/ the exception of Kosier). That being said I would love to be able to replace Kosier w/ a possibly great OG like Duke Robinson, but as Boyzfan said it wasn’t like Kosier was the big problem this year.
Another thing that concerns me is that if we’re looking to replace Flo we might not be picking in the right spot. Most quality starting tackles (especially LT’s) go in the first round and w/ the bust rate we’ve been getting out of our o-line picks the last few years I’m very reluctant to pick a position that is historically difficult to find outside of having a first rounder. If we go o-line I’m hoping for a guard.
by boysinyabelly on Dec 30, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
People say the loss of Kosier wasn't the problem, yet with him in there, the O Line rocked...
The problem with our O Line is that there are no individual standouts, sure you can say we have/had 3 Pro Bowlers, but tha…Flo plays better when he has decent/great players NEXT to him,(Larry Allen, Kyle Kosier)….but if he must take on more responsibility because of the lack of talent next to him (Proctor, McQuistan) he becomes mediocre……same can be said for Gurode, as he didn’t become the pro bowl type player he is perceived to be now until Bigg Davis lined up next to him…same can be said about Davis and Columbo too……..each played off each other, each are better with good talent next to them, and none are great when talent is taken away from them…….I’m not a big fan of Kosier’s, but this season truely showed me how just being a decent OL can go along way to keeping the unit strong and consistant……….IF we were going to grab ANY free agent at all this offseason, Left OG- Mike Goff of San Diego would be my prime target….He has been healthy his whole career, doesn’t miss games, relatively young for the position, and has been blowing open holes for LT for many years now…….Goff would make Flo better, make Gurode better, and would lock this O Line up for many years to come……..Kosier has one year left on his contract, and Holland would make for GREAT depth at both OG positions, and can/have played OT in a pinch….IT is our biggest position of NEED….as none of our current reserves Free, Marten, McQuistan, Proctor, and Berger have shown what it takes to belong in a starting lineup..By signing Goff…..we would not have to dedicate our first overall pick (48-52) to an OL, as nobody selected there would be close to helping us immediately, or in the near future…That being said, and the probability of losing DL, LB’s, and Safety depth real soon…We can focus in on getting the very best available at those positions…I am not opposed to selecting an OL in the 2nd round…IF one of the higher rated linemen should fall to us…then we go for it…but we go out and sign a solid, NFL ready and proven guy like Mike Goff, It completely solidifies our starting unit, AND gives us proven depth with Kosier, Holland, and probably Doug Free…IF Chris Canty is lost to Free Agency, It brings a ripple effect to the rest of the DL, Spears will be in his final year, and Hatcher hasn’t proven he’s ready to be a 3 down player, and moving Ratliff outside without a top notch NT would be a mistake…….There are no 3-4 DE’s available in this years draft with starter potential besides T Jackson from LSU, and he’ll go in round 1. Although Canty’s play wasn’t awe inspiring this season, we are almost compelled to make him a really good contract offer to stay……
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our OL is very talented, just not very smart
Not intelligent enough to recognize blitz schemes and pickups and way too may penalties.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 31, 2008 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Boyzfan
I would love to be able to replace some of the meatheads on our O-line, but we are pretty much locked into those contracts across the board (w/ the exception of Kosier). That being said I would love to be able to replace Kosier w/ a possibly great OG like Duke Robinson, but as Boyzfan said it wasn’t like Kosier was the big problem this year.
Another thing that concerns me is that if we’re looking to replace Flo we might not be picking in the right spot. Most quality starting tackles (especially LT’s) go in the first round and w/ the bust rate we’ve been getting out of our o-line picks the last few years I’m very reluctant to pick a position that is historically difficult to find outside of having a first rounder. If we go o-line I’m hoping for a guard.
by boysinyabelly on Dec 30, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with aussie Cowboy
I’d say the Jets or the Browns. Though if Pioli goes to Cleveland, he’s already got Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn. Cassell won’t follow, even if McDaniel does.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 1:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland and NYJ
Are good jobs, they have some really nice pieces in place.
Cleveland needs a RB, and some DB’s- RB’s are relatively easy to find.
NYJ needs a QB and WR’s-Cassel solves the QB
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't see the Charger firing Norv
He had to overcome Hochuli’s messup, fired his DC in midseason, got the ship righted with a declining LaDainian Tomlinson.
Smith is not a knee jerk GM. He’s keeping Norv. If they get past the Colts, which is very possible, then who scares them? The AFC has a lot of nasty defenses and so-so offenses. Norv may have the hottest QB left if he and Philip Rivers get past Peyton Manning.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 1:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll make one early prediction
if Garrett leaves, he’ll take his brother with him. I HOPE he takes Hud with him too.
If Garrett picks some offensive assistants, Wade gets another shot at remaking his offense.
I’ll bet Al Saunders is a guy he recommends. Saunders was the OC for the Rams last year. They didn’t do much, but they had no offensive line talent. Wade I’m sure remembers that awesome Chiefs offense Saunders ran for Dick Vermeil at Kansas City. It was #1 what, four years in a row?
If that happens, then Wade gets another shot at hiring Mike Solari as his OL coach. Solari was the OL coach for Vermeil and Saunders at K.C. Ask Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson about the lines they built for him.
Jerry interviewed Saunders back when he hired Dave Campo to be HC. He knows the guy. His system is a more sophisticated version of the offense Norv Turner and Mike Martz run. It suits the talent already in Dallas.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 1:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
that should say "he built for them"
Time for bed.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 1:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My worry about a Saunders offense
is that it’s too complicated for the players to master in the short-term. Granted, it may be just an expansion of the vanilla garbage Garrett has given us the past 24 games. If that’s the base, then I think he’s a fine hire. Saunders isn’t afraid to motion his receivers or run them shallow across the middle, at least.
A really awesome opportunity existed with Cam Cameron being available last year, and it was wasted.
by Urinal Mint on Dec 30, 2008 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Name me one fan, pundit or anybody
who saw last year as an “opportunity.” Jerry was frantic to keep him from leaving to Baltimore and so was everybody else. The irony is, had Garrett taken that job, Cameron might well have come.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bothers me a little
That word of Detroit is Roy is lazy and it takes him a while to grasp the playbook.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats why I didn't like this trade
from the beginning…his isn’t known as a hard worker and free lances to much.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What I forgot to mention was that Wade had to try stopping Solari's lines when
he was the DC for Marty Schottenheimer’s Chargers. He had to try stopping Saunders offense too.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 1:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope someone actually hires Garrett
looks like somebody could actually end up “stuck” with him. That would be great.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 30, 2008 2:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
As with Rodney Dangerfield's schtick," Now, take my wife...please take my wife"!
Now , take our OC….please, somebody, take our OC!
Wharter
by Wharter on Dec 30, 2008 7:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was Henny Youngman
Rodney was ’No Respect,; which unfortunately fits in quite well now
'You can recognize true genius by this: all the dunces are in confederacy against you' - Sir Francis Bacon
by tdships on Dec 30, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right...it was Henny Youngman. Thanks!
Wharter
by Wharter on Dec 30, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Glory....I'm on my knees praying Detroit gets "hoodwinked" (like Jerry did) by Garrett's Ivy League jargan and persona of being "boy genius"
This would be the best case scenario, I’m begging for the removal of this tool Garrett……..as Romo & TO “have already called out” Garrett’s lack of play calling abilities, and I’m sure the same feeling is felt throughout the locker room….
Raf’s made some good predictions…Al Saunders would work wonders here, and has long been considered one of the best OC’s in the business, and bringing along a new OL coach in Mike Solari would solidify this OL to become more of a power running team, with the abilities of our 3 RBacks…
I doubt highly Ray Sherman(WR coach), or Skip Peete(RB coach) would go with Garrett, and I’d like to keep those two guys here as well……..
Let Garrett take his brothers, and maybe hire his dad as player personel director, and send him off to Detroit….PLEASE…………… WILLIAM CLAY FORD…..PLEASE DO US THIS FAVOR !!!
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
Garrett’s play-calling was so screwed up that the receivers were running one play while the QB was throwing another.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They have to take Garrett
as additional comp for the RWII tarde
'You can recognize true genius by this: all the dunces are in confederacy against you' - Sir Francis Bacon
by tdships on Dec 30, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Garrett
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.. Everyone wanted Parcell’s gone, no we have Wade. Don’t be so sure that the offense will be better without Jason, especially not the following the season. That is the continuity jerry is talking about. If we have to learn a brand new offense, it may take us a whole season to get it down. Then what? Can you handle another season of the offense looking lost? Jason is very intelligent guy, learning on the job, I think he can adjust and learn his mistake this off-season. This is a league full of experienced coaches; did we really think a guy who has never called plays before is going to always be one step ahead of veterans like Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson, and Dick Lebeau? Every coach has been out-smarted in this league, how do you learn from it, if you have never seen it? We faced 4 out of the top defenses in the last week. That will give Garrett all the film he needs to prepare for next season. Baltimore, Pitt, NYG, and Philly- he will learn from those mistakes and we will never look back. I really don’t want to the offense to have to learn a brand new scheme. Jason Garrett will learn, I have faith, the guy is just to intelligent. I do think he needs a experienced position coach under him who can help him game plan like Spranao did..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh please.....Garrett was running high school caliber plays.,..no loss if our team needs to learn a REAL offensive system from an EXPERIENCED OC
It wasn’t just 4 teams that outcoached him….This offense underperformed all season long…..Any offensive output we got this year was strickly on the talent of our play makers,….and not the offensive scheme that was run..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I respect your opionon
I disagree, I think we had a quality scheme going all last year and going in to this year, and other teams caught up. Happens all of the time, in professional sports. I think we could have been a lot better, but we weren’t. I also think we will be a lot better next year, Garrett is learning, and he was taught a very hard lesson.. Always stay ahead of the game..
It was no accident we dropped 41 on Philly week 2. Where you complaining then? I doubt it. The difficulty of the NFL is what makes us so such passionate fans..
Romo said teams caught up, I believe him. Next year we have to stay head of the game.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 11:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teams caught up ??...More like he was running the SAME LAME plays in week 2 and 16
And every week between…….I sure hope your right with notion that Jason Garrett is a very good OC……Cuz that’s the only way he’ll get the heck outta here and go run some other offense into the ground…PLEASR DETROIT, CLEVELAND, DENVER, NYJ, ST LOUIS, OAKLAND, ETC……PLEASE TAKE OUR " STILL LEARNING HOW TO COACH"
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 31, 2008 2:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is garrett
the second coming of david shula?
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the thought of Saunders/Solari
The Skins obviously missed Saunders this year. Those guys should be able to take this Volkswagon offense with Porsche parts and turn it back into a Porsche. I remember the 05 game against them that the Boys magically won. The whole world knew they were going to run and our defense was helpless against it. Just think what they could do with that line and Barber/Jones/Choice.
by illcowboy on Dec 30, 2008 2:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
U see how Saunders worked out in Washington
he was touted as a genuis too..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Larry Johnson running sweeps
at the edges of the Dallas defense and scoring untouched. That line, with Willie Roaf, Brian Watters and the rest, was a machine.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 2:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's what I remember, too.
And wondering what in the world you could do to stop it. And Gonzalez was their only real pass-catching threat, so you really didn’t have to honor that much and they still crammed it down your throat.
by illcowboy on Dec 30, 2008 2:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GOD!!!!!!!
I am so effing glad that Jason Garret turned down the Ravens job. No one wants that Red Headed wussy as a head coach. KEEP COACHING LOSERS JASON!!!!!!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
by Mr MaLoR on Dec 30, 2008 2:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I find it imminently amusing
that a Ravens fan finds time to keep showing up on a Cowboys blog. Whats your trip? Are things slow in Baltimore? I mean, after all, your team has a game to play next week, ours doesn’t. Do you also frequent a Detroit Lions blog as well? Seriously, you need some meds or something.
by Benthere on Dec 30, 2008 2:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Na
Just wanted to make sure that you know that your team is not the greatest thing since sliced bread. And yes I did make a trip to the Lions blog to give them credit for their 0-16 season.
Came over here to basically just make sure that you know you guys dont deserve to be talked about every 5 minutes like you are. I guarentee that cowboys will still be a main headline even during superbowl week. Jessica Simpson will have an abortion and it will be the main story on sportscenter.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
by Mr MaLoR on Dec 30, 2008 3:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you try to show us that we dont deserve to be talked about...
bby coming on our blog and talking about us?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 3:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His team wins,
and he’s still jealous. How pathetic.
by rassoodocks on Dec 30, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you have things mixed up.
The Cowboys don’t talk about the Cowboys, the media talks about the Cowboys. 99% of what you see reported is opinions and guesswork. It’s not the Cowboys PR team buying air time to talk about the Cowboys. By the way, 50% of the time the media get’s it wrong.
by staubachfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's called penis envy
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 30, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one envies that Baltimore-lovin' prick!
Wharter
by Wharter on Dec 30, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How does coach contrat work ?
Is it different to player’s ? I thought Garret was under contract with dallas ? If so and he wants to go somewhere how does it work ? Does the new team pick up his previous contract ?
by Helene on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
his contract would be voided, and he'd sign a new contract with the team (or sucker) that hires him.
Jerry could still command compensation if he wanted to, as Garrett is also “associate head coach here”, but i think Jerry would actually throw in a box of cuban cigars if somebody else would take that dead wood OC off our hands…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only way we get rid of Garrett....
Is he takes a assistants position with some other team. Honestly if i were him, i would seriously reconsider coming back to the boys not after Romo and all the WR’s are questioning the offensive philosophy.
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett
was calling way too many interception plays.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
Ok fellas, it’s Miss Your Blocks and Get the QB Sacked on two. on two. ok? ready…. SET!
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops,
False start, No. 76 …
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny
QB sweep right fumble on one…..ready break.
They’ll never expect that play!!!
by staubachfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The team could deny him the opportunity to interview
but teams as a policy do not prevent coaches from interviewing for promotions. It leads to bad blood and keeps you from getting quality people to join you.
If Garrett or any other coach gets a promotion, he negotiates a new deal.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Palmer
He used to be the QB coach when Romo became the starter. Any idea if he is available?
We need someone to work with Romo on Ball Protection and Pocket Awareness. I am not sure if Wade Wilson even shows up on game days for us.
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 8:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wade Wilson is too busy shooting up some HGH.....Palmer is over in Miami and not going anywhere..
Wade Wilson should also be replaced….as Romo regressed this season, lacked disipline, and was questioned by many teammates about his practice habits and work ethics this season….and it showed..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 8:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dude...HGH was a medical supplement he used...
He is a Type-1 Diabetic…let’s not beat him up on that
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 8:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But, but, but
if you get rid of all of the people responsible for Romo’s failings, Tony would have to step up and take some responsibility for his play.
Good lord, we can’t have that!
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, how the mighty have fallen..
Just a few short months ago, Garrett was a genius…now?…not so much. I’m not so sure he was as brilliant as he was formerly touted to be, nor is he as dull as he is being labeled now. I won’t be broken hearted if he stays because I think he will be a better OC next year.
He will see what the DCs around the league used against him and the next chess move to counter is his. His last three or four opponents were among the best defenses in the league, meaning that they usually spanked everyone.
His weapons were depleted. No Felix, no Kosier to unify the O-line, Barber is hobbling, Romo is wounded, Roy Williams has a bad foot (maybe explaining his poor routes), and Witten is held together with duct tape. We were a wounded animal. He has to improvise, adapt, overcome you say? OK, well easier to say than do.
As we continued to bleed out, our offense became more predictable and our opponents got stronger (ie top league defenses) I’m reminded of that Monty Python scene where the Black Knight has lost both arms and legs, blood squirting out through all of his wounds, and he is still threatening to bite his opponent if he gets close enough. That Black Knight had a star on his helmet.
I do think there is some good that comes with continuity, and as I said, I do believe Garrett will bounce back next year.
With that said, I won’t be broken hearted if he leaves. Maybe what we all need is a fresh start. I think Garrett would be best served in Detroit, where any improvement looks like a real good thing. Who ever we might get is going to inherit a real solid core group of players, hopefully healthy, and will probably enjoy the same type of first year success that JG did.
As for Romo…I think he is a winner. He had a horrible year with turnovers and in part, those turnovers were a result of the perfect storm of injuries and poor defensive play from the Cowboys. What did the guy do from the 13-3 year to this year that made him put the ball on the ground so much? Jessica Simpson? Please.
I’d say the same things that caused his hand to get broken and his ribs to get bruised and his back to get damaged were a big part of the turnovers. Protection, or lack thereof. It’s hard to be aware of the pocket when there is no pocket. If you have to throw the ball, it’s going to be exposed. Let’s get the guy some protection and see how he does. I’m betting he lights it up again.
My third point is.. if any of you here visit other teams sites to inject ‘helpful’ comments, such as the knucklehead from Baltimore… please stop. It’s childish. I hope that when the holiday season ends, and grade school starts back up, that Raven fan will be too busy coloring and practicing cursive writing to share his/her insights with us.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Dec 30, 2008 8:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think before we just get frustrated and throw everyone under the bus, it would be helpful to determine how good this team would be with all of its weapons healthy. 13-3 and 9-7 records would not get many coaches canned unless they coached for Al Davis.
Let’s face it. this team was not deep enough to lose the players it did at their respective positions. Look at the safety position (which wasn’t great to start with). By the time we played Philly, we had two on IR and the ones playing were on the injury report. Then on top of that, the Raiders beat Tampa Bay on the road no less! Are you serious? We caught the perfect storm guys, simple as that. Do we need some upgrades? Sure, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. I say we need a better backup QB, depth on the OL, and upgrades at the safety position. Also, Santa could send me a big fat nose tackle if he were so inclined.
by jevans1729 on Dec 30, 2008 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I 2nd The Above Statement
If Garrett leaves, how many OC will that mean Romo has been forced to learn under?
An Al Saunders system is very confusing. From what I understand he has the most extensive playbook in the entire NFL. You guys want to talk about learning curves?
I’m praying Garrett gets 1 more year.
by Prime-Time on Dec 30, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm now wearing this signature in another forum that has nothing to do with the Cowboys
There are a ton of Cowboy haters over there even though it’s not even a football forum. I vowed to wear it until the Cowboys and Romo can win a playoff game, which could be a very, very long time. It’s a sad depiction, but I think it pretty much sums up the Boys and how they’ve played and how I feel when they do us fans the way they’ve done all season.
by sublimezg on Dec 30, 2008 9:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
you might be wearing that signature for a long time
I think you need to add a befuddled looking picture of Wade Philips, there should be plenty of those around…
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Wade
should vow not to shave until the Cowboys make the Super Bowl.
Then he could move on to join ZZ Top.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 9:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
More trades
Here’s what I’d like to see: we get Cassel, assuming he’s not franchised. We trade Romo and Barber to Detroit for their first round picks. We can then use our first pick for some more trades.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 9:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL!! thanks for the laugh
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not laughing
If I could Cassel, I would get rid of Romo in a jiffy. This guy is going to continue making mental mistakes. He’s not going to improve. He may be able to complete a perfect 75 yard pass, but he’s to fumble or throw the interception that’s going to cost us the game. I was a big defender of him, but I’m through.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or go back to the nutward
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ad hominem
These ad hominem attacks you always make against to people who criticize Romo are a symptom of your trust in Romo.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo is our franchise qb
whether you like it or not..if you’re now a hater of him then maybe you should go root for another team because he isn’t going anywhere.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is everyone sold on Cassel
What has he done?
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely nothing
Are the Pats in the playoffs?? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Their 11-5
Cassel has 2 more wins than Romo this year doesn’t he?
by Philosopher on Dec 30, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats because he played in 3 more games
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And because he played the AFC and NFC West this year
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
absolutley nothing...
he plays behind a great offensive line and has Randy Moss…nuff said
by MdFan24 on Dec 30, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1000... bingo!!
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of like how everyone thoought Mangini and Crennel were great
What did they do in NY and Cleveland??
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What has Romo done?
Absolutely nothing.
Cassel’s played excellent for guy who has never started a game in his life before this season. Romo has been average for a guy who’s played more than two seasons and has excellent weopons.
And his offensive line has stunk this season: he’s been sacked 47 times, versus 20 for Romo. He’s also more mobile than Brady. More mobile and atheletic than Romo.
Just look at Moss’s numbers this season. They’re worse than Owens’s.
I don’t want a flashy QB. I want a QB who makes little mistakes. Despite playing more games than Romo, he’s had less fumbles and interceptions. He’s good enough that the Patriots may consider franchising him.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
300 lb lineman
That’s right, Terry. Despite being sacked 47 times and having 300 lb lineman come at him, he’s had less mistakes than Romo. Less mistakes in more games.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's not the playmaker Romo is either
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about playmakers
I want someone to get the job done cleanly. I don’t care if he’s able to avoid a sack on one play but fumbles or throws an interception on another.
Look at the Giants. They don’t have playmakers. They just have players that get the job done.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
then you obviously don't care about winning SB
because your qb has to be a playmaker to win championships, thats a proven fact….unless you have a defense on par with the 85 Bears and we don’t.
I got news for you, Eli made plays in the playoffs and SB last season..don’t kid yourself. The Giants have playmakers.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants don't have play makers
They have no one called a play maker. They have players who step up and make plays when needed. David Tyree or Eli are not play makers.
They have guys who just grind it out like any other job.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not true at all
you can’t win in this league without playmakers, thats what the game is all about…making plays.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 31, 2008 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats complete BS
You name another qb who has put up the kind of numbers Romo has put up in starting only 2.5 seasons…you can’t.
I got news for you, Pats will not franchise Cassell because they would have to pay him more money than Brady.
Bottom line is that Romo is a proven commodity in this league whether you believe that or not….Cassell isn’t.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about numbers, either
I want someone to get the job done. If he can throw for 20 touchdowns in a season but make little mistakes and get us to the bowl, I am happy.
Palmer has put up good numbers, but where is he? Look at Roethlisberger—he just gets the job done. So does Eli. I remember Cowboy fans were saying how Giants fans are going to be screaming for him to get out by the fifth game this season. I’m still waiting for that.
Just get the job done and go home. I don’t care about style points.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel is a product of the system he plays in
He’s really not that good
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What is that?
That’s what I heard about Emmitt and Troy.
Cassel’s not a drone. There’s little free-lancing in the NFL. Everyone’s a product of a system.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots play a New Jersey Devils type of football
Don’t make mistakes on offense…hope that you make a mistake and then they capitalize on it
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And that's a fine way to play
We should adopt it.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YM
I understand your frustration with Romo and production of this offense. BUT it is near impossible to compare Romo’s play to Cassell. You mentioned their sack totals but forgot that Romo was out for 3 games and played nearly half the season with a broken thumb and back contusion. How many sacks has Romo evaded in his career? He makes our line better than it is.
What’s great about Romo is his Athleticism (and trust me he is far more athletic across the board than Cassell) and Houdini mystic. But that is also what we Hate, because he turns the ball over at the most inopportune times.
Eli plays behind the best line in football. Dallas accounts for over half his sack totals and he played like crap when defenses did get pressure.
Roethlisberger – Is a younger version of Drew Bledsoe (Statue with a canon). He relies completely on his defense.
I wouldn’t trade Romo for any of the quarterbacks you compared him with. Despite playing in the toughest division and going up against the 4 toughest defenses these past four weeks, Romo is still in the Top of QB ratings.
Give Cassell another year before deciding that he’s the next John Elway.
Funny, how the Romo haters come out of the wood work when we don’t make the playoffs. Where were you guys last year? Where were you guys when Romo was out for three weeks and we were left with Brad FREAKING Johnson?
Romo’s our guy so we all need to Deal With It.
by Prime-Time on Dec 30, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well response indeed
It is refreshing to see a response that does not consist of attacks.
Firstly, I’m not saying that we should get Cassel. I’m just pointing out how well he’s done, especially in terms of avoiding mistakes.
In terms of avoiding sacks, I cannot speak of what didn’t happen and what I can’t back up through the numbers. I wonder how many sacks Cassel has avoided. I wonder how many sacks Brady has avoided by his quick decision making skills. Almost every QB has a way of avoiding a sack.
In addition, Romo has played in three less games but was sacked 27 less times. Would he be sacked 27 times in three games?
Romo broke his pinky in week six and came back in week 11. By week 12, his pinky was OK. In addition, he hurt his back in week 15. He was good enough to start in those games, and I’m not making any excuses.
Eli has also played and won against some tough times we’ve lost against, such as the Ravens and Steelers. He also played well against Arizona. If you are to use QB ratings as a metric, Eli has had better ratings than Romo in those games.
We all need to deal with Romo, but we don’t need to be happy about it.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speak for yourself
I’m thrilled we have him and wouldn’t trade him for any player in the league.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 31, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel is the next Scott Mitchell...how ironic that i think he'll end up in Detroit as well....
You guy are lucky we aren’t Lions fans…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
You think the Lions would do that, your crazy.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know the Lions wouldn't
Because that’s how bad Romo stinks.
by ym on Dec 30, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raf,
You say the O-line needs to be rebuilt, but I see a case for better coaching and getting healthy.
I can see the major difference in this team from this year and last has been o-line play. Last year the o-line did a great job at protecting Romo. I know he bought some extra time on his own, but the Garret routes take so long to develop.
Every single o-line player regressed last year. The back ups that were so highly reguarded could not even get on the field. That is too much going on to blame every player.
by elharpo on Dec 30, 2008 10:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not re-built
I do think we need to something at LT. Flo just can’t protect Romo.. The speed rush kills him..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OL is not falling apart
but it’s not a great line. It’s a good line. It’s run blocking is not elite level and it has four guys — Adams,
Gurode, Davis and Colombo, who make a ton of penalties. Adams and Davis are two of the ten most penalized players the last four years.
And what depth do they have? Doug Free? He’s a question mark at best. McQuistan was in this third year. He’s done. If you’re not pushing a starter by year three it’s time to replace you. Proctor is replacement level as well. What dependable backups does this team have? None. Holland is an average player at best, but how do we know he won’t show up in camp at 400 lbs. like he did last year?
This team needs an upgrade. Beyonce should tape a commercial for it.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis get's alot of penalties???
that doesn’t sound right…I would say Kosier makes alot.
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kosier
was out for most of the season.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but when he plays he seems to get alot
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What team
do you follow, if any?
Just curious.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
helloooooo....
Yes I know Kosier was out for most of the season…..but when he has played this and last year he seemed to create alot of penalties.
Forget it…move on guy….
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll do you a favor
and move on.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
josh mcdaniels
would do wonders with the cowboys
he took the pats to 16-0 and cassell to 11-5
he adjusts gameplans well and he works with the strengths of the offense instead of asking brad johnson to run the same stuff romo does
we need someone like that
but i guess we’re gonna wait and see if garrett will have a better year next year
same goes for wade and the entire team
we need a new ST coach and a new OL coach
no more houck i think he’s affected garrett a bit
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 30, 2008 10:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't trust anything coming out of New England
Bill Billicheck’s (puppet)strings don’t run that long.
by elharpo on Dec 30, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wish we were playing Oakland, I would have been there..
2009- Home and Away
Dallas Cowboys
Home: N.Y. Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Carolina, Seattle, Oakland, San Diego
Away: N.Y. Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Denver, Kansas City
link
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 10:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Another tough schedule
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yea
look like we’re playing the afc west
the only ‘gimme games’ are oakland, kansas city
all the other games will be tough or maybe not depends on how next year’s teams end up
should be interesting
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 30, 2008 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you can't determine how tough a schedule is
this early. Teams you think are tough, may not be next season and visa versa.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats what i ws saying
that right now it looks like the only easy games are oak and kc
but u never know they could turn into ‘titans’ or ‘panthers’ next year
and other teams good be ‘packers’ next year
so it all depends on how next year’s teams end up
we’ll see
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 30, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Newman/Bradie speaks
Newman:
"It is like the problem when you had the anonymous player saying all that stuff," he said. "They are a coward, you know, and that kind of stuff ruined this season."
Let that sink in: A bigtime Cowboy called another bigtime Cowboy, and Witten specifically — if locker room rumblings about the identity of "the snitch" are to be believed — a coward.
Yes, Coach Cupcake began his attempt at being a butt-chewing disciplinarian by failing to address his players in a post-season meeting, a first in a long time at Valley Ranch.
Nor did Bradie seem particularly pleased with this lack of communication from Coach Cupcake.
"Of course. Who wouldn’t?" Bradie said, when asked if Cowboy players wanted to hear from Wade. "I don’t want to just end this thing and be in the dark. I’m finding out information from you guys. That’s not my decision either. That’s just how it is."
And how it will continue to be.
The Cowboys are divided and I just do not have faith in Coach Cupcake to change into the kind of guy who can fix them.
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 10:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Garbage
That’s such garbage.
This is what comes of a 24hr news cycle for SPORTS. The players (employees) will be addressed by the coaches (mgmt, their bosses) when the time is right.
Bradie James is far, far, far too close to being a diva for my tastes. Make a tackle, you faerie, then demand the spotlight.
Newman’s right about Witten, though. But he undercuts himself when he voices that opinion to the media and not privately up in Witten’s grill. So, he too is part of the problem. Cut ‘em all. Terence “Was that the Ball that Hit Me in the Back of My Helmet?” Newman has an awful lot to say for somebody who looks like a fool 50% of the time when he’s on the field, especially since he’s spent 50% of his career with his feet up on Sundays watching other people play.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It can't be garbage, they're on a first name basis
I love when the msm refer to players by their first name, just to let us know how close they are.
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 30, 2008 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Wade looks like a stooge
but he and especially Garrett looked awfully smart one year ago at this time.
Now, let’s remember:
Who was the coach on the hottest seat at this time two years ago? One Tom Coughlin. He’s probably the most secure HC in football now.
And who was on top of the “most likely to be fired” list last year? John Fox. All the rumors were that Bill Cowher was back in N.C. with his family and was just waiting for that job to open up.
Today, John Fox isn’t going anywhere.
Pressure can focus the mind. Not always, but it definitely can.
As for the Coach Cupcake stuff, until these rippers in the Metroplex offer an alternative to Wade, a credible one, they’re nothing but monkeys flinging poo.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 11:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
haha
poo.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Dec 30, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Media
is now PFM = Poo-Flinging Monkeys.
As the Raf has spoken, so shall it be.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Raf....watching JJT on BSPN today with Barbir Carpenter was a joke...BOTH should be out of a job....
Wade tried the “Mr Nice Guy” approach….Hopefully he runs the team into the ground come training camp….forget Oxnard……Let’s have training camp at Valley Ranch full pads, twice a day, all the way through camp…….seperate the winners from the losers real quick…….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And have half our starting line up out with injuries before the season even starts
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was laughed at by Raf....
…..when I suggested JJ shouldn’t sign Flo to that big money deal, because he was on the wrong side of 30 and clearly playing for the contract.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cash
They probably would not have if they had an alternative, but what choice did they have? We all saw what Torrin Tucker at LT did.
Until they draft another two quality OL, Flo is it. No questions asked.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have an idea for a blog
I just listened to Jim Rome’s holiday replacement today, one Andrew Siciliano, go on an extended tirade on how Terrell Owens is at fault for the credit crisis, the recession, oil prices, unrest on the Gaza strip, Garrett’s playcalling and the demolition of the Cowboys franchise. I’m not sure how to order these in importance.
One particularly galling riff had to do with replying to a caller who claimed (and i paraphrase) that if you watch tape, er… replays, you can see TO open on plays designed for Witten. And, if you believe that TO is a problem in the clubhouse, you must be soft-minded, because you have no evidence of this, you don’t know him, you don’t know his team mates or the coaches and nothing substantive about this has ever been reported. And Siciliano’s reply is that the caller is soft-minded to believe that TO isn’t and won’t blow up the team, and cites SF and Philly to prove his point. He states that he HAS watched game tapes – a lie – and sees Owens not beating double teams and loafing and slow and dropping balls.
So, Siciliano is just talking out of his rear. He’s building off the impressions and false-hoods developed by his own industry. It’s reflexive style of rumor mongering that cannot be refuted, because it’s all opinions with nearly no facts to support. He’s being a gossip. Which is fine, but, in this instance, I honestly believe that this hyper-focused gaze on the Cowboys has become something real in how the team operates. It goes to fuel the Star System that hampers team chemistry, and it goes to feed egos and develop rivalries. It distances team mates from each other and from coaches and from management. Perhaps not a lot, perhaps only by a few mere degrees, but I do believe it has a deleterious effect.
So… here’s my idea. A blog about the personal life of sportscasters. Radio, Print, TV. All of them. They have made themselves the central point of many stories, and they are beyond a doubt celebrities in this genre of entertainment. They are very fair game.
If Chris Carter was brought to task by his superiors about the shooting TO comment, the public has a right to know. What did his superiors think? What does Chris have to say? What do his team mates on the set think about his comments? Is it ruining team cohesion? Will there be a law suit? Has he shot anyone else? Is this a pattern of behavior? Can he be trusted to ruin this team like he did in Phily and for a while in Minnesota? Is he back on the sauce? Is he still and always will be a drug user and alcoholic? Does his alcoholism cloud his day to day decisions? Is he drunk now?
good times.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Joey2zs,
There’s one problem with that. The players, flawed as they are, and they have many, nonetheless have talent.
I’ve been in big rooms with large groups of the sporting press. You won’t find a more ill-dressed, ill-groomed, out of shape, UNINTERESTING group of people.
Nobody would read it. I actually like Jim Rome, in small doses, but that guy will never live down calling Jim Everett “Chrissie” and then hiding in abject terror under the table the second Everett got up to see if Rome would put some skin behind his hot air.
I doubt Jim’s behavior would be atypical, thought I must say, some charity would have made A TON of money back in ’96 if a Troy vs. Skip cage match could have been organized and put on pay-per-view. I would have paid any asking price to watch that.
by Rafael Vela on Dec 30, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice write up Joey........Chris Carter deserves a beat down...he's become the worst Cowboy hater out there..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Dec 30, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
terry...
i cannot figure out what your love affair is with Romo…
He’s done NOTHING for you guys… however, we tend to love the guy!
side note:
December 28, 1996 – Dallas’ last playoff win
February 10, 1997 – Mario Kart for Nintendo 64 is released
by 700 Level on Dec 30, 2008 11:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
After Sitting
Through Huchinson, Carter, Vinny, BLEDSOE, etc. and a good guy comes a long, a guy who can step in and be a franchise QB, what isn’t to like about him?
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Turnovers
and a chronic case of the December yips.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing??
2 trips to the playoffs in 3 years isn’t nothing bozo
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
700 Level
Referring to your “Side note”
Playoff wins don’t mean much if your team doesn’t take home the HARDWARE!
Question:
How does it feel to root for a team that has NEVER won a Super Bowl (emphasis on the "Never")???
You could take the number of Super Bowls Philly has won and times it by 1 Billion and it would still be 5 less than the Cowboys.
Don’t throw out your 2004 NFC Championship T-Shirt cause you’re never gonna have one that says Super Bowl!!!!!! Face it, Philly will always be the Weak Linc in the East :)
Good Day,
by Prime-Time on Dec 30, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey prime time
Thats what we always hear. It’s like the end all for all arguments… but here’s the deal. You cant tell me that 1994 seems like yesterday.
I mean yeah, I’d love to have 5 rings. Dont get me wrong. BUT! 13 years without a playoff victory? Man cowboy fans graduating from High school havent seen their team win a playoff game since Kindergarten.
And i’m not throwing salt on the wound, but the last few years have to have been particularly brutal on you guys. In 06 and 07 the cowboys were IMO easily the best team in the NFC
And Terry i dont care what you say, Romo is a choker. There’s not a rebuttal for that argument
If you can't sell out a playoff game, should you lose the right to have a home game?
by 700 Level on Jan 2, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes there is...you're wrong!
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 2, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
then give one
If you can't sell out a playoff game, should you lose the right to have a home game?
by 700 Level on Jan 3, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait to see the Vikes beat your Iggles like a rented mule! I plan to Tivo this debacle
and watch it on rainy days!
Wharter
by Wharter on Dec 30, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont bet on it
But one things for certain.
It definitly wont be a 44-6 Shalacking!
If you can't sell out a playoff game, should you lose the right to have a home game?
by 700 Level on Jan 2, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we should have gone with McQ at LT. Anyway,
Its typical kick the cowboys while they’re down stuff from the PFM as oskieoskie names them. As usual, the biggest goat is TO.
But I might just have to side with newman on this one. witten going public with that stuff was the single dumbest move of the year. that was just weak, and I love that guy so it pains me to no end to say it, but man that was flat out stupid.
by THEjarhead on Dec 30, 2008 11:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You don't have....
…to go with McQ at LT. There are other options. The point is the Cowboys are tied to slow fat stupid slob at LT that is way past his prime. So instead of working on his replacement we are going to continue to take multiple penalties every game.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot overpaid
I would say it’s slow fat stupid overpaid slob at LT
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 30, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Leonard Davis or Colombo ....
could suffice until we find the permanent replacement. You don’t give a guy a 40mil contract just because he’s the best LT you have. I guess you are ready to give Spears a fat new contract since he’s the best LDE we’ve got. Sound strategy.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Flozel was not the main problem on the offensive line this year
The huge weakness in the offensive line is the backup lineman were worse then the backup QB. Prior to a late trade none of the backups can play in the NFL. None of them. I can see how a team misses on a lineman or two; and how coaching changes could mess up a guy, but Dallas lacked a single backup lineman who can even play a game or two.
Flozel provided his usual 10 false starts this season and has never been as dominate in run blocking as his frame indicates he should be; but other then the games he played hurt he handled his man pretty well in pass coverage. When healthy he handles the top pass rushers very well. Better then 75% of the starting LOT in the league. His 2007 pro-bowl was legitimate and he has had multiple years where he held his man to two sacks or less. The Flozel signing was a good short term move. He played well when healthy. The risk in the contract is continued injuries in the next few seasons. Years five and six of this contract are inflated and can be voided with minimal CAP impact, assuming thier is a CAP.
When he is healthy, which is most of the time, teams move their best rusher to give them a chance to try and go around someone else. Colombo has been solid, but he is not as good a pass protection as Flozel. It was very telling that Flozel was the best option the team had at LOT even when he had a bad shoulder and injured hand. You do not see Dallas covering Flozel with a TE when they face a top pass rusher. Most teams have to protect their LOT when they face the better pass blind side pass rushers. Dallas consistenly lets Flozel take on the best one on one and he wins that matchup a high percentage of the time.
This year pass protection problems centered around this teams inability to pick up inside blitzes and stunts. The cause of this problem was the LG inability to hold up at the point of attack impacted the whole unit. This changed the pass protection responsibility of every one on the line. With the mid-season changes to the pass blocking assignments, Georde and Davis contributed to the breakdown in pass coverage by making a number of mental mistakes.
The team needs a healthy Koiser and at least two new lineman. It needs a quality backup at Tackle. At least one who can play OT well enough to cover for either tackle without requiring TE help on a regular basis. They need at least two backup lineman who can fill any of the three inside positions well enough that the rest of the line does not have to adjust to overcome their physical limitations.
by Trey, on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with most of this....
….but it’s still time for Flo to go. He’s an undisciplined lout that needs to be on the couch on Sundays. His offside penalties alwasy come at the most crucial of times and I’m sick of it.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 31, 2008 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Flo has no replacement
You’re kidding yourself if you think Free would do any better.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 31, 2008 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He couldn't be....
….much worse. And how can you be so sure Free wouldn’t be better? Have you seen him play? Other teams are able to put young LT in and perform well with them. There is no way to know the unknown without giving it a look see.
Flo isn’t in the top third of LT in the game. A short list of whose better:
Joe Thomas
Chad Clifton
Jared Gaither
Walter Jones
Jason Peters
Michael Roos
Chris Samuels
Duane Brown
Ryan Clady
Jordan Gross
And I just didn’t feel like adding more, but there are more LT that had better season.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 31, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he was a viable replacement
Jerry wouldn’t have locked up Flo to a long term deal last off season. Clearly the coaches told him Free isn’t ready.
Flo isn’t eilte anymore but he’s better than you think he is.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 31, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry locked him up...
….because he’s a know nothing douche that hasn’t a clue as to how to GM an NFL team.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 31, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 1, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Move Dat
Nguyen up to coach linebackers.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So who takes over their positions? Did you see anything from the backups that lead you to believe they could do it?
I’d at least consider re-signing spears though a LDE in the 3/4 does not command the same contract as starting LTs, and 40mil was not guaranteed to adams BTW.
You would not have gotten a starting quality LT in the NFL for less money, unless you drafted Oline better in the last 5 years, but that is another post.
by THEjarhead on Dec 30, 2008 5:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ahh Trey,
stop trying to make sense. this is the time of year for bitter anger to gush forth.
by THEjarhead on Dec 30, 2008 6:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's also...
…the time of year that homers gush forth with excuses as to why a team with so much talent didn’t make the playoffs. (Silly season)
by Cash_BSR on Dec 31, 2008 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
best options.
If I am Denver I hire spags.. Let him bring in a OC, the offense isn’t a problem. They have the pieces in place and I pretty sure they are top 5 in the league in scoring. If spags can scheme it up and make them a middle of the road D they win 10 games.
If I am Mike Shannan I want the Cleveland Job. Good line in place, QB, WR, and TE all already there..
Both of those places have major upside.. I wouldn’t want the Jets job, unless I was guaranteed Matt Cassel.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 31, 2008 10:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
easy on the matt Cassel hype
Why would the Jets want him. I would be very careful of giving a big contract for a one years player that has one good year in the New England system….
by Deke on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fa sho..
Have to do some evaluation; I agree throwing Moss has made a lot of QB’s look good. Tom Brady wasn’t all-world until Moss got there; he was good, but not 50 TD good. I will admit, I like his decision making and the ability to keep the chains moving with his feet. I admit NYJ don’t have a WR as good as Welker or Moss.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 31, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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