Dallas Cowboys 2009 opponents
According the team website, the Cowboys opponents in 2009 line up this way.
We'll play the NFC South and AFC West. Also, because we came in third in our division, we'll match-up with the third-place teams in the NFC North and NFC West. Those teams are Green Bay and Seattle.
So our opponents for 2009 shake out like this:
Home - Washington, Philadelphia, New York, Atlanta, Carolina, Seattle, Oakland and San Diego.
Away - Washington, Philadelphia, New York, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Kansas City and Green Bay.
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Might as well start the record predictions
6-10
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 11:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Screw it
I say they’re the first team to go 0-17 … don’t ask me how. It will just happen.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Dec 30, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
16-0 would be adequate
lol just kidding
maybe 11-5 if we’re lucky
let’s see how everything turns out
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 30, 2008 11:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where do you see 7?
I agree that the implosion continues, but I see more like:
5-11
Wonder if Wade returns?
by ScarletO on Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fell on our face
and got 9, Why worse is my question?
Wade and JG will have another year with these players, we should see some improvement.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for changing the topic but
I am getting tired of everyone taking free shots at the Cowboys.
You know what would be nice Jerry Jones going on TV and standing up for his team and players. Call out a few people in the media. Guess what happens they leave you alone.
You have Chris Carter yapping all his B$ about TO and the Cowboys.
Chris Collingsworth who never ever won a thing in his life all talking B$ about the Cowboys.
You know what Jerry get on TV and defend your team/players/coaches whether they deserve it or not. Leadership starts at the top. Defend your TEAM!!!!!!!!
PS: No one may want to hear this but you have a leader in a guy who was injured this year and got ridiculed every game the last few years . Roy Williams the safety.
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They deserve.....
…….every bit of it. The Cowboys were colossal failures this year and deserve to be dressed down every time a critic has the chance to do it. To go up to Philly and play like there is nothing on the table makes the whole team look like a big collection of over-paid and arrogant losers. And yes that means Romo too.
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at some point the owner needs
to stand up for his team.
When the media picks on one single player every time and that player has done nothing wrong stand up for him.
Enough is enough
Maybe Jerry is really smart and he hopes all the media hype drives wade away.
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there is serious problems in the locker room
it’s not just one player, the media isn’t making this stuff. Jerry has his head in the sand most of the time when it comes to what’s going on with his team…he’s just a homer fan that just refuses to see the writing on the wall
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is...........
……..there is not much defense for them.
by John Boy on Dec 30, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
that’s a 6-10 record. This Cowboys team needs to re-tool, not re-load. I’m all for trading James, Newman, MBIII and stockpiling quality young bruisers up front on both lines and going young everywhere else.
Find Romo’s replacement, tell HBO to go to hell, get a SS and ILBs and write off 2009. Also, I suppose if the team is going to dismantle to be built back healthily, TO needs to go because they won’t be contenders in the near term, and he should be on a team that’s a contender. It’s a shame that RWII is a loafing schmuck who whines better than he runs routes, because he’s going to be a Cowboy for a very long time.
Underpaid, overachieving no-names is the answer, not 50 famous divas.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 12:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is perhaps the MOST ridiculous post I've ever read on BTB
I’ve defended Wade and the players all year, always wanting to give them all a chance to work things out. Well, the final tally is in, and the results are obviously not satisfactory… So the question becomes: Who to blame? When you look at the players on this team, I think there is a reason why so many people picked us to be SB contenders. This team is stacked on both sides of the ball. And it is because of this that I think the idea of re-tooling is totally ridiculous. Anyone that wants to ignore the talent of Romo, Barber, James, etc. has their head in the sand. It’s also why I’ve finally jumped off the Wade bandwagon.
If there is a place to square the blame here, it seems clear to me that the shoulders of the head coach is where it belongs. While the defense improved through the year and the offense struggled without Kosier, ultimately it was the team’s heart that seemed to keep us from finishing the job. There was no sense of “must have”
When you look at top coaches, the two things that stand out are, first: their ability to coach the details – whether it is good tackling technique, proper pass route running, or avoiding penalties, guys like Cowher just seem to get it done… the second thing is coaching heart and motivation. Jimmy Johnson was the king of this, but all good coaches find a way to get the most of their players. Wade’s philosophy of creating leadership amongst the players works to a point, but ultimately he needs to be the one to get them over the hilltop.
And he failed.
If you want to make changes, start with the head coach.
If Jerry decides to keep Wade for another season, I’ll accept it… this team did seem to be on the brink of greatness. Perhaps one more year will do the trick.
But I place the blame for 2008 on Wade Phillips.
Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith ... and now BOTH Marion Barber and Felix Jones
by DalaiLuke on Dec 30, 2008 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which one of .....
Tony Romo’s interceptions is Phillips fault? Which one of Adams off sides penalties is Phillips fault?
by Cash_BSR on Dec 30, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
at some point isnt a coach responsible for creating an environment that fosters ball control and penalty free play?
if the team was first in the league in penalties does the coach share in the blame?
by 325424 on Dec 30, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Same
coach environment when they were winning.
Every member of the team, top to bottom, needs to own up to his mistakes. Wade has his flaws, but one of them is not throwing interceptions.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just can't put it all on Wade
What ruined the season were injuries to the OL, secondary, running backs, and QB. Early in the season the OL was fine and Romo stayed upright. They scored a lot of points, even though the defense was giving up a bunch due to a banged up secondary (Newman hurt) and rookies playing in the secondary that the coaching staff didn’t trust enough to play man-on-man. Because of no man-on-man play, they couldn’t be aggressive up front and played a bunch of soft zone crap and gave up yards and points. Then the OL started getting dinged – Koiser out, Flozell hurt his shoulder and foot (though he played, he was terrible), Proctor couldn’t replace Koiser worth a dime, Columbo was a little dinged and didn’t play up to his standards – although he was the most consistent all year long by far.
The soft defense and poor line play led to the Redskins loss, the Cardinals loss and the blowout by the Rams. Then Romo was hurt, the OL was still hurt, and Pacman was suspended. By the time Wade trusted the secondary enough to get aggressive, they had lost 4 games and their margin of error was too slim for comfort. By the time Romo came back and the defense was good, Romo had Roy E. Williams, who didn’t know the playbook and had a hurt foot, and with whom he had no timing. Meantime, Miles Austin was hurt, Witten was banged up, Felix Jones was on IR, Barber was hurt, Owens couldn’t beat all the double teams, and the OL still sucked. Martellus Bennett was okay, but still a rookie who they spoon fed the entire season. All of the injuries on offense just killed any timing, killed a bunch of the explosiveness, and the OL play made nearly every play an adventure. Then, on top of all of that, that disjointed offense was force to play 4 of the top 5 defenses in the league during the month of December. They never had Sam Hurd, who went on IR before the season started. And though not a game changer, Hurd made several big plays last year and certainly could have helped this season.
I heard (and I don’t have a link) before the season that a certain Vegas odds maker predicted the Cowboys to go 8-8 this year for one reason: injuries. This guy was saying that the Cowboys had been so lucky the last few years on the injury front that statistically, the injury bug would hit them this year – that it ALWAYS catches up with teams. The guy was right. We got killed this year.
So there is my rant. I don’t buy that internal strife was the reason this team played poorly. I think it was injures and playing A LOT of rookies early. But playing the rookies will help us down the road. So it ain’t all bad. Yes, the coaching staff can do better and they need to make some changes, yes they need to return to fundamental football and drill those fundamentals all season long, but I REALLY believe that had we not had ALL of those injuries, we’d be sitting here complaining about having to wait during the bye week to watch the Cowboys play again and our coaching staff would still be geniuses.
by SteveCop on Dec 31, 2008 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just for the record, I agree with this post...
As I have said in other threads, Fox at Carolina looked like an idiot last year … because of injuries. Amazing what a genius he suddenly became… AGAIN!
Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith ... and now BOTH Marion Barber and Felix Jones
by DalaiLuke on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a ridiculous post because you don't like to hear the truth.
The team’s lack of discipline, leadership, and will to win has been evident for 2 yrs. I have never liked Wade as a coach (I’m sure he’s a great guy to have a beer and a plate of nachos with) but this group of players also shares a lot of blame.
I argued on the old blog 2 years ago the team lacked leadership and disciplined and was shouted down that none of that matter…..these guys are professionals. You were wrong then and you’re wrong now. Insert 2-3 Charles Haley, Michael Irvin, Troy Aikmen, Emmitt Smith types on this team who demand effort and discipline from their teamates and the whole thing turns around immediately. We’ve heard nothing but excuses for people on the team who should be leaders. Romo needs to be a leader and can’t do it acting like he’s 15. TO needs to be a leader but can’t do it when he can’t keep his mouth shut. Newman needs to be a leader. Dware needs to lead (at least he plays consistently well). My hat is off to Derek Anderson for picking a fight with that fat overpaid slob Flozell (another guy everybody makes excuses for).
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You advocate getting rid of Romo, MBIII, James and Newman...
And then expect people just to say “yea, good idea!” ???
Look, I am just as pissed at all of these guys as you are. They laid an egg in the biggest game of the year. But saying it’s time to re-tool is way off base. These players are the core of a group that can win multiple SBs. This isn’t the time to re-load, it’s time to get a coach that can get the most from this talent. Flozell may need a kick in the ass, but do you really want to see a Rookie there next year?
Hard work, attention to detail and pure fired-up Jimmy-style cockiness/motivation however you want to call HEART is lacking on this team. Ultimately, that is the coach’s responsibility.
Calling for a dismantling of the core players is just silly.
Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith ... and now BOTH Marion Barber and Felix Jones
by DalaiLuke on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not much different from this year.
MIght even be just a little bit harder playing every team from the NFC South.
by Cosby Sweater on Dec 30, 2008 12:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Offseason
Hasn’t even started and you guys are acting like we’re already dead. God, you don’t know who’s signing with who, or who is getting drafted where, who will get hurt on what team, and who will get benched. How many of you saw the Dolphins going 11-5 and making the playoffs when they went 1-15 the year before. I think some people need a break from this blog and forget about the Cowboys for a while.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Record.
Home – Washington-W, Philadelphia-W, New York-L, Atlanta-W, Carolina-L, Seattle-W, Oakland-W and San Diego-W.
Away – Washington-W, Philadelphia-L, New York-W, New Orleans-L, Tampa Bay-W, Denver-W, Kansas City-W and Green Bay-W
12-4, I said.. I bet we play in Denver and GB in late november and december..
If we retain Jason Garrett, he will fix the problems on O.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 12:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like your faith brother
Refreshing.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe we will be much better
Wade will have the D more prepared, and Jason G. will learn from his mistakes..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta be kidding me
we will be lucky to break even next year…8-8 is a conservative projection. What leads you to believe we will beat New York on the road?
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It called
being healthy.
A different team and a different outcome if we are healthy.
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct to a certain extent
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you can't judge a schedule this early
because some teams that look tough now, will not look so good next season and visa versa.
That being said, this team will win 9-10 games and it could be higher if the team chemistry problem is addressed and fixed.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I said the same thing above Terry
And agree with you 100%
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to be more upbeat...
But we all know what happened to the lofty expectations this year….i rather be surprised by keeping my expectations lower
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing wrong with that.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So do that
And don’t be negative here, if Romo didn’t get injured we would have been an 11 win team.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe if Romo was more protective of the football
Dallas would of won 11 games. The injury is an excuse
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo's turnovers only lost us one game
The reason we lost the 6 others had much more to do with the 52 other players failing at their jobs.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can count 3 that we lost because of his turnovers..
PIT, BAL and PHI
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We Lost
Three while he was out we could have won, and the Raven game was a team lose.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake
We would have won two, the Giants were asking for us to beat them but Johnson just kept turning the ball over.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We couldn't beat the pathetic Rams
and the defense flat out quit in that game…. Isn’t tuning the ball over Romo’s problem too….Dallas was a created jerry jones hollywood mirage that made the same mistakes last year as they did this year, and Mr, GM Jerry is going to bring the same coaching staff back, and mr cupcake, marshmellow, philsbury doughboy or michelin man is going to change. Change to what, a tougher coach, if he gets tough, the players will just laugh at him…there is clearly a problem in the locker room and this team has no accountability, no guts and no heart, how will that change when the offensive roster is pretty much set and the defense is pretty much set except two or three spots….The offense has regressed to the tune of scoring 12 points less a game from last year..The problem starts at the top, the owner is soft, the coach is soft, the practices are soft, the players are soft, and this offense doesn’t play as a unit and spends most of their time pointing fingers at one another or the scheme or the coaches.
The Quarterback doesn’t protect the ball, continues to make rookie mistakes and gives stupid excuses for throwing forty yard INT’s and equates it pretty much as a punt.. who punts on second down Romo an then I have to listen romo give the oh well, it’s just a game, oh well, we’ll try to win next year in press conferences. That’s a leader!!!!!!! please!!!
Atleast the defense at times plays as a unit when mr Fix it decided to call the defense, since that’s why he was brought here in the first place. Good to see wade take a year and a half to figure that out. Ofcource this defense never seems to come up with that big stop when needed. But what will the changes be when there isn’t the changes needed at the top…..
The change that I know is a guarantee everytime, when the ring master,Jerry Jones run the show, the three ring circus tent is full of clowns….
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a different Cowboy team
They play different with Romo and respond different to Romo. About Jerry I agree 100% with you. He’s to stubborn and needs to get someone who can handle the job to do it.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If a team responds different because of one player
on the 53 man roster, then there is a serious problem with the team..
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's just the offense
Not the defense, and yes it is a problem…this whole team is the problem and we need a guy to come in and straighten this out.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Deke
I see where your coming from, but what do you want to do. Do you honest think Romo is a bad QB? He can’t get it done. Where you this quick to judge Peyton Manning, or because he was number one overall you just assumed? But with Jerry I agree 100% with you, he can’t be the GM, he tries to make a story before he makes a smart football choice.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not true
we lost the Balt game because of the defense and the Philly game would have been lost no matter how well Romo played.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Balt game is equally on the D and on Romo.
If Romo didn’t crap the bed for the first 55 minutes, the D wouldn’t have had to make those stops at the end.
by Phildo on Dec 30, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I'm sure that one INT is crapping the bed
maybe if he wasn’t running for his life the entire game he would have been able to do something. Hard to complete passes with a defender constantly in your grill.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It took them 3 quarters to figure out a defense..
That has to fall on the coaches at least somewhat
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're right guys
Romo is the greatest QB of the league. Probably ever. You can stop posting now. We all agree with you.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say that did I?
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just because we don't throw him under the bus
and place all the blame on him doesn’t mean we think he is flawed.
Every player is flawed…the key is getting better which is what Romo will do. If you can’t recognize his talent and abilities, thats not our fault.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Buddy
you’re as wrong as possible. Romo himself lost many games for the Cowboys this year due to his reckless play. He’s a turnover machine who makes horrid decisions routinely.
That you don’t see that, it’s not my fault.
I think he’ll be an OK pro QB for a long time, but today, he’s a liability and not an asset. He’s also not a leader. He’s a 29 year old veteran who plays like a rookie.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats simply not true at all
Romo was only responsible for one loss this year and thats the Steelers game, the other losses are mainly attributable to the rest of his teammates.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
he’s probably the best ever, except, this year he was 28th in the league this year in INT ratio. 3.1% of his passes get picked. Two rookies’ numbers are much better.
He’s tied for 3rd in the NFC in fumbles and 2nd in fumbles lost.
He’s 5-8 in December and has never played well in a big game.
If you’re content with a guy who (in your opinion) just doesn’t lose games, then trade Romo for Kyle Orton or Kerry Collins and some picks. How could you argue that?
I want a QB who LEADS his team and MANUFACTURES WINS. If you don’t understand that, then there’s nothing I can say to explain it to you.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and if you don't understand that Romo
was mainly responsible for this team making the playoffs in 2006 and 2007 then there’s nothing i can say to explain that to you.
Romo’s record over 2.5 years is 27-13, thats a winning % of 67%…thats pretty good for a young qb.
Regarding his INT%, its the lowest of his career and has improved each year.
Romo is this team’s best player whether you want to believe that or not.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
so then you agree he’s getting worse. That doesn’t alarm you?
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No i think he's improved each year
he’s played. Considering all the injuries, bad coaching, poor OL play, lack of route running by receivers, I’d say he performed pretty good considering.
No way is he getting worse. Is he playing more reckless? Yes, but thats only because he feels he needs to be superman with the rest of the team tanking.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed..he has regressed....
Joey….forget it man….you can’t argue with Terry about Romo because he can do no wrong. Romo could throw 5 INTs and fumble the ball 5 times in a game and Terry will spin it that it wasn’t his fault..lol
Romo has regressed. His 14 INT’s and 7 fumbles in 13 games is alarming. He has to improve or we go NO WHERE….
I’m all for bringing in someone to push him, because right now there is knowbody. If he continues on this path the next logically step would be to replace him or trade him. I think after 4 seasons, 7 in the NFL we would know if he is able achieve the next level.
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
he is not in the same league as ware.
its ware’s team.
by 325424 on Dec 30, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terry, generally I agree with you...
But the only reason Romo would be considered better than Ware is because of the position he plays. Ware is a freakin’ monster and top 5 best defender in the league. It’s not “his team” but he is the best player on it…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Dec 30, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's Romo's team
But the offense responds different. He isn’t the leader though…we don’t have a leader
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That isnt on Romo
That is on Garrett
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re going to blame everyone else when he plays badly, you have to give him credit when he plays well.
You always throw around his QB rating as if he’s God, yet you haven’t mentioned how great it was in this game, or how terrible it was for the first 3 quarters against the Ravens.
He played like crap for most of the game, the defense played like crap for 2 drives, they’re both equally to blame.
by Phildo on Dec 30, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pick your posion Terry
Romo lost the game in the first half and the defense lost the game in the last quarter of the game. Maybe if Romo didn’t throw those two blunder INT’s we would’nt have been in that situation….
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First INT didn't hurt us
and second INT cost us 3 points, I seriously doubt that FG lost us the game.
Romo pulls this game out in the 4th if the defense doesn’t choke.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
turning the ball is a big problem, period
both stop drives, time of possesion and possible points for us…..
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But in this game
It didn’t. Steeler game yes, Raven game no.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Deke give me a break
Cowboys weren’t going to get points on any of those drives INT or no INT.
Fact is the majority of Romo’s INTs are usually early in games that don’t affect us. Its the INTs late in games that are costly, ie Steelers game.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you know that how
funny, Baltimore got three points off of Tony’s bonehead throw just before the half…. a field goal that gave Baltimore the lead for which they never looked back…
Yes, give me a break from your skewed logic
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, like that FG was the real difference
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, a rookie headcoach, a rookie Quarterback
a big game on the road taking the led into halftime off of a INT and it isn’t a real big deal……WOW, OK!!!!( heavy sarcasm implied)
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a BIG difference
It put us two scores behind instead of one while we were trying to battle back into the game. That INT before half was stupid. He didn’t need to do it. He should have known better and he hurt his team big time with it.
The guy just doesn’t learn from his mistakes.
by Philosopher on Dec 30, 2008 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But the Int's didn't cost only 3 points.
We got 0 off those drives so they cost us a possible 17 points
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats pure speculation
and highly unlikely
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no its not if we had of scored touchdown on both drives
we would have scored 14 instead of having 3 scored against us. Therefore the Ints cost us a possible 17 points
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like I said
pure speculation.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No its a fact if I had of said that it would of cost us 17
that would be speculation. But I only said a possible 17 points
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
since we were deep in our own territory
getting points on those drives were highly unlikely
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We were near the halfway line and had a second and two on the first pick
And besides shouldn’t you have faith in your boy to be able to drive for a score even if he starts in his own half?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wait
arent you the guy who says the late season wins stat is dumb b/c all games count the same?
now are you saying all wins/losses are the same regardless of timing but INT’s early in games dont matter?
turnovers are the most closely correlated stat to wins by a long shot, turning the ball over leads to losses. plus / minus ratio is not just a late game stat
by 325424 on Dec 30, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when you turn the ball over
in a game is very important because a team can make up for those turnovers later in the game.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But think of how much of a better position the team would be without the turnovers period.
I love Romo’s ability to make plays and still have confidence in his ability to lead us forward. However, the only thing that I would like to see him improve on is taking care of the ball.
It’s like Grizz said, take the sack every now and then and live to play another day.
It’s tough enough to beat teams in the NFL these days… and it’s even tougher when the team is turning the ball over, committing yards of penalties, and giving up big plays on defense — i.e., beating themselves.
That’s why there needs to be some kind of accountability for those kinds of things. A sort of negative reinforcement for these kinds of mistakes.
And that’s where coaching has to enter in to the equation.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Dec 30, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo probably lost this team 2 or 3 games because of his turnovers....
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
simply not true at all
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That has to be in contention for dumbest comment of the year
by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 30, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its true
turnovers late in games are much worse than turnovers early in games.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
disgree there..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
simply not true at all
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see what your saying
But think about it this way. Romo has a great game, puts up 4 tds and not Ints. The defense gives up a big lead, and we are all ties up 28-28. Offense comes on the field, Romo throws an int, they come back and score a field goal. Game over. Who’s fault is that? Guarantee you would say Romo. But shouldn’t the game be the defense’s fault for putting him in that situation?
by witten82 on Dec 30, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's both the D and Romo's fault in that case
this is a team sport, and your example would be considered a team loss.
in the same manner that Romo shouldn’t turn the ball over, the defense shouldn’t give up big/game-losing plays.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Dec 30, 2008 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats all I was saying
I was hoping the people who always blame Romo would respond to that, but you don’t seem like that type.
by witten82 on Dec 30, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't use Health as an excuse...
This is a team game…Patriots won 11 without Brady and a rookie QB. We need to first and foremost accept we are a mediocre team at best.
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They also
Got to play garbage teams and are a better overall team…they did lose one game last year.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
you can stop posting now. You’ve listed every excuse imagineable. Perhaps the dog ate Romo’s homework as well?
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bro everyone has an opinion
I think you are just as wrong as Terry and them are. You guys are incredibly harsh on Romo, and they think he is great. You aren’t seeing any black and white. No Romo is obviously not the best, but give the guy the offensive line Eli has this year and we win 10 or 11 games and make the playoffs. You can place all the blame on him if you want, but the games he has lost, I can name at least 10 other guys who didn’t show up to play. Its a team sport, sure he has lost some games, but you can pin some other losses on other players and not him.
by witten82 on Dec 30, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
correction
You all are seeing it just black and white, no grey. My bad.
by witten82 on Dec 30, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Romo
But I’ll be the first to admit when he does something wrong. If everyone wants him to go, who do you bring in Cassell? People think just because he played the way he did in New England he’s going to come to Dallas and be the same. It all ways on what system you play. New England’s fits his like Miami’s fits Pennington. I think our system doesn’t fit Romo. That is on Garrett.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bringing in Cassell is just absurd to even talk about
They guy played well in the Pats system. He is just another young unproven quarterback.
by witten82 on Dec 30, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But since he's never actually been to the playoffs
We can just assume he will win playoff games right? hahahah
by witten82 on Dec 30, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Of course of course, he’s the next coming, Dallas should sign him!
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we don't want to do the finances to bring in a legit
FA QB… but the Boys should draft one, Ron Wolf style
by AustonianAggie on Dec 30, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they'll draft a proper back up.
At least i hope.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the bottm line is that no matter what
this team will be competitive for years to come just because of the talent that already exsists.
Now, whether they can take the next step to becoming champions is an entirely different story altogether.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
10 games gets us in.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about
We wait and see what this team looks like when it’s healthy. They either lost or had playing hurt a TON of players this season. More than most.
All this talk of getting rid of MBIII is just asinine. Same with Newman.
Marion played with a separated toe for the entire month of December. Of course his production was doomed to fall off from that. Just think back to the 11/9 Redskins game to get a better idea of how he will produce when healthy.
Personally I can’t wait to see the 3 headed monster that Dallas will have at running back next year with everyone healthy. MB will get back to his overpowering self, Felix Jones looked like the 2nd coming of Marshall Faulk before he went down, (so there are no limits to how much his returned presence will help this offense), and then Choice rounds it all out very nicely. This threesome should rival if not surpass what the Giants have next year.
Then of course the offensive line must be healthy. The loss of Kosier hurt this team more than anyone will admit. The difference in pass perfection in the games in which he played compared to all those games he missed is astonishing, (for the entire month of December Romo was running for his life at the snap of the ball). The whole thing just crumbled without him. In the running game it was Kosier who used to pull out all the time when the Cowboys would run Barber in their version of the counter trey. Without Kosier that play (a very successful one in 2007) was taken out of the play book.
This team needs some depth on the o-line (of the non-proctor variety) and some help on the D-line and Safety. Then of course the coaching staff must start outsmarting there opponents in some capacity.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
by gee-roj on Dec 30, 2008 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Dec 30, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
i mean we went 13-3 in 2007
we have better players now and we went 9-7 because of a huge amount of injuries and because i think in the back of everyone’s minds we all felt that this isnt our year
it doesnt excuse the awful coaching at times but we can still go up
our mistakes can be fixed and we have the talent to contend
i say let’s wait for next year to truly see how well we will be if we can remain healthy and be consistent with the safety positions
also, i would love to just open the season next year with just running the ball constantly switching up on rb’s
romo could only have like 100 yards passing but it will make a huge statement to begin the season if we show our potent running game
then the explosive offense will follow suit with the passing game
Superbowl or Bust?
by MrMinority on Dec 30, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All we have is next year
The only thing that disgust me about this season is how it ended. Reminded me of 1997 when the team lost to a terrible Cincy team and seemed to mail it in. That team had nothing on the line and this team is much more talented. As soon as I get over Sunday, I’ll be excited again. The only team that should really be disappointed is the Pats and I don’t mind seeing them out.
After the first three games, this team never really got in sync. They convincingly won a hard-hitting game with the Giants a couple weeks ago, so all is not lost.
I wonder if Wade and Jerry need to do what Parcells did when here first got there. The first thing he did was get rid of guys that didn’t love to play football.
by illcowboy on Dec 30, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
Three headed monster at RB? What does that even mean? There’s only one football, and Choice and MBIII play the same role.
newsflash, the offensive line next year will NOT be healthy. Point to one team in the NFC east that had its starters throughout the season. Next year it WILL be Gurode or Flo or Davis or Columbo, or maybe Kosier again who go down. Or maybe a few, or maybe all. Take it to the bank.
If trading Newman or MBIII makes the team better, then super. Let’s do it. Ditto Romo, Felix Jones, you, me, whoever. Rookie DeSean Jackson made Terence “Was that the Ball that Hit Me in the Back of My Helmet?” Newman look like he’d never played football before. What about that makes him indespensable? The Giants absorbed Tiki’s retirement and got BETTER with no-name running backs.
Take off your rose colored glasses and assess the situation, fella. You think that because the Cowboys may have had one injury more than average (which I don’t believe), they fell apart in a way that has never, ever happened in franchise history? That’s it?
The team is too name-heavy. Some of those names have to go so there are nearly-as-good starters replacing them along with nearly-as-good back ups who are working their rear ends off for bigger long term contracts.
Stewart and Garrett failed utterly this year.
There needs to be wholesale changes. Not tactics as you believe, but strategy on an enterprise/franchise level needs to be wholly amended.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see..
Well there is indeed only one football but it doesn’t mean that only one back is allowed to carry it all game long, (you must get your ideas from the Jason Garrett’s school of offense). The 3-headed monster phrase is referring to a philosophy of splitting the carries between the three backs, Einstein. You know the way Giants very successfully split carries between their 3 backs now. As I said before, the team does NEED TO AD DEPTH ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE this off-season which would address the issue of O-lineman getting hurt next year, Duh….
So your plan is to get rid of talented players for less talented ones. That will work just awesome I’m sure because all those replacements are just right there waiting to be plucked off of the football tree.
Newman has one bad game and his whole career is shot? Wow, what an astute evaluator of talent you are.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
by gee-roj on Dec 30, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
how do you pay all these new players?
Also, Newman is 30 and will be 31 next year. So yes, his career IS winding down. And he’s, um, had more than one bad game.
Football tree???? I’m talking about the draft and trading and free agency, ala Marc Columbo or Ratliff.
And I don’t know how talented any current Cowboys are. They aren’t in the playoffs, are they?
Tell me about a team in greater turmoil Go ahead. I’m listening. You’re saying a backup center is the answer, a NT, and more screen passes? That quiets all the loudmouths and earns the coach respect? ha!!
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Newman was injured for half the season
He played injured too… not hurt, he played injured
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
he’s 30 and has been injured for most of his career. I don’t get all of your infatuation with him.
He also called out Witten in the media. He’s voiced a lot of opinions in the media, then, he let a rookie make him look like an idiot.
Um… this guy is tradeable. But there’s probably not enough CB depth to let him go. Why are you so in love with an overpaid, ageing, oft-hurt DB who almost never makes a play?
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Prior to the last two seasons Newman has been almost completely injury free
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but like I said when talking about this subject..once a player hits the 30 mark
especially RB’s they start to decline and break down….Newman is heading down that path now at 30. Shawn Alexander is a perfect example of a player that hit a wall when he turned 30. Your starting to see that from LT now also…
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2 totally different positions
RBs take a beating… CBs don’t
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 1, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to do with taking a beating
You get older, you lose speed, you start to break down. Doesn’t matter what position. In the case of CB and RB’s they seem to detoriate quicker after 30. Whether that’s becoming injury prone, losing a step it happens…
by Boyzfan94 on Jan 1, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ask Darryl Green if he lost speed
after he turned 30…hell he was faster than most CBs after he turned 40.
You don’t lose any speed at 30, maybe 35..36 but not any sooner.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 1, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alpha Bits
cereal is great … and for only 2 bucks a box? Unbelievable.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Dec 30, 2008 12:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Does Romo eat them?
If he does they’re great. If not, I won’t touch the stuff.
by illcowboy on Dec 30, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
overall
Home – Washington 8-8 Away – Washington 8-8
Philadelphia 9-6-1 Philadelphia 9-6-1
New York 12-4 New York 12-4
Atlanta 11-5 New Orleans 8-8
Carolina 12-4 Tampa Bay 9-7
Seattle 4-12 Denver 8-8
Oakland 5-11 Kansas City 2-14
San Diego 8-8 Green Bay 6-10
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69-58-1 62-65-1 131-123-1
by cow_fanatic on Dec 30, 2008 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Many of those teams
will be worse next year, while many of them will be better. It’s never the same from one year to the next.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
by gee-roj on Dec 30, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Strength of Schedule
I completely agree that these teams won’t be as good next year/aren’t that good
Not to mention that Tampa’s 9-7 was nothing comparable to our 9-7. Anyone doubt that even the Redskins could have won the NFC north? the WEST?!? The NFC South is better than the North or West, but is nothing like the East. We beat the Bucs with Johnson at QB…that’s a shitty teams if I’ve ever seen one.
The best teams from the list above are : SD (8-8), PHI (9-6-1) and NYG (12-4). Would anyone rather play the Chargers than the Falcons right now?
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cowboys did lose
A LOT of assistants last off season. I do have some concerns that they were not replaced by the same level of quality.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
by gee-roj on Dec 30, 2008 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
10-6
Green Bay’s a tough draw as a 3rd place opponent, though. I bet they win the North next year.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Dec 30, 2008 1:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They lost 7 games by 4 points or less this year so they could have easily won it this year if Rodgers had of been able to finish games
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the D was pretty bad too
Aaron Rodgers is no differnt then almost any other QB in the NFL, there is a learning curve.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm looking at this schedule...
and it doesn’t seem like an easier schedule one bit. shouldn’t we have an easier schedule next year? i mean, we did miss the playoffs. ATL, carolina, denver, N.O. are all going to be hard games. On top of the divisional schedule…… we could go 10-6 or 11-5 with that schedule…but as recent seasons have shown, we can work our magic and push otu a 9-7 clunker…just depends on injuries and our focus….if MB3 stays healthy, montrae holland stays healthy, kosier stays healthy, i really do believe we might’ve made the playoffs…..but then again, i’m so disappointed in the boys right now, i don’t know if there is anything that could’ve been done to avoid this disaster….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Dec 30, 2008 1:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
no TH because nfl schdules are predetermined
Each division rotates playing each other in each conference. The only 2 games that are determined by your record are the 2 out of division games within your conference.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At Denver, Green Bay, and Kansas City
Winnable games, but all tough places to play. I suspect all three teams will be better than this year, too.
by illcowboy on Dec 30, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope we get GB early in the season again
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully TB is in December
Then we can see who actually sucks the worst in December. Both teams faded down the stretch the last couple seasons.
by illcowboy on Dec 30, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I got faith this team will turn it around.
NFC South got a lot of wins playing a very down AFC west this year.
We always seem to play GB and seattle. SEATTLE like EVERY DANG YEAR
Remember the 2nd to last time Bill Cower went 6-10? his contract was up. The Rooney’s decided to re up him despite sinking seasons. The Rooney’s said something like
“He’s a good coach, that doesn’t go away. Even if he had some bad seasons, if he was a good coach once, why wouldn’t he be now again.” I think thats true of the Dallas Coaches
by AustonianAggie on Dec 30, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cowher has a longer track record of success
Bobby Carpenter of OTL this afternoon compared coaches to pitchers that change leagues/divisions. The batters are fooled by you at first and then catch up to you the second year. That’s as good an analogy as any. Now it remains to be seen if the Dallas coaches can compensate for the leagues adjustments and stay ahead of the curve.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 30, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not wait and see what the hell they do first?
My God!? Take a breath. We sound like all the Red Sox fans from all those losing years. Are there problems? Christ yes, and we certainly all suffered from expectations, but dang? We are not in the hell of a Detroit or Kansas City or Oakland. I don’t care what anyone thinks about this team, I thank the sweet lord every day we are not one of those teams.
If we simply fixed the turnover problem and we have a few less key injuries, we probably win 1-2 more games. Are we a Super Bowl team – I don’t think so with our attitude, but attitude can change. They have to believe they can win, not hope. But get real on trading good players, firing everyone and starting over. Screw that. We tried that with Gailey, Campo, etc.
by makeit6 on Dec 30, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Dallas Cowboys get blasted for
going 9-7 and getting blasted by Philly. If Detroit played in FIFA they’d be busted down to the minor leagues. Detroit went 0-16 that same day… but Chris Collinsworth and Carter would still rather talk Dallas. A team at least Carter seems to hate; he just can’t stop talking about the Cowboys though. Awesome, Dallas Cowboys own Chris Carter’s soul. the team he hates is the most interesting to talk about
by AustonianAggie on Dec 30, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How many people think
The outcome of the PHI game would have been different if MB III was 100%?
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I dont think it would have been any different....
BUT… i do wonder if things woulda been different with a healthy Kosier and Romo. Either way, as was pointed out repeatedly during the game, it never seemed like Dallas wanted it more. Even the announcers commented how flat we looked during warmups. PHI had more heart and spirit than us.
by psudoc on Dec 30, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Distractions
Many seem very eager to blame Jerry, Wade and the players themselves for the mindset of these players, but no other team in the league has to deal with media-born rumors to the same degree that Dallas does.
Romo dates Jessica Simpson…we never hear the end of it. What about Brady or Leinart’s relationships. I’ve never heard a thing about what Eli, Campbell or McNabb do off the field. We can’t blame Romo for what he’s doing; we should blame ESPN for not being able to leave him alone.
TO seems to be the type of teammate Michael Jordan was…the media just hates him and is begging to create a story around him. Listen to the questions they ask him and then ask yourself, “is there a smart way to answer this question?”
I didn’t hear anyone ask Jeffrey Laurie if he was going to fire Andy Reid a few days before they played Dallas…Why not? Until Sunday, it appeared Dallas would make the playoffs and the Eagles had no shot.
ESPN and other media outlets have been trying to MAKE news rather than report it and have turned the truth into their bastardized, high-selling version. I don’t blame them entirely. The Cowboys have many fans (one of the most popular teams in the NFL), but the Cowboys are also the most hated team in football (think NFC East-we’re each team’s biggest rival, but we don’t really have a biggest rival). Because we are so hated, people will stop at ESPN or click on a link if they see “Turmoil in Dallas” before they would stop to see “Boring day at the Ranch” or “Fight in Titans Locker room.”
Do you all remember the “Jones questions Barber’s toughness” thing? That was some of the most irresponsible reporting I’ve seen (and I used to live in a communist country). Jones said “The toe is good” never mentions the word “toughness” yet somehow these boneheads get the headline that they want-the headline that sells.
Most of you will say that I am just making excuses…those who are a little more rational will say that professional athletes should not allow themselves to be affected by Werder and Collinsworth, but where’s the control in this experiment? You cannot point to a time where a team was subject to as much scrutiny and was successful (I’m not sure any team has been subject to so much scrutiny-NOT EVEN THE RAIDERS OR LIONS!).
The Cowboys organization as a whole needs to boycott the media. Don’t give interviews, do as few press conferences as the league will allow and refuse to answer any question that the same reporter would not have even considered asking a coach, owner or player on another team.
I agree completely with someone who posted above that Jerry needs to stand up for his team with the media. He needs to just say “We will not acknowledge you until you begin to REPORT THE NEWS AS IT IS and stop trying to STIR UP CONTROVERSY.”
There may be problems in the Cowboys locker room, but there are problems in most locker rooms and the problems in our locker room exist, in part, and have been exacerbated by “reporters”
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 1:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I've posted on this many times before.
This nation is more and more infatuated with TMZ type reporting than actual facts and it’s sad. ESPN is merely reacting to what the public demands, and that happens to be our team. So yes, they do somehow make a big deal out of who the QB is dating, a wide receiver who wants the ball (like that’s a new one) and every little monor altercation/disagreement between two or more players during the season. It not only affects us (because there are a lot of people who believe what they’re reading on those sites) but it affects the players as well, driving them to distraction at some point. They either embrace the insanity or learn to ignore it. My main gripe with Jerry is that he enjoys and promotes all this behaivor.
by Benthere on Dec 30, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone se the NFL Network last night?
They talked about what the Cowboys should do this offseason..
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok..
Terrell Davis said get rid of T.O. he is a cancer and is deterring Romo from maturing
Jim Mora said get rid of Pac and T.O.
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd get rid of T.O, pac-rat and Tank
I’d rather TJ houshmanzedah, atleast he’ll go accross the middle, run good routes and fight for the football
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TO would
go across the middle if we ran him outof the slot.
You think the RHG is going to run anybody but Witten down the middle of the field?
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"championship!"
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Dec 30, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis is on the right track.
Cut TO and Pacman now. Getting rid of Owens would help our lockerroom issues, and help the playcalling.
Part of Garrett’s problem getting into a rhythm playcalling is the need to placate TO’s ego by forcing things to him.
by Realist Larry on Dec 30, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly right on, and it would send a strong message to the rest of the team
no one is untouchable on this team and if you don’ tow the line, you could be next with out a job
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo and JG
Can say what they want, but they force it to TO to pacify him. TO is our Tiki, addition by subtraction. Let Romo lead the team and the huddle. How long are we going to allow TO to run of coaches.. I guarantee JG will not turn down any offer.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know
What goes on in the locker room. How do you know TO is the cancer, if it comes out and he truly is the problem, and someone not some no name player admits it, then yes i would let him go, until then he is still our best receiver.
by joey7289 on Dec 30, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
completely agree
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 30, 2008 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There are
very few people on TV we should listen to about the cowboys.
Steve Young – No, hated the cowboys because he only beat us 1 when it counted
Carter- No hated us since the eagles drafted him as a supplemental and never made the SUperBowl. A cowboy wannabe
Berman- No: A kiss ass Niner fan. Still can’t get over that the cowboys whupped the Niners in the 90’s when he was kissing ricky watters and Young’s ass.
Keyshawn – No TO took his job and Cherbet exposed him for what he really was. Selfish and self serving.
Emmit – No still pissed he got traded to the cardinals
Troy : No afraid everyone would call him a homer.
Jaworski: No . The biggest eagle fan on the air. Still taking Randy white’s/ harvey martin and ed jones shoes out of his ass from after being sacked.
Tom Jackson: Yes: one of the better announcers and open viewpoints.
Ditka: Yes Old school but speaks the truth\
Deion: would love ot say yes but he is a true cowboy homer.
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Emmitt – No still pissed he got traded to the Cardinals
He wasn’t traded… Parcells didn’t want him…. so he went somewhere that he was wanted
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Dec 30, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen brother
except for the Jackson part. Once you cross the line and work for ESPN, your intelligence wilts away. Some quicker than others.
by elharpo on Dec 30, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched Troy
stand up several times for Dallas, but of course not when he is in the Fox booth
by Helene on Dec 30, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries and O-Line
When a team as talented as Dallas misses the playoffs, something has gone wrong.
But wasn’t everyone a little hard on the Cowboys last week (before the Eagles game) when it appeared that they were going to make the playoffs despite such a serious injury streak.
This season, Dallas has been without: starting QB, Starting RB, Backup RB, Starting LG, 3,4,5th WR, Starting CB, other Starting CB, 3rd CB, Both Starting Safeties, Both Backup safeties, somehow the D-Linemen and Linebackers only missed parts of games.
Moreover, many injured players played through injury because of the lack of depth behind them: Jason Witten had an amazing year, but you have to believe he was at least somewhat hindere by the broken ribs, jaw injury, chest contusion, ankle sprain, etc.
Flozell Adams was so injured all year that he would have been sitting on most teams-we just couldn’t afford to put in Pat McQuistan, because he’s terrible.
Cory Proctor was so bad, I would have cut him midway through the Giants game. The thing is, he’s our 3rd string guard. What can you do about losing your starter and your better backup?
I would like to keep Kosier around as an all around backup because of his versatility and bring in a very good LG.
Throughout the year, I heard people (on here and elsewhere) talk about how Columbo has been playing well, but I actually think he’s the player who needed to be replaced (not Flozell). Giving him his extension was a dumb move. The left side of the line was awful, but Flozell was plaing hurt and the LG might as well have been replaced by Tony Curtis (the TE).
Basically, let this team get healthy and then criticize them. Until the Eagles blow out, Dallas had been doing a pretty good job given the circumstances.
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 2:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
to add:
most penalized team in the NFL
mostturnovers in the NFL.
by oneforthethumb on Dec 30, 2008 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Both are problems
I agree. But the turnovers wouldn’t happen if the O-Line could block. If you think Romo wouldn’t rather throw 2 TDs in the first half and then hand the ball off for the second half you’re crazy. But ou have to understand that a lot of his turnovers occur where he is forced to try to make big plays to get the team back into the game. Against PIT for example, Romo probably reaslized that his pass was more likely to get picked than not, but making that risky throw was the only chance for a win.
The pick against BAL was bad, but if TO looked up on the previous play, there would have been no pick (because Romo would have been coming off of the field and the field goal team would have been ready to kick the PAT)
Penalties—also mostly due to the O-Line, but not because of injuries. I agree. Flozell is deaf in his right ear and plays LT. Columbo just gets a lot of penalties. Gurode messes up the snap count sometimes and he’s the CENTER! False starts are a big problem and I’m not sure how to fix that, but Dallas is very often called for penalties which do not occur:
-D Ware is too fast for refs to see. He used to get called off sides all the time last year without actually being offsides-I’ve seen a few encroachment calls (more than a few in the BAL game) where the refs didn’t even name an offender.
-D Pass interference-Newman in the Giants game comes to mind, but I’ve seen way too many BS PI penalties on the boys in the past 2 years.
-Pacman gets a 15 yard late hit penalty for nothing…
Just to put this into Perspective, though. Dallas got 119 penalties last year and was #1. The 952 yards were good for second place. This is a problem, but when you consider that a team that is in the middle of the pack like the Rams at #16, get 97 penalties for 718 yards! That means that Dallas could get roughly one fewer penalty per game and be an average team with regards to penalties. It’s not that serious. During games we constantly hear about it, and we always think about the effect that Dallas’ 4, 5 or 6 penalties have had on the game. That’s simply not fair. We have to consider the impact of the 1-2 penalties that the Cowboys got that most teams would not have.
Even the least penalized team, the pats, has half as may penalties per game as the Cowboys. So when assessing the importance of Dallas’ penalties, remember that ALL teams will get penalized and realize that the difference is subtle enough to be explained by 1-2 BS calls a game
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
are you serious?
Did you see the TERRIBLE pass to RWII in the FIRST HALF of the game last week? He threw it off his back foot, off-balance, and without thought – which is obvious because the pass was inexcusably terrible.
He presses when he should remain calm. It’s not the offensive line’s fault. It’s ROMO’s Fault. Parcells spelled this out as clearly as possible years ago. It still holds true. He’s irretrievably inconsistent.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How Many TDs has he thrown "Off balance" and off of his back foot?
You’ll also never convince me that RWII did his job correctly.
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Here’s what he should do.
Throw correctly. Period.
He’s learned fundamental technique for a very good reason. The same reason he carried a clipboard for 3 years.
he’s 28th in the NFL for INT ratio. You want that? He’s 2nd in the NFC in fumbles lost. You want that? He, alone, is probably responsible for 2-3 losses this season. How many big games has he yanked away from defensive blunders and WON on his own? Um… none? In September he doesn’t choke cuz he’s all loosey goosey havin’ fun chuckin’ it around the ol’ ball field. In December his sphincter is the width of a hair and he’s choking like Mama Cass on a bucket of chicken.
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
26-14 TD to INT ratio looks pretty good to me
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not good enough
We need him to special this year, he needed overcome the lack of execution for us to get in.. He couldn’t do it, not completely his fault, but no matter the stats it is a bad season for Romo.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget to add in his 7 fumbles
His TD to turnover ratio is 26 TD’s/21 Turnovers. You still think that is good?
by Philosopher on Dec 30, 2008 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those fumbles aren't his fault
those on on his OL
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
alot of players on this team do no give a@#$#
when i heard that a bunch of players where acting like it was there last day of school on the plane i was pissed….I figured if there not upset why should i be…We need a change in that locker room …Getting ride of wade would be great as well even though its not happening..WAde says he is changing hahahaha …yea sure you are wade lol…the schedule is fun and all that but means nothing when u have no team, just a bunch of individuals
by canty99 on Dec 30, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the hype lol
look at the personel on this team and ur telling me its a lie lol…please get with the program…pac man tank etc…..i believe it….time to get rid of the criminals on this team and move on
by canty99 on Dec 30, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What was the Problem
What did Tank and Pacman do? Pacman got into an argument/fight with his bodyguard and gets 4 games. Antonio Pierce and Brandon Jacobs help Plaxico hide a gun and are about to play in the playoffs!
Having Pacman on the team this year was a problem, but not because of him; the league and the media never gave him a chance. His play wasn’t great and he made some big mistakes on the field, but I think you have to agree that Proctor should get canned before Pacman based on play alone. Pacman’s past is putting him and the team in shitty situations, but he really hasn’t done anything unusual for ANY pro-football player since arriving in Texas. (i.e. if you take an SRS of NFL players and track them as closely as Pac has been, you’ll find that half of them did something like this.)
What ever happened to Marshawn Lynch running over a woman and driving away? How about Marvin Harrison shooting someone in North Philly? How many times is Correll Buckhalter going to get away with smoking weed? Chris Henry jumped out of a car wearing a Chris Henry Jersey and shot at someone. He was suspended, and cut, but he’s back. I guarantee that if any of those incidents happened to Cowboys, they’d be treated much more harshly. Could you even imagine if TO shot himself in the leg and Bradie James hid the gun for him? What if Barber was drunk and hit a pedestrian with his car?
If you don’t see some inequity, you’re blind. And now you’re listening to the very same people who think Pacman drinking and having some sort of scuffle with a bodyguard is a BIGGER PROBLEM THAN HARRISON SHOOTING SOMEONE!!!!!!
Keep believing the HYPE.
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 31, 2008 12:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Change
“Change is good when it’s good.” as obvious as this sounds, it’s very wise. I’d like to replace Wade if we could get Belichek, Tomlin or some other great coach, but are you guys really trying to get rid of a guy with his strengths (Great Defensive mind, likeability, successful first season) for a college coach or a coordinator that the team will be willing to part with (I mean we didn’t give up Garret last year, and the Giants didn’t give up Spagnuolo; both teams upped the salaries to keep their guy). Who are we going to get to replace Wade?
If Jerry gets Bill Cowher down here, I’m on board. Otherwise, Wade’s not bad.
Just for fun:
I’d love to see Wade move to D-Coordinator, Bill Cowher Come in and as Raf suggests Have Al Saunders come in and bring Mike Solari with him. I’d like to keep Campo around, because I think he’s done a good job with the D-backs, but maybe shop around for a D-Line coach.
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick, you're believing the 'BloggingBoys' hype that if it comes from the media
it must be wrong.
Did you read those quotes from James and Newman? Those are quotes, by real live players!
Anyone who can’t see that the team right now is screwed up mentally is blind.
the media is part of the problem, and the use hyperbole, but where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
What, did the Eagles suddenly get 38 points better than the Boys on the field? What you witnessed Sunday was the complete breakdown of a team emotionally/leadership/whatever term you want to put on it.
by Realist Larry on Dec 30, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you really have to stop talking complete logic on this blog Larry..... lol
Some need to take those rose colored glasses off first to be able to read
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you...well said
This team showed me alot in philly….they showed me they have zero leadership and no heart…philly is a team with heart and passion somehting dallas has zero of…Getting rid or players like pac man tank and t.o. would be a goood start, i understand t.o. will not get cut because of the contract but at least say good bye to pac man today…enough is enough
by canty99 on Dec 30, 2008 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Connection
What is the connection between the 3 players you named and the heart on this team? If you want to make an argument, structure it such that your conclusion logically follows. You’re merely making statements.
Larry, I agree that there are some problems on the team, it’s the source of those problems I’m unsure of. I don’t think it’s fair that Dallas had to deal with the attacks it has had to deal with all year. I think that it makes just as much sense to say that Dallas breaks down because they’re constantly taking shots and being called underachievers. I mean the only thing you could hear about in November, was how Dallas HAS PLAYED in December. Maybe if there wasn’t so much negative attention, the Cowboys could have been focused and motivated.
NO HEAD COACH SHOULD EVER HAVE HIS JOB THREATENED BY SOMEONE WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. If Jerry had told Wade that he had to win to keep his job, I would disagree with Jerry’s decision to do so, but he can. Why in the hell was Wade being asked about his job when his team was on track to make the playoffs DESPITE injuries and the media trying to destroy the team? Should anyone have asked Jerry the same? NO!
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Simple Economics
ESPN and other sports “news” are going to make more money when there’s something negative to say about the Cowboys. If there isn’t something bad there, they’ll make it happen.
T.O. has been pretty good here and I’ve had enough of the questions aimed at him (trying to make him blow up)
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that the media blows things out of proportion however...
T.o is not the same player anymore..he does not run clean routes and he still runs to espn for interviews lol…i do not need to explain myself when i say this team has no heart…Just watch the eagles game again and u will see..pac man and tank are cancers to a team…Jerry has not helped us out by giving the farm away for a lazy player who cannot run routes either ( Roy Williams) …You do not give up a 1 and a 3 for a wr lol…..its a joke
by canty99 on Dec 30, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad Form
Instead of addressing the problem with your argument, you decided to sidestep mine. I asked you how Pacman, Tank and TO have in any way diminished this team’s heart. You say they’re cancers…that’s a start, I suppose. BUT WHY, HOW, WHAT DO THEY DO to make OTHER PLAYERS play with LESS HEART?
I think you’d have a better chance tying RWII to the lack of heart. TO has a ton of heart, so does Pacman. Tank doesn’t have Ratliff heart, but he’s got more heart than Spears or…CANTY
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why
Pacman? The potential is there. He may not be stupid as a rock, he MIGHT be able to learn to play what’s called. Who knows if he’s a locker room trouble maker? I certainly don’t.
James and Newman are showing their true colors, though. They seem like malcontents. That’s why this team is what it is. Marginally good ball players think they a diva who can snap they fingas in the coaches face and sashay away.
James and Newman are PROVING, to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are the opposite of leaders. They’re negative, they’re whiners, they’re malcontents who instead of rallying the team and defending what needs defending, they’re dividing the team. Also, that BS needs to be dealt with within the clubhouse (despite that i love the juicy gossip.)
by Joey2zs on Dec 30, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pac man lol
u watched the eagles game right…i do not need to add to that …he is a waste of space
by canty99 on Dec 30, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Played hard
And everyone one is entitled to bad games.
by joey7289 on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The juice is not worth the squeeze with Pacman
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Dec 31, 2008 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad they're usually the ones that started it
All these a-hats love trying to start stuff about players/coaches. In reality most of them are simply being paid for the same thing we’re doing here except they are passing their opinions and speculation of as news and fact and often times anonymously sourcing it and then seeing where it goes. If you really think all these ‘analysts’ like that weasel Schefter or complete tools like..well anyone at the NewEnglandSportsNetwork are just reporting facts, you’re out of your mind.
I certainly agree with you that they are not the only problem, just a part, but they definitely have a way they treat people they like with people they don’t. Look at the stories about McNabb from NESPN, or NFL, my God, you’d think some of these guys were dating him the way they talk about him. You used to see that constantly with Favre, but that seems to be waning now that he’s pissed off the self-important NY media.
Someone has to decide what’s making these shows. It doesn’t get there on its’ own.
by makeit6 on Dec 30, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
afc west
I think the AFC west is going to be better next year. Denver is a few defensive players away from being really good, and their passing game will give the Dallas secondary fits. San Diego will have Merriman back healthy and it will be LT’s homecoming party (he went to TCU and I still see LT for Heisman bumper stickers here in Fort Worth).
KC could be better depending on what they have for a head coach and quarterback. Oakland has an AWESOME running game and finished the season strong, although I’m not sure that’s sustainable. It will be interesting to see a McFadden / F. Jones run off.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 30, 2008 3:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The AFC west is pretty good minus the Chiefs
Oakland has awesome running backs, but I’m not sure they have an awesome running game. They need to address that O-Line before anything good happens. Hopefully we’ll beat them out to get any good O-Lineman that they go after this offseason.
SD is still the class of that division, though; getting Merriman back will be HUGE. The Broncos have some tools, but also some holes. I guess this offseason will be really important for them.
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Green Bay Again?
The past 2 season after defeating GB, the team fell apart. Now make that 3 years in a row.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Dec 30, 2008 3:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
how you can already talk about next season and make predictions and all. It has barely been 48 hours since our 08 season ended. I find it too early for various reasons, mostly writen about some posts above, but also because I am kind of still in this season. Too hard to already concentrate on next one, too far away. But hey, it’s still entertaining to read your posts :-)
by Helene on Dec 30, 2008 4:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ROMO
Tony Romo came back from injury, was hit multiple times per drive and still had some pretty good stats.
He was #8 in QB rating in his worst season yet. His TD/Int ratio was close to 2-1…pretty good.
He was #6 in TDs despite missing 3 games and playing most not at 100%.
Romo’s sack total was really low at 20. This is NOT a testament to good O-Line play, but rather to his evasiveness. Brees was only sacked 13 times because his O-Line could block for him. Same with Peyton, Collins, Cutler, Ryan, Delhomme…
Let’s look at other teams with BAD O-Lines
The Steelers, despite their TEAM success (courtesy of the LEAGUE’s best DEFENSE) has been terrible passing the ball. Big Ben was sacked 47 times, threw 15 picks (to Romo’s 14) and only threw 17 TDs (to ROMO’s 26!!!). Ben wasn’t alone, Garrard didn’t fare well behind a bad Jaguars line either.
Favre had a decent line in NY (at least compared to the Cowboys) and threw 22 picks.
Cutler’s line did a great job, yet he threw 18 picks (4 more than Romo)
Romo is not the best QB in the league right now, but if Brady doesn’t come back and the line can block like it did a year ago next season, he sure has a shot at it.
Everyone needs to stop trying to assess an individual’s performance without factoring in the play of those around him. Witten played great, but that was it. The line played horribly (which made it difficult to get the ball downfield) to other receivers. TO, Crayton and RWII let Romo down all the time.
Ask yourself this: did any QB do a better job than Romo this year given the circumstances the whole team was in? or better yet…Could anyone else have stepped in and done a better job with this team…this year with all else that happened? and with such a horrible O-Line?
Brees-Maybe? But his Offense was pretty good. Only the D on that team stunk. I don’t think he would have gotten out of trouble as often as Romo did.
Warner-No-he’s the only QB with a better receiving corps than Romo, but the Line kept him clean. Warner would have played 3 games for the boys this year before being broken in half. No way he would have played through the back injury!
Cassel-NO WAY-he’s on a team that went 15-1 last year (with Brady) but is still a good team. He was sacked 46 times, but mostly because he was indecisive. When he got sacked, it was mostly because
Manning-Maybe, still haven’t seen him play without a capable O-Line. He gets rid of the ball well, but he’s not going to get out of the pocket when it collapses.
Eli-You’ve got to be kidding me. Let’s see how he does without Plex in the playoffs this year. No one’s there to catch those jump balls this year, Eli!!!!
Cutler-No, No, No——Similar stats to Romos with a much better Line.
Matt Ryan-No. He would have looked like a deer in the headlights all year…same with Flacco.
Favre-HAHA! 22 picks this year. and with a much better line that Dallas has. He would have thrown 30 here.
So…now you guys tell me who you want to replace ROMO? Let him feel comfortable in the Pocket and then see if he makes those hasty decisions that we all hate. Even when he’s not pressured, he has to think it’s bound to come. This year, Brees had a great season because he KNEW he would have time. Romo KNEW HE WOULDNT
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 4:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
finally a man that gets it! Thank you Nick!
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
don't want a replacement
but, I want Romo he is not Elite. Every Qb needs to be groomed and protected. I expect to see a better Romo next year.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A Voice of Reason
Thanks Nick for trying to put some of this in perspective. There are some other thoughts I had while reading your post::
I believe that the first game between the Cowboys and Iggles was won by Dallas 41-37. That means they averaged better than 40 pts a game in two contests and all our players weren’t injured the first time. Just some food for thought.
For those of you who wish to criticize Newman for the (Hit him in the helmet pass to Jackson) I suggest you look at that play again. That was a perfectly thrown ball from McNabb. If you want to blame Newman for letting Jackson behind him fine, but as it stood, there was no way Newman was kniocking down that pass. Sometimes the other team makes a great play. They get paid too.
Would someone please tell me what Tank Johnson has done to get grief? I’m talking strictly about since he has been a Cowboy. I ask this question totally out of ignorance of the situation.
Roy Williams II has been injured for weeks with the same injury Newman had last year that kept him out of about five games. If wide receivers can’t run, they aren’t going to be too effective. Of course if he hadn’t played, he would have been a punk. No win for him there.
Lastly, would everyone please get of Romo’s back. He doesn’t have a “Manning” pedigree so everyone dumps on him. It took Peyton 6 years (I think) to win a super bowl and Romo’s had 2.5. The kid was an undrafted free agent that we did not have to mortgage the draft for. CALM DOWN. I am as pissed as everyone else but I also see that we lead the league in sacks which is something people were crying about for years too. You got Wade and Co. for 3 years. He took over a 9-7 team. Sometimes a little patience is required.
by jevans1729 on Dec 30, 2008 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Romo in '07 (when the line did it's job!)
335 of 520 64.4% completion, 4,211 yards, 8.1 yds/attmpt, 36 TDS! 19 picks, 24 sacks, 97.4 QB rating, and 2 rushing TDs!
I’ll take him over Cassel (Schaub 2.0) ANYDAY!
by NICK L on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1 those are elite numbers
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How many fumbles did he have?
He had 7 this year in addition to his 14 picks. He was responsible for 21 of the Cowboys 32 turnovers.
That won’t get it done. And it didn’t.
by Philosopher on Dec 30, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fumbles aren't his fault
if he’s being hit blindsided, almost all qbs fumble in that situation. What did Eli do when Ware sacked him a few games ago?
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eli was sacked 27 times and fumbled 5 times. Romo was sacked 20 times and fumbled 13 times, all of Romo’s fumbles can’t be on the o-line. If that was the case, there would be more of a relation between fumbles and sacks. He needs to get better at protecting the ball when he’s running for his life, those are the backbreaking one’s.
Occasionally the QB gets hit from behind in the pocket and drops it, but lots of Romo’s fumbles come when he’s running around with the ball out for no reason and not protecting it.
by Phildo on Dec 30, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no reason??
he’s trying to make a play downfield..make a play, thats what makes him special, the knack for the big play.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing he looks when he gets stripped from behind is special ed.
And he really needs to reel in that pump fake move when he gets scrambling on the outside.
by MadMick on Dec 30, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No excuses
You touch Romo and the ball is coming out.. Not sure if he lost strength in hand due to injury, but if you hit him it was coming out.. You can’t make excuses for that, just because you support Romo doesn’t mean you have to blind faith..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terry must be Romo's agent because he is delusional...lol
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I respect terry’s undying love of Romo. I think Romo can be the answer a QB, but he is some areas he needs to improve on before next season starts. Until he does that I will not say he is an elite qb.. He needs more stretch’s of zero turnover games..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A logical alternative at QB is to draft a guy like Chase Daniel in the middle rounds.
By alternative, of course, I mean a guy who might be Romo’s replacement as soon as 2011 if the grinning gunslinger continues to regress. Even if Romo proves himself to be the man or another big name is brought in as soon as 2010 to replace him, a guy like Daniel is a good young arm to pick up in the middle round and develop.
That must have been some dynamite bar-b-que the Panthers swapped to Jerry for Matt Moore. Something goofy like Moore taking over for Delhomme in 2010 and Delhomme replacing Romo will probably actually end up happening.
Seriously, though, the upcoming list of free agent QB’s is pretty lacklustre. Most of the guys are at least upgrades over Brad and Brooke as back-ups but they’ve all had their shots to be “the man” elsewhere and been run out of town except Matt Cassel and your guess is as good as mine as to what he actually is.
by MadMick on Dec 30, 2008 5:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they'll bring in a guy like Luke McCown
and become the long term backup. Romo is the franchsie will be for at least 6-7 more years.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, right. And I'm sure at one point Rams fans thought Kurt Warner would have them competing for their 4th or 5th Super Bowl by now.
by MadMick on Dec 30, 2008 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy won a super bowl...i doubt they are complaining.
by joey7289 on Dec 31, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations. You totally missed my point.
Terry point blank said Romo will be the Cowboys starter for the next 6-7 years.
Yes, Warner did win a Super Bowl for the Rams in his 1st year of starting and at the age of 28; younger than Romo is now. Two seasons later, he had them playing in another Super Bowl. But little did anybody know that their win in the NFC Title Game against the Eagles would be the last game Warner would win for them as a starter. That was my point; how quickly things change in the NFL; not to knock Warner who is apparently a distant cousin or in-law of yours.
by MadMick on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How did you know!
He’s actually my second cousin.
by joey7289 on Dec 31, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I personally like Luke..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's hard to believe
Things change so fast in the NFL. I was convinced Romo was leading us to our second straight Superbowl at this point in the season last year.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Dec 30, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
then you shouldn't turn on him so fast
he’s still the same qb provided he gets protection.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but.......
Part of his magic is supposed to be how smooth he is even when he’s pressured. That’s supposed to be part of the reason why you can forgive the occasional horribly goofy pass like the one he overshot to Miles Austin way back in Week 2 against the Eagles when Romo was in tip top shape and the line was giving him enough time to do bong hits in the pocket.
by MadMick on Dec 30, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pressure is one thing
facing jail breaks is another
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 30, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we access to coaches film
I really want to see the difference between this year and last year.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo regressed this year
And I can’t turn away from it. It’s not only the protection — he has gotten more impatient, more cavalier and less careful. The mojo’s gone.
His attitude off the field stinks of devil-may-care, and I take that as a slap in the face.
I would forgive all his mistakes this year if I got the sense from him that it actually means something quarterbacking the Dallas Cowboys beyond getting to screw another celebrity.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Dec 30, 2008 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jessica is tired...he could find better...
Yeah really, how can anyone ignore the mistakes he made this season…I don’t see too many on here defending Romo besides Terry……and that’s not surprising….
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 30, 2008 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo is a big boy
He can right a lot of his wrongs, by just protecting the football, and spending this off-season working on his timing with Roy, TO, and Miles. He does that and Romo wins the MVP next year.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Dec 30, 2008 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like Chase Daniel alot
He reminds me alot of Drew Bress and I wouldn’t him being him being picked up by dallas
by Deke on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And talk about regression
Look at him from last year to this year…he should have declared early. He’ll drop and if he does I would take him, but I am not sticking my neck out for a poor man’s Drew Brees.
by joey7289 on Dec 31, 2008 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like
Grinning Gunslinger
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Dec 30, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You will find him in....
Mississippi rehabbing from a shoulder injury……
by thejanusman on Dec 30, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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