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Yip City -- Romo and Newman Wear Down Late

It's hard to watch good players put in lousy days at the office.  It's even harder to watch them play good football for three quarters and then lose their snap in the fourth quarter.  In the end Terence Newman and Tony Romo, two of the biggest names on the roster, missed chances in the late third and early fourth quarter that helped tip the game in Pittsburgh's favor.

 

Star-divide

Terence Newman had helped the corner unit shut down the Steelers wideouts completely.  He had broken up a deep in in the second quarter that ended a Steelers drive. 

Late in the 3rd, two plays after Nick Folk's field goal had put Dallas up 13-3, the Steelers faced a 3rd-and-16.  They were going into a stiff wind.  They had amassed just 96 total yards to this point.  Steelers OC Bruce Arians called a go route to Santonio Holmes.  Newman was playing ten yards off Holmes and the snap and was in good position to track him down the field.  But Newman squatted for a split second at 18 yards, expecting a deep in or comeback at the first down mark.  That brief hesitation let Holmes separate a step.  He caught Roethlisberger's bomb for 47 yards.

The Cowboys stopped the Steelers on this drive with a salty goal-line stand, but the play changed the nature of the game.  The Steelers were on their 20 yard line at the time.  Dallas had scored 10 points on its two 3rd quarter drives.  An incompletion here would have forced a punt into the wind, and neither Sam Paulescu or Mitch Berger could kick more than 30 yards into it.  Dallas was looking at a start near mid-field with the wind and a chance for an early knockout.

What's worse, it helped the Steelers single out Newman as a target.  Holmes beat him for 12 yards on the left sideline several plays later, when Roethlisberger was scrambing away from intense pressure and looking for a lifeline.  Holmes burned Newman again on the following play but Roethlisberger overthew him in the left back corner of the end zone. 

The Steelers went back at Newman two series later, after getting a field goal from a three-play, two-yard drive.  After Nate Washington caught a hook for 14 yards in front of Anthony Henry, the Steelers went no-huddle, in part to prevent a review of Washington's questionable catch.  Washington ran a square in away from Newman, who gave the Steeler a ten-yard cushion.  Newman offered a tepid chase, as Washington cut through the secondary for 21 yards, to the Dallas 32. 

80 late Pittsburgh passing yards came over and in front of Newman, who does not look like himself.  When he's healthy, Newman has acceleration few can match.  That zip is missing.  He's not 100% right now and might never be this year.  I would be surprised if the Giants don't test him early next week.

In Romo's case, he seemed to have overcome his first half yips.  He was sharp in the third quarter, when he looked to the rookies Tashard Choice and Martellus Bennett.  Both figured prominently in Dallas two second half scoring drives.  It was Romo's inability to find his other new target, Roy Williams, which kept Dallas from pushing their lead to fourteen points.

One play after Tashard Choice ran a circle route and sliced through the Steelers secondary for 50 yards, the Cowboys lined up on the Steelers' ten.  Jason Garrett placed Witten and Owens on their right.  The Cowboys ran a flood of the Pittsburgh zone, as Choice ran a flare wide of the two Pro Bowlers.  Romo could not find a target on his right and dashed left away from pressure. 

Romo finally found Roy Williams in the back left corner of the end zone, but he was running too hard to his left and was too close to the sideline to attempt an across his body throw.  Romo switched hands and tried to shot put the ball left handed, but his heave flew out of bounds. 

To be fair, Williams was Romo's fourth option, but he was wide open from the beginning of the play.  Had Romo glanced left he would have found an easy target for a 17-3 lead.

Romo lacked the touch Roethlisberger showed going in either direction.  Any throw 15 or more yards up field sailed on him.  Two of his final throws showed how his loose grip and tunnel vision cost him a chance to pull Dallas back into the game.

Romo managed a quick first down two plays after his throw for Witten was picked off by Deshea Townsend and returned for a score.  On 1st and ten from the Dallas 28, Garrett called the same circle route for Choice that had worked so well a quarter before.  Choice again blew past a Steelers linebacker and had room to run in the middle of the field.  Romo was not pressured yet his soft toss sailed yards beyond the RB. 

Three plays later, on 4th and 10, Garrett made an inspired call.  He put Dallas in three wide, with Choice and Witten flanking Romo in the backfield -- Choice on Romo's left and Witten on his right.  Patrick Crayton was flanked wide right with T.O. in the right slot.

Owens ran a corner route.  Witten ran a seam up the right hash mark from the running back position and Crayton ran a square in right at ten yards.  Witten's route cleared out the right zone;  three Steelers chased him.  Owens cleared Deshea Townsend, and made his cut wide.  Crayton was wide open running his pattern underneath Witten.  What's more, he was running right to left, away from the Steelers' safeties, both of whom were locked in on Witten.

It was an easy toss for Romo and had Crayton made the catch he had clear sailing to the open side of the field.  I can't say he would have scored but Crayton would undoubtedly have run deep into Steelers' territory. This could have been a replay of the Cardinals game, where a short toss to Marion Barber turned into a long TD that drew the Cowboys even in the final seconds of regulation.

Romo didn't wait.  He was facing some pressure from James Harrison, who was crashing inside Flozell Adams, but he had another count to let Crayton clear. Romo hurried his throw towards Witten, who was not expecting the toss. 

It's easy to assume Witten misjudged the route.  I did in my initial writeup.  Witten is the target visible from the sideline angle. Romo threw the ball exactly where it needed to be, but two steps before Crayton got to the target point.

Having looked again at the tape, I'm now convinced that Garrett crossed up Pittsburgh, calling a key play for an ancillary Cowboys target.  He did this in a similar situation last year against the Giants, when he called a 3rd and long for Sam Hurd with Dallas clinging to a three point lead late.

The difference is that Romo ran the play that time.  Hurd beat his man and scored a long catch-and-run to ice that game.  Yesterday, Romo didn't wait for his 3rd wide out, adding to a long day of missing Bennett, Choice and Williams. 

These guys are all still new.  Bennett has been around all year but is only getting heavy reps since the bye.  Williams was obtained just before the trading deadline and Romo's hand injury limited their work.  Choice made his first start today. 

It doesn't matter.  They've all shown they can produce -- if Tony will get them the ball.  Bennett won the Redskins game with a late catch.  Choice had as good a day against the Steelers as any back has this year.  Williams is a breakout waiting to happen.

Romo will simply have to trust them more going forward.  The season depends on this.

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yea

i swear i saw crayton open a couple of times
i was banking on him having a good game but romo looked nervous out there
and he rushed alot of throws
choice is a monster however and he is a big reason we got into the red zone those few times
romo’s best throw was the td pass to owens which was a phenomenal throw and catch but thats really it
i wonder if it was the wind, the cold, or even the lack-of-splint
but one thing i know is that if this was played in texas stadium we would’ve won easily
its not the end of the the world..i hated how the steelers players were intentionally trying to hurt our players but w/e its their crappy field and their house
i have confidence against the giants…honestly the team that scares me is the ravens but i think we can outscore them

Superbowl or Bust?

by MrMinority on Dec 8, 2008 1:23 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you and Raf are correct

he seemed to anticiapte the rush too much and het the ball out too early at times…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 5:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m a little nervous about TO’s psyche right now.

Is it JG’s play-calling, Romo, or TO’s age that’s preventing him from having monster games?

by Turbo73 on Dec 8, 2008 1:35 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm...

7 degrees, a bad field, and the 2nd best D in history (yds per play) may have something to do with it..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 8, 2008 1:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, the team I’m most worried about is the Eagles. Those fools’ confidence must by sky high after beating the Giants, plus they always play us well

by Turbo73 on Dec 8, 2008 1:40 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't worry about the Eagles 3 games from now

because if we lose next week we could very well be out of the playoffs.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 10:16 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is, but

look, the Eagles turned their season around on a dime. They were down in the dumps, and now thrashed the Cards and the Giants.

Turnarounds can come at any time. Dallas needs to remind themselves their defense played damn well yesterday and keep going. That was their best game of the season.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 1:43 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and actually 5 of their last 6 games have been good defensively

and they are continually improving, even as beat up as the secondary has been.

by scottmaui on Dec 8, 2008 1:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Eagles

always seem to do this every year — they start out strong, then a few guys go down and they tank. Then they start playing well when they’re pretty much out of the running & manage to ruin a lot of other team’s chances.

I’m just having a hard time believing we’re only one game better than them. Ugh

by Pete222 on Dec 8, 2008 8:11 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In which round

should Jerry draft Romo’s eventual replacement? it’s time to start looking at the future cause Romo is no the answer. He proved it w/o a shadow of a doubt in Pittsburgh. He gift wrapped that game for them. Also, he never looks for RoY Williams. I was at the Washington and San Fran games and Roy was open a bunch of times, yet Romo was always looking for TO or Witten.
Romo isn’t the guy to get Dallas anywhere. Time to start grooming.

by VA Dallas Fan on Dec 8, 2008 3:25 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wrong

I still have confidence that Romo will win mutliple SBs before its all said and done… he had a bad game against the very best defense in the league in horrid conditions…it happens, deal with it.

Any qb we draft isn’t going to better than Romo.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:09 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Terry...stop making excuses....

He was throwing high the whole game. Witten may have slipped on his route which accounted for one turnover, but the other 2 and the fumble were awful. Romo has to stop the turnovers, especially late in the season if we are going anywhere with him.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 10:19 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't make any excuses

I admitted he had a bad game…whats there more to admit?

Where did I say it was Witten’s fault?

But to say Romo isn’t a good qb and not capable of great things in the future because he a bad day against the very best defense in the league, actually one of the best defenses the last 10 yeras, the very first time he has played them, is ridiculous.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Point is he has to stop the turnovers or we won't win anything.

He now has a reputation of being turnover prone and that’s not good. He has to be a good QB when it counts, in big games, not against bad teams like SF and Seattle.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 10:40 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The thing about Romo

I can’t get over is just how easy it is for him to get over a loss. He has no sense of urgency, nonchalant about his play, his team’s play. I can’t say he is the team captain or not. He might be behind doors, but he seems to take Wade’s personality. Where eveything is greener on the other side. We will never win a playoff game with all his turnovers. Even one turnover in the playoffs could kill us. I would just like to see him take control of the team on and off the field. I have never heard of Tony ripping into his players, he always cuddles them, just like Wade P. All I know with Troy at the helm I never questioned who was in charge of that team, that’s despite having two future Hall of Famers in that Huddle!

by rocj55 on Dec 8, 2008 11:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What you're his shrink now?

He told you he doesn’t care? Seriously.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude... Please...

He hasn’t even played 3 full seasons yet. Once he settles in he is going to be near Brady’s level. One bad game against a defense that makes EVERY QB look bad is not time to push the panic button.

by gee-roj on Dec 8, 2008 10:54 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

excuses.......

He is a turnover machine. We live and die by it. I can live with a INT a game, but his lack of ball control and INT’s has to stop if we plan on winning a SB with him.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 11:03 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed...

My feeling it is that he eventually will. Maybe not this year. But he will

by gee-roj on Dec 8, 2008 11:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's also a winning machine

or haven’t you checked? I know, I know. He turns it over.

He has a better winning percentage than any other Cowboys QB at this point in his career and one of the top in history. Geeze, the guy had a bad game. Give it a rest already.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's been in this organization for six years

He isn’t getting any younger, and doesn’t seem to be getting any smarter as a starting QB.

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 11:15 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 Deke

Were not talking Matt Ryan here…I expect it from a rookie, but not a QB that has been in the NFL for 6 seasons. If he can’t win the big games like yesterday were not winning anything.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 11:20 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He hasn't won any big games? Really?

You and Deke need to get real about what QBs do in this league. I seriously can’t think of one that would meet your standards except maybe Brady.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

they expect perfection, not consistency. Romo’s career numbers proves he’s consistent.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You guys are ridiculous

You want the QB to have a great game every game. I bet you I can point to games this season where Peyton Manning and Drew Brees has had just as bad of a game against worse defenses.

We have to understand this is the NFL and you are not going to get through a 16 game season without your QB putting up a stinker AT LEAST once a year. Especially against one of the best defenses in today’s NFL.

Cowboys fans always want perfection from their QB, but that aint going to happen.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 8, 2008 11:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

Plus it helps if the OC can for once come up with something that catches the opponent off guard by throwing some type new wrinkle into the game plan.

by gee-roj on Dec 8, 2008 11:33 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This wasn't on the OC this was on Romo

I don’t think Garrett is as bad as everyone is making him out to be. Romo missed open receivers and forced things. Garrett has no control over that.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 8, 2008 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Every QB does it.. Didn’t Peyton throw 5 int’s vs. San Diego last year.

Brees 3 int’s vs TB last week, one of them in the last 4 minutes to seal the game.

Every QB does it..

Romo had a really bad game and I do believe if he just plays decent we win, but he didn’t. What can you do? Start over? Please, give him some time, we still hold the 6th seed. Playoffs are a accumulation of 16 games, you just have to let it play out, before you make rash decisions..

I am mad at Tony, but Tony is still my franchise QB.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 8, 2008 2:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's be real

Let’s be real. At this point Tony Romo is the low hanging fruit to blame and rightfully so because he is becoming turnover prone. That needs to stop, no doubt about it. Yesterday’s game was simply against the best defense in the league. In reality, he has been Dallas starting QB for only two seasons +. I don’t care if he has been in the system for 6 years, he has only played for 2 and I do believe he will mature.

It’s unfortunate though to know that receivers are wide open out there for him to throw
to and yet he is missing them for whatever reason. This season is not over yet, but clearly time is running out in a hurry and the teams we have left on the schedule have one objective on their agendas: BEAT DALLAS. We’ll see,

by lyad on Dec 8, 2008 12:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did not get to see the game, but

this is the third or forth time I have read where it said the Steelers were intentionally trying to hurt the Dallas players. Is this true?

In the playoff game a few years back I thought the Pittsburgh player intentionally went for Carson Palmers knees knocking him out of the game. Neither Palmer or the bengals have been the same since.

In Ricky Willimas first game back I remember a Steeler player stomping on his shoulder and knocking him out for the rest of the season

by 082288 on Dec 8, 2008 3:32 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea

thats what they do
the hines ward controversy from earlier in the season isn’t much of anything
but in this game their players were intentionally trying to injure our player while omar epps cheered along on the sidelines
i actually heard a steeler player scream im gonna hurt you during pacman’s punt return
its w/e though we have to fight and win these next 3 games
and prove we’re a true elite team

Superbowl or Bust?

by MrMinority on Dec 8, 2008 3:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've got to be kidding me. . .

Where? On which play did a Steeler player intentionally try to hurt a Cowboy yesterday? Everyone heard the Steelers sideline jabbing at Pacman after a return . . . you dont think that kind of stuff goes on all game long in every game?

Just like blaming the refs. . . the “oh man, the other team was trying to hurt us” excuse makes me sick.

by The IC Lion on Dec 8, 2008 8:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't see anything chippy.

There was a lot of jawing, but so what? You see that in every divisional game.

This was a hard hitting game. Dallas landed its blows. It made too many errors. End of story.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 9:02 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go back and watch the play

That witten got injured on….He’s holding a block ,while Troy Polomanu…(sp) tried to leg whip witten,then another steeler hits him low and injures him…..IT HAPPENED….
PITTSBURGH IS A DIRTY TEAM…..I’m not crying…we kicked their asses for 55 minutes…..and if we played that game under normal conditions…I like our chances…..But the steelers are a dirty team and always have been!!!

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Dec 8, 2008 3:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pacman

They were beating the crap out of him on every touch on STs.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually heard that too....and it made me feel uncomfortable about the direction

that kind of behavior is taking us.

It’s bad enough that a player (any player!) can get hurt in the course of a game without worrying about getting deliberately injured. There has to be a balance between hard hitting and obvious attempts to cripple another human being.

After the Eagles handed us our *sses I was naturally pulling for the Steelers but I will say that your defense was the best I’ve seen in years yesterday. And Choice proved he is ready to start. I’m not sure what is going on between Romo and his receivers though. Could this possibly be a result of bad coaching? Or maybe Witten is more injured than we think. It’s hard to believe a guy that good could be so out of sync with his quarterback.

Anyway next week’s game should be a gutsy affair. I’m certainly not overconfident about the outcome.

by giant fan since 57 on Dec 8, 2008 5:09 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Undisciplined practice breeds undisciplined play

I agree 100% with this post. Whether it was mental or physical this team “again” did not have the ability to finish the game. Which confirms the philosophy you “You play the game, like you practice the game”.

by Macksfield on Dec 8, 2008 5:29 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not ready to abandon ship...

I watched the game an as much as I was frustrated with Some of what Romo did, I have to say under duress you can’t see the whole field. The Steelers knew that if they forced Romo out of his comfort zone he immediately is going to look for Witten first, Barber second an maybe if he has time T.O 3rd.

With Barber out of the game you can see Witten gained double to triple team at times, but he was so locked in he rarely looked for other Recv. Now credit has to be given to the Steelers D, they didn’t give him much time. there were a few plays where people where wide open but yet he decide to try an force the throw. With all that being said I still had confidence that we could have came back to win the game even after the last INT an I believe that because Romo has proven that he can bring Dallas back even when he has had horrible games. I still believe Romo’s best years are still ahead of him but its going to take some more seasoning before we can truly label him the next______ (fill in the blank)

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Dec 8, 2008 5:58 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't see...

any of the game, but listened to the Pittsburgh feed for most of the 2nd half. Dallas committed quite a few dumb penalties down the stretch when it looked as if the Steelers basically wanted to hand us the game with that 4th & 1 drive.

Of course, here come the ‘December collapse’ articles — first thing I see on FoxSports this morning, yulk.

by Pete222 on Dec 8, 2008 8:15 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remaining Games..

Can Dallas still afford 1 loss with the remaing 3 games?

by Prime-Time on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only if Atlanta loses a few more games

and Skins and Eagles lose one more game.

11 wins, as I’ve said many times, is a lock to get in, however, 10 is iffy.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

Agreed, we hold our own destiny if win out, if we don’t, all bets are off.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 8, 2008 2:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No they can't

Unless Atlanta folds which doesn’t appear so. There are 3 or 4 teams 1 game behind us. If we lose the Giants game we might as well start posting mock drafts the next day.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 10:22 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atlanta can fold, they have a tough schedule

but you are right, Giants is a must win game.

BTW, what good does a mock draft do for us when we don’t even have a 1st rd pick?

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:38 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well have one

11 picks to move around…Jerry will move up. I wouldn’t worry about that.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 10:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any word

On Jacobs and Ross injuries?

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 8, 2008 2:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree on that 3rd and 16 play being the turning point...

I think the Cowboys defense has improved greatly of late – but it’s Achilles heel all year has been giving up long 3rd down plays. We just seem to let teams off the hook. Despite this loss, I’m still optimistic this team will make a run in the playoffs. The offensive line looked good yesterday, opening holes nobody in the NFL has been able to do against a great Steeler D. But it’s the defense that now looks to be the strength of this team! If we can get consistent on both sides of the ball, we can win out.

Yea, I’m still that optimistic.

Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith ... and now BOTH Marion Barber and Felix Jones

by DalaiLuke on Dec 8, 2008 8:38 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you

And with an offense that has this much potential, we should be able to win our next three with defensive performances like we’ve seen. The next two games are in the cozy confines of Texas Stadium, which should help the offense, and I can’t see the defense collapsing this year. Once you know you can play like they’re playing, you get a “we can stop anyone” swagger.

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Dec 8, 2008 8:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cowboys fans should be optimisic

If Romo is himself, we win easy. He had a stinker, but the rest of the team played outstanding.

If they play that way the next 3 weeks, we’ll make the playoffs.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Romo wasn't himself? Ha ha - good one!

I’ve got news for you, Tony Romo WAS himself yesterday. He is an incredibly talented but incredibly inconsistent quarterback who is a turnover machine. Against good teams like Pittsburg he will kill the team more often that lead the Cowboys to victory. Romo was just being himself yesterday. As you like to say Terry, you take the good with the bad with Tony Romo. Well, when he is playing bad he is playing up to form every bit as much as when he is playing well.

This team is going nowhere with Romo playing fast and loose with the football. To this point in his career, Romo is not a winner – he just puts up pretty stats but folds his tent when the going gets tough. Too bad the fate of our team rests on his shoulders.

by Cowboy Louie on Dec 8, 2008 1:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not true Louie

Tony has beaten good defenses before, but this was the first time he played against a Dick LeBeau defense, there aren’t too many qbs who are going to play well their first time against this defense.

If Tony plays this way the next 3 games, then you win the argument, but if he plays well, you’re proven wrong and eating crow.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 1:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, you don't understand my position

If Romo plays this way ONE of the last three games I win the argument – not if he plays this way all three of the final games.

If Romo has two great games and two terrible games, that puts him at 2-2 for the final four games. Not good enough with the talent on this team! The whole point of my argument isn’t that he doesn’t have good games – of course he does. The point of my argument is that he has too many terrible games that cause losses. INCONSISTENCY is the basis of my argument. Romo needs to tone his game down to become more consistent. Taking less risk will reduce some of the sparkling stats but he will be a much better quarterback and the Cowboys would have a much, much better chance of being a successful team.

By the way, I would LOVE a big, heaping helping of crow. I would love to eat crow all the way to the Super Bowl.

by Cowboy Louie on Dec 8, 2008 3:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for Some reason, Terry thinks we take pleasure in the misfoutunes of Tony Romo

When in fact, all we are asking from him is to play better and make better decisions with the football, but for Terry, he thinks we just hate Tony Romo, when that’s not the case at all…we just want him to play up to his potential and expectations

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 4:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no Deke you want him to be perfect

all qbs have bad days, there aren’t any qbs who play great all the time. That doesn’t mean they are average and inconsistent. This was the first bad game Romo has played in a long time, definitely his first bad game of the year.

Like I said before, if Romo didn’t consistenly perform at a high level since he’s been the starter, we would have never even made the playoffs the last 2 years, its that simple.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would be great if you actually said that Deke

But you’ve actually said the team can’t ewin with him. Own up, you’re the photo begatiove of Terry on this. And as unreasonable as anyone on this point. Have you ever mentioned his winning percentage or accuracy? I can’t recall it. It’s all about the flaw in his game. There’s more to him than just turnovers.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cant win consistantly in this league turning tha ball over against good teams

especially in the playoffs, there is a direct corrolation between turnovers and loses in the playoffs. Romo has to start limiting the turnovers, make better decision and stop forcing balls into places he has no business throwing into. If that doesn’t change, and soon, then its time to find someone else to quarterback this team.

This team should of brought a younger Qb in to groom, to develop and push Romo. Garrett and the rest of the coaching staff needs to start to drill that in his head that these careless turnovers are not going to be tollerated..

How freakin complicated is that for some of you to comprehend

by Deke on Dec 9, 2008 9:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By your Logic

Brett Farve isn’t a Hall of Fame quarterback. (I’m not saying Romo is)

But by your logic Brett Farve “IS HIMSELF” when throwing picks, cause like Romo, he gives a lot of games away with his incosistent play.

I agree Romo needs to not be soo risky. But then again That is was makes him special.

by Prime-Time on Dec 8, 2008 4:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two years into starting? Sure.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was aimed at Favre.

A career flooded with stats and individual accomplishments but continued failure on the big stage. I’m not closing the book on Romo already. I’m not that naive. But Favre is the ultimate choke artist.

by Mandmeisterx on Dec 8, 2008 9:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Favre is the perfect example

Prime Time, that’s exactly what I’m saying. I live in Wisconsin and I’ve watched up close how Brett Favre has put up all sorts of gaudy stats and has been the media darling for seventeen straight seasons. But what has he accomplished? One Super Bowl, despite his all-world talents and many very good Packer teams. He has been a really, really bad playoff quarterback. Why? Because he is far too inconsistent to string together multiple wins against good competition. Brett Favre never matured as a quarterback and the only time he found success in his career (success being winning the Super Bowl) was when Holmgren reined him in.

Tony Romo has the same all-world talents that Brett Favre has. Unfortunately, the same story line that Favre wrote in Green Bay is playing out in Dallas right now. If you want gaudy stats, an entertaining, gun slinging style of play and lots of media attention, then Favre and Romo are your guys. If you want to win playoff games, look to someone else who knows how to play winning quarterback.

To specifically answer your question, yes, by my logic Brett Favre certainly is just being himself when he throws interceptions. He has thrown more than anyone who has ever played the game, and he seems to throw picks at inopportune times in the playoffs.

The Cowboys need to find out if Romo can still be special playing a toned down game where turnovers are the exception, not the rule. The status quo will lead to nothing but frustrating seasons where the Cowboys either don’t make the playoffs or if they do, they head to an early exit behind three picks and a fumble from the media darling quarterback.

by Cowboy Louie on Dec 8, 2008 7:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and why didn't Greenbay get to the superbowl last year

wasn’t that the same Brett favre throwing the INT in overtime against the giants..

So, as you said it terry, He EVENTUALLY won a superbowl, when he had the talent on those packer teams to win more.

Had the cowboys on the ropes until he threw another bonehead INT that set the cowboys up in packer territory in 95, and the cowboys went on the win the game becaus eof that turnover

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PERFECT

Favre can’t meet Deke’s standards either. Betcha those boneheds in the Hall of Fame disagree ith you Deke.

Nuff said.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not my standards Dunk that you better worry about

it’s about a Qb that is careless with the football and turns it over in big spots, that costs you games, especially in the playoffs. You have to limit turnovers in big game, if you dont, you lose big games. Thats different than saying Romo cant win big games, that’s a different argument and not what I’m saying.

Its not about hall of fame, way to take it way off the conversation. Favre is the all time INT leader, you think the packers would of won a lot more games, important games, playoff games, if Favre wasn’t so careless throwing the ball to the other team….If you dont think so, ask a packer fan!!!

NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Deke on Dec 9, 2008 9:20 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess Nick agrees with me Louie
Nick: As I’ve said many a times, it seems like Cowboys fans only call a big game the ones they lose. I think Romo was played well in “big games” and gotten his team over the hump. And if you want to come back and say he’s 0-2 in the playoffs, then fine. You’ve got me. But then don’t call this game or any other a big game. I thought Romo struggled to throw the ball with the wind. I think we knew that coming in. He’s a gunslinger. He tried. It didn’t really work. But what can you do? Bench him? Find someone else. You can’t. All you have to do is go through the list of 32 starting quarterbacks and you won’t be able to find two or three that you’d take over Romo right now. If you can, you’re crazy.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=188894EA-CCEA-02D5-C342787FFD65DB76&contentType=5

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most people agree with you at this point

It shouldn’t be too hard to find people who agree with you. Yours is the majority opinion at this point.

by Cowboy Louie on Dec 9, 2008 8:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly

We’re not saying Tony cant win the big game, but continuing to turn it over in those big games, limits your chances of winning those games…..

And if Tony doesn’t start limiting those turnovers in big games, that the moniker he’s going to get labelled with at the end of his career, CANT WIN THE BIG GAME!!!

by Deke on Dec 9, 2008 9:24 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This reminds me of the Buffalo game last year

when Romo had major tunnel vision and was forcing things. He learned from that game, and hopefully he’ll learn from this game.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 8, 2008 9:05 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is a painful article Raf

It is so true it hurts….it is the story of this franchise for the past 4 years too. No guts, no will to win, good players making stupid penalties, no excecusion….december meltdown….anyways. Let’s try and move on. This hurts too much.

by ManTab on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wrong

the defense and OL showed plenty of guts and will to win this game, in spades.

The meltdown was by a few players, not the entire team in general.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 9:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't see the silver lining

This was a tough game on the road that we had won, period. Even after the steelers score, it is 13-13 with two minutes left, all we need is a drive and a FG to seal the deal.

First play from scrimmage, Romo throws a pick six. Didn’t these guys just have 10 days to practice? This team was down to its last chance and blew it and I don’t know if Romo was to blame for all the passing woes but he sure didn’t look sharp.

I was really hoping for that complete game to put this team over the top but instead, they found another way to lose.

by Billito on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wasnt Romo's fault,

the Steelers defense did what they’ve done all year, make the other teams qb look mediocre. Props to your defense and a tough game played, but the Steelers wanted it more. Not much of a surprise to me, we’ve owned you guys since the 70’s!

by Steeler Ric on Dec 8, 2008 9:11 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Romo was Horrible

Romo overthrowing and missing wide open receivers is some how attributed to the Steeler Defense. OK!!!!

I got news for you after watching the game a second time, if Romo had an ON game, instead of one of his December swoons, he would of put up 400 yards against your defense. It was Romo’s fault…

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 9:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A tip of the hat for the win but

“owned since the ’70s?” I guess there’s major amnesia on that one Super Bowl
in the ‘90s. I don’t recall Pittsburgh beating Dallas in the ’90s either. Whatever.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 9:43 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coldhardfootballfacts on Romo

Ouch…the truth hurts.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2573_The_NFL%27s_newest_Sunshine_Superman.html

On another point, I want to see Tashard Choice get at least 10 carries each game over the next three games. In fact, I think Barber should rest up a bit more and come back fresh for the Ravens game.

How about a starting backfield of Choice and Felix Jones? Daaaammmmnnnn….What are the implications of trading Barber?

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 9:25 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Article is dead on

Barber isn’t going to get traded, we just signed him last offseason to a long term deal.

Choice had a nice game, but lets dont get carried away with anointing him, do you remember that last time the cowboy fans anointed a running back, here’s a hint, he plays in Seattle now…

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 9:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear what you're saying

about Julius, but…dang I have a good feeling about Choice. Love love love his attitude and the things he says. Plus you just cannot argue with the numbers against the #1 defense in the NFL.

But yeah I remember drinking the Julius Jones kool-aid after the 2004 season…but who wasn’t?

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 10:05 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Choice getting 10 caries a game?

Uh, Barber has torn ligaments in that toe of his.

Choice IS the running game, IMO for the immediate future. I don’t want Barber
getting MORE than 10 touches per game, if any at all the next two weeks.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 9:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Romo is four games into season three

Let’s see, who are the best QBs on the past 10-15 years?

1. Tom Brady;
2. Peyton Manning;
3. Donovan McNabb.
4. Kurt Warner

How many had straight up learning curves? Brady, and Brady alone. Warner had a spectacular debut and has been what people claim Romo is now ever since.

Manning after five seasons:

0-3 playoff record. One and out after a 13-3 season. An overtime loss in the second playoff game and a 41-0 loss in the third. (Funny, but Romo’s playoff record look very similar at this point.)

And we all know how stupid the Colts were to keep him. Should have dumped him a long time ago.

Good QBs are very hard to find. The Aikmans and Bradys come along once a decade. Look at Steve Young. How good was he and how long did it take him to win anything? Brett Favre?

Romo is a good QB. If you want a quick hook and a return to the Carter/Henson/Hutchinson days or and endless QB controversy, you’re welcome to it. I’m more than willing to give this guy more time.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 9:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well said Raf

He is still relatively inexperienced, and keep in mind that this is the first time he’s had to face the Steelers D in his career.

I’ll bet my next paycheck that any qb, and I mean any qb who has ever played, has struggled playing a Dick LeBeau Steeler defense for the very first time, especially in those conditions.

He has a chance to right the ship by getting the Cowboys in the playoffs, hopefully this will be a positive learning experience for him.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:00 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well to be fair...

Brady did just fine in his first start agaisnt a LeBeau defense but then again, he did have Belechik in his corner

by gee-roj on Dec 8, 2008 11:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not true

Brady got injured and Bledsoe finished that game

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 1:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plus

brady and bledsoe probably had the defensive signals on film and their final walk-through practice!

maybe. good ol’ “those-cheating-patriots” talk is always a welcome distraction

I commented. You're welcome.

another transplant from The Blue & Silver Report

by bulldog jeeper on Dec 8, 2008 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't been reading the blog comments too much

but are people seriously saying the Cowboys should get rid of Romo? Puh-leeze! Worst idea ever. He finished terribly, but fact is until their final two drives he was like 19-31-210-1-2, which is just great considering everything. I hope Romo is on this team for 10 more years.

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 10:03 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a minority but a vocal one

already calling for a new QB to “challenge Romo.”

The team will probably get a young one to develop, but he’s there to push Brad Johnson out, not to replace Romo.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 10:10 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well that's OK

Always good to have a young, hungry and talented backup QB.

I for one would love Tim Tebow, but I think he is staying another year.

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 10:19 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DavidH

to quote Junior Soprano, “and I want to f&*# Angie Dickinson, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.” Tebow will probably be the top player drafted when he comes out. Look at the 4th and 5th round rated guys. Romo had a 5th round grade the year the Cowboys got him.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 10:24 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tebow isn't a pro QB, IMO

He’s a Classic college Qb, I think he’ll have to change positions to play in the pros..

This organization has to start drafting a QB(third or fourth round) to take over the backup role and push Romo. I think Romo is one step above average.

Romo doesn’t protect the ball, is just too inconsistant, has played 39 games, 44 INT’s and 27 fumble, losing 10 of them. Thats not cutting it on a ready made team for him. In the last 20 games, Romo has one game where is hasn’t turned the ball overDetroit)

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 10:34 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah Deke

A career 98 qb rating is really slightly above average….you’re ridiculous.

I got news for you, if Romo was a slightly above average qb, the Cowboys wouldn’t have won 31 games and made the playoffs the last 2 years…I can assure you that.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

QB ratings are for suckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its an asinine stat for rating Qb’s. He should have a good QB rating on a passing offensive team with the amount of weapons he has.

What was Tony’s QB rating yesterday, 44???
and does that include fumbles lost in it calculations, no
And with his left handed pass yesterday, now does that number calculate under his left handed QB rating or his right handed QB rating.

INT’s-44 in 39 games
27 fumbles-10 loses
Playoff wins—0-2
superbowls-0

Everytime tony goes back to pass, he’s a turnover waiting to happen, via INT or fumble. He forces to many balls into places he has no business throwing into. The Offense force the ball far too much to Owens.. Why Garret and Wade isn’t in his ear time and time again about protecting the ball and live for another play…

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 11:09 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So.....

Who are you going to go get thats better?

by AirforceBat on Dec 8, 2008 11:11 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

QB ratings are WAY OVERRATED! Romo has to stop with the turnovers or were not winning squat with him. I’m tired or hearing he is only a 3 year starter……..BS!!……He was a backup for 3 seasons before that. He either has it or he doesn’t. He is not going to change the way he plays at this point. We are going to live and die by his play.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 11:17 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The cold hard facts

Thanks for supplying the cold hard facts Deke, and a much needed dose of reality.

I’ve been saying since before this season started that there must be a commitment from the entire organization to rein Romo in. This nonsense of alternating great games with garbage games will get us nowhere. Romo isn’t going to change on his own, and the Cowboys sure as hell are not advancing in the playoffs with Romo playing the role of the gunslinger.

I for one will never again get suckered into thinking Big Game Tony is actually going to perform well enough in a big game to lead the Cowboys to a victory. Yeah, maybe he leads the Cowboys to a victory next week. So what? He simply cannot string together multiple good games in a row against good teams because he is a TURNOVER MACHINE!

Obviously it makes no sense to replace Romo for the remainder of this season. However, the Cowboys will make a major blunder this offseason if they don’t get (1) a veteran quarterback capable of managing the team and (2) a rookie quarterback to groom. Then tell Romo to quit playing fast and loose with the football or it is off to ride the bench. I’m totally serious here. Romo is an amazing talent, but with his style of play he will never be anything more than an average quarterback. And that is exactly what he is right now: an average quarterback whose play usually deteriorates against better competition.

44 interceptions and 27 fumbles in 39 games – and that doesn’t include all the poor decisions to throw into tight coverage. Good grief that’s terrible – and a monumental waste as well. All that talent wasted because he won’t tone down his game.

by Cowboy Louie on Dec 8, 2008 1:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's also a TD waiting to happen Deke

and FYI, that happens twice as often as the INTs.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 1:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, he was a touchdown waiting to happen yesterday

 only problem was, the steelers were the ones that caught it and ran it back for a pick six with a minute forty to go to win the game.

Now does that count as two stats in the Quarterback rating, one for the touchdown for Pittsburgh and an the INT for Romo.

Romo needs to start protecting the ball, especially against good teams, late in the season.Because it’s the turnovers that cost you wins…the playoffs and championships

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 2:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

give the kid a break Deke

I know you’re the one of the biggest Romo haters on this blog, but you can’t name 5 qbs who are better in Garrett’s system.

The fact is Romo had a bad game, it happens to even Brady and Manning, all qbs have stinkers in their career.

This was the first time Romo experienced a LeBeau Steelers defense and he had to do it under brutal conditions no less.

He’ll learn from this and get better, he always does. Philly rattled him the first few times he expreienced a Jim Johnson defense, but he’s played much better against Philly after seeing that defense a couple times.

Expereince is what Romo needs to be truly great and in time, he’ll get to that level. Keep in mind he’s only played in 37 games in his career, thats not really a lot for a qb.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 3:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You keep throwing that garbage word out as usual--Hater

I dont hate Tony Romo at all. I expect him as the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, and as the quarterback, with the weapons he has at his disposal, to play a much smarter decision making game at this point of his career. I dont want to hear excuses every time he plays a poor game. It’s December, I dont want to hear he’s playing a tough defense, in tough condition, because last week you were telling me he played in those conditions in College and high school, so that wont bother him at all. Ben Pothlesburger didn’t turn the ball 4 times. Now your making excuses for him, He’s got the second and third ranked defenses coming up in the following weeks, if the cowboys lose and Tony has a bad game, what will the excuse be, he was playing a tough defense, I dont want to hear excuses, like baseball, there’s no crying in Football.. His turnovers and fumbles are excessive for a starting Qb that has played 39 games in the NFL, poor decisions and poor throws will kill this teams chances. I dont want a gun slinger as a quarterback, i want a smart good decision methotical quarterback that doesn’t treat the football as if it’s a hot potato. Is that too much to ask of your Jedi…

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 3:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question

How can you reference what will Romo the excuse be if Romo plays bad, what will you say if he plays well? Nothing, as usual you only come out when it is time to speak ill of the cowboys.

I can’t speak for Terry, but I would prefer Romo to be perfect, but it just isn’t going to happen. So, I’ll take the good with the bad, because he us our best chance to win.

Deke, what QB’s would you take over Romo? Quit dodging the question.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 8, 2008 7:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Wmillion...

If you don’t mind, I’d like to take a crack at your question about what quarterbacks I would take over Romo. I think the 2008 Dallas Cowboys would have a better chance of reaching the Super Bowl with the following quarterbacks instead of Tony Romo:

Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Ben Roethlisberger

I think the following guys would give Dallas about the same chance at reaching the Super Bowl that Tony Romo does:

Kurt Warner
Jay Cutler
Brett Favre
Phillip Rivers

Tony Romo is playing with a more talented set of skill players than anyone listed above. He himself is as talented as any quarterback playing in the NFL today. That is why this is all so depressing. If he would just play within himself the Cowboys offense would be nearly unstoppable.

by Cowboy Louie on Dec 8, 2008 8:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roethlisberger throws as many picks as Romo

just look at the numbers. I also remember Brees losing a game a few weeks ago by throwing 3 INTs so you’re way off base with some of those qbs.

Matt Ryan?? give me a freakin break

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try again Deke

I’ve watched Ryan plenty and he’ll never be better than Romo, not even close.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, we know your logic on football

If a player plays for Dallas, he’s great, if a players plays for another team, he sucks or is over-rated, yeah, I get it

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never said Rayn sucks

I’m actually a big fan, I think he’ll be a really good one, but Romo is special…shame you can’t see it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Aaron Rodgers

seems to be able to turn the ball over to lose games as well as anyone. Also, as far as Eli goes, I don’t think he could win with this team. This team isn’t designed to win with a bus driver QB, and we saw up until the middle of last year what happens when they try to let Eli win games for them. I’m not disputing your overall argument, but I take exception with those two.

by Mandmeisterx on Dec 8, 2008 8:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you and Terry are the ones making the excuses for him

See list below, I’d take any of those QB’s listed below. The isn’t sand lot football, you can play gunslinger there, do that in the pros, you lose big games more often than not.

It’s funny when he make a great throw, I guess you dont read the comment section during the game. I said it 100 times he throws very well on the run, but does that register to you, nope…

It’s not about getting rid of Romo, its about him playing better and making better decisions, does that not register with you……

Terry was the one last bathering last week about the cold wont bother Romo, Romo the MVP, romo this and romo that, today it was about the weather conditions, he never played against a great defense before, the same defense Terry says, they dont scare me, they’re over-rated, those are now excuses today….

Dallas needs to sit Romo down and get it in his head, you have to cut out the gunslinging crap, you’re costing us games, protect the football.

I would bring another QB in, something I’ve said for over two years to groom, putting the pressure on Romo, he needs come competition on this team. If Romo continues to make poor decision, I’d do exactly what the Eagles did with McNabb a couple of weeks ago, sit him down. It’s funny how McNabb is playing alot better the last few weeks, do you think that’s a coincidence…

Keep taking the good with the bad with Romo, thinking that way, you’ll be still waiting for a championship years from now..

by Deke on Dec 8, 2008 8:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never said he never played against a great defense

I said he never played against Dick LeBeau’s defense…big difference.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well then you better start rooting for another team

because Romo is and always will be a gunslinger and that won’t change, no matter how much you complain or whine about it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 8:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So winning is also overrated?

What ISN’T overrated Deke? Your own opinion? Every stat seems to meaningless except turnovers. Well here’s one. Turnovers are overrated if you win games. And Romo has been a winner.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 10:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never found Angie Dickinson very attractive

but I am more of an Ann-Margaret man.

I had no idea Tebow would go that high! I would think that NFL scouts would consider him a product of his system, which has not exactly churned out quality NFL QBs. I was under the impression he’d be a 4th or 3rd rounder, tops.

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 10:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm with Junior and with you

I’d take either of them, but man, Ann Margaret = tasty. Red hair and loves football, too. I remember a Cowboys/Dolphins game from the ‘90s when the cameras showed her with Burt Reynolds in a press box. Burt is big football guy and I think may be a Cowboys fan, thought he’s a Florida guy.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 12:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Challege Romo

is the key word. Besides who is his back-up? It is never to early to groom a young QB, besides Tony fearing for his job might be a good thing!

by rocj55 on Dec 8, 2008 11:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of your list

Warner has played for 3 teams and how many times have the Philly fans screamed for Mcnabb’s head? I think I would add farve to that list. But I do agree.

I remember a game last year year where Peyton threw 5 INTS against SD. It happens. Romo is not perfect, but he is our QB

by 082288 on Dec 8, 2008 10:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even Me

who is very critical of Romo because of his propensity to commit multiple turnovers, and usually at the worst possible time, think calling for Romo to be replaced is short-sighted and foolish. He is one of the top 10 starting QB’s in the league.

I do think we should draft a young guy and start grooming him though. A quality backup is a must in this league, as we painfully learned with Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger.

by Philosopher on Dec 8, 2008 11:07 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good post

Rafael, great post. Tony is DA MAN. He needs to mature a bit, that’s all, and for that he needs a mentor, perhaps a QB coach. I am not sure JG is that man. I too have been ‘trigger happy’ to blame Jason Garrett but the reality is that Romo was jittery yesterday, and who would not be against the Steeler defense? Will Romo learn from his mistakes last night and make adjustments to look for other receivers? I mean Roy Williams is ‘transparent’ to Tony Romo, what is the deal? On the plus side, contrary to some of the articles I have read that the Steelers were handing Dallas the game, the Steelers did not hand Dallas anything. The Cowboys went to their ‘house’ and were taking the game from them by beating them in the mouth, returning the punches thrown at them. It’s frustrating to see a potential ‘break through’ win in a hostile environment all around, and not come through. I still think that Dallas’ best days lay ahead.

Even though it was a painful loss, it showed that Dallas has the talent and drive to beat anybody
in this league. The question now remains: Are they up to the task against their remaning rivals this season? We’ll find out beginning this coming Sunday against the Giants.

by lyad on Dec 8, 2008 12:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better!

He has Deke, if he’ll only listen…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Dec 8, 2008 9:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't realize Barber was that hurt

in any case, I am totally confident in Choice. So far as I could tell with my rabbit-ears TV, he ran, caught and blocked extremely well.

The Cowboys really can’t trade a player with a long-term deal? Forgive my ignorance but I’m not certain how the salary cap and other aspects work. For example, would a potential suitor simply take the long-term deal numbers, or would they be able to renegotiate?

Whatever…I’m sure Barber is on the team for years to come and I’m happy about it. It’s just that having two second -year players next year who each could conceievably start is an embrassment of riches.

I think the Cowboys could get at least a 2nd rounder for Barber…

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 10:00 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barber isn't going anywhere, not when he's signed to a 7 year deal.

Although Jerry’s comments about him last night would make you think otherwise IF he wasn’t signed to 7 years.

by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 10:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JJ's comments surprises me

Though I dislike him on so many levels I have never seen JJ throw any current or former Cowboy player under the bus. Very stupid choice of words his part.. If said at all it should have been kept in house.

by 082288 on Dec 8, 2008 10:16 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does Romo know he’s playing in the NFL? His second interception he threw happened exactly the same way as one his preivous games. I think it was against Cincinatti. I know NFL players, unlike normal people, can’t deal with distractions, but NFL players are smart.
And did you see Romo walk off the field smiling after Holland was lying face down? The OL fraternity was around him. I want to shove a football down his grinning mouth.

by ym on Dec 8, 2008 10:28 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they are, mostly. The chances of playing in the NFL are astronomical, and they’ve made it.
I was talking about the cornerback who made the interception, specifically. These guys know how to read plays.

by ym on Dec 8, 2008 10:40 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you seen the Wonderlic scores?

NFL players represent some of the least intelligent segments of our population.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 8, 2008 11:22 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As of objective as I am...

It still breaks my heart when Dallas loses that way. That loss was up there with when Dallas was up on Washington the whole game and Santanna Moss bombs won them the game.

by AirforceBat on Dec 8, 2008 10:39 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel you AFB.

This one hurt as much as last years Giants loss. I feel optimistic about the heart we showed as a defense but cannot say that i am confident we will see the playoffs . This Offense needs to shake itself and this d needs to stay consistent if we have any chance at the tournament. I hope it happens cause i really need to exhale. Time to break out the Patron.

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Dec 8, 2008 10:49 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel you.

Try living in Steeler country and attending that game. That pick six gave me the sickest feeling. I wanted to vomit.

by Mandmeisterx on Dec 8, 2008 11:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know about you, but I'm sick of seeing TO

in the backfield. Has it worked all year??? It’s pretty pathetic that you need to have your #1 Wr in the backfield to get him the ball.

I am so sick of Garrett and his play calling.

On another topic…..I was pleased to see Flozell have a good game. He shut down Harrison the entire game. The only sack was when he came from the other side. I believe that was the play Romo fumbled.

2009 Draft here we come........

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 8, 2008 11:11 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, they missed the 4th and 1 when they asked Witten to block Harrison...BRILLIANT!

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 8, 2008 11:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Horrible play call

I understand you can’t call a QB sneak because of Tony’s finger, but no way in hell i’m giving our FB the ball.

by BK Arsonist on Dec 8, 2008 11:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a weak call

But it looked like if he had stayed right, instead of cutting back left he had it. He made an instant decision at the last millisec, so I’m not blaming Cricket. But I wish he would have stayed right. I’ll just add it to my list of coulda, shoulda, woulda.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Dec 8, 2008 4:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Problem

When you hand it to guy who is not used to carrying it, he closes his eyes and runs as hard as he can in a straight line(reminde me of JJ). If he cuts right we get it, you have to give choice that ball, he has great vision.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 8, 2008 7:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's not just one thing...

I’ve said before that Romo gives me hope, because of his ability to make something out of nothing. But at the same time, he has some major limitations and it requires a very astute offensive coordinator to minimize those weaknesses.

For instance, he is only 6’2" and he’s playing behind a very tall offensive line. It’s tough for him to see over them and into the middle range routes when he is standing in the pocket and his linemen are being stood up and pushed back into his face. How many times yesterday did you lose sight of him as the pocket began to break down? The problem is exacerbated by the fact that he is somewhat spindly and not the big hoss that Manning, Brady Ben, etc. are and loses the ball rather easily on contact. So, Garrett needs to move him around, vary his drop depth and maybe go to a no huddle sometimes just to change things up.

Also, he’s not all that accurate yet (please, don’t give me completion perentages, that isn’t what I am talking about). If you watch his passes into the flat and on hard outs, his tosses sail on him a bit. Choice missed out on being able to break more big runs off of checkdowns because he had to adjust to the ball. Roy Williams needs a bullet thrown at him on the 12-yard out, not an arcing pass with loft. He has to get stronger.

Finally, his decision making has got to improve, we all know that. That part, has to come from good coaching and his own personal development. This offseason, I think he needs to worry less about throwing from funky angles and worry about how to protect the ball and give his team a chance. If you look at the major step Peyton had to take to get over the hump, it was his goal HE set for himself to reduce his INT’s to 8. It was that season that they finally beat NE and won the Super Bowl. more importantly, it was a display of mental toughness from the guy who just set the passing TD record. It will take that kind of personal commitment from Romo to reach the top. I, for one, think he can do it.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 8, 2008 11:18 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see better days ahead

Great post. I think that Tony Romo’s weaknesses have been exposed big time from last season to
this season. You make great points about his height limitations and his accuracy. Until he matures, gets a grip on his mistakes and improves his overall game, which will require much better coaching that he has now, who knows what will happen. You can’t expect Tony Romo to improvise miracles on every play as he is under tremendous pressure. The formula now is ‘pressure Romo and he will make mistakes’. I see improvement in the future but I am not sure we’ll see anything in the form of ‘playoffs this season’. You know all of the remaining teams on the schedule are watching game film from yesterday to prepare for Dallas.

by lyad on Dec 8, 2008 12:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0 fer December I think

Romo can’t hit the broad side of a barn. He has “no-hand’ as George Castanza put it. All the great offensive weapons the Cowboys have, and we have "no-hand”. With Tony throwing wounded ducks over the heads of his recievers we have no chance at all. Looking forward to the draft at this point.

Choice looked very good.

by CowboyMan on Dec 8, 2008 11:25 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And this just in...

Bayless just called Romo a “Conscience-less flinger”.

He also said Big Ben is the anti-Romo. The guy who finds a way to make a play when his team needs him to.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 8, 2008 11:26 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ben?

Romo made the plays for the Steeler win, not Ben.

by CowboyMan on Dec 8, 2008 11:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm most upset with...

Terrance Newman for giving up that 47 yarder to Holmes. Granted, it didn’t lead to any points, but we could’ve forced a punt and played field position.

by BK Arsonist on Dec 8, 2008 11:49 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually felt...

like that was the turning point in the game.

by AirforceBat on Dec 8, 2008 11:58 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Turning point of the game

Pitt kicks off out of bounce, instead of putting a drive together, we go three and out

by rocj55 on Dec 8, 2008 12:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looking forward to the NY Giants

I’m very confident that we’ll win this game, because the Giants do NOT matchup with us…If we don’t committ stuped penalties, we should win this.

by BK Arsonist on Dec 8, 2008 12:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has been labeled way too early.

The 47 bomb and the touch on the punt added up to 80+ yards That is the difference in playing the 4th quarter near the Pittsburgh goal line verse playing near the Dallas goal line. Field postion in this type of game is everything. Take away either of those two plays and Dallas wins this game and we are not discussing Romo’s 4th quarter pick.

Romo made some plays in the 3rd quarter when Dallas took control of the game. Overall he had a bad game; when asked to win the game in the 4th quarter he made bad reads and bad throws. His first quarter was not one for the books either. Once a player gets a rep for not performing in big games then any gaff is seen as hard proof, while if the rep is they are clutch then any gaff is seen as an aberation.

The Cowboys have three must win December games coming up. The team has a solid defense, a good offensive line, a good running game and quality receivers. Unless special teams gives away games then it is going to come down to play at the QB position.

If his reputation holds true and he under performs under presure then Dallas will not win enough of them to make the playoffs. I for one think he has been labeled way too early in his career and looking forward to these games and a Cowboy playoff win in the desert or Chicago

by Trey, on Dec 8, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know its funny

Thinking about our playoffs (if we get in), we could very conceivably be playing 4 teams we’ve played already this season (Arizona in the wildcard, NYG in the divisional, Tampa in the conference, and Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl), 3 of which we lost to. If we make the playoffs, it could very well be a Tournament of Retribution.

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Dec 8, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The problem I have with "romo doesn't win the big games"

Is that ….was Green Bay not a big game last year?

Or the two Giants games.

I don’t think this is just on Romo either, it was the same way with Peyton Manning when he couldn’t get them to the Super Bowl.

by AirforceBat on Dec 8, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+100

Wasn’t it romo who led them to three straight division victories, two on the road and one at home, everyone was saying they cannot go 3-0 in this stretch but he put up the points to lead them to victories. Those were pretty big games in my opinion, it helped secure the division title.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Dec 8, 2008 1:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reputations are seldom fair or based on the complete body of work.

Danny White was labeled as not able to win the big one. The Cowboy teams that won and lost SB under Staubach were younger and more talented then the teams that lost in the early 80s, but it does not matter. White will always be remembered as being unable to win the big game.

Staubach was part of next years champions for a few years until they won it all. Only after he won the SB did he secure his reputation as a wining miracle worker.

Romo is finishing his third season as a starter. He is young. This year is not over. The cement has not set on his reputation.

by Trey, on Dec 8, 2008 1:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Staubach was 0-4

or was it 0-5? against the Steelers.

Don’t ever hear that stat, do you?

Point taken.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 8, 2008 1:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Staubach was 0-4

against the Steelers. And none of the games were even close. That’s right – not even the Super Bowls, which appeared to be closer than they were because of garbage-time scores. The only Dallas Cowboy QB to beat the Steelers in a meaningful game during the Steel Curtain’s run of dominance (‘72-’79) was Craig Morton.

by DavidH22 on Dec 8, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aikman was the only Cowboys qb

who truly dominated the Steelers.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 8, 2008 3:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Newman was to blame for the loss?

Oh, brother.

How about the 5 friggin turnovers. How many times can you put your defense in a bad positions. The defense was not responsible for this loss.

If Romo has even a mediocre game, Dallas wins. Pretty cut and dry.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Dec 8, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In response

Hey Wmillion…
If you don’t mind, I’d like to take a crack at your question about what quarterbacks I would take over Romo. I think the 2008 Dallas Cowboys would have a better chance of reaching the Super Bowl with the following quarterbacks instead of Tony Romo:

Eli Manning-Carried by the running game and D
Donovan McNabb- can’t stay healthy, they were ready to kick out of philly 3 games ago
Aaron Rodgers-losing record as a starter????
Matt Ryan-body of work to small, Romo has a better record this season
Drew Brees-Didn’t he just lose the game for NO vs TB two weeks ago. Throws for a ton of yards, but Romo over the same out of games more TD’s less picks.
Tom Brady-I’d take Tom
Peyton Manning-I’d take Peyton
Ben Roethlisberger-NO way, in more games, he has more picks, fewer TD’s, and fewer yards then Romo..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Dec 9, 2008 11:33 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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