Three Names
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 10:29 AM CST
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In my ripe old age of 41, I've grown to become more skeptical of picking up -- as Terry would put it -- "another team's trash."
But sometimes, the primary reason for a team cutting/releasing a player from their roster is merely to make room under the cap... and if that player is relatively young, is fairly healthy, still has the potential to produce, is familiar with our current coach's system, and might possibly sign for an affordable deal, then why not take a look-see.
Well, here are three names that have potential: FS-Marlon McCree (30) released by the San Diego Chargers , CB-Andre Dyson (28) released by the New York Jets , and QB-Brian Griese (32) soon to be released by the Chicago Bears .
McCree used to play in Wade Phillips and Brian Stewart's system when the two were assistants with the Bolts... and MM is a rangy, free-flowing, ball-hawking, hard-hitting, playmaking free safety. If he agreed to a minimum deal and you paired him up with Ham, our starting safety tandem would receive an immediate upgrade. Although Hamlin plays FS, I see him more as a SS. Personally, I believe that both Ham and McCree as guys who can play both FS and SS -- versatile like that. Btw, McCree was released for cap reasons.
Check out this McCree video:
Dyson was originally drafted by Seattle and once returned two picks for TDs in a blowout win against Philly. In New York, he was overpaid, had nagging injuries in '06 and got beat out by rookie Darelle Revis in '07. The Jets are making a run at Pats CB-Asante Samuel, so they cut Dyson, WR-Justin McCareins, and OG-Adrien Clarke in an attempt to make room under the cap. An affordable deal for Dyson would be an immediate upgrade over Reeves. Just throwin it out there.
Griese had moments of productivity last season. He helped lead the Bears to an OT win in Philly and to me, was better than Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton. However, Grossman and Orton are younger and Griese cost too much. At age 32, he'd be a solid upgrade at the backup QB position over weak-armed Brad Johnson. I'd love to have that kind of insurance behind Tony Romo... esp with Free or McQ set to replace Flo in the starting lineup in the '08 season.
I know we'll be limited in free agency -- and I'm not suggesting that da King sign all three players mentioned above -- but I just thought the prospects of adding one from this trio would be rather intriguing. What do you think?
Gimme your opinions, my BTB Brethren...
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Since we just re-signed Hamlin and will probably ink him to a long term contract eventually, I don't see the need to sign another FS as Watkins seems like a fine backup.
Regarding Dyson, I personally don't see him as any better than Reeves, so I'd pass on him as well.
Now Griese is a guy that would make sense since he's experienced, would know his role as a backup and play cheap.
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 10:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good catch; FS MM could be excellent value
Good one, SilverBlue. I have always liked Marlon McCree - not the flashiest guy out there, but he can definitely cover and if we could get him at a decent price, I'd be all for it...nice complement to Hamlin too.
Alternatively, I wouldn't mind moving up in the mid second round to grab this Josh Barnett kid though - he is big, fast, and, for a big guy, can really turn the hips out of his cuts. I was impressed with him yesterday. And ER says hello...he's definitely on the board now.
by SaratogaMan on Feb 27, 2008 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was very impressed with Barrett...
... at the combine yesterday. Talk about a combination of speed, range, and hard hitting.
Saw some great clips of his play recently.
I believe Boyz and Ark also mentioned him way back when...
Thanks Saratoga!!!
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Barrett should be a main target of ours...
And yeah.....I had mentioned him back in December as my "sleeper" SS to look out for.....oh well....Another little known player goes off in the post season and puts himself on the map, so now every draftnik from here to Istanbul is crowded around the water cooler ranting about this chiseled moster safety running in the 4.3sssss.......
I initially tabbed us looking at him in round 4.....Now...as you could imagine...he won't get out of the 3rd..at the latest...I do feel we NEED a Strong Safety in this draft....cuz...ummm....As of now, we don't even have a back up SS...Keith Davis shouldn't be resigned, Roy Williams should be gone at the end of this season, Ken Hamlin should move to SS in '09, and drafting a stud SS this year will have a year of coaching under his belt to back up Hamlin at SS, and be a top notch special teams player....Or start next year at SS, and leave Hamlin at FS.
This is considered a average draft at best for safeties..Strong safeties in particular, I can only hope that few teams go this route and look early in the draft for a SS...I can only hope that the safeties that were rated higher than Barrett prior to the combine continue to be higher up on team boards..cuz we no doubt need a strong safety to groom.
He has identical measurables to Darren Woodson, and is stronger, and much faster....what is not to like...
He is now my projected 3rd round pick, and we would wise to possibly trade up to the top of the third to get him.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are Dead-On
Boyz: Solid post and you really nailed it. I love this guy. Did you have this post qeued up waiting for Barrett to perform at the Combine? But something tells me he won't make it past the second round...given the dearth of safety talent in this year's draft. He'd be great value if he makes it to the third round.
by SaratogaMan on Feb 27, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Woody, Barrett played @ Arizona St...
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he sure did....how ironic...Woodson clone
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barrett Can't Cover
Barrett is an enigma.
He reminds me of Roy Williams. Gifted athlete that couldn't cover his grandma if she went out for a pass. I go to 2 or 3 ASU games every year. Watch several more on the tube.
Josh Barrett is one of this years biggest SunDevil disappointments. He lost his starting job this year. He only regained it because his replacement got hurt.
Great Athlete. Not a coverage SS.
by DeRat on Feb 27, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dyson's a good name to keep track of
I like McCree, but the fact remains that Roy is the starter here and will be for a while. Biting the bullet on that contract hurts in a major way.
Griese's a good name to throw out there. Servicable backup who can start a game or two in an emergency situation. Again, however, I don't know if we'll really be targeting another QB in the offseason. Johnson's still under contract, and there are rumors circulating that the Boys could target a mid-round QB like Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, or John David Booty (who has explicitly stated that he would love to play in Dallas).
by BudLight on Feb 27, 2008 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
now there is a guy who would make a great
career backup to Romo, John David Booty. Doesn't have the "it" factor to be special, but is very polished and could become a spot starter if necessary.
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there ya go Terry...good call..
i totally agree...if he slips to the 5th-7th round area....we should look at him.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%....
But I still don't draft him until the 5th round.
Also, Jerry would be ridiculed to go into a season with a Super Bowl Caliber team and Booty as the #2 guy behind Romo....so I think you still need one-year contract to a veteran QB for '08.
by Fargo Cowboys on Feb 27, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully disagree on Roy...
as I just don't see him here past this coming year. No need to rehash his deficiencies again, but it was painfully obvious to everyone that he was just plain awful last year. His cap is a problem, but it's not so bad after next season.
I think SilverBlue is onto something here: don't forget about FS, that is, if fix FS,CB,and RB and we are in great shape. In fact,I could argue that we fix FS before adding a wide out.
BudLight: otherwise, I agree with everything else you said - good post.
by SaratogaMan on Feb 27, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Griese ....a good servicable back up
McCree is a better sign than say Keith Davis would be...But free agency isn't a place to load up depth...I can't see McCree starting here...at either safety position...would I want him on our team for depth, and special teams ?..sure...at a very very cheap price...Do I think he'd get offered more money elsewhere ?...yes...so I don't see that happening...I do agree with the fact he is familar with our defense it makes sense....but only at league minimum. Our best choice here would to draft Josh Barrett, 2nd or 3rd round...bigger, cheaper, better, faster, stronger, and younger.....can't beat that...
Does Dyson want to become a 3rd-4th cornerback on a team that will most likely sign a first day CB as well ?...once again...I would take him for depth, but could he probably be a 2nd or 3rd corner elsewhere ?...aor at least be given that opportunity to make more money elsewhere ? ..i imagine he'll garner some interests...Is he better than Reeves, Jones, Ball, Oglesby ?...I imagine he is...haven't seen him play for awhile...but he has servicable skills...I just don't see him coming here for the league minimum...which is all I'd pay him....
Griese has enough talent to not only manage a game in Romo's absence...but I think he can win games with the talent we have here around him...I'd like to grab him no doubt....and would come quite cheap I think...Him or Billy Volek would be my choices to replace Brad Johnson...who I am not at all comfortable with...and should be replaced for sure.
grabbing Josh David Booty in the 6th or 7th wouldn't be opposed. Any guy who wants to be here....I like. He has the ability and talent to be that infamous career back up i've been pushing for.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
QB Picks
Wait...I thought that John David Booty would go much higher than 6th round.
Are you talking about Josh Booty, the Raiders QB/former MLB player?
by SB2008 on Feb 27, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He very well might go higher....
I have him rated in my top 10 QB rookies...and a 3rd-4th round grade....but unless your a team that is looking to draft him as an eventual starter, which there may be a few teams that would. There is a good likeliness that he very well may slip in the draft to rounds 5 or 6...with the MANY back up options out there in free agency...there would seem to be less interest in drafting a rookie QB earlier than round 4 to be strickly a back up 3rd QB....Some teams like us, San Diego, and GB, can afford to use a late rounder on a player that can sit on the bench, and hold a clip board....we'll see how it all folds out...but i am sure we will be looking to add a 3rd QB...as Jerry sure must be scratching his head over the Matt Moore decision...and Josh David Booty is far superior to Matt Moore.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Josh David Booty related to John David Booty?
LOL!!!
Just kiddin, Boyz - HA, HA, HA!!!
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude got me all confused now....lol
All i know...dude must of got ragged on as a kid....booty....ahah...booty...bevis and butthead type stuff...
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, right...
It's like when he goes up to the line of scrimmage under center and has to audible, that'd be considered a "Booty Call."
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LMFAO....can hear it over the airwaves now....
"Booty calls" an audible..."Check out that Booty"
...."That's gotta hurt Booty"....
...no wonder he goes with the full John David Booty...just callin' him Booty is funny.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of like Old Nascar
Why?
Because the audience was predominantly guys and most guys thought that name sounded hilarious...
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me
It reminds me of the razor backs a few years ago
(coach) Nutt Pulls Johnson(qb) for Dick(qb) in a game against the Game(cocks) (u of south carolina)
Was TOO FUNNY
by TrueBlue24 on Feb 27, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW.....LMAO....
that i classic..........
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ROTFLMAO!!! That's so freakin' hilarious!!!
That kind of reminds me of this...
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you going to do with Roy?
He wont be cut this year and I highly doubt wade will take him off the field and make him strictly a bench and special teams player, although thats what he should be.
Dyson had a very good 2006 season but Revis beat him out for the starting role in 2007, I'd have to question how good Dyson would be if a rookie beats you out in training camp, I'd have to have more info on before I'd think about bringing him in.
Is Brad Johnson coming back, thats the question that would have to be answered first, not keeping Moore as the third QB on the 53 man roster was a major mistake last year, if he was allowed to learn under Johnson, Garrett and Wade Wilson last year, we would't be even be having this discussion this year as Moore would be the backup but if Johnson isn't coming back this year, Griese wouldn't be a bad option, but it would depend on the money he would want to be a backup, but either way, Dallas needs to draft a QB this year, somewhere in the fourth or fifth round.
The one area that is solidified for the first time in a very long time where we dont have to worry about our special team area of long snapper, punter and kicker, those areas are locked up for the long term.
by Deke on Feb 27, 2008 10:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
agreed on selecting a QB...rounds 5-7..
as BudLight mentioned above, and Terry acscented his value as a "career back up"...Josh David Booty is a guy I like...and I think will be there in rounds 5-6 for the taking...as will be a few other gems as well...I think we need to carry 3 QB's....One to groom and assist the rookie, and be a quality back up for Romo for a year or so, till the kid is ready to take over the back up role for another 6 years..
Greise will not command as big a contract as the others mentioned by Fargo below...I do say we wait though...till after June 1st to decide on back up QB.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I read somewhere that Samuels
will be signed by the Saints, that the deal is in place for 11 million per season.
by Deke on Feb 27, 2008 11:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
heard the same about Tampa.....we'll see Friday
I can only hope and pray that NO or Tampa grab him....cuz that would be one less team looking at CB's come draft day....DRC to Dallas at pick #22...sure is starting to look good...
NE, Balt, NO, Detroit, Houston, Tampa, and Philly are the teams that scare me the most..
We need for two of those teams to go after Samuels and Florence..
Two more to take McKelvin and Jenkins...that would certainly improve our odds of getting DRC...
I have surplanted my boy Felix Jones off the #22 spot after a weak showing at the combine..he is now my #28 pick...if available.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
boyz, same goes for RBs as well
there will certainly be a team that signs Turner as a starter making one less team to take a RB in the first.
BTW, I don't think Jones had a weak showing at all at the combine as running a 4.4 is certainly respectable. Never know, he might run faster at his pro day if he chooses to run.
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually Terry...it wasn't his 40 that bothered
4.40...although respectable for sure....I/and I'm sure others, including himself expected sub 4.40...he did have top 10 & 20 yard splits...so it's not really the speed concern....as I am pretty sure he might do better at his pro day....it's his 225lbs reps (8) that concerned me with his strength...plus his measurables 5'10" as opposed to his listed 6'0"...but even that isn't a concern, cuz he's still 207lbs. and will no doubt get stronger at the next level. It was his hands that concern me, as you know I place a high value on hand size in a RB....His hands actually measured smaller than Chris Johnson's.... at 8 3/8th" inches....Johnson's 8.5"...neither is what you like to see in a guy carrying a football. I know Jones fumbled a few times at Arkansas, the amount unknown....and far less than DMac ....it's just somethings I didn't know about Jones that now has me wavering...Don't get me wrong, I still feel is by far the best RB to compliment MBIII here in Dallas. But I would not include him in backs I think can be every down, featured backs in the NFL....8 reps and small hands tells me he's not ready...
Take Mendenhall for instance....Not only is he a horse, and has all the physical skills to do very well, and will be an instant starter in this league, but he has 10.875" hands...which are HUGE for a RB, and as big as OT Jake Long's hands...But then again...He has had fumble issues as well...so it's things like that I must ponder when trying to place value on our draft needs...If we indeed sign MBIII to a long term deal, I am compelled to go CB first in round #1...RB with our second choice, or even second round......and trust me..I want Felix Jones...But now I need to think if both Jones and DRC are there at pick #22..I must take DRC, and hope that Jones falls to 28.
I liken DRC to a raw Deon Sanders..and with that showing of speed and footwork at the combine..I'm not going to be the only one who thinks that...I think getting the top CB is more important than getting the top RB...We NEED a CB....we'd like to GET a top RB....but it is not imparitive that we do it early...getting Forte, Charles, Johnson, or even Rice in round 2 wouldn't be all that bad.
I am now all for trading up in the draft...not for a RB, but for a CB....not just any CB....but DRC....a trade to NE at #7 would assure this...and should be considered, and i am sure NE would be all for it.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really DRC too but not enough to trade
up for him because I think McKelvin is just as good. I'm hoping one of those 2 fall to us at #22, but if not, then I'd still be happy with a guy like Porter or Cason in the 2nd rd.
CB position is really deep this year with about 10 going in the first 2 rds.
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok..i ask you....
if CB's McKelvin, DRC, Jenkins, and RB's Mendenhall, Stewart, and Jones are gone at pick #22....WHO SHOULD WE DRAFT ????
that's what i wanna know..
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it will depend on Flo
If we lose Flo this week in FA, I would draft either Chris Williams, Ryan Clady or Jeff Otah if they are available and more than likely one of them will be.
I know you as well as others think either Free or McQuistan will be able to handle LT just fine, and that might be true, but I would rather throw another highly talented prospect in the mix to complete for the job to increase our chances for success at that most crucial of positions.
If somehow we retain Flo, I'd trade down to obtain more picks.
I must say though that I'll be highly shocked if all 6 players you mentioned are gone by #22, very shocked.
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Brandon Albert -Virginia.
OG/OT....Howey Long considers him the best lineman in the draft, and since he's seen him play with and against his son for 3 years...i'd tend to agree....
start day 1 at LG, next to Free, then maybe move out to LT.
Otah is a fat slob that ran a 5.6 40, and has no lateral movement to hold off an NFL pro bowl calibar rusher.......no thanks...
Clady will definately not be there...and more than likely...neither will Williams..
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually Otah is a Flozell clone
I saw him play up close from the 30 yd line at Heinz Field for the last 2 years and he's definitely the real deal.
He doesn't need that much lateral movement, he's so enormous that once he locks on to you, like Flo, its all over and his upside is huge.
I do, however, agree with you about Albert, he's a real stud.
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, and poor combine will drop him to 2nd Rd
Otah and Carl Nicks are OL I've had my eye's on.
Originally, I was thinking stick one of these guys at LG for 2 years, then let Flo leave and move them to LT. I think both of them will need a year or two to adjust to the speed of the NFL.
by DeRat on Feb 27, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Griese, Dyson & McCree....
Therefore I would expect Johnson to stick around until June 1st, or possibly even training camp. It's my opinion that it's too early to make an offer to a back-up QB (especially considering that BJ in under contract) with guys like JP Losman, Charlie Frye, Griese, Kelly Holcomb, Culpepper, Tim Rattay, Chris Redman, Leftwich, Chris Simms, Andrew Walter, David Carr, Chris Weinke and others expected to be available. I think we can get an upgrade without dropping a lot of guaranteed dough.
We need a long-term CB. If I wanted a band-aid #3 or #4 CB, I would certainly consider Dyson, but this is a position that I think everyone can agree needs to be addressed through the draft this year. Young CB's, Aaron Ross and Corey Webster might have struggled at times, but their experience during the regular season payed dividends in the playoffs. I want to be able to throw our rookie CB into the fire and go through some growing pains rather than play a veteran FA that will eventually give way to the rookie.
I don't have a problem with McCree, but as long as Roy Williams is in town, a FA safety is not an option. We might add a safety later in the draft, but I don't see this position being addressed in free agency given the fact that Hammer and Roy are already getting significant paychecks.
by Fargo Cowboys on Feb 27, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Griese
Yea lets pick up Griese, he's been the second quarterback for the Broncos and Bears and couldn't hold on to either of those jobs. Why would we want anything to do with that? Ask Denver and Chicago how he worked out for them. I would rather have Stanback who's never thrown a pass in the NFL give it a shot then to let Griese set foot on this team. Vinny at 50 would even be a better option.
by C17Load on Feb 27, 2008 11:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
In fairness to Griese...
by grapejoos on Feb 27, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Want Griese for a BACKUP ONLY
Notice the blockquoted copy as stated above in my diary:
At age 32, he'd be a solid upgrade at the backup QB position over weak-armed Brad Johnson. I'd love to have that kind of insurance behind Tony Romo... esp with Free or McQ set to replace Flo in the starting lineup in the '08 season.
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree....he would be ideal..
and he would come much cheaper than earlier mentioned possibles...like Carr, Leftwich, Harrington, Collins, types.....Cleo Lemon might be a servicable solution...faired alright behind a pitiful offense like miami's.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
here's an interesting list:
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
from that list I like Voleck the best
by Terry on Feb 27, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a fan of Volek as well...
so are alot of other teams...from what I read...
but he's a quality back up who has shown the ability to put points on the board. relatively young, and from that list...at that price..the best value of them all...Volek or Greise would be my targets. whoever is cheaper...we grab....we need to wipe Brad off our roster...
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Brad Johnson is gone
That's the rumor anyway, it would make the most sense to sign Cleo Lemon as a back-up. He's young and did show improvement last year despite having no weapons around him. Plus, Garrett is very familiar with him. Might be a good backup for a few years.
I like Griese too, he'd be a nice backup.
One name to watch for on the horizon is Chris Simms. For some reason he's fallen out of favor in TB, he could be another guy that might fit in well as Romo's backup.
It's too soon to draft a guy just to be Romo's backup.
If the Boys want to develop a guy for the future, maybe I could see them taking a flyer on a late round QB. I like Paul Smith, Tulsa as a 6th or 7th round pick.
by APerfectStar on Feb 27, 2008 1:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Paul Smith would be nice too...
It's never too early to draft an insurance policy...
We should sign Lemon, Greise, or Volek, and bring a rookie in to be around for a few years...then we can release the vets, and keep the rookie to back up in 2-3 years...I'd rather have a 3rd year back up, making less than $300,000, in 3 years...than continue to pay 2.75 million for 40 year old retreads.
by BoyzRback07 on Feb 27, 2008 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Smith and Colt Brennan
I happens every year. These college kids run up in the pocket and fire bullets down the field in these all-star games and the analysts all talk about how strong their arms are. The problem is that you don't always get clean pockets to step up into in the pros. Heck, I can take a couple steps and fire a seemingly hard thrown (nerf) ball. When Paul Smith was under duress he didn't get any mustard on his throws. His release was above average, but he didn't display much in the form of pocket pressence or "escapability". Overall, I would probably pass on this prospect, unless I had a chance to sign him as an undrafted FA (he is somewhat local-OK). Colt Brennan is another guy that I wouldn't even consider.
Where does the injured Dennis Dixon fall to in the draft?
by Fargo Cowboys on Feb 27, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With his injury, Dixon could be a late-rnd pick
If he's still injured -- and we keep B. Johnson as the backup QB -- there'd be no rush to activate Dixon... and we could still keep him on the roster to be what Matt Moore could've been for us last season.
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You should've seen him play in the regular season
Paul Smith is the real deal.
2007 vs Oklahoma : 22 of 32 for 350yds 2TD 2 INT
by APerfectStar on Feb 27, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. And OU has some studs on D...
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OU won that game...62-21
by Fargo Cowboys on Feb 27, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
But I watched the game, and Smith was playing well throughout. I live in Tulsa and watched a fair share of him this past season, and he looks like he could be an NFL QB. Just my opinion.
by APerfectStar on Feb 27, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I would have watched the BG game...
For you, Tom, I'm going to consider him a 7th round talent. =)
by Fargo Cowboys on Feb 27, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks man
LOL
by APerfectStar on Feb 27, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hometown Hero....
by Fargo Cowboys on Feb 27, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Tom, do U live in South Tulsa?
I went to college there, and I once lived by LaFortune Park (by 51st & Harvard) after I graduated.
I also used to work at the Bally's Health & Fitness by Eton Square (61st & Memorial).
What area do you live in?
Tulsa's a great town. It's easy to find places. My brother lived there for about 10 years until his job relocated him to Chicago. Did you ever hit Southern Hills for any of the PGA Golf Events. My bro went to a few and met Tiger and Phil.
I've still got friends there, though, and I plan on visiting in Feb 2009.
by kcbrett5 on Feb 27, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, 71 & Yale area
Small world, huh?
I've played the par 3 at LaFortune Park (if you can call smacking the ball around badly golf) a few times. Played tennis there a few times.
My brother had a Bally's membership when he lived in my house for a couple years, he also lived in Chi-Town (North side). Funny. Now he lives in Austin.
Tulsa is a fun little city, I like it.
I have never been to Southern Hills, but the big PGA last summer was incredible. It was so freakin hot and the traffic was unbelievable.
Do you live in Miami? I know you're a big Canes fan.
Well another coincidence, I spent my early childhood there, North Miami Beach (the family moved away in 1980) back when it wasn't so dangerous.
Where did you go to college?
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2008 2:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I like Brad Johnson, but if he can't throw the ball over 20 yds anymore, I'd like a young vet who can get the job done for less cost.
When it comes to the draft, I meant I would be disappointed if we used a higher pick on a guy. If the scouts see someone they like and can get him in 6th or 7th or even as an undrafted FA, then by all means they should get them. It's a shame we didn't keep Matt Moore on the roster last season. I think management learned from that mistake. We should just bite the bullet and carry 3 QB's on the roster. That's the only way to safeguard a development QB and still have a capable vet backup.
by APerfectStar on Feb 27, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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