Jerry doesn't think Pacman will be reinstated
Jerry Jones was interviewed today and said he is not confident Pacman will be reinstated by Goodell. Well, if he really feels that way, why is he he trying to trade for him??
To me, that doesn't make any sense at all. There are no other teams even remotely interested in this thug, and for good reason, so why even bother. Pacman has made it clear he wants to play for the Cowboys, so just wait to see if and when he's reinstated to make any kind of trade. Until then, forget about him and just prepare for the draft.
Pacman Jones said on The Michael Irvin Show on ESPN radio Tuesday that he would wait until he’s traded before seeking reinstatement to the NFL.
However, Jerry Jones said he’s not confident that Pacman Jones will be reinstated by the league. "Not at all."
"It’s going to take more than just talk from Adam to get on the field."
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Because
Jerry is trying to drive Adam's value down.
by Impatient on Apr 16, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol, he doesn't have to do that
Pacman has doen a great job of that already. I think Jerry feels that way because Goodell is on record as saying he'll have to see a "sustained" period of time of Pacman walking the straight and narrow before he considers reinstatement.
One of the issues I rose with Adam was I want to see a sustained period of time where he conducts himself the way an NFL player should conduct himself," the commish said. "That's why I gave him the opportunity to participate with the Titans immediately after the season. He had a hiccup. He had some thing that I didn't think reflect well on the league or himself, so I took that right away from him. At some point, I may reconsider that."
by Terry on Apr 16, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See
I think that Goodell went overboard on that part of the deal. He took that right away because Adam went to a strip club. He didnt get in trouble. No one around him got in trouble. He was just there. I understand with his history that was not the place to be, BUT if every NFL player who went to a trip club got suspended, there would be no nfl.
Hell, the Giants even got free table dances for winning the Superbowl.
by Impatient on Apr 16, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many Giants were arrested six times before?
hence, thats why Pac-rat has to change his lifestyle, friends and where he hangs out...
by Deke on Apr 16, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not true Impatient
It wasn't because Pacman was present at a strip club, it was because a woman accused Pacman of assaulting her at a strip club, big difference.
by Terry on Apr 16, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which she later
withdrew. Most likely because it was not true,
Authorities in Georgia say a woman who accused suspended Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones of hitting her has withdrawn her petition to have him arrested.
by Impatient on Apr 16, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's called a payoff
that woman was an attorney who accused Pac-rat of punching her, I'll believe her over him anyday.... I'd put money on the fact that Pac-rat paid her off to drop the charges...
by Deke on Apr 16, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I have this character flaw of excessive forgivness. Its something I'm working on ;-)
by Impatient on Apr 16, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with Pacman, it truly must be excessive
and I'm all for forgiving people, but not when its a hopeless case like Pacman and the welfare of my beloved Cowboys is at stake.
by Terry on Apr 16, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A female attorney at a strip club?
What's wrong with this picture? I'd trust her as far as I could throw her.
by BigE on Apr 16, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he slammed a dancers head down
into the stage when she started picking up his dollar bills too soon when he was "making it rain". So were there 2 separate incidents of Pacman assaulting a woman in a strip club????
by APerfectStar on Apr 16, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And two of just many reasons why i don't want him
by kcbrett5 on Apr 16, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and whats unusal with attorneys at strip clubs?
actually it makes sense since you need money to burn at those places.
by Terry on Apr 16, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its ok for the attorney
but not for an NFL player?
by Impatient on Apr 16, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, because attorneys are intelligent
enough to stay out of trouble and just enjoy the environment, but obviously some NFL players are too stupid and need to break the law.
by Terry on Apr 17, 2008 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And some bloggers
are dumb enough to believe every negative thing they read in the media and distrust most positive ones. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...
by Impatient on Apr 17, 2008 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when a player breaks the law 9 times
only a dumb person would trust that player will now all of a sudden walk the straight and narrow.
by Terry on Apr 17, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry
Go bang your head against your keyboard until something useful comes out.
There is this new thing called due process and constitutional rights. If Adam was THAT bad of a guy, he would be in prison like Maurice Clarett or Mike Tyson. He is guilty of poor judgment in his entourage and being an undisciplined rich kid.
The kid is a jackass, but he is also just a kid. He will grow up and mature some...
I hope.
by Impatient on Apr 17, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't have to tell me about
due process and rights, I deal with those issues everyday and I know there are a lot of thugs walking the street that are guilty as sin its called having effective legal represenation when you're a millionaire.
BTW, there are a lot of kids in the NFL who aren't jackasses, so whats your point?
by Terry on Apr 17, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point
is that in the grand scheme of things, his only real transgression is that he is too frequently in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people and he has previously shown that he doesnt care to fix it.
I think that as far as professional athletes with criminal issues goes, his are pretty mild. Its just that there are so many of them. I dont put him in the same catagory as say a Lawrence Phillips, or Maurice Clarrett.
He is more like a Ray Lewis who was with someone who committed a violent offense and kept his mouth shut. Hopefully he has learned his lesson like Lewis did.
As far as the complaint from the attorney that he supposedly sucker punched, I think that is rather shakey. The situation just doesnt make sense to me. So Adam is arguing with someone else in the managers office. This attorney is there meeting with the owner of this strip club at what is probably very late in the evening to discuss business. Adam gets enraged and punches the bystander? Even for a thug this makes no sense.
The problem for Adam is that once you are perceived to be a problem rich kid and everyone knows it. People try to sucker them into things because their past takes away from their credibility. The court of public opinion tends to swing to whomever is making the accusation. This will be the toughest thing for him to overcome.
by Impatient on Apr 17, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Impatient, you're missing the point
the point isn't whether pacman is really guilty or not, its like you said, he's putting himself in positions so people will take advantage of him which leads to these type of incidents.
The commish doesn't care whether Pacman is innocent or guilty, he cares about the image and the perception of the NFL. He is not going to tolerate players getting in trouble and having it all over the news regardless of innocence or guilt.
If Pacman ever wants to play in the league again and stay playing in the league, he better just become a hermit because if he exposes himself to the public, he will find trouble, its as simple as that.
by Terry on Apr 17, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said, Terry
You have captured the essence of the situation with Pacman.
by BulletBob on Apr 17, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another article on Jerry and Pacman
Some of Jerry's quotes are pretty interesting regarding the length of time it takes getting a deal done.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...
by APerfectStar on Apr 16, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as long as the trade is conditional
perhaps Jerry was trying to drive down his value.
i don't see anything wrong with them continuing discussions about it as long as the trade is completely conditional on him being reinstated.
and as long as his contract is also conditional on performance and non-trouble off field, and we draft and otherwise plan as if he won't be there anyway.
by scottmaui on Apr 16, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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