You guys kill me.
by markdamack on Apr 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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PrintYou know, sometimes I think you guys don't want to have any fun.
Ok, here's my qualm. It seems to me that you guys have more fun shooting down big trade possibilities or draft hopeful situations than enjoying what could be. We all know that it may be illogical to trade up into the top 10 to get McFadden, We know it would be next to impossible to get Chad Johnson here, but as I remember that's one of the reasons I watch football.
The off season is, as Charles Dickens so eloquently put it, "The best of times, and the worst of times". I hate waiting for football season to start, I absolutely hate it. On the other hand, those trades that could happen, the unlikely player coming in that you thought wouldn't but hoped so bad would, a draft day trade for an explosive weapon...all these things are what makes football great. Instead of sitting back, disbanding every theory someone has, sit back and think "What if this did happen". The reason I watch football is because of the excitement.
Now I'm not trying to call anyone out here, or stir up something or anything. I just think if you sat back and immersed yourself in the excitement of possibilities rather than always just wanting to be right and logical you might enjoy the game more. I understand the whole "This is serious stuff here" and all that, and it is. Contracts are complicated, draft picks are even more complicated, and just overall football general management situations are tougher. I'm not a GM though. It's not my job to be business savvy. I'm a fan, it's my job to enjoy the game I love so much.
I know D-mac probably wont be a cowboy next year and I know Chad Johnson probably wont either, but dammit I like to dream ok. Rather than tell everybody how ridiculous it is thinking these players are coming on in, sit back and think about how great it could be if they did. Tell me that doesn't put a smile on your face. Jerry didn't become a billionaire on logic alone my friend, I'm sure he dreamed along the way too...and with great risk can come great reward. Just remember that. Enjoy the rest of your off season guys, it's gonna be a great year.
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my enjoyment of the game is directly
proportional to the Cowboys winning games, it has absolutely nothing to do with having day dreams about unrealistic scenarios.
But if it floats your boat, have at it.
Well im not going to argue over it
I'm just saying, the thought of these players coming in would be directly proportional with winning games, and thus, puts a smile on my face.
well, I don't want McFadden anyway
I'd rather have Mendenhall, so I'll fantasize about that instead, okay?
I guess prescription drugs are a good thing
I'm dreaming in a happy place that I didn't waste the last couple of minutes reading your diary---- well, that did nothing for me!!!!!
Back to the real world!!!
Just kidding!!!!
I can dream about having a particular player on the cowboys, but I dont get where that gets me. I'd like to see the NFL change their system somewhat so that more trades would be able to take place, during the offseason and on the deadline day, but the salary cap and pro rated salaries doesn't allow it to happen, until it does, I guess i can still dream that it will....... but until then, I'll wish I was 25 again, single, healthy and rich. Hmm, would that actually make me happy, or depressed thinking about it!!!!!
LOL funny
Good one Deke.
by APerfectStar on Apr 17, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
ROTFLMAO!!!
See this is my point.
I love my cowboys, but I love more than just them winning. Winning is the best thing in the world, but I don't get paid for them winning so I dont have to be linear and JUST love the fact that they win. I mean, was I the only one who loved romos story almost as much as I loved him comming in and kicking ass? I don't know, maybe i'm just different, maybe I see things on a different level. I love every aspect of the cowboys, not just them winning games.
It was real
But when there were talks of romo starting were you like "oh nooo, he went undrafted and only played in preseason games it's not logical to start himmm" No, because you had seen a glimmer of hope in his little playing time he had. It wasn't about logic at that point it was about something happening that defied logic really.
actually I was the first person on this blog
advocating that Romo start the 2006 season well before he ever saw his first snap. To me it was most certainly about logic because I could plainly see the potential he had and the fact he was already better than Bledsoe.
It's perfectly fine to dream
but it would accomplish nothing if BTB spent a significant amount of time speculating on 'blockbuster' draft-trade scenarios that are even less likely than the odds of Jimmy Carter getting reelected President.
I sympathize with both sides on this. It would certainly be interesting to see what guys like McFadden and Chad Johnson could do for our team, but I also like that we spend a great deal of time discussing the draft-trade scenarios that actually are plausible. That helps us get a good idea of what to expect during the off-season.
by Nelson @ Blogging The Boys on Apr 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions
See, maybe that's it.
I'm not downing talking plausible. I love the fact that BTB discusses the facts, thats what it's here for. I just think some people just think it's stupid to dream. Like we're ignorant because we hope for these things. I'll sit here and talk contract negotiations, cap room, and reasons why these wont happen all day. I'm just saying there's no reason to look down on people for hoping, the way it seems some people do.
Meh, I don't have a problem with speculation
We all dream of becoming general managers someday.
The thing is, though, Mark (damack?), we usually stick to those hypothetical that have a chance of happening. Right now, I'm deliberating over another QB conundrum, in which a team has to decide whether they're willing to overpay us for a late first rounder to get what may be their future signal-caller. It's a very feasible scenario.
Beside, we've run out of gas on the McFadden front. It's been debated to the point of redundancy dating back to the second Jerry called Phil Savage to confirm the Quinn trade.
by BudLight @ Blogging The Boys on Apr 17, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions
Good article
Im with you all the way on this one. My love for the Cowboys completely transcends winning.
by gotfive on Apr 17, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
MarkDaMack....great post...thank you.
by BoyzRback07 on Apr 17, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions
So it's getting a lot of negative reviews.
That's fine. I expected it. It's why I wrote it. I guess you'd have to have a passion that goes beyond the cowboys as a hobby. If I had only one devout passion in this life it would be the cowboys. It's ok to laugh, I don't mind. You'd have to understand what the cowboys have meant to someone as myself my whole life. It's gone far beyond winning or losing. I have a true passion for my team. When they win i'm at my highest, when they lose i'm at my lowest.
You guys have just really proved my point, but have yet to really tell me why do you have to berate and ridicule someone when all they are trying to do is tell you their side, what they would like to happen. We know it may not be plausible, but we don't give a damn. If it does happen it makes it that much better. If it doesn't, well...we figured it wouldn't any ways, but sitting back thinking of my cowboys being that much better just makes you feel amazing at that point time. I guess you wouldn't understand though.
you can sit and talk Cowboys with me anyday guy..
nothing but rave reviews by me....I know exactly what your talking about, and how you feel about our beloved Cowboys..
by BoyzRback07 on Apr 17, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
markdamack, there are plenty of fans on this site
who have every bit as much passion regarding the Cowboys as you, including me. I just don't understand the logic of dreaming of something that won't happen, but thats just me. However, it doesn't mean I have any less passion about the team than you.
Hey markdamack
I know how you feel about the Cowboys. I slump into a depression after every loss, and get a natural high after every win. I look forward to every upcoming season with great anticipation and underlying nervousness at the same time.
I think it's fine that some of the posters on here put so much thought and effort into possible trades upon trades upon trades no matter how outrageous they may be. Sometimes one even pops up that sounds like it could happen in reality.
I enjoy reading them like I would enjoy reading any well written fiction. It's probably just that we are in a real news glut, with nothing to talk about other than speculations. I think some people get tired of reading the wild ideas because the are longing for real substance.
But keep on posting these trade possibilities, I have to give you creativity points for them. Have fun, it's not hurting anything.
Jerry is a gambler
Frankly, as long as Jerry Jones is calling the shots I don't write anything off as impossible. I don't dare try to predict what that man will pull out of his hat
This means you "Unexpected"
Some people are blowing this up like i'm talking about absolutely ridiculous things here. It's one thing to say hey "Let's give up all of our first rounders and second rounders and try to get ladanian tomlinson as barbers backup" it's another to be like "Hey Chad Johnson said he wanted to be a cowboy, how could we make that happen and man would that be great. Here's how I think it could go down...etc."
You don't have to ridicule to prove you're right. I apologize if I struck a nerve by calling your passion into play Terry, you said your enjoyment of the game is directly proportional to the cowboys winning. I understand that, I'm saying understand why other people love the game. Not just the Cowboys winning, but the drama and and unexpected events that unfold. That What ifs. It's not our fault you don't get pleasure in thinking we could have two of the top 5 wr's in the league on our team or the best running back in college. :D lol
It's all in fun man, take it easy and embrace something else.
If it could happen, I agree
but using your Chad Johnson example, there is no way the Bengals are going to take an 8 million dollar cap hit this year by trading him, so why even consider it.
Now WR Roy Williams, thats a different story, I never said that couldn't happen.
As Florio points out
The Cap hit isn't what most people think:
Curnutte continues to point to an $8 million cap hit that the Bengals would take. But Curnutte also continues to minimize and/or overlook a couple of key facts.
First, the June 1 rule permits the cap charge to be spread over two seasons. If Johnson is traded or released after June 1, the dead money in 2008 will be considerably smaller, apparently in the neighborhood of $3 million. He also can be cut now, with the move designated as a post-June 1 transaction.
Second, since the Bengals would avoid Johnson’s $3 million base salary for 2008 (and his $250,000 workout bonus, which they’ve presumably already been relieved from paying due to his failure to report for voluntary offseason workouts), it’s a wash in 2008 dollars.
Third, any cap hit in 2009 would be offset by $4.75 million in salary and workout bonus that the Bengals wouldn’t have to pay to Johnson next year.
Third, Curnutte makes his claims without setting forth any facts regarding the team’s projected cap situation in 2009, when the maximum per-team spending limit is virtually certain to increase by another $7 million or more, exceeding $120 million for the first time. So what’s $5 million or so in dead money, especially when $4.75 million or so in new money wouldn’t be paid to a guy with a stick in his butt?
Remember this — we’re talking about the Bengals. Mike Brown is one of those owners who would be happy to operate without a salary cap because there likewise would be no salary floor. Cutting or trading Johnson means in essence that the Bengals get extra credit toward the salary floor without spending any more money.
Part of his Aril 17th Post:
oops
First, that should read "I like to dream too".
Second, I didn't mean to post it because I have other things to say:
--First, I don't see what logic has to do with imagining scenarios. Possibilities come into play, not logic. Football is rarely a game of logic. Now, mathematically, considering all the variables, some of these "dream" trades have a very low probability. But, one never knows, and that is the fun of the NFL.
Blast it!
I did it again! I can seem to post without prematurely adding my post! Arrgghh!
To continue:
Second, I have seen a few wild trades in my years of watching football. There is no reason to think that Dallas can't pull one off. Jerry knows that the time to win is now! He would do most anything to bring another trophy to big D and I never underestimate Mr. Jones.
Third,
The dead time of the year football-wise for me is between the Super Bowl and the Draft. What else is there to do but dream.......
In order for Cincy to distribute the 8 mil over 2
years....would be by trading him after June 1st....and when he's not in training camp....that can happen...not during this years draft...
Come August..
We can trade '09 1st round pick for him, and players that won't be making our roster, or we're looking to rid ourselves of, or we've made upgrades during this draft:
...alas Akin Ayodele, Miles Austin, Sam Hurd, possibly Kyle Kosier, Anthony Henry, Roy Williams, Marcus Spears, or even Chris Canty.....etc...
we'll see..
by BoyzRback07 on Apr 18, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
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