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Dallas Cowboys acquire Pacman Jones in trade

 

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Sorry for the downtime of the network and consequently this blog, we had an unexpected server/database issue. It’s just my luck that when one of the biggest Cowboys news stories of the year breaks we have technical difficulties that knocks BTB offline. Again, my apologies. I wonder if this is a bad omen?

Well, it’s a done deal, at least agreed to in principle, according to the sources. Yes, that guy, Pacman, is going to be a Dallas Cowboy. Here’s the way ESPN terms the deal:

Dallas will send its fourth-round pick in Saturday's draft to the Titans for Jones.

There are also conditions attached to the trade related to Jones being reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and how much he plays for the Cowboys. If he plays a significant amount of time in 2008, the Titans will get an additional pick from the Cowboys in 2009.

If he doesn't get reinstated by the NFL, the Titans will send an undisclosed 2009 draft pick back to the Cowboys.

Also, Pacman has reached a financial settlement with the Titans regarding his contract situation. ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Jones must pay $500,000 to a charity chosen by the Titans sometime in the next two years. He will receive a new contract from the Cowboys.

OK, so we’re giving up a 4th this weekend in the draft for sure. It looks like we’re sending another pick of an undetermined nature next year if Pacman plays a significant amount of time in 2008. If Pacman doesn’t get reinstated and doesn’t play in 2008, we get a pick back. I’d sure like to know what round those picks fall under. Also, there’s going to be a new contract, hopefully one heavy on incentives that will help to keep our new corner out of trouble. If that’s possible. Jerry Jones, the gambler, is going for a big payoff with a questionable player.

So how does this change our draft? Unknown. The Cowboys claim it won’t but I can’t believe they will put the exact same emphasis on drafting a corner that they would have before. Now, if someone like Mike Jenkins is still on the board at #22 they might just go ahead and take him because having four capable corners is never a bad thing. Also, they might be looking at life in the future with the status of T-New and Henry undetermined. But if they don’t get a chance at one of the top corners they won’t have to reach for one of the guys that would more likely be a second round pick. So I say it changes the strategy slightly, but probably not significantly.

Well, get ready for all the barbs from the rest of the league but who cares? If Pacman plays up to the ability he’s shown in the past and he stays out of trouble – I know, insert joke here – then we’ll be having the last laugh.

Let’s go – post your thoughts on the big trade.

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despite my doubts

I was hoping it would happen.

On ESPN they just said if he does play a significant amount, it’s a “steal.”

by scottmaui on Apr 23, 2008 11:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what to say.....

As a lifelong Cowboys fan, I have really mixed feeling about this deal, even if it is a “steal”.
TO and Tank Johnson had baggage when they came to this team, but their baggage is pretty minor compared to that that Pacman is bringing along with him.

by Captain Fubar on Apr 23, 2008 11:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

It’s beautiful. The past few weeks and Jerry Jones comments had me skeptical the deal would get done at all, but Jerry prevailed! 4th-round pick is too much to give up if he doesn’t perform or gets kicked out of the league, but if he’s the model citizen I expect him to be it is indeed a “steal”. One slight concern I have with the deal is the round in which the 2009 pick we might be shipping over to Tennessee is, but I’m sure Jerry made the right deal.

I was disappointed I didn’t get to see like 1,000 comments on someone’s diary after the deal, but now everyone should have gathered their thoughts and voice their educated opinions instead of responses like the one I would’ve had around 4 o’clock….”PACCCCCCMAN!”

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 23, 2008 11:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have mixed emotions here

I’ve stated over and over again that the best position to take on this deal was acceptance-it was going to happen despite any qualms, wait for the fireworks, whether they involve a pick-6 or a felony misdemeanor. This guy is a messup on such a different degree from the others, though that I really will have a hard time rooting for him. Tank was misunderstood. TO was just a prima donna. And besides, a team full of class acts like Witten, Romo and Ware could afford to take them on. PacMan is in a different boat altogether. Frankly, I could very foreseeably see him suspended yet again even if the Commish reinstates him for this season. He’s an absolute knucklehead.
On the same note, however, is the risk worth it? Absolutely. He’s supposedly a top 20 corner when healthy, and even allowing him some time to get back up to speed is agreeable, as the Cowboys have proven veterans and other incoming talent at the CB position. Giving up a fourth round pick and what is (I hope) no more than a conditonal fourth next year is BEYOND a bargain for a player of his caliber, especially if the rumors about that bare-minimum contract are true.
In conclusion, I cannot wait to see our defense to take the field. Newman, PacMan, Henry, and a first day draft pick pairing up with Ham and Roy in the secondary, Ware, Ellis, Rat, Canty, Zach Thomas and Bradie James taking care of business in their usual exemplary fashion up the field. Things could get scary. Seriously, there is no weak spot on this defensive unit anymore.

Livin' in Heartbreak Central...

by BudLight on Apr 24, 2008 12:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I completely see

where the people that are opposed to this trade are coming from, but this guy will either be a professional football player making millions of dollars for the next couple years or a (insert degrading, low-paying job here). I think he’s messed up numerous times and he (hopefully) realizes what is at risk here. I’m all about giving people a second chance and I totally support Pacman and this trade as long as he keeps his act together. That being said, even if he doesn’t work out it’s not like we gave up like a thousand first-rounders for him like we did for Joey Galloway.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 24, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Mortenson tonight on ESPN

reported only that the Titans get a 4th this year and will get a 4th back next year if Adam does not get released to play or gets suspended before playing a game.

He also reported the new contract with Adam is for 4 years and no money guaranteed with a substantial reduction in salary. Essentially to get another chance he will play for cheap for 4 years.

I don’t like the trade. This team needs to be wary of any more jackasses or, in the words of the late Red Auerbach, “they will breed”.

by lee3022 on Apr 24, 2008 12:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4 years contract??

Cool, feel better about this trade…not that I felt bad about it, we hardly gave up much. I was, however, upset that Jerry blinked when the Titans had no leverage and he gave up the extra pick.

No matter what, this shouldn’t change our draft plans, after all Pacman was away from the game for a year

by Taylor on Apr 24, 2008 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me be the first to post this...AHH!

Darn SB Nation! I’m not a fan of this!

Again, mixed thoughts on Pacman. What I do like is to hear ESPN’s Chris Berman say “Wacca wacca wacca wacca!” again every time Pacman gets an INT.

I guess Space Invaders wasn’t available.

Texas slang in a Big Apple minute, by a friendly OED consultant. http://www.barrypopik.com

by barrypopik on Apr 24, 2008 12:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pacman

Finally gets a change of scenery and a new beginning.

I say we give the dude a new nickname just to get rid of the cursed name “Pacman”.

That or just call him Adam Jones.

I smell a large poll Grizz lol

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 24, 2008 12:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jones says he will wear 21 in honor of

Deon Sanders. Woo hoo we all get to recycle our JJ jerseys

by Impatient on Apr 24, 2008 12:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Link with more details

Looks like we only give up a 4th rounder in 2008 and conditional 6th round pick in 2009 if pac is available for all 16 games…..and we get a 4th in 2009 if things dont go smooothly….

looks pretty good to me…..we fill two needs relatively cheap and the payoff could be huge….

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-04-23-jones-trade_N.htm?csp=34

by BoNeZ on Apr 24, 2008 12:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't the jersey number be...

21?

I mean, he is already signing autographs with that number.

by downsetgo on Apr 24, 2008 12:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

character is very important

these are role models and heros for our kids. there is a standard of behavior that earns the privilege of playing the game professionally. and it’s true jones’ character issues are on a different level from other ‘projects’ jerry has taken on.

i guess when it comes to judging the character of a player, ultimately we have to trust the commish. he has been strict and not put up with any b.s. He literally sits the man down and looks in his eyes. so i figure if he ends up giving adam jones another chance, I’ll be stoked to have him on the team, and eager to see what he’ll do on the field. We are going to have one awesome freakin secondary. But if commish decides he’s not ready, I won’t complain. That’s the risk that brings the possible reward. And on that count we have to trust Jerry. I hope he’s right.

by scottmaui on Apr 24, 2008 2:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

very stupid decision by Jerry

as it looks like Pacman will probably never play again in the league. Something tells me Goodell might never reinstate him so we just threw away a 4th rd pick who could be another MB3 or Canty.

Very dumb Jerry, very dumb.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Apr 24, 2008 7:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And if he doesn't

We get a fourth right back next year. This trade is devoid of risk.

Livin' in Heartbreak Central...

by BudLight on Apr 24, 2008 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry blinks again!!!

another example of Jerry being completely clueless when it comes to being a GM.

The Titans said numerous time that they have no use for Pac-rat, infact they banned him from any and all thing surrounding the organization, including banning him from the Titan facility, they didn’t want him back under any circimstances.

And then there’s Maude, I mean Jerry, with no other team in the NFL interested in the Pac-rat, well who would be with six arrests and nine incidents with police, Jerry once again finds himself bidding against himself, instead of holding pat until draft day, Jerry mentioned in his pre-draft press conference, other wise known as the midday nap, because the guy can talk for an hour and say nothing of interest, Jerry did mention that the trade talks have kind of quieted and gave the impression that it wasn’t going to happen. Then ony a day later, Jerry panics, and agrees to one of thee most dumbest deals going, a player the titan dont want, a player the rest of the league dont want. Jerry gives away a fourth round pick this year and even a draft pick next year, all for a player no on else wanted, instead if Jerry had a clue, would of waited until day two of the draft and offered the titans a six round pick this year or a conditonal fifth next year, the titans would of jumped at it, they wanted Pac-rat gone, they weren’t going to let the draft go by without getting something for him.

We all know the Pac-rat will be reinstated by the commish, first he’ll be allowed to workout with the team in their offseason program to see how he does around the organization and to see if he keeps his nose clean, after six arrests and nine incidents with police, my money is on the Pac-rat will have another incident, he’s one of those guys that will never learn, but not this year, he’‘ll stay on the down low. There will be no fourth round give back next year, I’m sure there will be assigned three or four baby sitters for the Pac-rat to keep him out of trouble.

And dont give me the chances of even a fourth rounder even making the team aren’t guaranteed anyway, Canty, Barber and James are three players starting for your dallas Cowboy that were selected in the fourth round, especially this year when this is a deep draft.. this is another example of Jerry not standing his ground, instead giving in for a player that been sitting out a full year and has had two INT’s each year for two years, he’s not the end all, be all for corners as people seem to think, Henry’s had more INT’s in one year that Pac-rat has had in his entire career, For those who only seem to think INT’s are what makes a great corner and people already want Pac-rat given the number two spot on the roster.

I gave Jerry alot of credit for this offseason for not going overboard and overpaying for free agents and getting his own free agents and restricted free agent locked up, tendered or franchised, but after the convict was traded for yesterday, its clear that Jerry is back in charge and and going to things his way,there is no one in this organization to say “NO” to him anymore, to me, that’s a scary proposition at draft time…...

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Apr 24, 2008 7:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Too strong Deke

I will fully admit that I was not as excited to get Pac after the recent revalations but I think this is the best case scenario for a deal. If Pac turns out to be a total screwup, we get the Titans 4th rounder next year. If not, we get a potential pro bowl player. So this trade, according to you is

another example of Jerry being completely clueless when it comes to being a GM

My biggest fear is that Pac won’t get reinstated and if he never does, then yes this was a bad move by Jerry. But the guy has forgotten more about running a franchise than you or I will ever know so to completely throw him under the bus is absurd and reactionary.

I choose to trust that he has some sort of inside knowledge that Pac will get reinstated and if not, the boys don’t lose anything but some time and hope.

by Billito on Apr 24, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not about the trade itself

That was ineviteable, but to give up that much for a player the titans or any other teams didn’t want, why would you give them anytihng but at most a sixth or a conditional fifth in 2009, that where a smart GM would wait until draft day, not make a panic move now….

And now we wait for the Jerry Jones show saturday where he’ll be all about moving around just to move around, not to draft a player. I think he likes all the talk and press he gets more than getting solid players during the draft.

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Apr 24, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if Jerry screws up this draft

Then I’ll be hard pressed to argue with you. But I don’t think he will and that’s why I can’t call him a “terrible GM” because his same style netted the boys with two first round picks this year which gives them an opportunity to snag two impact players right away. IF pacman stays out of trouble and IF we get two impact players in the first round then the boys are substantially better and Jones is a genius. IF all that blow up in his face, then I’ll have to say that the boys need a new GM.

by Billito on Apr 24, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This a prime example

of Jerry Jones as a GM fixating on a player as he does too ogten and paying whatever to get him. He’s been fixated on the troubled Pac-rat as soon as the Titans stated they dont want him anywhere near their organization. I thought would be smart and waited inti draft day, then the Titans would be desperate to get something for him, they held the cards up to the draft, then Dallas would hold the cards and it wouldn’t of cost us a fourth rounder.

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Apr 24, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trading 4th rounders is great

If he doesn’t play, we will get the Titans 4th round pick next year. This will most definitely be a lower pick than the Cowboys, especially considering we will be picking last after we win the Super Bowl ;-)

by D3R3K on Apr 24, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dont talk superbowl, that word shouldn't be mentioned

can we win a playoff game first, that hasn’t happened for twelve years, one step at a time…... We were picked last year to be in the superbowl, what happened with that prediction???

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Apr 24, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The site being down last was a bummer

This is the only site I have bookmarked regarding Cowboys news

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Apr 24, 2008 10:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I noticed that too

Not really crazy about the new page/site, find it way to slow to load and open every post everytime

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Apr 24, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only had a problem last night.

In a week, I will be used to the new site and will barely remember the old one

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Apr 24, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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